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  1. Propoganda and revionist history at best. What the hell is ” jewish ancestral home land”. If that were the case then all native people around the world could make claim to their ancestral home land that were taken from them by the Europeans explorers and settlers.Eg the american Indian, the australian aboriginese, the native indians of south america etc. The root of this conflict is religion mixed with politics. Zionism vs Arab nationalism. No if or buts.But all in all I blame England and France those former two colonial power who during their heyday have messed up a lot of countries all over the world that even to this day some countries are still reeling.

    One of the biggest stumble block to the peace process is the zionist settlers in the occupied area who feel that their imaginary friend in the sky made a divine real estate transaction for their heirs and successor some 5000 years ago because they were the choosen one.Go figure.


  2. Oh give me a f#king break … The best solution for this problem was for the League of Nations to have partitioned Germany or Poland and dropped the f#cking Jews there. The Arabs did not want the Jews, nor did the Europeans nor the Americans nor the Cubans nor South Americans. In fact even attempts at setting a homeland in Africa failed. This talk about traditional homeland is irrelevant for a warring nomadic tribe of people. Europeans have a history of foisting its problems on every other piece of territory outside of Europe. How easy it is to blame people for when everyone else were of the same f#cking opinion …

  3. Another perspective from MIko Peled, an Israeli peace activist and author of the book, “The General’s Son”.

    Miko Peled is a peace activist who dares to say in public what others still choose to deny. Born in Jerusalem in 1961 into a well known Zionist family, his grandfather, Dr. Avraham Katsnelson was a Zionist leader and signer of the Israeli Declaration of Independence. His Father, Matti Peled, was a young officer in the war of 1948 and a general in the war of 1967 when Israel conquered the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and Sinai.
    Miko’s unlikely opinions reflect his father’s legacy. General Peled was a war hero turned peacemaker.

    • Perhaps there is a role for the UN after all:

      Paris, 21 September 2011Troy Davis: executed just hours before UN Conference against Racism!
      It is 11:00 pm in Paris, 05:00 pm in Georgia.In two hours, this American State is about to execute a Black man amid concerns of racism.Just a few hours later, on this 22 September 2011 at 9:00 am New
      York time, the UN General Assembly “High-level Meeting” opens to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the adoption of the Durban Declaration and Programme of Action; in early September 2001 in Durban, South Africa, the the UN held the World Conference against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance, known as UN WCAR.
      This anniversary coincide with the 2011 International Year for People of African Descent and this offer a unique chance to strengthen efforts in the fight against racism,  racial discrimination, xenophobia and the related intolerance.
      The US and a coalition of countries, who refuse to be told the truth about their politics of one race or group superior and other races or groups inferior, will boycott this anniversary.
      They boycott this anniversary just like their disdainful attitude towards the International Year for People of African Descent with their colonial and criminal politics of extermination and expropriation against anyone who is against their objectives of total domination over all.
      You never heard of this “High-level meeting” just because those called the mainstream medias decided to boycott the information too.They discuss of Mahmoud Abbas ratifying the two-states approach and they silence the other alternative of One Single State for all.In the Troy Davis case, 7 of 9 of the witnesses have withdrawn blaming police pressure to have them lie against Troy Davis.
      One would like to believe that the lynching of Blacks is but an old history if this federation of States who elected a  president they say is Black while his mother is White and father is Black.Alas, it is in the pure tradition of the racist lynching times that this State of the United States of America will execute
      In the DSK case, we were told that DSK was freed because  the American system does not allow condemnation when material proofs are not sufficient.Today this very same system is about to execute, yes to execute, a Black man with no proof at all.

  4. The presentaion represented the historic FACTS, as they WERE/ARE, re the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, and CANNOT be refuted by BU Scoffers and Bildge Pumpers, who are grossly ignorant of the truth, which WAS codified and ratified by the UN, as documented.

    This UN Charade IS* the Palestinians defying the U.N. Charter of procedure, which U.N. Charter, requires respect for existing treaties, that are totally violated by the PLO.

    Secondly, the Charter opens U.N. Membership, to “states” NOT* to “movements” such as the PLO/PA, which the PA flagrantly FLUNKS on several counts.

    But, it is all unfolding as prophecied in God’s Word, as it comes ‘Into the Valley’ literally, as it means such a vote, if passed, would DIVIDE God’s land that He Covenanted to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, AND their descendants the Jews, so let us hear HIM* and HIS* Word, on the matter.

    “For BEHOLD, in those days and at that TIME*, when I bring back the captives of Judah and JERUSALEM, I will also gather ALL nations, And bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; And I will ENTER JUDGMENT with them there, On account of My people, My heritage ISRAEL, Whom they have scattered among the nations, They have DIVIDED My LAND.”

    “Proclaim this among the nations: “Prepare for WAR!” Wake up the mighty men, Let all the men of WAR draw near, Let them come up. Beat your plowshares into swords. And your pruning hooks into spears; Let the weak say, ‘I am strong,’ Assemble and come, all you NATIONS, And gather together all around. Come Your mighty ones to go down there, O LORD. Let the NATIONS be weakened, and come up to the Valley of Johoshaphat; For THERE I will SIT to judge ALL the surrounding NATIONS.”

    “Put in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe. Come, go down; For the winepress is full. The vats overflow- For their WICKEDNESS is great. Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the DAY of the LORD is NEAR in the valley of decision. The sun and moon will grow dark. And the stars will diminish their brightness. The LORD also will roar from Zion, And utter HIS voice from JERUSALEM; The heavens and earth will SHAKE: But the LORD will be a shelter for His people. And the strength of the children of ISRAEL.” ( Joel 3: 1-2, 9-16) Emphasis added.

    Yes, it’s ALL coming together as HE* said it would, with JERUSALEM, the ancient Capital of Israel, being the very center of contention, by the wicked, Islamists, Jihadists, the PLO/PA, Hamas, et al, come ON PLO/PA, HAMAS, gather with all of the other enemies of Israel, and all Jews, and SEE what your END will be, at the Almighty hands of God, as He pours out His Holy, WRATH upon you all, come DOWN, and SEE HIS* Glorious appearing, JESUS CHRIST, as it’s all just around the corner of time!!!

  5. Like moths to the flame they come *smdh*

    Disagree with Israel and the Evangelical Fanatics will have your head!!

    Israel can do NO wrong in their eyes!!

  6. Zoe,
    The God you refer to is the God of less than 20% of the world’s population. Chistians are in a minority but feel that their religion has the right to dictate to the rest of the world how it should be run. That is a recipe for conflict and suffering.

