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Submitted by Sherry Hosein Singh

Some misguided Indians claim that they are Black, ignoring the fact that they are really Coloured or Brown. They blindly see only two colours in an artist’s palette: black and white. They even foolishly brag that “if you not White, you Black”, again failing to see that Chinese and Hispanics cannot fit into these extreme race categories. On the other hand, Blacks categorize Indians as Blacks for political convenience. 

For those Indians who insist that they are Black, here’s is a slap in their face. The Black Consciousness Festival was celebrated last week (11-13/6/21) with a focus on Reparations for Slavery, not including Indentureship.

The presenters were People of African descent and Indigenous descendants from the USA, Cuba, Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Haiti and France. Its release stated: “The conversations around reparations are important as they seek to build awareness and raise consciousness for our healing and for our agency in this space to chart our destiny as persons of African descent.

“The Black Consciousness Festival provides a global online platform for the celebration and sharing of vital histories and stories that boost the awareness and impact the pride, power and practices of People of African descent.”

The speakers from Trinidad included Earl Lovelace and Nicholas Ward. Guyana was represented by Sule Collymore. Indo-Trinidadian Historian Professor Brinsley Samaroo was not invited to speak although he boasts that he was in the forefront of the 1970 Black Power Movement in Trinidad, locked in arms with Makandal Daaga and Khafra Khambon.

Indo-Guyanese-born Professor, Dr David Dabydeen’s name was also not on the programme, although he is the author of books with titles such as The Oxford Companion to Black British History; Black Writers in Britain; 1760-1890; Hogarth’s Blacks: Images of Blacks in 18th-Century English Art; A Reader’s Guide to West Indian and Black British Literature; The Black Presence in English Literature; and Slave Song.

This second edition of the Black Consciousness Festival Series was done in collaboration with the Africa Film Festival in Trinidad and Tobago.

Sincerely,

Ms. Sherry Hosein Singh


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91 responses to “Indians NOT Considered Black and Excluded in Reparations Talks”


  1. Apartheid and Segregations signs said

    “Whites Only”
    and
    “Non-Whites Only”

    and Great Britain USA and South Africa discriminated against Indians in the same way as Blacks

    I man concur Reparations for Slavery is much more important than Reparations for Indians from Colonialism which should be treated as a separate issue that should be put in the freezer until Blacks receive their dues for the wickedness of Slavery and White Devil’s trickery for over 20 generations declaring them non-human with no rights.

    However Reparations for American Indians aka Native Americans is also an important issue that needs addressing as Colonial Government in USA committed genocide and had a War on Indians offering bounties for their scalps as part of their manifest destiny falsely believing that God was white like them.

    As an advocate of Indians I would say theire indentured worked brought the ganja seeds to Caribbean that make the dreads sing and jump and rise up against wicked babylonians

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  3. 555dubstreet

    Yes South Africa discriminated against the large East Indian population in South Africa, but Mahatma Gandhi who left England as a young lawyer for South Africa to represented the large East Indian population in South Africa, took an affront to the facts that the White apartheid South African compared the Black South African to the East Indian.

  4. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    India was colonized by the British, they need to take up the issue of reparations DIRECTLY with the UK, they were NOT ENSLAVED but indentured to 13 colonies across the Americas for indentured cane field services AFTER the “abolition” of African slavery…

    it’s not a conversation for African people and has nothing to do with them. and definitely has nothing to do with Africa, particularly since the poison and scourge of racism is so embalmed in the Indian psyche that they have no problem doing the DIRTY WORK for colonial racists and direct their own wicked brand of RACISM at Africans across the region..

  5. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    BTW…the First People’s of the region, whom both Black and Indian politicians love to pretend don’t exist also have a SOLID claim for reparations, it’s their region and they are directed descended from the original inhabitants, they and the Africans descended from the Mali Empire who were in the Americas for thousands of years before Europeans entered the picture.

    They have full claim on the Caribbean..


  6. @ WURA-War-on-U June 16, 2021 9:00 AM
    (Quote):
    BTW…the First People’s of the region, whom both Black and Indian politicians love to pretend don’t exist also have a SOLID claim for reparations… (Unquote).
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Not only a “SOLID claim” but the first and foremost since they, the indigenous people pre-Columbus, were not only enslaved but also suffered genocide by way of violence and viral diseases brought to them by the arrival of the European pale skins.

