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Art of NegotiationThank God the impasse between the Sanitation Service Authority (SSA) and the National Union of Public Workers (NUPW) is over. Barbadians were told yesterday evening that both sides arrived at an agreement which saw the withdrawal of charges made by the SSA, and the General Manager Stanton Alleyne being reinstated. Barbados Free Press posted their perspective on what turned out to be an embarrassment to the Dr. Don Marshall led SSA Board and by extension the Minister of Health David Estwick and the government of Barbados.

Last week Barbadians were reminded how easily a few individuals can threaten the health and prosperity of our small island. Mountains of garbage could be seen in key public spaces where Barbadians and tourists alike had to traverse. It seems inexcusable that the country has had to confront major industrial action twice in a six month period. This situation coincides with a government that has been installed for six months and has had to battle rising cost of living and a host of other issues.

What shall you say to get what you want? Sometimes you are like a fish out of water sometimes you are the clever crow – William Young

In light of the above, and given the prevailing economic conditions, and the declared commitment by the government of Barbados to root out corruption where it exist, Barbadians will see more and more skirmishes involving the two major unions. Last time we checked the BWU is twenty five thousand strong and the NUPW is eight thousand. Both unions represent a significant slice of the Barbados workforce. The 64 thousand dollar question is what can we do to protect the stable industrial relations climate which we boast of to all and sundry?

We have heard quiet calls in recent years for Barbados to roll out an Industrial Court. The model which our neighbour Trinidad and Tobago uses comes highly recommended. Sir Roy Trotman who leads Barbados biggest union has publicly resisted any attempt to install an industrial court in Barbados. From what we can recall his analysis of the situation is ‘if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it’. We have news for Sir Roy et al, IT IS BROKE! Our unions through the years have been led by men of superior breeding. However the current and future environment which unions will have to negotiate requires a shedding of redundant approaches.

The members of the union have evolved from field to knowledge workers. The private sector of Barbados has to mobilize in a highly competitive local, regional and global arena. A minor disruption in national productivity in the prevailing climate has the potential to negatively impact the economy, and very quickly. No longer should the success of Barbadian businesses have to depend on two Generals (Trotman & Clarke). There is simply too much at stake.

An Industrial Court in our opinion is better positioned to bring structure i.e. process and law to the business of managing industrial relations in Barbados. Our citizens now benefit from a higher standard of education. It should logically follow that we implement a system which can utilize modern methods contained in the art of negotiation and alternative dispute resolution. The opportunity for two or three people to destroy the economy of Barbados is not acceptable, no way no how. The Social Partnership has served its role as a public relations piece but a remodelling of the engine which drives the IR climate is required.

The BU household don’t have all the facts in the just concluded dispute between the NUPW and the SSA Board. The information we have suggest that ‘process’ was not followed, and secondly the sanitation workers rallied behind the union because of a ‘us and them’ mentality which the union bosses used to contrived the ridiculous situation of calling a strike to embarrass the country of Barbados. In life we have to make choices and the time has come for Barbados to unhinge itself from the fickle arrangement of two ‘generals’ having the power to destroy a country.

It is time for an Industrial Court to be set-up in Barbados.

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162 responses to “National Union Of Public Workers Or Barbados Workers Union Can't Be Trusted, Time For A Barbados Industrial Court”


  1. Ok so the now what about the pending strike at the QEH. seems as though someone has been let go in a very hasty way. Initials BC and both BAMP and the NUPW are not happy about the situation and how it was handled…. lets see where this goes!


  2. Would it be Brian Charles?


  3. There was no defense nor hearing, it was kangaroo court on steroids, wunna have ya own agenda – I done! When the hammer fall on y’all next, I hope you have solidarity like we have, y’hear?


  4. B C = BULL COW
    emphasis on BULL


  5. You aint here dat from me…maisie welch


  6. From media reports the NUPW and the QEH have been like a clam on this latest issue at the QEH. Could it that they have learned from the SSA matter and have conspired to muzzle information on this matter. We hope Minister Estwick forgets his boo boo over the SSA matter and respect the Court of Public Opinion.

    No boiler room deals!