  7. can you imagine after 20 years of maye or just maybe to be told that justice will be served. Where is the justice. The failure of the USA judicial system to render justice within those twenty years in this case speaks volumes as to wether Troy was gulity..Whatever the evidence was it should have been clear and concise within that time period. Taking 20 years to figure out Troy’s guilt or innocent in itself is cruel and inhumane punishment.In this case it was clearly a case of reasonable doubt..

  8. it wasnt so long ago israelis were attacked from three directions the state looked to be in peril, the world expressed outrage at the motiveless attack.the israelis won the world cheered underdog wins again.
    fifty yrs on the same world screams occupation apartheid etc. there are 1.5 miiion arabs mostly muslims living as citizens in israel right now. voting electing members to parliament etc. it may not be perfect.
    imagine the israelis lost the war would there be a jew left alive that hadnt fled.get real there should be a palestinian state but one willing to accept its neighbor who has the same rights to live in this area as the arabs. would you kiss and make up with someone who wants to kill you would you if your answer is yes you are full of it.

  9. Like Zoe says. . . . . . “Don’t mess wid dem Jewish peeps”.
    Unless yuh tink yuh can withstan’ de wrath o de Almighty! Mess wid dem an seh wuh gine ‘appen.

  10. There are still Jews living throughout the middle east who can trace their ancestry to Iraq. Iran and many other places where they have lived in peace with Muslims for centuries. Many Jews (69% according to a recent poll) agree that Palestine should have its own state and are demonstrating the need for reconciliation and peace with the Palestinian people.

    But then their are others that the Bible warns will claim they are Jews but are not, they are the synagogue of Satan.

    The problem isn’t Jews per se, it is the theory of Zionism, a form of superiority complex and racism that is the problem.


  11. @Maat

    There are still Jews living throughout the middle east who can trace their ancestry to Iraq. Iran and many other places where they have lived in peace with Muslims for centuries.
    The operative word is “lived”, show me a ME country other than Israel where Jews are living openly and practicing their faith today.

    There is a lot of criticism of Israel some of it justified but I never hear anyone talk about how it took in the Falashas

    Re the Palestinian State: Shouldn’t Ahmadinejad be in favour also? He spoke at the UN today and did not mention the subject once, he supports Hamas in Gaza and Hamas is opposed to Abbas or any recognition.

    I don’t usually get into any discussion about the ME as I follow the adage in the old song “fools rush in where wise men fear to tread….”


  12. Once people learn to distinguish between a Zionist and a Jew, maybe we’ll get somewhere in these circular discussions.
    Who on here has commented on the Jewish protests against the Netanyahu government in Tel Aviv.
    You’ll be bombarded nightly with images from Syria, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Bahrain, Tunisia, but the protests of the people in Israel – no more than a squeak.
    Why is this?
    The media propaganda is clear.

    Do not rock the boat until after the grand plan is finished.

    Every tyrant needs a supposed enemy to control the feeble minds.
    (Gline Clark knows this.)
    Oops the USSR collapses, quick we need another one, who have the CIA got we could use?
    Oh yeah those guys we bought to fight the Ruskies.
    What they called? Mujahadin!!
    That’s no good “freedom fighters for Islam”, we’re the friggin’ fighters for freedom, wheel again.
    What ya got ?
    Al Qaeda, yeah that sounds good and spooky.
    In Arabic what’s that mean?
    The base, or in modern terms the database.
    Even better a worldwide network of unending terror, OK we’ll use that.
    No matter if it’s street slang for the shitter.
    BTW is there an actual database?
    It’s at Langley you say, even better.

    So now we have an eternal and nebulous enemy under our control, and by this we run the world, with popular support of the peeps who are so willing to trade their liberty for protection from what – from US.

    Wow! that’s a doozie.
    Who thought this one up?
    Blair? can’t be, not that poodle.
    No not Tony, Eric in his book “1984”

    Oh I never heard of him but get him round here.
    I think I saw a film once, Charlton Heston or someone, same storyline.
    All powerful protector, but really stretched shielding his flock from a supremely evil defector.
    The name escapes me, but I remember it well.

    Back to the present.

    The Zionists are really under the cosh for the first time in years.
    Internal protests, along with US questioning of the dichotomy of supporting both the Arab Spring and the suppression of Palestinian statehood.

    More importantly, Turkey.
    Erdogan is positioning Turkey as the beacon of hope for the newly freed Muslim nations.
    Angered by the murder of the peace activists, and snubbed for years by the EU, the newly elected government is using it’s renewed mandate to regain power from the military, and is rotating Ataturk’s statues from the ungrateful West, to the East for backup and the South for influence.

    The fun will start when Turkish warships escort the next flotilla to Gaza.
    Turkey will definitely respond to any interference.

    That really puts the cat among the pigeons.

    Israel will have to decide whether to back down or attack a NATO country’s warships.

    Tough call for both Netanyahu and Obama.

    One has to be discarded, the NATO treaty of mutual protection or the AIPAC lobby in DC.

    Which will it be?

    I dunno, but in the long run one has to ask, what strategic value has Israel to the US?

  13. @ straight talk
    you make statements about broad groups but it is possibly groups within sub-sets working together that fit the bill for pointing the finger of blame for world issues.
    eg. subset of neocon-american-israeli-zionists and business interests and all agents acting for single goal

  14. Sub-set all you want Kiki, I just see world events for what they are.
    Not random events, but a concerted effort towards world domination.

    Then some unknown unknown pops up and spoils the grand design, and at the same time exposes the marionette controller.

    P.S. Love the vids.

  15. The two state solution is the only way forward and both sides will need to compromise in terms of territory (the new borders) and philosophy (notably accepting Israel’s right to exist). The immediate problem is the illegal settlements which are preventing dialogue. The world is full of conflicts where the word settler crops up, either in today’s world (eg the West Bank) or in the past (too many countries to mention!).

  16. The terms, “settlements” “occupation” is a MYTH, created as propaganda, by the Islamists, and used repeatedly for decades, to fool the world into believing that the Jews, Israel are ‘occupying’ land that belongs to the Palestinians! Utter Hogwash!

    Israel is NOT* occupying any land, and it IS* their by Covenantal, historic decree, both Biblically, and by the UNITED NATIONS.

    First, there is NO* such people who are Palestinians, another MYTH, they are ALL a mixture of Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians, et al. Over 80% of all Jordanian passports, read, Jordanian/Palestinian, as JORDAN IS* THE* de facto Palestinian State, Arafat tried unsuccessfully, to OVERTHROW Jordan decades ago, and was KICKED OUT!

    Armageddon: The climax of Hate.

