How Donald Trump is Stealing the 2020 Presidential Elections

Submitted by Pachamama

We write as the New York Times has finally found damning evidence that Donald Trump is not the billionaire, successful businessman, he has always presented himself to be – some of us were long aware of this. He may be nearer to being a tax cheat. On the other side of the electoral ledger, Trump has fortuitously found Amy Barrett to buttress his position when (not if) the elections are thrown into the Supreme Court.

Currently, a range of polls have Joe Biden leading almost everywhere. Nationally, he leads Trump by between eight (8) and ten (10) points. In the six (6) to eight (8) battleground states, Biden has leads greater than the margins of error in about five (5) to six (6) of them. Trump leads in one (1) or two (2) and there are a few where there are statistical ties. There is some significant enlargement of the electoral map (battleground states) as states like Texas and Georgia beckon as if ‘fool’s gold’ for Democrats. These are where every election is won or lost.

Presidential elections in America, in recent times – yes, but throughout their history, have been bedevilled by all manner of fraud – on all sides, at different times, but particularly by Republicans, currently, so as to compensate for being the less populace of the two major parties, which it has become. Exit polling, the gold standard for elections, as the highly reliable measure for predicting outcomes and detecting fraud have often failed to avoid the opposite results within the American context. Unlike pre-election polling, no guesswork is required for exit polling which is globally deployed.

In the 2000 presidential elections George Bush, number two (2), was able to defeat Al Gore when the Supreme Court, which Trump has now stacked with loyalists, intervened and threw the elections to Bush. Of course, the Florida Republican Secretary of State, Katherine Harris, had already prepared the ground by removing tens of thousands of Afrikan-American voters from the rolls in strategic areas – they could not vote. If you were Black, with a criminal record, and your name was Brown all the Browns in your immediate areas were therewith removed from the voter rolls. This remains a central Republican voter suppression tactic.

This preparation of the battleground, as if for war, has been, all this time, going on behind the scenes by well-paid soldiers who know that their boss, Trump, never wants to be seen as a ‘loser’. Trump as the out-and-out fraudster and well aware of all the historic electoral shenanigans will be hard to be persuaded by what he sees as meaningless traditions. It should not be doubted that new systems of election rigging are being hatched as an ongoing project.

Trump should be believed when he contends that the only way he could lose is if the elections were unfair. We must see his attempts to manipulate the postal system; his inordinate control over Republican governors, like Ron DeSantis in Florida, a battleground state; and in the absence of a possible clear defeat, the reliability of a Supreme Court to appoint him, an easy ask. We concede though, that the court may not be as dependable as he would like it to be.

The 2004 elections were stolen based on electronic manipulation by George Bush or people acting on his behalf – essentially Karl Rove, who Bush called the ‘architect’. Rove and his fellow architects, again in Florida, were able to program voter machines so that votes for John Kerry were recognized, by the machines, as votes for Bush.

In Ohio, Ken Blackwell, a Black republican and former mayor of Cincinnati, oversaw the same kinds of built-in irregularities in certain counties as he certified numbers of electors inconsistent with actual registered voters. Bush’s approval ratings days before the election was 48%, with political momentum going against him. Normally when an incumbent president is below 50% he/she tends to lose. But Bush ‘won’ 51-48% in Ohio as the voting machines supplied by republican outfits included Diebold Election Systems, Inc. (DESI), Election Systems & Software (ESS) and Sequoia Voting Systems did the job intended. These are the companies which conspired with Karl Rove to steal two elections in a row and were the suppliers of 80% of all voting machines within the USA.

Notwithstanding the underlying election fraud by Bush, CNN had called the 2004 election for Kerry. But soon after and based on one of sixteen statistical impossibilities, a few thousand additional votes produced a five (5) point swing for Bush. This was also inconsistent with the exit polling results in the decisive states of Florida and Ohio. CNN then reversed itself and began calling the elections for Bush instead of Kerry. This action wiped out Kerry’s three (3) percentage points lead which he had gained up to 01:36 am and had Bush now leading by 2 percentage points in Florida. Only in America!

Pennsylvania also played a similar role in these fraudulent 2004 elections.

