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Not since the days of the Gladston Holder columns in the Barbados media have Barbadians been kept abreast of the occurrences which involve the Council for Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission or even the Bilderberg family influence on world politics. Barbadians, including the media appear to be very comfortable ferreting world news from CNN and the BBC.

BU like millions around the world have been enthralled by the new entrant to the White House. President Barack Obama is without question a departure from the old guard. Some say any perceive change should only be taken as token. Many of the appointments in the Obama government represent prominent individuals who have worked in Washington in the recent past and are regarded as part of the status quo. For example, there is the influential position of Secretary of the Treasury Tim Geithner, the former head of the Federal Reserve of New York. How can Geithner be responsible for changing Wall Street when he is a product of the system?

The video above is one hour and 53 minutes long and paints an intriguing picture of Obama and the shadow government which runs the US government. While BU is inclined to ask questions we are not sure we fully buy in to the positions expressed in the video.

What do you think?

Thanks to BU family member Hopi!

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725 responses to “The Obama Deception Video, Deceiver Or Saviour?”

  1. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Hopi, Where was the white man when the Caananites, and all the other ‘Ites’ from ancient civilizations were practicing their Gross, Crass, Idolatry, Pantheism, Polytheism, Animism, worshipping a myriad of ‘False’ gods?

    Why did they ALL come to utter ruination? Was it the white man who in his ignorance, came and ‘then’ confused their wonderful, advanced, civilizations?

    The ‘Coherence’ of Biblical had, nor has nothing to do with any group of people, conspiring anything, the Amazing reality of its Prophetic declarations, and the actual FULFILLMENT, right to this very day, can ONLY be explained by a Supernatural, Omnipotent, Almighty Creator, to ascribe such utterly phenomenal realities to ‘man’ is absurd to the highest degree.

    Your premis, is illogical nonsense, filled with ‘Hot’ air, completely void to the end of folly, foolishness, and ignorance, BUT, entirely consistent, with your mind-set of demonic deception!

  2. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    HOPI: I’m still waiting to hear from you, on your great ‘gods’ and how Anon Ra spoke through the ages, guiding and leading his people, prophetically and by literal fulfillment, as DID ‘Yahweh’ throughout History, up until this very day!

    Maybe Ra is asleep, resting, like the ‘gods’ of the False prophets of Baal, when Elijah challenged them to see whose God, is the real God, and their ‘gods’ did NOT show up, BECAUSE they DON’T EXIST, just like yours, Hopi!

  3. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    HOPI, just a little reminder, that Yahweh, in the Face of The Lord Jesus Christ, and for decades now HAS been visiting Africa, yes, Yahweh, NOT, Ra, nor Pa, nor Ma, leading Millions of blacks out the bondage of all kinds of oppression, civil, political, but most importantly ‘SPIRITUAL’ darkness, into the Glorious Light of Jesus Christ, with LIBERTY, JOY, PEACE, and Eternal Life; just like He is doings for WHITES, BROWNS, and YELLOWS, all over the world!

  4. Straight talk Avatar
    Straight talk

    …..and what a fine mess tis saviour is making of this increasingly f@#$ked up world.

    Can we please get back to the thread.

    What , if anything can Obama do about it?

  5. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    Straight Talk
    You know full well that it is not the Savior who has messed up the world.

    You know full well that Obama cant do one thing to make it better.

    Who the hell is Obama that he can change the world?

    Cant you see that Obama is just another puppet, and that the master puppeteer is using him to participate in the world’s destruction?

  6. Technician Avatar
    Technician

    @ Straight talk…..

    Can’t have you calling this a mess……….Christians call it prophecy !!

  7. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    As a book of history, the Bible is unique in one particular aspect. It records PREDICTIVE HISTORY. This is perhaps the best definition of prophecy, since as prophecy unfolds history is created, and most remarkably, because once a thing has been said by God it is just as if it has already come to pass and become history.

    In this regard the future history of the world is reported in the Word of God. This statement though sounding at first like an oxymoron is most profound, and will be seen to be so as the days ( not years go by) as the events of the current civilizations clearly leads to the conclusion that mankind is preparing, even if unwittingly for the “ last days”- a time that is fast approaching.

    The historical narratives of the Bible are not just something of the past, nor are the events to come just future myths that scoffers reject. The historical accounts of Bible narratives impacts daily on the lives of even the ungodly in all contemporary literate communities.

    People who are impatient are reminded to “ Be like Job”. The phrase to “ have a whale of a time” reflects a knowledge of the story of Jonah. Those who find things incredible are “ Doubting Thomases.” When you are facing a seemingly insurmountable difficulty, the advice is to recall that David slew the giant Goliath. In Sports and any circumstance, as is often the case in business events where “ a Goliath” has been tackled successfully by a smaller opponent are reported with flair and flavor. The fact that we don’t suffer fools gladly is an idiom copied from Paul.

