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Source: BU Family member Adrian Hinds

We have NEVER published a speech on BU since our start-up. We have always tried to expressed our opinions on the many issues affecting our PEOPLE. However we have decided to make an exception in the case of the speech delivered by Attorney General Freundel Stuart in the just concluded Budget Debate. This is a speech which has come from a DLP politician who was thought by the BLP to not have been fully onboard the DLP train during the last general election. Our recollection is that he uttered some public statements which were very unflattering to then colleague David Thompson.

In light of the foregoing we agree with BU commenters who have been ‘turned-on’ by this contribution by Stuart. Our interest in the speech does not border on any partisan leaning, but more so what it represents. How a deep thinker like Stuart used words to emasculate the former Prime Minister, who not long ago strode the Lower House like a colossus.

The contribution of Attorney General Freundel Stuart to the gelling and molding of a new government will be critical as he takes on the role of elder in the young government. We enjoyed the speech delivered by Attorney General Stuart which was delivered with the flair to which some of us were accustomed from our 70’s parliament. These are troubling economic times, the knowledge that a man of deep thinking like our Attorney General sits in our cabinet is comforting . His demonstrated wisdom will be required.

Here is the speech compliments of the Advocate Newspaper:

I have listened to, with amused interest, to the Honourable Member for St. Peter who has delivered economic and policy statements in this Chamber for the last 14 years and as he spoke I kept asking myself if all that he was saying was true, what it was that the people of Barbados was dissatisfied about in the month of January.

What it was that they were dissatisfied about for the last three/four years in this country if all of these solutions were within his embrace. Are the people of Barbados stupid? Dont they know when they are feeling pain? Dont they know when a government has divorced itself from their interests? Dont they know when the policies of a government are inimical to their ideals? And I am prepared to err with the people of Barbados rather than to get swept along by all that I heard from the Member for St. Peter over the last half of an hour.

The most reassuring part of the Member’s speech was that no private citizen in this country had to fear tonight being abused from the floor of this Chamber. No Civil Servant had to endure today  although telephone calls were made over the last few days  any threats from the Member for St. Peter and for the very simple reason that he spoke in this Chamber tonight as a naked man, stripped down to the skin, of all of the arrogance and all of the hubris that the people of Barbados had to endure particularly over the last ten years.

He did not even speak in here tonight as a man with any special motivation to see the Democratic Labour Party never rule Barbados again. Even that was missing from the contribution which he made to this debate. And if there is any lesson in all of this it is that we should never forget the source of our power. We should always remember that power comes from the people. It is theirs to give and theirs to withdraw.

So tonight, this very lonely man stood up in this Chamber, can reach out and touch no one in Barbados really, not even anyone on his side of the House, because when I survey, not the wondrous Cross, but the Opposition benches, the Member for St. Michael North has no particular reason to love him since he had to throw a Cabinet position back in his face. He cannot expect the affection of the Honourable Member for St. Thomas since the Member for St. Michael North East has pre-empted that affection.

The Member for St. James North has been treated like a football, abused and insulted by the Member for St. Peter for the last ten years or so and I know whereof I speak; and although the Member for St. James North is perhaps the most rounded and most intelligent politician in the Barbados Labour Party, he has had to take insults and abuse from the Member for St. Peter for a good ten/twelve years and tonight sits in his seat a man of sorrow and acquainted with grief. The Member for St. George North, of course, is perhaps the only friend that the Member for St. Peter has on that side and for obvious reasons. Their habits are not dissimilar. Missing from his seat is the Member for St. Andrew.

Now I have to congratulate the Member for St. John because whatever else this Budget did not do, it certainly made the dumb to speak. So the age of miracles is not ceased. The Member for St. Andrew stood up in this Chamber today and made a full speech. But he too has been at the receiving end of the implacable ire and rage and spite in some cases, of the Member for St. Peter, and you know I dont think anybody in Barbados rejoices more than the Member for St. Andrew that the nakedness of the Member for St. Peter is now so cruelly exposed.

The Member for St. Joseph  well, he will follow anything. You dont have to bother about him. He will follow anything; but I know this: the Member for St. Michael North East, too, was at the receiving end of no small bit of undermining abuse, backstabbing from the Member for St. Peter. Again I know whereof I speak and the Member for St. Michael North East also knows whereof I speak. Politeness may make her nod her head to say no and I appreciate the politeness, but I know whereof I speak.

So tonight, what we saw in here was the unmasking of power and I hope that all Barbadians looking on, listening to this Debate would have learnt the lesson that he that humbleth himself shall be exalted but he that exalteth himself shall be abased.

Having said that Mr. Speaker, I think it bears reminding the country that the Government responsible for the Financial Statement and Budgetary Proposals for this year has been in office for 175 days today  175 days. And listening to the speeches coming from the other side, with the exception, of course, of the speech for the Member for St. Michael South East, one got the impression that all of the manifesto pledges of the Democratic Labour Party should have been satisfied in 175 days.

So, as the Member for St. Michael North East ended her 3 hour and 10 minutes speech, as she entered into her peroration  perhaps I should withdraw the word ‘peroration’, that word I think is reserved for speeches that are well structured and elegantly delivered. I should say as she entered into her perspiration, we heard how the policemen are not happy and the nurses are not happy and the teachers have been let down because the DLP has not fulfilled the promises it made in its manifesto  in 175 days!

We came to office on the 16th day of January 2008. There were just under 30 000 people in Barbados waiting on the National Housing Corporation [NHC] for either a house or a house spot. This Government is being chastised tonight and has been chastised ever since yesterday evening for not providing just under 30 000 houses or house spots to people in Barbados in 175 days!

When we came to office on the 16th of January, even using the figures relied on by us from the other side, there were about 50 000 people in this country trying to find jobs. Every single member on this side of the House knows that when you go to your constituency clinics that is what you hear about  jobs or houses or house spots. In 175 days the DLP in Government was supposed to provide 14 or 15 000 jobs.

When we came to office on the 16th January, the current account deficit was to the tune of about $485 million. This Government in 175 days was supposed to wipe out that deficit so that it could attract the praise and kudos of the Opposition. When we came to office, the inflation rate was about 4.4 %. We left office in 1994 with the inflation rate at 0.1%, came back and found it at 4.4% and we were supposed to, in 175 days, wipe out all of that so that the other side of the House could stand up and say how great a Government the Democratic Labour Party was. Can all of this be for real? O judgement thou art fled to brutish beast and men has lost their reason.

