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In June 2020 the then Minister of the Environment Trevor Prescod led a team from government on a mission which uprooted 20 trees planted by owner Allan Kinch on beach land located along Carlisle Bay, Bay Street, St Michael. It was captured by Nation News. An interesting action by this government who launched “We Plantin” project in 2020 to plant ONE Million trees.

Minister of Environment and National Beautification, Trevor Prescod, planting a tree at Hope Plantation, St. Lucy, to mark the start of We Plantin’ More Than A Million National Tree Planting Project yesterday. (S.Forde-Craigg/BGIS)

https://fb.watch/e3lX9Lanej/

What the blogmaster does not understand is why the government seems ultra aggressive against developer Allan Kinch developing the property he purchased. Was it not known at the time of sale what was planned? There are usually several sides to a story but the blogmaster is yet to hear why Mr. Kinch is being frustrated in his quest to develop the property he legitimately purchased. It seems he is not even allowed to put out deck chairs other businesses in the area are allowed.

Instead we have an eyesore for an open space.

There is a lot more the blogmaster can and will post but reserves further comment for the moment.

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181 responses to “Businessman Frustrated by Government”

  1. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ Africa online

    Thanks for reminding me of the Blue Horizon fiasco. Same dam story basically.

    Valuation done. Property sold for half of valuation and beach access across the road lost with it. Same issue as here except the discount is larger.

    So what is the recourse for us the true owners and shareholders in these “deals?” No one seems to understand that when we say government sold this and did that, that they in fact own nothing. It is us the taxpayers who own the assets.

    @ David

    If government did acquire the property they would pay based on the land tax value. Let me give you an issue that occured with a friend of mine. He sold a house below landtax value because it was all he could get for it and the family wanted the cash. When it reached the attorneys they advised him while the sale will go through based on the sale price, the transfer taxes etc will be charged based on the higher landtax value.

    So if government decided to acquire this land the purchase price would be the same land tax valuation. This probably would be at the last sale price still of the $4M kinch paid.

  2. David Avatar
    David

    Sorry John A, not following your argument at all.

  3. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ David

    I am saying if this government wanted to acquire the property they would pay the land tax value which probably would be $4M seeing that was the last recorded sale price.

  4. David Avatar
    David

    @John A

    The recorded sale price was agreed as part of a seales tender process was it not? Isn’t it a stretch to contend the land tax value was the consideration?

  5. John Avatar
    John

    Maybe the purpose of the tender process was to inject a higher number into the mix and confuse things!!

  6. John Avatar
    John

    BajanJuly 6, 2022 11:44 AM

    Ok Mr John so you like showing connections …… past connections. Like it is a crime to be a businessman in Barbados
    Why no mention that it was he who saved Bajan shareholders millions in the Massy takeover…. Continue to question and try to make a innocent man look guilty but the truths that come out about others you may not like

    ….. how about how other things connect. Do you think you or those reading this blog are ready to see how things truly connect in Barbados????

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’m not saying that the man is guilty of anything, just pointing out his connections.

  7. John Avatar
    John

    DavidJuly 6, 2022 7:17 AM

    The lot in question was owned by CLICO years ago?

    Like

    JohnJuly 6, 2022 7:27 AM

    How did it get to CLICO??

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    BTW

    The property was probably at one time that of BS&T or Plantations … if it passed through CLICO!!!

    CLICO and Massy are both Trinidadian, another connection I would point out … and worthwhile bearing in mind.

  8. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    DPD,

    Speak for yourself! I do not like gossip. I like logical deductions and reasoning a la Hercule Poirot.

  9. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ David

    When ever the govermment is aquiring it is done at the current land tax value. That is the basis for the acquisition act. There is a difference between the state using acquisition and the state buying a property. If they are acquiring the land to secure beach access for the public it will happen at the land tax value. Same as if they were acquiring land for road improvement etc.

  10. David Avatar
    David

    @John A

    Was that the calculation for the liquidation center or was that a different animal.

