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Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley
Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley

In is no secret that the world is facing an economic and financial crisis of an unprecedented nature. It is now well documented that the crisis was precipitated by the indiscipline fueled by greed practiced by the suits on Wall Street. Most economies of the world are now intertwined  based on the free trade concept which underpins globalization. The inherent flaw in the concept of globalization is if the developed world stutter the developing world immediately contracts the fits.

Barbados economic stewardship to date is one which is envied by many. The benefit is seen in a per capita income which belies our size and resources. At this juncture of an unprecedented global economic crisis we have a new government which has to manage a complicated set of circumstances.

It is not our intention to pontificate on matters of economics and finance which are somewhat above our pay grade. We will leave that to Mr. Jones over at Living In Barbados blog and Hartley Henry.  What we know is the challenges that lie ahead demands that we depart from the usual protagonist roles which Westminster politics breeds, and reach across the political aisle to lead our beloved country through this perfect economic storm.

Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur
Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur

In our  blog posted recently titled High Expectations For 2009 Budget Speech, the BU household was unanimous in our expectation that the Budget and Financial Statement 2009 and the ensuing debate would have to satisfy unprecedented expectations given the perilous times. We are sure that time will reveal whether the measures announced by Prime Minister David Thompson will stabilize the economy until such time there is an upturn in the global market.  The political diehards maybe able to speak with certainty about the economic prescription required, commonsense however supports the point that there is huge uncertainty about what is required.

Against the above and again commonsense requires that our law makers who sit in the highest office of the land should close ranks given the gravity of the current economic climate. The next year or two requires that there should be one goal, to steer Barbados through this rough period. We have listened to the pedantic argument by some commentators that the Opposition’s role is to oppose. Sometimes we wonder about how some people who should be our leaders would so easily resort to cliché positions.

Prime Minister of Barbados David Thompson
Prime Minister of Barbados David Thompson

Barbadians who listened to the debate tonight witnessed a level of behaviour which would not have inspired confidence.  After former Prime Minister Owen Arthur delivered his presentation which was preceded by a few terse exchanges between himself and members from HIS side. Our disappointment was when the Opposition led by Mia Mottley walked out of parliament at a juncture in our history when the country is facing the worst economic challenge for almost 100 years. Time will tell if the Barbados Labour Party will win any political points for her action. No doubt the local press will feast on this story tomorrow with the thought of increase sales and listenership. BU however is concerned that at a time when our Members of Parliament are paid to do the PEOPLE’s business we should witness a fissure in our governance structure. We remain hopeful that the maturity of the actors involved will recognized that we are sailing on turbulent waters buffeted by a perfect economic storm.

To our members of parliament we say that this is a time to remain focussed like you have never been focussed before!


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  1. I see that the Prime Minister has hinted at some type of Breakfast meeting with Sir Richard Cheltenham, Sir Lloyd Erskine Sandiford, and the Rt. Hon. Owen Seymour Arthur (No Mia Mottley!)


  2. David,

    While you are talking about playing politics what about Thompson’s attempt to wrap up the debate before Owen had a chance to speak?


  3. We would need to get a report from someone present but our interpretation is that Owen Arthur was not in his seat at the time the Opposition was slated to speak. It would have been a travesty if former Prime Minister would have been robbed of his chance to speak. PM Thompson obviously being the politician that he is tried to used the situation to his advantage but ultimately it is the Speaker who determines who should speak. It was interesting to note based on Thompson’s speech that most members of the opposition were absent from the house in the early period of the debate today.

    The people’s business is paramount!


  4. I glad you tell Anon what was going on!

    I was glad to hear Arthur say that he supported golf clubs. However, he didn’t tell me after he had admittedly sold out our lands. He would start selling hmmmmmmmmm I dont know!


  5. I don’t like politicians to speak for me but I must say that David Thompson was spot on in his reply to the reply.

    Owen Arthur sounded bad, looked bad and had nothing to say.

    Why invite him to sit on any Committee? He has done too much damage around here!

