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With only three weeks to guesstimate, a dispassionate analysis of the ruling party both at the constituency and Government level clearly shows that coattails washed in some dead weight in 2018. To be fair, the other lot had to go, but, 3 and a half years gives enough time to see who we were working with.

Disclaimer: These views do not take the opposing candidate into account unless there is a glaring reason to.

Who must and should go
————————————

Peter Philips – Did little to nothing for St. Lucy even after being planted in the Ministry of Housing.

Colin Jordan – Has done even less for labour than Esther Byer-Suckoo, go figure. A known name in St. Peter but little to no representation where it matters most.

Dale Marshall – Wins the award for being contradicted the most by the PM, for paying out the most taxpayers money SECRETLY even after winning a case twice and the most bungled rollout and retraction of recent laws. St. Joseph has sucked salt (without water) for too long

Sandra Husbands – Sandra who?

Neil Rowe – Coattails worked in 2018. Neil’s abundant and extraordinary weakness as an MP and a candidate are profound. The alternative is better by far.



William Duguid – For selfishly refusing to pass the baton and for being the worst Transport Minister ever. Didn’t do much better in housing either except for giving away contracts to Mark Maloney and money to the Chinese.

Indar Weir – Big talk, little action. St. Philip South hasn’t been this neglected since a certain former PM.

Ryan Straughn – Has done little to nothing for Christ Church East Central. Admittedly he was working with the 5 other Ministers of Finance, 4 consultants and reps from White Oak to increase debt and shaft voters with bonds every chance they get. Who has time to serve lowly constituents in all of that!

Sonia Browne – Nice lady. Should stick to the medical profession. Politics and politicking clearly didn’t work out for her.

Who can go back home
———————————-
Kay McConney – No amount of unilateral Constitutional changes can gloss over her being dead weight at the constituency level.

Rommel Springer – Just like the DLP’s Harry Husbands Dr. R only warmed a seat and did nothing in the education ministry for just over $180,000 a year



Who could go but won’t
———————————–

Edmund Hinkson – Backbencher extraordinaire aided and abetted by George. St. James North will no longer have a voice

Toni Moore – for pure betrayal of workers and shameless capitulation to capital and political expediency.

Charles Griffith – Nice fella, but you can only do so much after so many big promises.

Wilfred Abrahams – Waste of time, but the alternative is far worse. Far far far worse.

Ralph Thorne – Was never really a Bee but if the train is moving then roll with it!

Kirk Humphrey – For only showing up when a camera is around or too much noise is kept. Not to mention totally neglecting “certain specific” parts of his constituency

Who should stay due to good national appeal, constituency work, general competence or all the above
——————————

  • Mia Mottley
  • Adrian Forde
  • Marsha Caddle
  • Ian Gooding-Edghill
  • Santia Bradshaw
  • Arthur Holder
  • Trevor Prescod – Even though he now has to hold his nose and support his leader
  • Dwight Sutherland
  • Kerrie Symmonds
  • Cynthia Forde

New toss ups with nothing on which to assess
——————————————————————–

  • Corey Lane
  • Davison Ishmael
  • Christopher Gibbs

There you have it. An objective 19-11 or 18-12 government come January 20, 2022 with the power to change Constitution no longer in the hands of one person or party.

Long live the Republic!!!

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221 responses to “19-11 for BLP after Jettisoning Dead-weight?”

  1. alvincummins Avatar
    alvincummins

    Mia pulled a Sandie on the BLP. Interesting times ahead.

  2. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    If DLP win some seats and lose the election will that be viewed as a copacetic result and an improvement in their standing
    Will losing the election be the end of Verla Depeiza’s leadership of DLP

  3. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    I am deeply concerned about the proper conduct of the elections. There is a danger of vote rigging.

    The DLP is currently without financiers from the private sector. It must remain that way.

    If our white businessmen try to manipulate the elections for the DLP through generous donations, as they did in 2008 and 2013, it is imperative that our government must resort to repression against certain minorities. Any disloyalty to leader and party must be brutally corrected.

