Are All Muslims Terrorists? “A Clash Of Two Civilizations”: How The War For Control Of Planet Earth Rages On In The Media – Who Will Survive Its Devastating Aftermath?
Emerging alignments as predicted by Huntington in 1996. Thicker lines represent more conflictual relationships – Wikipedia
During the middle ages, the Arabs alone were the standard-bearers of a civilisation
Moorish Islamic Quotes
If history has taught us anything โ is mankind cannot live together in any real harmonious union for any prolonged period of time. This was all too evident during the days of Muhammad after the revelations of the Qur’an came to him. He encountered bitter opposition and rejection from his kinsfolk and after the death of Prophet Muhammad in June 632AD, the emerging Rashidun Caliphs worked at the unification of the peoples of Arabia who in turn sparked insurgent military operations against the Byzantine Roman Empire and the Basined Persian Empire as these were crucial to Islamic conquest and further unification.
In the exodus, the Christian Abyssinian (Ethiopian) king called Aแนฃแธฅama ibn Abjar absorbed many refuge Muslims providing them protection during the persecution era where Mecca was a hotbed of murder and mayhem.
As the march of conquest continued – between 1095 and 1291, the Crusades and the Reconquesta was a period of centuries of capture, recapture, militarization and on-going war between two polarized civilizations.
In 1187, Saladin liberated Jerusalem with a classic historically epic battle – while fighting with Richard the Lionheart, the Saracens fought relentlessly as was proved by historical sources. What followed was the establishment of the Ottoman Caliphate; the โConquest of Constantinopleโ by โMuhammad the Conquerorโ.
The clash of civilizations continued apace with further conquest of Eastern Europe and the fall of Greece to the Ottomans. Vienna then fell to โSuleiman the Magnificentโ or as for Muslims โSuleiman the Lawmakerโ.
At the turn of the 17th century, came the โbacklashโ from the Industrial Revolution and the exploitation by colonial empires striking back, resulting in the colonization of large swathes of the Muslim world. And so with the advent of WWI and the end of the Ottoman Empire – the Muslim world was eventually over-run by the colonization of the French, British and Italian governments. The final nail was the establishment of Israel as a Jewish state by the Rothschilds in collaboration with the British Illuminists in 1948.
Subsequent Arab-Israeli wars with most Christian countries aligning with Israel headed by USA, Britain, France, Netherlands and other Anglo-Saxon nations has resulted in an emergent postmodern crisis of confidence where the contemporary politics of the 21st century is being fought through the medium of the media โ and the crossbow of allegiance and polarization is for the hearts and minds of individuals.
But from whence did this postmodern phenomenon emerge and how does American apocalyptic religious right-wing thinking influence its continuum?
The clash of civilizations theory was first posited in the 1990โs in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union by Samuel Huntington, Bernard Lewis & Laurent Murawiec. Huntington et al felt that postmodern geopolitics was about oil resources and who controls it – for if the Arab-Muslims had complete monopolistic autonomy and control, they would eventually be โMasters of the Universeโ with everyone else in subservience.
After 9-11, when the world changed, this theory was ratcheted up by Washington hawks and Israeli-American Zionists who argued that the historical tyranny of Islamization was intent on a โglobal Caliphateโ where Sharia Law, and the emergence of Madhi would occur in our lifetime.
The sociological vituperative speak as well as the esoteric complexity of this phenomenon is being packaged by the visual and print media in the form of propaganda with the hope that there will be enough of a moral [panic] on both sides of the equation that the pressure of internal subsidence and implosion through civil unrest, anarchy or possible war will decimate the Arab-Muslim world resulting in the Jewish-Christian world emerging the victors.
American religious politics continues to be fuelled by a Right-Wing media in partnership with a fundamentalist Jewish-Christian alliance of powerful behind the scenes agitators whose sole justification is the struggle between โGood v Evilโ with its crystallization point in Jerusalem โ the imperial hubris of ancient expropriation.
So in the present aftermath of what we are currently witnessing on the world stage โ what is the truth behind all the smokescreens?
For one, as the world focuses on the United States and the madness of political intrigue in that great country โ the subliminal workings of the Illuminists in most notably, GREAT BRITAIN and EUROPE are being overlooked because there are few who are truly cognizant of the role Europe will play in the endtime global apocalyptic religio-political scenarios that will bring the world to the abyss of WORLD WAR 3.
