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Three Barbadian historians have recently passed to the great beyond where they now know, beyond doubt, that God is. Karl Watson passed on 11th January 2025, then Trevor Marshall on 12 February 2025 followed by Pedro Welch on 21 February 2025.

We rely on our historians to research and publish an accurate record of historical Barbadian events. Students may be taught what occurred, but historians may explain why and how they occurred. C L R James does a masterful explanation of why and how the Haitian revolution occurred in his book, ‘The Black Jacobins’.

Each of us have our lived experiences and the historical record should provide a context for our memories. However, since we are no longer in an age of truth and reason, but agenda-driven activism, the historical record of Barbados has been compromised.

MISINFORMATION

How Barbados became a republic is an example of the distortion of Barbados’ historical record – that our journalists and historians allowed. Tragically, their irresponsible behaviour resulted in this contagion of deception spreading internationally.

If we ever return to an age of truth and reason, there will be a foreseen gap of how and why important events occurred during this current misinformation age. To fill that gap, I plan to publish my evidence-based witness account for the benefit of future historians and journalists – in the hope by then, they would treasure their professional integrity.

Grenville Phillips II is a Doctor of Engineering and a Chartered Structural Engineer. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

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49 responses to “Babylon Has Fallen”

  1. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    What nonsense.

    Firstly, these three historians were not even marginally responsible for what is here broadly called distortions or misinformation about historical records.

    Indeed, history has historically been the provence of the powerful. For it has always been the powerful and the wicked who have always writer histories. We recall, that all three, Watson, Marshall and Welch, would have been occupied with trying to find the truth fot most of their lives.

    In their defense we would suggest that the book nearer ‘thy god to be” is provably and more appropriately be so described – distortions, misinformation.

    Secondly, since no one has ever been known to die and has so returned to tell us what this socalled god is or has ever been, would be certainly as unrepresentative of the field in which professional historians are known to labour. Even if we assumed that all three were.

    And while we’ve had bitting critiques of all three while they were with us, neither of them is deserving of, in their absence, being rubbaged by someone so over-zealously committed to the nonsense about what will happen to him when he departs, with the application of such an unworthy equalization.

    In fact, the above writer has supposed a right to speak for them three when they own words are still ringing throughout the anals of time.

    What we could say in defense of Watson, Marshall and Welch is that they did better than the vast majority of others to represent their historical findings.

    Maybe, the writer above might find a modicum of grace to at least allow their graves to settle, a period of deep consideration, before these hasty judgements are blandished about.

  2. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    These “Three” would have never challenged the writer of this trite on matters about professional engineering.

    But hear ye, hear ye, we have someone here who claims to be such an engineer but sees nothing amis by challenging all other desciples from the vantage point of the amateur he is in all.

    This Jack of all trades and master of none has here challenged lawyers on legal matters, judges on judicial matters, politicians of professional politics, historians on historiography, constitutionalists on constitutions and on and on – an arch monarchist!

    These are all evidence of an hagiography best constructed from the deep belief in a book of lies. A mental illness which assumes that some being somewhere has answered prayers and has thus bestowed some miraculous intervention specially for these types of mad people.

  3. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Rubbished

  4. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Babylon the Great has been a lot of things. In Caribbean parlance etymology is located within the Rastafarian movement.

    We seem to recall that Rasta and some other Christian sects see it as the socalled revelations apparently say – the world of false religions – weee seem to recall, represented by some many-headed beast, seen in sombody’s wet dream, with many clown heads, representative of empires, current and past. These are the fallen babylon within your Christian foolishness.

    Of course, the real Babylon was an ancient city in Mesopotania, modern day Iraq. That Babylon of recent was destroyed, fallen, to American Christian crusaders twice, once in the 1990s and again at the turn of the 21st century.

    Dem dey Babylon do not Watson, nor Marshall, nor Welch make. What nonsense is this? Even as one respects the creative rights of writers, no one should be allowed to talk shiite without squaring linguistic circles.

  5. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    RASTA-FAR-I CULTURAL SOUNDS
    Problems, Only Jah Can Solve It

  6. John Avatar
    John

    I agree with GP.

    I stopped believing historians and their version of events a loooong time ago.

    They are tools of the politicians in their quest to divide people.

  7. John Avatar
    John

    Pachamama
    February 28, 2025 at 7:02 pm
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    These “Three” would have never challenged the writer of this trite on matters about professional engineering.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The world and his wife can be historians but very few people can be an engineer.

