Businessman Frustrated by Government

In June 2020 the then Minister of the Environment Trevor Prescod led a team from government on a mission which uprooted 20 trees planted by owner Allan Kinch on beach land located along Carlisle Bay, Bay Street, St Michael. It was captured by Nation News. An interesting action by this government who launched “We Plantin” project in 2020 to plant ONE Million trees.

Minister of Environment and National Beautification, Trevor Prescod, planting a tree at Hope Plantation, St. Lucy, to mark the start of We Plantin’ More Than A Million National Tree Planting Project yesterday. (S.Forde-Craigg/BGIS)

https://fb.watch/e3lX9Lanej/

What the blogmaster does not understand is why the government seems ultra aggressive against developer Allan Kinch developing the property he purchased. Was it not known at the time of sale what was planned? There are usually several sides to a story but the blogmaster is yet to hear why Mr. Kinch is being frustrated in his quest to develop the property he legitimately purchased. It seems he is not even allowed to put out deck chairs other businesses in the area are allowed.

Instead we have an eyesore for an open space.

There is a lot more the blogmaster can and will post but reserves further comment for the moment.

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  • @ Africa online

    Thanks for reminding me of the Blue Horizon fiasco. Same dam story basically.

    Valuation done. Property sold for half of valuation and beach access across the road lost with it. Same issue as here except the discount is larger.

    So what is the recourse for us the true owners and shareholders in these “deals?” No one seems to understand that when we say government sold this and did that, that they in fact own nothing. It is us the taxpayers who own the assets.

    @ David

    If government did acquire the property they would pay based on the land tax value. Let me give you an issue that occured with a friend of mine. He sold a house below landtax value because it was all he could get for it and the family wanted the cash. When it reached the attorneys they advised him while the sale will go through based on the sale price, the transfer taxes etc will be charged based on the higher landtax value.

    So if government decided to acquire this land the purchase price would be the same land tax valuation. This probably would be at the last sale price still of the $4M kinch paid.

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  • Sorry John A, not following your argument at all.

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  • @ David

    I am saying if this government wanted to acquire the property they would pay the land tax value which probably would be $4M seeing that was the last recorded sale price.

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  • @John A

    The recorded sale price was agreed as part of a seales tender process was it not? Isn’t it a stretch to contend the land tax value was the consideration?

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  • Maybe the purpose of the tender process was to inject a higher number into the mix and confuse things!!

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  • BajanJuly 6, 2022 11:44 AM

    Ok Mr John so you like showing connections …… past connections. Like it is a crime to be a businessman in Barbados
    Why no mention that it was he who saved Bajan shareholders millions in the Massy takeover…. Continue to question and try to make a innocent man look guilty but the truths that come out about others you may not like

    ….. how about how other things connect. Do you think you or those reading this blog are ready to see how things truly connect in Barbados????

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’m not saying that the man is guilty of anything, just pointing out his connections.

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  • DavidJuly 6, 2022 7:17 AM

    The lot in question was owned by CLICO years ago?

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    JohnJuly 6, 2022 7:27 AM

    How did it get to CLICO??

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    BTW

    The property was probably at one time that of BS&T or Plantations … if it passed through CLICO!!!

    CLICO and Massy are both Trinidadian, another connection I would point out … and worthwhile bearing in mind.

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  • DPD,

    Speak for yourself! I do not like gossip. I like logical deductions and reasoning a la Hercule Poirot.

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  • @ David

    When ever the govermment is aquiring it is done at the current land tax value. That is the basis for the acquisition act. There is a difference between the state using acquisition and the state buying a property. If they are acquiring the land to secure beach access for the public it will happen at the land tax value. Same as if they were acquiring land for road improvement etc.

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  • @John A

    Was that the calculation for the liquidation center or was that a different animal.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @John
    The only ‘new’ was the 4 plantation holding co’s, and you know a lot more about plantations history and land than I do.
    @David
    I have no idea. All these issues have “roots”. It may well precede this land deal and/or have nothing to do with it.
    Developers all over are know to sail close to the wind

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  • @ David.