According to Thierry Meyssan โโthe Muslim-Arab world and Jewish-Christian world concepts are dubious in themselves. Originally, the term โJewish-Christianโ did not refer to all Jews and Christians but, on the contrary, to a reduced group of original Christians who were still Jews, before the separation of the Church from the Synagogue. But, at the end of the 1960โs, that is, after the United States came closer to Israel and the Six Day War, this term assumed a political meaning. It then referred to the NATO bloc, the West, in opposition to the Soviet bloc, known as the Eastโ.
If we are to believe the FOX News pundits and the merchants of political and religious spin โ the United States and Europe will be over-run with mosques; Sharia Law will be the common-law in the land and we will all be forced to stop eating pork, drinking alcohol and see our women forced to wear the infamous โhijabโ.
In the end, the religious politics of Armageddon suggests, โwhere Christโs return will be marked by the triumph of the manifest destiny of the United States and their unilateralist agenda โ also where the only single free nation on earth entrusted by divine Providence to shed the light of progress upon the rest of the world.โ
With this kind of thinking โ surely we are all doomed!!!
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One can meander through the halls of all this intellectual intrigue, cabal, machination, all the while remaining obstinately instransigent, stubbornly ignorant, that no matter how many names, organizations, one may cite, over the course of history, re the Jews and their rightful, ancient homeland, the State of Israel, that Almighty God will USE, whom soever HE chooses, as He has done in the past, to bring about HIS decrees, re His Unconditional Covenant with Abraham and his descendents, and THIS He has done, through wicked, evil men, as He is a respector of NO ONE, in bringing HOME the scattered, dispersed Jews, back to ISRAEL, in May, 1948, and whoever cames against them, no matter how many wicked Jews there are, will feel HIS WRATH, one way or the other. All panning put TODAY, exactly as His Word the Bible prophetically declares.
Islam is a peaceful religion! Really!
Does the so-called god of Islam, Allah, teach such peaceful co-existence with others, regardless of how many of the 1.3 billion Muslims appear to be so? Are they really being true and faithfull to their religious ideology, ISLAM?
The Muslim Genesis.
Let us hear from within Islam itself, from one of their imminent scholars.
“From the beginning, its [Islam’s] spread was accomplished through physical violence, bloodshed and war. Violence not only against non-Muslim infidels, but ALSO against fellow Muslims. Much of Islam’s spread in the world was a result of traders and Sufi missionaries, this is true. Yet the weaponry – scimatars and sabers- all through the art and symbolism of Islam, makes VIOLENCE and WAR a central theme of Islam…Mohammad both taught and practiced VIOLENCE from the beginning.”
(Abdul Houssain Zarin Koub, Imminent Muslim Scholar, was the longtime head of the department of history religion, and philosophy, at the University of Tehran. He also lectured at Columbia University and elsewhere. His book, ‘History of Religion’ has been translated into over 60 languages). emphasis added.
“The governments of the world should know that Islam cannot be defeated. Islam will be victorious in ALL countries of the world, and Islam and the teaching of the Koran will PREVAIL ALL OVER THE WORLD.”
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran, emphasis added.
While the majority of Muslims worldwide are peaceful, the fact remains that the threat from ‘Shariah Islam’ and violent Jihad propagated by a criminal class of Muslims known as the Muslim Brotherhood, or the “Ikhwan mafia” are very secretive organizations that dominate most established Muslims groups and mosques in America, all the while exploiting, manipulating, and even victimizing law-abiding Muslim Americans.
THE POLITICS OF THE FAR-RIGHT* HAS BECOME OBSTREPEROUSLY CLANGING CYMBALS –
SO NOW THE MUSLIMS ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DISINTEGRATIONIST, ASSIMILATIONIST FRAGMENTATION OF WHITE-WASHED MULTICULTURALISM???
The “white-wash” has now become a “Black-Out” and folks are losing their minds…
KARMA* is really a B***H….
I guess Ankela Merkel’s words are prophetic – “we were falsely deluded when we thought that after we had invited guest workers to our country – that they would eventually go HOME*”… LOL!!!
This same “tinkling, clanging cymbal” is being played out in AMERICA*, EUROPE & everywhere the status quo is under strain from forces beyond its control…
LEFTIST RADICAL INTELLECTUALS COME IN VARIOUS COLOURS* AND, YES, ALSO HIDE UNDER CERTAIN RELIGIOUS HERETICAL GROUPS, WHILE THEY *SCOFF* AT EMPHATIC BIBLICAL TRUTH, UNFOLDING DAILY;
THEY CONTINUE IN A POWERFUL IDEOLOGICAL SUBMERGENCE OF THE INDIVIDUAL IN A COLLECTIVIST TOTALITY.
