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Doing a good Job-yes
obviously better is the step above good !Please continue the good work
but please ban island gal 246 for me
she calls me names
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mix with all the political rhetoric there is alwys fun and laughter even when we vehemently disagree the BU household let it slides off their backs. . confrontation is not always meant to tbe confrontational , However at times when we disagree .There are those times when we say “I am sorry” Keep up the goodwork. A voice for all who have something to say even if we don’t always understand what have been said .
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I take my hat off to all who makes Barbados Underground what it is. And what they believe in. I would say that you are doing **AN EXCELLENT JOB** many you continue to do what you do for many more years to come. Your information has brought me back to Barbados many times in knowing what’s happening on the **ROCK** May you continue to be Blessed and Highly Favored BU FAMILY;
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BU is going a great job.
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BU is the best political, funny and informational blog in Barbados and perhaps the subregion.
I started posting here about a year or so ago and was quite critical of what I considered to be an agenda that seemed to cater to stories that would potentially garner high numbers of metropolitan hits, showed little patriotism for Barbados and attacked a few hard working civil servants without proper reason or factual basis for doing so. That type of article has decreased significantly and the indefatigable David oversees a blog that produces a plethora of information on almost every topic imaginable.
I enjoy, am enlightened by and try not to miss the postings of the old as well as the recent regulars like bonny pepper, bushtea, Micro mock engineer, island gal 240, caswell franklyn, blackett, ac, yardbroom, bafbpf, anthony, hants, gp and several others who don’t come to mind at present. I also read the postings of ccc, christopher Halsall and a few others, searching for their gems of wisdom which have so far been few and far between.
David, keep up the good work. You have provided a vehicle that is educational, addictive and relaxing and I for one will continue visiting and putting in my 2-cents worth, when stimulated by the various offerings to do so.
I heard Simmons and others on the call in programme today and while I can understand a minor subset of their concerns as related to some of the other blogs, I suspect that they don’t spend a lot a time on BU and have not sampled the diversity of the information and entertainment provided here on a daily basis.
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@ checkit-out who wrote ,
“I heard Simmons and others on the call in programme today and while I can understand a minor subset of their concerns as related to some of the other blogs”.Any Bajan should understand that a blog is like a group of fellas in a Rum Shop, at a cricket match, in a fish market, under de tambrun tree, at Polo or Paragon.
It is actually a combination of all of the above except we type on a keyboard and we can screen capture discussions if we choose to.I have heard more libelous vulgar comments in the above places (Polo excepted as I have vowed never to attend) than on this blog.
We Bajans have always argued about politics and talk shhhh when we congregate so blogging is a natural modern day adaptation.
Mainstream journalist should not be concerned about blogs.
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Lack of control over subversive elements! I always look forward to the posts of ‘The Man Without A Name’ and Bimbro!
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Yes. Apparently Barbados is a little island in the Caribbean and is full up of high brow academics who love to call each other names. BU possie mash up the BFP possie all day any day
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… in a Rub A Dub Style
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It would be useful for those who voted no and can do better to comment. It would help in the evaluation effort.
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@checkit-out
Listened to some of the program yesterday. It is unfortunate Carl Moore, Peter Simmons et al are asking for censorship of blogs in Barbados.
It is also unfortunate that they see blogs competing with traditional media. Not so!
Blogs have a role to play as citizen journalists use technology to interact with news.
Anonymous blogging has been around for awhile and there are a plethora of reasons why some bloggers elect to go this route.
The irony is the more they criticise social media the more it grows, the more momentum it gathers. They should analyse why.
What do they say about what abhorring a vacuum?
They speak about the profession yet they have no declared standards for the profession in Barbados, the Barbados Association of Journalists is a joke association.
Last president Emanuel Joseph got his 1 year of fame which climaxed with an interview on TV but what else has he achieved?
It is now the turn of Jewel Forde of CBC.
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David, please be fair and accurate. Far from suggesting that the blogs are competing with mainstream media, I said yesterday you are a welcome extension. You can go where the others can’t go. Don’t abuse the opportunity.
All I ask is that you deal with the issues and resist the temptation to be nasty. There is no need for it.
You’re right; I did reluctantly recommend censorship. If I had my way I would shut you down—and sue you—until you get your act together and start behaving like decent, responsible citizens of this country which you say you love.
That’s my position: Nothing more, nothing less.
More power to you.
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@Carl
Sorry if BU was not accurate about the statement you made on the show yesterday. Unfortunately BU was not in a position to monitor the show in its entirety.