  6. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    David Reports reaching in to me state that Owing has been noticeably missing from Parliament not only today but for most of the other days of their numerous number of sittings and today NONE of them were in their seats for the start of the day’s proceedings Strike one, strike two at the end of Dr Lowe’s presentation of his speech when the blp members should have been in their seats and those that wanted to speak should have been in place and SITTING AT HIS OR HER SEAT none of them were present according to the reports reaching me, and as the rules clearly state that a member wishing to speak must be in his assigned sitting place and rise to speak after which the
    Speaker will call on you to start your speech, at the time that they should have been in their seats they were no where around to be seen or heard, which led to the panic that ensued, with the 1000 Lbs of Blubber Mottley continually rising on a point of everything and anything that she could find to rise on to the point with buying time, that the Speaker eventually told her to sit down, likewise the voiceless George Pain he to was told to sit down by which time the See Thru Rum Owing was standing with a dumb look on his face, then suddenly up hops the 1000 Lbs of Blubber Mottley and rattles off for yet another time by this time clearly for the Nation to see on CBC TV he See Thru Rum Owing shouted at the 1000 Lbs of Blubber Mottley and told her TO SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.

    How insulting it must be for that monster sized, huge ego of the 1000 Lbs of Blubber Mottley to swallow its pride and SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP on the instructions of her boss See Thru Rum Owing.

    To the full credit of the Prime Minister and to the Speaker of the House he was asked about five times if he wanted or planned to speak on the Budget and after many attempts he began a wild and rambling contribution that amounted to a whole load of rubbish that at one stage he suggested that we operate as St.Kitts does with regards to the National debt that we do as they have done and run ours at 200 %.

    He was clearly rattled and certainly DRUNK and it was on display for all and sundry to see, their little game backfired very badly on them as they had planned to try to get him to speak last but as the rules state that you must be in your seat and rise to speak and you cannot speak from the corridors of Parliament nor from the BAR of Parliament you must be seated in your place and if they had no one seated or there to speak the person moving the resolution can close off the debate if no one rises to speak, simple and plain.

    These are very trying times and for the HM Opposition to ignore their job that is to represent the people that put them there is a very sad reflection on how they see their role and purpose in the House of Assembly, the Prime Minister was very humane in his treatment of this gang of scallywags and rogues, to offer to have the former Minister of Finance sit with him at future meetings, the trouble there is can See Thru Rum’s Wife keep him sober long enough to get sense out of him for an hour.

    I cannot wait to read the comments as to the feelings of our people with regard to the opposition walk out which shoed their contempt for the affairs of Parliament.


  7. Wishing in Vain

    Were you watching the same debate as me? It would be interesting, even if predictable, to see how many of the BU family share your recollections of what happened.


  8. Our interpretation was that Arthur was very lucid in his presentation. He seemed genuinely to believe in what he presented. No doubt the side bar with Mottley and others on his team will provide political fodder but Arthur seemed to be operating on an understanding that his delivery was based on a custom prearrangement.

    Whatever caused the misunderstanding walking out while doing the PEOPLE’s business is not acceptable at this time.

  9. Wishing In Vain is correct Avatar
    Wishing In Vain is correct

    Check-it-out:
    Wishing in Vain is correct. I saw and heard exactly the same thing, and I was paying close attention because of the fracas that took place when Mia started to squawk and blubber. If Arthur was not present in his seat or in the chamber, how in hell could he be expected to speak? You don’t need a University education to follow that – it is pure common sense.


  10. @David
    Yes, Owen seemed lucid in his presentation but shaking and frothing at the mouth didn’t help . Somebody must have sent a text message telling him to wipe the corner of his mouth. It didn’t look good. In my opinion he tried to match his memory against a computer memory. He told the nation a few years ago that he was not computer literate but he should have known that every word he spoke would have been scrutinized by the DLP think-tank and responses would be back within seconds on the MPs’ cellphones. That’s why David Estwick was able to do a demolition job on Owen’s presentation. Gone are the days when the think-tank ‘s responses would take 24 hours to reach the public via the news media. Owen still has a good economic brain but he must realize that he can’t get away with the things which Barrow/Adams got away with in their presentations due to the ever changing technology available.


