It Is Time For Arthur To Cut A Deal With Mamma Mia!

Opposition Leader Owen Arthur (l) Mia Mottley MP (r)

BU has to confess the politics on the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) side at the moment is puzzling. With just over a year to go to a constitutionally due general election the commonsense strategy for both parties is to agree to a competitive slate of candidates and settle any grievances between members – especially if they are prominent – have them resolved quickly.

The recent DLP general conference appears to have Jack and Jill lining up behind Prime Minister Fruendel Stuart. If there was plan to hatch a Chris Sinckler plan it seems to have been placed on the backburner for the moment. What is shaping up to be intriguing is unravelling on the BLP side.

We all recall how Mia Mottley was taken out by the so-called gang of five. It came as a surprise if for no other reason it required George Payne to throw his hat behind Arthur. All kinds of reasons have been floated why Mia Mottley lost the support of parliamentary colleagues – the fear of Mottleyism, concerns about how party funds were being spent, the profile of persons she had following her which crowed out the ‘regulars’, her lifestyle, and the list is long.

After a quick bloodletting Mia Motley seems to have come to terms with the role she intends to play in the party. She will play the waiting game. With a couple 60 something old MPs in Owen and George her only potential  threat  to regain the leadership of the BLP  is from Dale Marshall, a no contest. All of her public statements have been delivered using a studied approach and her positions have taken a people-centric flavour, on some occasions at the expense of the party position.

What has muddied the issue in the past week is Arthur’s public cry that the BLP and Barbados need Clyde Mascoll. It will be interesting to observe how Arthur, who many still regard as a master tactician, will deliver Mascoll to the BLP and Barbados. If it were that simple!

During the last general election Arthur created tension in the party when he described Mascoll as a co-leader although he had previously endorsed Deputy Prime Minister Mia Mottley as his heir apparent. How will Mia, George and former schoolmate Dale Marshall cotton to the idea of Mascoll possibly entering the parliamentary group to bat at 2 or 3 in the batting order?

We know Duguid will not be standing for re-election and there is a question mark around the tired and sick looking  Rawle Eastmond. Whatever happens the dynamics of the BLP parliamentary group is about to change. Again BU asks, how will Arthur deliver Mascoll to the House of Assembly?

To add to the intrigue there seems to be an attempt from the BLP party machinery to flex its muscle by supporting Jerome Walcott for the Chairmanship of the BLP, sending a clear message to Mia Mottley who has indicated her interest to contest the position. Todays press quotes Mia Mottley as being surprised at seeing press ads which by accident or design describe Walcott as the incoming Chairman.

What is clear is that Arthur will have to cut a deal with Mia and soon. He cannot continue to alienate her with a general election looming.

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  1. @David and Obedient

    After the announcement on Taan’s replacement I saw pics of him hugging Fruendel. All seems well on that front. Someone will have to make room for Mascoll -in a consituency that is a good fit for him- or Owen aint gine look so formidable – like a captain of a team who can choose his players. Did not Thompson use that analogy regarding candidate selection? uh tell yuh. Chris Halsall could ask Mascoll what qualities must a constituency have that are to his liking. We wouldn’t want any not to his liking or “fit” to be rebuff by him. We all know he is God send of a representative.


    • Arthur appears to be tired and needs Mascoll as the lieutenant.

      Agree with Adrian that the Mascoll comment gives terrific insight.


  2. @Adrian Hinds | September 14, 2011 at 3:35 PM
    “But hear Clyde Mascoll recently in the news. “The constituency would have to be a good fit for me” Not the other way around. Who in their right mind would vote for someone making such a statement, doing so under the pretext that he will be their REPRESENTATIVE? Uh tell yuh under Owen’s approach, local needs and representation gone through de eddoes.”
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    Adrian, why are you trying to demonize Mascoll. When he speaks of “a good fit for me” did you not also hear him say that, if for example St. James North was the constituency in which he would run, the full support of the possibly retiring incumbent Mr.Rawle Easrmond, would be absolutely necessary?

    Listen carefully to what the man has said. If he did not obtain that full support from Mr. Eastmond, clearly, St.James North, in Mr. Mascoll’s thinking, would not be a good fit for him, simply because he would not want to be embroiled in unnecessary controversy.!

    That’s my interpretation of what he is saying, and I see nothing wrong with that. What makes you think that Mr. Mascoll would not be an excellent representative? He is a tremendously qualified, capable, humble and compassionate man, a serious community-minded activist, totally intuned to the needs of the people, and willing to serve his country. What’s your beef Adrian?


  3. I have a problem with people equating academic performance with brightness. A lot of our natioanl scholars, what have they contributed to our development overtime.

    Mia has to be a bright woman to be able to articulate an issue without written notes, listen to how she present her arguments, and it has nothing to do with public relations. So please give me a break. Dr Lowe do u think he can present in a coherent manner.

    I have some resrvation about mia’s performance as minister of education, but the problem with her she politicized the ministry by infleuncing who got promted or was brought into act. Had she not become to partisan she might have succeeded there.

    Pease note that i am not a supporter of her, but admire her brilliance. Remeber some people as they mature they get better and better and perhaps mia did, after graduatng from law school, so we should not be referencing how did as a young person but what she can do now. I know of persons who excel later in life.


