If the late great Gladston Holder were alive he would take the opportunity to remind us that it does not matter who is elected to the White House, it the wealthiest families in the USA where the power is located- the Vanderbilts, Rockefellers et al. That said many will agree party colours aside, Trump’s legacy will be remembered as being one of the most bigoted and divisive.
Let it be no secret this blogmaster cannot wait to see the back of the man. He has disgraced the office of president of the USA and by extension the human race.
Discuss for 2 marks.
3,917 responses to “2020 US Presidential Election”
David, re “It is not clear that, once out of day-to-day politics, Donald Trump will be able to maintain his grip on Republican lawmakers”.
That’s a excellent english play on words… 😂…. of course it’s NOT clear what his grip will be because we dont know if he will be or for what he may be indicted. That will have an impact on his influence.
But it’s very clear that his influence will be significant … how can any one man with his level of cultish 70 million+ vote populism NOT continue to sway opinions significantly!!
He has stirred up the bottom of the lake of political life and there is little chance that all that ‘stuff’s now flowing down river will ever resettle to the lake bottom again …. particularly with his continued agitation and muck raking.
We dismiss this man at our great peril.
His almost comprehensive destruction of normative behaviours and this latest take down of the sanctity of accepting defeat in the face of what HE CALLED a landslide victory (for similar electoral college results) just 4 years ago is clear evidence of his dangerous bully pulpit!
Let’s hope he gets convicted legitimately for the treason he committed.
It will be very difficult to make a comeback if he pardons himself, not sure about the legality of a self- pardon but as Bill Maher often states “if it is not written down Trump will try it” and his last act will be to pardon himself, but according to the US Supreme Court “a pardon carries an imputation of guilt and that acceptance carries a confession of guilt”.
All that said the lemmings and cultists don’t have any qualms about Trump’s misdeeds.
MR HEE HAW
RE David, re “It is not clear that, once out of day-to-day politics, Donald Trump will be able to maintain his grip on Republican lawmakers”. That’s a excellent english play on words…
HOW IS THE ABOVE A PUN?
WHERE DID YOU LEARN ENGLISH
But it’s very clear that his influence will be significant …INDEED
how can any one man with his level of cultish 70 million+ vote populism NOT continue to sway opinions significantly!!
IS YOUR REASON FOR THE PIFFLE ABOVE A RESULT OF THE FACT THAT THE HOPE AND CHANGE BLACK MAN CULT LEADER, HAS LOST HIS LEGACY, AND NOE SEEKS TO REWRITE HISTORY IN A 700 PAGE TOME?
He has stirred up the bottom of the lake of political life and there is little chance that all that ‘stuff’s now flowing down river will ever resettle to the lake bottom again …. particularly with his continued agitation and muck raking.
HOW IS IT THAT THE CONTINUED AGITATION AND MUCH RAKING OF THE HOPE AND CHANGE BLACK MAN CULT LEADER, HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO THE SAME?
DID NOT THAT MORON — THE HOPE AND CHANGE BLACK MAN CULT LEADER, Stir up the bottom of the lake of political life and LEFT VERY LARGE VOLUMES OF FECULENT MATERIAL flowing down river?
HOEVER, TRUMP DID NOT LET IT SETTLE to the lake bottom again DID HE?
INSTEAD HE STIRRED IT UP AND EXPOSED IT FOR ALL TO SEE DESPITE CONTINUED RESISTANCE?…
His almost comprehensive destruction of normative behaviours
WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT?. NOT MURDERING YOUR OPONENTS LIKE THE DEMS DO?
RE latest take down of the sanctity of accepting defeat in the face of what HE CALLED a landslide victory (for similar electoral college results) just 4 years ago is clear evidence of his dangerous bully pulpit!
WHAT DOES THIS WORD SALAD MEAN?
Let’s hope he gets convicted legitimately for the treason he committed. HAS BIDEN BAMA AND THE OTHERS BEEN TRIED FOR TREASON?
WHAT HAS HE DONE THAT IS TREASON
WHY DONT YOU GET A JOB IN ONE OF THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA PLACES
OR GET A JOB SPINNING IN ONE OF THE PRTOFESSIONAL CRICKET LEAGUES
OF WHAT TYPE OF CELLS IS YOUR MUCAL MUCOSA MADE? RECTAL MUCOSA IT SEEMS
SHOULD BE BUCCL MUCOSA
THE LAST SENTENCE MEANS AS WE SAY IN BARBADOS YOU TALKING SSSSSSSSSSSSSS….E
NO PUN INTENDED
GP
Why don’t you stop riding Trump’s dick?
Do you like loser dick?
The man LOST, get over it you LOSER.
