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After an asphalt pavement has been laid for about a decade, it is normal for rectangular shaped cracks to appear on the surface.  These cracks can be economically sealed to prevent further damage to the pavement.

Sometimes, a road is not designed for the actual amount of traffic, and the pavement can crack from overuse or fatigue.  These cracks can be straight cracks in line with the road, or shaped like the skin-pattern of alligators.  These cracks can also be economically sealed to prevent further damage.

If these cracks are not sealed, then when the wheels of vehicles go over the cracks, they can force powder sized particles out of the underlying base through the cracks, which appear as powder on the surface.  This signals that a pothole is in gestation.  If the embryonic pothole is not aborted by sealing the cracks, the road will give birth to a pothole.

Sometimes, small areas of the base layer, on which the asphalt layer is installed, is not compacted sufficiently.  The asphalt layer may depress or settle in that small area and develop a pattern of alligator-skin type cracks.  This is different from the fatigue cracks, which also have an alligator-skin pattern, but no settlement.

Sealing these settlement cracks is not effective.  The cracked asphalt should be removed, the weak base material should be compacted, and the cracked asphalt replaced with new.  If the weak base is not compacted, the pothole will reappear – like magic.  Only it is not magic.  It is simply the consequences of a badly repaired pothole.

POLITICAL PATCHES.

There are several other reasons why an asphalt layer cracks and weakens.  But we seem disinterested in such matters.  We are a caring people.  We cherish our pregnant roads, and joyously celebrate each new birth.  When we nurse, or drive over the pothole, we cause it to grow from a juvenile, to an adult crater.

Why don’t we seal the cracks to abort the potholes?  Why don’t we properly repair potholes that result from base failure?  The answer appears to be political.

Before a general or by election, the government normally hurriedly patches potholes very badly.  These political patches are known to only bring temporary relief.  They do not last long, and only guarantee that the pothole will get worse after the election.

The problem is that this time, these political patches are still being done, even after the election is over.  I understand the need to keep unskilled persons employed during this time.  However, why not simply train them to seal cracks, and permanently repair potholes?  The answer to that fundamental question, is blowing in the wind.

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Highway and Transportation Engineer.  He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

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147 responses to “Grenville Phillips Speaks – The Birth of a Pothole”


  1. Barbadians are pothole fatigued.

  2. NorthernObserver Avatar

    Just be thankful you don’t have freeze-thaw to contend with, snow plows, nor chemicals scattered on the surface to improve driving conditions in times of severe weather.


  3. Solution, just go back to unpaved granular roads and buy a good grader and get a “skilled” operator.


  4. Simple doable solution … And why should this not become accepted policy again …?


  5. Simple solution the basics of which even a non-engineer would have figured out.

    “A stitch in time saves nine.”

    So….. why is this simple solution ignored?

    Perhaps it is so that certain people can be paid for nine stitches rather than one?????

    Hard to hide big kickbacks on small contracts.


  6. Why is the advice of a leading engineer on the island being ignored?

    Some say part of the problem is the dense road network for a small island.

    Sometimes a blessing can be a curse.


  7. Now there’s a face from the past.

    Hey BAF…same old, same old…..for me 8 years later, for some of you, much, much longer.

    some of us have long moved on to better and greater things, some just can’t and keep the black population right there with them..

  8. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    Why they cant fix this????

    Ask the people of SGN who voted for TONI MOORE, a Barbados Trade Unionist who cant even fix modern Trade Union problems. Instead of voting in sufficient numbers to return GRANVILLE PHILLIPS II as their duly appointed representative. See what they are missing out???? Not only them in SGN the but the whole of Barbados.

    It cant be fix because BLACK PEOPLE GOVT. must pay WHITE BAJAN companies over, and over to “fix” the same issues thus ensuring their dominance of the Barbadian economy and the issuing of no bid contracts.

    See what I said, the better candidate does not always win.

    The people will say just as they said in SGN, GIVE US BARRABAS.(instead)


  9. David
    One reason is that that engineer is also a partisan politico.

    Given the culture of politics there is no telling where intersectionality begins and ends.


  10. @Pacha

    The government has SMEs in the public service who should be able to rationally assess. Politics or no.


  11. David
    We hope that PLT now sees that the pothole in Brexit is not only being caused by the britush but by the EU as well.

    The EU has been demanding that the british give up sovereignty over its territorial waters (fishing) and that some future EU laws must also be adopted by the british, amongst other things of course. These are proving untenable.

    The truth has always been that on both sides a deal may prove too difficult leaving us with a no-deal brexit by year’s end. PLT was contending, wrongly, that it was only the british making a deal difficult.

    This political pothole miniturizes anything in Little England.