  4. @David…
    Tired indeed, although he attempted not to build up Mascoll to much for fear that it might lead to questioning the validity of the “public” reasons given for his return to the leadership of the BLP. However, with his need of Mascoll, and the public knowledge of at least one other economist listed as his advisor -Brian Francis- this view propagated by the Arthur faction of the BLP that his economic skills are much needed may have falled short of it mark and sustainability.

    Oh Chris H you asked a question? lol!


    • @Adrian

      Perhaps in much the same way the late Tom Adams put on his gloves and fought for Arthur in that St. Peter fiasco years ago maybe Arthur intends to do the same.


  5. obediant | September 14, 2011 at 5:16 PM | I have a problem with people equating academic performance with brightness. A lot of our natioanl scholars, what have they contributed to our development overtime.

    Ditto: Duguid was either a Bajan scholar or exhibitionist. lol!

    so too was Jerome Walcott. Is he considered one of the best Ministers of Health in Barbados? I think not.


  6. @David
    There was a slight difference. Tom did not have to beg or fight to have his people as candidates and while Tom fought -in court- to produce Arthur’s first win, todate Arthur hasn’t been able to do the same for Mascoll. No one in their right mind will cast a vote for Mascoll to be their representative- his knowledge of economics not withstanding- He could be the BLP version of Darcy Boyce. lol!


  7. @obediant | September 14, 2011 at 4:38 PM
    ” Barbadians will not forgive him, mark my word.”

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    “Obediant”, (repeatedly spelt wrong, by the way) Do you think that Barbadians will forget the scornfully classist, disgraceful and contemptuous manner in which Clyde Mascoll was literally thrown out on the side-walk of George Street, after working his butt off, to rebuild the DLP, bringing them from an embarrassing defeat, having only retained their two safe seats in 1999?

    While Mascoll was working, where was Thompson? Wasn’t he sulking all over the place, not even speaking to “the other poor black boy Kellie” and smarting from the massive defeat meted out to him?

    Do you think Barbadians will forget the back room shenanigans wrought by the bourgeois elders of the Party to get rid of Mascoll, and replace him with their lazy blue-eyed boy?

    What did you expect any decent self-respecting person to do after receiving such vicious treatment? Barbadians will not forget!


    • @Truthman

      You must be given 2 out of 10 for trying.

      Barbadians will remember that the Mascoll led Opposition increased their foothold in parliament as a result of a national swing against the government.

      When you come to this forum show some respect.


  8. @David | September 14, 2011 at 5:20 PM |
    “@Adrian. Perhaps in much the same way the late Tom Adams put on his gloves and fought for Arthur in that St. Peter fiasco years ago maybe Arthur intends to do the same.”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    You call it “a fiasco” David, but what a blessing it turned out to be for Barbados! We need him again!


  9. @David | September 14, 2011 at 5:45 PM |
    “@Truthman. You must be given 2 out of 10 for trying.”
    “When you come to this forum show some respect.”
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    David, you have always behaved as though I am your nemesis, so you tend to save for me those little emotive expressions and pejoratives ike “show some respect” But that’s alright!. lol lol lol
    The swing had already taken place in 1994, when the DEMS left a bankrupt treasury, unemployment at an incredible 27%, lots of people out of house and land, and a country in complete disarray.

    Mascoll did work his butt off, whether you want to believe it or not, with ZERO help from Thompson and his jealous cronies like Phillip Greaves and Peter Morgan and co.


    • @Truthman

      The point is not whether Mascoll worked his butt off, there was a swing and to cap it his parliamentary colleaguest like the gang of 5 decided to throw their support behind Thompson.


  10. David, you are talking about some swing, but how come you have not commented on the nastiness that the DLP meted out to Mascoll?

    But If you want to talk about swing, talk about the one that was artificially manufactured in 2008, when the DLP worked a massive and lying deception on the People of Barbados, talking of corruption, and including pie -in-the-sky promises and talk of : Jobs No.1: Cost of Living – JobNo.2 : Cost of Living – Job No.3 –Cost of living. Are we still going to get the once heavily touted COST-U-LESS?


    • @Truthman

      The people have always been promised stuff by politicians not so?

      Can you pick a manifesto from either B or D and point to promises made which were all kept?

      Like Obama who promised hope the DlP promised low prices and you are right they both have failed to deliver.

      We can debate why but the fact is they have not deliver.

      Here is where we need to get serious in the debate.


  11. @ Christopher Halsall | September 14, 2011 at 3:54 PM |
    “Offer an alternative. …Seriously….”

    My alternative is wait for it … wait for it …

    Christopher Halsell … At least unlike Arthur and Mascoll, he works for himself and unlike Hinkson, he stands prepared to represent consumers in the battle against the most powerful utility that Barbados has ever entertained … ! Where the f#ck was Hinkson in that fight?


  12. His someone is going to stand for political office that person must have a track record of representing the causes of common consumers (which of course represents all of us) …


  13. To Obediant:
    I can not tell you who to like or not to like, but i draw the line when you suppose that you can make a statement about academics not being important and get away with it. when we speak to being bright, one has to have some form of evaluation; that is why acedemics are utilized in the abscence like in the case of Mia, NOTHING. It is a very good gauge of the person’s further development. If you went to the doctor and discovered that he was dumpsy would you allow him to do some invasive procedure on you?

    Talking with out notes is nothing big, and if after all the talk she does she can noy present some semblnce of an argument, then she would be worse than we thought. It sems as though you are one of those who are easily led by TALK.