  7. Barnabas Collins Avatar
    Barnabas Collins

    The some of the comments here and a letter to the editor I read on sunday lead me to think that we need to be very very careful what we beg for because we might get it.

    I think Mr. Bourne (if it is really him) has a lot of courage to enter this blog and make comments because it is obvious that the boards around have been charged with exterminating anyone who is seen as a BLP sympathiser. it is expected that some of the political erected boards, ambassadors and certain contracts et al will be removed as a matter of course but what is very frightening is that anyone who is now employed at a statutory corporation or it seems the civil service will come under the hammer. Lest we forget, diehards don’t get parties elected. The persons who get politicians elected are the ones who can make decision based on facts rather than blindly voting because it is my party. It should be abhored if any political party decide to dismiss members of statutory corporations based on their perceived political affiliation. That sort of partisan operation exists in other jurisdictions in the caribbean but not here.

    To my abhorance I read a letter that suggests that only party members should get employment for supporting the party in power. That is unbarbadian as one can ever imagine. I am part of a relatively large family and we are sometimes on differing sides of the political divide, but I would not want my family members losing their jobs because a particular political party is in charge. We are a small community and I hope that we will never get to the point where people think their very existence are connected to a political party. That will spell chaos and ruin as it has in other caribbean jurisdictions.

    As it relates to the Stanton Alleyne case, I cannot comment on if he took a bribe or not but what I can comment on is that if he was in the other camp as suggested by bloggers here, he would certainly not be acting for as long as he has. The fact the other government did not act on this means that they probably did not have enough evidence either.

    I am not a union person and probably will never be but apparently when the NUPW was concerned at the Hospital about how things were going there, it was the government of the day that was insensitive to the workers feelings. Now they have issues with what is happening now, it is because they don’t like this government. Crap is crap irrespective of which colour paper it is wrapped. Instead of villifying the NUPW, my quesiton is why the BWU is so silent and I would like to know what has happened with the workers at Royal Shop and Sandy Lane.

    I hope the bloggers here don’t have family, friends, acquaintances at statutory corporations working on contracts because I think they might be under some stress as it relates to their employment irrespective of if they took a bribe or not.

    Finally, I know I will be tagged as someone on the other side of political divide but believe me that could not be further away from the truth. I am a craftsman of my own fate, neither was I included or excluded, I am a Bajan like so many others that benefited from Free Education and a stable Barbados.

    BC


  8. Ian Bourne

    Got any more jobs available at SSA? I want one bad, bad, bad.
    I would be able to tief as I like, tek bribes as I like and do as I like.
    And when I get ketch, Ian Bourne and the NUPW will back me 100 percent. The SSA is bribes heaven. The other SSA tieves will strike for me since there is safety in numbers.
    My pocket will be full of money everyday, I will not even have to cash my pay checck. Just like you.
    No wonder you left CBC you now getting real money and I want some too.
    So,Ian Bourne, don’t forget to let me if any jobs available at the SSA.


  9. Ian Bourne // July 1, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    There was no defense nor hearing, it was kangaroo court on steroids, wunna have ya own agenda – I done! When the hammer fall on y’all next, I hope you have solidarity like we have, y’hear?
    =================================

    ha ha ha ha you didn’t have to tell us what was driving your position and opinions on this issue, it was all to obvious. Far from me to tell a man what is in his best interest on a particular issue. It is of equal distance for that man to get me to share in his selfish view. 😀 I am free to view this issue on the merit of the actions of the accuse against the conditions set out in the Laws of Barbados, and so i do. 😀
    …So you guh long and safe guard your pay check and i gine continue to look at Stanton’s “checkgate” via the letters of the Law. 😀


  10. Adrian
    If you got some information against Mr Alleyne, I suggest that you pass this on to the relevent authorities and save the board and gov’t some shame. Justice needs to be do and ASAP.