  11. Some one on the opposition told him abut his mouth! I dont think they told him in an insulting manner.

  12. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    The quicker this gang comes to grips with the fact that the people of Barbados evicted them from office and NOW THEY ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTY the better for the island, as the Prime Minister said in his wrap up that the 1000 Lbs of Blubber Mottley and its gang are behaving as if the population made a mistake and really they are the ones that are wanted, that is so far from the case it is a joke, they were thrown out on their asses because the people had enough of their arrogance and their corruption and they are yet to learn or come to grips with their demise.

    It was totally shameful that a group calling themselves HM Loyal Opposition could act in such a childish and immature manner as to walk out , maybe it was their best escape after the vicious attack that See Thru Rum Owing launched into the 1000 Lbs of Blubber Mottley but that aside they need to respect Parliament and its standards and not try to set their own standards for a Parliament that they would like.


  13. Who is going to respond to the BLP’s side of this incident? I will be looking at this incident with a set of impartial lense, so Wishing In Vain, there is no need for you to respond. lol! If what the BLP contend to be the truth is correct then i don’t fault them for their action.

    [quote]
    A DISPUTE OVER the time former Prime Minister Owen Arthur was scheduled to speak, led to a walk-out from the House of Assembly by Opposition Members of Parliament (MPs) during last night’s Budget debate.

    And in a hastily called Press conference after she led the walk-out, Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley took aim at the Leader of Government Business, the Speaker of the House and the Prime Minister.

    She also questioned the absence of the Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) from the Press conference and charged that Government was deliberately trying to muffle the voice of the Opposition Barbados Labour Party (BLP).

    The 8:10 walk-out, said Mottley, was triggered by a deliberate attempt by the Government benches to prevent Arthur from making his contribution to the 2009 Financial Statement and Budgetary Proposals.

    She explained that the former Prime Minister was slotted to speak at 8 p.m., yet it was just after 7 p.m. that Prime Minister David Thompson rose to wrap up the debate.

    At that time, said Mottley, Arthur was in the Opposition offices at Parliament in discussion with her, unaware that there had been a change in the scheduled time as previously set out by Leader of Government Business Ronald Jones.

    Holding up a sheet of paper headed Parliament of Barbados, she showed reporters a hand-written schedule, purportedly done by the hand of Jones, that confirmed that Arthur was originally scheduled to speak at 8:30 p.m. before the time slot was changed to 8 p.m. which would normally be right after dinner was taken.

    “In his hand-writing he set out the time for when the five speeches (from the Opposition benches would take place),” explained Mottley.

    It was against this background, she added, that when Arthur was allowed to make his contribution after rushing to take up his seat in the Lower Chamber, that the Opposition decided to walk out.

    “Earlier tonight the Barbados Labour Party took the decision to walk out of Parliament as a result of a fundamental breach of trust that took place between the leader of Government business and the Leader of the Opposition,” Mottley explained.

    She said Jones should have indicated to her a change of schedule.

    “This (action was done) in utmost bad faith and angers us,” said Mottley. “It is only one in series of measures where they (the Government) showed bad faith,” she said.

    Having lashed out at the Leader of Government Business, Mottley then switched her attention to Speaker of the House Michael Carrington.

    “For the Speaker of the House to refuse to entertain me on a matter of privilege without first finding out what the point of privilege was, is highly unusual which reflects poorly on his management of Parliament,” she charged.

    She then lashed out to CBC, saying that a senior journalist at the Government-owned station had given her a commitment to cover last night’s Press conference, but was subsequently told by the director of news affairs that no one was available to do so.

    Noting that she had already complained about the lack of adequate coverage for the Opposition by CBC, she charged that such action was a threat to demoracy.

    “These are dangerous and ominous signs and we will not participate, nor will not stand by idly . . . and allow these things to take place. It will spell doom for this country,” she said.

    For his part, Arthur, who made his contribution without the benefit of his notes, questioned if the DLP Government was “scared” of him.

    Explaining that he was prepared to speak at the scheduled time, he said: “The DLP continues to treat me, as a former Prime Minister, with discourtesy and I am getting accustomed to it,” he said. “What are they afraid of? Are they scared of me?”


