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Minister of Education, Ronald Jones
Minister of Education, Ronald Jones

Minister of Education and Human Resources Ronald Jones and his Chief Education Officer Dr. Wendy Griffith-Watson have been in the news a lot in recent days; some of the news has been both good and unflattering. The Minister has been attracting negative comment on the talk shows regarding the tone he used to address parents on the opening day of school at the  pilloried St. Paul’s Primary School on Tuesday. It is not the first time that Minister Jones’s strident and abrasive delivery style has rubbed some Barbadians the wrong way. Just a few days earlier Chief Education Officer Wendy Griffith-Watson let ‘slip’ on the Sunday talk show that Springer Memorial School and St. Leonard’s have been trailing the other schools in academic performance (words to that effect). Subsequent feedback in the media has suggested that Dr. Watson was incorrect in her assertions. Both have been holding some warm licks for their comments.

BU supports the need for the Ministry of Education to do some major research into our educational system. Some changes need to be made but…) Barbadians have been treated to too much ‘old talk’ over the years which is unsupported by research. Is it too much to ask that after more than 30 years of significant co-education in our secondary schools, Barbadians still have no significant body of research to reference on this matter?

While we boast of our high literacy and education levels should Barbadians not be disappointed that our educational system has failed in the realm of developing a research and development based approach in its backyard?

The global arena has evolved to a very complex space which requires that our people are possessed of an intellectual capacity to ensure our survival and competitiveness like never before. We have allowed our schools to become overcrowded; it is not uncommon for classrooms in our primary system to average 30, an anecdotal position. We have not provisioned in any significant way to our children with special needs. We have not engaged in any significant research to determine why females should be coaching our boys cricket teams because of the exodus of men from the teaching service. We have not sought to create strategies to create programs to encourage reading back in our schools and homes to combat the influence of television, Internet and other modern day distractions. Now is a good time to highlight our disgust that the Public Library should be allowed to remain close since July 2006.

The former government conceived of EDUTEC which is still a good concept, the problem has been in its execution. Education along with health devours too much of the national budget to be managed from the seat of the pants of anybody. The recent initiative by the government to allow school children under 18 to ride free on public transport is fantastic! The Democratic Labour Party (DLP) is no stranger to rolling-out pioneering social programs. It was under the late National Hero of Barbados Errol Barrow that free education and school meals was introduced. We congratulate the government on a seamless rollout of the free bus service. We urge all in the process to remain vigilant to ensure the service is maintained at a high level.

The significance and the benefit to be derived from a free school bus service should not be underscored. We see this initiative as an attempt to engage in social reengineering in our society at a time when morals are slipping and slowly but surely started to wash away the values which have made Barbados strong. Not to be dismissed is the positive affect we anticipate the free bus service will have by countering the sub-culture linked to the mini-bus and ZRs. We are willing to bet that the initiative may save the next generation. Our only concern at this point in the young DLP tenure is the emphasis on rolling out social investment polices which we suspect are placing a strain on public finances. We will have to wait for the Central Bank reporting at the end of the year to properly support our suspicion. While social investment is required to ensure the good development of any social the need to sustain productivity levels must remain a priority. This is key at this time as we operate in challenging economic times.

Minister Ronald Jones we are pleased that our Minister of Education is grabbing the media spotlight even though it means the beautiful Minister of Family, Youth Affairs, Sports and the Environment Esther Byer-Sukoo has been relegated. The stakes are high for our little island, education was the lever used by the late Errol Barrow to enfranchise our people in the 60’s to drive our development, our success as a country remains the envy of many.

Let us fix the damn cracks!


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125 responses to “Time To Remove The Band-Aid From Education”


  1. Esther Byer suckoo is still in the papers every other day…. LOL

    Ronald jones is a teacher and a union member so I think he speaks form aposition of knowledge. Barbadians in general cannot handle the truth especially in regards to their children. Good education costs money. On the other hand you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink… why are the boys on the block?????


  2. Like everything else, education requires good leadership. Minister Jones is really not the ideal leader for education – in that he brings too much of his football and Union attitude to the job.

    On the other hand, the quality of our leadership in Education has declined so much in the last decades that even with his brash style, Minister Jones is a breath of fresh air.
    The business of running around with a ‘hands on’ approach is good for press but REAL leadership is about inspiring your subordinates to perform impressively.

    The biggest problem in Education right now is the Ministry of Education. It appears that we have an army of occupation there led by Mrs Watson Griffith whose goal in life is to defend their fetish for co-education at any cost…

    One ‘Grenville Phillips III’ outlined in a letter to the Nation last week exactly what is the folly of co-education and why it is GUARANTEED to result in under performing boys; and in men leaving the teaching system.
    Principals like Major Barker, Mr Broomes and others have been saying this for YEARS and yet we allow these women to sit in this ministry and destroy our young men.