Biden will be President on January 20th at 12 noon.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
de pedantic DribblerNovember 28, 2020 3:13 PM
David, re “It is not clear that, once out of day-to-day politics, Donald Trump will be able to maintain his grip on Republican lawmakers”.
That’s a excellent english play on words… 😂…. of course it’s NOT clear what his grip will be because we dont know if he will be or for what he may be indicted.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
… and of course we don’t know when he will be out of day to day politics … or even if!!
Junior, Junior, Junior
Hasn’t it dawned on you yet?
If it is that he has so much sway on the Republican Legislatures then the 20 electoral votes from Pennsylvania are his!!
Let’s see, what other State Legislatures are Republican?
We know Rudy paying some states a visit next week!!!
Which ones are they?
Do they also have Republican Legislatures?
We know that the President has already had a routine meeting with Michigan Lawmakers 8 days ago.
Michigan has 16 electoral votes up for grabs and the Michigan Legislature will choose as per the constitution.
So Junior, by your logic, Joe Biden looking shaky.
Rudy going to Arizona and other states next week, probably Nevada and Georgia.
Dis ting may soon be done.
‘Til it over and done wid and de fat lady sing, no one knows if the sitting President will leave the White House on 20th January 2020 or be sworn in once again.
The only country that seems to admit the use of Dominion Voting Systems is Canada.
A question to Hants, Northern Observer and perhaps Geasshopper.
Do you all realise you may have a mock Government up your side?
Grasshopper, not Gasshopper
@Sargeant
He should not forget his children and son and law1
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/23/can-trump-actually-stage-a-coup-and-stay-in-office-for-a-second-term
Last paragraph
“Regardless of however long a dispute is, the constitution does set one final deadline. Even if counting is ongoing, the president and vice-president’s terms both end at noon on 20 January. At that point if there isn’t a final result in the race, the speaker of the House – probably Nancy Pelosi – would become the acting president.
Think I made the Trimpsters soil their pants.
Everybody Needs A Proper Education
Rub A Dub
thia is for JOHN & CRITICAL AND MONEY BRAIN
Johns Hopkins Study Saying COVID-19 Has ‘Relatively No Effect on Deaths’ in U.S. Deleted After Publication
By Conservatives Journal02565
Conventional wisdom is that COVID-19 has caused thousands of deaths in the United States and nearly 1.5 million worldwide. This perception has been directly challenged by a study published by Johns Hopkins University on Sunday, November 22.
Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics master’s degree program at Johns Hopkins University, critically analyzed the impact that COVID-19 had on U.S. deaths. According to her, the impact of COVID-19 on deaths in the United States can be fully understood by comparing it to the number of total deaths in the country.
According to study, “in contrast to most people’s assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.”
That’s what it says. And, it should come as no surprise that not long after the study was published it was deleted within days.
Luckily, a back-up copy remains on The Wayback Machine, and we can still read the study.
So, how exactly did the study conclude that COVID-19 has had “relatively no effect on deaths”? Here’s how the study made this determination:
After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared.
Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.
According to Briand, “The reason we have a higher number of reported COVID-19 deaths among older individuals than younger individuals is simply because every day in the U.S. older individuals die in higher numbers than younger individuals.”
Briand’s analysis found that the range of deaths amongst the older population has remained within the range of past years.
So, if COVID-19 has actually had no significant impact on U.S. deaths, why does it not appear that way?
To answer that question, Briand shifted her focus to the deaths per causes ranging from 2014 to 2020. There is a sudden increase in deaths in 2020 due to COVID-19. This is no surprise because COVID-19 emerged in the U.S. in early 2020, and thus COVID-19-related deaths increased drastically afterward.
Analysis of deaths per cause in 2018 revealed that the pattern of seasonal increase in the total number of deaths is a result of the rise in deaths by all causes, with the top three being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia.
“This is true every year,” explained Briand. “Every year in the U.S. when we observe the seasonal ups and downs, we have an increase of deaths due to all causes.”
Here’s where things get interesting.
When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.
The study found that “This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years.” In fact, “the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19.”
Briand concludes that the COVID-19 death toll in the United States is misleading and that deaths from other diseases are being categorized as COVID-19 deaths.
There have reports of inflated COVID-19 deaths numbers for months. Patients who never tested positive for the disease had COVID-19 as their cause of death on their death certificates. In May, Jared Polis, the Democrat governor of Colorado, disputed official coronavirus death counts, saying even those of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) were inflated from including people who tested positive for the coronavirus but died of other causes. In July, a fatal motorcycle accident victim was listed as a COVID-19 death.