    I am fairly sure the land tax value was used there too. Remember it was said tongue in cheek that ” you didnt object when you was paying it so dont object now you getting paid at it.” Lol

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  • How can there be any defense for a prime asset being “surrendered” at a cost 80% below valuation? Even the most distressed real estate hardly sees these types of discounts. Utterly ridiculous.

    #failing state

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  • David

    You know that Kinch is in the business of selling land right? Years ago I purchased some land from him, and at the time he was also selling Yorkshire, so took us over there to see if we might like it better. He told us they purchased agriculture land and change the use to sell on as residential. He sold the land under market value and still made money because of the what he paid for it to begin with. He sold out the area as soon as he put it on the market. The lots started at 1 acer up to 6, so he didn’t break it down into small lots. I just see it as doing business.

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  • So let me get this straight…. If Mr Kinch is innocent in this and he is a victim which I believe he is. Should Mr Kinch then be victimized more by having had to pay taxes on land he never got to use of and pay lawyers and architects and for purchases for the planned project having had to pay all of these plus endure the victimization of being stripped of his rights and humiliated in the house of Parliment where defamatory comments were made and 7 years of his life already spent on this …. Is he to have endured all of that just to have what he paid thrown back at him or perhaps never returned as the government most often does when it comes to acquiring?
    Is this how you want your tax dollars spent?
    If this how you want your county to run and it’s citizens treated. Will you be happy if this were to happen to yourself or one of your loved ones?

    Would in not be better for the now government to communicate with Mr Kinch and resolve any outstanding concerns rather that continue to victimize him?

    The PM recently said something at a summit about meeting with those we disagree… I think she was saying something about the US should have invited Venezuela and Cuba….. as they say is not what is good for the Goose good for the Gander?
    Are those of you who support this saying that those victimized and abused should not receive compensation for their abuse?
    I guess that means you also don’t support reparations…… I for one certainly and wholeheartedly do.!

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  • @Bajan

    The challenge for Mr. Kinch is that most people do not see him as a victim.

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  • @David. How are you not a victim when someone sells you something continues to take money from you and you have nothing to show for it? I know if I by a car and pay in full for it and pay my insurance and tax every year and the dealership kept telling me no I can’t get in it, no I can’t driver it. I know I would feel victimized especially as it would have been bought to drive. Just as this land was bought with a purpose known to and supported by government .

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  • Note carefully what the blogmaster wrote. People generally will not see Mr. Kinch as a victim because he is perceived as a person of means. The fact that he sees himself as being shafted by government is irrelevant in their eyes.

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  • @ David

    Please direct me how i can become a victim please and pay 20 cents on the dollar the next time i see something for sale.

    Please i really really really want to be a victim badly! LOL

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  • @John A

    Does it matter the price paid if approvals sought by ‘victim’ to develop the property is denied?

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  • NorthernObserver

    @BAJAN
    So what did AK do to the pols to piss them off? These things just don’t happen.

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  • NorthernObserver

    Happen….out of the blue

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  • Tell Mr. Kinch to get in line! There are many more victims before him in the queue who don’t have the resources he still does.

    Fairness? Not a word known to the average Barbadian!

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  • Donks, Gripe and Josh

    Trevor Prescod name has been missing from the news does anyone know why?

    It is alleged he is a Pan Africanist.

    He ought be visible with the descent of young blacks into the cesspool hell of shootings, murders, drugs and serious crime against their own black brothers and sisters.

    For a long time successive governments sold beach front property secretly and cheaply to a certain type of person.

    These sales rob the majority of the population of the country’s wealth at the same time creating problems of beach access and inequality for mostly poor black people.

    No beach land owned by the taxpayers should be sold.

    At most a lease is possible .

    Only an overwhelming case where the country benefit’s massively should sale of government beach front be considered.