    Other favorite quotations from the Old Testament alone, which show that the historical narratives have impacted on the lives of secular society include phrases like “ Lesser lights ( Gen 1:16), “ The breath of Life ( Gen 2:7), “ Helpmate” ( Gen 2:18), “
    Dust to Dust” ( Gen 3:17-19),
    Being your “ brother’s keeper” ( Gen 4:9-10), when we refer to those who sleep through boring sermons on Sunday mornings and otherwise as in “ The Land of Nod” ( Gen 4:15-16),

    “He is as old as Methuselah!” ( Gen 5:25-27) is a favorite in Barbados, as safe as the Ark ( Gen 6:13-16ff),

    “ Fire & Brimstone” ( Gen 19:24-26), to live of the “ fat of the land” ( Gen 45;17-18). “

    A land of milk and honey”( Exodus 3:8),

    “ To harden your heart ( Ex 4:21),
    “ An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth Ex 21:23-25),

    a “ scapegoat” (Lev 16:5, 7-10) ,
    “ Love thy neigbour” ( Lev 19:17-18), “

    Jubilee” ( Lev 25:8-10),

    “ A thorn in the side” ( Num 33:50-52,55),

    “ Man does not live by bread alone” ( Deut 8:2-3),

    “ To heap [up] mischief” ( Deut 32:22-23),

    “ God save the King” ( 1 Sam: 10:24),

    “ One of these days” or “ One day”– very very popular in Barbados ( 1 Sam 27:1),

    “ To put words in one’s mouth” (2 Sam 14:1-3),

    “ A Jezebel” ( I Kings 16:30-31),

    “ To gird your loins” ( I Kings 18:45-46),

    “ The still small voice used often to refer to one’s conscience ( 1 Kings 19:11-12),

    “ To take root” ( 2 Kings 19:29-30),

    “ To Put your house in order” in preparation for death ( 2 Kings 20:1),

    “ The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away” ( Job 1:20-21 ),

    “ By the skin of your teeth” ( Job 19:18-21),

    “ The root of the matter” ( Job 19:28-29),

    “ A two edged sword” ( Prov 5-6),

    “Spare the rod and spoil the child (Prov 13:24),

    “ Pride goeth before a fall” ( Prov 16:18-19),

    “ Eat , drink and be merry for tomorrow you die,” and

    “ There is nothing new under the sun” ( Eccle 2:14; 3:13; 8:15; and 1:9),

    “ There’s a time for everything” ( Eccl 3:1-3),

    “ Two heads are better than one” is a corruption of “ Two are better than one” as given in Eccl 4 :8-11,

    “ A fly in the ointment” ( Eccl 10:1),

    “ Cast your bread upon the waters” ( Eccl 11:1-2),

    “ White as snow” ( Isaiah 1:18-20),

    “ A voice crying in the wilderness” ( Isa 40:1-3),

    “ A drop in the bucket” ( Isa 40:15-17),

    “ To see eye to eye” (Isa 50:7-8),

    “ A lamb to the slaughter” ( Isa 53:6-7),

    “ Holier than thou” ( Isa 65 : 2-3, 5),

    “ A leopard cant change its spots” ( Jer 13:22-23),

    “ Set your teeth on edge” ( Jer 31:27-30),

    “ Feet of clay” ( Daniel 2:31-33),

    “ The wrting’s on the wall”, and

    “ Weighed in the balance” ( Daniel 5:5-7).

    This list stresses the fact that even though many profess not to take the Bible seriously, the historical narratives of the Scriptures have nevertheless so impacted on their minds, that even if subconsciously, it has so profound an effect, that they must utter these phrase from the Word in their daily lives.

    The universal impact of the historical Biblical narratives is so great that the Bible has consistently been, since first printed, the number one seller among books of all categories, and is quoted more than any other book. In addition it is the only book that thousands have read more than once. Not many other books- even best sellers-are read twice.

  8. Not Saved Avatar
    Not Saved

    Yes Georgie, this is something called culture

    To a believer and unbeliever unlike, christianity has had a HUGE impact on our culture.

    The idea that the bible has had a universal impact though is laughable.

    It is also a book that far more people “believe it” than have actually read it.

    Of the 27 books in NT, most are forgeries, the book not having been written by the authors to which it has been attributed. (including the book of Hebrews you referenced earlier)

  9. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Will you teach me who were the authors of the 27 books in the NT, especially Hebrews (please give the reasons for your opinion with respect to Hebrews.)

    I think that more people have read the Bible than those who believe its contents.

    Whether you like it or not friend, the Bible has had, and is currently having a greater impact universally than you think.

    The reports from Africa Asia and South America are startling. The commitment of new believers in the underground church is astounding.

  10. Not Saved Avatar
    Not Saved

    Most NT scholars do not think Paul wrote Hebrews.

    First, it is anonymous it does not claim to be written by Paul.

    No doubt the early church thought it was written by Paul and that is why it is included in the canon.

    The writing style is different, the themes are different and the style of argumentation is different.

    Most importantly unlike Paul’s own writings, this is anonymous so why should it be attributed to Paul?

    The gospels were also anonymous but much later attributed to the familiar matthew, mark, luke and john.

    Perhaps you can tell us who wrote the gospels?

    I asked “Zoe” and like so many other questions I received no reply.

    Can you tell me which “bible” were the early christians using for the first 3oo years?

    Did the early christians use the same gospels you use today? if not why not?

    Were they using the “wrong” bible?

