What I next for Mia?

@Facts
UH know i can’t understand your reasoning . I meaning in a mans world that attitude you are talking about is quite acceptable. Look how the Cowboy Five threw out Mottley speaking about “UP in Your Face.” nothing more blatant than that. Mia is smart and brilliant to boot and whatever so called attitude you see in her is very prevalent in men. I maintain she would make a better leader than MR Corrupt Himself the one and only OWEN ARTHUR.. Stupseeeeeeeeeeeeee!

@Anonymous Numero Uno wrote
“How are these internal BLP matters ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS?”

It is my business because I am a Bajan and I own property in Barbados.
What happens in either political party matters to me.

Corruption is everbody’s business and to her credit, it is now clear that Mia Mottley will not be part of any cover-up of corruption within the BLP.

The same cannot be said for the Owen Arthur power-hungry faction of the divided BLP.

Day one (1) of the Conference belongs to Mia Mottley and her team which, it would appear – wants to stamp-out the corruption PM Thompson uncovered at Haggatt Hall.

I heard that last night Mia Mottley and her team remained as a unit, in the back of the room.

Today was day two of the Conference and judging from CBC Evening news, the main event was again Mia Mottley who walk away from power and said “NO” to corruption.

No doubt tomorrow or day three will also belong to Mia Mottley.

Owen Arthur will have to state his position on corruption and explain why he put those campaign funds into his personal bank account.

He will have to state why he undermined and ousted Mia Mottley from office when he did not attend Parliament for the 2 years she kept the party going.

He will also have to come with a speech which outlined a new vision and not warm over cold soup, expecially after he has stated publicly that the country is facing the worst economic crisis ever.

I agree that what he delivers tomorrow has to be better than what Mia Mottley unveiled at the BCCI luncheon recently because she has certainly raised the bar.

THE QUESTION IS – HOW IS OWEN ARTHUR GOING TO ADDRESS THE CORRUPTION WIHTIN AND AMONG HIS POWER-HUNGRY FACTION OF THE DIVIDED BLP, GIVEN THE EVIDENCE OF ELECTORAL FRAUD NOW IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.

Not only is Owen Arthur presiding over a party he has succeeded in diving but, according to the electorate – he is presiding over a faction of the BLP that does not respect women and is corrupt.

TOMORROW WE WILL SEE IF OWEN ARTHUR COVERS UP THE CORRUPTION (internal electoral fraud) OR FOLLOW MIA MOTTLEY’S LEAD AND TAKES ACTION TO STAMP IT OUT…

@Ocean Barber,
Are you Georgie Porgie, reincarnated?

Man, that venom spouted above sure feels like his.

@Anonymous Uno

O.K. Just be careful with dem way you have with words . We woman don’t take easily to being abuse verablly or physical. Alls well that ends welll! Now you can press the erection button!

@ qc

Wunna contact de Bushman about de bush bath at de 4 cross as yet? 🙂

@”Multi -titled One” | November 13, 2010 at 7:38 PM | “Anonymous Numero Uno,

You mentioned about the cleric who is the muti-titled One (ha, ha, ha).
Do you know where he “earned” his doctoral degree?
He calls himself (and allows it to be mentioned freely) “doctor”

As a public figure, I’m sure the goodly reverend, apostle, bishop, prophet and doctor could easily let us know.”

Listen Multi-Titled, you miss out one uh de man handles. You left out SENATOR. You got any idea how he got that one!

@Barbar
Hell yes! nobody stop wunna from launching yuh vicious attacks against the living and the dead. Why ifr that question was so important to the BLP .They could have asked the Late PM. Oh! BTW The Leader of the BLP has got of answering to do and he is still presently alive and he ain’t about to revealed any of his backroom deals to nobody. Now yuh asking me to speak on behalf of the Late PM. I only speak to what I know of him just like others do.

An interesting offshoot to the discussion is to assess public opinion to what is unfolding in the BLP. The DLP’s time will also come when a reasonable time has passed after Thompson’s death.

What the incident with the campaign donation to the BLP/Arthur exposes is the need for campaign reform. The anti prevention act on the table should address this matter.

Read page 2 of the Advocate. Mia has spoken.

@ Prodigal Son | November 13, 2010 at 11:43 PM |

Yours post above is foolishness. I will deal with Clico in my next post.

What is happenning in the BLP now is corruption, electoral fraud, election rigging and many would add – organised crime (electoral fraud) Such organised crime has never happened within the DLP. In fact it would be fair to say that the DLP is far more democratic than the BLP.