    What Co-education what!?!
    Transfer her behind to CXC or some other meaningless place and let us have an intelligent MAN providing leadership in education.

    Billie Miller and Mia, aided by a string of gutless men like Wood, all sat by and allowed our system to fail through a basic fundamental flaw that was identified from the very beginning.

    They all vilified and frustrated principals like Barker etc who PROVED that single sex education WORKS for both boys and girls.

    Mrs Griffith Watson should be sidelined if only for her tactless, unsupported reference to Springer and St Leonards recently as the worst performing schools… this was just an instinctive, biased reaction based on her pro co-ed stance.

    I think that all school statistics and results should be PUBLISHED so that we can respond by doing what is best for our children.


  3. Unless Mrs. Griffith-Watson can produce concrete evidence to support her comments, she should apologise to these two schools. Failing to do this she should resign. Comments like these are damaging to the schools. Min Jones got to stop his attitude of talking down to people. He did it when he was president of BUT, he is doing it as president of BFA and he is in a more aloft position now to do it as minister.

  4. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    First things first.

    Barbados needs a real Chief Education Officer.


  5. Carson C. Cadogan
    She was reall very good, smart and relevant when she started a few years back. Oh how she has deteriorated, and the worst thing is that she is still quite young. We’re stuck with her for a few years yet.

    Now Minister Ronald Jones… what a bore!


  6. The Chief Education Officer’s comments were misguided. If people want her to resign start by flooding the Ministry with letters and getting petitions signed by offended persons. These things will begin the process of applying pressure.


  7. The identification of the schools was about as tactless as you can get.

    This year, and I think last year, Springer Memorial ruled girls school sports.

    QC is at the top in Boys.

    One is single sex, the other is co-ed.

    We don’t know who came last and we don’t care!!

    The only thing that matters is that all students give of their best.

    This happens not only because of the efforts of the student, but also because of the motivation they receive at their schools and in their homes.

    My gut instinct is that co-ed is not good and I have heard compelling arguments to support this thesis.

    … but co-ed works all over the world.

    For me it is not the arguments for and against but it is the stories I have heard of sexuality in schools which tell me something is wrong and that our children are being deprived of the chance to be children.

    I am not sure if these stories stem from situations where the school staff is in control of the students and keeps them well motivated and directed or whether they stem from situations where the children are left to their own devices.

    I remember the staff at school, the interest they took in us and the expectations they had of us.

    The adults in my life when I was a child were always involved in some way too, if only to give an encouraging word and communicate an expectation.

    I wonder if some teachers are just doing the job for a paycheck and not going the extra mile for their students. I know some parents and adults need a wake up call.

    I am thinking this whole uniform episode and the attention it focuses on children by adults (not only teachers and parents) involved in their learning environment is good not only for our children, but for our adults too.

    Hopefully it will not be a nine day wonder.


  8. It is the opinion of some that boys mature more slowly than girls. Perhaps there should be an equal distribution scholarships, and places at UWI, taking into account applications, specifically on the basis of sex.

    Affirmative action? It is not the boys’ fault that they mature later.


  9. John
    In fact all over the world many people are complaining that co-ed is bad for the boys.
    Here is a true story for you, when I asked my daughter how she could beat the boys in her class in woodwork/metalwork, she stupsed and replied
    “Well all the boys want to do is walk round chosseling the girls.”


  10. As I said in my earlier post I fully support Minister Ronald Jones for first being willing and being on hand in what was destined to be a hostile setup, and for the other reason for being a worker and not a talker as was so often the case with the former adminstration and its officers.

    The Minister was prepared and made himself available which is so unlike the former blp Ministers that we only heard but never saw or got real action out of, this Minister is willing and has shown real leadership in taking care of his area of responsibilty, the truth is the Minister has a job to do and he needs not be distracted but rather put all effort into getting it done, it is also so refreshing to see a Minister of Gov’t getting involved in lifting and moving desk and chairs into a class room it is a breath of fresh air and one which must be complimented and set out for the highest praise, keep the good work up Mr Minister a job well done.

    I am so happy that The Scout and his clan are becoming more forward thinking and are now prepared to accept that the new Gov’t is good for this island the old tired and worn out people of the blp are in retirement, which is a grand thing for progressive DLP thinking.

    The new thinking saw the VERY SMOOTH shift to getting the numerous numbers of school children to their schools on time and without the stress associated with planning of this type the new Gov’t saw to it that each and every child of school age was delivered to their school without having to pay a SINGLE CENT to do so.