  14. Wishing In Vain // May 21, 2009 at 8:02 am

    they need to respect Parliament and its standards and not try to set their own standards for a Parliament that they would like.

    Mia Mottley said:

    Earlier tonight the Barbados Labour Party took the decision to walk out of Parliament as a result of a fundamental breach of trust that took place between the leader of Government business and the Leader of the Opposition,” Mottley explained.

    She said Jones should have indicated to her a change of schedule.

    “This (action was done) in utmost bad faith and angers us,” said Mottley.

    ===========================
    So WIV is Mottley telling lies on Jones? If not I cannot fault de woman’s action. I am not in the habit ever of respecting persons and institutions that don’t reciprocate in kind. Therefore I will not hold Mia to a different standard. Right is right and wrong is wrong. What says you????


  15. @Adrian

    Let us concede the point for argument that the government attempt to close the debate was an act of political upmanship. This was seen when after Arthur spoke Stuart and Estwick followed before the PM gave his closing.

    What is your view that the system of government which Barbados follows i.e. a flavour of the Westminster System there are customs, conventions, norms which have been respected on both sides through the years. In this regard a former PM one would expect should receive a deference befitting his record.

    The other point for discussion is the fact that the Opposition was not present based on reports at the start of the debate yesterday.


  16. Does the word “scheduled” mean ‘expected time of’ rather than ‘precise time of” . There is no excuse for the Opposition not being present and especially the former PM who was yet to speak.


  17. WIV are you forgetting that the now Government wqalked out of Parliament just before the election wasn’t it childish and immature then? Were they doing the people’s business then by walking out.


  18. Let me state in the most simple terms that this piece of paper is nothing more than an outline or draft of likely order, however there is one rule that must be applied for B’s or D’s and it states that a member must be in his assigned seat and stand when wanting to speak however Owen who seems to believe that he is God to the Barbados Parliament was no where in the Chamber for the day nor for the day before either why then if with no Opposition member in the Chamber left to speak and if the Prime Minister c


  19. If the Prime Minister choose to stand and add his closing comments as he is free to do after looking around and seeing no one in the Opposition benches wanting to speak, there is no provision for a timetable of speeches in Parliament you have to be there and in your seat and be waiting to make a contribution not the other way around the Parliament does not wait on anyone to waltz in having been missing for the day and the day before as well, it is just in very poor taste and not acceptable


  20. The former PM and Mia believe that they are in control of the running of this country and they are not no longer so.
    There is no program of the order of speeches in Parliament the only assurance is to be present and in your seat and stand when ready to speak simple and plain.


  21. My view of West Minster Bajan style is shape in general by it’s lack of appreciation for people participation, it’s centralized core, and it’s lack of accountability from it’s practitioners to the people it serves.
    Regarding the norms and practices I agree that political expediency and partisanship has in recent times led some political party members to use their positions in the parliament of the day to attempt to rewrite and or redefine accepted practices and precedents and at time attempt to look to practices in other parliament, not germane to West Minster London or to be found in Roberts rules and interpretation of parliamentary procedures.

    Indeed the way we treat our former Prime Ministers is a continuing blemish on all of us.

    One wrong let alone two can never amount to any percentage of being right What the opposition did regarding their tardiness, deliberate or otherwise at the start of proceedings is separate from what they claim the Leader of the Government business is said to have done or not done.

    ….The walk is unfortunate but what was the DLP to do when they did the same two years ago? At times both parties bahave the same way in their positions of government and opposition.


  22. If the Prime Minister choose to stand and add his closing comments as he is free to do after looking around and seeing no one in the Opposition benches wanting to speak, there is no provision for a timetable of speeches in Parliament

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    This is the big league, but I was of the view that under good Parliamentary practices (England and Australia) that the above only relates to:

    A Motion of the upmost public importance.”

    As I recall, when the Speaker of the House calls the “Order” and the person who proposed it is not in his Seat, that is the end of that – even if he was in the toilet with the “shittings.”