In today’s romance with Islamism, as in the twentieth Century romances with communism and fascism, the LEFTIST BELIEVER must CONCEAL his OWN MALICIOUS agenda from others – and from HIMSELF. He must achieve the needed CAMOUFLAGE with a pattern of behaviour that is clearly seen and can accurately be labeled for what it IS:
The *DENIAL-EXCUSE-JUSTIFICATION SYNDROME*
“Come, eat my bread and drink of the wine I have mixed, Forsake FOOLISHNESS and live, And go in the way of UNDERSTANDING” (Prov. 9: 5,6) emphasis added.
“In the 1980โs a similar movement began among Muslims who had come to faith in Christ. These were Muslims who trusted Jesus as Lord and divine Savior, believed Jesus died for their sins and rose again, and insisted this did not make them ex-Muslims or converts to the Christian religion. They wanted to remain within their Muslim community, honoring Jesus in that context. ”
HAS INTERFAITH DIALOGUE FAILED IN AMERICA OR IS THE ZIONISTS RELIGIOUS RIGHT & TEAPARTY SUPPRESSIONISTS INTENT ON JIHAD?
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More UTTER CRAP coming from TB, and this nonsense from the Riz Khan interview on You Tube, with two more morons, who are blinded spiritually to the reality of who ‘Allah’ really IS, SATAN masquerading as some *god, who promises to his Jihadists blist in Heaven for KILLING Jew and infidels (Christians) in order one way or the other to IMPOSE ‘Shariah’ Islamic law on ALL of humanity, and this deceived intellectual fool, ask:
“HAS INTERFAITH DIALOGUE FAILED IN AMERICA OR IS THE ZIONISTS RELIGIOUS RIGHT & TEA PARTY SUPPRESSIONISTS INTENT ON JIHAD?”
What are some of the FACTS and EVIDENCE in America regarding the TRUE Jihadist INTENT of ISLAM to control some day, the entire American nation.
What does the “Council on American-Islamic Relations” CAIR, really stand for WITHIN America?
“CAIR, which calls itself an advocate for Muslim-Americans, has operated largely in SECRET since its inception fifteen years ago. As a non-profit group, it is exempt from paying federal income taxes and is protected from disclosing the IDENTITIES of its financial donors.” (MUSLIM MAFIA, Inside the Secret Underwold That’s Conspiring to Islamize America, Preface, iii) emphasis added.
The following stunning allegations, “…which have been gleaned without CAIR’s knowledge, contain more than TWELVE THOUSAND PAGES of documents that collectively amount to a smoking gun linking the nation’s preeminent Islamic lobby group to TERROISM, FRAUD, and SEDITION.”
“Sheet to sheet, the pages of EVIDENCE would stretch more than two miles, or the length of about thirty-five football fields. Stacked on top of each other, the boxes of printed material would weigh nearly a quarter of a ton and require a forklift to move, they include:”
* confidential internal memos;
* proprietary minutes of board meetings;
* budget reports;
* real estate reports;
* real estate records;
* strategy papers;
* agendas
* long-term goals;
* employee evaluations;
* emails;
* wire transfers and other bank statements;
* proposals;
* handwritten notes;
* letters;
* brochures;
* spreadsheets;
* visitors logs; and
* a host of other raw materials not reported by the media or even
by law enforcement.
“In addition, this book is backed by more than THREE HUNDRED HOURS of videotaped footage taken by professionally trained investigators and researchers working undercover inside CAIR’s headquarters, located just THREE BLOCKS from the U.S. Capitol building in Washington DC.”
“Together with recently declassified FBI evidence, the internal documents and video surveillanve for the first time PROVIDE a clear road map to the CRIMINAL conspiracy by CAIR, the Islamic Society of North America, and other outwardly benign Muslim organizations to support VIOLENT JIHAD and undermine law enforcement – with the ULTIMATE GOAL of “eliminating and destroying” American society “FROM WITHIN”. This “grand jihad,” as they refer to it in their secret Arabic writings, requires
infiltrating our political system and USING our religious and political FREEDOMS against us.” (Ibid., iv, v) emphasis added.
Among the stunning allegations in this book:
* CAIR planted inside key law enforcement agencies; while a few
have been busted for tipping off terroris suspects, many others
still operate undetected.