    I must compliment everyone involved in this exercise and give the Prime Minister The Hon Mr David Thompson, the Minister of Education Mr Ronald Jones, the Minister of Transport Mr John Boyce FULL and complete marks for making this the success that it was without the hassle that many expected, it took super planning and arranging to have reached where we reached minus the hassle that many blp operatives had hoped and wished for, it was carried out in a most professional manner that you could ask for.

    May I also state, from reading the comments in the press not only are the parents happy to not to have to pay this burden of a bus fare but so to are the school children they too are ecstatic about their new found means of travel to their schools, my congrats to all that went out of their way to make this the great success that it has been may the lord bless them and give them strength to move on to the next task and deliver there as well.

    I also to want to pick out Mr Ronald Jones for special praise, he has been like a beacon on a dark night showing the way, he faced the events and came out of it standing tall as we saw this Minister was seen in the forefront of the events recently THE ONLY MINISTER IN YEARS THAT WAS WILLING TO BE UP FRONT AND HANDS ON IN A SITUATION THAT WAS COMBATIVE AND WHAT DID HE DO ?

    HE PUT HIS HANDS TO THE TASK AND LIFTED DESK AND CHAIRS INTO THE CLASS ROOMS, if this is not the real signs of a great leader I do not know what is, he led from in front he did what was necessary to get those kids back into the class rooms and for this I totally admire his leadership qualities and style, he is to be commended and praised for his willingness to take the bull by the horns and address the outstanding issues at the schools and resolved they were, you have my compliments and praise Minister Mr Ronald Jones keep the good work up and may you go from strength to strength with gods help and mercy.

    One other point of note is why has it been necessary for the taxpayers to fund Hallam Nicholls, Owing Arthur and Steven Hobson by buying a constant supply of new buses and never having anything more than 200 on the road at any point in time but under this return to school program we saw as many as 250 buses delivered and serviceable and operational to the Transport Board, we really ought to request an inquiry into the operation of the Transport Board as there seems to be steal in their as well, because very quickly under this new Gov’t they have an additional 50 buses in the program, something that was thought to be impossible until the DLP Gov’t took the reins of Gov’t and halted the corruption and dishonesty in Gov’t operations, three chairs to the DLP, Hip, Hip Hooray, Hip , Hip Hooray, Hip, Hip Hooray.

    For a job and a mission well done, not even the most vocal like Henderson Bovell has the mouth to whisper a word in disgust, because he knows the ire that it will bring onto himself and his clan of crooks.


  11. Kay // September 5, 2008 at 9:15 am

    John
    In fact all over the world many people are complaining that co-ed is bad for the boys.
    Here is a true story for you, when I asked my daughter how she could beat the boys in her class in woodwork/metalwork, she stupsed and replied
    “Well all the boys want to do is walk round chosseling the girls.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I have a link to illustrate the falling education standards in the UK but it doesn’t attribute that fall to coed!!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/06/07/do0701.xml&DCMP=EMC-new_07062008

    My gut instint is that coed could not be good for education and the reason your daughter gave you is one of the same reasons I would advance …. but this reason should affect the girls being chosseled too.

    In your daughter’s woodwork/metalwork class, is the top girls and the bottom boys?

    I don’t have a problem with coed in sixth form.

    Here is where the limited resources available to students should be available based on merit and gender should not be an issue.


  12. HE PUT HIS HANDS TO THE TASK AND LIFTED DESK AND CHAIRS INTO THE CLASS ROOMS …..
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Rommell Marshall used to appear in the paper with his shirt sleeves rolled up and looking as though he was actively involved in the roadworks his ministry for which was responsible.

    I am glad Ronald Jones actually did his bit but I think you need to give credit to the parents who would not leave their charges and did something about it.

    Ronald Jones just figured out he had a problem and he better not falter!!

    I have seen in the papers parents lending a hand in the preparation of their children’s schools and it is this that is the highlight, not the minister.


  13. Our boys are not in trouble because of co-education.

    Our boys are in trouble because too many of our fathers have absented themselves from the lives of their sons.

    Take note that boys whose fathers are in the HOME and who are actively involved in guiding and loving their sons are doing EXCELLENTLY.

    This is a call for the men of Barbados to come HOME to their boys.


  14. Listen!

    Dis is my position. I cant stand de DLP. I think most of these idiots need image consultants and need to be trained in managing their public personas. There are now representatives of the people.
    The talk-down approach has to go.