    Which bible is the right one?

  11. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    @Zoe……Let me tell you something. The Ancient Egyptians & Canaanites DID NOT worship many Gods. They worshipped the ONE TRUE NETER and they paid homage to the entities thru which the Almighty expressed itself.

    And like I told you before you and I CANNOT live without the SUN, so you tell me which is more powerful, my SUN or your SON?

    The white man was right there pretending to be their friend, while stealing their sacred knowledge, killing them off and rewriting OUR knowledge and culture as their hiSTORY. And what do we have today a pathetic ‘race’ of people known as the BLACK MAN & WOMAN. Zoe, I ain’t mad at you, enjoy your Christ but I will NOT konsciously be enslaved. For a true lack of self-knowledge BLACK PEOPLE are perishing daily. We’ve been on this planet for so long and today we write our age as the year 2009. This is so sad.

    @Georgie P………If the Bible was written by God pls tell me why all the negative teachings against women? Like women should remain silent and they should obey their husbands! Is this God saying this?

    @@@GP & Zoe……Why did the missionaries tell the Panare Indians that they killed Christ and why was the first slave ship named JESUS?

  12. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Hopi, “…The ancient Egyptians & Canaanites DID NOT worship many gods…They worshipped one true NETER, and they paid homage to the entities (deities, gods) which the almighty expressed itself.”

    Egyptian Religion.
    The gods of the Egyptians.

    Fundamentally, Egyptian religion was very local in its practice and horizons. The Egyptians in each district tended to worship principally their particular ‘deities’ rather than some greater figure of national or cosmic scope. As was commonly the case in ancient paganism, the gods of Egypt were in large measure the personifications of the POWERS of NATURE ( e.g., fertility), and of natural phenomena (e.g., the Nile) and their supposed attributes ( e.g., of falcon gods, bull gods, etc). Some were cosmic (SUN god), and some were the embodiments of certain concepts (e.g., Maat, goddes of ‘truth’ and right order).

    Insofar as various animals, plants, etc, were respected as symbols of natural powers and of mystical forces, these in turn were considered as manifestations of the ‘deities’ (gods concerned, even as vihicles of their presence – a role that came to be shared by statues and other images, and by sacred animals ( like the Apis bull of Ptah at Memphis, for example). This affected the representations of Egyptian gods in art. As early as the Old Kingdom, the gods came to be conceived in basically human form. Some like Ptah or Osiris, were shown commonly in entirely human form. Others by a kind of iconographic shorthand, appeared in human form except their heads which are shown as characteristic heads of the animals connected with particular ‘deities’ concerned. Anubis appeares with the head of a jackal, Sobk with that of a falcon. Thoth with that of an ibis, etc. Somtimes, they might appear in more than one form: Amun of Thebes was generally in pure human guise, but could have a ram’s head. (Satan)

    Among locals gods, Amun of Thebes represented the hidden powers of nature, and his close relative Min of Coptos embodied virility and fertility, especially human and animal.

    Among gods who had a far reaching impact, beyond merely local appeal, Ra and Osiris were by far the most important. Ra the sun-god had his main cult center in Heliopolis. He early became closely associated with kingship, reaching theological dominance in the state in the 4th and 5th dynasties.

    This is a brief look at the various ‘deities’ gods, that the Egyptian culture embraced in their religious life. Blatant, Pantheism and Polytheism, idolatry, plain and simple.

    Canaanite Religion.

    Canaanite religion had a Pantheon of ‘gods’ the senior deity was El to whom matters were referred by other gods. But, Baal was more significant, he was known as the fertility god par excellence and was to be equated with Hadad the storm god. Both he and Dagon had a temple in Ugarit. The god Attar was Baal’s substitute during his absence in the underworld. He was the son of Aterat, the consort of El. Among the goddesses were Anath, Asherah, and Astarte (Ashtaroth), goddesses of sex and war. She is associated with Attarat, the Canaanite Astarte.

    Again, just like the Egyptians, an array of gods and goddesses, crass, Paganistic Idolatry, no wonder they all came crashing down in utter ruination.

    Yes, Hopi, as I have answered you before to your foolish, idolatrous question, re your SUN god, and my SON of God, The Lord Jesus Christ, He Created the sun, and holds it in His Omnipotent hand like an atom; for ALL things were Created by, for, and through Him, and in Him, all things are held together, not by might, nor power, BUT, by the Spirit, of the One and Only True God, YAHWEH, whose imprint throughout history, over and over again, is CONFIRMED!

  13. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Genesis 1:1-2, is the Foundation of Foundations, the very first verse, is the foundational verse of the Bible, as Genesis deals with the whole world, and with all the nations.

    That is, Almighty God, IS, the Only True, Omnipotent God, as there IS NO others deities, gods or goddesses; as these supposed deities, are Satan, the father of ALL lies and deceptions, masquerading as these ‘false’ deities.

    Furthermore, this ONE verse refutes ALL of man’s false philosophies, concerning the Origin and meaning of the world.

    1] It refutes Atheism, because the Universe was Created by Almighty God.

    2] It refutes Pantheism, for Almighty God ‘transcends’ that to which He created.

    3] It refutes Polytheism, for Almighty God, Created all things.