But the speech of the Member for St. Michael North East, which was the leading speech delivered on that side of the House, lasted 3 hours and 10 minutes and if I have to confess, I am entitled to an opinion like any other Barbadian, I thought it was a very childish speech and that is a trajectory on which I cannot make contact with the Member for St. Michael North East.

I have always tried my best never to forget how to be childlike but I frown on bringing childishness this far into my adulthood. That is why, with apologies to St. Paul, I have always felt able to quote that famous passage in his Corinthian letter: When I was a child I spake as a child, understood as a child and thought as a child, but now that I am become a man I have put away all childish things.

“That is perhaps the fundamental distinction between the Member for St. Michael North East and myself, because even though she may have become a man, she has not yet put away all childish things.

Now the policy of the Government revolves around two concepts: the concept of family and the concept of social care. You cannot understand what is contained in the Financial Statement and Budgetary Proposals for 2008 unless you understand and can relate the concept of family and the concept of social care. For the last 14 years we have had to listen to a politics rooted in arid arithmetic that really had very little to do with the hot immediacies of peoples’ everyday lives.

What the DLP has tried  and it doesnt even have to try because this has been our policy ever since the inception of the DLP  was to restore politics to its human dimension where we can get back to the use of power, not to satisfy abstractions, but to deal with the real concerns of actual men and women.

We start from the position that in any post-colonial society you have to deal with an inheritance, a social contradiction, an economic contradiction, an inheritance of colonialism and in all post-colonial societies, certainly the ones in the Caribbean  and it still manifests even in the great United States of America  the subject peoples and, in the case of the Caribbean the subject peoples are the majority, the demographic majority in the society is at one and the same time not just a numerical majority but it is also an economic and sociological minority; and the demographic minority is an economic and sociological majority.

That is a fact of life in all post-colonial societies in this region, whether the colonising power was the French, the British, the Spanish or whoever. That is the reality in the Caribbean and in Latin America as well. And public policy therefore has to target the vulnerable wherever the vulnerable can be found.

For the last 14 years we have had a version of economics  I dont call it economics. I call it arithmetic which started from the position that as long as you fatten people from the top there would be a spillover and people at the bottom would necessarily get the crumbs from their table the so-called trickle down variable of economics. I believe the liberal economist J.K. Galbraith put it beautifully when he said that trickle down economics is another way of saying that if you want to give the birds more feed you have to give the horse more oats. And that is really what has governed Barbados for the last 14 years.


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97 responses to “Attorney General Fruendel Stuart Emasculates Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur with Just Words”


  1. Beautiful words and beautiful phrases immaculately strung together and delivered with flair and panache no doubt. But you must explain to us where you think the deep thinking is demonstrated.


  2. “That is perhaps the fundamental distinction between the Member for St. Michael North East and myself, because even though she may have become a man, she has not yet put away all childish things.
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    In the 1970’s we had great speakers, Errol Barrow, Cameron Tudor, Mencea Cox, Grantley Adams et al, and none of them would have used such derogative language to substantiate a point. Remember the frog, “sport for you is death for me” We need to rise above this level.


  3. @TMW

    Rubbish!

    Politicians have always been very harsh to themselves when they feel so to do. It is as old as the hills.


  4. The words (Lapdog media} were used by the blogging community regarding newspapers who become the marketing rag for a political party. During the rein of the last administration the Old Lady in Fontabelle had the audacity to bring ‘front page’ comments accusing the then opposition party. The languages were like needles, piercing the integrity of the DLP and accusing the leader left right and centre. But alas, the losers are now the victors and the said lapdog media is now glamouring in the spot light. The click of the cameras has been programmed to hype the simplest moves by the new rulers. Articles are now a part of the daily diet on the unsuspecting readers. I now have to ask why the change or should we say you love the King new clothes.. You bring the PM’s budget unedited. You failed to bring the opposition’s article, you failedto bring Arthur’s speech. But you can bring the AG’s speech. But again you said’ this is my edrdxxxx paper.


  5. @TMW

    We prefer to welcome the change in Fontebelle instead of dwelling on why the change because we all know the answer.

    Show us the link to the Opposition’s reply and we will insert the link on BU!


  6. Politicians have always been very harsh to themselves when they feel so to do. It is as old as the hills.
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    Have you ever heard Barrow call anyone negative sexual names.

    The great Cammie Tudor was purported to be strange, but no one got on a platform and make any remarks, furthermore Parliament was a no-no to espouse such language. Don’t fool the public that the behaviour from Stuart should be accepted as simple intellectual tete a tete. I am not amused.


  7. Tell Me Why

    I’m with you in characterizing your quotation from Freundel Stuart’s speech as being in bad taste but I agree with David that such is the norm with politicians of all stripes.

    Cammie Tudor was lambasted in and out of the House and I have heard one well known Platform speaker making explicit and quite odious sexual allegations about Barrow’s sex life (without being sued) on the platform. I also understand that Owen Arthur has not been above making such remarks with a prominent DLP politician being the butt of such “wit”.

    I agree that such “gutter” politics should be a thing of the past but as long as politicians feel that they can score points that may pay dividends at the ballot there will continue to be such talk.

    But, back to the substance of Mr. Stuart’s outstanding presentation,

    David; Where and what was in it that made it so outstanding? What was so outstanding about pointing out the changed circumstance under which Owen Arthur was now addressing the house and interacting with his BLP and DLP colleagues? Where were Stuart’s in depth insights into the dire circumstances which we now face? Where were his unique explanations and expansion on the measures taken in the budget that would allow us to all see that they were inescapable measures that will ultimately benefit, if not all of us, at least the have-nots in the society?

    Why did you single out his speech for special treatment?


  8. S t i n k i n g BU lapdog.

    Fruendel Stuart… another ugly stupid DLP bitch.


  9. When will the DLP declare their assets?

    F-ing LIARS and FRAUDS!

    We can smell your desperation, you filthy BU yardfowl.