* CAIR has previously unreported ties to al-Qaida- in addition to
HAMAS – and has worked closely with al-Qaida field
commanders inside America.
* The group is running an influence operation against members of
key homeland security committees on Capitol Hill and planting
Islamist spies in congressional offices.
* CAIR and its sister organization the Islamic Society of North
America have struck a secret pact to attack Wall Street firms
who do not comply with Islamic financing principles.
* Executives from CAIR travel regularly to the Middle East to
raise cash, and wire transfers show Saudi princes have donated
hundreds of thousands of dollars to CAIR – even though the
group claims to receive NO foreign support.
* A CAIR official working out of the group’s Washington
headquarters was the ringleader of a terrorist cell that
chauffeured the 9/11 ‘imam’ to secret meetings during which
they plotted to kill Americans.
* During the 2004 presidential campaign, CAIR organized a “task
force” of Muslim Brotherhood fronts to hammer out an agenda
which included supporting Osama bin Laden.
* CAIR sent $40,000 to HAMAS front group just months before
that same group wired $40,000 to Hamas.
* The organization’s founder hosted the notorious Blind Sheik at
home during the period when the cleric was plotting to blow up
the World Trade Center.
* CAIR board members and advisers have privately advocated
“Uzi jihads” against American cities and attacks on military
planes transporting American soldiers from Fort Bragg.
* CAIR defrauded poor Muslim immigrants out of thousands of
dollars in a legal scam, and then covered up the scandal when the
victims threatened to go to American media sources.
* The group launched campaigns to blacklist media personalities
Bill O’Reilly, Dr. Laura Schlessinger, Glenn Beck, and Michael
Savage, while successfully pressuring 24 and National Review
to acquiesce to their demands.
And these idiots interviewed, stupidly talk about interfaith dialogue, as ‘…they believe in one God, and brotherly love for one’s neighbour…” Absolute CRAP, Islam is from the PIT OF HELL, whose counterfiet * god IS SATAN, and this intellectual misfit, comes here pushing his LEFTIST, heretical AGENDA, under the guise of a lot of academic fancy words, what a dangerous MESS you are IN!!!
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I blame de wickers an de joos
@ Zoe
Here it is, a white woman, the bastion of racism. Typical whitey.
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CAIRS sound similar to AIPAC….ROFLMFAO!!
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More Major Revelation on CAIR
“Gaubatz left, but not before uncovering not only the INNER SECRETS of the dangerous Muslim mafia, but also the inner workings of the anti-Israel lobby and the ENTIRE LEFT-WING anti-American conspiracy that INCLUDES the ACLU, Congressional Black Caucus, and others.”
“What follows is a bullet-by-bullet description of the major revelations unearthed from boxes of CAIR files Guabatz intercepted on the way to the shredder, including many documents marked “NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION – FOR BOARD Members ONLY.”
“Ironically, the voluminous paper trail created by this notoriously litigious group may just be its undoing. Among the explosive revelations detailed in the chapter that follows:”
* CAIR is trying to spring from prison a former headquarters official who trained for JIHAD with the same Pakistani terrorist group that last year MASSACRED more than 150 people in Mumbai, India.
* CAIR officials are secretly coaching terroism suspects and witnesses to withhold information from FBI investigators, and have successfully obstructed at least one investigation in maryland.
* CAIR is donating thousands of dollars to the legal defense fund of a Muslim cop killer.
* CAIR’s visitor logs show that the father of an al-Qaida terrorist visited CAIR director Awad several months before he was convicted of plotting to assassinate President Bush.
* Curiously, the logs do NOT register any guest around Deptember 11, 2001 – in fact, the entire month of September is BLANK.
* CAIR has cultivated Muslim moles inside a Washington-area law enforcement agency, including one who illegally accessed classified records to tip off a terrorist under investigation and another with ties to Pakistani intelligence.
* A longtime CAIR advisory board member and top fundraiser has preached VILOENT insurrection, including calling on street gangs to lead an “Uzi” jihad in American cities.
* Another ‘imam’ whom CAIR frequently books to speak at its events has exhorted Muslims to hijack U.S. military aircraft, including C-130s transporting the elite 82nd Airborne paratroopers out of Fort Bragg – which happens to be part of the district represented by North Carolina state senator Larry Shaw, who this year took over the reins of CAIR as its new chairman.
