Caswell! Let me give you some practical insight to same sex relations.If there is any truth in the saying that all saltfish sweet, then I do think that whoever likes salt fish should by all means have salt fish. In any ineventuality,same sex relations have been ‘on’ in Barbados for ever! The deceitfullness of those who secretly enjoy the rompings still point fingers of gays to prove that they are’normal’. Bull shit! It is time that the laws in Bim change off the books of law and legalise it and while they’re at it…legalise marijuana too! Some persons have been so fucking fucked up by rape, molestation, and forced ideas that gladly some solace comes when they find some one with whom they share something in common.Does anyone whose lifestyle is rejected by family deserve to be left an inheritance- I don’t think so! Does it ever occur to you that same sex marraiges does not always envolve sex, sex, sex? Something from 79AD goes like this:- “Love wears a painted smile,love and honor are for sale. In a world so decadent without wars but time is running out”.

think so! Brothers who say that their relitives should be castrated because of their choice of sex should have the unpleasant surprise of having all gay children! So then! Let the rainbow flg reign and

There has to be ah balance ah left and ah right ,male and female,up and down, breathe in and out ,once de ppl who want this lifestyle so bad get it next thing is they will want to adopt children,can 2 men or 2 women raise ah child ,they should only be allowed if they can have sex and produce 1if they cant then something has to be wrong about it ,some of wunna getting on like if wunna aint know this thing got de schools in ah state because big ppl in society pushing fa this bulla thing,but if ah man grow ah lil herb tree to smoke of make lil tea he is de worse,want locking up,but some of u are allowed to buy ah 40oz rum from massa and get drunk is ass and beat wunna women ,yes! i grow up seeing that , so when men and women become lovers of themselves and it is allowed by society; but young ppl in bim aint allowed to use this herb plant for their own use, but society is allowed to drink as much alcohol as they want ,the shortage of herb (as is now at present )will continue to drive up acts of violence.Dont mind what the AG say some off the ppl who use herb are acting out there frustration because of the shortage and he knows it,so in de whole u cant allow one evil and fight down another ya either right right or wrong wrong .

@Rosemary ….Well said!!!…..gays are BFFL …best friends for life!

Caswell you should not be speaking on things you have no knowledge of. Have you any friends who are gay? If not you need to get to know a few and you will realize they are human like you and me and they were born of heterosexual parents.

New York and some of the Anglican churches there have accepted this nastiness, causing a further split in that church. It is probably knocking at our doors right now.

The plan is to destroy the family unit as we know it, so all hell can break loose.

There is a spiritual drive behind the levels of homosexuality we are witnessing, and until we realise this, then there is little hope.

Should same sex unions be legalized?

In a word, yes. Well, that’s cleared that up then. Next.

All of you who have a problem with my spirituality, soory but that is your problem not mine. I was raised in a christian home with christian parents and chrisyian siblings, we learned to fear/respect God the Bible. No matter what anyone might say, I’m too grounded in the faith to be moved by anyone, therefore there is NO WAY I will accept same sex relationships within any church or christian group. Given I know persons who are that way and if I have to deal with them I do, but they are responsible for their own livestyle but when you want to associate yourself with me, that is a NO NO NO NO>. If this barbados government whether B, or D accept this and the churches go along with it, I’ll worship at home/

What I found interesting about the “gay” responses to Caswell’s piece was the burst of emotionalism and the lack of intellectual thoughtfulness, which I am well aware that that group is capable of. It is a fact that if society only is only structured along the gay and lesbian philosophy it shall die. Even if all humans are “bad” any how. Much of the call from the gay and lesbian “quarters” have gone beyond the protection of their “partners”, something that a simple will should address, to calls that history be now written to show the achievements of gays and lesbians; it is law in California.

If children will be gay or lesbian anyhow, why must there be specific gay and lesbian “teachers” to guide them through the throes of early education? Why do this group find it with a willful spite to “out out” the hidden bisexuals, especially in Barbados. And we have them hidden deep, even in our Parliament. If that life is so grand and satisfying, why do they feel the need to marry and be given in marriage and be “respected” by the society as normal. You are living the “good life” any how.

Most of the responses here and else where indicate some deep need and hope the these people or detractors are not right and there will be a price to pay. For all of you gay and lesbian, you now control the media (Peter Wickham), Parliament (Mia Mottley); these are the chief cooks and bottle washers. Push to pass what you may, but remember there is a silent majority.

@David. I am not making it a Bajan thing – perish the thought. The same debate goes on around the world. What I am saying is that I have read it so many times and responded to it so many times on BU that I will almost certainly repeat myself. So why bother. My feelings are well documented here already.