    4] It refutes Materialism, for matter had a beginning.

    5] It refutes Dualism, because Almighty God was Alone when He Created.

    6] It refutes Humanism, because Almighty God, NOT man, IS the ultimate reality.

    7] It refutes Evolutionism, because Almighty God, Created ALL things.

    In essence, each of the above philosophies embraces ALL the others. Dualism, for example, is summary form of Polytheism, which is the popular expression for Pantheism, which presupposes materialism, which functions in terms of Evolutionism, which finds its consummation in Humanism, which culminates in Atheism.

    Thus, the entire system could well be called the system of ‘Atheistic Evolutionary Humanism.’ Other philosophical ideas could be incorporated into the same monstrous structure; naturalism, uniformitarianism, deism, agnosticism, monism, determinism, pragmatism, and others. All are arrayed in opposition to the Great Truth – marvelously simple, and understandable to a child, yet, inexhaustibly profound – that “IN the beginning, God Created the heaven and the earth.”

    It is remarkable that, when there have been so many anti-theistic philosophies (ancient and modern) affecting untold millions of people, the book of God makes no attempt to prove that God exist. The opening verse of Genesis, simply takes this fact for granted, as though it were obvious that Only a Fool could say “there is no God” (Psa. 14:1)

    That this fact is NOT obvious, however, is obvious in light of the contrary FACT, that Only the Bible does such Revelation appear. That is, all of the other ancient religious books and religious systems, as well as all modern philosphies, begin with NO GOD at all, but with preexisting matter or energy in some form.In the primeval chaos (of water or fire or whatever), the forces of nature (or gods and goddesses personifying them) then begin to bring the cosmic changes which developed the world into its present form.

    In spite of the universal prevalence of such Pantheistic evolutionary cosmogonies among the nations of antiquity, the Inspired account in Genesis does NOT attempt to refute them or to prove the existence of the True God. The reason for this strange silence is, most likely, the FACT that the Genesis account was written BEFORE any of these other systems developed. The others were developed later for the very purpose of combating and replacing the True account in Genesis. The latter had been written originally, possibly by God Himself ( “the generations of the heavens and the earth”) soon after the Creation, setting forth in simple narrative form the actual events of Creation Week. At some point in time, there was a need to argue about the reality of God and the Creation, since no one doubted it!
    (The Genesis Record, A Scientific Commmentary on the Book of Beginnings).

    Regarding those who are constantly harping that it was ‘man’ who wrote the Bible, and therefore not God, yes, it was many men, from a wide variety of cultural and educational backgrounds over a long period of over 1500 years, yet with a CONSTANT, persistant, THREAD of Divine Revelation, Prophetic Declarations, ALL coming to pass exactly as foretold, a literal impossibilty, IF, all of this was just from the minds of mere men.

    In my life time, I distinctly remember my dear Mother, who was a well qualified Stenographer, as they were called in those days, as Secretaries had to be competent in ‘taking’ shorthand, or the art of writing, as they sat before their bosses, who gave them dictation for some important letter, it was these Stenographer’s who WROTE what their bosses dictated to them, as the BOSS did NOT write anything himself.

    I use this analogy to illustrate how Almighty , God divinely Inspired those who He used to write and record His Word over many long centuries, not by passing their individual cultural and educational background, nevertheless, still conveying what He deemed necessary to be known throughout history, in His Redemptive plan for all of mankind.

    This is why we find it written in Scripture, God’s Word.

    “Knowing this FIRST, no prophecy of Scripture IS of any private interpretation, for prophecy NEVER came by the will of MAN, but holy men of God spoke as they were MOVED by the Holy Spirit.” ( 2 Peter 1: 20,21).

    Again we read:

    “All Scripture is given by Inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.” ( 2 Tim. 3:16,17).

    “Inspired of God” is rendered from the Greek word ‘Theopneustos’ meaning, ‘God breathed.’

    The ‘scoffers’ will continue to scoff at His Divinely Inspired Word, to their own peril!

  14. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Not Saved
    I know that it is hard for you to agree with anything I write, but see if these notes from my Introduction to Hebrews from my study guide on Hebrews makes any sense to you.

    THE EVIDENCE FOR THE PAULINE AUTHORSHIP OF THE BOOK…

    A. The External Evidence Supporting Pauline Authorship:

    1. The Ancient writers ascribe the Epistle to Paul. Such church fathers and early writers as:
    Clement of Alexandria 194
    Origen 230
    Dionysius 247
    Theognostus 282
    Eusebius 315
    Cyril 347
    Athanasius Before 360
    Council of Laodicea 363
    And many others, including many Latin writers in the 4th, 5th, and 6th centuries.

    2. The early Church held almost universally to Pauline authorship,

    3. The Greek order of the New Testament Books always placed Hebrews with the Pauline Epistles, between Thessalonians and Timothy.
    4. Peter says Paul wrote a Book to the Jews of the dispersion. Compare I Peter 1:1 with II Peter 3:1, 15,16. I believe that Peter identifies Paul as the writer in II Pet. 3:15-16), and that there is good and sufficient reason for Paul’s changing his style and for not giving his name in this particular epistle.
    5. Paul testifies that his salutation is affixed to every Epistle, Compare II Thessalonians 3:17 with Hebrews 13:25.

