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Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur

Amid the political rhetoric emanating from the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) political meeting held in St. Patricks on Sunday night, it was reported that former veteran BLP ministers Lammie Craig and Clyde Griffith called former Prime Minister Arthur is a spent force.  The current tussle between party leader Mottley and the Arthur camp to establish control of the party promises much more for bystanders to observe. A disunited opposition party will obviously work in favour of the government. Barbadians concern about preserving its stable political climate would be concerned when one out of a two party system becomes distracted by in-fighting.

When the BLP was defeated in the last general election there was an immediate handover of the reigns by Arthur to Mottley. It surprised many the haste at which it was done and this fuelled reports that Arthur was pressured to relinquish the position as party leader. One day Barbadians may learn about what happened at BLP headquarters in Roebuck Street.

Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley

In 2013 the next general election will be constitutionally due, Owen Arthur will be 63 years old. In the current environment with an economy spiralling caused by external shocks it is not unreasonable to expect that Barbadians may want to revert to a man who despite what his detractors believe presided over a Barbados economy in times of plenty. At 63 years old a message of being experienced and wise about the workings of the Barbados economy may work in his favour over the untested Mottley. Until the next general election is announced it serves Arthur’s interest to disrupt any public perception of Mottley becoming comfortable in the role as the Prime Minister in waiting. A recent CADRES poll which positioned Arthur on top of Mottley in national ranking should not be ignored. The assertion therefore by Clyde Griffith that Arthur is a spent force is optimistic at best.

Questions which some can legitimately pose to probe Arthur’s creditability and commitment to be involved in active politics has been his unwillingness to participate in debates in parliament. Barbadians are entitled to ask why would he not want to participate in a parliament he has condemned to be poorakey. Especially in a very challenging time for the government where his experience some may say would add value to managing the fiscal affairs of government. BU is already on record questioning the depth in the economic expertise which resides in the cabinet of government. Perhaps Arthur has been influenced in his thinking by the George Payne result in the last general election. Payne said nothing in parliament for many years but was re-elected by the people of St. Andrew albeit with a reduced margin.

It was reported in the media the BLP meeting attracted a sizeable crowd, no doubt driven by the desire of Barbadians to hear if our government in waiting has solutions to governing in the current environment, as well the expectation former Prime Minister Owen Arthur  would have appeared on the platform. Given the reported onslaught on Arthur by Lammie Craig and Clyde Griffith, one wonders how genuine the invitation for Arthur to speak on the St, Patrick’s platform would have been. A good assumption we can make is that the attack by Craig and Griffith would have been done with the blessing of Mottley.

Whatever happens now there is no turning back. Arthur and Mottley have declared their positions and there must be a winner and a loser at this point. Even if one reasons Arthur is not gunning for party leadership, it has become quite evident he prefers that Mottley not become Prime Minister of Barbados if he has a say.

The question is why.


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104 responses to “The Owen Arthur Versus Mia Mottley Rumble”


  1. But you may need to get a restraining order on me

  2. Surely you can do better BFP Avatar
    Surely you can do better BFP

    Perhaps those of you who wish to focus on abusing one another could get each other’s private email addresses and go at it in another forum. This exchange is altogether too tedious and predictable.


  3. @Negroman: “Chris Halsall wants Black Barbadians to eat inferior, expired,contaminated foodstuff that the Europeans & Americans dump on these islands
    —————————————-
    No CH did not say this and no one in Barbados is forcing anyone else to buy/eat anything that they dont want to whatever colour skin they have.
    BU has sunk to new depths in stupid postings.


  4. Chris Halsall is a typical white man with a very condescending ,arrogant attitude.
    Chris Halsall reminds me of Jack the human rat Borman with the subtle insulting way he belittles many of the contributors to this blog.
    +
    True
    True

    p.s. stop selling shit to the poor


  5. Chris
    I am not a boy (five /- three)
    but that’s a typical
    stereotyping comment
    from a white guy
    as per usual

    p.s. I already dealt with (simple)


  6. Demographically there are more blacks, and browns than whites, so do we want to see the current status quo for wealth distribution maintained, or do we want to see the tables turned and a more level playing field implemented in the future.