  11. Ian Bourne…I think you need to back out of this conversation buddy…
    There are those who are bent on being personal and political…and as such, there’s little or no objectivity…
    I dont understand how an intelligent person can accept that it’s correct to judge someone on hearsay and limited evidence…
    Besides…that’s not the role of the public…that’s the role of the LAW…and this is where the Board step out of bounds…
    The procedure for handling a suspected criminal activity in the public service is quite straightforward…just follow the procedure and move on with business…
    Otherwise…the government will be accused (and rightfully so) of witch-hunting and political victimization…and this is certainly not the stuff that makes for good governance and democracy…


  12. LOl… for real dough…some on here ar convicting Mr alleyne on hearsay.

    Any how I also heard that he MR Alleyne is a rgistered DLP member not a B so the plot thickens!


  13. basketball in crisis
    cricket in crisis
    football in crisis
    politics in crisis
    men/wmen in crisis
    immigration

    what is goin on people ??


  14. Ian Walcott // July 2, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Ian Bourne…I think you need to back out of this conversation buddy…
    There are those who are bent on being personal and political…and as such, there’s little or no objectivity…

    =================================

    Boy you dus mek me laugh. I can say that you were personal and political pre Jan 15th. On the 16th and thereafter until now Objectivity seems to have invaded your thought process. I am not fooled by it. I have heard enough from you to conclude otherwise. You would like to masquarade as an academic when it suits you, but hacks can and are often times academics. 😀

    ….Since Ian Walcott and NCF are permanantly link to each other in my mind. I had reason, to recently ask if the crop over calypso competition got cancel this year. Surely by now we would have seen signs of the annual “cat fights” de calypsonians, tent managers, and the NCF does put on fuh we. What or who is missing that the cat fight seems to be no longer? 😀


  15. ROBOT // July 2, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    basketball in crisis
    cricket in crisis
    football in crisis
    politics in crisis
    men/wmen in crisis
    immigration

    what is goin on people ??
    ================================

    Barbados is being run by Lawyers, Economists, and Hacks who often masquarade as academics. 😀


  16. What or who is missing that the cat fight seems to be no longer? 😀
    …………………………………………………………………….
    Adrian. How about Peter Boyce.


  17. Barnabas Collins:
    It should be abhored if any political party decide to dismiss members of statutory corporations based on their perceived political affiliation. That sort of partisan operation exists in other jurisdictions in the caribbean but not here.

    ===============================

    I don’t know which Barbados you are living in or have lived in, but the one that i know has always seen the civil service padded with the governing party faithfulls. Getting a government pick or having a polticians send you to some government department for a job is a national passtime in Barbados. As for political diehardism, it is only a recent phenominon that has seen the decline in the influence of political diehards, and that has only been replace by a heighten master client relationship between constituents and certain politicians. But diehardism is still a factor in St.John, St.Thomas and to lesser extent in St. Joseph. The buying of votes is big in St.Michael North East, and James South. Let the axe fall on the hacks.


  18. Tell me Why // July 2, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    What or who is missing that the cat fight seems to be no longer? 😀
    =================================

    how he get missing? I never could understand his many annual arguments, I don’t understand many of his songs either. :d Come to think of it he could be concidered a DLP supporter, so wait you trying to say that Peter Boyce use to cause all uh dah yearly confusion to mek de BLP look bad? If so i don’t think um work, I was always of the opinion that many Calypsonians should have been banned from ever singing giving the crap they often put out, rather than making noice for more money. I can’t remember that last time Madd put out a song that I like.


  19. The scout // July 2, 2008 at 11:55 am

    Adrian
    If you got some information against Mr Alleyne, I suggest that you pass this on to the relevent authorities and save the board and gov’t some shame. Justice needs to be do and ASAP.
    =================================

    The evidence that the Board presented to Stanton and that he refuse to comment on, should still be sent to the DPP for review.


  20. Hahahahahaha…listen man…I voted once in my life and I can tell u now dat i done wid dat….not another vote…for bee, dee nor en…i done with dat…
    I aint voting for a mudda #)*#*&#, ya hear…ALL O DEM IS DE SAME TING…
    So dont accuse me of being political because I have no such agendas…I really am not that interested my dear friend…politicians dont run Barbados anyways…but that’s another discussion…


  21. me // July 2, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    LOl… for real dough…some on here ar convicting Mr alleyne on hearsay.