  10. Freundel’s speech set the tone for the return of our parliament as a place were great debates and speeches occur. In thirty minutes he reminded Barbadians of the little talked about, disunity in the BLP, he reminded people and his fellow politicians from whence power cometh, and i think his use of the Owen Arthur’s position, behaviour, pre and post election served that purpose very well. He didn’t have to deal with Owen assessment of the budget who to mind suggested that it was a good budget, but could have been better. He frame the oppositions main reasons for opposing the budget in simple but effective terms. He did so by reminded us what inflation was in 1994 when they left office and what it is in 2008 on assuming office again. He also framed the economic approach of the last government by referring us to the concept of trickle down economics. He reminded us of what type of government the DLP intends to be, that the arguments against the DLP from the BLP doesn’t hold water given their 14 years and the DLP’s 175 days.

    In thirty minutes Fruendel gave me several points that i can develop with much detail to get the essence of what a full speech from him would most likely deal with. It was a great summery of likely great speech. Was Mia speech childish? think about it. what part of her delivery can any of you remember? It certainly did not have anything to do with why they were all gathered in parliament.

  11. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    Tell me Why, We must tell you that not many of care if you are annoyed or not, the fact of the matter is that Mr Stuart brought you, the BLP, mottley, arthur and the remainder of the has beens in Parliament to their knees it was aclass act delivered with tremendous flair and style.

    It was one of the best contributions it rates as highly as the PM’S , Denis Lowe, Chris Sinckler, Donville Innis, Denis Kellman, James Paul, Adriel Brathwaite, Steven Lashley, Kenny Best, John Boyce, David Estwick, George Hutson, Esther Byer Suckoo, Patrick Todd, Richard Sealy, Steve Blackett, Michael Lashley, Hammy Lashley, if you got the message each speaker that spoke on behalf of the DLP were fantastic and enlightened and sharp, no much that we can say about about any of the contributions of the BLP bench the leader was sickly poor and it never got better.

  12. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    Another one bites the dust with the VECO / FBI investigation, I am very happy to see that the FBI continue to gather these scamps and lead them to the prison it is wonderful to know that the FBI are actively going after those that were part of VECO and their fraud and that OWING ARTHUR and HALLAM NICHOLLS cannot rest as they to have questions to answer to our Gov’t and the FBI.

    LOCK THEM ALL UP.

    Cowdery indicted on corruption charges
    Anchorage Republican charged with conspiracy and bribery in Veco case

    By LISA DEMER
    ldemer@adn.com

    Nearly two years after the FBI raided his office, state Sen. John Cowdery was indicted on conspiracy and bribery charges.

    The Anchorage Republican is accused of scheming with Veco Corp. executives to buy the vote of another senator in the battle for an oil tax favored by North Slope oil producers.

    According to the 16-page indictment, Cowdery and others conspired in 2006 to give another senator $25,000, characterized as campaign contributions. The indictment was handed up by a grand jury Wednesday and filed in U.S. District Court on Thursday.

    Cowdery was not arrested. He’s been summoned to appear in U.S. District Court in Anchorage on Aug. 11.

    Cowdery will fight the charges, said his attorney, Kevin Fitzgerald of Anchorage.

    “Senator Cowdery will be exonerated, and this will be exposed for the mistake it is,” Fitzgerald said in a written statement.

    “We believe that in the indictment the government has seriously misinterpreted the few comments made by Senator Cowdery and has exacerbated the problem by presenting short snippets of conversation out of context,” Fitzgerald said.

    Gov. Sarah Palin called for Cowdery to resign.

    “It was disturbing to learn that another public official has been charged with violating the public trust. I urge Senator Cowdery to step down, for the good of the state,” Palin said.

    At 78, Cowdery is the oldest member of the Alaska Legislature. Until January, he was chairman of the powerful Rules Committee. He has been in poor health. He isn’t running for re-election this year.

    The indictment identifies the senator whom Cowdery was trying to influence only as “State Senator A.” Fitzgerald said that person is Donny Olson, D-Nome, who in 2006 was running for lieutenant governor and looking for campaign funds.

    The document describes a series of phone calls as well as a June 25, 2006, breakfast meeting. Olson, Cowdery and Veco chief executive Bill Allen met at the old Sunshine Grill in Anchorage, Olson’s lawyer, Paul Stockler of Anchorage, said Thursday.

    ADVERTISEMENT

    Olson didn’t want to talk about the case against Cowdery in detail on Thursday but said he is cooperating in the investigation.

    “If there is corruption out there, those people need to be held responsible,” Olson said.

    Olson has been cooperating with the FBI and federal prosecutors for about a year, Stockler said. He testified to a federal grand jury in June and has been interviewed maybe a half dozen times about the events covered in the indictment, and confirmed a transcript of the June breakfast, Stockler said.

    Olson has no assurance that he won’t be prosecuted, but Stockler said it appears highly unlikely that he will be.

    “I don’t believe Donny Olson did anything wrong,” Stockler said. Olson never received the $25,000.

    A SERIES OF PHONE CALLS

    Cowdery and Olson are among six state legislators whose offices were searched by the FBI on Aug. 31, 2006, the event that broke into the open a bribery scandal that has shaken Alaska’s political establishment.

    Allen and Veco vice president Rick Smith pleaded guilty to bribing legislators to push through the oil tax supported by North Slope producers, and admitted in court papers that Cowdery was part of the conspiracy.

    Two former legislators, Pete Kott of Eagle River and Vic Kohring of Wasilla, are serving federal prison sentences after being convicted on corruption charges related to the push for the tax. A third former legislator, Bruce Weyhrauch of Juneau, is awaiting trial.

    The new indictment covers a series of phone calls that began in March 2006 and also the June 2006 breakfast. The FBI had wiretaps on Allen’s and Smith’s phones. They are not named in the Cowdery charging document, but Fitzgerald confirmed that they are the unnamed executives cited.

    During 2006, legislators haggled over a new way to tax oil companies that would bring in more state revenue during times of high oil prices. Veco was pushing a 20 percent tax rate proposed by the Murkowski administration to help promote construction of a natural gas pipeline from the North Slope. Others wanted a higher rate.

    According to the new indictment, in a March 30, 2006, telephone call, Cowdery told Smith they needed the support of legislators on the Senate Finance Committee, including Olson. He and his wife were “pretty good friends” with Olson. They could get together socially and talk about where Olson stood, Cowdery told Smith.

    Later, on June 20, 2006, Smith twice told Allen in a phone call that the only leverage Veco had to change votes on the tax was by making campaign contributions and hosting fund-raisers.