    6. The order in Romans, Galatians, and Hebrews suggests Pauline authorship, Hebrews.10: 38; Galatians 3: 11; Romans 1: 17.

    Romans expounds first two words “The just”
    Galatians expounds second two words: “shall live”
    Hebrews expounds third two words: ” by faith”.

    7. Paul’s yearning for Isreal are expressed would find logical expression in the Book of Hebrews. cf. Romans 9:1-3,

    B. The Internal evidence supporting Pauline authorship,

    1. The writer is a Jew and a Christian who identifies himself with readers, 1: 2, 2: 1; etc. and makes statements not applied to those other than believers, 3:1,6; 4:14-16; 10:23-25; etc.

    2. There is evidence of Pauline authorship in the style of writing in the Epistle.These include:

    a. The use of words and phrases:

    (1) The words: ” signs, wonders, and miracles” – sometimes rearranged,
    Hebrews.2:4; cf. Rom. 15:19; Acts 15:12; II Cor.12:12; II Thess. 2:9.

    (2) The reference to “high -or- holy calling,”
    Hebrews 3:1 cf. Phil.3:14; II Tim.1: 9.

    (3) The use of the expression “milk and strong meat,”
    Hebrews 5:12, cf. I Cor. 3:2.

    (4) The reference to “the right hand of God,”
    Hebrews 8:1 cf. Eph. 1:20.

    (5) The allusion to Christ “The Mediator,”
    Hebrews 8:6; 9:15; 12:24; cf. Gal. 3:19-20; I Tim 2:5; and nowhere else in the N.T.

    (6) The similarity of Hebrews 10:33 with 1 Cor. 4:9.

    b. The Writer closes the Epistle in characteristic Pauline style:

    (1) The use of the word “grace,”
    Hebrews 13:25, cf 1-Thess. 5:28; II Thess. 3:18; Col. 4:18; ITim. 5:21;II Tim. 4:22.

    (2) The request for the readers to pray for him,
    Hebrews 13:.18,with Rom 15:30;Eph.-6:18-19;Col. 4:3;I Thess.5:25; II Thess. 3:1.

    (3) The writer, asking for the prayers of his readers, also prays for them,
    Hebrews 13:20-2l, cf. Rom.15:5-6,13; 16:25-27;Eph.6:19,23; I Thess.5:23-24; IIThess.2:16-17; 3:16

    (4) The writer’s closing word of salute,
    Hebrews 13:24. with Rom. 16; 1 Cor.16:19-21; IICor. 13:13; Phil.4:22; Col.4:15; Tit.3:15.

    c. The Writer is intimately acquainted with his readers, and has been well treated
    by them, 10:34; 13:9, 23.

    d. The content of the Epistle Is Pauline in order.

    (1) Doctrine, up to 10:19,

    (2) Duty, from 10:19 to the end.

    e. If the Epistle was written in Rome, as suggested by 13:34, this would indicate Pauline authorship, since:
    (1) The Apostle Paul was In Italy, i.e., Rome, a prisoner of the Romans, and wrote several of his Epistles from Rome.

    (2) The writer desires his readers to pray for him that he might be restored to them the sooner, 13:18-19.

    (3) The writer mentions Timothy, 13:23, who was with Paul during his first imprisonment in Rome (See Philippians and Colossians.) Note that when the Apostle writes to Timothy (I Tim.1:2;II Tim.1:2), he calls him “son.” But when he mentions him to others, he calls him “brother,” cf. II Cor. 1:1; Col.1:1; I Thess. 3:2.

  15. Green Monkey Avatar
    Green Monkey

    Gerald Celente, Trends analyst and forecaster : Violent Revolution will sweep This country (USA). Tea Parties are just the beginning.

    Embedded Youtube videos of Russia Today interview with Celente at link:
    http://geraldcelentechannel.blogspot.com/2009/04/violent-revolution-will-sweep-this.html

  16. David Avatar
    David

    Obama has more than hinted that there is a bottoming out of the US economy. The world is optimistic that this is an accurate forecast but is it?
    Is it because Citigroup has made a huge first quarter profit? A closer look at their profit drivers show that their interest cost dropped significantly because of low FED forced interest rates. in other words Citi has been financing its loans with low cost FED guaranteed debt :-). Further reading also reveals that the FED balance sheet has doubled to 2 trillion as it continues to print the greenback at pace :-). We should not forget the touted private public sector partnership which has been established for entities to buy toxic assets from the banks to sell to giddy investors. The funny thing is that these toxic assets to be sold in investment strips will be guaranteed by the FED :-0.

    Forgive the fact that we are smiling as we write this comment.

  17. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    @Zoe…..Stop regurgitating what other liars have written. Would you expect those who destroyed/seek to destroy you to speak good about you? The Ancient Egyptians worshiped the Almighty that created ALL including DUALISM …Day and Night, Sun and Moon, Man and Woman, Spirit and Body in which to house that Spirit. So there’s no way that Dualism culminates in Atheism. My Ancestors never needed faith, they had KNOWLEDGE. They planned their lives around their cosmos. When you have knowledge you don’t need faith and the authors of the Bible try to scare you with the BS that without faith you can’t please God. Spiritual Beings don’t need Faith. You only need faith to give life to LIES.