  11. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @John
    The only ‘new’ was the 4 plantation holding co’s, and you know a lot more about plantations history and land than I do.
    @David
    I have no idea. All these issues have “roots”. It may well precede this land deal and/or have nothing to do with it.
    Developers all over are know to sail close to the wind

  12. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ David.

    I am fairly sure the land tax value was used there too. Remember it was said tongue in cheek that ” you didnt object when you was paying it so dont object now you getting paid at it.” Lol

  13. Dullard Avatar
    Dullard

    How can there be any defense for a prime asset being “surrendered” at a cost 80% below valuation? Even the most distressed real estate hardly sees these types of discounts. Utterly ridiculous.

    #failing state

  14. Lisa Avatar
    Lisa

    David

    You know that Kinch is in the business of selling land right? Years ago I purchased some land from him, and at the time he was also selling Yorkshire, so took us over there to see if we might like it better. He told us they purchased agriculture land and change the use to sell on as residential. He sold the land under market value and still made money because of the what he paid for it to begin with. He sold out the area as soon as he put it on the market. The lots started at 1 acer up to 6, so he didn’t break it down into small lots. I just see it as doing business.

  15. BAJAN Avatar
    BAJAN

    So let me get this straight…. If Mr Kinch is innocent in this and he is a victim which I believe he is. Should Mr Kinch then be victimized more by having had to pay taxes on land he never got to use of and pay lawyers and architects and for purchases for the planned project having had to pay all of these plus endure the victimization of being stripped of his rights and humiliated in the house of Parliment where defamatory comments were made and 7 years of his life already spent on this …. Is he to have endured all of that just to have what he paid thrown back at him or perhaps never returned as the government most often does when it comes to acquiring?
    Is this how you want your tax dollars spent?
    If this how you want your county to run and it’s citizens treated. Will you be happy if this were to happen to yourself or one of your loved ones?

    Would in not be better for the now government to communicate with Mr Kinch and resolve any outstanding concerns rather that continue to victimize him?

    The PM recently said something at a summit about meeting with those we disagree… I think she was saying something about the US should have invited Venezuela and Cuba….. as they say is not what is good for the Goose good for the Gander?
    Are those of you who support this saying that those victimized and abused should not receive compensation for their abuse?
    I guess that means you also don’t support reparations…… I for one certainly and wholeheartedly do.!

  16. David Avatar
    David

    @Bajan

    The challenge for Mr. Kinch is that most people do not see him as a victim.

  17. BAJAN Avatar
    BAJAN

    @David. How are you not a victim when someone sells you something continues to take money from you and you have nothing to show for it? I know if I by a car and pay in full for it and pay my insurance and tax every year and the dealership kept telling me no I can’t get in it, no I can’t driver it. I know I would feel victimized especially as it would have been bought to drive. Just as this land was bought with a purpose known to and supported by government .

  18. David Avatar
    David

    Note carefully what the blogmaster wrote. People generally will not see Mr. Kinch as a victim because he is perceived as a person of means. The fact that he sees himself as being shafted by government is irrelevant in their eyes.

  19. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ David

    Please direct me how i can become a victim please and pay 20 cents on the dollar the next time i see something for sale.

    Please i really really really want to be a victim badly! LOL

  20. David Avatar
    David

    @John A

    Does it matter the price paid if approvals sought by ‘victim’ to develop the property is denied?

  21. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @BAJAN
    So what did AK do to the pols to piss them off? These things just don’t happen.

  22. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    Happen….out of the blue

  23. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Tell Mr. Kinch to get in line! There are many more victims before him in the queue who don’t have the resources he still does.

    Fairness? Not a word known to the average Barbadian!

  24. Donks, Gripe and Josh Avatar
    Donks, Gripe and Josh

    Trevor Prescod name has been missing from the news does anyone know why?

    It is alleged he is a Pan Africanist.

    He ought be visible with the descent of young blacks into the cesspool hell of shootings, murders, drugs and serious crime against their own black brothers and sisters.