By the way, I was going to reply to the report on the drag show with a reasonably errudite history of the theatre (which other writers preempted me on) while at the same time stating that I REALLY don’t like drag shows and at my age refuse to be dragged (pun intended) to one of them. However, for those that enjoy them, it is up to them and I have no problem with them – just lef me out. My taste, my choice.

Frankly, I find anyone who advertises and flaunts their sexual preferences (whether homo or hetero) as distressing as those who advocate that they have no right to those sexual preferences. In other words, keep it in the bedroom and for those not involved, don’t get involved. As for the thought of trying to make homosexuals into second class citizens, not good. Not good at all.

@Rosemary. Agreed. The divorce satistics for same-sex marriages is FAR lower than for their hetero counterparts. My computer is acting up and a good thing I re-read this before sending it, or the o would have been left out of counterparts and that would not have been an intentional pun.

@Home
Well said. I do not believe that homosexuals should be asking or pushing to be married in a Church. If the want a union then they should be able to go to a Magistrate or whoever to get it. Eventually Barbados will be pressured to allow same sex unions, and to legalize homosexuality, its just a matter of time.

Quite frankly I have no problem with same sex relationshipsmarriages because they don’t impact on me one way or the next. I will withhold any moral view I have of such relationships. It is up to God, the church, and the individuals involved.
I think the situation gets a little more complex when children become part of that unionfamily, either by adoption or thru a surrogate mother.

@Anon
So homosexuality is destroying the family unit eh? So what about incest and child abuse that are so widespread in this society? And what about the husband who has several girlfriends who deosn’t even realise that his wife is doing the same thing with her boyfriends? After all isn’t this behaviour applauded among some mens’ peers? My feeling is that many Bajan men despise gays because they are afraid of their own sexuality. After all, isn’t a man who has several women just trying to prove to himself that he is straight?

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@jack sprat

What is your view about the tension in the USA where legislation to support same sex unions at State level currently conflicts with Federal?

rupture and bleed more easily in the vagina

That should have state rupture and bleed more easily in the anus

Where is Tina Roach ? How come we caan find you when we want you?

To those who ‘sneer’ and ‘scoff’ at God’s Word, the Bible, from which we ALL get what is right or wrong before Almighty God, whose prophetic declarations have NEVER once failed to come to past, throughout history, which IS* the logically consistent, and empirically adequate PROOF* of HIM* and His WORD* in human affairs!

Our Creator, Almighty God, did NOT create Adam and Steve, He created ADAM* man, and EVE* women.

His Word in both the Old and New Testaments, severely condemns HOMOSEXUAL activity, we all know the various passages dealing with it.

But, let us for the sake of argument, as those LEFTISTS* In America, Europe, other countries, the Caribbean and right here in B’dos, contend it is the human rights* of ALL people, that IF, two men, or two women want a UNION, together, that the State should by law, allow them the same priviledges as Heterosexual marriages, after all, who are WE to judge anyone re their so-called sexual orientation, live and let live!!!

Putting the Bible aside, for the sake of the LEFTISTS* argument, let us see what Historians and other academics, discovered in their deep and intense research, regarding ANCIENT civilizations, that deviated FROM the path of monogamous unions, one man, and one woman in, what was the unltimate cause* historically, from the evidence of these secular academics, NOT Christians!!!

THE END-OF-CIVILIZATION QUESTION: Does embracing homosexuality really cause socities to fail? Bu Brian Fitzpatrick Copyright 2010 WorldNetDaily.

“Most socities throught history, even the wealthiest and mightest, have eventually collapsed and died. Why?”

“Why don’t they just continue to evolve and florish as their knowledge and technology grow? What allows some cultures to continually bloom, and others wither?”

“The question- normally one of mere historical and academic concern- is increasingly relevant to millions of Americans as they behold their beloved nation struggling in the grip of unprecedented financial, political, cultural and moral conflict. Indded, many are warning that America is not immune to the forces and influcences that have CAUSED other great empires to self-destruct.”

“In particular, traditional- minded voices point to America’s rapid growth of homosexuality – not only its prevalence, but its virtual CELEBRATION – as eerily reminiscent of Sodom and Gomorrah, the ancient cities whose destruction due to rampant immorality is described in the Old Testament of the Bible.”

“From the time of this nation’s founding all the way up until the current era mainstream Americans held the Bible to be their ultimate guidebook, and the ‘Judeo-Christian values” it espoused as their highest principles.”

“Today, however, especially throughout the elite realm of academia, science, government and the news and entertainment media- the Bible no longer retains the stature and universial credibility it once did. In its place, we listen to sociologists, scientists and other research ‘experts.’

‘But what if the finding of ‘experts’ not necessarily those in thrall to irrational socialistic and atheistic philosophies, but those more in sync with the basic values that founded America and Western Civilization as a whole – lined up perfectly with those of the Bible?”