Enter Mitt Romney, and the 2012 elections, with Barack Obama seeking a second term. Romney comes along with the serial election fraudster Karl Rove. Maybe it was John McCain, given the man which he was said to be, who declined to participate in an election fraud against Obama in 2008. Donald Trump could never be depended upon to behave in such ways. History may indeed show that McCain created a break in the historic fraudulence of Karl Rove during the 2008 presidential elections – Obama v McCain.

Readers may recall Karl Rove, appearing on Fox News as commentator, in the 2012 elections, delaying a concession long after all indications were that Obama was being projected to be the winner of Ohio and thus would have garnered the 270 electoral votes to be the next president. Rove knew something only few others would have known.

It was Willian Skinner who alerted us about a report in the press concerning a motley group of hackers who were claiming to have discovered the planned electronic theft of Karl Rove and his associates and succeeded in blocking them, putting Rove’s agents into an electronic trap. As a result we are left to presume that Rove’s actions coupled with Romney’s long delayed concession was their way of giving the hidden and fraudulent hands more time to manifest this massive election fraud once more.

As we approach the first question and answer session on Tuesday (these could hardly pass for debates) Trump will see them as an opportunity to destroy Biden using his belligerent, uncouth, style. Biden’s handlers will be happy if they can get him out of there with at least a credible draw. There will be hardly any machinations, hopes, about winning given the damaged goods with which they have been handed. However, for Trump, less so than for Biden, the real game is taking place elsewhere and conducted by the forces of darkness from whence the whole panoply of American electoral fraud will be in a heightened state of readiness.

We have estimated that even if Joe Biden were to win the popular vote, win the Electoral College by a significant margin, win the exit polling, have all major media projecting him as the winner, by some chance have the Supreme Court declare him as winner, these will not be enough to convince Donald Trump that he is indeed anything less than the winner. Biden will then have to get Trump to concede and exit the White House, still. A dependence of the military brass is ill-advised. These may prove more difficult than winning the election as Trump has already prepared a case indicting the Democrats for engaging in massive election fraud. And as irrational as that maybe, we’ve seen this play reenacted for four years, Trump winning more often than not.

Biden the dependable nationalist, like Al Gore and John Kerry before him, may even find a way to capture defeat from the jaws of victory in order to preserve the republic and avoid a decent into civil unrest, even if the Supreme Court acted in his favour and against an adamant Donald Trump.

Of course, there will be demonstrations in the street regardless of final outcome..

There can be no daylight between the high-handed nomination of Amy Barrett and the election fraud being perpetrated by Donald J. Trump and those acting on his behalf. As this looming crisis to empire takes us on a slow march to a near unavoidable disaster it maybe high time for American policymakers to rethink all the structures on which this experiment was constructed. Certainly, an ‘exceptional nation’ should not have produced a Donald Trump, let alone have him elevated to the seat of power. A power position which then transforms a fraudster into a neo-fascist with the perceived power to say who, in the case of Venezuela, is to be that country’s president. The power of the presidency may be the one thing keeping Trump out of jail, Should he lose all bets are off. And Trump knows this too well.

Strengthened by the fraudulence of empire he can now do to America what the United States has for two hundred and fifty (250) years done to the rest of the world. One man, Donald J. Trump, has in a mere four (4) years done more damage to the United States of America than all the armies ever seen and not even a thousand Joe Bidens could recover it.


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  • Even the people over at Fox are repulsed.

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  • https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

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  • Tonight Debate made you think…Biden:Better of him 38% (+6)Worse of him 32%.Trump:Better of him 24% (-18)Worse of him 42%@YouGovAmerica/@CBSNewsPoll, Among Debate Watchers #Debates2020 pic.twitter.com/ukZSuP0i5l— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) September 30, 2020

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  • Won-lost? I changed channel after 40 minutes. It was an embarrassment. Only the politically addicted could have seen anything but a loss for the USofA. if those two are America’s best, then God save America.

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  • Cuhdear BajanSeptember 29, 2020 7:39 PM

    @Ironside “God absolutely hates – e.g. abortion.”