  18. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    This whole idea of stimulus and bail out is for the Criminal Kleptocrats like Citibank. All they have done is change the accounting rules to accommodate the gangsters and this is the exact CHANGE that BaRat has brought the world—a snake-oil salesman!

  19. Technician Avatar
    Technician

    I must really say that I am sick of these Christians like Zoe et al!

    For someone who was on the fence trying to learn something , all I learnt is that most Christians here are arrogant and pompous !!

    GP….if I can find others like you …maybe there is hope but right now I dont see anything to convince me other than pure fanaticism.

    Ah dun wid this thread…..yawn!!

  20. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    @ Technician
    Friend. You must be patient with Christians whom you find a bit irritating.

    Just this morning at my church here in Orlando Fl, one of our elders was speaking about how he learned to be patient and gentle in dealing with his relatives.

    Initially, he was so excited at his conversion, that he rubbed them the wrong way.they also thought that he was a fanatic, and found the Bible disgusting. Over time (it took many years-up to 30 years ) he learned what it took and has lived to see many of his siblings converted.

    You may not like Zoe’s style, but his doctrine cannot be refuted. He is well read in theological matters, and I have myself learned from his expositions.

    Best Wishes.

  21. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    Hopi, You not only scoff at the Historic evidence and reality of the Judeo/Christian world view, which you et al, cannot refute; BUT, when equally, valid Historic evidence is presented FROM the ancient records, from within the very Egyptian archives, statues etc, etc, confirming the wide spread practice of their ancient Idolatry, worship of many FALSE deities, etc, etc, you ALSO deny this FACT.

    You are SO deluded, in every which way, I won’t be surprised if you were to say, that TODAY, Monday, is really Friday, as you already call DARKNESS, Light, and Light Darkness, do you know if you are a Man or a Woman, or maybe both, DUALISM!

  22. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    @Zoe…….The Judeo/Christian world view is the most evil, violent, vicious, corrupt, murderous, demonic, deceptive, enslaving view governing humanity today. If you think that you or any of your brothers & sisters in the “faith” are not idolaters you are sorely deceived. Soon and very soon all your filthy kingdoms will come tumbling down around you because they’ve been built with the blood of the innocent and LIES.

    As a christian you ought to be ashamed of yourself but then again what more should I expect from your kind. I think somewhere your Christ said that he came with a sword, so that gives you the right to use yours too. What happen to you man, ain’t nobody showed you no love at church yesterday?

    The only reason why today is called Monday is because of an agreement between parties involved.

    Both would not be DUALISM it would be confusion exactly where your mindset is ….. in a morass.

  23. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    HOPI, Hopping Mad, exactly as a few people who know you personally told me, real DEMENTED, as your Father SATAN, under the guise of Ra, Ma, or Pa, is having a field day with YOU, working you slowly into the Everlasting Abyss of Eternal Torment!

  24. Zoe Avatar
    Zoe

    BTW Hop,s who ya Warshipping today? Ra-sun-god, or one of Satan’s other Demonic entities, maybe Min of Coptos, or could it be Apes the Bull, or Anubius with the Head of the Jackal. I think Thebes with the Ram Goats Head would suit you better!

    Tell us, which of them demon gods you dealing with today?

  25. Hopi Avatar
    Hopi

    @Zoe……Come on man. Now you’re beginning to sound like a drowning man catching at a straw. I only know people who think like me and I can guarantee you that you don’t know anyone that I know unless you are talking about Lucifer-‘the light-bringer.’ Ah right?

    Seems like you took the time to do a little homework. I guarantee you that the SUN has more power than your SON.
    And I’ve already proven that to you.

  26. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    “You will set a record for posting under so many names. Willy Nily, Simple enough, Anonymous, Let me jump in here………. In case anyone is slow to catch on, they are ALL Georgie Porgie”

    As I tell you, it is all lies and deception; even at the level of Georgie Porgie. They can’t resist the deception to try to convince others because they believe they are right.

    This is what makes Christianity so dangerous.

  27. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    Do you believe you are right Rok?
    Does this therefore make you dangerous?
    Your logic is so skewed?

  28. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    Amen at the end of a prayer is saying, because I believe so shall it be. Of course Amen has been traced back to a corruption of the universal root syllable “Aum”, once chanted in the old religions. Actually, the pronounciation of Amen is still au-men rather than A-men.

    The real corruption is the assignment of a meaning to the universal mantra “aum”, which is naturally generated by the voice of sick people or people in distress. Aum heals the sick and comforts the disturbed.

    Just listen to somebody who has been in pain or mental anguish for a long time and you will hear “aum”.

  29. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @Anonymous
    You see it is not so much what you believe, it is the decption which Christians have resorted to for millenia. I certainly don’t walk about pouncing on people for their beliefs and most certainly will not resort to violence and the degradation of character if I think that my God is threatened or if somebody believes something other than what I believe.

    One thing for sure, the number of insults that emanates from Christians is not only anti-social but capable of inciting violence.