This is serious since Grantley Adams gave the right to vote (one man one vote) This is the point Adrian Hinds has been making for sometime now.

Mia Mottley yesterday demonstrated that she wants no part of the cover-up of electoral fraud within the BLP. She has demonstrated that she is not power hungry. Reminds me of Julius Caesar – thrice the crown was passed to him and on each occasion he pushed it aside.

Seems like unlike the Owen Arthur and his power-hungry gang of 5, Mia Mottley and her 3 role-model colleagues – just want to stamp-out the corruption.

Judging from what is coming out of the BLP, the most respected and honest people like: Sir Henry Forde, Sir Richard Cheltenham, Dame Billie Miller and so on – are standing with Mia Mottley.

I am sure that if the Rt. Excellent Grantley Adams, Tom Adams and Bree St. John were alive – they too would be standing on Mia Mottley’s side as well.

They, like Mia Mottley would want to stamp-out the corruption within the BLP (the same corruption Mr. Thompson exposed at Haggatt Hall.

Here is something else.

It starts with election rigging then if the Power-Hungry Gang of 5 were to win (under the guise that they have a magic wand solution to the economy) they will impose themselves on the people of Barbados for life by carefully re-aligning electoral boundaries.

Barbadians have been warned. The plan is to win and so re-align electoral boundaries so that the DLP never ever wins again.

Study it!!!

The corruption surrounding the Owen Arthur power-hungry faction of the divided BLP, is only now getting started. But Barbadians must say: “ENOUGH” but voting for the DLP which might be inexperienced but HONEST.

Study it!!!

By Wade Gibbons | Sun, November 14, 2010 – 12:08 AM

“ABOUT A MONTH after losing political leadership of the Barbados Labour Party [BLP] to Owen Arthur, Mia Mottley yesterday made a dramatic last-minute withdrawal of a much hyped challenge to incumbent chairman George Payne who was returned unopposed.

But Mottley appeared to win the hearts of party supporters when she was boisterously hailed following her announcement that she would not take part in a tainted election process against the St Andrew MP.

In the charged atmosphere of the Deighton Griffith Secondary School on the second day of the BLP’s 72nd annual conference, Mottley described the election as a “side show” and withdrew her nomination. St Thomas MP Cynthia Forde later followed suit and surrendered her position as general secretary to St Lucy candidate Peter Phillips.

Mottley said the conference should not be remembered because of Payne, new Leader of the Opposition Owen Arthur, or herself, but should be regarded as the moment in time when the BLP’s membership said the legacy of Sir Grantley Adams should be honoured and democracy restored.

Before an audience from which Arthur was conspicuously absent, Mottley noted Section 36 [a] of the party’s constitution said that only one of every ten branch members should be allowed to vote as a delegate.

But, she added that the time had come when every member of the party should have the right to vote, whether for chairman, general secretary or any other position.

Mottley revealed several instances of irregularities which had occurred over the past months within the party.

She said St James North MP Rawle Eastmond had written a letter of complaint to her when she was Opposition Leader, as well as to Payne, about the dubious selection of delegates in his constituency.

Mottley added that 15 minutes before the start of yesterday’s session, she was given a list of all the delegates who would be voting.

“This is unacceptable,” she said, adding she had been informed that the BLP’s secretariat had been given instructions that neither her nor Forde should be given copies of the delegates’ lists.

The St Michael North East MP added: “I made calls at 11:30 a.m. yesterday, 3:30 p.m. yesterday, and seven o’clock last night.

“I have faced five general elections in this country. I have been general secretary of this party for nine years uncontested and I have never faced an election without knowing who are the people entitled to vote and I will not do so today.”

Mottley said a letter was written to Arthur, Payne and Forde on October 18 by the members of the executive of the BLP’s Women League requesting a meeting of the executive to choose delegates for the conference.

“That request was denied but yet a list of 210 delegates for the Women’s League was produced,” she said.

Mottley said one woman on the Women’s League delegates list wrote the party on the same day and complained that she was not a BLP member and had never joined the party.

The woman indicated that not only was her name on the list, but those of her family as well. She said the woman requested that her name be removed.

“To my horror, 15 minutes ago, I checked the list that was presented to me and the lady’s and her family’s names are still on the list,” she noted.