On Thursday, Johns Hopkins University explained that they deleted the article on the study because it “was being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies about the impact of the pandemic.”
They did not, however, challenge the accuracy of the data or its conclusions. In other words, the article was deleted because it didn’t fit the proper narrative.
Gasshopper, Gasshopper, Gasshopper
Joe Biden has not won a single electoral vote until a state legislature awards their electoral voters to him.
No coup is necessary to take something from him which he does not have.
It may appear as though he has 306 electoral voters to those who count their chickens before they hatch.
If the Pennsylvania Legislature decides to award its electoral voters to Trump, those who believe Biden has 306 electoral voters will watch in awe as Biden’s imaginary tally slips to 286 and 20 of his imaginary eggs addle.
Trump does not have to do anything but show the various State Legislatures voter fraud in their states.
They will do what needs to be done on behalf of the people in their state.
No coup necessary, just follow the rules like adults.
Biden gets taken out of the sandbox in the particular state.
As more imaginary eggs addle for Joe Biden, Trump’s real electoral voters approach the magic 270.
We already know the Michigan folks with 16 electoral votes to award have already met with Trump and are clear that they will follow the constitution.
Rudy’s going to Michigan I believe this week.
Trump can in addition present his evidence in court and have the courts order the State Legislatures to do what is required.
No court is going to usurp the power of the State Legislature to select the electors with six originalist Justices in a nine member Justice Supreme Court.
State courts can mess Trump about all they want but if the constitution is being breached the Supreme Court will correct the wrong.
Remember, judges are appointed, not elected.
The last thing they should want to do is to determine the outcome of an election.
That responsibility falls to the State Legislatures each of which is elected.
It so happens they are republican in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia and Arizona … 68 electoral voters in all.
All of these State Legislatures are thus, like Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani, on the President’s Team!!
If they can be shown election fraud in their state perpetrated by the Executive Branch, they will do the adult thing even if it means awarding electoral voters for Candidate, Donald Trump.
If they can’t, they will again do the adult thing and award their state’s electoral voters to Candidate Biden as is the custom.
You there yet Junior?
Trump is proof that a President of the United States has far too much power that can be abused and that USA is also far too powerful paranoid and a danger to other nations.
But if I was the PotUS with the mostest I would set the Prisoners free so they could love up with their loved ones. My Daddy was a Bankrobber. He never hurt nobody. He just liked to live that way. He loved to steal your money.
Rockers Galore…UK Tour
Homeguard, Free Up The Prisoners
John is a prime example of the irrational thinking exhibited by cultists and lemmings; he thinks that because states have republican majorities, that automatically all the republican legislators will vote lockstep to send electors to vote for Trump or confirm his as president if legal challenges somehow short circuit the confirmation of the president elect. He believes that representatives in Michigan will ignore an 154,000 majority and those in Pennsylvania will ignore the will of the electorate that provided an 80,000 vote cushion.
He overlooks those republican officials e.g. Sec. of state in Georgia; the Michigan statehouse leaders who despite a WH invitation and visit said they didn’t see anything to overturn the vote or how about the speaker in the Arizona statehouse who said that all went well in his state.
Lemmings and cultists read the same articles, by the same authors, visit the same websites, support the same candidates; are on the same side of every issue; support the same conspiracy theories and come away with the same opinions; prime examples of group think.
If wunnah doubt me ignore de politics check out their opinions on e.g. COVID19; they are all singing from the same song sheet.
Elections have been tossed in Pennsylvania in the past by judges!!
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1994-02-20-1994051024-story.html
‘Tainted’ Pa. Senate election is voided
New York Times News Service
THE BALTIMORE SUN
PHILADELPHIA — Saying Philadelphia’s election system had collapsed under “a massive scheme” by a Democratic candidate to steal a state Senate election in November, a federal judge took the rare step of invalidating the election and ordered the seat filled by the Republican candidate.
In making such a sweeping move, Judge Clarence C. Newcomer of U.S. District Court in Philadelphia did for the Republicans what the election had not: enabled them to regain control of the state Senate, which they lost two years ago.
@Rabbit
I love how Team Rabbit is claiming about millions and hundred of thousands of fraudulent votes and then submitting this as proof…
***1) Source: OANN: Wis. Woman Charged With Election Fraud, Allegedly Submits Dead Partner’s Ballot
Would be funny if it turns out that this one-uni–un-single woman who is proof that millions of votes were fraudulent is located in SGN,,,, (Murdah)
****2) “It may appear as though he has 306 electoral voters to those who count their chickens before they hatch.
If the Pennsylvania Legislature decides to award its electoral voters to Trump, those who believe Biden has 306 electoral voters will watch in awe as Biden’s imaginary tally slips to 286 and 20 of his imaginary eggs addle.”