BU is an open forum and you are correct, it attracts the good, bad and ugly. The leveller though is that unsubstantiated positions are usually very easily debunked.
There is the opportunity therefore for BU readers to get to the bottom of the issues.
BU respects the position you take vis a vis journalism because the fourth estate is critical to facilitating a working democracy.
Unfortunately the position you take when juxtaposed to what is practised in Barbados as journalism shows a big disconnect.
BU is always receptive to feedback, the Bajan blogosphere is about 5-6 years old and continues to be a work in progress.
Be sure that ‘the blogs’ are not going anywhere soon.
In fact the analogy can be used that like the shooting down of bin Laden, be sure some other person will carry on his fight.
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What I found interesting on the programme is the mention of the fact that some mainstream media journalists have suffered as a result of some reporting they might have done. Yet within the same breath they are calling for the anonymity on blogs to be prevented.
The laws of Barbados seems to have the mainstream media in the dumps, and they can’t even organise themselves, but they want the same for others.
Shameful. If anyone should be behind the blogs it should be those who have tried to be “fair and accurate” in their reporting and yet somehow came out holding the shi*** end of the stick.
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I read the blog to get some idea on what is happening on the ground in Barbados. Sometimes I find though that the comments are way out of line and nasty to persons who are unable to respond. Additionally, I respect those bloggers who have the courage to use their real names because I ain’t using mine and usually there are the ones that make the most sense.
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Kudos to BU.
BU is a welcome voice of the voiceless in this country, where many things are hidden, and corruption becomes the norm for people in high places. With the voice of BU on their trail it becomes more difficult for them to execute their acts.The mainstream media has failed the people in not reporting or investigating many stories. The mainstream journalism has become like many fashion magazines, you see the fluff and nothing more, they have become nursery rhyme writers.
Were it not for BU many things would go unnoticed. Yes there are some who would seek to use the medium to denigrate others but that is a given in any human interaction, but those individuals quickly left on the wayside.
WELL DONE! CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK so that we can keep this nation of ours a desired place to live and to work.
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David | May 4, 2011 at 4:36 AM |
“… the Barbados Association of Journalists is a joke association.”A joke that you can’t even laff.
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correction:
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Carl Moore wrote “You’re right; I did reluctantly recommend censorship. If I had my way I would shut you down—and sue you—until you get your act together and start behaving like decent, responsible citizens of this country which you say you love.”
Watch yuh back David.lol
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David | May 4, 2011 at 4:25 AM |
It would be useful for those who voted no and can do better to comment. It would help in the evaluation effort.******************
I did exactly that – but then I’m English!
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The question is, are you going to take any notice!!
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Wunna don’t realize that many people still want the population to believe the lies that are told by the so called media houses that are politically affiliated. This country is only a democracy when it comes to elections, where one man one vote is allowed. Even the dead does sometimes have a vote too.
Carl Moore you are are a coward and a big one too. You are afraid of the truth and cannot tolerate anyone whose opinion differs from yours . It takes many types to make up this world and Barbados is no exception. It seems that your way is to muzzle the man on the street because he is a nobody and his voice should never be heard.
I have enjoyed the BU family with the good the bad and the ugly. I have to face this every day when I interact with the public, and if that offends you Carl I am sorry. I have learnt to ignore those that are an irritant and enjoy those who makes sense to me. I have learnt to filter what I find interesting and discard what I find to be nonsense.
Kudos to BU and may you continue the good work. BU has provided many with many thought provoking posts, too many sermons by TB, but at least he took a sabbatical the last two month and spared us.
BU has been and will continue to be the voice of the man on the street, the student, the farmer, the unions, the businessman, the hoteliers, the housewife, the expats, the wannabe politicians, the has been politicians, the present politicians and the retired civil servants.
Now Tina Cockroach if you want me banned you will have to go first because cockroaches are like vermin. Stop spreading your germs. Perhaps you prefer some Sevin instead of Baygon.
What is BU without laughter? We have characters here that are unique, Bonny peppa, Scoutie, Bush tea, Haunts (pun intended), RT (tek dat yuh ole cow), Mwifnosense( tek dat too) Dr Georgie, tecchie, yardbroom, Chris Halsall, Amused, AC(whatevva dat stan fuh), hard head Carson Cadogan, Charles Cadogan (Carson’s outside cousin), check it out, Zack, The dragon call George, Benwood dickie and many more dat muh brain cahn name.