    Town hall meetings even referendums are in order before priceless real estate owned by the state is sold.

    Miss Ram needs to reopen her compulsorily acquired beach property case if as reported the Bay St. spot by the old eye hospital is on the market for sale for US$10 million .

    The very same piece of beach the conniving and callous government sold for BDS$4 million.

    The similarities between this scandalous affair and the radical covid vaccines scheme jump out at you.

    Miss Ram has to ask for at least US $30 million for where she was evicted from on the same Bay St given her land was larger. Fair is fair.

    This blogger don’t give a flying RH or a rats ass if the property was bought by one of the infamous Cattlewash mob or a chain hotel mogul.

    Government should buy back that piece of beach front for the price it is valued and reinstate the beach access for everybody black and white, tourists and locals.

    The present government is accountable to no one hence Bajans may have to march on the streets in numbers and protest against wrongs and injustice .

    The beach front rip offs of the peoples property are clear examples of skullduggery.

    If Prescod can be found we expect him to be a leader of the protests.

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  • @Donks, Gripe and Josh,

    Check the link below.. The time for protesting has long since gone.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/05/honduras-land-rights-fight-crypto-colonialists

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  • Taken from today ‘s New York Times
    “Black American investors have been hit especially hard because of higher exposure to digital assets, The Financial Times reports.

    A survey by Ariel Investments and Charles Schwab found that a quarter of Black investors owned crypto investments at the start of the year, compared with 15 percent of white investors.”

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  • That was surprising news for me. I suspect these are mostly young people.

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  • I am slow on these things

    What did Mr Kinch do that was wrong?

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  • Jesus, when an article like this one leaves you catspraddled then you know it is time to tell the nursing home to have your bones turned to glue.

    People talking nuff, but not saying anything.

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  • Lenny St. Hill (RIP) told me years ago that he was involved in the production of the first PDP in the 60’s.

    As Chief Town Planner he stuck by the PDP.

    If you applied for change of use in an area designated for that changed use, you got the permissions.

    If you applied for a change of use not envisaged by the plan, tough.

    Until he was instructed by his superiors that he was making it too easy for the wrong people to get permission!!

    Wound up not having his contract renewed.

    The result was some could get permissions for development and some could not depending on who you were.

    If you were anointed, you could offer at low agricultural prices, subject to change of use,

    You could get the change of use once the sale went through at the low price, flip some or all of the sale the same day to someone who would pay for the permissions and walk away making a tidy profit.

    Golden Mile Resorts and the Duffus Commission in 1976 was the first indicator as Barbados lurched down the slope to more and more corruption but there were earlier ones as well, Frere Pilgrim 1972, Husbands 1964, Lodge, Clermont etc etc etc..

    The result is clear today.

    Barbados is to small to operate like that without the destruction of the economy.

    Where there is no vision or plan, the people perish.

    Humpty Dumpty has had a great fall and no one can put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

    We are stuck borrowing till lenders get fed up with us, or we end up eating ourselves!!!!.

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  • @ Theo

    I knew a fellow years ago who dead now that wanted to buy a brand name car, but he wanted it cheap so he and the car salesman decided to under invoice the car cause the owner was an old doty man in his 80s that would not of known anyhow. To cut a long story short the fellow ended up getting the car for next to nothing, although it was worth several times what he paid. The salesman got his piece too ” for his trouble” and the old doty 80 year old man as the young people say ” get tek.”

    So tell me who was wrong there, the fellow that bought the car or the fellow that sell it? I mean we talking now years later bout a completely different situation of course, but your question just cause me to reminise about that old schemer i did know that dead now way back when. Funny how one thing does spur a memory bout a completely different issue aint it? Cant even remember the fellow name now it was so long ago.

    Wonder what ever became of that car though from all them years back? It was one big able long thing like a boat pun wheels!