Let us assume what you say is true, Pssst … the magic number is still 270 not 286,
**3) Rudy’s going to Michigan I believe this week.”
https://news.yahoo.com/rudy-giuliani-admits-exaggerating-claims-065554193.html
Psssst …. When you read it, in case you do not know Detroit is in Michigan. He has already destroyed his credibility there.
****4)
“As more imaginary eggs addle for Joe Biden, Trump’s real electoral voters approach the magic 270.”
This one is for free.. Approaching is not enough… they must reach/exceed 270.
****5) “it so happens they are republican in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia and Arizona … 68 electoral voters in all.”
50-0, 26-24, court=> state court => supreme court, then court opinion vs public opinion and now Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia and Arizona”.
Help, help, help me, so many different scenarios that my head is spinning.
millions of votes, hundred of thousands and then a single voter… Yawn
@GP
Don’t mind that study, they will say this proves the lockdowns were successful since deaths were suppressed.
There was another study that looked at the all cause mortality rates and he just found a bump slightly above a bad flu year. All COVID seems to have mostly done is taken out mostly older people already in the departure lounge a few months earlier.
Only history will tell but they will blame it on the vaccine and lockdown for the reduced deaths this flu season and next year.
“Johns Hopkins Study Saying COVID-19 Has ‘Relatively No Effect on Deaths’ in U.S.”
You are so dense and naive to believe every bit of propaganda and disinformation from biased far right news.
It’s no wonder you were never a successful contender for a top position in medicine as you never had the popularity or brilliance required and was just a mediocre or below average journeyman or gatekeeper.
The Reel To Reel
All For One, One For All
@Critical Analyzer November 28, 2020 9:40 AM “I…3 letter agencies are truly capable of and they would not want that out in the open if they can avoid it.”
We have spent a lifetime watching spy movies, so we know what you call 3 letter agencies are capable of…like in the movies we know that they are capable of murder and other mayhem. Surprise, surpriise!!!!! We KNOW that they are not trained to be nice, gentle baby sitters. If I a simpleton knows that, why do you think that the rest of the world would be surprised???
Lol!
When Rudy appeared before the Legislature in Pennsylvania he appeared in two capacities, as a lawyer and as a former politician.
His audience was politicians, not judges.
He doesn’t have to work nearly as hard as he does before Judges who have never faced the electorate and never seen up close the effect of voter fraud.
He and the members of the Legislatures are kindred spirits.
There isn’t much any of them have not seen.
Most Judges will react in disbelief but not politicians.
That’s the court where he will be deadly.
Once he gets the legislatures moving, the courts will follow!!
But they don’t have to.
GP, I dont understand why anyone believes the lies on Wuhan Virus. The 2019-2020 Flu season was expected to be wicked but deaths from flu were supposedly low by the end of April having started out high in November – December. Wuhan virus was certainly used for political purposes in a multiplicity of ways with the objective of removing Trump. The Dems would conduct absolutely anything to achieve power.
EXACTLY MB
NEXT THING IS THE PHARM COMPANIES SUGGESTING AN EXPENSIVE TWO DOSE VACCINE WITH SOME NAUGHTY SIDE EFFECTS FROM REPORTS
DR FALSY THE DEM ASSOCIATE LIED TO TRUMP INITIALLY, AND SINCE THEN HE HAS BEEN BRIMBLING CONSISTENTLY
@John at 10:25? AM “It would be interesting to know whether those voting systems are the basis for Ms. Mockley and the 30 zeroes right here in Barbados. What of Grenada, and Dominica and who knows what other of our neighbours?
Will the GOB, the GOG, the GOD etc. say whether those systems were used here and give their citizens an explanation?”
Why don’t you top lying?
You know very well that we use paper ballots which are counted by hand by officials of the Electoral and Boundaries Commission in the presence of representation of all parties.
It is bad enough that you are propagating lies on the American people, but you have to lie on the Bajan people too? Te same Bajans whose labour has nurtured you?
So Simple
You accept Dominion Voting Systems should have no place here given their performance in America!!
@Rabbit
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/beyond-embarrassment-legal-experts-say-trump-giuliani-s-floundering-efforts-n1248667
Gasshopper
It’s the State Legislatures that count, courts are a bonus!!
Simple
It’s counting and tabulation where the derring do occurs.
All the mail in ballots are paper too!!
Since Trump lost the election he has abandoned the job, the only job related activity he has participated in was to pardon the turkey oops i almost said Mike Flynn
Here Simple is an example of paper ballots in Pennsylvania raised by Rudy!!