    Then, the charges say, on June 22, 2006, Smith told Cowdery “gotta have some votes here.” Smith said company executives would help Olson if he would “step up to the plate,” according to the indictment.

    Cowdery said he had told Olson, “Maybe we can buy some gasoline,” the indictment says. “You know, he’s got planes,” Cowdery told Smith. A doctor and pilot, Olson owns Olson Air Service Inc.

    “Yeah. Yeah,” Smith answered.

    “That’d be pretty easy and clean,” Cowdery said.

    Smith said the company didn’t “have a problem gettin’ some checks to (State Senator A) … if he can come through on this PPT … and the gas line,” according to the indictment. The tax was called the Petroleum Profits Tax.

    Cowdery said he’d tell Olson, the charges say.

    “Okay. I mean this is — you know, I mean this is, ah, come to Jesus time,” Smith said.

    In another phone call, according to the charges, Cowdery told Allen that he had let Olson know he could probably get Olson some campaign money, but Olson would have to vote for the tax and the gas line. Cowdery said that Olson answered that he had no problem with that, the charges say.

    THE BREAKFAST MEETING

    On June 25, 2006, Cowdery, Allen and Olson met over breakfast at the Sunshine Grill, which used to be the restaurant next to the Moose’s Tooth. They didn’t know that a couple of FBI agents were in the next booth with a video camera. Stockler described that scene, based on evidence shown to him and Olson.

    Over breakfast, Cowdery told Olson that he needed to go along with Cowdery and two other legislators. One was identified in the charges only as State Senator B. Fitzgerald said that was then-Senate President Ben Stevens. The other wasn’t identified at all.

    Olson said he needed to get through the primary battle for lieutenant governor, the charges say.

    Allen asked him how much money he needed.

    “I don’t know,” Olson answered, according to the indictment. “I’ve got $100,000 of my own … but I may fall short, and that’s why I haven’t had a fund-raiser because I’ve got all this other stuff I’m trying to organize.”

    “Well, I think the way (company CEO) could do that is by check. Probably the best way for everybody,” Cowdery said, according to the indictment.

    “There are a couple of issues I can certainly help you out on. But I gotta be real careful on some of the other ones,” Olson said.

    “So you need … some money here pretty quick?” Allen asked Olson. Olson nodded that he did.

    Olson then asked Allen, “How much are you good for?”

    “What?” Allen answered.

    “How much are you good for?”

    “Oh, we can probably go 25,” Allen answered.

    “That’s a good start,” Olson answered, according to the charges.

    Later in the meeting, the indictment says that Cowdery told Olson that “I think we can make this work if you vote the way me and (State Senator B) were to vote when we get down (to Juneau).”

    Olson said if they had 11 votes in the Senate and 21 in the House, “I’ll be there with you,” according to the charging document.

    Later that day, Ben Stevens told Allen on the phone that if Olson got money for his campaign, “We might be able to keep him … as a player,” according to the charges. Two days later, Stevens talked to both Cowdery and Olson multiple times, the charges say. Stevens has denied that he did anything wrong.

    Olson lost in the August primary to Democrat Ethan Berkowitz.

    No Veco fund-raiser ever occurred; the money wasn’t pursued after the meeting, Fitzgerald said.

    “Our understanding was that while Senator Cowdery was present at this breakfast meeting on June 25, 2006, more than two years ago, he made more comments about the ham being served than he did about the discussion between Allen and Olson,” Fitzgerald said in his statement.

    LEGISLATORS REACT

    Thursday morning in Juneau, legislators were anxiously trying to get information on the criminal charges against one of their colleagues. Cowdery wasn’t there, although he attended the legislative session on Wednesday. His office was locked and dark.

    Copies of the indictment were made, and lawmakers were seen walking with them in hand.

    The Senate leadership appeared shaken initially, but later Senate President Lyda Green talked about the scandal involving a member of her coalition.

    Green said Cowdery shouldn’t step down. She called him a friend and noted his years in the Legislature, his frail health, his recent absences, the few months he has left to serve. He is part of her leadership team.

    “We have a man who has served many years, at the end of his career. I would just hope people would step back and be very thoughtful about that,” Green said.

    It’s been rare for a sitting state legislator to be charged with corruption in Alaska. Kohring was the third and Cowdery is the fourth.

    If convicted, Cowdery faces a penalty of up to 10 years in prison on the bribery count and a maximum of five years for conspiracy.

    Charges against Cowdery

    COUNT 1: Conspiracy to commit bribery and extortion. Prosecutors allege Cowdery conspired with executives of oil services company Veco Corp. to bribe state Sen. Donny Olson of Nome to keep oil taxes from going too high.

    COUNT 2: Bribery. Prosecutors allege Cowdery offered to bribe Olson in exchange for his vote on the oil tax legislation

  13. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    TELL ME WHY

    “The great Cammie Tudor was purported to be strange, but no one got on a platform and make any remarks”

    You must be new to political platforms in Barbados.

    On many, many ocassions I heard “Eric Fly” speak the worst things about Cameron’s sexuality.

    We all know that “Eric Fly” held almost all his political meetings in favour of the BLP. What they felt that they could not say themselves they got “Eric Fly” to say on their behalf.

    The AG’s contribution was lovely, my entire family enjoyed it, especially my wife.


  14. We thought we highlighted our interest in the speech in the blog.

    At the top of the list, Stuart was singled out as a man who was deeply opposed to Thompson during the election campaign. His speech which he used according to the Advocate to strip Arthur naked is symbolic. He attacked the former king Arthur with a rabid delight which has put that discussion to rest. Opposition Mia Mottley does not have that argument to use now. Some very craft and subtle arguments which have occured.

    On the issue of debates in the House of Assembly one had to visit parliament to hear the debates in those days. Barbadians were only fortunate to hear debates at Budget time or some special occasion. Today we hear the debates so frequently that many Barbadians now take them for granted.


  15. The AG has “cleverly” use language to hint at but not specifically direct. It is the readers/listeners own thoughts that give an interpretation in this case.

    If the reader/listener thinks of the words literally there is no offence. The word “man” can be used in a generic sense.

    If the reader/listener has a preconceived impression of the person addressed, it is that impression which comes into focus.

    There is no one who is literally now a man and was a female before, or the reverse.