  4. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    Game of Thrones Barbados Stylee

  5. John2 Avatar
    John2

    Peter phillips was only In housing a few months and probably more than Kelly for hiw long?

    Begging for a Seat for the Nightwish watchman?

  6. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    To make a proper comeback DLP have to win 30-0

  7. Michelle D Carrington Avatar
    Michelle D Carrington

    The Barbados Labour Party is going to win the next General election 2022.The Democratic Labour Party has to rebuild with a better Leader.But my predictions of the election BLP 25 SEATS DLP 5.MUCH

  8. W T F Avatar
    W T F

    Please fix the feedback buttons.

  9. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    I went 23-7, totally without reason months ago, and will stick with it.
    Likely a very low voter turnout, will aid incumbents.

  10. John2 Avatar
    John2

    Michelle

    Mene the give seats or candidates you think dlp will win

  11. John2 Avatar
    John2

    Name the seats or give the candidates

  12. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    15-15 plus/minus

  13. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    @ Michelle D Carrington December 29, 2021 9:37 PM

    Every parliamentary seat for the DLP could possibly indicates serious electoral fraud, for example through votes bought by drug barons, white plantation owners or white businessmen.

    People, guard the polling stations on election day and watch out for local businessmen hanging around to buy votes from naïve citizens!

    We must defend democracy and not be fobbed off with any formal rights as in 1834, while minorities continue to pull strings in the background to bring the DLP back to power. It is only with the DLP that our well-known businessmen continue to exploit the black masses and suck their blood.

  14. David Avatar
    David

    Low voter turnout likely

    by COLVILLE MOUNSEY
    colvillemounsey@nationnews.com

    TWO PROMINENT political scientists are warning that the COVID-19 pandemic is likely to impact on voter numbers for next month’s snap election, noting that a lower-thannormal showing at the polls could be very much on the cards.
    According to Senior Lecturer in Political Science at the University of The West Indies (UWI), Cave Hill, Dr Kristina Hinds, with the number of people disenchanted and fatigued by the pandemic, motivation to head to the polls is likely in short supply. Additionally, she noted that with the Omicron variant at Barbados’ doorstep, the country faces the very real possibility of a surge in positive cases, possibly prohibiting voters from exercising their franchise.
    Sharing a similar point of view was Dr George Belle, who told the DAILY NATION that political parties contesting the election would need to think outside of the box this time around in order to drum up voter enthusiasm.
    “The pandemic certainly complicates this election, especially this Omicron variant. We have to bear in mind that there may be people who may be willing to vote, who may want to vote, but would be unable to turnout if they test positive for COVID-19. Additionally, I believe that the pandemic has caused a lot of fatigue and discontentment and this may certainly affect voter turnout. So I want to put Barbadians on notice that in this election we may see a much lower voter turnout than we might otherwise expect,” said Hinds.
    However, Belle said even though the decision to hold elections next month was a risky proposition, the timing might have been a well calculated gamble by Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley, who is adamant about securing a fresh mandate from the people in 2022.
    “The coming of this Omicron variant that is spreading so quickly, the number of positive cases that it can produce can certainly cause complications. The normal expectation is that the variant might hit us in another month or two due to the number of tourists coming from the destinations where this thing is rampant. Once it starts to spread here, those numbers are going to severely impact what can be done in 2022, therefore I think the idea was to do the election as early as possible as there was no telling what would occur for the rest of the year,” said Belle.
    Low turnout
    He pointed out that low voter turnout would redound to the benefit of the opposition parties, albeit not to the extent that it was likely to result
    in a regime change. He further noted that the ruling Barbados Labour Party has to be also guarded against complacency, as most persons hold the view that it is a foregone conclusion that they would be returned to power.
    “If you go through the list there are reasons why the possibility exist that there could be low voter turnout this election. A lot is now going to come down to the campaign because if you have COVID out there and people are being told to stay at home and you have less communication capacity to reach the electorate, this can certainly depress the voter numbers. Added to that, if supporters of the Government are complacent, telling themselves that the opposition is in such shambles that they posed no major threat, then you have even greater conditions for a low turnout at the polls,” said Belle.
    The retired UWI lecturer added: “The concern in this campaign has to be centred around how to bring people out. I don’t think it matters much for the opposition when the turnout is low because a low turnout would benefit them more than the Government. The Government has to have a high turnout if it wants to maintain a high number of representatives in Parliament. Right now there is likely to be fallout for the BLP in about two or three constituencies. If you get a low turn out then it is an almost certainty that those constituencies are likely to go under.”