    Now that being said. I must congratulate de ugly idiot Minister for putting a 6th Form at Foundation. Dont understand why it wasnt done ever since. The teachers are qualified and the science labs are already there. If you need to put up a few pre-fab buildings then do it.
    It now time for St. Michaels, CP, Alleyne and Springer to get 6th Forms too.
    *****************************************
    Though Ms Griffith-Watson’s comments were harsh they were rooted in statistics. What is unfortunate is that she overlooked the fact that Springer excels in sports. This just shows the bias of the old stupid reactionaries that continue to run de show in Barbados.
    St. Leonard’s also has a good track record in Spanish.
    This is not time to be beating down our young people.

    Statistics aside, I always thought she was one conservative c_nt.
    ******************************************

    The other discussion on same sex schools needs statistical evidence. I dont see HC or QC doing any worse by virtue of being co-ed.
    But there’s still too much conjecture. Where’s the evidence.
    *******************************************

    I dont think Griffith-Watson should resign over her comments; but a public apology would be in order. It takes a an honorable person to do that. The principals already stated publicly that they were offended. Then she should apologize.
    Of course de stupid ugly minister is backing she up. Johnny he is!


  15. I am sick and tired of hearing our men say “my grandmother raised me well”

    My question always is “what was your father doing that was more important than raising you?”

    and “what are you doing that is more important than raising your son?”


  16. Most people in Barbados who occupy positions of authority are racists: they dont like black people and they discriminate against the majority of the barbadian population who are black. They also hate Barbados and everything Barbadian including its culture : music and food etc. These people gravitate to the North Atlantic cultures and way of doing things and frown upon things Barbadian and things Caribbean.

    Some of these people are WOMEN and herein lies the problem. Barbadian women are the repositories of all bad things that the slave masters practise against us: racism , class dinstinction and discrimination, elitism and hatred in general. Some of these women have attained positions of authority by going to University , not necessarily to improve Barbados but simply to work for more money. Some of them are selfish and self centred , hard and inflexible and contribute to the increasing stress in the workplace and elsewhere.

    I dont know if Doctor Wendy Griffith Watson is one of these women

    WOMEN ARE NOW THE GREATEST THREAT TO THE SURVIVAL OF MAN

    Take that statement anyway you want to . I dont expect anybody to agree with me under 20 years. 20 years from now somebody will then begin to see what I am saying to be realistic.

    Study ya head before you challenge me


  17. OUR BOYS ARE IN TROUBLE BECAUSE OF THE ADVANCEMENT OF WOMEN IN BARBADOS.

    LOOK AT THE STUPID DECISION TO PUT A PEDESTRIAN CROSSSING ON THE HIGHWAY BY PARKINSON SCHOOL


  18. Statististics what?

    If Springer and St. Leonard’s receives students who have on average done less well at elementary school – and note that I did not say in the 11+, because the truth is that for the most part the Springer/St. Leonard’s students were trailing their age mates all through elementary school – that say the students who go to HC and QC why is Ms. Griffith-Watson manipulating statistics to “prove” that these schools are failing?

    I fear that the truth is that Ms. Griffith-Watson herself DOES NOT UNDERSTAND the statistics collected by her Ministry.

    Ms. Griffith-Watson is paid very well to manage the Ministry. If by her statement it is EVIDENT that she does not understand her own statistics, my question is what are we paying her for?

    That said I congratulate the teachers/students/parents of Springer and St. Leonard’s many of whom continue to work hard and well and who struggle, sometimes successfully to rise above low expectations.

    But I expect better, much better, from our publicly PAID officials.


  19. I have to agree with you J.


  20. @ BU

    “Let us fix the damn cracks!”

    *******************************************

    It’s funny that generations of policians after Barrow cant seem to take it to the next level.

    Barrow did all the hard work and put in all the systems. All they really have to do is improve, reform and update. Could chrise man, wha so hard bout dah to do?

    It just requires decision-making. It hardly requires money.
    A new national computerized ID card is a decision.
    The new driver’s license was a decision.
    New sixth forms – a decision.
    Fixing de roads – a decision. (I cant believe dat politicians drive on these roads everyday).

    The lack of decision-making is one of the major hindrances to our development right now.


  21. Kay // September 5, 2008 at 9:15 am

    John
    In fact all over the world many people are complaining that co-ed is bad for the boys.
    Here is a true story for you, when I asked my daughter how she could beat the boys in her class in woodwork/metalwork, she stupsed and replied
    “Well all the boys want to do is walk round chosseling the girls.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Here is a list of the 942 top performing schools in the UK.

    The top two are coed.

    # 3 is boys only

    #4 and #5 are girls only

    http://www.independentschools.co.uk/resources/alist/is_alist_2005.php?order_is_alist=position

    In the top 20, 8 are coed, 6 are boys only and 6 are girls only.