  7. Don’t abuse it.

    We have a liberal comments policy but we will not stand buy and let a few wash it down the toilet.


  8. sorry david
    but I was only reacting to attacks on me


  9. I will refrain from playing too much music
    This is the last song today I promise
    You’re treating me bad


  10. Now that we have regained composure I would like to speak briefing about what we just saw…

    We got a rare view of how the “haves” view the “have nots” in Barbados… And the attitude of many in the “have” camp… The irony in it all is that we the people help to create the CH of Barbados, while we a distracted year after year from the real social issues in Barbados… The CH keep doing their thing with focus on their wallets…. CH was right about one thing, the blame whitey song and dance is tired…. what they have they have …. But we should ensure is that future wealth, gains, and opportunity are distributioned beyond the “haves” circle, which is not the case today… We have to start electing politicals to do just that….


  11. Austin et al.

    Just for clarity — I am far from a “have”. And I donate my time every day trying to advocate the causes of the “have nots” against financial abuse.

    My apologies for my above to anyone offended by same, but there are two things I really, really hate:

    1. Racism or prejudice, of any kind.

    2. People not taking responsibility for their own actions and situations.

    Consumers *must* learn that they are actually in control. They don’t *have* to buy any particular product, from any particular vendor. And they don’t have to consume as much as they do.

    Sadly, this is not the opinion of most — we’re constantly told we have to “keep up with the Jones’”.

    Materialistic bovine excrement.


  12. We should blame David for using the word rumble in the title:

    Anyway lessons learned :

    1. The BU tradition of arguing or fighting could turn ugly and personal and unpleasant for others to read.

    2. The have-not’s have every right to provide input into idea’s on this planet or blog in order to raise issues and solutions for their families interests.

    3. Eliminating Racism is not about tolerating other types of people, but learning to appreciate them.


  13. CH,
    When will you get tired of constantly preaching to those who cannot hear?

    Your heart is in the right place and your advice is sound, but we ain’t listening.

    We complain, not because we want better a better deal from merchants and service providers, but because we have nothing better too do while waiting patiently in line to hand over our money.

    Ask ROK or BCW about their efforts to educate and organize Bajan consumers.

    Ask Lime how many people, if any, have canceled or reduce services since the announced rate increase. Then ask them, how many people are still on their waiting list and how many new applications they have received since said announcement.

    Chris after all the evidence you have seen thus far, you should know by now that we really like it so.

    Am I right or am I right?


  14. @kiki… [smile]

    My apologies to you personally.

    I can be rather emotional at times….


  15. As for the topic of this thread, politicians are simply amazing and amusing.

    We lesser mortals should not get too caught up in what is no more than a family squabble.

    When it really matters, there will be public reconciliations and a united party will be presented to the public, just in time for election campaigns.

    It will be duly accepted as such on polling day.


  16. @General Lee: “Chris after all the evidence you have seen thus far, you should know by now that we really like it so.

    And this is what gets me so frustrated and angry.

    ***WE*** have the power.

    If only we would realize it and/or use it….

    (P.S. Thanks for your kind words also. I know I often say things which are controversial. But at least you know where I stand.)


  17. Seems like everybody getting angry and making up and apologizing on BU these days….maybe, just maybe…there is hope for us.

  18. Surely you can do better Avatar
    Surely you can do better

    Oh happy day. The protagonists have kissed and made up and it seems that we may have realized that while this is a forum for free expression, it is not meant to be a ‘free for all’. Perhaps now we can start LISTENING to what is being said instead of being consumed by who said it.


  19. Hey Enuff,

    You better take NOTE you F***ing fool the people or the voters whatever you choose to call them (us) do not and have never voted or elected a PM (prime Minister) of Barbados like Adria H say about 7-8 member of the Party elects the leader of the party then in turn if the Party wins the government then that’s the way the leader of the party become Prime Ministre.