Mottley identified several BLP members and who had been mysteriously omitted from the delegates’ lists, and stressed she did not know “how to become chairman of the Barbados Labour Party even though I believe I would win”, under such circumstances.”

http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/mia-opts-out/

Bajan politics is at its lowest ebb…We badly need some good honest men and women. We need a third party. The BLP has become very ragged and the threads are unraveling rapidly. The DLP is waiting for someone to deliver them. Who might dat be? Oh what tangle webs both parties have woven.

Dear Anonymous Numero Uno,

My sincerest apologies for an omission in an earlier post. I had stated that, “While we are at it, please note the plan for the Conference:- Owen Arthur (St. Peter) Opposition Leader, George Owen Arthur Walton Payne (St. Andrew) for Chairman, Peter Phillips (St. Lucy) for Secretary, Dale Marshall (St. Joseph) GOAWP’s deputy, Kerrie the recycled Senator (St. James Central)……. the NORTHERN ALLIANCE FOR POLITICAL DESTRUCTION (NAPD) is making its move in the BLP.”

I forgot that Douglas Skeete was the treasurer. So, the team really is/projected to be:-
Owen (St. Peter) Political Leader
George (St. Andrew) Chairman
Peter (St. Lucy) Gen. Secretary
Douglas (St. James North …. to be) Treasurer
Dale (St. Joseph) George’s Deputy

I am not, nor have any desire to join a political party, but I use my God-given discernment and observations to read what is taking place among politicians. The intrigue of late in the Opposition Party has truly taken my attention. I do not listen to political gossip, but because of my knowledge, at social level, of some of the persons in both parties, I “read the signs” and interpret them. With the youth, I also discuss their views of what our leaders are projecting in the all spheres of our country’s life. If I am on target, don’t blame me.

Does anyone still want to challenge my older post that a NORTHERN ALLIANCE was in the works?

George and Owen are millionaires. How come that there is a call now being made to members to fund repairs to party headquarters in Roebuck Street? Is there any guarantee that the money will not be highjacked as well?

It seems that a number of posters here think that “Bajan Panday” is another pen name for WIV or HH.

I don’t. The Bajan Panday style of writing, imo, is quite different to WIV’s or HH’s. In addition, WIV or HH does not deal exclusively on one topic ad nauseum.

I think that Bajan Panday is probably what she purports to be, a very disgruntled, and perhaps traumatized, Mia Mottley supporter who is prepared to use a scorched earth strategy to harm the new BLP Opposition Leader and his administration and cares not what effect it might have on the BLP itself.

I wonder what the IP addresses say?

checkit-out
I’ve made that point before, anyone running for the St.John’s safe seat should be one who can come out and assist the other candidates with marginal seats. Neither Stuart nor Sincklar are sure of their seats, so it would be a politican gamble for either of them to vacant their seats and contest the St.John’s seat. For Stuart to do that he would have to call a general elections, while Sincklar is the only one that can contest the seat in a by-election. However, I don’t think Stuart wants Sincklar breathing down his neck so I predict that Stuart would take back Min. of Finance and give back Estwick Econonmic Affairs, what portfolio he would give to Sincklar is unsure but I also predict that it will cause some uneasiness among the party. Of course Kellman, as the most senior M.P among them is also expecting to get a ministry.

It seems like the DLP Bloggers gone silent. They were expecting fireworks at the BLP conference that did not materialized.

Round 2 to Arthur. He is on a path to neutralize Mottley. He will continue to extend the hand to Mottley but if she doesn’t come around he will move on without her.

Mottley also has to be careful that if she continues to be seen as not supporting the leader, when her turn comes (if she still has ambition to lead the party) she will get very little support from the Arthur supporters which continue to be strong. Both Arthur and Mottley will soon have to realize that they need each other since their base in the party is strong so sooner or later they will have to make some accommodation for both to co-exist.

Mottley is smart enough to know that.

PM Stuart is a man I have a lot of respect for. I also think he will be a good PM even better than his former leader.
His best bet is to call a snap election and get a new mandate.
(1) He should shift to the safe St. John seat.
(2) He cannot do what is necessary to bring us out of the economic mess without inflicting some pain through some austerity measures and that cannot be done over the next 2 years prior the a general election and he expects to win. The Austerity should have come long ago when Estwick was saying so before he was muzzled
(3) The sympathy vote still exists so he can capitalize on it.
(4) Arthur knows he cannot win the St. John bye election so he will use the opportunity to put the DLP 3 year tenure on trial and I am afraid he will expose the lack of performance of the Thompson government.