* CAIR is putting books into neighbourhood libraries across the country advising men to BEAT their wives – but only “lightly” when they disobey them.
* CAIR’s library package includes a guide to Islam edited by a radical Muslim cleric who cheered the tragic space shuttle Columbia disaster as a “good omen” for Islam and is now behind bars for inciting anti-U.S. warfare.
* CAIR is running an influence operation against members of key homeland security committees on Capitol Hil and planting Islamist spies in congressional offices.
* During the 2004 presidential campaign, CAIR organized a “task force” of other radical Muslim Brotherhood fronts to hammer out a “Muslim platform” that initially included a draft “supporting Islamic groups including Mr. Bin Laden and his associates.
* CAIR’s leadership is coordinating political activities during monthly breakfasts with Congressman Ellison, who boasted during a Juma prayer in the Capitol building that they’ll have fifteen Muslims like him in Congress by the next election and then far more after that.
* CAIR lists in a “strategy” document marked “company Proprietary” a long term goal of “influencing congressmen responsible for policy that directly impacts the American-Muslim community,” including “congressmen, judiciary, intelligence, and homeland committees.”
*CAIR last year teamed up with a terror-tied Islamic investment bank to attack publicly traded American firms who refuse to comply with ‘Shariah’ law by using shareholder resolutions, divestitures, and boycotts against them.
* While cash-poor, CAIR is asset-rich, and in recent years has partenered with Arab investors – including a UAE defense minister who once equipped Osama bin Laden’s camps in Afghanistan – to finance its headquarters and buy up an alarming number of parcels of property in downtown DC while shielding them under a holding company.
*In spite of claims it represents all Muslims, CAIR routinely descriminates against Shiites and other Muslims – including its own employees – in favor of Sunni Muslims.
*CAIR is actively training Homeland Security agents to respect Muslims and Islam, while brainwashing them to think Jihad means “internal struggle against sin,” and not holy war, as part of a dangerous disinformation campaign.
*CAIR and the ACLU have formed a strategic partnership to target the FBI with “ethnicity related” civil rights complaints.
* During the recent Lebanon crisis, which saw Israel defend itself from Hezbollah rockets, CAIR actually had the temerity to seriously consider suing the U.S> and Israel under RICO racketeering statutes for “conspiring to commit muder, kidnapping, property damage, and acts of terroism.
The foregoing is just a bit of the unearthed info from within CAIR’s headquarters, who project themselves as willing, law-abiding citizens of America, ever so eager to help American agencies, i.e., Homeland security, et al, to work with CAIRs personel, in order to help America understand that Islam is a peaceful religion; ALL THE WHILE, the evil Islamist *Jihadists, are quietly planning and plotting HOW to infiltrate, even Congress, with one SOLE PURPOSE, to DESTROY America one way or the other; using the cultural, socio/economic JIHAD, as a subtle tool in their sinister ploy.
Now, those avid, black RACIST here on BU, who have nothing of any objective, critical analysis to offer, can vent their spurious, hate-filled bile on the white man and Jews, as they can only identify with anyone, who is NOT white, or Jewish.
IS MUSLIMS BEING TARGETS JUST AS THE COMMUNISTS WERE IN THE 1960’S – IS THIS A CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS…
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Zoe is always painting everyone who does not share his world view as a racist……stupse!!
When the Mossad stole the identities of 6 British citizens to assassinate….. YES…ASSASSINATE a Hamas member, his silence was deafening.
Then Zoe would have us believe he does not HATE ALL Muslims…..yeah right?!?
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Why dont you (Zoe) write on AIPAC?
Be Fair and Balanced, honest too……AIPAC has just as much dirt as CAIR.
Oops, sorry, my bad……they are the CHOSEN people who CAN DO NO WRONG!!
Go ahead……burst an artery now……..please!!
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What another foolish statement/question:
“Is Muslims being targets just as the communists were in the 1960’s- is this a clash of civilizations.”
And you call yourself an academic/intellectual, Ph.D, from Oxford, or whatever other higher learing institution you come from!
COMMUNISM WAS /IS from the *PIT-OF-HELL, with its rampant atheistic ideology, courted by such LEFTIST, as Ward Churchill, French philosopher Michael Foucault, the poster boy for the Left’s romance with Khomeini’s killing machine, which Democratic President Jimmy Carter had helped spawn, and any number of other LEFTISTS, radicals.