    Source: Nation

  15. David Avatar
    David

    DLP tactics about reclaiming seats

    THE BROAD CONTEXT of the coming General Election will revolve around the total defeat of the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) in the last election and the relative prominence of the leadership profile of the current Prime Minister and leader of the ruling Barbados Labour Party (BLP), Mia Amor Mottley.
    Much of the effort of the DLP will be to convince the electorate that they can be restored to office one term after the disastrous 2018 showing.
    It is expected that the DLP will adopt two approaches. The first will be to appeal to its traditional base to “come back home”, playing on civic sensitivities of the need for a formal Opposition as part of the normal functioning of a “healthy democracy”.
    The DLP will capitalise on the assumption that the 30-0 Parliament was an aberration and that the voters will be eager to “return” to normal.
    Relatedly, the DLP’s second approach will revolve around demonising Mia Mottley around questions of “authoritarianism”, “one-womanism”, and megalomania.
    Issues such as her internal power-playing around candidate selection, by-elections, her consolidation of superfluous and bloated special public relations circles and her own personal strength and capacity will be used as anti-Mia fodder in any election.
    Related to this will be the DLP’s traditional ideological critique of the BLP as a friend of internal and global elites and its marshalling of public policy in the interests of these elites.
    The recent scandal involving a private sector player and the importation of vaccines, which occurred under the watch of the BLP, will be a critical issue on DLP platforms during the campaign, painting the BLP as an appeaser of elite interests.
    This will no doubt be contrasted against the dismissal of the overtly pro-black Trevor Prescod from the Cabinet and the ongoing actions against local black businessman Anderson Cherry, which
    will be presented as an attempt to crush, rather than assist.
    For its part, the BLP will be contesting the election with a major advantage: leadership. It will be difficult to deny or match the profile and status of Mottley as a rare and once-in-a-life-time regional and global leader rooted in Caribbean consciousness.
    Moreover, the complete defeat of the DLP in the last election will prove to be a deep hole out of which to climb in such short order.
    The BLP will fight the election as the party of “government”, policy innovation, modernisation, and as the steady hand required for the present challenges.
    In short, an election will be clear-cut. Barring no major changes, the election will not be about whether the BLP loses, but how many seats the DLP will be able to reclaim.

    Tennyson Joseph is a political scientist at the University of the West Indies, Cave Hill Campus, specialising in regional affairs. Email tjoe2008@live.com

  16. John Avatar
    John

    This is written by someone who doesn’t have a clue about the representation of the people and is just expressing a wish list of who he/she wants to stay or go.

    Waste of time.

    Let’s take COVID to understand how the representation of the people works..

    We know from the Minister of Health that most of the cases are in the Southern Corridor.

    The Southern Corridor will be across several constituencies whose representative seems to be totally ignorant or uncaring of this simple stark fact.

    The representatives in other unaffected constituencies are quite satisfied to let the economic vagaries of COVID visit their constituencies without doing one blessed thing.

    Worser yet, all have conspired to keep the information on location of cases away from their constituents.

    On this simple fact alone, I would say all must go.

    Unemployment is another issue.

    Where in Barbados is it the worstest?

    No one knows, no one cares.

    Crime?

    Which are the constituencies that suffer most from these three of many issues facing the island.

    The representatives of the people in these constituencies need to go.

    Their performance should be judged on results.

    They should be hanging their heads in same.