    Any how I also heard that he MR Alleyne is a rgistered DLP member not a B so the plot thickens!
    =================================

    ha ha ha ha and i heard that “me” is really “you” 😀 It would not matter to me, what you have heard. Are you not aware that the DLP is not above shooting their own. Sometimes very deliberately. 😀


  22. Ian Walcott // July 2, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Hahahahahaha…listen man…I voted once in my life and I can tell u now dat i done wid dat….not another vote…for bee, dee nor en…i done with dat…
    I aint voting for a mudda #)*#*&#, ya hear…ALL O DEM IS DE SAME TING…
    So dont accuse me of being political because I have no such agendas…I really am not that interested my dear friend…politicians dont run Barbados anyways…but that’s another discussion…
    =================================

    I gine remember this statement, de next time de Redshirt Bees win de government. I gine present de proof to them that you are at the very least “Bee Light” just like Mascoll who could only muster a checkerd pink shirt.


  23. I’m sure the BEES will win the next election anyhow…de IMF gonna be in Bay Street running tings again very soon…so I aint worried bout dah…the bees won several elections without my vote…so they wont need it in five yrs to win the elections…so stop making it personal cuz it really aint bout me…I wasnt even living in Bdos in 1994 when they won…
    Enjoy your current state of suffering under Thompson and his cronies my brother… I got breadfruit and flying fish with cucumbers…


  24. Dear Carson:

    Re: your post of June 28th. I am trying to understand why you and your wife expected that the garbage would be picked up by the defense force and volunteers?

    You and your wife really expected that?

    Which planet you and the madam come from??


  25. J…I didnt see that post…hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha….that’s funny…


  26. Ian Walcott // July 2, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    I’m sure the BEES will win the next election anyhow…de IMF gonna be in Bay Street running tings again very soon…so I aint worried bout dah…the bees won several elections without my vote…so they wont need it in five yrs to win the elections…so stop making it personal cuz it really aint bout me…I wasnt even living in Bdos in 1994 when they won…
    Enjoy your current state of suffering under Thompson and his cronies my brother… I got breadfruit and flying fish with cucumbers…
    ================================
    ha ha ha Everytime you say you are not partisan, you keep your mouth open a little longer and remove all doubt. Why would a politically independent person who profess love of country, seemly look forward to the IMF taking control of said country? Indeed you seem to be more hack than academic if you believe that the IMF can move into a country and “run” things just so. I have several IMF Barbados consultation reports from various years of the Owen Arthur led government, but atlast you would say they were incountry but not in control right?


  27. Hahahahahahahahahaha…I just smell o rat…of course it’s the last thing I wish for my beloved island…but ya cant stop me from smelling o rat…after all…an economy needs people to spend to keep the machinery running…and from wha I hear…people aint spending…duh holding onto to duh coppers…
    What’s that all about…?
    Sounds like lack of confidence or fear to me…
    Everybody…waiting to see wha gonna happen…and in de meantime…nobody aint spending…so u kno wha dah means…
    No spending, no production, layoffs, unemployment, recession, stikes, increased crime, loss of confidence, austerity meeaures…VOTE OUT…(and dah would happen with whoever in power if duh cant get de damn ting run properly)…These are times to be creative…
    Where’s the creativity my friend…I aint seeing it…
    Sounds familiar?


  28. Come to think of it he could be concidered a DLP supporter, so wait you trying to say that Peter Boyce use to cause all uh dah yearly confusion to mek de BLP look bad?
    …………………………………………………………………….
    Wonder how you reach that assumption without any prompting. Adrian, was it that obvious? That makes me go hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm


  29. amazing that he is so quiet this year now that he got a pick…hmmmmmmmmm


  30. Adrian
    Now you see we blame ministers and political parties, but it is people with agendas that are the destructive forces. Peter was a monster against the NCF even though the organisation made tremendous progress in the cultural field with positive signs in the tourism sector. This new board can relish on the success of the past boards. We will have to wait the next year or two to see the behaviour of the board/calypsonians.