  14. @ David

    Are you not a constant champion of good governance and transparency? How then do you support the denial of the constituency branch’s wishes by the Executive on the basis that Taan Abed is dead weight?
    If Verla Depeiza has so much to offer, the party should have nominated her to run in the St. John by-election.

    Anyway Barbados Today has an update on the Taan vs the Executive saga.


  15. I’m in total agreement with Taan Abed. The DLP executive is totally out of order to dump Verla DePeiza on the people of Christ Church West. The DLP is full of under achievers for parliamentarians, the like of Kenny Best, Michael Carrington, and Denis Lowe to mention a few. They are the ones that need replacing because they are making no valuable contribution to the political landscape of this country. All they are doing is robbing us blind, although on the BLP side it’s just as bad or worse. Both parties need leadership, that is the problem.Stuart and Arthur need to take their leave and let the young brigade Mottley and Sinckler run the damn thing. Just saying.


  16. @Truthman
    That added statement changes nothing for me regarding Mascoll carpet-bagging bout de place for a ride to parliament. It is an embarrassment to the good people of Barbados and to Mascoll himself. Good lord! Does he not feel unloved and unwanted; unable to find some place that would accept him while he still thinks a constituency must be a good fit for him?

    In the scenario he paints with St.James north; it is not only the current representative’s blessing he must garner; he must also be accepted by the branch, the party faithful and be seen canvassing the constituency so that voters can be informed in their decision to consider him, what is he doing to encourage anyone to look to him for representation at the local level? You see, my beef is about Arthur’s grass-root killing approach to candidate selection more so than about Mascoll. However, he being caught up in it changes nothing.

    Now that Taan has given an ultimatum to the DLP I am on board with him. I do not like kingmakers, candidate makers and those too-few who like to ride rough shod over the will of the people – in this case the party constituency branch- go Taan, the people apparently are with you.


  17. @ Aretti

    I can analyse and is very good at that. The woman is no dunce as you trying to potray her. Get off her back, as i say before i an not a supporter of her but admire her intelligence. So you wont convinced me otherwise.

    I suggest that you re-read my blog before you talk your rubbish.


  18. @ Truthman
    I was adamantly against the treatment meted out to Mascoll -the then LOTO- pissed off better defines my view of the whole sordid affair. However Chris Sinkler excoriated Mascoll’s tenure as LOTO detailing intimate collusion of the mind between Mascoll and Owen which to this day Mascoll has not answered.


    • Agree that Taan Abed has the right to resign challenge the decision.

      It would be interesting to know why the DLP executive dropped him.


  19. @Burthon

    Are you serious that there was not massive corruption under the last administration?

    You dont live in barbados. Tell the parties to work together to get the intergity legislation passed before the next election.


  20. To Obediant:
    It seems as if you want me to believe that you bright bright. I believe you. Remember your analysis came up with her ability to set out an argument and delivering a speech with out notes as bright. I also believe you. You bright bright


  21. Sisyphus don’t have anything on Owen, he is trying to do some succession planning but he has two big obstacles in his way (a) trying to find a safe landing (winnable seat) for Mascoll and (b) Mia Mottley.

    By some stroke of luck he may find a seat for Clyde but that leaves the Sisyphean task of making Mia irrelevant. Try as he might Mia ain’t going away, his latest gambit is to try to parachute Jerome Walcott into the position of Chairman of the BLP but Mia still ain’t going away.

    Mia in the eyes of this writer is in the “catbird seat”, just biding her time until the universe unfolds as it should.

    I even heard that her favourite song is “Time is on my side”

    Poor Owen


  22. @David | September 14, 2011 at 6:12 PM |
    “@Truthman. The point is not whether Mascoll worked his butt off, there was a swing and to cap it his parliamentary colleaguest like the gang of 5 decided to throw their support behind Thompson.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Hi David, I just got back in, and I am catching up on the postings while I was away.

    Your evasive response above is pathetic!


  23. @obediant | September 14, 2011 at 9:31 PM |
    “@Burthon. Are you serious that there was not massive corruption under the last administration?
    You dont live in barbados. Tell the parties to work together to get the intergity legislation passed before the next election.”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    First of all “Obediant”, the correct spelling of your name is “OBEDIENT.” I really should not be in discussion with anyone on this blog, who is so stupid that they repeatedly spell their name wrong, even after being corrected!

    Now … Come back and talk to me about corruption after you ask your George Street gang to declare HOW MANY MILLIONS of CLICO’S Policy Holders’ Money was plied into the DLP coffers over the years.


  24. @Adrian Hinds | September 14, 2011 at 9:20 PM |
    “@Truthman. In the scenario he paints with St.James north; it is not only the current representative’s blessing he must garner; he must also be accepted by the branch, the party faithful and be seen canvassing the constituency so that voters can be informed in their decision to consider him, what is he doing to encourage anyone to look to him for representation at the local level?”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Adrian, I hate to think of you as being a politically dumb, rattlebrained “CORNWELL.”

    So you think that Clyde Mascoll should actively canvass St.James North, even when the incumbent has made no declaration as to whether he will be a candidate in the next General elections?


  25. Kerrie Symmonds acting as Truthman Burton you are going from bad to worse, nothing you are writing is of any value or sense, you are looking childish and immature, is that what you want to known as ?


  26. Most people on this blog, and I daresay, in this country have misjudged Owen Arthur’s motives for taking over the reins of the Opposition. I will therefore give you my take rather than tell it to the US Embassy.