    Barbados once had an Amerindian cultural presence.
    Where is it today other than being wiped out by the English savages through violence and diseases?

    Why not carry out an archaeological dig at the Spring Garden area especially that cursed site now called the Four Seasons nightmare?

  7. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “Why not carry out an archaeological dig at the Spring Garden area especially that cursed site now called the Four Seasons nightmare?”

    they all believe our ancestors have time to play games with them.


  8. Well, in the 1880s the Chinese Exclusion Act was passed by the still slave colonies of the the USA, limiting immigration of Chinese, especially to California.

    Coming at a time the Chinese refer to as The Great Interregnun. For them it was a time after the imposition of The Opium Wars by the British and others, cultural domination, military invasions.

    In the last 4500 years the Chinese are said to have been the preeminent world power for about 2 millennia. This cannot be said about India or indians.

    There was also a time amongst the Greeks and less so the Romans, at a later period, when everybody wanted to be seen as Afrikan,, as African Gods were worshiped, Greeks and Romans bragged of being educated at the great Afrikan centers of learning.

    Maybe, Indians, will at some point n the future return to a. Kemetic understanding, but we highly doubt.

  9. Grafton Clarke Avatar

    No original thought. Does not merit masters degree.

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  10. “Blacks categorize Indians as Blacks for political convenience.”
    Sherry Hosein Singh.
    Sherry is a misguided Asshole.

  11. Nathan 'Jolly' Green Avatar
    Nathan ‘Jolly’ Green

    Grafton Clarke, people like you who have to try and prove Africans had some great learning resource in the past sows the seeds of nonsense that actually comes across as complete nonsense. The Egyptians were the great educators some people try and weave them into being African, they were not.

    Please show us the evidence, or reference sources for the statements you wrote.

  12. Nathan 'Jolly' Green Avatar
    Nathan ‘Jolly’ Green

    Sorry Grafton, that was meant for Pachamama


  13. @ Nathan ‘Jolly’ Green June 17, 2021 3:35 PM
    (Quote):
    The Egyptians were the great educators some people try and weave them into being African, they were not. (Unquote).
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So ‘what’ then were the “Egyptians”?
    European or Indian or Chinese or from some planet in the constellation of Orion?

    Unless the continents have changed in the last 12,000 solar years Kemet has always been located ‘North’ on the continent of Africa.

    Your teacher, Thoth.

  14. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Miller.. the blog is infested with idiots who know nothing about ancient Kemet…and spreading wrong information…deliberately…worse if they are black and spewing that shit..

    the older heads are so brainwashed with bad information…that it’s only the youths who can save the day…

  15. Nathan 'Jolly' Green Avatar
    Nathan ‘Jolly’ Green

    Black people for reparations are those people whos ancestors were shipped from West African, as negreo slaves. East Indians do not get to share in the reparations. In fact I am not sure how anyone can qualify without a DNA test and showing they are pure African and not a mixture of white man, East Indians, and many other races. Also to be considered are all the Africans that came since abolition as free men. The whole thing is pretty nonsensical really. After abolition there were many West Africans who came and stayed in the Caribbean and the Americas called the Kru Tribe. Saint Vincent received thousands of them and they bred with the ex-slave women there, because most of the ex-slave men went off to Trinidad to work and never returned. I do not know if this happened in Barbados. But is certainly makes a mockery of the reparations claims in SVG, which is headed by a white man.

  16. Nathan 'Jolly' Green Avatar
    Nathan ‘Jolly’ Green

    Miller, well what they were not was negro, although there were some there, brought as slaves and decedents thereof.

    Like Timbuktu, bordering North Africa and West Africa, was a major place of learning and had early universities, but the people were mainly Tuareg, Arabs and Negro mixes, nothing like the Africans from West Africa, generally Sudanese in appearance. But the learning there was mainly Muslim religious learning, nothing like the British Oxford or Cambridge learnedness. People need to be proud of what they are, proud of their real ancestry, not try and invent ancestry and hitch a ride on other similar races. So many black people feel inferior and want to invent ancestry which simply was nothing to do with their ancestry. Be proud of what you are, exactly what you are.