    An engineer can read history, but a historian cannot practice engineering.

  8. John Avatar
    John

    I suggested a reason for the failure of Four Seasons and the resulting quagmire could have been due to the fact that like the VAT building, its foundations were substandard and the building would fail … or fall.

    I would not waste my time sending a historian to investigate and rule out that possibility, but I would send Grenville to look at the structure and see if there were signs and tell us if as a structural engineer, he would advise the owners who ever they may be to condemn and demolish it.

    I would however send a historian to research the documentation on ownership because he could do practically the same job as a lawyer.

    … but Grenville could do both their jobs with no trouble because he is an engineer and dealing with specifications plans and documents is like falling off a log for him.

  9. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Johnny

    No!

    There is far more ignorance about even what happened yesterday, as in a day ago, and as we go even further back the orders of magnitude on the ignorance scale become unprecedented.

    The role of professional historians is no different than the world of other professionals when compared to amateurs pretending to play the role of the professional.

    Both disciples rely on scientific methods, peer review, rigorous standards, life or death, and the like.

    To surmise that you, as a Johnny, would want, for instance, your garderer to perform brain surgery on your child, instead of a professional surgeon, so trained and with thousands of previous such surgeries successfully completed, must be the product of a demented mind.

    Must be the product of a person whose head is toooooo large for the rest of you.

  10. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Pacha
    Boss, as one of your loyal admirers…

    Bushie would humbly advise that you concentrate on guiding us with respect to current global affairs and related historical context…

    …AND that you DESIST from your irrational outbursts about the Bible ..and also in your instinctive responses to Dr. Phillips in particular.

    The referenced article could have been written in one paragraph that essentially says “ I plan to write my own eye-witness account of Barbados history – as I saw it.”

    What the Hell is wrong with dat?

    The references to the three historians merely serves to add body to the article – and draw reference to the FACT that we just lost three historians…
    …and that Grenville will fill the breech – especially since you are too busy following world affairs – and researching Kemet literature.

    WRT your ‘Bible’ outburst, Bushie rather enjoys them… much like the bushman enjoys listening to brass bowls ‘seriously debating’ the various chair configurations ….on the Titanic.
    Just now, we will ALL see the light (or the ocean floor – as the case may be)….LOL

    So give Dr. Phillips a break…. he will likely make a good historian, and he writes well..

  11. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    https://youtu.be/Zxxv2IEfU_c?si=91AvrgpgvYfvz4VS

    These are the kinds of issues we here should be discussing, not trite!

    And we’ll find a lot of similarities between a Johnny, the fecklessness of the writer of this shiiite article above, who never seems to have a global view while implicitly siding wirh the powerful.

  12. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    The great thing about Watson , Marshall and Welch , is that they used their knowledge to enlighten the people. Their sincerity, intellectual honesty and genuine ability to converse with all , will be their true legacy.

  13. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Bushie

    It might have been doctor bubu tooo.

    But why would you fall into the trap of what is best described as respectability here by Thompson – PLT.

    What is this national preoccupation with old men running around seeking all these useless degrees as presumed status symbols?

    Is death not better that this?

    And to do that when this proven amateur is less than respectful to others who have not only earned such advanced degrees but went beyond seeking such petite respectability trinkets to make real contributions.

    Could it be possible that your sometimes soft peddling of this proven idiot is best located within the brotherhood to which you both claim to ascribe?

    Pacha needs no guidance as to which matters are to attracting our attention. For two basis reasons. One, we see everything as connected to everything else, and. Two, you like another here, are adept at presuming to ringfence certain issues under the pretext that somebody else knows another area better or that you yourself is a better knower.

    Until death, Pacha shall be moving heaven and earth to destroy this demonic book of lies so central to the mentality of modern day slaves like you and this doctor bubu here.

    This shows the colour of your slip. One philosophy is Afrocentric while the other is Eurocentric. Pacha is the former and you the latter!

  14. David Avatar
    David

    @William

    There is a skill set that is required to be a good historian, being able to do good research, capacity to interpret from different sources among other skills. It is not a stretch to believe an engineer by day couldn’t be a good historian. Especially if perspectives shared publicly will have to withstand the rigor of those who claim the label of ‘historian’.

  15. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Thanks, for making the point more simply than this writer could.

  16. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    Respectfully, we never commented in this thread, on what is a historian or not . But, what we can say with great honesty, is that we have been having nothing but comic relief, reading the posts because we long ago expressed our admiration for Comrade Marshall on BU , and the response of some was quite interesting. There is a reason that the elders have always maintained that common sense beats education every time. We say no more for the time being.