PS….thank you check it out for de mention.
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Whahappen to my post – steupse!! What I meant to say was:
Furthermore, r u going to do anything about the Fifth Column members here, intent on sabotaging the respectable underbelly of Bim, and cast her in a nasty, Islamist light!
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I was here from the beginning (doh leh de name fool wunna) and I am one of those persons that voted “Can do better” because I seem to remember BU being better.
In early times BU dealt with topics that were relevant to the average man in the street. Today it has been infiltrated by the intellectuals who, while claiming to raise the level of debate, care little about keeping the powers that be accountable to the masses. They could not care less about educating or advancing the cause of ordinary Bajans and only come to BU because it is now seen as the dominant blog in Barbados.
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Kracker said “Today it has been infiltrated by the intellectuals”
and pray tell me Krackers, who are these intellectuals? I cahn tink suh high up so I wud like tah know whom dem is, suh ah cahn learn someting from dem.
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islandgal,
Dem people doan hide, so yuh caan miss dem if yuh try.
Some likes tuh use nuff big words and always quick to let people know dat dem read dis body or de nex and suggest dat yuh in nuhbody ef yuh neva heard of whatzhitizthizky.
Another set duz submit post wif headings dat duz mek yuh wonder ef yuh mudda din waste she money sennin you to school.
Den de got de ones dat duz post some long long long post dat by de time yuh get tuh de end, if yuh duz decide to read um, yuh caan even rememba wuh wuz in de fust paragraph.
BU previously had intellectuals that tried to inform and educate. I am not so sure that the same obtains today.
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@ Kracker……..yuh got muh Kracking up LOLLLLL I know bout de ones dat so long dat yuh forget how it started. I does scroll down real fast whenever I see certain peoples posts. TB and Zoe are two I does run from. LOL
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@ David
A simple question, what constitutes censorship, as called for by some here? Is that code for BU to conform and exactly is expected to be the censor?
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BU
I see the BU blog as a good medium for persons to express themselves, and I do like engaging bloggers with varying ideas than mine. However, to me there is too much abusive language and this needs to be watched, right now it has not yet gotten out of hand but if goes un-noticed can easily escalate. Keep up the good work and monitor those slanderous bloggers who can cause problems for the BU -
Carl Moore if you don’t like freedom of speech you can always move to the Soviet Union they allow plenty censorship there. What mitigating gall you have. Talking about censoring people right to free speech . Hail Carl Moore the Tin horn dictator! Censorship my foot!
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@Rose Art
You have asked a good question.
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Freedom of speech does not permit one to untruthfully holler “FIRE” in a crowded theater!
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@Carl Moore: “I did reluctantly recommend censorship. If I had my way I would shut you down—and sue you—until you get your act together and start behaving like decent, responsible citizens of this country which you say you love.
Carl… As the intelligent man you are, you must surely see that the traditional Fourth Estate here in Barbados is not serving the people of Barbados the way it could.
No hard questions are asked. No investigative reporting seems to be done. The papers here seem to be simply filled with regurgitation of what the reporters are told (sometimes inaccurately; often with innumerable grammatical and spelling mistakes). No media house seems to be willing to risk being sued.
The Fourth Estate here in Bim seems to be solely interested in how much advertising dollars can be generated.
Might this be because most media here in Barbados is owned by non-Barbados interests?
Nature abhors a vacuum. And so the Blogs have manifested, to fill the roll which should be satisfied by the traditional Forth Estate. But which is, empirically, not being satisfied.
Carl Moore et al… IMHO, you and yours had better be prepared to deal with this reality, because the Blogs, and social media, are not going away.
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islandgal 246
please stop calling me names
i aint do you nuttinDavid, please tell her to stop calling me names
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For those who missed the talk show where Peter Simmons and others called for censorship of the blogs you can have a lesson and form your own opinion. The program was interesting indeed from the perspective that we had journalists and cohorts defending the journalism profession by definition but ignoring what is in Barbados.
Brasstacks Talk Show
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Mawnin evva body, sorry, nite-nite evva body. yawnnnnnnnnn
LONG LIVE BU. enuff said.
Carl Moore you is a rale stuk-up piecea pupp. go ease ya bowels. ya kissmeass klown.
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@ David re Carl Moore…
“Unfortunately the position you take when juxtaposed to what is practised in Barbados as journalism shows a big disconnect.”
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Wait David you starting to smoke something or what?!!