  17. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Green..you have no clue what you are talking about, speak with some real Kemetic scholars and stop embarrassing yourself, it is embarrassing that people in the west are still clueless, despite all the information at their fingertips, and still DISRESPECTING their Kemetic ancestors..


  18. What colour are blacks.
    There are about 40 shades in Nuancier by Pierre David, you can check the colour chart to be more specific than binary black or white. I think I am circa a 30.
    http://artistsbooksandmultiples.blogspot.com/2016/01/pierre-david-nuancier.html


  19. @ Nathan ‘Jolly’ Green June 17, 2021 4:49 PM

    What do you mean by the phrase “they were not negro”?

    Negro is derived from the Spanish word for ‘BLACK’ or the Latin ‘niger’?

    So if the Egyptians were not “negro” then what were they?

    ‘Blanco’ like the so-called enslaved Israelites aka Hebrews who claimed to have been enslaved in the same Egypt for 400 years without suffering the terminal plague of skin cancer?

    Otherwise, we would be inclined to agree with you regarding your claim that:
    “So many black people feel inferior and want to invent ancestry which simply was nothing to do with their ancestry. Be proud of what you are, exactly what you are”.

    That is ‘exactly’ why they must liberate their minds from mental slavery and stop seeing God- with an imaginary son and no daughter- through the lens of a European concocted cock-and-bull story.

    How can black people ever conceive of God in the image of an albino?

    The same God who gave them their ‘ebony’ skin and created them in an image which has ‘evolved’ to absorb the same Light.

    Maybe the same “negroes” are themselves the ‘original’ Israelites and followers of the founder of Monotheism the Egyptian pharaoh Akhenaten.

    What do you have to say to that, you old Jolly Green giant of ‘received’ brainwashing?


  20. Nathan Jolly Green is an illiterate ass.

    https://youtu.be/_1K1tALj3ng

  21. Nathan 'Jolly' Green Avatar
    Nathan ‘Jolly’ Green

    There are a number of black or coloured ethnicities. When talking about reparations in the Caribbean the ethnicity referred to is African Negreo not East Indian Asians. Two different ethnicities. Some East Indians would like to describe their ancestors as being slaves in the Caribbean, they were not. They were brought to the Caribbean under a contract of employment and right to return home or to become citizens at the end of their contracts. The contracts were called indentures, and the people were called indentured labourers. There is plenty on record that they were badly treated by the plantation owners and by the ex slaves. They were treated like slaves but were supposedly free men. The Indians thrived, they got on and made the best of things over the years. When the opportunity arose many migrated to the USA. Many became shop keepers and small business owners in the Caribbean. Always kept themselves to themselves and caused no trouble over the ensuing years. So it is understandable that they do not qualify for reparations.

    The black slaves came from African countries and had been sold by the chief or king of the society in which they lived. In many cases they were born slaves in Africa, there parents and grand parents had been slaves. Much of the time in Africa up to 60% of the population were enslaved. Perhaps reparations should start with Africans who sold your ancestors. Later when supplies of saleable slaves dwindled the warrior chiefs raided other tribes and captured people for enslavement and sale to Arabs and white Europeans.

    Although we would like to blame the white man we must first look inward at Africans who became rich beyond belief from selling slaves.

    In early days slavery existed in almost every country in the world. Slaves were every known colour and ethnicity.

    The Atlantic slave trade started due to the Catholic pope who himself had African slaves, divided the world in two, giving half to the Portuguese and half to the Spanish. Telling them in written documents that still exist “whoever you find in your respective parts of the world who are not Christians, you may enslave” you should start by asking the Catholic Church for reparations, followed by the Arab Nations, followed by European Nations.

    Everything I have written here is a matter of historical record.


  22. “Everything I have written here is a matter of historical record.”

    the only history you know is white shit

    whites said blacks were subhumans

    all other types of slavery was about having servants

    you give a persuasive argument why Queen Elisa should remain Head of State in Barbados and it’s people should be branded as property of Queen / RAC Royal African Company

  23. Nathan 'Jolly' Green Avatar
    Nathan ‘Jolly’ Green

    30 May in Nature Communications, includes data from 90 mummies buried between 1380 BC, during Egypt’s New Kingdom, and AD 425, in the Roman era. The findings show that the mummies’ closest kin were ancient farmers from a region that includes present-day Israel and Jordan.