“Such would present a powerful message – warning- to the current generation of Americans, particularly regarding the dangers of sexual anarchy and homosexuality.”

“In the traditional Christian view, the Apostle Paul warns that socities perish when they depart from devotion and obedience to God. The further they turn away from God, he writes, the more vile their sins become. Eventually they become so wicked that God judges them and they are destroyed.”

Sin, if not dealt with, ALWAYS becomes more and more grevious, especially when its ‘sexual’ immorality’ this is a fact of history, and all ancient civilizations, came CRASHING down, in utter ruination, BECAUSE of the sexual depravity that became rampant.

“depending on the readers worldview, the preceding resonates either as strongly worded truth, or as ancient fairy tale. But religious skeptics might be surprised to discover that the findings of the greatest researchers of cultural decline are strikingly similat to Paul’s.”

‘Sex and Culture’

|Perhaps the difinitive work on the rise and fall of civilizations was published in 1934 by Oxford anthropologist J.D. Unwin. In ‘Sex and Culture,’ Unwin studied 86 human civilizations ranging from tiny South Sea island principalities to might Rome. He found that a society’s destiny is linked inseparably to the limits it imposes on sexual expression and that those sexual constraints correlate directly to its theological sophistication and religious commitments.”

“In particular, cultures that adot what Unwin dubbed “absolute monogamy” proved to be the most vigorous, economically productive, artistically creative, scientifically innovative and geographically expansive socities on earth.”

“Unwin’s contemporay, British historian Arnold Toynbee, was much more explicit about the centrality of religion in history. Toynbee’s masterpiece, his 12 volume-study “Study of History,” charted the rise and fall of 26 civilizations. In Toynbee’s view, “The course of human history consists of a series of encounters…in which each man or woman or child…is challenged by God to make the free choice between doing God’s Will and refusing to do it.”

The bottom line, (no pun intended) from historical research, is replete with facts and evidence, that whenever any ancient society, turns away from God’s righteous moral standards, especially has it relates to CORE values of the traditional family unit, of Father and Mother, and diviates into all kinds of abased sexual immorality, IT WILL BRING destruction from God, one way or the other, and come to runiation.

In today’s modern world, a new value system is sought to be IMPOSED on the traditional moral code, under the guise of ‘human rights’ a LIE, as its is really, a ‘value free’ ‘value neutral’ system of ANYTHING GOES, |

didn’t the Bible say if a man lie with a man, ita an abomination or was that Peter Ram?

“When I was a boy we raised animals: pigs, cows and sheep. Also, most people in my village had animals and I do not recall any of the animals having sex with other animals of the same gender.”

Yuh lie Caswell, I have dogs and I got females humping females, humping males from the front, males humping males, and one humping a basket ball. If dat ent diversity ah doan know what dat is!

Lets build an ISland off the West Coast, God knows it would fit in, and let all of the deviants go there and have their own private commune where anything goes. Man on man, woman or woman, man on animal, animal on woman and anything else that these freaks like.

Islandgal246

I told you that we raised pigs, cows and sheep not dogs. I would therefore have to take you at your word, but let me ask you did they achieve penetration. I don’t think so: the basketball would burst. You only have sex if you achieve penetration however slight.

Islandgal246

I understand that some men opt to be gay because, like the basket ball, they only get soft.

Quoting anon at 6:51 a.m. “The plan is to destroy the family unit as we know it”

What family unit? The same family units where half the heterosexual fathers are absent?

The same family units where siblings kill each other (sometimes literally for family land?

The same family units where heterosexual couples routinely horn each other?

Don’t make me laugh

Quoting Jfor Jerome “some women use their reproductive capacity as a tool to get money out of men.”

Dear Jfor Jerome most men are so blasted cheap that even if a women tried to make money out of reproducing children for you all cheap Bajan men there is no way she could succeed.

I gone.

Quoting Sxout “and the churches go along with it, I’ll worship at home/”

No, no, no, Scoutie man. Ya can’t worship at home.

Ya have to be like that Jesus, mixing up with all kinda dishonest tax collectors, whores, adulterers, and women with waaaaay too many husbands.

If you are to follow the master ya can’t worship at home.

Ya got to get out there and mixup with the sinners.

Quoting Buddy Brathwaite “they have to underground deviant behaviour therapy first for 6 months. The GOB could send them to the mental ?

Buddy Brathwaite today thepolice arrested 20 suspected drug traffickers and it caused a back up of sick people at the hospital. If we should decide to put the 7000 Barbadian homosexuals in the mental for 6 months, then where will we put the true true mad people?

Just asking ya know.

Tek ya time answering.