    For a long time successive governments sold beach front property secretly and cheaply to a certain type of person.

    These sales rob the majority of the population of the country’s wealth at the same time creating problems of beach access and inequality for mostly poor black people.

    No beach land owned by the taxpayers should be sold.

    At most a lease is possible .

    Only an overwhelming case where the country benefit’s massively should sale of government beach front be considered.

    Town hall meetings even referendums are in order before priceless real estate owned by the state is sold.

    Miss Ram needs to reopen her compulsorily acquired beach property case if as reported the Bay St. spot by the old eye hospital is on the market for sale for US$10 million .

    The very same piece of beach the conniving and callous government sold for BDS$4 million.

    The similarities between this scandalous affair and the radical covid vaccines scheme jump out at you.

    Miss Ram has to ask for at least US $30 million for where she was evicted from on the same Bay St given her land was larger. Fair is fair.

    This blogger don’t give a flying RH or a rats ass if the property was bought by one of the infamous Cattlewash mob or a chain hotel mogul.

    Government should buy back that piece of beach front for the price it is valued and reinstate the beach access for everybody black and white, tourists and locals.

    The present government is accountable to no one hence Bajans may have to march on the streets in numbers and protest against wrongs and injustice .

    The beach front rip offs of the peoples property are clear examples of skullduggery.

    If Prescod can be found we expect him to be a leader of the protests.

  25. TLSN Avatar
    TLSN

    @Donks, Gripe and Josh,

    Check the link below.. The time for protesting has long since gone.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/05/honduras-land-rights-fight-crypto-colonialists

  26. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    Taken from today ‘s New York Times
    “Black American investors have been hit especially hard because of higher exposure to digital assets, The Financial Times reports.

    A survey by Ariel Investments and Charles Schwab found that a quarter of Black investors owned crypto investments at the start of the year, compared with 15 percent of white investors.”

  27. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    That was surprising news for me. I suspect these are mostly young people.

  28. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    I am slow on these things

    What did Mr Kinch do that was wrong?

  29. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    Jesus, when an article like this one leaves you catspraddled then you know it is time to tell the nursing home to have your bones turned to glue.

    People talking nuff, but not saying anything.

  30. John Avatar
    John

    Lenny St. Hill (RIP) told me years ago that he was involved in the production of the first PDP in the 60’s.

    As Chief Town Planner he stuck by the PDP.

    If you applied for change of use in an area designated for that changed use, you got the permissions.

    If you applied for a change of use not envisaged by the plan, tough.

    Until he was instructed by his superiors that he was making it too easy for the wrong people to get permission!!

    Wound up not having his contract renewed.

    The result was some could get permissions for development and some could not depending on who you were.

    If you were anointed, you could offer at low agricultural prices, subject to change of use,

    You could get the change of use once the sale went through at the low price, flip some or all of the sale the same day to someone who would pay for the permissions and walk away making a tidy profit.

    Golden Mile Resorts and the Duffus Commission in 1976 was the first indicator as Barbados lurched down the slope to more and more corruption but there were earlier ones as well, Frere Pilgrim 1972, Husbands 1964, Lodge, Clermont etc etc etc..

    The result is clear today.

    Barbados is to small to operate like that without the destruction of the economy.

    Where there is no vision or plan, the people perish.

    Humpty Dumpty has had a great fall and no one can put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

    We are stuck borrowing till lenders get fed up with us, or we end up eating ourselves!!!!.

  31. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ Theo

    I knew a fellow years ago who dead now that wanted to buy a brand name car, but he wanted it cheap so he and the car salesman decided to under invoice the car cause the owner was an old doty man in his 80s that would not of known anyhow. To cut a long story short the fellow ended up getting the car for next to nothing, although it was worth several times what he paid. The salesman got his piece too ” for his trouble” and the old doty 80 year old man as the young people say ” get tek.”

    So tell me who was wrong there, the fellow that bought the car or the fellow that sell it? I mean we talking now years later bout a completely different situation of course, but your question just cause me to reminise about that old schemer i did know that dead now way back when. Funny how one thing does spur a memory bout a completely different issue aint it? Cant even remember the fellow name now it was so long ago.