  31. To: Ian Walcott

    Whether it is your first or last wish, you have been pellucid in what you expect for Barbados in 5 yrs, such as with your list of “projected outcomes”! Are you managing this list of projects? Since Jan 16th you have spoken about the 5 yr dismal future of Barbados with the confidence and conviction of a project manager committed to the task. It was rumored that DLP operatives where responsible for a number of the strikes, and acts of sabotage etc at the QEH that occurred last year under the BLP, is there now a concerted BLP effort to payback? But looka de tings that party hacks and unpatriotic bajan limies and Yankees wish and may very well be feverishly working to bring to fruition in Bimshire! Um is really a sad indictment on any number of over-in-way bajans, many of whom hold dual citizenship, to run down to the rock, advertising their suppose successes and achievements in foreign, just to land a government job,…to then turn around and to be so vindictive on losing their pick at the public trough, doing so by wishing and probably working towards destabilizing the country. Ian are you doing all you can to ensure that Thompy don’t get another term?


  32. Me and Tell me why I know that you/wunnuh love conspiracy theories and that is why i speculated on Peter Boyce’s pass actions. Now i am not going to dispute Peter’s DLP hack label but you would have me believe that Peter cause all of those yearly calypso controversies to disadvantage the Blp? and that furthermore the BLP was powerless to rain him in? I ain buying that. This is the same BLP that nearly depleted the DLP of potential candidates, that could create jobs out of thin air for anyone who wanted to be politically included, and you would have me believe that they could not persuade Peter Boyce otherwise?


  33. and you would have me believe that they could not persuade Peter Boyce otherwise?
    …………………………………………………………………….
    Totally impossible Adrian. Peter knows what he want….Powerrrrrrrrrrrrrr, undivided powerrrrrrr. His next step……….Minister of Culture.


  34. Dear Adrian Hinds:

    You asked for stories about bribery.

    Well here is mine.

    I have NEVER offered a bribe.

    I have NEVER accepted a bribe.

    It is people like you who are willing to offer bribes who have corrupted the public service.

    But just once I asked “nice” and had a passport application expedited.


  35. J:// July 2, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    It is people like you who are willing to offer bribes who have corrupted the public service.
    =================================

    J, how you arrived at that???????? Good to see you accepting the reality of a corrupt public service, but why would you want to believe that the Bribing started with “offers” and not with demands? Who you know that likes to payout money? I came along and heard the older men talking about it, I knew that i as an individual would be powerless to stop it. There is a saying in small town America which states, “You can’t fight city hall and win” that amply defines my situation back then in Bimshire. At any rate we all know that Politicians usually sets the behaviour that the masses then adopt. Deighton Mottley set the tone for “bribing” in Barbados and in the public service in particular. He is well known as the father of “corn beef and biscuit politics”. Getting something for doing something is as Bajan as “flying fish and cou. cou.


  36. Bribes in the Barbados public sector is part of doing business with Government agencies.

    The SSA is the prime example. The other day I called the SSA truck to remove some old galvanised sheets, an old stove and an old washing machine. The SSA staff are paid by Government to do this job. Yet the driver told me that in order for the guys to remove the items “you have to give them a little something”. I had to give them $40.00 to do a job for which they are already paid.

    I did not offer to bribe them, they demanded a bribe, so in order to get my job done I had to pay up or else.

    So no wonder they would come out in force to support another crook.

    I thought that Ian Bourne was a man of honour but now I see that he is part of the problem. Another crook like all the rest of them.

    Let him deny what I just said.


  37. Another example. A neighbor called the SSA truck to remove some old items from her property.

    When the SSA truck came her opposite neighbor asked the guys if they could take an old dog house which she wanted to dispose of The driver, again the driver this time a different one, told her that she would have to fix the men, meaning that she would have to bribe them in order to get them remove the old dog house. She refused and up to now the old dog house is still sitting in her back yard as they refused to move it.

    Ian Bourne deny this one too. I will get more examples for you.


  38. “Getting someting fuh doing something” : Come Xmas many supermarkets and smaller minimarts are deluge with demands fuh a lil something that is often referred to as a xmas gift fuh as bajans would say “spending all my money wid you during the year”. A gift is given without asking and without requesting, a bribe is not.

    Anon Ian Bourne isn’t fooling anyone, we lived in Barbados . Do not capitulate to the demand for payment and risk been denied access to the service that you already paid via your taxes to have.