    Arthur does not really want to be Prime Minister again: he wants to deny that opportunity to Miss Mottley. You would remember that it was Arthur who manoeuvred her to leadership positions in this country. He had time to observe her, and in so doing he has come to the conclusion that she is unfit to be leader of this country. The problem is that Arthur has not taken the people of this country into his confidence as to the reasons for his drastic about turn on Mottley other than to hint about her alleged lifestyle, whatever that is.

    Arthur has therefore taken on the role of protector and saviour of this society, and based on his intimate knowledge of Miss Mottley, he has come to the conclusion in his mind that she is bad for the country. However, I would prefer if Arthur reveals his position to the public and let us judge the facts and come to our own conclusions.

    From my own personal observations and limited knowledge, it is clear that Arthur thinks that Mia is more unfit to lead this country than he is.


  27. Caswell
    I could not agree with you more. I guess rather than let Barbados know the facts about his decision Mr Arthur is holding all the heat.


  28. All those who expect (or are counting on) a divided BLP going into the next election, will be disappointed. Just wait and see. Meanwhile…seems like some trouble is brewing in the DLP camp. Will Abed have to resign from the DLP as he has threatened, or will the DLP leadership do the right thing and give him his due?


  29. @TRUTHMAN

    A DROWNING MAN WILL CATCH AT A STRAW, I CAN SPELL HOW I WANT. THAT IS THE NAME I WANT, NOT U WANT ME TO WANT, STUPID. PERHAPS THE BLP GOT MOST OF IT ELECTION FUNDS OUT OF CLICO’S COFFER. HOW ABOUT THAT.

    @LEMUEL

    i AM QUITE CAPABLE AND COMPETENT TO DEAL WITH YOU AND TRUTHMAN, NEED NO SYMPATHY FROM YOU.


  30. @lEMUEL

    sMaLl ThInGs amuses small minds. Since your mind is small,anything will amuse you. I am sure mia will make minced meat of you and your thinking in an open forun.

    @Enuff

    you still living,


  31. @Truthman
    So wuh happen that you ready to cuss me? You want tuh meet me someway and cuss me to my face over a beer? Lol!

    Was there not canvassing in St.James north from other BLP hopefuls? Is there not support from the branch for someone else? Yes the current representative intentions are not quite settle, yet someone –apparently not Mascoll- who is truly interested in representing the constituency and is from the same party, would inform the current holder of office of their intention should they –current holder- ultimately decide not to remain and run. There is no excuse and this is why Mascoll’s comment is so offensive. Who does Mascoll think he is????? That a constituency must be a good fit for him?

    @Caswell
    Owen does not need to be any clearer than he was in his UWI speech, now that wikileaks has corroborated the reason via Kramer per Philip Goddard. To attempt to “level” with the people as you insist would be to risk being viewed as a boldfaced liar. More recently he and the Arthur faction in the BLP told us that it was his economics background –given the current times- that led the BLP parliamentary team to rescind their confidence/loyalty in Mia and repose the same in Arthur; they also told said, “her time will come.” In addition, Arthur clearly told Mia that the BLP needs her. How does he now come and tell us something else?


  32. @Caswell Franklyn | September 15, 2011 at 9:06 AM | Arthur has therefore taken on the role of protector and saviour of this society, and based on his intimate knowledge of Miss Mottley, he has come to the conclusion in his mind that she is bad for the country. However, I would prefer if Arthur reveals his position to the public and let us judge the facts and come to our own conclusions.
    ========================
    But you write with such certainty that one would think you already know all the details as to why Owen changed his mind about Mia. Owen said he didn’t believe she could lead the party to victory in next election because public image is not favourable in the eyes of the electorate, and he wants to ensure victory especially with the economic crisis that developed. That seems to make sense to me since Mia really does have some image problems that many people (especially male voters) take issue with.


  33. Zack & Obediant

    Politicians need to come out and tell the whole truth: they would be respected, instead we often see them trying to protect the party’s image.

    I happen to have intimate knowledge of the BLP, but it is not my place to reveal things that I learned when we were on good terms. Sometimes, I might have disagreed but turned a blind eye for the “good of the party”. I can assure you that Arthur can reveal things that might give the country reason to pause.

    Just an example of how politicians only tell half truths. Zack you wrote, “Arthur clearly told Mia that the BLP needs her”. What Arthur really wanted to tell Mia is the BLP needs her to shut up and keep quiet.


  34. @David, “OBEDIENT” (correct spelling), Adrian, Just Asking For What, and all the others ……….
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I am really enjoying this. I have riled up you guys so much, and now I’ve got you all gunning for me. Listen up Fellows; I am the ultimate teflon guy …. I can take a punch and get back up! My rope-a-dope Muhammed Ali style will wear you out, and then I will deliver the knock-out punch!

    Now to this TAN ABED thing. I thought that that “Freundel Bear Hug”, had solved the whole issue of discontent down in Christ Church West. And please note Adrian, that the Branch Secretariat is FIRMLY behind Abed. I also note that the Bourgeois fellow, Greaves, one of those mulatto shadows that conspired to shamefully oust Clyde, is shadowing his niece Verla, as he conspires YET ONE MORE TIME, to oust Tan. This is clearly a DLP thing.

    @Adrian …… No thanks, I don’t drink beer
    @ “OBEDIENT” (correct spelling) …… Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. I am also aware that brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but incredible stupidity can usually be traced to an organization ….. You a DLP member?