    To those ignorant Scoffers here on BU and elsewhere, who refuse to learn the FACTS historically and biblically, establishing the FACT that this HATRED for the Jews, by the Arabs goes back THOUSANDS of years, hear from God’s Word, yet again!

    “They say, ‘Come, LET US WIPE THEM OUT AS A NATION*; LET THE NAME OF ISRAEL* BE REMEMBERED NO MORE.’ They conspire with one accord; against You they make a covenant – the tents of Edom and Ishmaelites ( The Arabs), Moab and Hagrites, Gebal and Ammon and Amalek ( Jordan), Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre ( Lebanon); assyria ( Syria) also has joined them…” ( Psalm 83: 4-8- 1000-300 B.C) Emphasis added.

    Imagine, the above was divinely written OVER 3000 years ago, and SOUNDS, so strinkingly akin to what’s being taking place within the last 63 years, since the Jews went back home to their ancient homeland, ISRAEL, with the SAME VEHEMENT* HATRED* directed towards them by the ARAB, Muslims, Islamists, Jihadists, who tried within 24 hours of the officially, mandeted, STATEHOOD of Israel by the U.N, to WIPE them off the face of the earth, and the HATERS, of Israel just CANNOT get this done, why not, because Almighty God, who GAVE this land to the Jews, will NOT allow them EVER to be dispersed, again.

    Let us hear further from the LORD:

    “The word of the LORD came to Jeremiah: ‘Have you not noticed that these people ( Israels neighboring nations) are saying ‘The Lord has rejected the two families he chose’? SO THEY DESPISE MY PEOPLE (ISRAEL) AND NO LONGER REGARD THEM AS A NATION*.” ‘This is what the LORD says: ‘If I have not established My covenant with NIGHT and DAY and the FIXED* LAWS* of heaven and earth, then I will reject the descedendants of Jacob and David My servant and will not choose one of his sons to rule over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and jacob. For I WILL BRING THEM ( the Jews) back from captivity and have compassion of them.” ( Jeremiah 33: 23-26) Emphasis added.

    “I will lay waste your cities, and I YOU will become a desolation. THEN you will KNOW IAM THE LORD. BECAUSE YOU ( the Arab people) HAVE HAD EVERLASTING ENMITY and have delivered the sons of ISRAEL to the power of the sword at the time of their calamity, at the time of the punishment of the END-TIME, therefore, as I LIVE,” declares the LORD God, “I will give you (the Arabs) over to bloodshed, and bloodshed will pursue YOU; since YOU have not hated bloodshed, therefore bloodshed will pursue you.” ( Ezekiel 35: 4-6) Emphasis added.

    This all began 3400 years ago, and continues right up UNTIL TODAY, between the Jews and the Arabs, today Muslim, Islamists, JIHADISTS, whose SOLE, openly stated INTENT and PURPOSE, IS* the DESTRUCTION and ANNIHILATION of the State of Israel, and all Jews.

    And, the FACTS reveal and declare, from the early 20th century, that the Jews have constantly sought PEACE with the Arabs, making concession after concession, only to be BITTERLY REJECTED by the Muslim Arabs, who do NOT want peace, it is the EXTERMINATION of Israel!

    CANNOT HAPPEN, will NOT HAPPEN; stop MESSING with Israel, as you all will ultimately FEEL the WARTH of Almight God, one way or the other!

  17. Zoe,
    I lived in Israel for many years and know all the history as well as the legal basis of the claims of all sides. Screaming quotes from religious tracts and claiming that your version of the issues is the only truth achieves nothing and seems to be an attempt to supress meaningful dialogue. Your position is about as helpful (and as justified) as the rantings of the Hamas extremists.

  18. some hasidic jews support a palestinian state, as well as me, they state jewish people lived in the region with muslims with no issues for centuries before the zionist concept was dropped on humanity with segregation and western drawn borders

  19. What is Zionism?

    The term refers to the philosophy of the Jewish people’s restoration to “Zion,” which early in Jewish history was indentified with Jerusalem. After the Roman expulsion of the Jews from Jerusalen in A.D. 135, this ‘Zion’ idea was NEVER divorced from Jewish thinking, and Jewish prayers (both individually and corporate) emphasized the desire to return to their ancient homeland. the religious Jews dreamed of an end period of ultimate release from his dispersion among the nations of the world, and a return to the land of promise.

    Zionism, therefore, is at its core thinking, Jewish nationalism, and rightfully so, a deep seated desire, for the ultimate RETURN to their ancient Jewish homeland, which became a reality in May, 1948.

  20. Pure hogwash from Zoe as usual.
    The link clearly explains the difference….and what a difference it is.
    All the posturing will not change the obvious.
    Go ahead…..cuss now!!

  21. A few more historic facts, re Zionism, and how it came to be applied during the rise of the nineteeth century, and the rise of Hebrew literature, Jewish nationalism, and most importantly a fresh outbreak of anti-semitism, which stimulated groups susch as “Hoveve Zion” (‘Lovers of Zion”).

    Pogroms in czarist Russia after 1881 resulted in thousands of panic-striken Jewish refugees who realised that their ancent homeland, in the Middle East, Israel, was the safest place of refuge.

    It was premodern Zionism that emphasized a religious motive and quiet territorial settlement. With the publication of ‘Der Judenstaat’ (The Jewish State) by Theodor Herzl in 1896, however, political Zionism was born and with it the modern concept of Zionism. Therefore, it was a new era in Jewish history, that unfolded when Herzl, an Austrian journalist, changed from an advocate of Jewish assimilation to a belief that anti-Semitism was inevitable as long as the majority of Jewish people lived outside their ancient homeland. Herzl expounded political, economic, and technical efforts that he believed were necessary to create a functioning Jewish state. The first Zionist Congress met in 1897, and over two hundred delegates from all over the world adopted the Basel Program. This stressed that Zionism sought to create a legal home in Palestine, the land mass, that had NO offical Statehood, attached to any group of people for literally centuries, and what WAS the ancient homeland of the Jews, Israel, from O.T. times, up until their dispersion in A.D. 135, by the Romans .

    Thus, it was the first Zionist Congress, ( 1897) that created worldwide organizations to bind Jews together, strengthen Jewish national consciousness, and obtain consent of governments of the world.

    Yes, Herzl’s thinking was purely secular; in fact, he was an agnostic. The majority of his followers, were Orthodox southeastern Europeans, and while Herzl opposed turning Zionism into a cultural, religious, or piecemeal settlement society, he did make concessions to these advocates. The fragile alliance indicates the many facsts of Zionism during the twentieth century. To Herzl, the main goal of Zionism was to obtain a political charter granting Jews sovereign rights in their ancient homeland, from which they were last dispersed in A.D. 135.