    Where did God say this? >>> The commandments: as in “thou shalt not kill?” <<<

    And does God also absolutely hate men who do not support their children? <<< Was that your problem? please do tell us! <<<

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  • Trumps main donor, Robert Mercer, sponsoring the push to remove universal healthcare, because he is set to make billions from the insurance and pharmaceutical industries from its removal. Spend some to make much, much more.

    Now you know why Trump and Pence are attacking universal healthcare.

    https://news.littlesis.org/2017/05/24/mercer-family-front-groups-attack-universal-healthcare-bill-in-new-york-state/

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  • More information on activities involving Emerdata and Trump. Interesting is a mild word.

    https://louisproyect.org/2018/04/12/the-two-degrees-of-separation-between-robert-mercer-and-chinese-communism/

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  • People have already made up their minds
    Poor chris Wallace
    He certainly was the biggest loser amongst the three

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  • David

    See what we told you. BU has to ban the Proud Boys and the christian-dominionist-dispensationalist-fascist-racists.

    Trump calls on them to “stand by”.

    This is what neo-fascism looks like and all the pieces are in place for an explosion entirely based on the word of the Adolf Hitler of our times.

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  • What was Quite Apparent :

    TRUMP DEBATED TWO PEOPLE And…. STILL …. WON.

    Trump soundly defeated his debate opponent, Chris Wallace … Chris Wallace lost major points for displaying to the world his lack of ability to hide his bias and his TDS ( Trump Derangement Syndrome). Chris Wallace might as well have worn a Biden campaign button! Trump said “I’m used to it”. And he’s right. Only been putting up with it ever since he announced in 2015.

    Wallace didn’t allow Trump to refute Biden’s lies but allowed Biden to smear Trump repeatedly. Wallace wouldn’t let President Trump interrupt Sleepy Joe…because Joe would forget his lines… I have never seen a moderator debate with a candidate like he did Trump. He would ask him a question, then interrupt him while he tried to answer it!!! He was half of the problem.

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  • These include the BU idiots, who are amongst an ignorant minority universally, who have promoted the misnomer that because national socialism has the word “socialism” in it that somehow it is a creation of the left of the political spectrum. Only idiots could believe this. It goes against history, reality and current circustances in our world. But yet the above described assholeeees will never relent.

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  • Trump won on physical appearance alone before the debate begun.

    Biden is old old old and looks it.

    Skin colour and tone as well as demeanor tell the story before a single word was uttered!!

    Trump will get there one day too, as we all will.

    It is ironic that back in 2015, there was the feeling that at 72 and with 2 failed attempts at the presidency he was too old.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/is-biden-too-old-to-run-for-president/2015/08/03/1efc5c3e-3a01-11e5-8e98-115a3cf7d7ae_story.html

    And yes I know, 72 is DT’s age.

    But he does not look or act it.

    That maybe the deciding difference on November 3, or whenever.

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  • There is also a rehearsed emptiness about Biden.

    Chris Wallace helped him alot.

    He should not be up there, but who knows, he might win.

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  • There is the Reagan answer.

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  • But Trump is neither a youth nor inexperienced!!

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  • Watched the first half of an hour of it and got tired of the shouting match. If that is an example of what to expect in the next 2 debates I will be watching the grass grow instead.

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  • 1.Trump will lose this election.

    2.As de ole man has said several years ago, “Trump’s mouth, IS GOING TO BE his undoing”

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    3.Post Election results will

    a.result in Trump seeking to invoke the Supreme Court in determining the results if the election WHICH TRUMP WILL CONTEST

    b.result in Trump stoking the reaction of his radical supporters now empowered by his “Stand Back and Stand by!” call to action

    In his words “it is going to end bad!” As per the upcoming storyline that WILL play out

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  • Biden does not have the Reagan touch.

    … and Trump is all business with the ability to make one line statements calculated rile up the opposition.

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  • At 72 years old, Biden was too old to ‘run’ for President.

    But, although Trump is 72, he could run, because “he does not look or act it.”

    Quaker John ‘harrows me with fear and wonder.’

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  • But like Reagan he has Irish roots.

    The luck of the Irish!!!

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  • Piece

    How are you accounting for fraud?