Foucault had in mind, the “creativity” if you will, was the mass death that the ISLAMIST revolution was sure to engender. Khomeini and the Islamist movement were unambiguous in their AGENDA, the teaching of Sayyid Qutb, with its emphasis on DEATH and suicide, which shaped their reality. It was clearly evident that Khomeini was not planning to set up Jeffersonian institutions based on respect for individual liberty and the right to dissent, NO, NO, No, Khomeini’s violent and intolerant attitude toward non-Muslim minorities (especially Bahai’is and Jews), secularists, women, and ALL dissenters from the Islamist side was no secret.
Islamist, the very core teaching of the Koran, are exemplified in these Jihadists, another ideology birthed from the PIT-OF-HELL, just like Communism, destined to FAIL, and both these wicked, evil, ideologies, as history confirms, have their FELLOW travelers, as we see here on BU, in the likes of one Ph.D, and the utter folly of one Bajan ‘ANT’ hopelessly STILL STUCK in the Epidermis of the Elephants FOOT, still talking ‘shite’ incoherent, rampant BS, no substance at ALL, in anything he says, ignorant of any historic facts, self-refuting arrogance personified, and the desire of such idiots, to shed their HATED SELVES, by blurring their individuality into a collective whole (HOLE!), and this yearning eerily manifested itself in Foucault’s craving “to DIE liberated from every identity.” Summed up so correctly by Afary and Anderson.
“The Islamists and many others (Leftists) who joined the Iranian Revolution seemed to believe that by adopting an attitude of “freedom-toward-DEATH,” by recognizing and submitting to the finitude and limitation of their OWN INSIGNIFICANT human existence, and by aspiring to a cause greater than themselves, they could bring about the collective existence of the Iranian community.”
So we see here on BU, those with the same devotion to totalitarian puritanism, that played and IS still playing a central role in the Left’s solidarity with vicious communist regimes throughout the twentieth century, and, so too does it serve as a CORE component of the Left’s current romance with militant, Jihadist ISLAM.
THE WHITE MAN & THE ASKENAZI JEWS IS ABOVE CRITICISM
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Zoe the Christian……
He is right, everyone else is wrong!!
Catholics are wrong!
Muslims are wrong!
Anglicans are wrong!
SDAs are wrong!
Mormons are wrong!
JWs are wrong!
Scientology is wrong!
…..feel free to add those I have missed.
Zoe’s heaven is going to be one ‘hell’ of a place……that is of course….if the Jews lets him in.
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The sad reality after reading his (Zoe) rhetoric, is that he is just as passionate to his beliefs as the very people he decries.
Dont look now Zoe but you are behaving just like an extremist, a radical, a fanatic, a racist….even a terrorist!!
Lets hear more of your eloquent speeches, littered with biblical expletives….ROFLMFAO!!
@Technician: “โฆ..feel free to add those I have missed.
LOL… OK…
Hindus are wrong!
Buddhists are wrong!
Agnostics are wrong!
Atheists are wrong!
Basically, anyone who doesn’t believe the same things that Zoe does is wrong! (Note, of course, that faith is, by definition, unprovable.)
@Techie: “Dont look now Zoe but you are behaving just like an extremist, a radical, a fanatic, a racistโฆ.even a terrorist!!
I second that!
I remember Zoe once saying that Buddhism is an evil religion because its followers don’t believe in the “one and only god”. In fact, they don’t believe in any god; they believe that the Universe “reflects” an individuals actions and morality.
There’s no moral balance on these issues as was cited in one of the YOUTUBE citations…
Name-calling, accusations and personality dysfunctions have become the order of the day…
BU’s thaumaturgical “STREET-CORNER” preacher type with his fire & brimstone immolations is ambiguous of the”Asvamedha” display of victimary rhetoric reflecting a de jure classification of the moral defects of character endemic of those who are so obstinate in their belief structure that if wrong (are so far down the road, there’s no way back) and if right, (are so far out on a limb, that it can’t hold the weight of their moral desuetude).
A constant display of emotional and sophistical religious contortions in dastardly citing Foucauldian zeitgeist is more of an allusion to Nietzschean guilt-mongering antinomians…
The holy rollers (the modern day JAMES & JOHN) spewing brimstone and fire rhetoric are no different to the ancient Hindu worshipers who sacrifice dogs in a voodoo-type ceremony while at the same time citing an early 20th century philosopher and sociologist when they ought to have cited 19th century “buller”, “demonist” and Zarathustra – Friedrich Nietzsche who charged that God was dead!!!