  12. @Pacha

    Many including the blogmaster are following with a keen interest.


  13. So, I provided effective and economical solutions for 18 years, but the past PM noted that you had to be in the political trenches to be heard.

    So, I got into the political trench, and offered the same solutions while running in two elections over 5 years, and they still would not listen to simple effective advice.

    I am now out of elective politics (both formally and informally), and offering the same advice, and they still will not listen. The only thing that has remained the same – are the same bad actors.


  14. They are listening, but clearly do not agree. That is called democracy. My doctor may give me advice, but I do not have to accept it.


  15. How do you know they are listening or for that matter disagree?

    Evidence please!


  16. @ nextparty246December 9, 2020 5:32 PM

    What an awakening that must have been!

    So you have now reached that point of enlightenment to understand that the modern-day incestuously-laden Bajan politics is not directly about improving the lives of the ‘ordinary’ people or the basic infrastructure of the country but about mainly massaging the egos of arrogant politicians and fulfilling the lifelong dreams of narcissists?

    Isn’t that what William Skinner has been arguing all along when he dubs the nepotistic BLP and the DLP as the duopoly of ‘both’ friends and family?

    You, GP2, are a Bajan political misfit aka outlier with your head in Cloud-9.

    Why not join that dying labour party (DLP) to turn around its recent defeats and make the difference which is sadly lacking in leadership in terms of both moral commitment and technical acumen?

    You might be surprised how your political stakes might just rise to the top of the heap.

  17. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    Gordon Seale is claiming that the Hotels “….. are in need of urgent help”. These are the Hotels that made many BLACK BARBADIANS unemployed and refuses to pay them their monies. The former workers are now DESPERATE. But the Hotels don’t care about them. The Hotels have been in Business for donkey years making MILLIONS OF DOLLARS but the Govt. is to bail them . They are not using their money. No way. The Govt. has promised them $300 million dollars of free money. The Govt. has also said that it would also take $300 million dollars to pay workers.

    Let us see who the Govt. considers the most, the Hotels or the poor Workers who don’t know where the next cent is coming form.

  18. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    Make no mistake about it, if the Hotels Management is given this money , it is going straight into their pockets.

  19. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    Has Mrs. Ram been paid for her property on Bay Street as Yet????

    This is a real tragedy. I recall when the Barbados Labour Party and their supporters went all over Barbados condemning the Hyatt project. They even went into the political graveyard and resurrect the Billy who was scathing in her comments of the Hyatt Hotel, but Mrs. Ram was one of the only people in favour of the Hyatt Hotel. Look what occurred to her property.

    The Barbados Labour Party took away her property, demolish it, I don’t know what happen to her stock, the Barbados Labour Party Govt. probably dump it in the Land fill. I don’t know.


  20. Was it not the dlp which brought ms ram, the racist hindu nationalist, to barbados in the first place?


  21. Miss Ram takes the prize as the greatest oppressor and exploiter of the Black working class Barbadian for more than 40 years. Her demise gives the blogmaster the greatest of pleasure.


  22. David
    Is she dead?


  23. @Pacha

    No

  24. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    Mrs. Ram provided much need employment for Barbadian citizens. They are people who have been working for her for more than 20 years. If she was what the blog master makes her out to be , those people would have left long time ago.

    She contributed to the Financial upliftment of many people. Many mouths were fed because of her I am wondering how many people the Blog master have employed during his life time giving a chance at bettering themselves.

    One person, two persons half a person, how many BLACK HAS HE HELPED???

    Taking peoples away a person’s property and not paying them for it sets an extremely bad and dangerous precedent in any Country. We will live to regret this.

    This shows dictatorial powers.

  25. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    Wrong can never be right, Black can never be White, up can never be down, East can never West.

    No matter however the Blog master tries to paint her, WRONG CAN NEVER BE RIGHT CAN NEVER be right.

    When they do to him the same thing TO HIM I am awaiting his response. When any person is unfaired by any Got. there is noting stopping them from doing the same to other Citizens .

    PRICIPALS, PRINCIPALS, that what you Barbados Labour Party yardfowls lack. The Govt. is elected to preserve our rights not to take them away. They to are elected to preserve our rights. Not give them away to AMERICANS.

    THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT THE FIRST TIME who is to say THEY WIL;L DO IT AGAIN to some unsuspecting Citizen!!!!!!!

  26. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    should be “”not”” on line 8

  27. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    Not a peep from David Comissiong form the vantage point of his high paying Govt. pick.

  28. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    FIRST THEY CAME
    By Martin Niemöller
    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist
    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist
    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me.