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  • @Theo
    “Black American investors have been hit especially hard because of higher exposure to digital assets, The Financial Times reports
    +++++++

    There is a CBC (Canada) radio program called the Cost of living and recently I listened to an interview about Crypto, it was an illuminating ten minutes.

    Its the third interview in this segment

    https://bit.ly/3NOm5gQ

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “What did Mr Kinch do that was wrong?”

    well…..given the 100 year old history of the cabinet squatters……sellinging a property valued at 12 million for a mere 4 million MAY REQUIRE someone, the BUYER to pony up the remaining 8 MILLION….80%……for bribery purposes…..it’s expected……don’t have to be voiced…and if the buyer is not playing ball…OH, WELL..

    but ask the Fowls they will know the SCAM and the SCAMMERS better than i do..

    TLSN….me thinks it’s finally over for Boris, he apparently is now FORCED to resign, but before he did, he did us a solid by FIRING that scummy little FRAUD of a “levelling up secretary” who tried for the LAST 15 YEARS as then education secretary or whatever they call them…….to REWRITE THE LAST 500 YEARS OF HISTORY….and LIE about what happened to our ancestors…pity they can’t find something to JAIL HIM FOR…

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    Bet ya the Barbados copycats won’t want to copy this,…..even after a hundred years of NO INTEGRITY, ETHICS OR MORALS…now you know why the island has been in a constant state of PARALYSIS….stagnation…and CORRUPTION..

    “LONDON (AP) — Prime Minister Boris Johnson has agreed to resign, his office said Thursday, ending an unprecedented political crisis over his future that has paralyzed Britain’s government.”

    no integrity, the government MUST GO…

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  • Why can’t you be this way on other matters?

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  • Was he forced out by the people or by power hungry persons of similar ilk?

    Bye bye, Boris! Next idiot! Most likely.

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    politicians are LIARS that’s all they will ever be, all the vote beggars do once elevated to office is DECEIVE those who elected them…those people in Honduras must be very vigilant, these unstable crypto scams are nothing but FRAUD…designed to STEAL LAND and other assets….another form of colonization….watch them all race down to the islands to perpetrate same, because their other half of corruptors will welcome them…

    “It is alleged he is a Pan Africanist.”

    fake pan africanists have infected/infested the island since the 1930s, when they plagiarized and STOLE Marcus Garvey’s literary works etc… They are among the most disgusting pretenders…… who have DONE NOTHING TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF AFRIKANS on the island, they can’t show any evidence of doing anything worthwhile…..all they do is talk and look for the next opportunity to promote themselves, enrich themselves, just like the politicians who created that scam…..jokers, low class bourgeois pan africanists.

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  • I agree with the Donks. It’s been too long.

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “The very same piece of beach the conniving and callous government sold for BDS$4 million.

    The similarities between this scandalous affair and the radical covid vaccines scheme jump out at you.”

    at least it’s now OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE…..we got cussed on BU for exposing this criminal behavior, selling taxpayer’s assets for PEANUTS….like if it’s their personal property.

    ..the people were not paying attention and MOST OF THOSE ASSETS ARE NOW ALL GONE..so, next logical step in the minds of the corrupt……take back what they stole/sold and SELL IT AGAIN…..they have a 100-year track record..

    the people need to start paying attention and standing up on these frauds…or lose…well, ya have nothing else to lose, it’s all GONE..

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    TLSN is right……protesting will not help, they know the people on the island too well, they know their weaknesses…..time to surprise them, something they will never expect….but STRONG MINDS will have to be the ones to make those moves….and we already know how that goes, those who carry fear of politicians, can’t be trusted to stand up without running and leave one person in the spotlight holding the sign……….cowardly..

    that’s why i made that particular move……by myself….ya can only trust yaself to be successful in those types of endeavors….i do believe however, that the people in the diaspora will be more successful, because they have different ways and avenues to tap into…

    ..this is not like the UK where the embarrassment would cause an internal coup d’etat in parliament…and unseat the integrity lacking at all costs………”the nodding dogs” in the cabinet…..love that one…are too WEAK, and GREEDY for free salaries they don’t care anything about the people only about themselves and free pensions. They all sat and watch these thing happen repeatedly for DECADES, SAID NOTHING, DID NOTHING…self absorbed and selfish.