  23. Jones need to respond to the charges Mia made. If we cannot get people to agree on simple things like time management for speech giving, and to be honest in such day to day run of the mill communications, what hope is there that we can have our parliament act with the unity it is designed to demand and from which it is expected to produce good and continued governance of the country? I know of some 4h clubs that are run better than our parliament using the same or similar parliamentary rules and procedures. It is the membership always and not the institution itself.


  24. The Prime Minister was not in his seat AH.


  25. As I understand it, there has been a convention in this country where – during budget debates, the arrangement made between the Leader of Government Business and the Leader of Opposition, as regards the order of speeches – has always been followed.

    Given all the talk about “Team Barbados,” it would have been common courtesy that if there was a change by the government to that order, it should have been communicated to the Leader of the Opposition.

    My second concern is, why did the Speaker of the House stop the Leader of the Opposition from speaking when she presented her reply to the budget – yet the Speaker gave Hamilton Lashley five additional minutes?

    How could that be fair?

    Look! Over in the United Kingdom, the Speaker is being asked to resign. That is the first time there is such an occurrence there in over 300 years.

    When a Member gets up to speak, how can the Speaker of the House rule that Member out of order, even without hearing what that Member has to say? Everyone has the right to be heard.

    I feel the Speaker is bringing the House of Assembly into disrepute based on his demeanor.

    The same high standards that are being required in the United Kingdom, which is the oldest Parliament in the Commonwealth – ought to also take place in Barbados, which is the third oldest in the Commonwealth.

    Barbados is not a banana republic. Barbados is a stable democracy which has rules and traditions.


  26. Ambassador Kellman called to the talk show this afternoon to confirm what we all thought was the situation. It was a case of political gamesmanship and strategy. Apparently he referred to a time when the Opposition got to parliament late and the government has close all the estimate heads. The Opposition at the time expected two government MPs to speak.

    It’s parliamentary politics it seems!!!

    The bigger issue is whether the PEOPLE’s business is being served well in the current way of debating in parliament.


  27. Mia Mottley was right in her actions

    The actions of the PM were like everything else he does out of order.


  28. The bigger issue is whether the PEOPLE’s business is being served well in the current way of debating in parliament.

    ***************************
    Given the number of times Parliament goes on recess and the length of time it takes (on the few occasions Parliament meets) to discuss simple things, like changing an Act to change the number of people on a Board – I think the answer is no.

    Imagine, the biggest crisis in 80 years, according to Prime Minister Thompson and all he does is move gun licenses from $75 to $500.

    Man, are we in trouble?


  29. Team Barbados?

    Tell that to those people (and their families) who were victimized by this Government including YES those from UDC, where contrary to what was said in Parliament yesterday, people were and are being fired wrongfully and are not receiving proper notice or their statutory payments such as vacation etc.

    I am not talking about the headline stories of last year, but the stories that do not make the newspapers– pregnant women, diabetics, people with children to support and mortgages to pay.

    What is even more reprehensible, is that an employee of UDC who is alleged registered a business and then applied for and received contracts from UDC was fired by the new government, but subsequently rehired at the RDC because the powers that be realised he is one of dem.

    How can we now expect these people to subscribe to Team Barbados?


  30. Wishing in Vain says “The quicker this gang comes to grips with the fact that the people of Barbados evicted them from office and NOW THEY ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTY the better for the island”

    You should never mistake a moment in time for eternity. Of course you would not be able to grasp concept this because of your limited intellect but can you tell us what the recent opinion poll showed concerning your Party’s popularity.

    From the results of that poll it seem as though you will not be singing so lustily in the not to distant future.


  31. @Hog Squeal

    Explain your last comment in the context of the Estimates debate which would have preceded.


  32. As i expected. The BLP gets what they did to the opposition now that they are in that position. Parliament is a joke is it not? I told WIV not to respond due to his obvious political bias. Forgive me for not including Hoggie and other red shirt people. We can never get anyway with their simpleton partisan approach to everything.


  33. Which version of what the DLP is saying does it want the people of Barbados to believe?

    Through one corner of its mouth the DLP says that it wants a “Team Barbados” approach (world cup cricket talk) to dealing with the crisis it assisted in manufacturing in Barbados and that it will invite former Ministers of Finance and Prime Ministers to help Mr. Thompson and the DLP run the country.