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  • ArtaxSeptember 30, 2020 7:31 AM

    At 72 years old, Biden was too old to ‘run’ for President.

    But, although Trump is 72, he could run, because “he does not look or act it.”

    Quaker John ‘harrows me with fear and wonder.’

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    Clinton won on his full head of hair!!!

    Trump has that and more.

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  • Trump wins on looks alone????????

    My GOD! Is John really that far gone ?????????

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  • Folks are wondering if there is a need for any further debates between Trump and Biden. Not sure what Trump’s strategy was but the part that I watched it seemed as if Trump was trying to overwhelm Biden with constant interruptions and a disregard for facts. Anyone who has ever watched Trump’s Press conferences shouldn’t be surprised.

    The fear today more than ever is whether Trump will accept the will of the people if he loses, America should prepare for a second Civil War.

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  • Chris Wallace only interrupted Joe Biden 15 times.
    Wallace interrupted President Trump 76 times!

    Biden got away with endless lies and cheap shots. The questions were mostly asked from a left perspective (“the science of climate change,” what’s wrong with “critical race theory” training,” etc.) and Biden went unchallenged by the moderator far too often. For example, for months Biden was silent about the riots, he has no real plan for the coronavirus, he supports public funding for abortion, etc. I’d also be interested in seeing the time allocation as well as it certainly seemed to me that Biden had more time. The president had to force his way into the discussion at times, he was quite good on specifics and getting his issues into the debate. Biden unleashed repeated personal attacks, including resorting to name-calling, like “clown,” “racist,” “shut up,” etc. And Biden looked 10-years older than his 77 years.

    Chris Wallace posed questions to Trump aimed at cornering him while posing questions to Biden giving him a chance to explain himself. It was two against one, but one still prevailed.

    We all saw the manipulation. Who wouldn’t interrupt when it is a clear set up.

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  • “Clinton won on his full head of hair!!! Trump has that and more.”

    Perhaps Tron should be bit more cautious, because it seems as though the Quaker wants to become the new ‘BU jester.’

    I believe Quaker John’s contributions are meant to be provocative. He deliberately annoys and irritates people to draw their wrath.

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  • @Artax

    Please desist from making fun of John, he is a Barbados scholar!

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  • A socalled “scholar” is not inconsistent with being a racist.

    It took many scholarly people to get Afrikan people to accept somebody else’s white god. For example.

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  • Joe Biden was not chosen because he was the best on offer. He was chosen because he is the least frightening to white men. Anything to get rid of the terror that is Trump.

    In order to move forward, the USA first has to stop going backwards. Biden is meant to be the stabilizer.

    That’s all.

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  • The drug Finasteride (Proscar/Propecia) is used to treat enlarged prostates and to encourage hair growth in men.
    Trump’s former physician Dr. Bornstein admitted that Trump takes the drug to help his hair growth (for his trouble his office was raided and his files seized by the Secret Service). If John admires Trump’s hair that is where the severe comb over comes from but he should watch for the bald spots when the wind takes hold of it.

    Just the facts

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  • SargeantSeptember 30, 2020 7:55 AM

    The fear today more than ever is whether Trump will accept the will of the people if he loses, America should prepare for a second Civil War

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    Don’t worry, it ain’t going to happen!!

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  • Isn’t it funny how the biggest clowns on the blog attempt to make fun of John? (paraphrased)🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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  • There is nothing to support
    Dems are all hate bait lies and smoke and mirrors!

    Oh yes… I noticed. All he did was attack… he didn’t reveal what he’s going to do. I could stand up there and say, “I’m going to fix the economy” too. What’s the plan Joe?? Oh yeah, go back to sleep and let Trump continue to make America great again!

    Biden telling Trump to back to his bunker? Hilarious! The guy who shuts down by 9AM!!

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  • Trump sends signals to the “Proud Boys” and his local supporters (FC and John) say “right on you have our support”

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  • ArtaxSeptember 30, 2020 7:58 AM

    “Clinton won on his full head of hair!!! Trump has that and more.”

    Perhaps Tron should be bit more cautious, because it seems as though the Quaker wants to become the new ‘BU jester.’

    I believe Quaker John’s contributions are meant to be provocative. He deliberately annoys and irritates people to draw their wrath.