    Wonder what ever became of that car though from all them years back? It was one big able long thing like a boat pun wheels!

  32. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @Theo
    “Black American investors have been hit especially hard because of higher exposure to digital assets, The Financial Times reports
    +++++++

    There is a CBC (Canada) radio program called the Cost of living and recently I listened to an interview about Crypto, it was an illuminating ten minutes.

    Its the third interview in this segment

    https://bit.ly/3NOm5gQ

  33. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “What did Mr Kinch do that was wrong?”

    well…..given the 100 year old history of the cabinet squatters……sellinging a property valued at 12 million for a mere 4 million MAY REQUIRE someone, the BUYER to pony up the remaining 8 MILLION….80%……for bribery purposes…..it’s expected……don’t have to be voiced…and if the buyer is not playing ball…OH, WELL..

    but ask the Fowls they will know the SCAM and the SCAMMERS better than i do..

    TLSN….me thinks it’s finally over for Boris, he apparently is now FORCED to resign, but before he did, he did us a solid by FIRING that scummy little FRAUD of a “levelling up secretary” who tried for the LAST 15 YEARS as then education secretary or whatever they call them…….to REWRITE THE LAST 500 YEARS OF HISTORY….and LIE about what happened to our ancestors…pity they can’t find something to JAIL HIM FOR…

  34. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    Bet ya the Barbados copycats won’t want to copy this,…..even after a hundred years of NO INTEGRITY, ETHICS OR MORALS…now you know why the island has been in a constant state of PARALYSIS….stagnation…and CORRUPTION..

    “LONDON (AP) — Prime Minister Boris Johnson has agreed to resign, his office said Thursday, ending an unprecedented political crisis over his future that has paralyzed Britain’s government.”

    no integrity, the government MUST GO…

  35. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Why can’t you be this way on other matters?

  36. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Was he forced out by the people or by power hungry persons of similar ilk?

    Bye bye, Boris! Next idiot! Most likely.

  37. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    politicians are LIARS that’s all they will ever be, all the vote beggars do once elevated to office is DECEIVE those who elected them…those people in Honduras must be very vigilant, these unstable crypto scams are nothing but FRAUD…designed to STEAL LAND and other assets….another form of colonization….watch them all race down to the islands to perpetrate same, because their other half of corruptors will welcome them…

    “It is alleged he is a Pan Africanist.”

    fake pan africanists have infected/infested the island since the 1930s, when they plagiarized and STOLE Marcus Garvey’s literary works etc… They are among the most disgusting pretenders…… who have DONE NOTHING TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF AFRIKANS on the island, they can’t show any evidence of doing anything worthwhile…..all they do is talk and look for the next opportunity to promote themselves, enrich themselves, just like the politicians who created that scam…..jokers, low class bourgeois pan africanists.

  38. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    I agree with the Donks. It’s been too long.

  39. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “The very same piece of beach the conniving and callous government sold for BDS$4 million.

    The similarities between this scandalous affair and the radical covid vaccines scheme jump out at you.”

    at least it’s now OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE…..we got cussed on BU for exposing this criminal behavior, selling taxpayer’s assets for PEANUTS….like if it’s their personal property.

    ..the people were not paying attention and MOST OF THOSE ASSETS ARE NOW ALL GONE..so, next logical step in the minds of the corrupt……take back what they stole/sold and SELL IT AGAIN…..they have a 100-year track record..

    the people need to start paying attention and standing up on these frauds…or lose…well, ya have nothing else to lose, it’s all GONE..