    Yet through the next corner of its mouth, the DLP is saying that government won’t take and chances with using Opposition policies to pull the country out of its economic recession.


  34. The bigger issue is whether the PEOPLE’s business is being served well in the current way of debating in parliament.

    ***************************

    As I understand it each Member except the Prime Minister who is the first speaker for the proposition and the Leader of the Opposition who in our systems (speaks first from the opposition benches) gets 30 minutes.

    They often thank they constituents for sending them to the House, and if they are Ministers, they defend their Minisry, if attached.

    When Prime Minister of Barbados were bright, like Arthur, Barrow and Tom, they spoke for about 3 hours.

    Thompson spoke for about 2 hours and then seem to have ran out of things to say.

    As a result, the Opposition Leader got similar time (on air) eventhough she made a lot of sense as pointed out in yesterday’s nation newspaper and had a lot more to say.

    The PM has a second opportunity to speak.

    Having heard Arthur, it made no sense Mr. Thompson speaking a second time. By then it was clear that the debate was lifted way to high for Mr. Thompson to respond.

    By the way, when Mr. Thompson meets with Dr. Haynes, sandi and Owen, will he take notes?

    How could he add to such a debate?

    After hearing Mr. Arthur last night, I too agree that he should be given 45 minutes in debates such as these.

    I now understand why the DLP would want to gag him.


  35. From the results of that poll it seem as though you will not be singing so lustily in the not to distant future.
    ___________________________

    Please persons will not forget Mia’s stance of the immigration policy.

    She just thinks that Bajans are like in the days of her father; this is no cornbeef and buiscuits politics!

    Neither will we forget her NASTY WAYS!


  36. To me, Mr. Thompson’s call for former Ministers of Finance to help him is a sign of weakness.

    I seem to recall that the BLP said that Leadership Matters Most. I also remember that Mr. Thompson and the DLP said that they were “ready.”

    In all my life, I cannot remember any other Prime Minister and Minister of Finance sending out such a desperate, distress cry for help, especially to the very person who he told us that his shelf-life had expired.


  37. @Hog Squeal

    We keep telling you guys from the political parties not to insult the BU family with your narrow partisan political arguments. If you are looking for serious debates try to make them cogent.


  38. Anonymous // May 21, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Please persons will not forget Mia’s stance of the immigration policy.

    She just thinks that Bajans are like in the days of her father; this is no cornbeef and buiscuits politics!

    Neither will we forget her NASTY WAYS!
    ==========================

    Anon, the list of national issues that MIA finds herself on the other side of where the majority of Bajans are is very telling.

    The Homo-debate and Immigration the two major ones. If you break out immigration you will find her at the center of illegal Indians working on Kesington for slave wages, Illegal guyanese bringing down wages in Barbados. Others are, encouraging women to horn men and demanding that men learn to tek dum. Endorsing the bashment culture, to the point of backing one of it’s biggest promoters as a political candidate. Under her watch riots started as a result of some Gay prisoners feeling embolden to strike out and have their way with other males led to the burning down of Glendairy. This woman is a burden to Barbados and the very earth she walks on. Who in their right mind can endorse her as the Leader of our country?


  39. David I gave up on Hoggie in one day. He/she didn’t even show any promise of polish on his/her maiden entry to the BU forum.


  40. Which version of what the DLP is saying does it want the people of Barbados to believe?

    Through one corner of its mouth, the DLP says that it wants a “Team Barbados Approach” (World Cup Cricket talk) to dealing with the crisis it assisted in manufacturing in Barbados and that it will invite former Ministers of Finance and Prime Ministers to help Mr. Thompson and the DLP run the country.

    Yet through the next corner of its mouth, the DLP is saying that government won’t take and chances with using Opposition policies to pull the country out of its economic recession

  41. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    Owen’s solution is to borrow another 200ml, off budget, and forget the views and opinions of the ratings agencies.

    he was not pushing solutions, he was trying to defend his legacy by trying to sweep the issue of debt under the table, and simultaneously present himself as a saviour and genius.