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    If after all this time yall STILL don’t know politician’s WEAKNESSES and how to USE IT AGAINST THEM, as they use yours AGAINST YOU…WITH NO COMPUNCTION…….yall were too busy WASTING TIME on each other..

    .so ya better start learning REAL FAST…because they will NOT BACK DOWN..

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  • Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Come on man. They got to get the money for their pensions from somewhere it’s not like you guys want a tax increase

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  • William Skinner

    @ WARU“
    They all sat and watch these thing happen repeatedly for DECADES, SAID NOTHING, DID NOTHING…self absorbed and selfish.”

    Same thing happening now.

    Nothing changes because we protect our political leaders at all costs.

    It’s party time: Topless and bottoms out.

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “Nothing changes because we protect our political leaders at all costs.”

    let them keep protecting fraud and scamming AGAINST themselves, while on a blog attacking each other……they better learn politicians’ weaknesses REAL FAST and USE IT………it will be the easiest TAKE DOWN in history…once they learn HOW TO…

    the diaspora is doing its part…

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  • Well I don’t know what to say this morning

    The last few days we read about that poor family in St Philip.
    Then yesterday bout that body on Browns Beach.

    All I know far sue is Bajans under a lot of stress whether is stress them find or put themselves in or stress put on them unfairly.

    I don’t know if Kinch right or wrong but I would say something int looking good for the government because this matter stand too many years that it is obvious to dis ole girl that them hiding up something and them would not be hiding up unless they doing wrong.

    As to Mr Kinch I don’t know if he do any wrong and all of wanna that want to cast stones I hope you remember that poor family in St Philip and that poor soul on Browns Beach…. What if something happen to Mr Kinch or he family… How wanna going feel especially if yah judgement turn our wrong….. I supposed yah would not care because Bajans already show they heartless.

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    William…these on BU can keep playing games with this and see where it leads them, because they will not want to listen to you, Pacha, TLSN or any of the other bloggers who can see WHAT this is and WHERE it is leading…

    they need to bear in mind that it’s them, their current and future generations who will be HEAVILY and NEGATIVELY IMPACTED…no one else, because everyone else would have MOVED AWAY from the dangerous treacherous politicians..

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  • grace,

    Don’t have a clue what you are on about! If you bring it on yourself, then my sympathy is somewhat limited.

    We have plenty of AVERAGE BAJANS, who have done nothing wrong, in the queue for caring before we get to Kinch, who may or may not have done something wrong.

    Most of them struggle on daily. I care more for them. Those who kill themselves do not need our sympathy. They are gone. My sympathy is extended to those who remain.

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  • William Skinner

    @ WARU
    We are not playing games. This is how we are and who we are. Don’t fool yourself , we are extremely happy the way we are.
    Peace.

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  • @William

    Nonsense.

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  • @David

    WS is 100% correct. And you know it.

    You of all people must know that Bajans for the most part are delighted with the status quo. Apathetic, defeatist, disinterested, lacking seriousness. Preferring talk over action. Symbolism over real change.

    If you are still around, I can tell you with near certainty, what the top 4 or 5 issues you will be blogging about next year or in 5, 10, 50 years.

    Here is a hint: the same issues that you have been highlighting for the past decade and a half. You know this. And every right thinking person knows this.

    We like um so.

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  • @Dullard

    Bajans are not delighted with the status quo, bajans are a passive aggressive people. This characteristic is informed by our lineage. There was a time it actually was promoted as positive when compared to other societies.