    Zionism, therefore, became a mass movement, and political power during World War I. In 1917, the British issued the Balfour Declaration, which bestowed favor upon the establishment of a Jewish national home.

    It was the horror of the mass murder of a 100,000 jews by Russian army units from 1919 to 1921 and, ultimately, the horror of the Nazi Holocaust during World War II, in which 6,000,000 Jews were exterminated, that drew Zionists and non-Zionists together in support of the modern State of Israel- a haven for the persecuted and homeless Jews.

    In November, 1947, a partition plan creating a Jewish state, endorsed by both the United States and the Soviet Union, was ADOPTED by the General Assembly of the United Nations. The state of Israel was formally recognized on May 14, 1948, when British rule ended. As the young state strenghthened, the defintion of Zionism and what its current goals and purpose should be, have been heatedly debated within the World Zionist Organization itself.

    Zionism has been aided in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, by “Christian Zionists”, fundamentally, because of their prremillennial eschatology, which is unfolding, as prophecied in God’s Word, the Bible, daily, and, are particularly supportive of the restoration of the Jewish people to their ancient homeland, with all that’s currently going on at the UN, with this Palestinian charade, whose sole intent and purpose, along with other Islamic Jihadists states, is the ANNIHILATION of Israel, NOT so-called peace, NONSENSE, as the RECORD of the past 63 years, has repeatedly shown, that the Arab, Muslim states, only WANT the absolute DESTRUCTION of Israel, which will NEVER HAPPEN!

  22. Tomorrow morning, I’ll go into detailed historic facts regarding this ‘refugee’ plight of the Arab Palestinians, and why and who caused them to ‘flee’ from the nascent, newly born State of Israel, in May 14, 1948, literally, within 24 hours of the declared Statehood of Israel, 7 Arab neighbouring nations, viciously ATTACKED Israel, to WIPE them of the face of the earth.

    Question: Where all ethic and other religious groups, that already resided in Israel’s homeland, granted the FREEDOM to remain there?

    Answer: YES, this was made abundantly clear in the chater of of Israel!

    Question: Why did 750,000 Arab Palestinians run and leave the new State of Israel? Who was behind this exodus, and, therefore, who is responsible for this ‘inhuman’ refugee situation?

    Answer: Their Arab brothers, told them to GET OUT of Israel, so they could DESTROY Israel, and then they could return.

    Because these 7 Arab nations, failed miserably, in exterminating Israel, they then KEPT them in this terrible, disguisting refugee plight, expressly for political reasons, so they could FALSLY point their fingers at Israel, blaming the Jews for the refugee mess, which they have continued for the past 63 years.

    As King Hussein of Jordan said in 1960:

    “Since 1948 Arab leaders have approached the Palestinian problem in an irresponsible manner…They have USED the Palestine people for SELFISH political purposes. This is rediculous and, I could say CRIMINAL.”

    Also, in 1948, Musa Alami, an Arab activist, despaired as he saw the problem, he said, “how can people struggle for their nation, when most of them, (the Palestinians) do NOT know the meaning of the word… ” he then went on to say, “…The people are in great need of a “MYTH” to fill their consciousness and imigination…” According to Alami, an indoctrination of the “MYTH” of nationality would create “identity” and “self-respect.”

    However, Alami’s proposal was confounded by the realities between 1948 ans 1967. Remember, that when the 7 Arab nations attacked Israel in 1948, hours after its officially sanctioned UN Statehood, the Arabs took away the mandated land of Israel, and the Arab state of Jordan claimed annexation of the territory west of the Jordan River, the ‘West Bank” area of Israel- the same area that would later be forwarded by Arab “moderates” as a “mini-state” for the “Palestinians.” Therefore, that area, between 1948 and 1967, called “Arab land,” the peoples were Arabs, and yet the “MYTH” that Musa Alami prescribed – the cause of “Palestine” for the “Palestinians”, remained unheralded,, unadopted by the Arabs during two decades. According to Lord Caradon, “Every Arab assumed the Palestinians [refugees] would go back to Jordan, who for all intents and purposes, IS* the de facto Palestinian state, whose over 30,000 square miles, was CUT-OFF from the UN mandated land area for Israel, leaving Israel with just a fraction of their rightfully codified State.

    A salient FACT that is never mentioned in this issue, IS* the FACT that while official preperations were being made by the UN, in 1947 for the declaration of Israel’s new state, THAT over 800,000 Jews who had lived for CENTURIES in other Arab nations, were FORCED to FLEE, leaving behind their homes, etc, and NOT granted permission to sell anything, to take with them.

    So that, who are the REAL* REFUGEES*? This vicious use of Arab ‘Turnspeak’ propaganda, which inverts the FACTS, twist them, and presents them to the world, making Israel appear as the aggressor, when in truth, the Jews are the REAL Refugees, who have being relentlessly ATTACKED from the very DAY of their statehood, by the Arab, Mislim nations, and, having FAILED each and every time, to ANNIHILATE Israel, they CONTINUE to KEEP their Arab, Palestinian brothers, for devious political purposes in this terrible, refugee MESS!

  23. Zoe is going off on a tangent !

    After all the posturing and waxing with this ‘His’tory lesson, He refuses to admit (for obvious reasons) that there is a huge difference between a Jewish person and a Zionist.
    Spin a you want, it is as plain as day that there is a disconnect with Judaism and Zionism.
    Sadly, the Evangelical fanatics willfully ignore this FACT in order to justify their prophecy, which plays nicely into the hands of the Zionist, who uses this method of thinking to continually hide under the banner of ‘defending themselves’ while perpetrating some of the worst humanitarian crimes.
    As Straight talk rightfully highlighted, why don’t we see the protests going on by Jewish people against the Zionist Government?
    Why the divide?

  24. Now, back to the CORE reason of the Palestinian ‘refugee’ fiasco, always minful of the FACTS, that it WAS the Arabs, the very brothers of these Palestinians, who orchastrated their EXODUS from Israel in 1947/48, and for what purpose, were they TOLD to leave? So that the 7 Arab nations, who had carfully planned to INVADE the baby State of Israel, literally the same day that Israel became a State for the Jewish people, expressly to ANNIHILATE the Jewish state, THEN, the Palestinans were told, you can return to Palestine.

    This is where the so-called “right” of the Palestinian refugees to ‘return’ that we are still hearing today, concept, came from

    Before the crushing 1967 “Six-Day” defeat of the Arab countries, by Israel, always remembering,it WAS, AGAIN, these combined Arab nations, who gathered on the borders of Israel, outnumbering Israil military forces 20 to 1, and as Nasar, then President of Egypt said, it will be FINAL, Israel’s DESTRUCTION will only take a few days.