    Now if you were not so quick to defend you belligerence you would realise that I said it is the lies and deception that makes the Christian dangerous and not merely their beliefs. With Christianity the two are synonymous. Even back in Biblical times, people were stoned. It is no different now.

    If you tell Christians that their God is an idiot or is really a devil, it will incense them to the point that they will waste you away. There is no tolerance but rather a high intolerance.

    Herein lies the danger of being a Christian.

  30. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @Margaret
    “But some cities had cults dedicated to the worship of local gods.”

    Really! This attempt to “paganise anything that is not Christianity is a great deception because the same Christianity is a re-write of the same paganism.

    For your information, Christianity is still a cult. It has a baseless belief and its proponents have no problem resorting to war and violence over their Gods. Those are the characteristics of a cult.

  31. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @ Zoe
    “Rok, isn’t amazing how these ‘lies’ of Jesus and Christianty HAS literally set multitudes FREE from the bondage of all kinds of personal and civic hell..”

    Tell me about the wars created by christianity and the millions dead and unwarranted destruction of knowledge to feed a belief???

    Christianity has certainly not set us in Barbados free. It has made us slaves; first under colonialism and now under neo-colonialism. This entire population work for the elite and suffer deprivation under the system. It reinforces capitalism with the belief that the poor will always be with us.

    But that is not any universal truth, it was meant to explain that greed will always lead to poverty and not that poverty is a right.

  32. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @GP
    “The TWIT that is always harping about these ancient peoples seems ignorant of the fact that Bible scholars and theologians read up this sort of information ONLY as background information concerning the manners and customs of the time to help us understand the text of books such as Daniel, Esther, Nehemiah, Ezra and the rule of the Persians over the Jews as described in these books….”

    et tu Georgie Porgie? Why would the old text help you to understand the new one? You know that is hypocrisy? Accordingly if the Bible is what it says it is, it does not need background. What are you really saying? Who is the real TWIT?

  33. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @Hopi
    “You’re so funny I’m beginning to question your credentials!!Real funny.”

    Come on Hopi, I did not think that you were that far behind… but question them without delay and save yourself.

  34. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @ GP

    “Author: Georgie Porgie
    Comment:
    @ Not Saved
    Re Consistent with its very human origins, it contains only knowledge known by man at that time, demonstrating unequivocally it was written by man. Your conclusion is only partly true! You are a very naughty boy!”

    This is pure white master mentality. Who you think you talking to, a child? What naughty boy what? That is pure contempt and very disrespectful. You should pull your socks up and realise that you don’t have any monopoly on power or knowledge.

  35. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @GP

    “Rok and Hopi, are masters at throwing ‘Strawmen’ and ‘Redherrings’ into the fray, to distract from the substance and essence of the Christians defense, expressly because they CANNOT refute with any coherent argument of their own.”

    What coherent argument? You foolishly believe that the world was created 6000 years ago amidst scientific knowledge that this earth is millions of years old?

    What coherence when you believe that the historical accounts contradict the bible?

    What coherence when you talk about a holy bible which is really intended to mean that the bible is full of holes, other than those made by bookworms?

    What coherence when you can take the description of a rocket or space craft landing and call it God?

    All lies and deception cannot be coherence; not even reasonable.

  36. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @GP
    “In one of his posts, the world’s leading Bible scholar and theologian opined on this thread thus:-

    These are somethings that need to be ascertained:
    1. A record of Moses in Pharaoh’s mansion?
    2. An Egyptian record of the Israelites’ exodus?
    3. An Egyptian record of the drowning of the soldiers in the Red or Reed Sea? 4. A record of Joseph in Pharaoh’s court. After all, he rose in rank? 5. A roman record of the crucifixion of Christ? 6. A Roman record of the events reportedly recorded by the Jewish scribes of his death and resurrection?”

    Can you quote from the official record of the Egyptians instead of the bible? Is there nowhere else to turn? All you have quoted to prove or disprove is the bible; come again!

    Talk about credentials? Where are they? The whole world id wrong and the bible is right. You trying to tell me that the historical record is all lies. The problem is that there are many sources outside the bible that supports the historical record while there is nothing to support the bible. Really, who is the idiot?

  37. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @GP
    ” His coffin was carried about in the dessert for 40 years. I wish I had the faith that Joseph did.”

    Who would walk around with a body for forty years except a sick people? A Cult as it still is today.

  38. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @ Simple Enough

    “I find it difficuly to understand how anyone with basic commonsense cannot begin to grasp the factual arguments so well presented.”

    You have to have basic commonsense to understand that it is not factual and the arguments must obviously be false. Hence a man with commonsense will not be able to grasp anything that is baseless; no matter how well presented. Is that not Simple Enough?

  39. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @ Simple Enough

    “Hopi, You are an ENEMY of Almighty God”

    You see where the war starts? Because we hold a different view we are the enemy. You people are the most holy (full of holes) I have ever met. No other religions get on like those that derives from the bible. Well the bible itself tells you that you will know them by their fruit… and the fruit of people like GP, Zoe, etc. is all belligerent. Don’t think that GP has escaped… time and time again he has proven to be of the same ilk. Very insulting and degrading. That is the fruit of Christians.