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “We are not playing games. This is how we are and who we are. Don’t fool yourself , we are extremely happy the way we are.”

    i know, so does everyone else who is honest with themselves…as Dullard said, the same things spoken about on BU for the last 10 YEARS and even longer, will be the running theme for another 10-20 YEARS….if people DO NOT GET UP AND ACT..

    this is GOSPEL!!
    “Bajans for the most part are delighted with the status quo. Apathetic, defeatist, disinterested, lacking seriousness. Preferring talk over action. Symbolism over real change.”

    they can pretty up the words as much as they want, the only reputation the people on the island have is one of DOCILITY when in comes to corrupt politicians and the minority crimunity……they can attack each other about EVERYTHING…..but are COWARDS when it comes to STANDING UP FOR THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS…and TAKING ACTION.

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    William…i spent 10 years doing RESEARCH and DUE DILIGENCE….it’s THEIR TURN NOW…or not….mine has served me well…..dah is dem bidness…

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  • Bajans are not delighted with the status quo, ….BUT….Bajans are brass bowls who think that they can just sit idly by, while some stranger will come riding in to rescue them from the crooked and incompetent politicians that THEY have REPEATEDLY elected themselves….
    in other words, we have planted bush and are expecting to reap sugar….

    Perhaps this is why Mia shutting down the whole sugar industry …and we going for 100% bush….

    BBs!!!

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  • William Skinner

    @ David
    You obviously are the only one equipped to have a position. There is nothing in my statement that contradicts what you say more often on this blog than anybody else.
    You are the one who consistently talk about a disinterested citizentry and the lack of interest in some topics that you raise here.
    You need to read what you write. You have often stated that the citizens are happy or appear happy with the status quo and now I say something similar, you jump out calling it nonsense.
    Do you actually think when you say it, it sounds any better or anymore convincing?

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  • @William

    Steuspe

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “.Bajans are brass bowls who think that they can just sit idly by, while some stranger will come riding in to rescue them from the crooked and incompetent politicians that THEY have REPEATEDLY elected themselves….”

    they are SHIT OUTTA LUCK…..

    while these were on here cussing and tormenting me, WASTING ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD cause they believe there is so much MORE TO WASTE, and it will NEVER END…….i was doing what they SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING TOO…

    so they better get to it now….chop, chop….or not…

    they betta save demselves…or not…not a fella, ESPECIALLY ME, int putting themselves out there like that for those who don’t LOVE themselves enuff to FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES…wuh sumbody else gine do it fuh dem……NEVER…

    am already out there in a capacity that could point the way..

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  • Africa. Ten years of research I think I remember that study. Was it the one where they were giving spinsters crack and lsd to see if they could still iron and do laundry.

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    Lawson….ya know it’s KARMA when yall start TALKING OUT WHAT YA DID…

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  • Nothing funnier than watching the misinformed egofowls strut bout the yard 🤣🤣🤣

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  • @enuff

    What are you referring to specifically?

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  • David
    Nuffin to do with the Kinch issue. I don’t run my mout about things I know nuffin about.

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  • That hairy taxi driver with the tear drops coming down one eye that may have said move bitch and I will kill you but was hard to tell because of mask available for a pick up at oistins. Asking for a single female friend Lol

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  • Can the person who answered the ad for available to wear cat suit and be stroked daily respond to Africa @ bu no taxi drivers

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    Pacha…things are not looking so great, looks like Jo’burg will be next to CRASH/COLLAPSE…the power grid is now very vulnerable and power cuts wreaking havoc….people are already starting to run..

    this thing is going to spread like wildfire..

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    Lawson…yall start back fracking yet…

    .remember what happened in Alberta in 2013..

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    PLTs remote work for Barbados is catching up with other jurisdictions…

    Jamaica and Trinidad would be years ahead…with their students who left Uni…….at least 10-20 years ago..

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  • In Barbados it was stolen by the government but in other jurisdictions it’s “catching on “ ?