  42. Living in Barbados Avatar
    Living in Barbados

    Parliament of the Westminster style has long been pure theatre. I’m surprised that many people regard what they see as representing reality, rather than acting (often bad). It’s ironic, given that, for former PM Arthur to refer to Parliament as ‘poor rakey’, because it is very rare for Parliamentary debate to be truly serious discussion of issues.

    From what I have heard from current and former MPs/Senators when they make comments on the radio, I also am amazed at the clear lack of understanding many have and their inability to follow some simple lines of logical thought and questioning. There is an old adage that if you cannot do anything else, then take up politics.

  43. Trained Economist Avatar
    Trained Economist

    I just saw the following piece on Bloomberg. Yet barbados is supposed to go out and borrow 200ml under the table according to economic genius arthur.

    U.S. Markets Wrap: Stocks, Dollar, Treasuries Fall; Gold Rises
    Share | Email | Print | A A A

    By Eric Martin and Margot Habiby

    May 21 (Bloomberg) — Stocks and Treasuries fell, and the dollar dropped to a four-month low on speculation the U.S. government’s credit worthiness is deteriorating.

    U.S. stocks declined for a third day, extending a global slump, after jobless claims topped economists’ forecasts and Standard & Poor’s said the U.K. may lose its AAA credit rating.

    “The markets are beginning to anticipate the possibility of” a downgrade to the U.S.’s top AAA credit rating, and it will “eventually” be lost, said Bill Gross, co-chief investment officer of Pacific Investment Management Co. in Newport Beach, California, in a Bloomberg Television interview. “It’s certainly nothing that’s going to happen overnight.”


  44. “You just come”, so your surprise isn’t really any surprise to the rest of us, and therfore not shared. West Minster has been shown up for the pantomine that it is, from as far back as American Thomas Paine, and with in the Barbadian context, from as far back as the 70’s until his death in Jan 2007 by our very own Oliver Jackman. During that time there was an attempt by Ezra Alleyne to place it on a pedestal, only to be knock down by me with the help of Paine’s and Jackman’s thoughts and opinions.

    btw, any body heard or seen Ezra recently? Strange things seem to happen to people when they can no longer feed at the public trough.

  45. Living in Barbados Avatar
    Living in Barbados

    @Trained Economist

    The US or UK (which got a rating down grade from S&P this morning from stable to negative, and a warning that AAA rating may be lost) have general borrowing needs, are always in the market, and their needs are huge (we mean billions of US dollar equivalent) and are always in the market. Countries like Barbados go the markets from time to time so face different conditions and are seeking much smaller amounts, which could even come from private placements. The bigger issue is at what price can the country borrow. The daily even monthly gyrations of the financial markets are not really so relevant to Barbados’ borrowing activity.


  46. Immediately after the former Prime Minister spoke in the budget debate the DLP M.P nicknamed, The Pitbull, got up and blasted Arthur.
    What a paradoxical turn of events for the Prime Minister to wind up the debate with the announcement that he was calling on the former Prime Minister and others to advise him on the way forward!!
    Thank goodness the people of this country have long given up on the ranting and raving that passes for a budgetary debate.


  47. ru4real // May 21, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    You still vex about flyovers. Let it go. Mia plan to be pm on hold. A long hold.
    Owen should’ve been in his seat. None of the opposition were in their seats. Disgraceful that!

    The way Owen holler at and disrespect Mia was awful. The BLP got serious issues. First thing they must do is admit Bajans kick their backsides out last year then move on.


  48. David,

    I have a real difficulty that on the one hand you condemn the opposition saying the people’s business is paramount and why don’t they help out (or words to that effect) but the shenanigans pulled by Thompson are “political strategy”

    At a time when Thompson is asking for help, he attempts to stifle one of the very people he’s asking? It makes a mockery of the whole thing.


  49. Not sure BU condemned the opposition. The slant of our blog suggested that with all the shenanigans, political strategies and oneupmanship etc being played our governance is being compromised with the PEOPLE the losers.


  50. Dear Church Mouse yu wrote “Thank goodness the people of this country have long given up on the ranting and raving that passes for a budgetary debate.”

    I second that. I haven’t listened or watched a budget debate in decades.

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