But Stuart, like Sandiford is a man who will think country first. So he will not call the general election.

checkit-out
The problem there with P.M Stuart is that I don’t think he wants Sincklar so close under him. There are some senior party members who are very supportive of Sincklar becoming the next P.M so Stuart has to be wary of him. i think the P.M has more faith in Estwick , as both he and Estwick were strong supporters of Clyde Mascoll, I see stuart putting some breathing space between himself and Sincklar. It is said that had the lifespan of the late P.M was six months more, he would have made Sincklar his Deputy. This is a case of history repeating itself because it is also believed that twenty-four hours more of Errol Barrow the history of Barbados would have been different.

I see there are many bloggers who suggest that it is in the best interest of the country for the status quo to remain as is, i.e.; no snap general elections; Stuart either leaves ministerial portfolios unchanged from the last Thompson reshuffle or make minimal changes; The Minister of Finance introduces minimal, almost painless, measures to combat the fiscal deficit; Stuart continues the CLICO bailout along the same lines that David Thompson started and fashioned in his last Cabinet meeting; Stuart continues as far as possible the entitlement programmes; etc.

I suggest that such a programme would be in the worst interests of Barbados rather than the best, given the current harsh economic environment. Such a programme would carry the stamp of David Thompson and would do very little to get us out of the mess that is most likely the result of relegating urgent corrections to the ECONOMY from the front seat to a back seat, well behind a SOCIETY development thrust that misguidedly focused attention on matters geared to providing entitlements and popular votes through bus fares, constituency councils and the like on borrowed money.

Continuing on the old path is a prescription for disaster for the country and I think for the DLP as well. But that outcome will be the only one possible if Stuart continues to do little about the economy and just follows in David’s footsteps. Seeking to move Sinckler from Finance (as some have hinted) would further exacerbate this problem.

An early general election has also been criticized as being likely to add significantly to the fiscal deficit since elections are very expensive, especially if the last one is used as a model. But do elections really have to be so expensive? With CLICO no longer a big player in the financing of elections, that source for either party, but more especially the Governing party, will be gone and the parties, if a true snap election is called would not have the time to mobilise and engage in the full slate of very expensive trappings to elections that we have seen recently. They may just be relegated to old-time political meetings, house to house canvassing and perhaps getting the word out on the internet and the usual TV spots.

If a snap general election is fought on the basis of getting a new mandate to combat the serious problems in our country that were not to the fore when David Thompson got his mandate and to put new measures in place to save us from retrogressing to the status of a failed economy, I think that it would serve the country better than apparent reliance on an old mandate whose implementation was somewhat flawed over the past 3 years.

David

Arthur has done an excellent job painting Mia into a corner
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You are closer to the ground than I am, but I think that Arthur is more on the defensive than Mia. He has been forced to respond to her accusations re voting irregularities within the Party and after observing the affection and respect she received from her supporters made a “peace offering” by saying the Party needs her. For once the Nation editorial writer got it right when he wrote that Mia will remain Arthur’s albatross.

Meanwhile his chief lieutenant GW Payne in speaking to the press announced that Arthur’s return as leader is a “breath of fresh air”.

My prediction is that at this time Mia will not accept any official role as an opposition critic but she will sit back and watch the gang of five implode as the rigours of opposition politics wear them down. Eventually the Party will turn to her and she will be able to dictate her terms.

Will the political situation be the same when VAT is raised to 17%? Can the government avoid raising VAT without reducing spending?

PM Stuart has some extremely difficult choices to make and I really sympathize with him. However, if the history of inaction by this current Government is any indicator of what they are likely to do in the near future, I would guess that very little will be done. There will be no snap election. Mara will be nominated for and win the St John bye-election; Serious economic medicine will have to be taken by all of us. The BLP will regroup. The General Election 2 years from now will wipe out the DLP.

In all this there could have been a better way. The obvious talent residing in the DLP could have got a new 5 year mandate to do what is necessary to straighten out the economy absent the distractions of looking back at and being tied into David Thompson’s missteps over the past 3 years. In the first 2 years they could likely see a turnaround in the economy and then ensure that at the end of those five years they would be able to fight the BLP, toe to toe and win another mandate.

The BLP cannot carry Barbados forward in the current state of their internal strife and all Barbados knows this. They cannot win a quick snap election.

The DLP can do it but not by looking backwards.