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  • “sellinging a property valued at 12 million for a mere 4 million MAY REQUIRE someone, the BUYER to pony up the remaining 8 MILLION….80%……for bribery purposes”

    8 outta 12 is 80%? Lawd fadda that 10-year research must be a helluva read.🤣🤣

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  • [video src="https://barbadosunderground.files.wordpress.com/2022/07/carlisle_kinch.mp4" /]

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    no, it was not 80%…it was 95%….shitpick at that too…when ya done, got another number fuh yuh?

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  • Point 1

    2 different flights going to the same destination one selling for $400 one selling for $999
    Is the person who bought the ticket for $400 guilty of something

    2 different brands of rice selling in the supermarket. Both come from the same factory but are branded under two names one cost $11 one $23 both same weight.
    Is the persons who bought the one for $11 guilty of something

    2 different supermarkets selling the exact same product one for $2.50 one for $6.00
    Is the persons who bought the one for $2.50 guilty of something

    Point 2

    Our own Prime Minister gave a lesson in the value of Home Ownership at St. George Speaks 7th July 2022
    She spoke of how she mortgaged her town house in Boarded Hall and again in 14 years she mortgaged again. She was giving a lesson on why home ownership is good because the value your property goes up.

    The agreement to sell by the government under the DLP was done in 2015 and deposit paid and the purchase not completed until 2019 because of the government delaying it and now it is 2022 and the man is trying to sell it because he is fed up with not being able to get to use his land. As The PM explained when she was speaking about home ownership; the value of property goes up over time. The Time that has passed has been 7 years.

    Point 3

    I understand Mr Kinch offered the government to give some of the land back to the people of Barbados some time ago and put in some parking and beach facilities when the permissions are granted (Planning Gains)

    So lets see how this calculates…
    Mr Kinch buy a good deal,
    Mr Kinch paying land tax
    Over the years from the agreement to now the value would have gone up,
    Mr Kinch offered to give some back and put in facilities for the public when the project is approved. Planning gains is what it is called.
    Mr Kinch Trees get cut down that would have cost $$
    Mr Kinch rights to his land have been withheld from him and whilst he can not put beach chairs on his land and earn a dollar his neighbours can and they even put them on his land.

    So what’s the Government doing?????
    Sold the land
    Cut down the trees
    Slander the man’s name in Parliment and in the press
    Prevented him use of his land
    Collected Land tax
    Mislead the man and caused him to invest in something under false pretence that he would be able to use and develop his land. They are therefore preventing him from using his funds now tied up in this property that could be used other money making venues or investments.
    Now the government is silent like …….

    What more can we add to the above? Why is the the Government silent?

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  • 2 different flights going to the same destination one selling for $400 one selling for $999
    Is the person who bought the ticket for $400 guilty of something?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    When there is an underhanded scheme in place to bribe the salesman to gerrymander the system, for a promised kickback, then both the buyer and the crooked salesman are guilty of PLENTY.

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  • @BushTea

    You may have hit on something there but what if there was no underhanded scheme for Mr Kinch and just suppose there was an underhanded plan to sell to someone else who tendered for lower ….

    What if the plan was to sell to someone much lower and Mr Kinch without any knowledge got in the way because his bid was higher and because a lone person stood and said it must sell to the higher bidder .

    What would happen if that happened? What would happen if Mr Kinch stepped into a mess he did not know and none of the parties who possibly orchestrated it got anything they wanted?

    I mean surely if Mr Kinch was a such a orchestrator he would orchestrate planting trees and placing chairs without all this fuss…..

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  • @ Plain&Simple
    Touché….
    In all honesty, Bushie has had dealings with Mr Kinch and is highly inclined to your supposition as a result. He has always come across as down-to-earth and generally a VERY decent gentleman.
    The problem is not Mr Kinch per se, NOR is it that of those few other whites who display a sense of decency and personal integrity (even while endorsing the PRIVILEGES bestowed on them by CENTURIES of racist exploitation of other human beings.)