    Back to Arab activist, Musa Alami, whose idea of creating a “MYTH” for the Palestinians, that of ‘national’ identity, which NEVER existed before, Alami tried virtually singlehandedly to interest the Arab world in this propaganda program in 1948.

    In Iraq he was told by the Prime Minister that all that was needed was “a few brooms” to DRIVE the Jews into the sea; by confidants of Ibn Saud in Cairo, that “once we get the green light from the British we can easily THROW out the Jews.”

    But, the reality was much more complicated than the Iraqi Prime Minister had suggested. The Arabs had initiated HOSTILITIES in Palestine’ upon the November 1947 United Nations’ partition of Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state, employing outside forces and arms from Arab states as distant as Iraq, to PREVENT* the creation of the Jewish state, “a series of killings and counterkillings that would continue for decades.” Thousands of Arabs, including the most affluent, left for nearby Aran states BEFORE Jewish statehood. When Israel’s independence was declared in 1948, the Arab forces COMBINED to CRUSH IT.

    Beckoning to the Arabs.

    At the time of the 1948 war, Arabs in Israel too were invited by their fellow Arabs- invited to “LEAVE” while “invading” Arab armies would PURGE the land of Jews. The INVADING Arab governments were certain of a quick victory; leaders waened the Arabs in Israel to RUN for their lives.

    Here were the Arabs, instigating, the RUN AWAY of the Palestinians, so they could DESTROY Israel, listen carefully to the response of the Jewish Haifa Workers’ Council who issued an appeal to the Arab residents of Haifa:

    “For years we have lived together in our city, Haifa…Do not fear: Do not destroy your homes with your own hands…do not bring upon yourself tradegy by unnecessary evacuation and self-imposed burdens…But in this city, yours and hours, Haifa, the gates are open for work, for life, and for peace, for you and your families.”

    According to a research report by the Arab-sponsored Institute for Palestine Studies in Beirut, however, “the majority” of the Arab refugess in 1948 were not expelled, and “68%” left without seeing an Israeli soldier.”

    After the Arabs’ defeat in the 1948 war, which they STARTED, their positions became confused; as some Arab leaders demanded the “return” of the refugees to their former homes, despite the evidence that Arab leaders CALLED upon Arabs to FLEE. At the same time, Emile Ghoury, Secretary of the Arab Higher Command, called for the ‘prevention’ of the refugees from ‘return.” He stated in the ‘Beirut Telegraph’ August 6, 1948:

    “It is inconceivable that the refugees should be sent back to their homes, while they are OCCUPIED by the Jews…It would serve as a first step toward Arab RECOGNITION of the state of Israel and Partition.”

    O’ know, the recognition of a Jewish state, in the Middle East, could NEVER, EVER, be a consideration by Arab Muslims, NEVER, that is ANATHEMA to Islam, the Koran, and all Islamists, no matter how much it WAS ratified, CODIFIED, by the UNITED NATIONS, and no matter how much the Jews in Israel in 1948, as those in Haifa did, by telling the Arabs NOT TO LEAVE.

    The evacuation by the Arabs, and who instigated this, was also documented in President Truman’s International Development Board Report, March 7, 1951: “Arab leaders summoned Arabs of Palestine to MASS EVACUTION…as the documented FACTS reveal…”

    This is just scratching the surface of the vast amount of documented facts and evidence, confirming what took place in 1948, that it WAS* the Arab leaders who insited the EVACUTION of the Arab Palestinians from Israel, so they, the 7 nation INVADING forces could DESTROY Israel.

    These Arab Palestinians were then PUT in these teririble refugee CAMPS, by their Arab brothers, who could have easily accepted them into JORDAN, the de facto Palestinian state, but NO, NO, NO, the Arab leaders could NOT entertain such HUMANTARIAN kindness, as this would then remove their justification to continue their quest to DESTROY Israel, and they had to have a PLOY, a sinister, wicked agenda, to kept their INTENT, to ANNIHIALTE Israel, some day, some time, and no better way than to KEEP their Arab Palestinian brothers, in disguisting, refugee conditions, and to constantly FEED the world Media, with Arab ‘turnspeak’ inversion of facts, so they have for 63 years, used the terms, ‘end occupation’ and Israeli aggression, when Israel is NOT* OCCUPYING* any land that is not their by RIGHT, of United Nations, codified and ratified RESOLUTION, which is NOW, by an Arab controlled General assembly being INVERTED by the same UN, violating the very Chater Principles of the said UN!

    What a disguisting FARCE this UN is; a Charade of unspeakable DISHONESTY, a world body that has become a CESS-PIT, of anything goes!

    Now, to those BU et al sympathizers of the Palestinian refugee plight; I ask you in all honesty, of the historic facts, who are to really take responsiblity, for their EVACUATION from Israel in the first place in 1948, as revealed by documented evidence, and the consequent suffering of these Refugees?

    With the vast land area of MILLIONS of square miles, and the enormous wealth of the Oil producing Arab states, would it not be the humanatarian thing to, accomodate their Palestinian brothers, and look after them, having orchastrated their evacuation from Israel in the first place?

    But, of course, they will not do this, as there would be NO more insidious justification, for wanting a Palestinian state in the West Bank, and East Jerusalem, whose SOLE INTENT for such a PA State, IS* to get close enough to the heart of Jerusalem, to ANNIHILATE Israel and all Jews!

  25. and to think isreal thinks she had reached the promised land. seems like Isreal still circling the mountain. or visa versa.

    How is that for a new day Iran released the two hostages.Any bets that america is going to say thanks with “the Finger”

  26. Who are the other ‘REFUGEES’ distinct from the Arab Palestinians? It is assumed that the only unfortuantes who feld from their homes at the time of the Arab-Israeli War of Independence, ALWAYS mindful of the antecedent FACT, that the Arab Palestinians were INSTIGATED, to LEAVE by their Arab Brothers, so they, the combined forces of 7 Arab nations, could WIPE Israel off the Map!

    But, O’ know, there is another side of this story, that’s never told, the Jews who had to FLEE, from many other Arab states where they had resided for centuries, who were CAST OUT, because of the UN Partition plan to create an Arab and a Jewish state, and NOW had to nowhere else to LIVE, but in their ancient homeland of Palestine, Caanan, the land sovereingly given to them by Almighty God, for THOUSANDS of years, where Jerusalem WAS the Kingdoms Capital of King David and King Solomon, with some of the ancient WALLS still there, but denied by the Islamist, who fail utterly to mention, that JERUSALEM is NOT once mentioned in the Koran, but is referred to HUNDREDS of times in God’s Word, the Bible.