    Our own thoughts have taken over and directed our thinking. It could be that is what the AG intended but it could be otherwise. The writers “voice” is paramount here it is that voice we should listen to; we cannot accuse him because of our thoughts. His words are on purpose not explicit enough.

    In context, variety, substance and the general public’s emotional release, it was relevant and brilliantly executed.


  16. It was a speech intended to let Owen Arthur know that the Lord giveth and he also taketh away. It was a breath of fresh air to hear Prime Minister Thompson wrapping up the budget debate without attacking citizens . I will never ever forget Owen Arthur attacking Irene Sandiford-Garner. That was one of the lowest times in our political history. I am sure during his lonely times he will reflect on that day. A person’s subconscious can be a bitch.


  17. A very withering speech and for some, very effective political theatre. However, shall debates in Parliament become opportunities to engage in veiled references to the presumed sexual orientation of politicians to satisfy the public’s love for salacious gossip? Mr Stuart (along with Mr Jones and Mr Sealy) may rue the day when this pandora’s box was opened.


  18. All the blp sympathisers and supporters cannot handle the heat when it is turned on them.

    Not a pimp squeaked when arthur destroyed people’s character and good name in that same very hallowed chamber.

    They didn’t see any thing wrong with that sufficient for them to come out on these blogs and make the same outcry.

    Now these very blogs who Mia tried to ban,are being overtaken by these BLP pimps – posting under multiple names to give the impression that there is a deluge of support out their for their point of view.

    However freundel stuart who was as usual at his most eloquent best hit them for six.

    The timimg of his speech right after arthur tried in a very lacklustre way to portray himself as the grand old statesman of the house – had the maximun effect.

    It silenced arthur and those on the other side and reminded barbadians that arthur is no decent ,graceful elderly politician – but a scoundrel and a thief and a very vindictive,spiteful person.

    The BLP is hoping that bajans indeed got ‘short memory’ and will soon forget the tiefing and the mess that they left this country in and for david thompson to clean up.

    Their concern was not about people – but about building highways and office blocks and boardwalks.

    They will be forever condemned in the annals of barbadian political history,and our children and grandchilren must be reminded and never be allowed to forget how owen arthur and his bunch of goons tried to wipe out our heritage and our people by opening up the floodgates to guyanese indians and chineese and other nationalities.

    May they never see the corridors of power for a very long,long,long time.

  19. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    And now we have a respected trustworthy leader that stands tall among world leaders.


  20. Isn’t language a wonderful thing? So many interpretations of what the good man said. And then there is HIS interpretation which we may never know. The speech has served its purpose to deflect Arthur’s contribution. This is the craft of debate at its finest.

    To those commenters who have expressed concern about how MPs intimate to the sexual interest of colleagues, the fact that it is practiced by both sides should deflate the argument that it is a DLP practice alone. Of interest to BU is the infatuation with sex and particularly homosexuality when members seek to flavour their contributions.

    Perhaps the politicians know something which the people know. Barbados is a small place and the likes and dislikes of Barbadians no doubt are known to politicians. So who will walk the talk and talk the talk?

  21. Darnley L. Pinder Avatar
    Darnley L. Pinder

    @David
    Stuart was opposed to thompson he itemised his reasons for his oposition in his manifesto when he was runnig for presidency of the party. And ironically the quote about when he was a child and doing childish things he used it about Thompson.

  22. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    His reference to Mottley being a man was interjected so smoothly it was a master shot now Chris was more funny when he said he was scared to hear her say that she liked him because we all know of her oral skills.

    I cannot think of any reason why Mottley should be offended when by her own doing and her own manner she exhibits the manner and the style of a man and goes out of her way to keep her female lesbian friends in check by beating them unmercyfully.

    If she goes down this road what then should she expect from the public, not love, no at all she should expect scorn and resentment, we cannot be accepting of a person of her ilk in a position of authority and power in this country.

    I have said before that I would not be at all surprised for her to go to a fat farm drop about 200 lbs lasso a man wrangle him to the alter, have a A I produce a child within the next two years, such is her greed for power that she will stop at nothing to gain it, but knowing that her trait of being a vicious woman beater and abuser will prevent her from gaining the one thing that she is most wanting of is POWER.

    When even now in her throw out stage of her political life she still is of the view that she can try to throw around power and control over people is really amazing.

    As recently as Wednesday is but yet another example of gross misuse of misguided half ass power, when she looked around the gallery and found Norman Barrow of A and B music supplies watching the debate in the House of Assembly she formed the conclusion that he was there as a DEM and in support of the DEMS, how wrong she was he was there as a visitor and as the person who installed the PA system in Parliament, however by the next day she had given instructions to Dobad the idiot to cancel the job for providing the sound system at an event being held by the BLP this weekend.

    There is a clear devide between the thinking and operation of the DLP versus that of the blp, the DLP are not nearly half as ruthless and cunning as the blp, they allow Diplomats to stay on in official residences overseas after a change in Gov’t, this is so unlike the blp who are documented to have given decent honest people 24 hours to leave the country, as those that served in the USA would know what it was like to have the CIA arrive at your childrens schools and remove them from schools, the torture and sadness that such an event can cause is irrepairable and it leaves a lasting impression on the minds of young children, the blp were always and will always continue to be heartless rogues and moraless rebels.

    Thankfully the Barbadian people have elected a respected trustworthy leader that stands tall among world leaders.


  23. @Anonymous

    While you may take comfort in the fact that the DLP surrogates have ruled the blogs and other electronic fora we don’t. A breathing democracy must be able to embrace all and sundry. The fact that the BLP did not do it effectively is certainly no reason for BLP supporters to be attacked with the relish which we saw levied on Ian Walcott by DLP supporters. Despite what his political affiliation the BU household feels that he adds value to the debate. The fact that a high level of vitriol was targets at the young man is source of concern to BU. What it tells us is that we have some work to do.

    Barbados is 21×14 and we will need all of our people to confront the challenges ahead.

  24. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    I received a text this morning in it I was asked if I knew or could find out or if I could ask Owing if over his 14 years in officeif all of his Per Diems when he travelled went in Rum?
    We are thinking that might have saved some for a rainy day, guess based on his declared value he was not wise enought to have saved some.

    Then we thought maybe it went towards his divorce settlement but then we we have received so many mixed signals on this score by his statement of accounts it would be hard to pay his wife the $ 3.5 MILLION that he and her have settled on if he resorces are so meger, so no wonder it is still said to be unfinished business and she is still unpaid this was current up to 3 weeks ago as Beverly made this known to a person in the DLP cabinet, his attempt to be statesman like was blown out of the water if one realises what he attempted to achieve here with his statement of affairs.