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    Just sharing some common sense.

    I got the full head of hair from an Aubrey Collymore scholar.

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  • Common sense is not at all common

    We have never seen you as a recipient of such a scarce commodity.

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  • Sargeant,

    And just yesterday morning Moneybrain attempted to school me in who and what is a racist and berated me for introducing racism into the conversation.

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  • FOR THE RECORD

    This Is What You Get When You Vote Republican OR Democrat…

    Prosperity/Wealth/Success/Fortune and Opportunities for all in Republican Run Cities!!

    VERSUS POVERTY….

    Scarcity / Deficiency … Crime and Lawlessness through the Roof…

    Same In All DemocRat Run Cities!

    https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=3681887825162822&set=a.213793961972243

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  • DonnaSeptember 30, 2020 8:15 AM

    Joe Biden was not chosen because he was the best on offer. He was chosen because he is the least frightening to white men. Anything to get rid of the terror that is Trump.

    In order to move forward, the USA first has to stop going backwards. Biden is meant to be the stabilizer.

    That’s all.

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    Not according to Joe Biden last night.

    “I am the Democratic Party”!!

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  • “Chris Wallace only interrupted Joe Biden 15 times. Wallace interrupted President Trump 76 times!”

    ‘Trump Crier’ is a very dishonest individual.

    Why shouldn’t Chris Wallace have interrupted Trump when he (Trump) repeatedly interrupted the moderator…… and Biden, more so than Biden interrupted him? This behaviour caused Wallace to interrupt Trump on several occasions, in an attempt to ‘take back’ control of the debate.

    And, I’m sure ‘Trump Crier’ conveniently ignored the fact when both men were given an opportunity to speak on a specific topic, uninterrupted for 2 minutes. Whereas Biden allowed Trump to speak for the allotted time, Trump repeatedly interrupted him.

    Wallace had difficulty establishing control over a debate, which was more of a ‘brawl’ than anything else I could think of at this time. Trump refused to adhere to the debate’s rules, interrupting and insulting Biden (and the moderator) every opportunity he got.

    Overall, it was disappointing and devoid of substance, where both men were noncommittal on issues and continually interrupted and insulted each other.

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  • Picture says a 10000000000 words!!

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  • Biden is an old man ….. his demeanor alone says it

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  • Barring unforseen quirks of fate the Democrat party will be severely damaged.

    That’s the last thing I want.

    There needs to be an opposition.

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  • @ David BU

    Far from it. I’m not “making fun of John.” I’m wondering if at the time he was awarded his scholarship, there wasn’t an issue with the Universities of London or Cambridge ‘A’ Level results, similar to what’s currently occurring with CXC’s CAPE.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    You are an astute observer @Sargeant so yes you got the POTUS strategy right :to rattle/overwhelm Biden and thus deflect from the landslide of negative news possibly to be thrown at POTUS…. Alas, he succeeded well initially.

    @Donna echoes the cry of millions of other viewers too: ‘oh well Joe Biden was ok he held his own’… But of course we want lenders to dominate not ‘hold their own’! …. Bottom-line it felt that Biden was unable to rumble with him (not exchanging insults but squashing his puerile behavior) … what one knows of a younger Biden surely he would have sliced him to shreds and humiliated his backside. … He needs to find that youthful vigor going forward!

    The flip side of that is to read the absurd ‘positivity’ created by the trumpets that Wallace ‘interrupted’ POTUS 76-15… that type of after debate spin is so freaking incredulous but they pronounce it like ‘Proud Boys’ and Girls….

    You ONLY interrupt an unmannerly, out-of-control bully who is making a mockery of basic civility. SMH! … And how do we abide a leader who will say ANYTHING to satisfy his desire for success… the man either blatantly lied (or misspoke) when he said that the Portland Sherriff had endorsed him.

    Yes SMH … I fully agree this will end very badly… but are WE ready here in Bim for the fall-out… serious unrest in the US is like another pandemic hit to our economy. MAM should be encouraging expats in particular to take up the ‘remote work’ program, post haste!