  20. @All… If I may…

    It has often been observed that members of families often fight amongst themselves…

    But the blows delivered and received are *nothing* like what can happen when a family is attacked (or taken advantage of) by others…

    I predict it will be a *very* interesting next three years….


  21. I think that before one can say that one has the option whether to buy or not to buy from the merchants, we need to understand the underlying reasons why people are *forced* to buy expired food. If I may offer my opinion, I would say that generally men and women do not want expired food etc., I would say that they are forced by the high prices in the traditional markets to shop where the price is a bit more bearable. How much would you say two bags of groceries cost in the traditional supermarkets?


  22. @O. C. Moore: “I would say that they are forced by the high prices in the traditional markets to shop where the price is a bit more bearable. How much would you say two bags of groceries cost in the traditional supermarkets?

    Let us please drill down just a little bit on your above…

    Can you please explain to us all why KFC is so very busy here in Bim?

    Not cheap chicken…

    (Cheep, cheep… (Mooo…))


  23. Am I to understand that by your reference to KFC, you are suggesting that Barbadians are spending money recklessly by patronizing this establishment? I would suggest to you that not all Bajans have that luxury of buying KFC. What Sir, is your point?


  24. And what does this have to do with the high prices set by the merchant class? red-herring…I am not hungry


  25. @O. C. Moore: “What Sir, is your point?

    My point, Sir, is that while Bajans love to complain about the cost of living, many (most?) are “living good”.

    Mostly likely living much better than most in this world….


  26. I was under the impression that it was against BNSI regulations to offer products for human consumption that were missing, or had passed the expiry date.

    Then again the price of all items offered for sale are supposed to be displayed prominently, but this is not enforced by the same BNSI, so I guess anything is possible.


  27. Chris Halsall,I viewed all of your actions with skepticism.I am not convinced that your contributions to the development of Barbados and by extension the Black People of Barbados are genuine taking into consideration the nature of many of your postings.I maintained the point ,that you are very condescending and your actions lack genuineness.

    Chris Halsall,your response to me about placing blame on whitey for all of my woes is just another excuse from people of your ethnicity not to accept full responsibility for the woes this world is facing and to shift blame

    Yes I have woes because of the lack of opportunities afforded to me and people of my ethnicity because of the racist tendencies of your people.Yes I have woes because of the selfish nature of your people who have practically taken up almost the available resources of this world and using those resources for the own selfish benefits.Yes I have woes because of the existence of slavery and the 350 years my ancestors toiled on these stolen lands this part of the world with out compensation. Yes I have woes because of the daily unfairness my people must endure because of the helpless state my people are in today.Yes I have woes thanks to the wickedness,corruption & evils deeds of the mass murderers the killing Europeans your kith & kin.

    Finally,Chris Halsall,you insult,belittle & ridicule many of the posters on this blog and after your abuse is highlighted you try to come with insincere apologies.Why apology for stating what you truly believe.
    I hate Europeans especially stinking Jack Bowman the human rat,Indians ,Chinese and all the other ethnic groups of this world and I would never make an apology to anyone for my feelings.


  28. @Negroman: “I hate Europeans especially stinking Jack Bowman the human rat,Indians ,Chinese and all the other ethnic groups of this world and I would never make an apology to anyone for my feelings.

    Stand where you are comfortable.

    I stand elsewhere.


  29. ha hah ahahahahahahahah


  30. @Anon:
    Thanks for helping to set Enuff on the right path. Ultimately all registered electors should get a chance to select the Leader of the country.


  31. @ Chris
    Living good? living good old man? you are definitely not au fait with the struggle


  32. @O. C, Moore: “Living good? living good old man? you are definitely not au fait with the struggle

    I am not fully informed?

    You might be wrong.