Some of the ballots were returned the day before they were mailed!!!
… all paper!!
As if there could be any doubt of voter fraud here is the man who would be president elect hisself explaining how it was done.
@Cuhdear Bajan November 28, 2020 8:00 PM
I am not talking about murder, mayhem, corruption or crimes. I am talking about information i.e. your personal private information you think is not out there. Where you have been, who you talk to, what you talk about. Things that you think are private.
Information is the most important commodity. Placing certain information into the public domain lets other people you are trying to monitor know you capabilities at gathering similar types of information and they will change their ways to better protect their privacy making it harder for them to gather future information.
Trump has the information he needs to win but he is going to let the process play out and watch the Democrats squirm and hang themselves. This is him getting payback for the impeachment over fake Russia interference dossiers and all the nonsense they did when the anointed one Hillary got beaten.
By Biden’s own admission, he and the Democrats built the most extensive voter fraud network ever.
The president’s team, lets call them the “Good Guys” are in the process of picking it to pieces.
Once they tell other politicians in the various State Legislatures a few facts they will get it and long before any Judge could figure it out.
Politicians understand these things instinctively!!
@John November 28, 2020 8:44 PM “So Simple. You accept Dominion Voting Systems should have no place here given their performance in America!!”
Please don’t even try to put words in my mouth.
I simple, but not that simple.
So you don’t know if Dominion Voting Systems counts the paper ballots in Barbados like it counts them in America?
… but you would like it if it did.
This is why the turd has not conceded. Always about money.
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Wuhloss
Hans Christian Anderson wrote this fable
It is called ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes”
From the cultists and lemmings “What wonderful clothes you have King”; “they are made of the finest livery”
The facts were indisputable: President Trump had lost.
But Trump refused to see it that way. Sequestered in the White House and brooding out of public view after his election defeat, rageful and at times delirious in a torrent of private conversations, Trump was, in the telling of one close adviser, like “Mad King George, muttering, ‘I won. I won. I won.’ ”
However cleareyed Trump’s aides may have been about his loss to President-elect Joe Biden, many of them nonetheless indulged their boss and encouraged him to keep fighting with legal appeals. They were “happy to scratch his itch,” this adviser said. “If he thinks he won, it’s like, ‘Shh . . . we won’t tell him
Trump’s allegations and the hostility of his rhetoric — and his singular power to persuade and galvanize his followers — generated extraordinary pressure on state and local election officials to embrace his fraud allegations and take steps to block certification of the results. When some of them refused, they accepted security details for protection from the threats they were receiving.
In the run-up to the election, Trump was aware of the fact — or likelihood, according to polls — that he could lose. He commented a number of times to aides, “Oh, wouldn’t it be embarrassing to lose to this guy?”
But in the final stretch of the campaign, nearly everyone — including the president — believed he was going to win. And early on election night, Trump and his team thought they were witnessing a repeat of 2016, when he defied polls and expectations to build an insurmountable lead in the electoral college.
Then Fox News called Arizona for Biden.
“He was yelling at everyone,” a senior administration official recalled of Trump’s reaction. “He was like, ‘What the hell? We were supposed to be winning Arizona. What’s going on?’ He told Jared to call [News Corp. Executive Chairman Rupert] Murdoch.”
Efforts by Kushner and others on the Trump team to persuade Fox to take back its Arizona call failed.
Trump and his advisers were furious, in part because calling Arizona for Biden undermined Trump’s scattershot plan to declare victory on election night if it looked as though he had sizable leads in enough states.
With Biden now just one state away from clinching a majority 270 votes in the electoral college and the media narrative turned sharply against him, Trump decided to claim fraud. And his team set out to try to prove it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-overturn/2020/11/28/34f45226-2f47-11eb-96c2-aac3f162215d_story.html
Another lawsuit tossed and according to the Court: The Republicans couldn’t reconfigure their complaints and try again
The republicans response “But we love losing”
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/28/politics/pennsylvania-state-supreme-court-election-case/index.html
https://theconversation.com/could-a-few-state-legislatures-choose-the-next-president-146950
D-9 and counting.
Looks like it comes down to the court now,
https://www.pennlive.com/elections/2020/11/last-gasp-effort-by-pa-house-republicans-to-involve-state-legislature-in-recall-of-presidential-election-results-fizzle.html
#nutjob
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Oh shite! The Energizer Bunnies are still blithely digging their tunnel to China. My chinese cabbage is spouting nicely. Xi will have his white supremacist rabbits and I will have my BDLP yardfowl on January 20th.
Chop suey and stir fry.
@Rabbit
What happens after the courts?
Is that the end of this tunnel?
Will you concede?