    These results don’t mean girls and boys are doing the same subjects so the comparison is flawed.

    The sciences are regarded as traditionally male but here is what a survey for independent girls only schools says.

    It seems to indicate that as far as sciences and foreign languages are concerned, more girls will choose to do these subjects in girls only schools than in coed schools and it is felt this is so because of how these subjects are regarded, ie coed is bad for girls!!

    http://www.gsa.uk.com/datafiles/hostFiles/host-116/Maths%20Science%20&%20MFL%20research%20findings%20Nov%202004.pdf

    I think coed schools should work here if they work elsewhere.

    I am more concerned that the cause of the problems that is raised here is related to the standard of teaching and the falling standards in society.

    I wonder if coed is being used as a scape goat and there is a deeper issue to be addressed.

    Having said all this my gut tells me that coed in Barbados should not begin in the lower school, but again, if the stats in other countries say different, then I would have to say that they should work here too.

    Are our children, girls and boys motivated to try their best at school?


  22. Q
    So you know for a fact that a woman was behind putting that crossing there?


  23. The standard we had in our education system has been falling for many years.This year Guyana of all Caribbean countries has a student who top the CXC results & Trinidad & Tobago hve the the best results in CXC A’levels.We in Barbados still have the belief that our education system is still the best in the Cribbean.It is but we are not getting the desire results from the resources we put into education.Education & Health receive the largest sums of money in the government allocation of money in the yearly estimates.
    I remembered a survey was carried out and it indicated that nearly 55 % of all school leavers leave school on a yearly basis with out 1 single certificate.
    I believe that a comprehensive review of our education system must be undertaken as a matter of urgency.It has done us well in the past but I am not so certain if it is catering to needs of a changing and more dynamic world.Individuals and their personalities are not the major problems in education.We must get to the root causes.
    Ronald Jones is the Noel Lynch of the Democratic Labour Party.He is too pompous & arrogant.His style is a bit to combative and he needs to show a little more humility and compassion.I will agree that I do not think he is the best man for an important ministry like education.He doesn’t have the tact.He will create problems for the government with their education policy because I can see he will not get much assistance from his key personnel in the ministry..
    Minister Ronald Jones be humble learn from Patrick Todd my favourite DLP parliamentarian who I believe will make a better minister of education and try to be nice & cooperative.Your style is a turn off.


  24. Q You are right on the ball.I did not want to go that route but you are talking the gospel truth.The majority of black women want to look white or indian.That is why hairdressers,cosmetics shops that selling mock hair,straighteners,bleaches and all that junk are very successful in Barbados.
    Q in the early nineties when Mia Mottley was minister of education she wanted to introduce black studies to the curriculum.It received great resistance from the key senior public officers in the ministry at that time.The same Wendy Griffith-Watson,Idamay Denny,Ralph Boyce and others fought hard not to get that programme implemented.We know the results.
    Q I do not know if you know or understand the Willie Lynch Theory but that theory is prevalent in almost all black people in Barbados today.That is why the whites,the indians and now the chinese will dominate us.Check and see those clowns including the biggest clown in education Matthew Farley had to give in to wishes of the indians in Barbados.We have a standardised dress code for our children but Matthew Farley has allow the indians to modify that dress code on the grounsds of religious beliefs.I hope the same is done for Rastafari children.Mathew Farley takes pleasure in humiliating black people.Check he sent home 250 black people children from the Garrison School for little or no infraction of the dress code.He loves publicity.Matthew Farley must be stop from doing his nonsense. No wonder we have problems in education with idiots like Matthew Farley in critical positions.


  25. @ Negroman

    In fact the standard of education is quite low.

    Someone has done an excellent job at telling us how great the system is. And we believe it.


  26. I have a little oil to add to the fire.
    How come the students and parents get all the blame for the poorly fitting uniforms?
    The companies that make and market these uniforms should be held accountable. Is it fair that after parents spend so much money buying uniforms they should have to pay someone to remake them?


  27. One of the signs that civilization is at an end will be the ascension of women to more significant leadership positions in the worldsuch as the so-called leader of the free world and similar positions


  28. Negroman

    That is why hairdressers,cosmetics shops that selling mock hair,straighteners,bleaches and all that junk are very successful in Barbados.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Who do you think pays for these?

    … put another way, where does the money actually come from?