  25. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    David when one such as Ian Walcott can be so stupid to openly declare that if Mr David Thompson were ever to become the leader of this country he would leave the island, it displays a level of stupidity that I have no time for, also do not hide behind half truths and expect to see seen as neutral when you are a raving supporter as he is.

    Neither do I like or have any time for his vile comments on your blog there is no need to slip into nasty language we are a more mature species than that.

    We never did hear the names of the companies he setup here to filter the ill gotten gains thru, I would love to learn who were the legal people that worked on his behalf, I would not be surprised to find a Mottley’s name involved somewhere in the scam.


  26. if you got the message each speaker that spoke on behalf of the DLP were fantastic and enlightened and sharp,
    ……………………………………………………………………..
    Here we are gloating about a fantastic speech based on sweet language just to insult someone and the partisan supporters in the audience clapping away without realising that his speech was missing the pain that our people will be going through from August 1. Creative speeches shout be intersperse with positive ideas mixed with a little humour (not insults) that will help connect the speaker to his audience.

    Now to WIV. If you can listen to a whole debate and you can only say one party was good is the behaviour of a partisan, one-sided, bias, prejudice, preconception with a one-way brain.

    Now go your way my friend.


  27. David

    Are you sure your comments should be directed at me?

    Nothing in my post at 8:34 a.m. point to gloating that ‘the DLP surrogates have ruled the blog and electronic fora’ – so to whom are you referring?

    My post commented on the fact that when owen arthur got up in parliament and destroyed innocent person’s character none of the blp supporters got on the blogs and protested as they are doing now over freundel Stuart’s comment.

    Moreover when Mia Mottley threatened to ban blogs and other discussion talk shows – again we didnot see any persons who were blp sympathisers protesting this comment.

    So I don’t know about any DLP supporters ruling the blog – my reading of it tells me that both blp and dlp supporters were on the blogs – but that there were a lot of independent bloggers posting who were fed-up and angry with the actions and arrogance of the past administration.

    With regard to Ian Walcott I initially supported his right to post as he thinks (and still do), and the fact that he was brave enough to use his name – however I got increasingly turned off by his getting personal with current government ministers and other persons talking about their table manners,and false doctorate etc – which to me showed a level of small mindedness and pettiness.

    I didn’t think persons should be personal with him – just as I think he needed to exercise some restraint in that area too.

    You seem to have gotten it all wrong today David.


  28. The A-G, F. Stuart, is an intelligent, highly educated man, a philosopher; but what I found to be so distasteful, was rather than attempting to counter and refute Owen Arthur’s economic advise, which made reasonable sense, Stuart resorted primarily to using ‘Ad Hominem’ attacking the man’s character, rather than dealing with the ‘substance’ and essence of what Arthur tried to bring over.

    Of course, being well aquainted with ‘Philosophy’ rather than seeking to rebute Arthur’s sound argument on economic policy, Stuart used prideful, hubris (pride), laced in all kinds of rhetoric, as did the Greek orators in biblical times, who prided themselves in possessing ‘persuasive words of wisdom’ just like Stuart, and it was their practice to persuade a crowd, just like Stuart, of any side of an issue for the right price.

    They did NOT base their persuasion on rational considerations, as (Arthur) did, but on speaking ability, like (Stuart) did, thus bypassing the issues of substance.

    Unfortuantely, this is essentially what Stuart did, and he did it very well, philosophically persuasive, but totally lacking in any real substantive rebutal of Arthur’s sound economic reasoning.

  29. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    No my friend I also was full of praise for one of your members on that side the speaker was Mr Hammy Lashley, do not consider him a BLP sitting member because I said that he made a wonderful speech indeed but you seemed to have missed my point, it was that Mr Hammy Lashley was a sitting BLP member and his speech was excellent now if you do not consider him a BLP member that is another matter.

    It was one of the best contributions it rates as highly as the PM’S , Denis Lowe, Chris Sinckler, Donville Innis, Denis Kellman, James Paul, Adriel Brathwaite, Steven Lashley, Kenny Best, John Boyce, David Estwick, George Hutson, Esther Byer Suckoo, Patrick Todd, Richard Sealy, Steve Blackett, Michael Lashley, Hammy Lashley, if you got the message each speaker that spoke on behalf of the DLP were fantastic and enlightened and sharp, not much that we can say about about any of the contributions of the BLP bench the leader was sickly poor and it never got better.

  30. Wishing In Vain Avatar
    Wishing In Vain

    Carlos If this is the result to show after after 14 years in office, we have a number of questionable contracts, cost over runs in the multi millions, corruption and what ever else they managed to come up with, and you are suggesting to me that we seek Arthus input to our financial direction think again my friend his methods are corrupted and very badly arranged.


  31. @Anonymous

    We are so sorry to disappoint you Sire!

    We have read thousands of comments since the start of BU which have referred to former Prime Minister, now Leader of the Opposition, former Minister of Health and the Environment Liz Thompson and the list goes on from the BLP side and equally on the DLP side, where commenters got personal and engage in the most low language.

    Now you are telling me that commenters have learned the error of their ways and decided to make Ian the whipping boy because he dared to do the same thing?

    Mind you we believe that intelligent people should be able to debate without the foul language but we are not that naive.


  32. I will continue to comment on whom and whatever i please, and frame my arguments my way and use whatever language i care too. I had no idea that the level of entitlement in Barbados was so entrenched, that persons yet unknown, would seek to tell others what and how they should say whatever, and seek to do so using all manner of silly emotional arguments. I cannot see their success can you? Schuupppsssse

    Now let me see from whence i left off and need to pick up.

    Freundel, Mia is not a man no way no how. She may sound like and may have looked the part of a man, by way of dress, but that does not make her one. I would further add that the term “intersex” which is use to define An organism that may have biological characteristics of both the male and female sexes, isn’t suited to her either. Some have been known to intersperse hermaphrodism into some conversations about Mia, and i have to say that when i look at what it defines, we do not know such to be the case and therefore it is not applicable to her.

    I fully expect that when she announce her marriage to Ian Walcott and they produce their first child, straight out of a Chinese adoption agency, that all this nonsense, all this speculation, nastiness, and innuendo will cease.