    Modern day DNA shows that there is now a larger percentage of Central Africa negreo in the mix.

    But everywhere has changed with immigration and people worldwide over the last hundred years and is intensifying. Most countries have become melting pots of people.

    As for mental slavery, people that still have slave mentalities will always be in the mix. Intelligent people who can pull themselves from the mire of ignorance will be getting on with their lives and be successful, regardless of their ancestry.

    Applying the term mental slavery to black people is a gross insult to intelligent black folk, in fact it is probably an insult to all black folk. Remember the great Bob Marley was very much a white man with a touch of black. His mental slavery was drug induced.

    It is quite easy to see from the comments and replies here, that some of you are still steeped in ignorance and backwardness. Education is a great help in making people less silly, unfortunately there is such a thing as an educated idiot, and there are lots of them.


  24. “A white man with a touch of black”. I thought his father was white and his mother black. And his father was delinquent, having nothing to do with his upbringing. He was brought up black so he obviously identified as black, which was in keeping with the world’s colour rules anyway.

    Drug induced mental slavery? You mean he smoked marijuana? So do and did many prominent people who have done great things. As far as I can tell marijuana does not induce mental slavery. I don’t see that. I have never used it but that is not what I see.

    I don’t get up every morning with race on my mind. Indeed for most of my life I did simply got on with the business of living but I was aware of the role race plays in sealing the fate of, not the exceptional person, but the average person.

    You have here regurgitated all the white man’s talking points.

    Judging from your performance here, nothing you say can be trusted.

  25. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Another good reason to pull away from most of the idiot posts on BU..

    .Black people VISIT ancient Kemet everyday and SEE the truth, but along comes this one who probably never heard the word Kemet or Kush, or, or, or… before visiting BU but can tell us what the population was made up of in the ancient cities renamed Egypt because he read the writings of lying racist slave masters, swallowed it whole…and believe he can reboot the fraud and pass it on to future Black generations…..WRONG…scholars are way ahead of you…

    Even i have been exposed to KEMETIC teachings…and have some of it in my possession.

    everyone should find out the truth, it’s a personal journey…shitheads posting mindless nonsense on a blog don’t count..


  26. Works To Do (x2),

    Icientcy Mau And The Mau Mau Warriors

    Race baiting troll Nathan Jolly Green is flaming niggers on the Barbados Underground trying to provoke them with racist white boy crap chat

    Dilemma is he is not worth the effort of responding to

    I will ignore that cunt and let others deal with his fuckeries

    Mau Mau
    “Mzungu Aende Ulaya, Mwafrika Apate Uhuru”
    “Let the white man go back home, let the African regain independence”


  27. Unable to contribute.
    The main post is race bait.
    Drop the N word.


  28. Unable to contribute.
    The main post is race bait.
    Drop the N word regardlesz of font or context.


  29. Comedy 101
    Read the room and demographics if going for laughs

    At the end of his act, (Lenny) Bruce exasperates that the suppression of the word came from the power that people gave to the word. If you make it a taboo to use that word, it’ll give that word a powerful meaning. Well guess what…people who want to offend, they’ll use it to cause harm and offence to whoever feeds up to it. And as a society, we continue to go around in circles.
    “’til nigger didn’t mean anything anymore, then you could never make some six-year-old black kid cry because somebody called him a nigger at school.” — Lenny Bruce.


  30. Some people believe the solution is to tiptoe around difficult issues.


  31. Google translate

    Mzungu Aende Ulaya, Mwafrika Apate Uhuru

    SWAHILI – DETECTED

    White goes to Europe, African gets Independence


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    Helicopter hieroglyphs refer to an Egyptian hieroglyph carving from the Temple of Seti I at Abydos.
    Were these representations projections of the future or were they historical depictions of the past.
    Were the pyramids of Kemet built and designed by aliens or Africans.
    It is alleged that white peoples technologies came from greys lizards.