    (As noted last night, there could be an actual delay to announce a winner due to the many mail-ballots which can ONLY be counted starting Nov 3rd… in close contested states results can go down to a Dec 8th deadline announcement date) …

    … Let’s ALL be ready to be proud boys and girls for justice… some of us likely for the last time.

    I gone!

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  • SargeantSeptember 30, 2020 7:55 AM

    Folks are wondering if there is a need for any further debates between Trump and Biden. Not sure what Trump’s strategy was but the part that I watched it seemed as if Trump was trying to overwhelm Biden with constant interruptions and a disregard for facts. Anyone who has ever watched Trump’s Press conferences shouldn’t be surprised.

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    It is elder abuse, those in control of the Democrat Party should be ashamed.

    There should be no further debates.

    Politics unfortunately is a blood sport.

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  • The Democrat Party’s fate may be sealed.

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  • ArtaxSeptember 30, 2020 9:52 AM

    @ David BU

    Far from it. I’m not “making fun of John.” I’m wondering if at the time he was awarded his scholarship, there wasn’t an issue with the Universities of London or Cambridge ‘A’ Level results, similar to what’s currently occurring with CXC’s CAPE.

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    You will have to wait till next year to find out.

    I won a scholarship 2 years running, 1974 and 1975.

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  • The Democrat party leadership is telling its supporters they are prepared to heartlessly sacrifice an old person for the party.

    Their problem is that many of the people who will vote Democrat are themselves old.

    If the old Democrat voters decide to let their anger be known, they will do so silently, at the voters’ booth..

    Trump could win the popular vote with in excess of 70% of the electorate.

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  • DonnaSeptember 30, 2020 8:15 AM

    Joe Biden was not chosen because he was the best on offer. He was chosen because he is the least frightening to white men. Anything to get rid of the terror that is Trump.

    In order to move forward, the USA first has to stop going backwards. Biden is meant to be the stabilizer.

    That’s all.

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    Chosen by whom??

    That is precisely the logic that will probably ensure a most monumental defeat!!

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  • Yes Way… Biden Wearing a Wire….Dem Only Know To Tief!!

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  • The perception that Biden was probably pumped full of drugs to play a part is there.

    Trump has made it plain without actually saying it by asking for a drug test.

    If it is the case and becomes exposed, especially before the elections, the Democrat party is toast.

    Lots of aging Democrats who understand.

    The younger ones don’t have a clue.

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  • Would Trump take an IQ test? Since Trump is also anti-Semitic, I am surprised the Soviet refugee is one of his supporters.

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  • Smart man

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  • What happened to Lindsey?

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  • Hal AustinSeptember 30, 2020 11:43 AM

    Would Trump take an IQ test? Since Trump is also anti-Semitic, I am surprised the Soviet refugee is one of his supporters.

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    His IQ was on display for all capable of seeing to behold.

    He has planted mines in the Democrat campaign they are unable to comprehend which are set to explode on November 3.

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  • Dr. Rudy talking about Biden but look who the cap fits…….

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  • Trump plans to turn full control of the USA over to Putin when he wins.

    This is a known fact. Putin has all over him and the end game is here, where he allows Putin to take fulk control.

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  • Quaker John

    Trump’s intelligence was on display last night. Was that similar to yours which is on display almost everyday?

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  • RE “ Since Trump is also anti-Semitic,… “• Hal Austin September 30, 2020 11:43 AM

    Are You Living on Planet Earth?…

    https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=898074423933914&set=a.878362629238427

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  • Hal AustinSeptember 30, 2020 12:21 PM

    Quaker John

    Trump’s intelligence was on display last night. Was that similar to yours which is on display almost everyday?
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    Trump’s is vastly superior!!

    Like most people I get it after the event!!

    Trump is a stable genius, I am not!!

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  • Proud Boys

    Trump’s kind of people

    Members of the Proud Boys, a far-right group that has endorsed violence, celebrated on Tuesday night after President Trump mentioned them during the first presidential debate.

    Asked whether he condemned white supremacists and military groups, Mr. Trump demurred and then said, “Proud Boys — stand back and stand by.

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  • “Cease and desist”. Biden words to the Proud Girls”

    These are fighting words. And the way all racist-terrorists of all kinds and everywhere should be dealt with.