    Hermaphrodite
    The terms hermaphrodite and pseudohermaphrodite, introduced in the 19th century, are now considered problematic as hermaphrodism refers to people who are both completely male and completely female, something not possible.[7] The phrase ‘”ambiguous genitalia’” refers specifically to genital appearance, but not all intersex conditions result in atypical genital appearance


  33. not true
    WIV
    not true
    your last post on BLP
    AND DIPLOMATS
    check the facts -oh dear!


  34. blind DLP apologists such as Adrian Hinds feel that everything DLP do is right, there is nothing to be criticize. for crying out loud , we are dealing with human beings and the DLP cant be all right

    stop the bias partisan crap ADRIAN HINDS -YOU AND YOUR BLIND political cohorts who comment on this blog. stop the crap. there is always room for improvement -the PM is not GOD, the DLP members and supporters are not angels so be more objective.


  35. Owwee, owwee, owwaah, see them fighting for power, but they know not the hour. The Barbados public has been ambushed in broad daylight. THESE MINIONS ARE SERVING AT THEIR MASTER’S BEHEST and the public has been stripped naked. Every 4/5 years opposite sides of the same con game is put on the table for the public to feast on, the public in its excitement with hunger, dives in to feed on nothing but scraps. Call me idealistic, but if both parties are acting in the interest of the public, why can’t they unite for the benefit of the people. In parLIEment they parade their feign contempt for each other while they are lining their pockets and then have the gall to flaunt those same fat pockets in your face. Ambush in broad daylight.


  36. I am tempted like the uniniatiated and unenlightened to say that I dislike these persons but i know that it is not that you hate people but it is that you do not like their attitude so I will say

    I do not like the attitude and style of the following members of parliament:

    Freudel Stuart
    David Thompson
    Mia Mottley
    Chris Sinkler
    Richard Sealy
    Ronald Jones
    Michael Lashley
    David Estwick

    I love the attitude of
    Dennis Kellman
    Esther Byer-Suckoo
    Kenny Best
    Donville Iniss
    Denis Lowe
    Steve Blackett (he impressed me during the
    budget debate)
    Patrick Todd
    Michael Carrington
    ——————-
    Those not mentioned are still to be evaluated
    Hammy La included


  37. The GoB has introduce a set of budgetary measures that they claim is cognizant of economic weakness, and thereby the need to protect the vulnerable.
    The Opposition say that these proposals will lead to inflation. I say that what they meant to say is that inflation which is currently above 4% will grow, but of course they could not say that, for to say such would “bleed” into GoB position that they inherited a week economy kept afloat by deficit spending. So it seems to me that argument and counter argument are split on what the government should target.

    What is happening on the world stage in this regard? It would seem there is a similar split amongst a set of US economist, with one set following the “fight the inflation” direction that the Europeans are using and the other set following the “Economic weakness” direction of the US Feds. It would seem as if our GoB is following the US Feds and the Opposition is following the European Central Bank.

    You decide:

    Economists split on Federal Reserve’s direction: report
    Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:28am EDT
    (Reuters) – Economists are deeply divided over whether the U.S. Federal Reserve should focus more on fostering growth or keeping inflation in check, The Wall Street Journal said citing its forecasting survey.

    Of 53 economists polled, 22 said the U.S. central bank should be more concerned about economic weakness than inflation, while 21 said inflation should be the greater concern, the paper said.

    The rest said the risks were balanced or declined to answer.

    “The damage from letting inflation percolate and remain in the system will trigger an even bigger economic slump down the road,” Alliance Bernstein economist Joseph Carson, was quoted by the Journal as saying.

    However, Lehman Brothers economist Ethan Harris told the paper that the housing downturn and fragile capital markets make a weakening economy the more pressing concern

    “The average person is saying, ‘I’m worried about inflation because I can’t get a wage increase,’” Harris was quoted by the paper as saying.

    “It’s not, ‘I’m worried about inflation and therefore I’m going to ask my boss for a raise.’”

    Many of the economists surveyed raised their estimates for second-quarter growth, reflecting a bigger-than-expected increase in consumption because of the economic-stimulus checks sent out by the government in recent months, the paper said.

    On average, respondents believed U.S. gross domestic product grew at a 1.4 percent annual rate in the second quarter, up from the 0.5 percent they forecast in June, the paper said.

    The survey, however, revealed that fewer than one in five economists said that a federal stimulus package prevented a recession; most said it merely delayed one, or had no effect at all.

    “The stimulus package has softened the downturn, but will not change the ultimate outcome,” Goldman Sachs economist Jan Hatzius was quoted by the paper as saying.

    The economists who are more worried about inflation gave lower marks to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke than did those concerned primarily about economic growth, the paper said, adding they gave higher marks to European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet, who has voiced much more concern over higher prices than Bernanke has.

    The cited economists could not be immediately reached for comment.

    (Reporting by Ajay Kamalakaran in Bangalore, Editing by Jacqueline Wong)

    =================================

    For Bajan political party supporters: If not for anything else this article can be use to demonstrate how easy it is to get varying opinions on the same subject from ECONOMISTS AND ECONTOMISTS.


  38. Hinds get your sick behind from your employer’s computer and go clean the toilets. You missed a spot in the urinal down the hall.
    You want to go back on welfare?


  39. David

    I am sorry but I am not following your argument which you seem to be directing to me.

    Perhaps you could read my post again.

    May be it is Wishing In Vain you want to speak to.


  40. ha ha ha ha I luv poor man economics. Now tell me who would you rather be. The General Manager of SSA in Barbados who dresses well carries a bunch keys and loads of responsibilities , but still finds it neccessary to takes bribes or a Janitor in the day like me in the US and security guard at night third shift both making 12 USD per hour? To help you better compare let me convert the pay rate for a 40 hour week for you like i does. I may be living in the US but conduct all my business using BDS exchange rate. Here goes

    I make 48 BDS per hour from my two low end jobs, that is 1920 BDS a week or 7, 680 a month My wife makes 1200 BDS a week from baby sitting that is 4,800 a month. Yuh hear that figure that Thompy quoted as remittances to Bim from Bajans over in away? Um does come from de “chitty” Jobs like wuh I does do. LOL!


  41. Adrian Hinds,

    You work cleaning “chit” and so you come here talking “chit” too.