  17. David Avatar
    David

    It wasn’t a direct comment to what you stated William. It was meant to add to the discussion that all of us have the capacity to be historians to one level or the other. Elombe is recognised as one of our better oral histories for example.

  18. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    We agree 100 per cent.

  19. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Pacha has before here on BU questioned certain assumptions by a person who to this day has no sense as to what a professional historian means. The differences between a professional anything and an amateur.

    This man-in-the-street orientation demands everybody to operate at such a singular level, while pretending that therein lies some greatness. It requires the absence of any level of sophistication. It demands everyone to operate on a prescribed by them.

    Fuck off!

    Now is not the time to revisit that. Indeed, this writer, as admitted earlier, has been a staunch crític of at least two of the dead “historians”. And shall be again, but not at this time. We fail to see why our earlier stated and argued positions cannot coexist with the defenses mounted here.

    These old wife’s sayings, the constant refrains of fools, do nothing to move the needle.

    More tragically, these same idiots, even with advancing age, still fail to recognize the extent to which seemingly disparate ideas can coexist within the same space and time.

    Such sophisticated conceptions must be the enemies of us all. What foolishness! It’s evidence of an untrained mind.

    They are free, as per usual, to continue with their snead, even malicious, commentaries – the provence of the crab in the barrel mentality.

  20. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, I was hoping the ‘Babylon Has Fallen’ headline was an opening for remarks on the un-gracious Babylonian style fall seen yesterday in White House, but not a whimper … alas.

    So let me stay on thread track.

    I agree with my griot de Bushman.

    And how do you ‘reasonably’ arrive at the position that the “skill set […] required to be a good historian, being able to do good research, capacity to interpret from different sources among other skills” are NOT must have skills of an engineer!

    That is quite COUNTER Intuitive IMHO!

    Surely many engineers are hands-on, action-tasked for their daily trade and habit… BUT of necessity any who aspire to be experts (as do any historian so motivated) MUST employ those skills to succeed.

    Simply stated a PROPA EXPERT needs to be a damn good researcher, be superb at distilling multiple data points and have many other skills whether he is de-constructing our past to help build a future devoid of the historical errors or whether she is tasked to build solid, current structures based on guidance of historical knowledge.

    I am thus confounded by the arguments contrived here thus far…

    Anyhow, continue space.

    BTW, you think President Zelensky threw a ‘javelin’ in his foot. He came to play and regardless of the brassholelery of his hosts he badly lost that game.

    He can’t piss off two of the most powerful nations – at the same time – and expect to survive, now can he!

    Peace, out.

  21. David Avatar
    David

    @Dee Word

    Noted, your opinion is as valuable as the other the fair minded will agree.

    Zelensky meant well but exercised poor social awareness skills and emotional intelligence yesterday.

  22. Goeht Avatar
    Goeht

    Oh boy! Here comes the cockroach to the fowl party.

    Being a historian is much more than doing research. If you lock the best researcher in room with 100 history books, when he emerges that does not make him a historian. The point would be well taken if the subject is chemistry.

    The type of research done by an engineer would be quite different from that done by a historian. We use the same word (research) but these would be two different tasks and different motivations.

    What is given in the original post is not enough for me to take GP seriously as a wanna be historian. Grenville need to step out and produce his own effort and let history be the judge. He get no point by minimizing the work and efforts of others.
    I will start with his history of Nelson.

  23. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    That is not so. Zelenski is a Ukrainian. And if you knew the history of Ukraine you’ll know why this was bound to happen.

    Indeed, he’s as much of a Ukrainian as any other in the West, even within Western governments, who long planned this war and still want to run it today, like Victoria Nuland, as one example.

    Then there’s the role of the Britidh with deep historical hatreds for Russia.

    Even more profound, are the colonial behaviours of Western countries. These are what should most frighten us all.

    For we have American and Western European governments seeking to feed off the carcus of Ukraine.

    Seeking to get their hands on non-existent mineral wealth. What a con game!

    When this writer tried to alert this blog about these machinations the pedantics were deeply under Western propaganda. Maybe still are. Even as the war has long been lost.

  24. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    As I have pointed out before, SOURCE ANALYSIS is critical to the discipline. We can all read “history” but we do not all know how to assess the credibility of the source.

    Most amateur historians are just readers of documents.

  25. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Cockroach outrunning the fowl at the moment.