What is all this pretty talk?
You frighten to tell Carl Moore to ‘f’ – off? Carl is just a slightly less irritating pest than Peter Wickham. …. and their primary objective is ‘attention getting.’The Bushman recalls Carl Moore decades ago ranting and raving in the newspaper about letters to the editor being allowed with ‘nom de plumes’. He seems to have an obsession with WHO is saying what, …rather than focusing on WHAT is being said.
The bushman said many times before and continue to maintain, that the blogs (AND BU in particular,) have been the best step towards transparency and freedom of information that could possible be taken in Barbados.
What Carl Moore what??!
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@Bonny.
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David thanks for posting the Brasstacks show. I respectfully decline the invitation to listen.
It would just make me more angry than I am already.
BU will live on in spite of those multiple expletives.
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@Jack SPratt!
The key phrase is “crowded theatre! Hollering “Fire”is permissable if the act does not involve harm or danger to lives. Case and point if my neighbour’s house is on fire . The fact that my neighbour life my be in danger would permit me that right to holler “Fire” to access help!
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Quoting Cinnamon | May 4, 2011 at 7:59 AM “I read the blog to get some idea on what is happening on the ground in Barbados. Sometimes I find though that the comments are way out of line and nasty to persons who are unable to respond.”
Who are these people who are unable to respond? Are they dead? If they are dead neither BU nor its contributors can libel them?
I someone feels that they have been “nastied” on BU they are free to respond. All it takes is a computer and an internet connection, and I believe that more than 80% of Bajan households have such things. And for those without internet at home (or the office) there are always internet cafes
And if the offended do not want to use their own names they can always use a nickname as most people on BU do.
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Quoting Carl Moore ” I did reluctantly recommend censorship”
Question 1: Who will be the censor(s)
Question 2: Who will appoint the censors?Tek’ ya time answering
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Apart from Mr. Halsall and Ms. Roach not one of you—for the entire day—has had the courage to identify yourself. I dare you to come out from behind the safety of your silly anonymity and let’s slug it out with words and ideas.
islandgal246, you’re not good at disguise: you write the same way you speak.
I’ve stayed away from these blogs for the past three years. Sadly, during that time nothing has changed—still the same wufless language and name-calling. Don’t you improve?
I’ll give you three more years. When I return, let me see some improvement. Please. In the name of the young people of Barbados.
Bye again.
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Quoting Carl Moore “If I had my way I would shut you down—and sue you”
And if you had your way (and most fortunately you do not) how would your lawsuits against the blogs help anybody except the already lawsuit-happy Bajans (especially the political class) who keep the mainstream media in subjection?
Or is that your intention?
Tek’ ya time answering.
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Dear David:
I think that many of the old guard (not Carl Moore of course) are angry because they have no control over the new media.
They are angry because lawsuits from their old guard lawfirms cannot silence you or bankrupt you.
Oh how they wish that just a threat of a lawsuit could silence you, and as an added bonus could put some of your hard earned money in their fat foreign bank accounts (not Carl Moore of course)
And of course some of the old guard never learned how to use a typwriter (that’s what secretaries were for) and that they have never learned how to use a computer and are ignorant about how to use new media.
Some of it is just envy David, plain and simple.
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Dear Carl:
If you feel so strongly about shielding the young people from “wufless language and name-calling” why don’t you start a blog. A nice decent place where young people can blog safe from bad words and gossip.
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@ Carl Moore
A persons has a right to privacy and that does included withholding personnel information ref NAME. A person does nohave to divulge such information in any public domain . BU is not the Court of Law. Your Challenge for a person to divulge personnel information is reckless just like your need for censorship .Just in case you forget we live in a democracy ! -
David. Your popularity is shown with the responses to each discussion. When a blog can attract over 50 replies regarding to the stories, that shows that people are reading and responding. This is four years blogging with you from my early days as………………..you know who? Congrats David and keep focusing.
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@Carl Moore
Do you know that you can go to the CNN or UK Guardian blogsites and blog under any name you want?
There is no way for you to determine if a person enters Carl as their name you would be able to verify who it is and these are reputable websites in your book no doubt?
How do you know Tim Roach is a real person? Do you see how flimsy your position is?
It seems your issue should be with the BU blogmaster and not the commenters.
Instead of engaging BU on the arguments you run away?
Typical of what is happening all around us in society, defend your position, like a man.
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LOL! Trust Bonny to tell it like it is!! LOL!
Morning sexy Bonny!!
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