  29. @ Carson
    The fundamental issue is not how popular Ms Ram is, or whether she was rude to ordinary Barbadians or not; the real issue is the abuse of state power.
    How the state could compulsorily purchase private property, a tool for public good, only to sell it to a private developer is not explained, as is the custom in Barbados. By the way, before some people crawl out of the wood work, this is not a private/public project. It is a private development.
    Then the arrogance of the state is compounded by the delay in payment. That is not just wrong, but dishonest. Gangsterism.


  30. DavidDecember 9, 2020 8:50 PM

    Miss Ram takes the prize as the greatest oppressor and exploiter of the Black working class Barbadian for more than 40 years. Her demise gives the blogmaster the greatest of pleasure.

    xxxxxxxcccccccccc

    Some truth maybe inserted

    But David another Truth be told never seen her employees standing outside her business with placards demanding their severance pay or asking for their wages
    Question but why would a govt take her property and give the land free of cost to a multimillion entity like Hyatt and not pay her a fair price for it ?
    Btw have u read that the hoteliers like Seale gone begging govt for hand outs
    In meanwhile bridgetown business crumbles to the ground
    Why dont u speak about those issue
    Black businesses suffering while the lilly white hotel industry who have been the most favoured capitalist beggars and receivers from govt hand outs crying about wanting more


  31. @ Mariposa

    There is a difference between the tourism sector, and its part in the economy (macro), a genuine concern of government; and the survival of individual hotels, which are private businesses (micro), which has nothing to do with government, apart from their tax obligations. Often we get the two confused.


  32. Dr Grenville Phillips is a corporate and financial consultant and licensed trustee in insolvency and bankruptcy.

    Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Highway and Transportation Engineer

    Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer

    Are we dealing with Senior or Junior, doctor or just an ordinary Joe Bloggs?

  33. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    Hal

    You hit the nail right on the head. You are one of the smartest people on this Blog.

  34. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    Mariposa

    I am watching this scenario very carefully. I will have something to say.

    Who get paid first?????
    The RICH HOTELIERS and able to pay themselves OR THE POOR WORKERS????


  35. Hal Barbados have a confused govt
    Mia does not know head from tail
    Her latest round of advice telling workers govt would take upon its shoulders repaying the hotels severance pay is enough to say that Mia does not understand the role which govt should undertake when private sector does not play fair by the rules


  36. Research will show several instances where government compulsory acquired land to sell, hold to support both public and private development, India being one such country. The issue here is not imminent domain, it is what government wants to support its policies and does the law support it.

  37. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    When was this this ever done in Barbados????

    I don’t want to hear about India, it is no help to me???? I live in Barbados where these things don’t happen. So I am not encouraging it. But to Barbados Labour Party yardfowls , its no problem. Until it happens to them.


  38. @ Carson

    Would you go to India for a example of anything to do with legal/administrative principles?

  39. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    “”……the abuse of power…..”

    The watch words.

  40. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    India is one of the worst places on Earth, a very poor example he used. But then again he is a Barbados Labour Party supporter, so anything they do is alright by him.

    I would not be caught dead in India. They don’t even like BLACK PEOPLE.


  41. Referring to a next country is how Barbadians make their argument.

    Unfortunately, they are often comparing bad with bad.

    Ignore or you would come to think of a Frankenstein monster stitched together with the worst of elsewhere.


  42. Do you guys understand simple logic? A government can do what it wants if the law supports it. Can the government change the laws? Yes. Citing India is to show there is precedent. Individuals and companies model best practice, what is wrong with such an approach? By the way, India is labelled one of the world’s democracies, like the USA. Perhaps not the USA. Take that back!

    Steuspe.


  43. To repeat, Miss Ram had her day in court questioning the fair market offer by government and she was sent away. Ask her lawyer Ezra Alleyne for details.

  44. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    To repeat the Govt. here in Barbados is attempting to do as it like with Citizen rights. All bad.

    I don’t care what anybody says otherwise.


  45. Do you guys understand simple logic? A government can do what it wants if the law supports it. Can the government change the laws? Yes. Citing India is to show there is precedent….(Quote)

    What appalling, spectacular ignorance. BU logic. How can anyone argue against such nonsense when there is a real chance the person will not understand?

  46. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    India: a Nation that treats BLACK PEOPLE like something they scrapped off their shoe.


  47. The hypocrisy of David mouthings are evident
    Just ignore
    All knows that govt have preference acquisition of land to the betterment of society which means that all of society must benefit
    No one can truly argue that land space given to Hyatt can be of benefit to the whole of barbados
    No one


  48. @Mariposa

    You have understood and stated in a brief sentence which many on BU, including some local lawyers, cannot understand. They go Googling policy documents they do not understand, talk nonsense about the doctrine of precedence, when all they have to say is what you have said.
    Brilliant. Ignore@David. He won’t understand in a million years.


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