  29. Dr. Wendy Griffith Watson is elitist.She is one of the persons who will make sure that the status quo is maintained in education in Barbados.That is why poor people must never let the common entrance be replaced by the criterion reference method of placing students into secondry schools.Most poor children are discriminated aginst in the primary school by female teachers who think like Dr. Griffith Watson.They will operate in a subjective manner allowing the middle and upper class children to enter the preferred schools in the country.At this time some poor children excell in the 11 +because they are brillant and enter the preferred schools. Do not let Dr.Griffith Watson get away with this pious position that Springer and St.Leonards are the worst performing schools.Let her tell you why these schools get hundreds of students who need remediation,but there are no remedial teachers.These students leave primary school not being able to read.If you cannot read at 11-12 years, how can you compare those students at 16 years with HC and QC students.


  30. It has come to our attention that unrest is brewing at the Samuel Jackman Prescod Polyclinic once again. Rival groups/gangs have been engaging in skirmishes. Teachers in quiet protest have been teaching their classes and returning to the Staff Room.

    Apparently the Principal has been ignoring the problem.

    To whom it may concerned, be warned!


  31. J
    “This is a call for the men of Barbados to come HOME to their boys.”
    ———————————————————-
    J sweetheart; Do you think it could be the women that the men running from…..?


  32. Bush Tea

    That ball swung in the air, and then off de pitch!


  33. John

    The situation with Co-ed is a complex one.. It is not sufficient to compare the top schools, nor is it appropriate to compare schools here with England.

    Children at top schools tend to have higher levels of parental support (generally that is why they get to top schools)

    Two good parents can overcome many obstacles that would otherwise trap a child. Such support helps to counteract the negatives of a co-ed environment, so both co-ed and single sex schools perform relatively well at this level.

    Schools take on special importance where the family structure is fractured, as is often the case in Barbados. Without fathers at home (as J puts it), with teachers who would prefer to be elsewhere, with clueless officials in the ministry and with the added pressures of co-ed poor results are almost guaranteed.

    Having spent some time in England, I would suggest to you that there is a distinct difference in the level of sexuality between English and Bajan teens….. to the extent that I have no real problem with co-ed in England…. I will leave it at that.

    As to the low number of male teachers…?

    Few young men who value their reputation would dare to subject themselves to the dangers of interacting daily with the kind of young females currently populating our schools….

    …those who have ears to hear will hear…..


  34. GP
    …are you accusing Bush tea of pitching the ball in the rough? or was it a genuine googly?


  35. Bush tea wrote

    As to the low number of male teachers…?

    Few young men who value their reputation would dare to subject themselves to the dangers of interacting daily with the kind of young females currently populating our schools….

    =================================

    I understand that when co-ed was introduced in Barbados schools, this particular phenomenon caused many long serving male teachers to retire in haste.

    BT

    With respect to …are you accusing Bush tea of pitching the ball in the rough? or was it a genuine googly?

    I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD BALL!


  36. Bush Tea
    You hit the nail right on the head. Our modern day woman believes that she can do without a man and she is protraying that image to the children.They are shutting the men out of their business and in some cases including the child. what respect these children would have for a father? Sometimes these same children rebel, sometimes the girls become “man haters”, the boys either become lawless or start developing feminine tendencies. There has to be a mutual agreement between the man and the woman as to who is the head of the home. Until this is settled, the problem with boys and girls and the respect for each other will get worse. Why would some women married or single prefer to have Ms before their name? Does this meet “man sometimes?” I accredited my grandmother and mother for my upbringing because they were housewives while my grandfather and father were working hard, bringing home the money and the ladies were the economists. Today’s woman wants to be everything. That’s where the problem comes.


  37. GP
    A male teacher, who is about to retire, told me that where in the early days the staff that was almost all male would after school sit and chat. Today that is no more because the male staff is afraid to say anything about problems they are encountering because by next day the news is spread all over the school. Gossip has become the major fear among the now mainly female teaching staff. They even flag each other and many time a lot of them not speaking to each other. He said in early times the fellows would say the harshest thing about each other and it was taken in stride, today the slightest thing is blown out of proportion and you have an enemy for life. That’s why the men are moving away from teaching.


  38. Dr.Griffith Watson taught at Springer Mem.. She must know something…


  39. Dear Bush Tea:

    You wrote “J sweetheart; Do you think it could be the women that the men running from…..?”

    “It is not good for a man to be alone” Genesis

    The man should NOT be running from the woman. Men and women are natural companions. When a man runs from his woman and children, what does he run to? A man? No? To be alone? No. He runs to another woman. I do not know a single Bajan man who does not have a woman. If a man can live happily with Mary who is NOT the mother of his children, then he can LEARN to live happily with Mary who is.

    Parents are too impatient. Too prone to jumping over board when the sea is rough.

    In thier haste they sometims jump right into the mouth of a shark.

    Its 11:51 p.m. Are all men at home with their sons?

    If you do not love your son enough to stay to love and guide him nobody else will.