  33. @ Chris
    let me retract that statement Chris as I can not speak to your circumstance. The point I was trying to make is that with reference to supermarkets, people are stuck between a rock and a hard place.


  34. @O. C. Moore…

    Retraction accepted.

    @O. C. Moore: “…people are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    I would counter that People *find* themselves between a rock and a hard place.

    But then strong people do something about it….


  35. @ Negroman

    You need to understand that CH is an irritant that must be ignored.

    I have come to that conclusion and decision.

    Don’t respond to him.

    He is not worth the time.

    This is not because he is amelanotic or dyslexic. He is just a lowly member of the equinoids.

    He pretends to be an intellectual, but lacks the necessary Betz cells, both quantitatively, and qualitatively.

    in addition, there seems to be a problem in the wiring of the neurones in his very tiny brain, which affects his cognition significantly.

    There is NO cure for such a malady. He will evermore be a simpleton.

    Ignore him, DO! Don’t waste your time with him.

    More profitably to put a block of ice on your front lawn in the hot sun!


  36. C.C It looks as if you opened up one of those rusted cans, which contains worms.


  37. For my benefit Chris, can you present alternatives in bullet points to the conundrum consumers face?


  38. Wait! Is that the sky pilot georgie porgie dat getting on so?


  39. @Mr. Georgie Porgie…

    Thank you for your above.

    That’s very Christian of you….


  40. LOL
    GP only told the truth as Christians should…………but he did it in beaurtiful English with a touch of his medicine!


  41. People… Any time the CH’s in Barbados can opening blog the sh-t he has today to us who represent over 95% …. It should motivate all of us to get actively involved in changing this system we live under… Not for us (to late for us) but for our black children.

    For our bajan children men….


  42. Wait! Is that the sky pilot georgie porgie
    dat getting on so?
    ++++
    No that was not georgie porgie speaking
    that was god georgie porgie stops fights
    police in helicopter dub plate cut


  43. From the place of love… I love Barbados and it should work for most. Understanding that in life we all can’t be rich or middle class, but neither should we be poor. We have beachs and fertile god given lands. The “haves” have to release a bit to black and white bajan youth proportional … And the poor need to do their part to change their life situation.. Responsibility at all class levels is how we reach better days…


  44. One of the drawbacks to obtaining our independance under the wing of our former colonial masters has been a sort of favorite child syndrome most bajans have… We need to support bajan entrepeneurs young and old … and stop this class and color system that is running the day…. White boys run too much is Barbados … Blacks boys need a frigging break an access to opportunity , it is a fairness thing not a race thing, race is just the reality of who often has what… Black bajans with ” means” also have to try to help those that don’t and stop driven through poor villages like astonants visiting a far off land… My brother in law is a mentor to a poor boy in the pine and making a difference in his life… That is the example more of us need to follow….


  45. On the issue of expired food in Barbados… Not much needs to be said… It should be a CRIME ,,, lock their ras—es up and you will see accountability at it’s best , whether they be black, white, blue, green or yellow…


  46. So, what will Owen’s platform be, when he leads the BLP into the 2018 election?


  47. GP, was that vitriol aimed at Chris Halsall really necessary?

    And you pride yourself on being professional and a man of spirituality?

    Yet, jumped in and criticised others on the Haiti thread, who themselves had expressed disagreement on blog statements?

    As you briefly but firmly noted on the Haiti thread, we should call it like it is, therefore a definition would be useful here…

    Hypocrisy..a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion

    Remember, just as you expressed, we should say it like it is and by your recent postings, I am doing just that, nothing personal.


  48. I aint telling a fella what to do, but I does only read GP comments on medical matters, all other stuff he could be a total idiot and I would not know. lol!


  49. The Rap Battle a dead-serious attack at them.

    They all battled with each other, had stuff to say about people subconsciously. They always wrote subliminal sh*t. That’s the sucker way to do it. Just say it if you got an issue.


  50. @Adrian

    So far the information is Mottley was standing.

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