  35. Sargeant wrote,”his latest gambit is to try to parachute Jerome Walcott into the position of Chairman of the BLP but Mia still ain’t going away.

    Jerome,Mia, Mia, Jerome. mmmmmmmmmm.

    Both well educate Barbadian politicians.


  36. @Truthman
    You haven’t riled up anyone; your arguments and position are very very typical and flat. My position has not changed; what is occurring with Taan is identical to what Arthur tried in the same constituency with Duguid and Kerrie Symmonds the then carpet-bagger.
    Mascoll finds himself in the same boat as Kerrie Symmonds; unfortunately Arthur is not in a position to “create” a constituency for him; although I think his personality wouldn’t make him a one term parliamentarian like Symmonds. There is nothing worse than an perpetually unmannerly, and persistently angry man with a girly voice such as Kerrie, who has “lost” in more ways than one.


  37. @Caswell Franklyn | September 15, 2011 at 10:58 AM | Zack & Obediant

    Politicians need to come out and tell the whole truth: they would be respected, instead we often see them trying to protect the party’s image.

    I happen to have intimate knowledge of the BLP, but it is not my place to reveal things that I learned when we were on good terms. Sometimes, I might have disagreed but turned a blind eye for the “good of the party”. I can assure you that Arthur can reveal things that might give the country reason to pause.
    =====================
    So it is not your place to reveal what you know. Is that due to some code of ethics? Afraid of being called a traitor or something like that? Afraid of being treated like Peter Wickham? If you have knowledge that you think the citizens of this country can benefit from, then aren’t you doing us all a dis-service by not revealing it…just as Owen may be doing?


  38. @ Adrian
    I grasp the subtlety, the inference in your insulting comments. You are one of those who believe that I am Kerry Symmonds. You will always describe my position as flat and typical, but I know that is your style of evading the truth.,


  39. @Burton(not the one who was in the house and was involved in crooked activiteis) if that waht you want to potray by using that blogging name.

    Sometimes people like you believe that is your way or the highway, but forget that some of these bloggers have intimate knowledge of what goes on in cenrtal government and statutory boards, and thereofore in a postion to counter people like you,
    I am capble of holding a sustained debate with you and defeat you hands down, You, enuff and lemuel cannot run me from this blog. So go and come again you trio

    A fool and his money will part company. What about you, since you are a fool are you going to part with the blp.

    @Adrian

    Dont be dismayed by him, his form of defense is to attack in a vulgar way, thats him to be agressive,beat and fight and destroy.

    @Caswell

    you have changed, didnt you spill your guts about the uniopn which had empyed you, so saying what you know wouldn’t be nothing new


  40. @Caswell
    When it come to Mia, it boils down to what type of leader people perceive her to be…the types of policies she would seek to implement. Perception is reality, and she scares some people.


  41. @Truthman
    Don’t know who you are; don’t care, and all the more so if you are a policitian. The Kerrie reference is relevant to the Taan Abed’s unfolding situation, same constituency, same approach of candidate making, and my consistent opinion on both; different party notwithstanding, for they are separated by their party colours only. De insult to kerrie is also consistent; never liked him, and harden my view of him after he “bullied” his then wife. What truths of yours am I ignoring?????


  42. Obediant

    You got me all wrong. What I wrote about NUPW was not confidential: it was available to all members in accordance with the union’s rules.

    I obtained the information that you want me to reveal because I was an assistant secretary of the party and also a personal assistant to a minister. You would not want me to be a traitor by revealing confidential information? Would you trust or respect me if I did? I would not be able to look at myself in the mirror without puking.


  43. MIA FOR PM… that should be the slogan for the BLP. Owen trying to beg a spot for Mascoll, Mr. Mascoll please take your family’s advice and don’t run. If Owen feels that the BLP can’t do without Mascoll well he blind as bat. The BLP can’t do without MIA. MIA FOR PM. MIA FOR PM ! Wunna hypocrites out there better listen to what this brillant woman has to say. We are not without faults so eff wunna want a Virgin to be PM dem ent born yet. But wunna wutless rass Klats want a man whore to be PM, a unwed father to be a PM and feel that MIA ain’t good enough because wunna menz cahn poke she wid wunna ice pick s wunna got problems wid MIA. Right now with all what is going on in both parties I can’t see any person of QUALITY with the exception of MIA , to lead Barbados. The only problem is that the rest of candidates don’t add to too much. We got problems, real problems.


  44. Zack | September 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM | @Caswell
    When it come to Mia, it boils down to what type of leader people perceive her to be…the types of policies she would seek to implement. Perception is reality, and she scares some people.
    ===============================================

    I have no fear of giving someone an opportunity to implement things they have offered up publically and that I think is needed. I remain no fan of Mia Mottley, but my personal view of her has to take a back seat to what is good for the country economically, socially, and with regard to governance change. Mia is the only living politician that has spoken with much detail about these things.


  45. @David

    I don’t get involved in the cussing of people I know and worse yet, people I don’t know. I read all 147 comments so far and boy oh boy, Baje loves to hang you out to dry even when the rain is falling. lol
    My contribution differs. I read Mr. Mascoll’s article in Today’s Nation and as a economics novice, I am confused. Can you or any of the other BU economists help me understand the logic in the article captioned ‘WHAT MATTERS MOST – Why high local gas prices still?’