    Get lost, boy.

    Nuhbody in Barbados in got nuh use fuh wunna.

    Get back to dodging bullets from white police and black gangsters in North America.

    Yuh Foolish Donkey!

  42. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Can

    Have you ever watched the TV show DIRTY JOBS?

    BTW doctoring is a dirty job.


  43. This was an excellent speech.. and when I say excellent I am not only talking about the almost perfect structure but the content and the thought which was the driver behind it give me even more comfert.. He really put things in prospective for all to read….
    Now as for “Tell Me Why” when I read his/her blogs it trully sickens me but I suppose, its his/her right to give there opinion even if its so politically driven… or a role of rubbish in my humble opinion at times … but hey freedom of speech is ours.. so who ever you are continue to do you thing, peace and love… some must be Bees some must be Dees some are even Pees and Independants..

  44. Barnabas Collins Avatar
    Barnabas Collins

    Let me say that a change in direction is always good. Especially if one was going in the same direction for about 14 years.

    When Freundel Stuart was in the Senate, I thought his level of debate was always professional. I also thought that he seems to be a honest gentleman who used language well.

    However, I thought the first 15 minutes or so was distasteful and classless. It was beneath him and anyone who praises the first 15 minutes of his speech should do some introspection.

    When the Right Excellent Errol Barrow was defeated in the 70’s, he was so devastated that he did not enter parliament. Instead he went to the US to teach. Sir Lloyd Erskine Sandiford took this country thru its most turbulent times in its history yet he was mentioned in the Queen’s honours and now is a “Sir”. Irrespective of who loves Mr. Arthur from his party or not and if he is devastated about being beaten in the elections, the mere fact that he has decided to enter parliament as a sitting MP, not even opposition leader and make a contribution should be respected. He is a former Prime Minister who guided us thru 9/11 virtually unscathed and should not be seen as all villian. I know that the best politicians get corrupted over time because absolute power corrupts absolutely. I am smart enough to know that the intimation of a deed is sometimes all that is needed to shroud a situation with doubt. In politics that is all that is needed.

    The final 15 minutes of his speech, although not addressing anything that Mr. Arthur said, was the Freundel Stuart that I like to hear and respect. He was the one politician that didn’t get caught in the dark days of the DLP. I hope he would not bring back that level of debate suited more for an election campaign meeting not our parliament.

    BC


  45. Georgie Porgie;

    You are so right. My friend’s son after interning told his Dad he did not like it. Too dirty and smelly. So he became a Radiologist. My mother who was a nurse spent 30 years looking after senior citizens in a nursing home, some of them bed ridden.

    Adrian,
    with your analytical ability you should complete your degree. If you already have one go to grad school. With your research know-how and ability to cut through the garbage, you are sitting on your talents. $12 and hour is too little for a man with your brains. I paid first year uni students $16, second year $17 and third $19 and hour. That was in 2002, the last year I hired students. It was regulated by the government. Those are government rates, some firms in the private sector paid more. It is probably much more than that now as it goes up yearly.

    However, if you are happy and can support your family, it is far better to be happy and making small $ than to be unhappy and making big bucks.

    Can;
    It is people like you that deter me and others from returning to live in Barbados. The way you look down your noses at others who are making a legit living. On the other hand, you may be the type who glorify the big rides and mansions of the drug dealers.

    I retired at 57. I am 61 today. No-one knows what I did nor what I earned, except those in my workplace. People in the Bajan community, nor my neighbours know. I never broadcast, nor show off, nor engaged in conspicuous consumption. Today I receive two pensions totalling $134, 000 BDS per year, indexed to the cost of living. My net monthly after tax, insurance, dental, medical and union is $7,400 BDS. I live like all my neighbours, simple. If I returned to Bim, look at the foreign exchange I would bring in each month. If I sold my house, it would be substantial. My income from investments here would generate more. Plus I get another pension at 65. We Bajans overseas, keep that island afloat with our remittances but people like you hold your noses when you hear some of the jobs we perform so we can send home that foreign $.


  46. I find that I must add my two cents worth. I thought the AG’s speech was hilarious. Everytime I read it I am cracking up. But of course that too will pass.
    I am more interested in my personal budget than the budget of the gov’t. After all, I make my own choices… steak or corn beef, bacon and eggs or bakes and eggs? Get my drift?
    Judging from some of the comments one encounters, I get the impression that B’dos is the world or at least a planet separate and distinct from the earth. Shit hitting the fan all over the world and we think we real special. “We better check we selves.”
    That said, Adrian Hinds I just love you. You always keep it real, and I get to enjoy a good laugh as well since you have humor down to a T.
    David of BU nuff respect.


  47. Pat, don’t let small minded persons cause you to expose your hand and get kidnapped.
    The blogs have free admission so you have to put up with the ‘others.’ Just chill.
    And what makes you believe that Adrian Hinds is really a janitor? Uh doubt um!


  48. Directed 2 Gapp
    You said “Now as for “Tell Me Why” when I read his/her blogs it trully sickens me but I suppose, its his/her right to give there opinion even if its so politically driven…”
    ……………………………………………………………………..
    If you read my statement regarding the AG, you will see that I said “I admire the AG”. I have no problems admitting such, but you will see that I confront things that I perceived to be wrong. I say that the first 15-20 minutes were personal, poor and bear no fundamental links to the budget. That episode almost single-handily destroy a speech from a man with superb oratory skills. We must always disassociate ones self even if you have partisan connections.

  49. Coming down for crop over Avatar
    Coming down for crop over

    Excellent speech by Stuart. As rest said I expect these thought provoking remarks from AG who is known to be well read and a deep thinker. Spare a thought for Muscle Mary Blarney Lynch. I dont blame Lynch for his defeat as his BLP comrades did. Poor MM did not stand a chance against Fruendel who is at the top of his game. Instant millionaire Blarney is in league of Dobad, Cynthia ‘Tom” Forde and Mark ” Consultant”Williams. He cant compete with a master intellect like Fruendel. MM you were humiliated but its not your fault you never had the brain tools to get close to Stuart far less defeat him. Reading the speech by AG in UK makes me wish I was at home to hear it in person.


  50. Pat you really think that AH is a janitor! Yeah right! that man is something else no one who can string words together like that with pun irony and metaphors could be a janitor!

    HE MAKES ME LAUGH!

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