  39. Adrian…u aint kno um is time to go to work? Leff de people blogs dem…


  40. as usual someone from over and away on here causing strife… I guess no bribes happen in Boston?

    personally I am against bribes and I do agree that it happens too often across the spectrum but where do we start…
    Also if we are going to address it we need to do so propelrly. The Board at the SSA ffffed up . Period. And now dey effing up at the QEH too…!


  41. me // July 3, 2008 at 8:44 am

    as usual someone from over and away on here causing strife… I guess no bribes happen in Boston?

    personally I am against bribes and I do agree that it happens too often across the spectrum but where do we start…
    Also if we are going to address it we need to do so propelrly. The Board at the SSA ffffed up . Period. And now dey effing up at the QEH too…!
    ================================
    ha ha ha ha me! uh mean you, …..playing you aint know that Boston is where many Bajans come to learn the finer points of “hacking”, taking a bribe, etc. Now how you think Owen Arthur got elected to parliament as the rep for St.Peter? Tom saw to it that EBC redraw the constituency map to effect that win. Such redrawing is normaly referred to “Gerrymandering” and where you think the that term was first coined and used? thats right Boston. 😀

    Let de axe fall on the hacks. Really though the only effect resolution to this State of Bribing is to Vote dem in and vote dem out every 5 yrs.


  42. Ian Walcott // July 3, 2008 at 8:15 am

    Adrian…u aint kno um is time to go to work? Leff de people blogs dem…
    =================================

    I work in knowledge management and technology. Work is 24 hrs. The blogs are a great mental exercise, and exercise has a priority in my life. 😀


  43. I am appalled that anybody would have looked to Deighton Mottley for moral guidance.

    Maybe Adrian should have looked to his God, his parents, or his church.

    But Mottley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  44. Adrian…

    Interesting…I’m actually measuring (or trying to) how much Bdos is using the as a tool for economic development…and blogs are an integral part of this process…

    Cool man…


  45. And that old dog house will remain in the backyard for ever.

    It is NOT the responsibility of the SSA to come into ourbackyards to remove old dog houses and other debris.

    It is our responsibility to break down the old dog house into managable peices and to bring those pieces to the curb. I bet if your neighbour had done that the pieces would have been quickly picked up by the SSA.

    But no wonder we feel we must pay bribes since we believe that the SSA staff are our personal cleaning crew.

    You tax money pays the SSA to pick up what’s at the curb.

    Your backyard is your responsibility. You can clean and take to the landfill yourself or you can hire a private guy to do it. If you are old or sick or disabled your first call is to family, then friends, then the government.

    No country in the world pays public sanitation men to do personal backyard work, No country in the world can afford to do so.


  46. yea i was wondering about that too… ihave packed bsuh in large size garbage bags an put them in my bin so that the SSA can move them …I dont know what dey complianing bout


  47. The old the sick and the disabled can ask their churches to help with back yard clean up too. Every church, temple, mosque and other religious gathering has strong young members. And I hear that some of these young peopple are bored and do not know what to do with their lives. How about some churches organizing the younger stronger members to help the elders in the congregation with the dog house backyard cleanups.

    I did it for my old auntie recently and the SSA took the debris from the curb, no bribe offered nor accepted.


  48. // July 3, 2008 at 11:26 am

    I am appalled that anybody would have looked to Deighton Mottley for moral guidance.

    Maybe Adrian should have looked to his God, his parents, or his church.

    But Mottley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    =================================

    J: D Mottley was just a point of reference, not a source for guidance. But your country celebrated the life of Mottley several years ago. They said he was GREAT MAN, luv his rum, and was generous with de women, that he paid hamonsomely for support at the polls. Did you miss that? The fact that he was a womanizer, I no longer wonder why David Cathcart Simmonds and Mia Mottley have strikingly similar facial features and baritone voice. ha ha ha they both luv to smoke. 😀


  49. J and Me de two uh wunnu delieberately missing the point. That SSA truck crew where not obligated to take that woman’s old dog house, and they certainly where not authorize to accept PAYMENT for so doing. Now was a bribe in that case offered or asked for?


  50. he way I see she got off lucky becauase if she had to call someone to move it it owuld be 200 so 40 is not bad..

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