    He is quoted as saying inter alia,

    “This is a simple matter that needs a simple explanation to the following question. Why are local prices for gasoline, diesel and electricity rising when international oil prices are declining?

    This week’s Barbados Business Authority carried a story headlined Us Trade Deficit Narrows To US$44.8b. The explanation for the narrowing of the deficit was: “A record level of exports and a drop in oil prices narrowed the United States trade deficit in July to its lowest point in three months.” What matters most here is “drop in oil prices” and “July”.’

    BNOCL’s clear-the-air notice stated: “The public is aware that the retail [pump] price of gasoline and diesel is set by Government based on the purchase invoices of the previous month. There is therefore a time lag between the time of purchase on the international market and an adjustment to the local price.” What matters most here is “based on the purchase invoices of the previous month”.

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    Paragraph 1 of the above extract deals with price at the pump and electricity cost in Barbados.

    Paragraph 2 deals with the world market price of oil,(nothing to do the retail price at the pump in US) and Trade deficit in the US.

    Paragraph 3 returns to the retail price of gas and diesel at the pump in Barbados.

    My question is why didn’t Mr. Mascoll mention the price increase of gasoline at the pump in the US ,over the same period as Barbados although the world market price of oil decreased.

    I believe that the answer lies in the following URL’s

    http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_18900882

    http://www.canadianbusiness.com/article/45350–us-consumers-paid-more-for-gas-food-rent-and-other-items-in-august

    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cpi.pdf

    I hope you can open all three sites but in case you can’t , the respective topics are. You should be able to Google the data.

    Consumer prices, unemployment claims rise

    US consumers paid more for gas, food, rent and other items in August

    CONSUMER PRICE INDEX – AUGUST 2011


  46. @Caswell
    You are caught between a rock and hardplace. Political parties and public sector Unions have been a persistent drain on the public. Time for you to find a new cause that puts on the side of the people, away from these two blood sucking institutions. Why do we need public sector unions in a social decomcracy such as Barbados? chuspe!


  47. @Chuckles
    good for you. Fruendel once said that Bajans no longer needed politicians to tell them what is going in the world. Why do we need Mascoll as appose to someone else in parliament again?


  48. Mr. “OBEDIENT” (correct spelling) …. Seems I have influenced you, because you are tagging along in my lead by trying to refer to me as a fool. You stupid man, I will repeat to you:

    Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. I am also aware that brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but incredible stupidity can usually be traced to an organization ….. You a DLP member?

    @Adrian …… I see that you are still holding to your illogical position. You want Mascoll to actively canvass St James North, without the support of the imcumbent, who has not yet made a decision …… but consider how untenable Verla’s position is in Christ Church West, where she is canvassing the area WITHOUT the support of the Constituency Branch. As a matter of fact, they actually want her REMOVED!

    Before you start talking about the other Burton, the former speaker, the person you should talk about, (if you want to discuss former speakers) is that Gentleman, former DLP Speaker Maxwell, and Publisher of the DEMS RAG, The Democrat.

    The DLP, true to form, utterly destroyed the man many years ago. They ran and left the poor man in despair, such that he died sad, sick and miserable.


  49. To Obediant:
    I had quite a laugh about the Mia thing in an open forum; I am not Truth Burton , he interfered with you. I was just trying to help. Didn’t I say that you with your bright bright analysis you would do him in. by the way I am neither B or D.


  50. @Caswell Franklyn | September 15, 2011 at 12:07 PM | Obediant

    You got me all wrong. What I wrote about NUPW was not confidential: it was available to all members in accordance with the union’s rules.

    I obtained the information that you want me to reveal because I was an assistant secretary of the party and also a personal assistant to a minister. You would not want me to be a traitor by revealing confidential information? Would you trust or respect me if I did? I would not be able to look at myself in the mirror without puking.
    =======================
    Wouldn’t you be doing it for a bigger and better cause? Wouldn’t you betray a few to save thousands? It’s called doing the right thing. Politicians are hired to do the people’s business, so why should anything in the line of that work be hidden from the people? Here’s your chance to show that you’re a bigger man than Owen (literally and figuratively).


  51. To Obediant:
    I f i were a D like you , I would get here and stroke Mia’s foolish ego too. Because come elections and the voters have to deal with leaders and their intentions, it would be very easy to see Mia’s plainly down the road. Can you imagine your daughter having to get “feel up” by another woman to acquire a job or your son doing things against his will, for Mia do not let you chose ask the young girl who ran the apartment with Mia in tow with the dildo.


  52. @Adrian Hinds | September 15, 2011 at 12:11 PM |
    I have no fear of giving someone an opportunity to implement things they have offered up publically and that I think is needed. I remain no fan of Mia Mottley, but my personal view of her has to take a back seat to what is good for the country economically, socially, and with regard to governance change. Mia is the only living politician that has spoken with much detail about these things.
    ==========================
    The DLP spoke alot about integrity legislation before they got elected too. It’s the nature of the political beast.


  53. @lemuel: “by the way I am neither B or D.

    If you say so.

    But it cannot be denied (based on the empirical evidence) that you are actioning an agenda.

    And thus everyone should take everything you say as being questionable.

    No?


  54. To Chris:
    I really am not Bor D, bur my friend Obediant has lumped with some fellows here. Like the typical political follower, he believes that i am against his party. My position is that Mia Amor Mottley at any level of leadership in barbados shall be a disaster waiting to happen. Some of the most heinous things done by her was when she was the ATTORNEY GENERAL of Barbados. By the way what are you doing over here, I left you serenading Kiki.