  40. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @ Technician,

    “‘In recent times, one of your ilk, was constantly decrying and mocking the Death, and Supernatural Resurrection of Christ, that person is no longer alive, they were removed, not by any man, but by the Only One who can give, and taketh away, Almighty God, as He has revealed Himself in his Word, in the Face of The Lord Jesus Christ’… This is the type of fire and brimstone bullshit that really pisses me off coming from Christians!!”

    There is a story of a rastaman who had a hut among and in-between some mansions. When Gilbert struck Jamaica, the roofs of the mansions started to blow off… so the rastaman was jumping for joy, hollering for Jah, but then as the mansions came down and hut came expose to the wind, its roof went. All the Rastaman did was say, “Jah! it is I” to which Jah replied by dropping two sheets of galvanise that chopped up his body.

  41. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @GP
    “I don’t think that you should be so angry with believers who preach “fire and brimstone” as you call it.”

    I see. You condone it? There is absolutely no reason for it. It reminds me of the husband who resorts to spousal abuse when his vocabulary runs out. What Zealous what? Pure disharmony.

  42. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @GP
    “I believe that the Divine author of the whole Bible is God as is taught in both 2 Peter121 & 2 Timothy 3:16, and that there are several human co-authors. I also believe that Paul wrote Hebrews.”

    You will never know, will you? But it does not make what you believe, the truth.

  43. AFRIKAN ROYALTY Avatar
    AFRIKAN ROYALTY

    it seems that the powers that be have succeeded in there plan of spiritual enslavement all of you with this jesus and religion have been misguded badly how can your enemy give you your enemy. BLINDED

  44. AFRIKAN ROYALTY Avatar
    AFRIKAN ROYALTY

    I THINK THE HOLY BIBLE IS A HOLY PLAGARISM FROM THOSE ACIENT TEXT OF OLD GO TO KEMIT AND SEE THE TRUTH THERE ITS
    FOR ALL TO SEE

  45. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @Dark Knight

    “Who is right! Obama who is seeking to make the 12 million illegal legal or Thompson for deporting the Guyanese he does not like.”

    You are most certainly a Guyanese. I would advise Guyanese to clean up their act. I have discovered that the henious crimes that have been committed in Barbados and those that are not in Barbadian Character has also reared it ugly head in the island chains.

    I also recently discovered that the islands also have an influx of what is termed, desperate Guyanese and there is a serious attempt to link the two observations. Question is, Who are these desperate Guyanese and how do you know them from the decent (not criminally minded) ones.

    Apparently also, the “decent” Guyanese have been calling for the removal of these “desperate” Guyanese from our shores. I have been told by many a Guyanese to kick them out. Of course the decent ones don’t want to be kicked out but the problem is, how do you identify them. If you Guyanese really want to help us, you should teach us how to identify them as you can.

  46. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    Georgie Porgie says “I am sure that you know that I have not engaged in insults and ad hominems”

    I expect different of you GP and certainly don’t expect you to lie but I catch you calling somebody a “TWIT”.

    Even more subtly, here you are calling me “a theological expert” which I have never claimed to be… Hence, just as insulting. You are no different and if you would step down from your hypocrisy you would be truthful to yourself. Stop the deception!

  47. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    The trace of GP, in all caps:

    @Simple Enough is Enough…….Hopi back here at 1653hrs. Didn’t see that pancake arrive… WHAT HAPPENED MAN?

    GP: “ROCKY BOY”

    @ GP
    “10As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
    11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
    12They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
    13Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
    14Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
    15Their feet are swift to shed blood:
    16Destruction and misery are in their ways:
    17And the way of peace have they not known:
    18There is no fear of God before their eyes.

    It is so funny how all the above so aptly applies to Christianity.

  48. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @ GP
    “Oh wise Rok!”

    and there you go again. what hypocrisy GP?

  49. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @Anonymous
    “Ask the police. White boy rapes white girl in Bim. It is hushed up. It is not reported to the police. The whites sort it out between themselves. Black boy screwing black girl consensually, but when mother finds out, she cries rape and black boy is charged.”

    I certainly am not privy to everything, but I know a principle when I see it in action. I happened to went to a school full of white boys and I can tell you what I saw in operation.

    I also learned of some of the practices which whites indoctrinated into their children, which is why the feeling of superiority is passed on from generation to generation of white men.

    It is based on a domination and ruling by the rod. It is about an end result; the details does not matter. It is about using wealth to gain the upperhand. It is a belief that black people are observably ignorant and behave like animals; sheep, horses, cows; electrified wire fences will keep them in.

  50. ROK Avatar
    ROK

    @ GP
    Author: Zoe
    Comment:
    Hopi, Where was the white man when the Caananites, and all the other ‘Ites’ from ancient civilizations were practicing their Gross, Crass, Idolatry, Pantheism, Polytheism, Animism, worshipping a myriad of ‘False’ gods?

    I wonder who was Abraham? What was the Ur of the Chaldeas? Who were the people that lived there?

    What is a Bajan? and a Trini? and a Jamaican? What is Barbados, Trinidad and Jamaica?

    Finally, what race was Abraham from?

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