    The REAL PROBLEM is the lotta SHIITE BLACK OFFICIALS, who when given the POWER, and the CHANCE and the CHOICE to demonstrate what INTEGRITY, FAIRPLAY and RIGHTEOUSNESS looks like….
    …have instead CHOSEN to become JUST LIKE THE OLD EXPLOITERS and racist opportunists….
    …and have instead SOUGHT to cuss, and sideline Caswell, who shows them up for what they truly are…

    People like the shiite PS who enabled the Radical vaccine rip-off
    People like crooked Donville – and the MANY others like him (in HIGH Places) who have not yet been caught…
    People like those behind Four Seasons, CAHILL, The Chinese Houses SCAM, CLICO …and the LITANY of bribery, thieving and other malfeasance that we have come to accept as ‘normal’….

    Mr Kinch (Like Charles Herbert) may actually be quite innocent of the specific charges being leveled, but Karma has a way of including a LOTTA shiite which brass bowls THOUGHT had been forgotten….

    …so Bushie is prepared to stand corrected….

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  • @bushtea

    I suppose if we take a good look at it none of the regular infamous names that have been involved with much discussion on questionable deeds have faced the fate of Mr Kinch in Barbados. For them even those barred from entry in other counties it is full steam ahead. Or in cased of others contracts continue to flow….

    Only small time Donville get hold and not in BIM in BIM those that cause the poor to be poorer and cause the society to suffer are only rewarded for their continued wrong behavior.
    It does not look like that will change because it looks like even in this blog the commenters expect Mr Kinch to pay even in his innocence.
    Not until Barbadian are truly ready to stand up to injustice will things change. They sat and grumbled for long under Frundell.
    People need to learn not to wait until the Gangrene PM Mottley. Spoke about in Queens park spreads before they demand accountability. Just because the abuse has not yet visited your door don’t think it won’t and I would say indeed it is already affecting Bajans more than they know but perhaps they are now starting to see……

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  • Actually, Plain&Simple, neither you, nor Mr Kinch should be surprised at the response to this matter.
    When you have a society that has essentially become a MOB society, where the bribery and dishonesty is at the VERY Top, the people who suffer most are the prophets (like Caswell, who come right out with the TRUTH and let the chips fall where they will..) and then there are others who hope to be personally ‘honest and law-abiding’, while seeking to be successful within the MOB society. ….Trying to be in church and chapel at the same time…

    The ‘teflon kings and queens’ of such a society will always be the LEADING mobsters who control the mob and the PR….and their yardfowls

    The correct response of course would be to work for a JUST society first, and then for personal success within that society afterwards, but most do not have the courage for that approach….

    Understand that this whole mess is now in the process of being WRAPPED UP once and for all….
    The pity is that we have not had the spiritual intelligence to have made better choices….
    Water under the bridge.

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  • BushTea I agree with you

    It is far far far better to work for a Just society and betterment for all before working for success for ourselves. It is true that personal success better equips us financially to aid the society but sadly too many forget Society when they find “success”

    I hope that one day Bajans would be more Intrested in truly being their brothers keeper like the Prime Minister ask of us and looking out for the best for each other. We live on a small rock and we can either be our own worst enemy destroying each other or become the fuel to lead us all to great global success by standing as one……… Ah suppose I could dream …… dough that right now sound like a real far fetched dream

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  • Your dream WILL be realized …. and quite soon too…
    But under COMPLETELY different management…

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  • Oooooooo interesting thread – or web –
    Thing is you can lock up a thief, but you cyan lock up a liar. Most amusing comment from @Bajan is that scoundrel saved millions in Massy acquisition – bare pupppp. @John – preach buddy!!! And keep the pulpit alive with questions. . @Bajan – fools rush in where angels fear to tread, so you guh long and continue your foolishness and diatribe bout tings you really ent know nuffin bout. Youboi – my spelling almost as bad as yours – get tru with y’all lies and smoke and mirrors you can only run for so long before ya burse ya ass. I got some breadfruit to go cook but gyne check back here and see what rh longtalk in reply. Plenty more in that mortar for true.

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