My question for ALL* the religious BUFFS* is – “FOR THOSE WHO DIED (from all faithful religions) OVER THE 1000’S OF YEARS AND NEVER EVER HEARD THE NAME JESUS – “What is their fate?”
Just like everyone else. Even those who did “accept Jesus”.
But… Iff (if and only if) there is an afterlife, I believe it is most likely to be something like that as believed by Buddhists: reincarnation.
Those who have done good in this life will be reborn as a human to do more good. Or if they’ve been exceptionally moral and good, they might become part of the Universe itself.
Those who have not acted so well will come back as a lesser being to relearn some lessons. African snails, perhaps…
Further… It could be argued that, even if there is not an afterlife, everyone has a chance of influencing the world long after they’re dead because of their life’s work; their actions and their writings.
The questions you pose CHRIS* cannot be easily answered…
BELIEVERS, ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS, PROGNOSTICS – ALL* possess some measure of FAITH* in whatever they claim to believe…
If we are going to commit people to HELL* because we deem that they belong there for whatever reasons – I am sorry but I cannot entertain that line of reasoning…
For me, there’s GOOD* & BAD in everyone…
According to Scripture – “WE HAVE ALL* SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD”…
“Life after death” aka “Afterlife”. A good reference (as usual) is Wikipedia, covering the topic from the perspectives of multiple religions is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterlife
It’s the same god for everyone from different perspectives, Christians believe Jesus was God incarnate as man
Jews follow traditional diet and rituals
Muslims pray together in crowds
Buddhists believe life is suffering
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Regarding the term “Life after Death” it should more appropriately be termed “Death and the Afterlife.”
Our English and maybe other present day languages, plus our secular concept of the meaning of “Life” and “Death” are woefully inadequate re the true meaning of these ‘terms.’
All secular and religious materialists assert that ‘Life’ is wholly physical; they deny that man has an ‘invisible’ and immortal soul and spirit. They argue that the unity of man implies that man’s nature in nothing more than physical; naturally, they stress the unity of man as an argument against haveing an immortal soul.
However, this is most certainly not the revelation contained in God’s Word, the Bible, as our Creator, Almighty God, as there are passages where physical life IS contrasted to the higher ‘nephesh’ or soul of man ( 2 Sam. 11:11) This is why man’s body is called a house of clay, IN which the transcendent self, or SOUL dwells (Job. 7:10) But the BODY (physical) was never equated with the ‘soul’ which is immaterial/spiritual.
The Greek word in the NT rendered as “LIFE” is Zoe, and the Greek word for ‘DEATH” is Thanatos; Life, therefore, is a deep, relational communion, with God, through Jesus, and ‘Death’ is the ABSENCE of such a personal relationship with our Creator, Almighty God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
This ‘LIFE’ is bestowed on the repentant believer through Christ, therefore, it is obvious that ‘Life” is no more referring to ‘existence’ than ‘Death’ is referring to ‘nonexistence.’ The wicked are ‘Dead” while they still, yet ‘exist’ in this world. Thus, the ‘Life’ which the believer receives at spiritual ‘regeneration’ the New Birth, being Born Again, Justified, must be understood as being a distinct ‘quality’ of LIFE, not an extention of existence, whereas, ‘Death’ is the spiritual condition of those who have not accepted Jesus as personal Saviour and Lord, and while they are alive physically, mentally, intellectually, and so one, they are ‘DEAD’ spiritually, which means, they have no relationship, or communion with their Creator.
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Zoe
A further point on the correct meaning of Death, from the Greek word, Thanatos, means, ‘Separation FROM, or to separate’ it NEVER carries the meaning of ‘non-existence’ annihilation, or cessation of existence, as erroneously taught by conditional immortality, which the SDA et al believe.
While, as I said earlier, ‘LIFE’ from the Greek word Zoe, is a very distinct ‘quality’ of existence, a very personal relationship with Christ, and our Heavenly Father, through the indwelling presence and power of the Holy Spirit.
So, we have two kinds of ‘Death’ the first being a seperation from any kind of communion, relationship with our Creator, here on earth, if we reject His Son the Lord Jesus Christ, and the separation of our ‘soul/spirit’ from our physical bodies, at the point of physical death, and the SECOND death at the great White Throne judgment, when all those who refused and rejected God’s universal offer of forgiveness, restoration and LIFE, through the Atoning death of Jesus, are NOW eternally ‘seperated’ FROM Him, in everlasting torment and misery, as DEATH, means ‘seperation FROM, or to seperate, NEVER ‘soul’ sleep, annihilation, or any such thing.