    Now, they want the Holy City of the Jews, Jerusalem, for their capital? Will NEVER, EVER, happen again, NEVER! Until, the Lord Jesus Christ, makes it a STUMBBLING STONE, to the nations of the world!

    Resettlement Opportunitites: Dignity Denied!

    Over the last thirty-odd years, numerous projects have been proposed, international funds provided, studies undertaken, ALL indicating the benefits that could be derived by the Arab refugees, (Palestinians) from their absorption into BRETHREN cultures of the Arab host countries. Various international bodies and independent Arab voices over the years have clearly CHALLENGED as IMMORAL* the position of the Arab in PROMOTING* the continued LANGUISHING of the Arab Palestinians, ’emigres who came WITHIN* their borders; also deplored on occasion is the Arab states’ departure from the free world’s unvarying precedent of granting to refugees around the world the dignity of resettlement within a compatible enviornment, where they can become productive citizens.

    From the beginning, the Arab host governments where offered unprecedentedly broad opportunities, based on the refugee’ rehabilitation, which could help develop their countries’ vast potential under the proposed aid programs.

    Syria and Iraq, at the time, were judged by many specialists in the area to be ideal for resettlement of the Palestinian refugees. Among many such findings was a report by President Truman’s International Development Advisory Board. Headed by Nelson Rockefeller, the board asserted that under proper development Iraq alone could have absorbed an Arab refugee population of 750,000 easily.

    According to the same report, Israel (which) in three years of its existence had absorbed a Jewish REFUGEE population, about equivalent in number to the Arab, Palestinian refugees…in FLIGHT from Muslim countries in the Middle East and North Africa, cannot reabsorb the Arabs who FLED its borders, but it can and indeed has offered to contribute to a fund for Arab resettlement. The exchange of the Arab population of Palestine with the Jewish population of the Arab countries was favoured by the League of Nations as an effective way of resolving the Plastine problem. In practical effect, such an exchange has been taking place. The resettlement of the Arab refugees is….much simpler…in Arab lands.”

    Pointing to Iraq’s special availability for resettlement and countering the Arab argument that the Arab refuges were “unemployable” – the same study emphasized that:

    “In the years 1950-51, 100,000 Iraqi Jews left the country…They left a big gap in the life of the city. Many of them were shoopkeepers, artisans or white collar workers, while 15,000 belonged to the well-to-do. The gap could be…filled….Again Iraq would also benefit.”

    The Arab and other Middle East countries, could have EASILY, without question, absorbed, the 750,000 Arab Palestinian refugees, who were the ones in the FIRST place, that CAUSED them to FLEE Israel…this FACTOR* must NEVER be forgotten, as it is CRUCIAL in understanding, the PLIGHT of these refugees.

    BUT, it was NOT then, nor is it NOW, in the interest of the Arab et al states, Iran, especially, to help these Arab, Palestinian brothers, as it does NOT* serve their PURPOSE, which is to KEEP these refugees, as a TOOL, so they can falsely insist on ‘right’ of return’ to Israeli Cities, so as to DESTROY Israel, some day!

    Stop MESSING with Israel, whoever, from Abraham’s day, that blessed him and his descendants, as God swore, were BLESSED, and whoever came against THEM, and cursed them, were CURSED* as Almighty God swore!

  27. Nice try Zoe!!

    No one is a Palestine sympathizer, why you love to label people is beyond me, People are more interested in equality of human beings.
    Instead you would condone suffering of human beings just to welcome in prophecy.
    You have done it with the Haitians, shown your contempt for Muslims, now here it is for Arabs.
    Whatever happened to love your brother?
    You claim that God protects Israel but we all know then that USA/Britain must be their God.
    How is it that you now condemn the UN?
    This is the same body that Israel shows no respect for today but there was a time when it was their best friend.
    Only when the resolutions are for, it is good…against and it becomes a cess pit…what hypocrisy.
    Continue with the (His)tory lessons and distract but you still havent convinced me that a Jew and a Zionist are one and the same.
    That was the original question.

  28. Greetings BU Bloggers

    @ Zoe aka Zionist Over Everyone?
    The greatest challenge for Man-kind is to unlearn Hatred and Anger!

    So in 2011 where most profess Equality and Equal Opportunity, you know what I mean; ALL (not some) Men and Women are created equal and all that, get this, under the Creator Zoe, that’s right under that which you call God. But for some contract Zoe, you allege in a book of many interpretations, the Palestinians are excluded, hmmm?

    Btw People are allowed to call themselves what ever they like! So Palestinians they are.

    Zoe, the practising of morals, ethic and equality etc, provides discernment to many that any book that denies any Living being on this planet the right to identity, basic self existences of food, water, education, movement, and a place to coexist, is a book of questionable nature. Yet importantly, it is your vehement interpretation that is in question.

    No doubt the book is in your head but it is time to fill something else in your heart…with the feeling of LOVE for mankind; of all races and identity in spite of any debatable flaws. It is time you invite a Palestinian into your home to stay with you and discover they are you in many compositions. Your shoes are too comfortable…it is time you walk in someone else’s in earnest. Your current indoctrination demands it.

    Mankind has been in university of Free Will for thousands if not billions of years. Graduation day is here. It is time to choose? Love or War, no in betweens. Have you heard that “a house against itself cannot survive?” Well Zoe a Planet against itself cannot survive either, think about that.

    A solution that creates a problem is not a solution. So the solution of allowing Israel to carry on as they are is no solution. and just in case you haven’t notice. The problem is that people; innocent women and children are dying at the hands of the most presumed god gifted people on the planet – if you accept the dogma. So Zoe the solutions is to set the Palestinian people free. and allow coexistence.

    Btw the last time I check it was not God dropping a bomb or pulling a trigger, it was people killing people, Unless you mean Genocide On Demand then God it is.
    Btw BU Bloggers the other problem with this issue is that many people do not understand that SILENCE an a Democracy is CONSENT! Encouragingly though, that voice is getting louder…..better late than never.