  55. @lemuel et al… Believe it or not, we Bajans are smart enough to know when we’re being lied to.

    Particularly by foreign agents who pretend to be beside us.

    And don’t worry about Kiki and me — we have an understanding. “Friends with Benefits” I believe it’s called….


  56. To chris:
    If you want to know about foreign agents , check the man Peter the spy Wickham. He may not have any more use for his spying tools as he has been outed. But before he goes I am sure the embassy shall be trying disparately to replace him. This spying this does not stop; he exposure was only a hic cup.


  57. @Lemuel

    People like you jump to conclusions so easily, i am not a supporter of the BLP or PEP, I will support the DLP until i die and not Enuff’s party, so you go and come again.

    I still maintain that mia is a bright woman and intellectually, you cannot handle her,

    For your information, i voted for the DLP seven times and when i have to criticize the party i will, and if I have to give praise to any mrmber of the oppposition that I consider BRIGHT i will.

    What you have not said some better than what you have said. Bring it on,


  58. @Lemuel

    If u have the facts about what she has done spell them out, facts can not be refuted so dont thing you can make statements like that and get away with it. You cannot be preosecited for stating facts.


  59. To Obediant:
    Why are taking a sledge hammer to murder a fly. I am but a simple minded person with an opinion on Mia Mottley and her sordid behaviour. Yet, you want to through all of that WEIGHT on poor me; call BAFBPF I understand that he like them that heavy. About you being bright bright, I agree whole heartedly. But check with MIA she may have a difference of opinion she does not like man.


  60. @Lemuel

    I had thought you said i was a B, so now that i have corrected that, i will respond further. I hear about the rumours about MIa and what about the males who do likewise to young boys and girls, that is use their positiona power to exploit them sexually.
    The rules should be the same for all person. A person 18 years can make a decison for his/her self. I believe you should always have self esteem.

    Why have you chosen Mia to talk about her sexual escapades, what about others in the blp and my party there rumours too about some of them. You fortgot that i said that i am not a supporter of mia, i admire her brighness thats all, I dont have to stoke her ego, i am sure she knows how to get it done or do it herself. Why not look at the sordid behaviour of some of the men of the cloth. I mean all the denominations.

    your response, i await


  61. @Adrian …… I see that you are still holding to your ILLOGIAL POSITION. You want Mascoll to actively canvass St James North, without the support of the imcumbent, who has not yet made a decision …… but consider how untenable Verla’s position is in Christ Church West, where she is canvassing the area WITHOUT the support of the Constituency Branch. As a matter of fact, they actually want her REMOVED!
    ===========================================
    Logic is only required when the truth is unknown, and fallacies are incorrect arguments that leads to misconception or presumptions.

    The truth is….
    Chartered accountant and BLP treasurer, Douglas Skeete has previously canvassed the constituency in the company of his cousin, BLP chairman and St. Andrew MP George Payne.

    The logical approach is to be prepared no matter what….
    Do you know of any test cricketer who begins preparing himself only after being selected to the team?

    Verla’s approach is the right one. Hit ground while things with the exec and branch are worked out, if it works in her favor, she is ahead of the game; it if does not swing her way, it is simply the price you pay for being ready.

    You remind me of those people who start storm preparations when the rain starts to fall.


  62. @Burton, the crooked one

    I have got under your skin, which was my intention.

    @caswell

    I went back to some of your blogs about the Union, didnt you talk about things you and the GS would hade discussed in the execution of your duties. You had held a position of trust in the Union and you spoke about things you would have known about in the emply of the Union, Correct me if i am wrong.

    @all

    politics is about perception, that is what the electorare perceive that you can do as politicians . Politicians are actors, they tell us what we want to hear and make us hysterical and go and support them, They are no fools, yes some of them are foolish and some are bright, like mia.


  63. I’m but a simple minded bajan with limited commonsense but I would like to know which DLP candidates will be campaigning on the CBC 8 News tonight. I would like to know why every night the said news is dominated by this DLP campaigning, is this now the offical DLP station? I would like to know if the BLP would get equal coverage of their conference that was given to the DLP? Mind you I’m neither B or D, I’m a simple bajan voter that will weigh the two parties when the time comes and then decide which one to vote for, THIS IS MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.


  64. Sometimes it is better for people to keep their mouths shut,did Donville Inniss think before he spoke about Arthur trying to get Mascoll as a candidate? If he did, maybe is memory is quite short, if it is let Abed and Husbands remind him what his party did to them. This don’t mean that two wrongs make a right, they are both guity of “cherry-picking” candidates against the wishes of the constituents.


  65. A simple check will show that Larry Mayers won the nomination in St.Michael South Central and was replaced by Richard Sealy. Nothing new here. What is though, is Truthman Burton resorting to name calling. Backed into a corner,what was a bee turned into a snake.Seems to me that the Rattlesnake’s cage has been rattled.


  66. @Hamilton Hill
    Truth Burton as a rattle-snake? really? Clearly not someone with substantive arguments in this thread. lol!


  67. To Obediant:
    You would never hear me say that Mia should not be prime minister. If the populace are inclined so be it, but they need to know what baggage comes with that decision. The men of the cloth are not running for office; my earlier posts would indicate to you that I do not have a beef for people with the alternative lifestyle. But I have a beef with someone who I know would be a despot if ever given a chance. You thought tom adams was bad; he pales in comparison with your bright girl Mia Amor Mottley.