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Zoe
What is the ultimate, eternal FATE, “For those who died (from all faithful religions) OVER the 1000,s of years and never heard the name of Jesus – “What is their fate?”
First, no man, Christian or otherwise, can put anyone into ‘Hell’ or Heaven for that matter. When any serious Christian, who is well versed in the Word of God, the Bible, rightly dividing it, speaks of eternal damnation for anyone, he/she IS NOT pronouncing judgment on that person(s), as to put them into Hell, but, rather, is stating WHAT THE WORD OF GOD, says, for those who wilfully, having heard the Gospel of Christ, AND have volitionally, by free will, REJECTED Him, as it IS God’s Word, that declares eternal damnation for the lost, NOT the individual who faithfully proclaims God’s Word, as we are commissioned to do, to a lost and dying world.
Judgment.
“Because we are born in SIN and therefore CANNOT live up to God’s RIGHTEOUS standards, condemnation (damnation, the older synonym has other connotations today) hangs over our heads like the sword of Domocles ( II Peter. 2:3; Rom. 1:18; Eph. 5:5-6; Col. 3: 5-6). God Himself is the ONE who condemns (Job. 10:2; Jer. 42: 18; John 12:48). His condemnation IS BASED on His Justice, and such condemnation is deserved ( I Kings 8:32; Rom. 3:8; Gal. 1: 8-9_. Condemnation comes to the wicked and UNREPENTANT (Matt. 12: 41-42; Luke 11: 31-32; John. 5:29; Rom. 5:16; 18; II Thess. 2:12; Rev. 19:2) and results in eternal punishment (Matt. 23: 33), but no OT believer who trusted in God (Ps. 34: 22) or NT believer who trusts in Christ (John 3:18; 5:24) will be condemned. Jesus came to save rather than to condemn (Johm 3:17), and He frees us from final condemnation ( Rom. 8: 1-2).”
“Divine judgment is God’s method of displaying His mercy, as well as His wrath toward individuals and nations ( Exod. 6:6, 7:4; Eccl 3:17; 12:14; Dan. 7:22; Joel 3:2; II Cor. 5:10). As God is the One who condemns, so also He is the True and Only Judge (Gen. 18:25; Ps. 82: 1; Eccles 11: 9), an office and function shared by the Father (Gen. 31: 53; John 8:50; Rom. 3:6) and the Son (Jesus), (Acts. 10:42; 17:31; Rom. 2:16). Retributive or negative judgment is a direct result of SIN ( I sam. 3: 13; Ezek 7:3; 8, 27; Rom. 2:12; Jude 14-15), and is therefore both JUST ( Ezek. 33: 20; II Tim 4:8; I Peter 2:23) and DESERVED ( Ps. 94: 2; 14: 2; Ezek. 18:30).”
“No SIN escapes His notice; His judgment on SIN is inevitable (Rom. 2:3; Heb. 9:27; 10:26-27). God always announces judgment beforehand (Gen. 6:13). He informs us that our evil deeds are condemned by Him, and will be judged by Him. God ALWAYS gives sinners an opportunity to REPENT before judging them ( see Acts 17:30-31; Rom. 2:4; II Peter 3:9). There was a period of 12o years of grace for the people of Noah’s day (gen. 6:3). God ALWAYS follows through on His decision to judge ( cf. Gen. 7:4 with vss 12 and 23), once He has announced it, and once people have had an opportunity to REPENT. His judgements are irreversible. God’s judgments ALWAYS lead to DEATH (separation from HIM) (see Jer. 51:18; Hos. 6:5). Gen. 7:17-24, the ONLY paragraph in the flood narrative that DOES NOT contain the Name of God; REEKS with the smell of DEATH. When judgment results in DEATH, (both physical & spiritual) God is NO LONGER THERE.” ( Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, pp. 590, 591) emphasis added.
so what i am understanding from the above comment is
i. the first death is attributed to a disconnect between man and God because of sin.However if man accepts and beileve and confess their sins they can attain spiritual life .here on earth.
2. Again physical death that which we all must do can not be regain at judgement if mankind did not have a spirtual life on earth.
Question; Zoe Are you saying that it is possible that a decayed body which has been returned to the earth can become a physical being again according to bible teaching?
BTW: I would like to send GP A Shout Out!
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