  40. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    TLSN is right……protesting will not help, they know the people on the island too well, they know their weaknesses…..time to surprise them, something they will never expect….but STRONG MINDS will have to be the ones to make those moves….and we already know how that goes, those who carry fear of politicians, can’t be trusted to stand up without running and leave one person in the spotlight holding the sign……….cowardly..

    that’s why i made that particular move……by myself….ya can only trust yaself to be successful in those types of endeavors….i do believe however, that the people in the diaspora will be more successful, because they have different ways and avenues to tap into…

    ..this is not like the UK where the embarrassment would cause an internal coup d’etat in parliament…and unseat the integrity lacking at all costs………”the nodding dogs” in the cabinet…..love that one…are too WEAK, and GREEDY for free salaries they don’t care anything about the people only about themselves and free pensions. They all sat and watch these thing happen repeatedly for DECADES, SAID NOTHING, DID NOTHING…self absorbed and selfish.

  41. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    If after all this time yall STILL don’t know politician’s WEAKNESSES and how to USE IT AGAINST THEM, as they use yours AGAINST YOU…WITH NO COMPUNCTION…….yall were too busy WASTING TIME on each other..

    .so ya better start learning REAL FAST…because they will NOT BACK DOWN..

  42. Lawson Avatar
    Lawson

    Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Come on man. They got to get the money for their pensions from somewhere it’s not like you guys want a tax increase

  43. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ WARU“
    They all sat and watch these thing happen repeatedly for DECADES, SAID NOTHING, DID NOTHING…self absorbed and selfish.”

    Same thing happening now.

    Nothing changes because we protect our political leaders at all costs.

    It’s party time: Topless and bottoms out.

  44. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “Nothing changes because we protect our political leaders at all costs.”

    let them keep protecting fraud and scamming AGAINST themselves, while on a blog attacking each other……they better learn politicians’ weaknesses REAL FAST and USE IT………it will be the easiest TAKE DOWN in history…once they learn HOW TO…

    the diaspora is doing its part…

  45. grace Avatar
    grace

    Well I don’t know what to say this morning

    The last few days we read about that poor family in St Philip.
    Then yesterday bout that body on Browns Beach.

    All I know far sue is Bajans under a lot of stress whether is stress them find or put themselves in or stress put on them unfairly.

    I don’t know if Kinch right or wrong but I would say something int looking good for the government because this matter stand too many years that it is obvious to dis ole girl that them hiding up something and them would not be hiding up unless they doing wrong.

    As to Mr Kinch I don’t know if he do any wrong and all of wanna that want to cast stones I hope you remember that poor family in St Philip and that poor soul on Browns Beach…. What if something happen to Mr Kinch or he family… How wanna going feel especially if yah judgement turn our wrong….. I supposed yah would not care because Bajans already show they heartless.

  46. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    William…these on BU can keep playing games with this and see where it leads them, because they will not want to listen to you, Pacha, TLSN or any of the other bloggers who can see WHAT this is and WHERE it is leading…

    they need to bear in mind that it’s them, their current and future generations who will be HEAVILY and NEGATIVELY IMPACTED…no one else, because everyone else would have MOVED AWAY from the dangerous treacherous politicians..

  47. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    grace,

    Don’t have a clue what you are on about! If you bring it on yourself, then my sympathy is somewhat limited.

    We have plenty of AVERAGE BAJANS, who have done nothing wrong, in the queue for caring before we get to Kinch, who may or may not have done something wrong.

    Most of them struggle on daily. I care more for them. Those who kill themselves do not need our sympathy. They are gone. My sympathy is extended to those who remain.

  48. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ WARU
    We are not playing games. This is how we are and who we are. Don’t fool yourself , we are extremely happy the way we are.
    Peace.

  49. David Avatar
    David

    @William

    Nonsense.

  50. Dullard Avatar
    Dullard

    @David

    WS is 100% correct. And you know it.

    You of all people must know that Bajans for the most part are delighted with the status quo. Apathetic, defeatist, disinterested, lacking seriousness. Preferring talk over action. Symbolism over real change.

    If you are still around, I can tell you with near certainty, what the top 4 or 5 issues you will be blogging about next year or in 5, 10, 50 years.

    Here is a hint: the same issues that you have been highlighting for the past decade and a half. You know this. And every right thinking person knows this.

    We like um so.

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