    Its your son. You enjoyed the big “O” now stay and mind the boy.

    Don’t expect the female teachers to do it. If they do not like you, why is it that you expect them to love your son?


  40. Spoken like a real woman J.

    True, It is NOT good for a man to be alone (Genesis), ….but it is better to live in a desert land that with a contentious and fretful woman. (Proverbs).

    Maybe now you could see why a man will not stay with his ‘son’ (because of the contentious and fretful mother), but runs after other women (because it is not good for a man to be alone).

    Unfortunately, it normally takes decades before a young man realizes that essentially most women are the same. (while he keeps on looking for that ‘virtuous woman who is worth more than rubies…).

    After a wasted lifetime of looking for a virtuous woman, most men resign themselves to alcohol, bitterness or some other vice.

    Even the wise Solomon and his father David fell into this woman trap, so it is hard for Bush tea not to sympathize with Bajan men.

    The problem of course is that contrary to Scout’s suggestion that men and women need to sit down and decide who is the head, the Big Boss Engineers who designed and created this whole earth project, DESIGNED the team relationship for men to need women; for women to need men; FOR MEN TO BE LEADERS; and for women to be indispensable partners.

    …if you take a top class computer, designed for use with 120 volts and insist on using it with 90 volts what results do you expect?

    Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life……

    J, show me a man that runs from such a woman and I will personally behead the idiot….LOL


  41. Bush tea // September 5, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    John

    The situation with Co-ed is a complex one.. It is not sufficient to compare the top schools, nor is it appropriate to compare schools here with England.

    Children at top schools tend to have higher levels of parental support (generally that is why they get to top schools)

    Two good parents can overcome many obstacles that would otherwise trap a child. Such support helps to counteract the negatives of a co-ed environment, so both co-ed and single sex schools perform relatively well at this level.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I think this is crucial point although I would say that the family is in trouble in the UK too.

    However, society is more controlled in the UK than here.

    I would lean to the argument that coed makes a bad situation worse.

    What do we have to do to fix the bad situation?

    Although it is an important indicator, it is wrong to measure the performance of a school by its performance at A levels only.

    I went down this line to demonstrate just how sterile the point made by the Ms. Wendy Griffith – Watson really was.

    … even the argument … because it works over and away it could work here is flawed.

    We have a unique set of circumstances which we need to address in our own unique way.

    Doesn’t mean we ignore what is going on outside just means we have to act to define and fix our problems.


  42. BT

    Men are fools but as the old people would say, “every fool has his own sense”!!


  43. This increasingly wayward DLP Government has made another terrible mistake in the eight months that it has so far been at the helm of the political and governmental affairs of this country. It has characteristically gone ahead wildly and irrationally brought greater chaos and disorder to the very essential and productive mass transit subsectors of the public transportation sector of the country. Before expounding on such, we shall let fellow bloggers know what in our estimation are these other gross and reckless mistakes that the DLP Government has made so far. And there are as follows :-

    1) The terminating of the contracts of some very outstanding consultants like the Mighty Gabby and Trevor Marshall that were recruited by the last BLP Government;

    2) The Prime Minister’s wrongful, destructive, and unnecessary increases in the local costs of fuel in April of this year; and

    3) The Prime Minister’s immorally vicious, cruel, and barbarous increases in TAXATION ASSAULTS on the backs of the masses and middle classes of people of this country in July of this year.

    However, with regard to this matter of bringing greater chaos and disorder to the mass transit ZR, Minibus and Transport Board subsectors of the wider public transportation sector of the country, this backward DLP Government has managed to achieve this sad state affairs through its near total lack of proper planning and coordination of the efforts surrounding this idea/policy of having free bus rides for school children in uniform et al on Transport Board buses in this country.

    While we are NOT in opposition to this idea and policy – and we have made this clear in our talks with other people in Barbados on this issue, we are mightily taken aback by the fact that this wayward DLP government has NOT brought a better set of partial albeit far-reaching solutions to the many problems that have long beset these particular mass transit sub-sectors.

    Of course, this DLP Government must be told in NO uncertain terms that the partial solutions to the still rampant indiscipline and loud and lewd music on some ZR and Minibuses do NOT lie in many owners and operators and conductors being SERIOUSLY disadvantaged by the extant harmful effects of this particular so-called Transport Board free-ride idea/policy. Nor will any partial solutions to the terrible long running financial and resources inefficience of the Transport Board be brought about on the basis of this said so-called free-ride idea/policy.