    COVID is a matter of life and death for many.

    How many of the 260 deaths, yup 260 deaths, occurred in whose constituency?

    Those representatives need to go as a priority.

  17. Crusoe Avatar
    Crusoe

    DLP is same old. Oldsters will backraise Verla at the earliest opportunity.

    You really think Estwick going take a back seat to her? You mad or whuh?

    Sealy seen by many as the heir to the DLP throne.

    Lowe..but wait..he actually back again? Wunna smoking that new stuff de fellas growing on these new farms, or whuh?

    DLP could not run a snocone cart.

  18. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    I did not read this because i do not want to be reading people’s personal information but tell me this is not true that people,name, address ID#s etc is not online for the world to see. Tell me barbadostoday made an error. If true, what more do you need.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/12/29/preliminary-voters-list-available-online/?fbclid=I

  19. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    TIEFING salaries TIEFING taxpayer’s and pensioner’s money…ALL DEAD WEIGHT…all need jettisoning…they are no their to represent the people, only to pad their bank accounts and wait for the next minority-led scam..

  20. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    I hate all the Chinese haters and if I were to categorise this prejudiced group I would call them white.

    Which begs the question what is the difference between white peoples propaganda and white peoples racism and what defines the fine line and overlap between the two psychologically.

    Anyway it’s time to do some exercising researching and practicing stuff like Tai Chi like a Buddhist monk in a Shaolin temple.

    [SHAOLIN MASTER] Shi Heng Yi – The Goal of the Shaolin Temple

    SHAOLIN MASTER SHI HENG YI | HOW TO STOP GETTING TRIGGERED AND STAY FOCUSED

  21. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    (Chinese) Martial Arts
    Mia has challenged DLP to a fight
    If DLP can fight they should fight
    If DLP can’t fight they should run away

  22. Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV Avatar
    Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV

    http://www.caribbeanelections.com/bb/elections/bb_results_2018.asp

    Using a more ,shall I state a statistically and qualitative backing to my guesstimates than that original poster did, The DLP will struggle to win 3 seats in the next election if any at all. The 2018 election was an unusual election as the DLP was overwhelmingly rejected. From memory the DLP only won 2 boxes in the entire election. A poll would tell us the national swing for or against the incumbent BLP govt. That would give us a gauge as how many BLP seats are in “danger”. However with most the the seats won with 66% or more of the constituency vote, the amount of swing needed needed after 3 1/2 years would just be as historic as the 30-0.
    The only other notable factor to consider is that a few of BLP incumbents are not running again. In those constituencies both of the major parties will be fielding mostly new candidates. Miss Mottley would be depending on the incumbents significant share of the constituency vote as a cushion to help those new candidates to victory.

    Interestingly IN MY OPINION Mr Atherley MAY win back his seat due to the specific dynamics in the constituency. He won on a BLP ticket with 77% of the vote. The (new ?) candidates from the Bees and the Dees have had little time campaigning to erode that mandate he gained in the 2018 election. Depending on what happens, we will see how much of Mr Atherley’s support was due to his (former) party’s association or to his “popularity”. Mr Atherley is considered a veteran candidate running in the constituency since 1999 Out of the 5 general elections he contested in he won 3 times and lost 2 times for the BLP

    IN MY OPINION the 3 seats that I see that are “in the air” are St Michael North West, St. Phillip North and St. John. This is because

    1) These incumbents had the smallest victories in their constituencies Neil Rowe (55%) Charles Griffith (58%) and Sonia Browne (64%). These seats were considered DLP strongholds in previous elections.

    2) I see these as the most “minor” of the BLP incumbent candidates and ran for the first time in 2018.

  23. David Avatar
    David

    Actually Gibbs has been working in the constituency for some time, spending money too.

  24. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    Remeber when we were kids and didn’t see colour
    This election should be a #BlackLivesMatter theme
    #Protests #AroundTheWorld
    #blacklivesmatter #protest #blm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2o15RCtSS0

  25. Crusoe Avatar
    Crusoe

    What 11 in DLP? They do not know if they are coming or going.