  26. Terence Blackett Avatar
    Terence Blackett

    BABYLON IS FALLEN – IS FALLEN, AND HAS BECOME A HABITATION & DWELLING PLACE OF DEMONS, A PRISON FOR EVERY FOUL SPIRIT, AND A CAGE FOR EVERY UNCLEAN & HATEFUL BIRD

    #WhatManichaeanMadness

    #WhatAgathokakologicalMalevolence

    #WhatFurtiveFraud

    #WhatFlagitiousFolly

    #WhatCacodemonicIntrigue

    #WhatADeprecatoryDiabolicus

    #WhatEnergumenicalSkullduggery

    THANK YOU DR. PHILLIPS FOR YOUR PROPHETIC DENUNCIATION OF THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN & ALL IT FALLACIOUS WINDBAGS, IMPS, EMISSARIES & MINIONS

    In the words of Scripture:

    “And the #BEAST was taken (THIS WORLD’S MYSTERIOUS BABYLONIAN SYSTEM), and with him the “FALSE PROPHET” (THE #ANTICHRIST & HIS SATANIC GAGGLE) that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the “MARK OF THE BEAST” (THE RIGHT 2 BUY OR SELL), and them that “WORSHIPPED” his image (FORCED* FALSE RElieGIOUS OBEDIENCE). These “BOTH” were cast ALIVE* into a “LAKE OF FIRE BURNING WITH BRIMSTONE”. And the “REMNANT” [those left of the “KINGS” and “CAPTAINS” and “MIGHTY MEN” and “HORSES” and “THEM THAT SAT UPON THEM” and “ALL MEN, BOTH FREE AND BOND, BOTH SMALL AND GREAT”] were “SLAIN” with the SWORD* of HIM* (YESHUA MESSIAH – THE CHRIST – THE KING OF KINGS & THE LORD OF LORDS) that sat upon the horse, which SWORD* proceeded out of “HIS MOUTH”: and all the fowls (VULTURES) were filled with their flesh…” (Rev. 19:17-21)

    This is the “SUPPER OF THE GREAT GOD ALMIGHTY” – for the cry goes out across the heavens: (“COME AND EAT THE FLESH OF MEN) – for all those who have lived “WANTONLY LUXURIOUS” lives upon the earth – “TRADING IN THE SOULS OF MEN”; the “RAPE OF LITTLE CHILDREN”; the “MERCHANDIZE AND TRAFFICKING OF INNOCENT BLOOD” and the “ROBBERY AND MURDERR OF THOSE WHO ARE DEFENCELESS! YESHUA MESSIAH (OUR PRECIOUS LORD & CHRIST) will be the “UNSTOPPABLE FORCE” that will destroy “SATAN’S KINGDOM” (ONCE & FOR ALL) and “ALL WHO HAVE SERVED HIM”!!! (Daniel 2:33-34; 44-45)

    THIS WAS 4 YEARS AGO – WHY IS NO ONE SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT; GUESS WHERE WE ARE NOW???

    #StayTuned

  27. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @David March 1, 2025 at 9:39 am “… all of us have the capacity to be historians to one level or the other.”

    Nonsense David. I can knock together a few boards and some old galvanise to make a so called dog house. But I beg you please do not ask me to design, supervise or construct your multistory building. I am not a structural engineer. I am not even a half decent storm carpenter.

    I can make a conkie [it is still “no” Bushie] that the undiscriminating grandchildren enjoy. But please do not expect that I can plan, organize, and cook for 60th anniversary reception for you and the madam. Don’t hire me. Hire a professional chef please.

    No disrespect to Grenville the engineer, but Grenville is no historian.

    Karl, Trevor and Trevor were educated, trained and experienced real real historians. I had the pleasure of meeting all 3 men through my work and found them all to be scholars, and CHARMING gentlemen. A great loss to the youth of Barbados.

  28. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @Grenville “If we ever return to an age of truth and reason…”

    So tell us please, when and where was this age of truth and reason?

  29. David Avatar
    David

    @Simple Simon

    You are simplifying what was stated. However carry on smartly.