    Instead of searching for real and specific solutions to these problems and issues, this bunch of DLP misfits has therefore sought to further promote and deepen a divide and rule riff raff culture and ethos in regard of these particular mass transit sub-sectors of the country, by further putting private owners, operators and conductors of ZRs and Minibuses UP AGAINST the state owned Transport Board Government on the basis of this so-called Transport Board free ride idea/policy, even as it is seen that the Government wickedly and demonically continues ever so often to steal ( via TAXATION) great portions of the incomes of these people who own and operate ZRs and Minibuses in this country just to support its coffers, and even as it is seen too that the same government has allowed those people to use Transport Board facilities to get diesel at a lower “price”. What chaos and disorder!!!

    Meanwhile, this irresponsible group of DLP clowns continues to disregard, and some times frown on, the incessant pleas of owners, operators, and conductors and their representative bodies (apparently ONLY one now – Private Transport Operators Association of Barbados) for increases in bus fares, at a time when for them and thousands of others in this country the cost of living and the cost of doing business in Barbados have gone up. Look how silly it is therefore that this DLP Government continues TO REFUSE increases in bus fares at the behest of the far greater efficient ZR and Minibus sub-sectors , while at the same time it NOT ONLY allows the far less efficient Tansport Board sub-sector to give away so-called free rides to school children both in uniforms and out of uniforms up to 18 years BUT ALSO allows the Board to continue begging for subventions from central government year after year to help bail them out. What chaos and disorder!!!

    Finally, with all of this chaos and disorder existing within these particular mass transit sectors of the public transportation system of Barbados and with this joke DLP Government so disgustingly contributing to it, we in PDC have to wonder about the the validity of the utterance that was made sometime ago by the present Minister of Public Works and Transport, Mr. John Boyce, about his examining the idea of bringing the ZRs and Minibuses and the Transport Board together as one form of public tranportation for the country. What more choas and disorder are we seing!!!

    PDC


  44. When these schools like the so-called “newer secondary schools” get students that excel I congratulate them highly. these schools are given the less graded pupils and they are given the same syllabus as the high flyers and tested at the same time. Until we zone ALL schools, then we can’t compare. Mrs Watson should know this. Instead of condeming these schools she should encourage them and congratulate the students and teachers when the school gets some good grades.


  45. What did Trevor Marshall do as a consultant?


  46. Juris

    You are being picky!!


  47. Fewer men than women are in teaching because Barbadian society percieves teaching (like nursing) to be a job for women. A significant part of being a teacher, especially at the primary school level, is providing pastoral care. This is seen as “woman’s work”. We (the society) do not trust adult males with our children particularly female children (maybe with “good” reason?). I have even heard women say that they would not leave their child with the child’s father for any extended period (yet continue in a relationship with the man). Some women would not let a child’s father bathe the child, or tend to the child when it is sick or hug the child (but they want the “chile money”!) It is also true that many men are also happy with this arrangement as it allows them to abscond from what should be their responsibilities.

    We even see subjects as having a gender connection – Maths for boys, Languages for girls. Since most (if not all ) teaching and assessment of any subject is done through verbal interaction – speaking, reading, writing – is it any wonder that boys fall behind academically when they do not read, have a poor command of the spoken word except for the vernacular (which unfortunately is much too limited to allow access to the many fields of knowledge) and cannot write?

    What is the source of these problems? I have come to the conclusion that it is the socialisation of our people. A socialisation which is guided by a thoughtless, irrational and often incorrect interpretation of religious instruction and tradition. At a subconscious level, we attempt to maintain gender roles and behaviours designed for a nomadic, hunter-gatherer society existing 3000 years ago while having to live in a capitalist society with enormous technological influence.


  48. Dear BT:

    Dear BT:

    I will send you the name/address of a distant cousin – VERY DISTANT – who told me once that he loves a half-wutless woman. I was struck speechless and so was unable to ask him to explain himself further.

    I doubt that he is the only man so inclined.

    Happy beheading.


  49. John, I’m sorry. I guess my pickiness comes from the fact that I pay loud taxes monthly.


  50. @ Bush Tea

    Women are contentious and fretful for a reason, perhaps many reasons.

    @ J

    So what is wrong with BT wanting a half-wutless or preferably a whole wutless woman? Men want a lady out and a whore in. The sooner women in general understand that the better they will be able to keep their men at home.

    On the other side, BT, women would like a whore man in as well.

    A little more help with the housework, the children, more romance and foreplay with their men instead of the constant jukjuk, thank you maam.

    If they can get that, perhaps they would not get so nagnag and irritable with their mates, and their constant going outside and dealing with other much younger women who are looking strictly for money.

    This is not meant to be a sex lesson, but quite frankly, women are not built like men, and they require a lot more “attention”.

    and @ Juris or is it Equity

    What the hell is wrong with being picky?

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