    @David | September 24, 2011 at 2:41 PM |
    In spite of the efforts of yours and Straight Talk et al, to raise Zoe’s consciousness towards peace and reconciliation and shake the old draconian rhetoric, trying to draw people outwardly he will, instead of inwardly. Zoe continues to Demon-strate that his heart and eyes are cold closed shut towards his fellow brothers and sisters the Palestinians

    Yet the other issue is that everyone is saying the Law this and the Law that, but there is no Law and self evidently so. What we have in the UN is contract agreement by member states aka Democracy, rule by the majority. Yet what a boys club joke it all is in plain view, if you got a critical bone in your body that is. 192 members of which 7 are permanent with veto powers. Now where is the Democracy in that? I mean a 127 of 192 members are saying enough is enough Israel yet must still meet with the approval of the US. Now David I know you know all of this already but I put it here in writing so real people can see it for what it is -utter nonsense.
    The overall point is that in Democracy there is no Law except for the Law of agreement within the contract of agreement with the majority of that agreement, subject to the tacit non enforcement of the agreement. huh?
    In other words if you sit silent while I breech the contract between us well so be it. Yep, This is where we are with the UN. The whole thing is a joke from start to finish. These men and women of the member states break the rules all the time (in spite disapproval of their people) and if their was a true law to be reckon with they would quite often end up in jail. The veto clause is also a front to true Democracy forum and you know it.

    This whole distortion of what Law is, needs to stop being propagated to the masses. In a true Law jurisdiction, Democracy would be obsolete because Rule by the Law is not the same as rule by the majority. Furthermore in a true Law jurisdiction an “unjust” law would not be a Law, this is one of its evolving strengths. I digress!!

    In conclusion Zoe you are a repeater of overspent, expired un-theorizes ideology at the expense of all the fundamental principals of moral and ethical (Hu)manity….an oxymoron position of deep gravity, which evidently your encyclopaedic regurgitation lacks the conscious elevation to free the (hu)manity within you! Perhaps a greater proposition is needed?

    Therefore, if there was an appeal towards you it would be this: INVITE LOVE in your heart; or STOP being a hypocrite or get a NEW TRANSLATOR/INTERPRETOR or ALL of the above!

    @ Straight Talk
    You get an A+

    take care of yourself and each other

  29. I see that the BU Scoffers, Bildge Pumpers, CLUB* has a new self-appointed GURU, a blatant pseudo-intellectual, IDIOT!

    A brief review of the Historic FACTS re Israel/Palestine.

    1) The original ‘partition’ plan, to create TWO states, one for the Jews,
    and one for the Arab Palestinians, was ACCEPTED by the Jews, and
    VEHEMENTLY REJECTED* by the Arabs. This is FACT!
    2) The Jewish states Charter, made FULL provision for ALL Arabs et al
    peoples, who were there to remain, to work, and build together the new
    3. It WAS the Arab brothers, who INSISTED, the Palestinian Arabs, to
    LEAVE quickly, so they could DESTROY Israel and ALL Jews.
    4. IT WAS the Arab nations, who KEPT their Palestinian brothers, in
    UTTER depravity, in REFUGEE camps, NOT the Jews! This they did
    for SELFISH, political reasons.

    Interlude: Was THIS behaviour by the Arab nations, showing LOVE, and EQUALITY, first, to their Arab Palestinians, and secondly, to the Jews, who were RELENTLESSLY, ATTACKED* from the very DAY of declared statehood? Who are the DENIERS of EQUALITY? The very ARAB nations!
    5. Has Israel ever DENIED that the Palestinians, should have their own
    state? NO!, Israel voluntarily gave UP, Gaza, for the sake of peace.Only
    to have HAMAS rain down THOUSANDS of ROCKETS and MORTAR
    fire from 2005, to this very day, on innocent civilian population!
    6. In KIND, LOVING humatirian SERVICE, Israeli Doctors, in Israeli
    Hospitals, have TREATED, thousands of Palestinian Children, men and
    women, over the years, and are STILL extending this humanitarian
    service DAILY.
    7. Israel HAS offered, in response to PLO/PA demands, up to
    almost 99% of the land they wanted in Israel, only to be REJECTED by
    Arafat, who then started an INTIFADA, KILLING innocent Jews, AGAIN.

    Question: Who was responding IN LOVE and humanitarian KINDNESS?
    Answer: Israel WAS! Who retaliated IN HATRED and KILLING of Jews? The PLO/PA, Hamas!

    Numerous other concessions by the Jews to the Palestinians could be cited. BUT, the PLO/PA, Hamas DON’T WANT peace, they want WAR with Isreal, to ANNIHILATE Israel!

    Finally, from the very BEGINNING, the Arab Muslim nations, NEVER, accepted Israel as a nation, and STILL REFUSE* to accept its legitimate RIGHT to statehood, and this FACT was made abundantly clear last Friday in New York, by Abbas.

    As Ynet news summarises:

    “On Friday afternoon, Abbas said he was ADAMANT about NOT* recognizing Israel as the Jewish state”

    Abbas said, “They talk to us about the Jewish state, but I respond to them with a FINAL ANSWER: We SHALL NOT* recognize a Jewish state.” ‘Abbas said in a meeting with some 200 senior representatives of the Palestinian community in the US, shortly before taking the podium and delivering a speech at the United Nations General Assembly.”

    And this new YO-YO, ‘myturn2speak’ talkes about equality, love and peace! From WHO? Israel has reached out in numerous ways, with LOVE and peace, time and time again, only to be MET with HATRED, VIOLENCE, and KILLINGS, from the PLO/PA, Hamas,et al vile HATERS of Israel, and Jews.

    What more can Israel DO, in the TEETH of such diobolical, HATRED, from the Palestinians who have made it abundantly CLEAR, we will NEVER RECOGNISE Israel as a STATE, NEVER!

    Such utter preverted logic, that comes from these BU DENIERS of TRUTH, FACTS, and evidence, only serves to confirm, WHO is their ‘spiritual’ father is, none other then, the ‘FATHER’ of all lies himself, Satan!

    So it be!

  30. The above is nothing more than ancient, Afrocentric, Egyptian, Nubian, et al rank, PAGANISM, POLYTHIESM, crass HEATHEISM, SPIRITISM, with a touch of ancient MASONIC MYSTICISM, thrown in, all of which brought Almighty God’s judgment DOWN on this ancient civilization, ultimate RUINATION, as He also did, on the Babylonian, Assyrian, Medo-Persian, Greecian, and Roman empires, ALL came crashing DOWN!!!

    And, in today 21st century IDOLATRY, rampant MATERIALISM, HUMANISM, cultural and moral RELATIVISM, EVOLUTIONARY ATHEISM, HOMOSEXUALISM, etc, etc., along with JIHADIST, Sharia LAW Islamism, a drastic rise in OCCULTISM, and CULTISM, plus the wicked elitist ONE WORLD ORDER thrust, bids well, for Almighty God’s soon to be visited ultimate JUDGMENT on this EVIL, that pervades every country, in varying degree.

    All foretold, and forwarned, in His Word, the Bible!!