  30. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    You should live the life and love the life you life
    When you are on a roll you got to let the good times roll
    Reaching down to your soul and never be cold
    Baby, young and old, you got to let the good times roll
    Dancing on the street you got to clap your hands and stomp your feet
    I tell you
    A musical sound coming down from Jamaica way is complete
    Really designed to cool off the heat

    When I tell you love is lovely
    I mean war is ugly baby

    You are my angel
    Come from way above
    To bring me love (To bring me love)

    Her eyes
    She’s on the dark side
    Neutralize
    Every man in sight

    Love you, love you, love you
    Love you, love you, love you
    Love you, love you, love you…

    You are my angel
    Come from way above
    Love you, love you, love you
    Love you, love you, love you
    Love you, love you, love you…

  31. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    An education system based on Elitism will produce elitists. A careful review of previous posts in BU will reveal that elitist thinking. Fortunately, within our country there are some who although going through the system have carefully avoided elitist thinking and have made outstanding contributions to our island state and indeed the region. Watson , Welch and Marshall are among such citizens.
    They chose to see their fellow citizens in a more dignified and positive light.
    Without humility education is useless. And that’s how true legacies are attained. Fundamentally, it has precious little to do with agreement or disagreement. It has to do mainly with intellectual maturity.
    Those steeped in Eurocentric thinking will never agree with such thinking. It really is too simple for them to grasp.
    They know what is 12 x 12, but they can’t figure out what is 12×13.
    Something’s are just to easy for some to follow.

  32. John Avatar
    John

    William Skinner
    March 1, 2025 at 5:04 pm
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    An education system based on Elitism will produce elitists.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    … and an education system based on merit will produce a meritocracy.

    Never confuse the two!!

  33. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ John

    The first rule of meritocracy is to have inclusivity. So, first discrimination must be removed so that all will have an equal chance at meritocracy. Any system based on discrimination cannot claim to be one of merit.
    That is also a truism.

  34. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    “Any system based on discrimination cannot claim to be one of merit.
    That is also a truism.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Technically this is NOT a ‘truism’ William.

    In fact, it is not even true, since it can be argued that a meritocracy is actually a concept that is based on unrelenting, institutional, DISCRIMINATING – AGAINST brassbowlery, laziness, mendicancy and poor standards.

    Inclusivity in a meritocracy is generally ONLY guaranteed with respect to the EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES available to whosoever will…
    So they are NOT ‘discrimination-free’ for BBs.

    Elitism is a problem, but so is a ‘graduate in every home’, …and so too is an EQUAL distribution of talents to all and sundry…

    The ONLY ‘perfect meritocracy’ is the one described in the Parable of the Talents – where ‘success’ is measured -NOT BY NET PRODUCTIVITY, BUT BY the degree to which available resources are leveraged.
    So imagine a meritocracy where a fellow running a successful snow cone cart can EASILY rate higher than some jackass billionaire…
    This is possible when the ingredients for ’success’ are things such as:
    -love
    -patience
    -unselfishness
    -wisdom

    A TRUE Education system is one that is able to understand, and build on the DESIGNED characteristics of living a truly successful life.

  35. John Avatar
    John

    William Skinner
    March 1, 2025 at 6:35 pm
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    @ John

    The first rule of meritocracy is to have inclusivity.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Not true.

    By definition a meritocracy allows people with merit to shine.

    Inclusivity ….. as in DIE …. Diversity Inclusion and Equity ….. is death!!

    America got rid of that shite.

  36. John Avatar
    John

    Equality of opportunity and not Inclusivity is what I think you mean.

  37. John Avatar
    John

    … but people with merit usually spot the opportunity first and get a head start.

    The rest then see the progress made, try to copy what they think they see, fail and then complain they were discriminated against.

    Meanwhile, the people who have seized the opportunity move to the next opportunity because opportunity is fleeting.

    If they have worked efficiently, they build some capital to take them further because they are always working with one eye on the lifecycle of the opportunity and the other searching for the next one.

  38. John Avatar
    John

    70.4% of players in the NBA are African American.

    Only a complete idiot would claim this was because of discrimination.

    The simple fact is a player makes a bomb so long as he remains uninjured and no one who merits a pick ahead of him presents himself.

    Merit works, diversity, inclusion and equity spell DIE!!

    So if we have such a blaring example of what merit does why would we ever choose an alternative for our children.

    Drive the little buggers hard and separate the wheat from the chaff, the sheep from the goats.

    It will stand them in good stead later on.

  39. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    DEI was a system which was set up to counter the old boys’ network which excluded based on race, gender etc those who were QUALIFIED. All DEI hires have passed the test, but would not have been recruited due to historically entrenched discrimination. Black children who managed to qualify would likely have succeeded AGAINST THE ODDS, which would make them even more worthy than those of privilege.