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  36. Catch a Fire

    I’ve got an official Bob Marley lighter to burn down vampire


  37. @ David King and/or Queen

    FYI

    I have got an unapproved comment in moderation… that’s fucking racism discrimination


  38. That is one word I tiptoe around and avoid. I do not use it or any of it’s variations.

    I cannot understand why non-blacks would try to defang/de-power this word by using it. I guess running around and calling every black person by it will render it impotent. I think not using it would be a better solution.

    I can assure you that I will not encourage one BU colleague to call me a jackass everyday.



  39. I cannot understand why non-blacks would try to defang/de-power this word

    Have you never seen a Black Indian or did you mean Afros

    People got offended when a Black man called Peter Tosh declared that he taught a White Man’s son called Bob Marley how to play music.

    Lee “Scratch” Perry invented Dub and gave the whole world Bob Marley and Reggae as a present.


  40. Never been called a jackass anywhere but here. Was a shock at first but now I don’t give a shit. It has always been obvious to those without an agenda that I am not what they say.

    As for the N word, racism is stupid and therefore any white man who called me that would be stupid in my eyes. After the initial shock, I would tell him do.

    The N word has no power but what we give it.


  41. And speaking about stupid racists, I understand Tucker Carlson did an interview with a man who claimed that white supremacy is the natural order of things because black people have lower IQs.

    Obviously not the white people who think he is a reputable news source when he himself argued in court that any reasonable person would know better.

    I wonder if his fan GP heard it.


  42. This back and forth threw my mi down back to Kamla Harris ethnicity which divisions on political fences trying to decided if she is Black or Indian



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    Sometimes I think BUHQ recycles usernames for new people on their troll teams to flame people into reacting with provocative click bait.
    Nathan Jolly Green reminds me of the John Knox-Jack Bowman double banking team for shit talking and the new TheO has the essence of a presence of a Conservative Hal Austin, or do people’s minds expand and grow with progressive thinking and then regress back with mental health issues. I remember John Knox and Hal implying they were on each others Christmas Card list. Perhaps John and Hal are founding members of the Underground net to trap people. You never see a man until you see his heart. His heart his is heart and his thought is thought.


  44. @ Donna June 18, 2021 11:58 AM #: “Never been called a jackass anywhere but here.”

    And, I’m sure you’ve never been referred to as ‘someone trying to be more Bajan than a Bajan’ and compared to ‘Muslim converts’ anywhere other than on BU as well.

    I read where a particular gentleman ‘called’ you a ‘cunt, bitch and used other pejorative terms to describe you.

    What about Cuhdear Bajan? I remember someone calling her the “village idiot.”

    Then, there is the racist scumbag calling women, ‘ho.’

    Not one word of condemnation.

    But, we’re upset and shouting “disrespect to women” because Lorenzo called you ‘pea brain?’

    ‘Don’t get me wrong,’ I’m not condoning Lorenzo’s behaviour. However, it seems as though we either prepared to conveniently forget or ignore and find all types of excuses when our ‘comrades’ similarly disrespect women, preferring instead to remind all and sundry about their so called ‘brilliance.’

    Then again, Donna, we have a vendetta, while you have to think about your son and I, my grand children.


  45. “which divisions on political fences trying to decided if she is Black or Indian”

    Trump cunts like Hal and Mariposa were hating on Kamala Harris and saying Biden was racist

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  46. angela coxJune 18, 2021 12:54 PM

    This back and forth threw my mind down back to Kamla Harris ethnicity with divisions on political fences trying to decided if she is Black or Indian

    Xxxx
    Was her ethnicity figured out
    Haven’t heard her make mentions of laws which would serve purpose of getting blacks out of an economic dreadlocks
    After all she is one uh we


  47. “Haven’t heard her make mentions of laws which would serve purpose of getting blacks out of an economic dreadlocks”

    As a black woman (or an extremely ugly News Reporter based in London in disguise spokesman / ) spokeswoman..

    .. could you explain why Black Woman straighten their hair to look like Indian Women instead of natty up their head growing their locks the way Jah Jah planned it


  48. .. could you explain why Black Woman straighten their hair to look like Indian Women instead of natty up their head growing their locks the way Jah Jah planned it

    Xxxxxoops my bad didn’t even notice Kamla Harris hair was nappy

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