    So it be!

  31. Zoe living in a dream world.

    “Police: Indict Rabbi Moti Elon for sexual abuse

    Police suspect Elon, one of the most prominent rabbis in the religious Zionist movement, of forcibly committing indecent acts on two minors.”
    – from Haaretz.com ,
    Wed, September 28, 2011 Elul 29, 5771.

    The Jewish sacred book ,the Talmud teaches :
    It is lawful for a girl three years old to have sexual intercourse (Abodah Zarah, 37a; Kethuboth, 11b,39a; Sanhedrin, 55b,69a,b; Yebamoth, 12a,57b,58a,60b).

    R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition and if her deceased husband’s brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. (Sanh. 55b).

    A girl who is three years of age and one day may be betrothed by cohabitation. . . .(Yeb. 57b).


    Definition for ketubah:
    A ketubah (; pl. ketubot) is a special type of Jewish prenuptial agreement. It is considered an integral part of a traditional Jewish marriage, and outlines the rights and responsibilities of the groom, in relation to the bride..

    review of the above-cited Mishnah: “When a grown-up man has had sexual intercourse with a little girl, or when a small boy has intercourse with a grown-up woman …” It is obvious that sex activity between a grown man and a little girl, and between a grown woman and a little boy, is a part of the woof and the warp of everyday Talmud life; such relationships, in the eyes of the Sages, are unremarkable. There is no prohibition on sexual activity between adults and young children — it is simply regulated.

  32. Teaneck Rabbi Arrested In Sex Abuse Of Two Israeli Boys
    Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

    ” Uzi Rivlin, a 63-year-old married Orthodox rabbi from Teaneck, New Jersey, was arrested today and charged with four counts related to the alleged sexual abuse of two Israeli boys, the Teaneck Patch reported.

    Rivlin is charged with two counts of aggravated criminal sexual contact and two counts of endangering the welfare of a child, prosecutors told the Teaneck Patch, which also reported that Rivlin’s bail was set at $175,000 with no 10% option, and that he has been ordered not to have contact with the alleged victims or anyone else under the age of 18.

    When the abuse allegedly occurred, the two 13-year-old boys were staying at Rivlin’s Teaneck home as part of a scholarship program, Scholarship Fund for the Advancement of Children in Israel, that Rivlin helped found.”

    Rabbi Sentenced In Internet Sex Sting

    By Jerry Markon
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Saturday, December 2, 2006

    A Maryland rabbi caught in a television sting operation was sentenced to 6 1/2 years in prison yesterday for trying to solicit sex from a 13-year-old boy over the Internet.

    David A. Kaye, 56, told the judge that he traveled to Herndon for what he thought would be sex with a boy “as a cry out for help to fight my personal demons.” Sobbing as he acknowledged his father, who sat in the courtroom in a wheelchair, Kaye said his conviction had made him face “the reality of who I am. . . . I know I need help. I pray that God allows me to get that help.”

    Kaye’s attorney, Peter D. Greenspun, said the rabbi, who was featured last year on the “To Catch a Predator” series on “Dateline NBC,” kept his sexuality secret and spent thousands of hours chatting online in search of liaisons.

  34. You ALL could post HUNDREDS of clips, on wicked, Homosexual Rabbi’s, Jewish serial killers, or whatever, as there has always being wicked, evil Jews, from the beginning, in fact GODLESS, Jews, as there are IN every other ethic and racial group of people on earth, and it will continue so until the very END!

    In the O.T. there were wicked Jews, idolatrous Jews, and there were ALL
    Judged by Almighty God, as He is no respector of persons.

    But, Almighty God, made a Sovereign Covenant, an Irrevocable Covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and there descendants, centered IN, the Promised LAND of Canaan, which HE Gave to the Jewish people, subsequently known as Palestine, with JERUSALEM, ZION, as its key place, where the Lord Jesus Christ, the KING of KINGS, and LORD of LORDS, will RETURN to, establish HIS, One Thousand Year rule.

    Wicked, evil Jews will BE judged, like all other wicked, evil Gentiles; who are NOT in Jesus Christ, so continue posting all the clips you like, as HIS* Covenantal purposes, with Israel, CANNOT be sidelined, by any of this VILE, wicked behaviour that you cite.

    These ‘Redherring’ distractives will not work, in taking away from the centrality of the issues, at hand!

  35. you could say the most corrupt are the extreme rich whether they be american jewish british whatever, (not all the rich), but a lot of money and power has been built through corruption

  36. ZOE sweetheart;
    thou doest protest too much.

    We can all see how the Zionist regime treats its Palestinian subjugates, and the world has a right to demand answers for this mistreatment, just as is has a right to demand free domestication of Palestinian land for settlement.

  37. And, the ARAB controlled UN General Assembly, in its Islamic agenda, FAILS utterly, in NOT bringing JUSTICE, to its Palestinian brothers, who THEY, in the first place, SUBJUGATED to REFUGEE dispear, and CONTINUE with this WICKED, selfish AGENDA!

    If anyone ‘…doest protest too much” it is the ISLAMIST LIARS!

    Its like a hungry man, (Gaza residents) standing before you, you HAVE a WAREHOUSE of food stuff, ( the Oil rich, enormous LAND mass Arab nations) yet, rather than feed him from your abundance, you are blaming a small little neighbour of his, ( Tinny Israel) for not feeding him.

    ST, me thinks, thou doest wilfully choose to remain in IGNORANCE, and intellectual DISHONESTY…too MUCH!

  38. ..
    . The Arabs have never come to terms with Israel’s existence within any set of borders whatsoever and are still seeking the destruction of Israel and its population.
    Any Palestinian state, regardless of who rules it, will produce escalated violence, terror and warfare in the Middle East, not stability or peaceful relations. It will seek warfare with Israel, not solutions to the economic and social problems of its citizens.

  39. Israel lies in the subtropical zone . White people are not indigineuos to the tropical /subtropical zone. This explains the high rate of skin cancer among the european populations that migrated to Australia and Israeel.

    “The skin cancer rate in Israel is among the highest in the world, the Israel Cancer Association reported yesterday. At the end of 2000 there were 3,631 skin cancer patients in Israel and around 200 die every year from the disease.

    Israel is second after Australia for occurences of malignant melanoma, according to the Health Ministry report covering 1998 to 2000. There are 14.8 cases of malignant melanoma in Israel per 100,000 men and 14.4 cases per 100,000 women. This is less than half the rate in Australia but higher than in North America, double the rate in the European Union and up to 14 times higher than on all other continents.”

    Source: Israel’s skin cancer rate second highest in the world- Haaertz.com .

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