    When I attended QC, the school was about half white girls. In a population of over 90% black majority, about 50% of white girls at Q.C.

    Meritocracy? Yeah right! Some of them were always near the bottom of the class. But their fathers had a few dollars in their pockets. This was the same system that black people faced in the USA.

    And, by the way, the universities have done away with DEI. They have not, however, done away with legacy admissions. So money is still talking and the sons of former prominent graduates are still walking…..right past those with higher GPAs and into the Ivy League!

    There is a school to prison pipeline for disadvantaged black boys. And there is a school to the boardroom pipeline for privileged white boys.

    This also applies to Barbados. Anyone who attempts to deny this is as lying as John Knox.

  40. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    “He has several Barbadians working on the project along with his team from overseas,”

    https://nationnews.com/2025/03/02/vow-to-maintain-natural-bathsheba-landscape/

  41. David Avatar
    David

    We have to be careful not to make DEI a Black and Race issue a la affirmative action for example. DEI as presented is meant to include all unique groups like people with disabilities, coming from sexual orientations, people of age to name the popular ones. The idea being to make the work environment a place where individuals who are different feel welcome and comfortable in the workplace.

  42. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    and on the east coast.

  43. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    David,

    That is why I included gender ETC. But, in light of how John Knox and his ilk would frame it, point taken.

  44. David Avatar
    David

    Understood Donna.

  45. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    I meant to respond to an earlier comment from John Knox regarding our historians trying to divide us. And I ask – when were we ever together?

    I remember arriving at the same QC with nothing about race on my mind. None of us black girls had race on our minds. I never even wondered about the percentage of white girls being disproportionate. We had heard nothing of the discriminating interviews that Cynthia Wilson described in her book Whispering of the Trees. Those things were gone by then.

    Do you know who had race on their minds? The white girls! What a bewildering sight it was for us when at break time they emerged like insects from every class, from lower first to upper sixth, all converging around one spot – the tennis courts. Ten year olds and eighteen year olds all in one place, white skin being their unifying characteristic.

    I also remember when, some years later, and having been made more aware of racial discrimination, how bewildered THEY were when we plotted to make it to the benches before them!

    We were never together. Not during slavery, at no point during colonialism. At no point since independence. Our historians had nothing to do with it. It’s the stinkin’ mind of white people. WORLDWIDE.

  46. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    We are not prepared to waste time debating this issue. @Donna is absolutely correct.

  47. John Avatar
    John

    David
    March 2, 2025 at 1:05 pm
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    We have to be careful not to make DEI a Black and Race issue a la affirmative action for example. DEI as presented is meant to include all unique groups like people with disabilities, coming from sexual orientations, people of age to name the popular ones. The idea being to make the work environment a place where individuals who are different feel welcome and comfortable in the workplace

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    DIE has died a natural death in the US, as did affirmative action.

  48. John Avatar
    John

    DIE is falling apart!!

  49. David Avatar
    David

    Marshall was people’s historian, says colleague

    The head of Barbados’ history fraternity has been chopped off.

    With this ominous declaration, historian Morris Greenidge mourned the loss of his “younger brother” Trevor Marshall, who passed away last month.

    Yesterday at the viewing of the body at The Clock Tower, Main Guard, Garrison, St Michael, Greenidge said: “In the last month or so, we’ve lost Karl [Watson], Pedro [Welch] and now Trevor – the people’s historian. The head of history has been chopped off.”

    Greenidge recalled meeting Marshall in 1970 and forming a lifelong friendship. He said Marshall encouraged him after he wrote his first book, adding he was also a driving force calling for the removal of Nelson’s statue in Bridgetown.

    The historian said one little-known fact was that Marshall toured primary schools around Independence, visiting several schools a day.

    “This is like losing a brother, a younger brother and, of course, also somebody who supported me. He’s irreplaceable,” he said.

    The viewing was coorganised by Carl Padmore, a relative of Marshall’s. There was a television depicting memories of the late historian as well as folk singing.

    “We are finding out some things we didn’t even know about him, such as his big impact on the Barbados Community College and the National Cultural Foundation. He touched many lives and we are pleased he made such a big contribution to Barbados,” Padmore said.

    The funeral will take place today at St John Parish Church from 3 p.m.

    Padmore said Marshall hailed from St John so it was a “no-brainer” to have his burial there. As for why the viewing was held at the Clock Tower, he said Marshall was once a cadet and marched during the 50th anniversary celebrations alongside Mac Fingall. ( CA)

    Source: Nation

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