    Remember when I am discussing Mia I am not just talking about the escapades of of her sexual orientation; i am speaking to her life style and philosophy as evidenced in the escapades and her sexual exploitations. I do not dislike her. But she is BAD BAD for barbados. You know why she is running the football tournament, she likes to smoke and generally there is smoking at those things. Mia then is clearly in her element and smoked up to the hilt.


  68. A blind man can see that the Gang of 5 wish to alienate and malign Mia. It shows a mysogeny, dishonesty and disregard for what is best for the country. They are facing their aging and inevitable and eventual irrelevance with fear and an ardent lack of dignity.


  69. @random thougths and @lil boy: grow up Mia DOES NOT care what u think. she is well loved and admired in her constituency as well as outside. be that as it may. no one give’s a rat’s tail what u think


  70. @Jennifer | September 16, 2011 at 12:32 PM |
    A blind man can see that the Gang of 5 wish to alienate and malign Mia.

    I would say she’s doing that all by herself, and behaving like a spoilt child.

    @chocolate city husssle
    CCH, go hustle somewhere else. Mia may not care what others think, but others are concerned about her behaviour!


  71. your comments to obediant (sept14)well said were courageous but truthful’ i observe the usual red herring from david when he cannot respond adequately but the truth is the truth. the bowels of the dlp are not genuinely grassroots and there will never be leadership positions for the kellmans, mascolls, morrisons, whitakers, hammie-las and those without pedigree. at least, the so-called conservative blp was able to present the son of a shopkeeper son from behind god back to lead this country; and what the dlp rejected might one day lead the country too as a member of the blp.who knows?


  72. @Balance

    how do you knoq lemeul’s comments about Mia were truthful?

    @Lemuel

    I have deducted that you have a personal vendatte against Mia and want to hold her not to the same standards of all politicians. I will close off any further discussions with you baout her and end by saying what good for the goose is good for the gander, Ploticians and persons in public life should confrom to the same standard of behavour. They are all in position where they can use their positional power to coerce people to do things if they want to derive benefits. In management it is called power dominance and there must be at least two willing parties.

    I gone off of this topic, and leave my bright Mia alone, as you cant have pins with her yah hear.


  73. Well Well Well –not surprising at all
    An examination of why BLP lost last election would tell why it would not be surprising.
    Mia’s fraternizing with the enemy might be in question


  74. To Obediant:
    Yard fowls like you are so taken up with BLP and DLP things that you do not even recognize when someone is positing a position. My position goes for any other politician. I must admit as a yard fowl you pretend to be bright bright.


  75. @David:
    Why David as if you did not know, it is football. lol! I guess they will have to tell Mia to her face that Arthur actually lied when he once said “The BLP needs you.”


  76. The BLP style lights, action, cameras the Razzmatazz the way the BLP like it.

    I will tell you that Mottley is a spineless beast to be spitted on as she has by Arthur but still want to be holding on for the scraps from the table of power is very sickening and sad for a woman with the bite that she carries.


  77. What has Mia Mottley done publicly to deserve what is being thrown at her? What is very clear is the myth that the BLP and DLP are democratic institutions. Is it any wonder that we cannot get any traction to strengthen our democracy and to include the people in this process!


  78. @Lemuel

    It is sad, when dunce like you envy bright yardfowls like me. A yardfowl can outlass any bigbreed fowl like you.

    Sorry I had to come down tou your level and the others who have a habit of referring to some of the bloggers as yard fowls.

    When you ready to reach my level as brightness as you have ascribed to me, we can have a meaningful discussion, even thoufh that i have suspected that all you know is guttar behaviour as that is where you come from and you are not capable of atleast moving incrementally from there. Sorry , i cant join you there very often, Enjoy yourself among the debris in the guttar.

    Had to respond to you.

    Have a guttary day.


  79. Arthur once questioned Mia’s morals, a man who had many daughters with other women while still married to Beverley – this is a bare joke… Mottley needs to create a NEW party, one which does not mind getting contributions from “A FEW WHITE BOYS”?


  80. Things are not to be judged good or bad merely because the public think so, and I Tacitus say that this is the case.
    Bajans should never let a woman rule them, politics is about favours among real men. They do not have to be all black, but they must fight back against ambitious women and over enthusiastic young people. So it is not about whether Mia is right or that I am unjust (and everyone knew that since Thompson exposed me with the cheque). This is about power and Ilaro Court and the potential for making sure all of my daughters have healthy bank accounts. It is not about Bajans, but if Mia want to go and form her party, let her go, we do not need women at the top of the BLP. This is a man’s hunting ground. It is I Tacitus that say that! Men, large and in charge cause we aint want nuh women leading we.


  81. If ever there was a homoerotic comment, it sounds like that bulling b*tch Jerona Wacott – such claptrap went out with Greek (bulling) city-states and Shakespeare’s all male acting Globe Theater (more bullers)

    If you wanna bull go ahead, but don’t force it down my throat, Ppl can have lifestyles which do not enter in the fray as others have learned, let’s have progress even if it is funded by not only whites but Indians & Muslims of Barbados

    Do we let Owen sell off every scrap of land? Wait for the next Parris cheque into Arthur’s personal coffers?

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