    The oldsters, four of whom are trying their hand again, tried to replace Verla with the Reverend and got soundly rejected by the DLP members.

    But they refuse to back off. What does that tell you about the DLP direction?

    If they had a chance at the polls and won, no way would Verla be PM, would be cat xiss an peppa.

  26. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    (Quote):
    Sealy seen by many as the heir to the DLP throne. (Unquote).
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Given Richard’s performance as Tourism minister and his highly-placed social connections in the constituency (and nationally) his claim to the DLP throne can be justified.

    But Estwick always had his eyes on the job of MoF even if only as the ‘Shadow’ on the Opposition benches to grandstand as he did against OSA.

    Don’t you think that he Estwick, up against a political novice, stands a better chance of returning to Parliament than Sealy?

    It would be interesting to see, once more, a ‘real’ Opposition in Parliament comprising of Sealy, Estwick and Ronnie Yearwood carrying the battle to a slimmed-down BLP government given the very challenging economic times ahead for Barbados and the harsh decisions with their consequential heavy measures which must be to be implemented in 2022 if the newly-formed RoB is to stave off ‘sovereign’ bankruptcy.

    Will the Cave Hill Campus- in its current financing format- survive the coming financial bomb?

  27. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Don’t know how anyone could find politics exciting it’s so GODDAMN BORING and teaches you nothing except lot of long talk about a bunch of old farts…..who all still end up as DEAD WEIGHT sucking on taxpayers, tiefing and selling them out…..RoB…TIEF TOO MUCH…

    is it true they got another 90 million dollar IMF loan…..guess who does not own the country, it’s being managed by those whose money yall spending……the space is now on LOAN…

  28. David Avatar
    David

    @Miller

    No room for new blood?

  29. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    Did anyone give the Bishop credit?
    https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/11/06/atherley-predicts-election-to-precede-new-imf-deal/

  30. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    At least 2 people told me it’s true about the names, addresses, ID#s date of birth of preliminary voters being online…..all = IDENTITY THEFT scenarios…

  31. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Miller, oh me oh my … re “It would be interesting to see, once more, a ‘real’ Opposition in Parliament comprising of Sealy, Estwick and Ronnie Yearwood carrying the battle to a slimmed-down BLP government given the very challenging economic times ahead for Barbados”.

    Oh how quickly we forget … aren’t these the same ‘real’ governing officials who bumbled their way through “challenging economic times” during the years of their tenure!

    Well. I presume with that background, they will be very ‘real’ about exactly how this admin is effing up … so maybe you are spot on!

    The craziness of local politics in real living colour … where else are we going to go but… backwards … to go forward. It’s what it is!

    @David, two other notes …
    1)Bro can you PLEASE regig your ‘feedback’ button(s) … on a small phone screen it’s difficult to see with ONE continually ‘up front’ but now there are TWO.

    You are the guru in this area but my non expert recommendation would be to reduce the button to the area next to the ‘post comment box’ after the initial POP UP….

    What happens is that the one at the bottom of the screen jumps into middle as soon as the screen ‘keyboard’ is activated and the other one is then also ‘in the way’.

    And 2) these were heady words from the UE don: “It will be difficult to deny or match the profile and status of Mottley as a rare and once-in-a-life-time regional and global leader rooted in Caribbean consciousness.”

    Once-in-a-life-time, eh. Wow! Is he her biographer!

    I gone.

  32. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Since they love slick talk, big talk and NUFF NUFF LIES coming from FROTHING political mouths, they will hardly read what Atherley said let alone give any credit..

  33. David Avatar
    David

    @DL&P

    This election is difficult to call because of how the pandemic has interfered. Also the 30-0 drubbing is a concern for many who prefer a real opposition in parliament.

  34. David Avatar
    David

    @Dee Word

    Thanks, will have a look.

  35. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    Also the 30-0 drubbing is a concern for many who prefer a real opposition in parliament.

    30-0 is a killing maybe the way to go is rebranding a new party and forming a coalition of opposition

  36. David Avatar
    David

    @Dee Word

    Switched it to ‘hover mode’. Does this work better?

  37. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    That’s just one reason i don’t like politics, it MAKES people who are already challenged…STUPID….family member told me minutes ago, wuh i saw your name address, ID#s DOB everything was on there too……am like what the hell you talking about, and to make things worse, the young people WHO HAVE NEVER VOTED or REGISTERED TO VOTE their names were up there too….thankfully they TOOK IT DOWN…..but not before it MADE THE ROUNDS ON SOCIAL MEDIA LAST NIGHT..

  38. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    Waru

    Electoral register rolls are in public domain for anyone to view

  39. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David …. I have used this word too much in last few days … so excuse it here again but …. WOW!

    Absolutely works better!🙏🏿.

    Like the proverbial witch’s love potion … full on in love with it now!😇

  40. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    This is starting to look like ..HOW TO TIEF AN ELECTION 101….am sure a TON of DEAD PEOPLE are also preparing to cast their vote on the 19th….

    watched a video last night and the dude was WARNING us about this….hours later, this is exposed..

  41. David Avatar
    David

    Steuspe

  42. David Avatar
    David

    It is interesting all political parties were invited to the Brasstacks program this morning and the two main protagonists dubbed the DUOPOLY found excuses to avoid Walter Blackman LOL.

    What does it say?

    It says what we already know.

  43. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    “Electoral register rolls are in public domain for anyone to view”

    nonsense…i voted once in my life, proof is sitting in federal lock up…my name AND PERSONAL DETAILS shoudl not be on any electorate roll….after 5 years or a little longer it should BE REMOVED, especially if ya never voted again, it’s been 13 YEARS……..besides young people WHO NEVER REGISTERED TO VOTE ended up on that list making the social media rounds……..you are only on the list if YA REGISTERED…

    some jackass grabbed young people’s names from DMV….licensing authority and put it out there…

    goddamn fowl shit for brains…only a Slave would be that dumb..

  44. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    I was absolutely NOT going to put this video out there but since they dont want to play fair…. dont think people should be marching with this highly infectious variant around but he has a point about BARRING/BANNING DBLP CLOWNS from ever entering the parliament again…give other people a chance to show their worth and if they fail…kick their asses out too….from. the free money train and shite titles..

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=256198443125447&id=100072420654922&sfnsn=mo

  45. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    “goddamn fowl shit for brains…only a Slave would be that dumb..”

    there are no slaves it is an overused trope already there are brain damaged people who have only been able to vote and participate in society for 70 years and are angry and vent a lot and make narrow minded conclusions who need to think deeper and understand information and data no names mentioned to protect the guilty and mad loons our there foaming at the mouth with spit running down gibe the nutters a wide berth you cannot reason with the stupid and closed mind I and I say

  46. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    why call yourself a black bajan or a black african
    when knowledge is about being a stupid black or a clever black

  47. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    in fact life is for humans
    not shades

  48. Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV Avatar
    Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV

    David December 30, 2021 10:20 AM
    Well Walter Blackman aka Vaccine Scam Man represents the DEMS so it is just the BLP that didn’t send a representative.

    David December 30, 2021 9:28 AM
    That will most likely translate to a lower voter turnout in general. Anticipating that, are people that motivate en masse to vote for the DLP period and regard them AT THIS TIME as a real opposition?

  49. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    ” Anticipating that, are people that motivate en masse to vote for the DLP period and regard them AT THIS TIME as a real opposition?”

    extremists will always vote
    so people will still need to participate to stop the shittiest coming into power due to lack of interest / low turnout

  50. David Avatar
    David

    @DL&P

    There are some unknowns possibly at play during this election. Assumptions based on historical data must be used cautiously.

    You are too harsh concerning Walter. He has a valid point about the ignorance of rhr standing minister of health not knowing details about the Maloney Vaccine Scam.

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