    Fascists cannot be negotiated with.

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  • SargeantSeptember 30, 2020 12:49 PM

    Proud Boys

    Trump’s kind of people

    Members of the Proud Boys, a far-right group that has endorsed violence, celebrated on Tuesday night after President Trump mentioned them during the first presidential debate.

    Asked whether he condemned white supremacists and military groups, Mr. Trump demurred and then said, “Proud Boys — stand back and stand by.

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    If you listened to the debate you would have heard Chris Wallace fumbling when Trump asked him to be specific and say who he wanted to stand down.

    Chris Wallace wanting to be politically correct and avoid labeling a specific group as “white supremacist” fumbled about and came up with Proud Boys.

    So Trump did what he asked.

    Now Proud Boys have the right to be righteously indignant and ask Chris Wallace for an apology!!

    Trump turned it into a throw away question.

    He out thought Chris Wallace by putting him on the spot and asking him to be specific.

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  • What Trump did was to force Chris Wallace to be specific.

    It always works!!

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  • The Racist History Of Joe Biden and The Democratic Party & Why I Support Donald Trump!

    This man needs to run for Congress, he knows what he’s talking about he’s good with his language with his history, this man has got great common sense.

    “The Democrat Party is not just immediately racist in the present day. They’ve been racist their entire existence”

    2020 California Congressional candidate Error Webber breaks down some of the shameful racist history of the Democrat Party that the mainstream media won’t tell you, the “sordid history” of Joe Biden and why Errol supports Donald Trump.

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  • If you also notice, Trump also forced Biden to put his position and that of the Democrat Party on Antifa.

    “It is an idea”

    It takes no IQ to realise that is rubbish but it takes tremendous IQ to put your opponent into a position where he can destroy himself in front of the voters.

    On listening to the clip again, Chris Wallace actually would not name the group … it was Biden!!!!

    He is not going to go down the White Supremacist line in a hurry, but who knows.

    Trump creamed him royally and Chris Wallace knows it!!

    Hence the hurried departure from the topic.

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  • @John

    It must be lunchtime.

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  • Trump nailed him

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  • I can only stand back in awe.

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  • Joe Biden in his heyday!!

    … with Jay Leno … cutting off Donald Trump on I95!!

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  • DavidSeptember 30, 2020 1:27 PM

    @John

    It must be lunchtime.

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    Rain had me confined indoors.

    So continued some modeling on the computer and also having some fun.

    Multitasking

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  • Looking forward to hearing Rush Limbaugh’s take on the debate later.

    Will let you know!!

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  • JohnSeptember 30, 2020 1:44 PM Looking forward to hearing Rush Limbaugh’s take on the debate later. Will let you know!!
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    Thanks, looking forward to it. He will probably do it, after he has finished with Falwell and his wife.

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  • JohnSeptember 30, 2020 1:28 PM Trump nailed him..JohnSeptember 30, 2020 1:25 PM Trump creamed him royally
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    Who do you mean? One of the Proud Boys or Falwell?

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  • Donna September 30, 2020 7:44 AM Trump wins on looks alone???????? My GOD! Is John really that far gone ????????
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    John is a Proud BOY who has a thing for Trump. He loves Donnie. Look at the language that he uses to describe Trump’s doings. Freud would have a field day.

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  • TRUMP’S BOYS

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  • WHAT’S NEW?

    Richard Spencer, neo-Nazi, white supremacist, and organizer of the infamous 2017 Charlottesville riots, announced yesterday on Twitter that he will be voting for Joe Biden in the upcoming 2020 election.

    A Twitter user asked Spencer if he will be voting for Biden or sitting out the election, given his belief that “Biden/Kamala will be tougher on crime/BLM than Trump.” Spencer responded, “I plan to vote for Biden and a straight democratic ticket.

    Additionally, Trump issued a statement from the White House, and referred to “KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

    While Trump has been labeled an avid racist by his political opponents and members of the media, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are being endorsed by one of the most notorious racists in America. If the corporate media didn’t memory-hole Biden’s history of racist comments and the links between abortion and white nationalist goals, it might not come as such a shock.

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  • Trump the only President to be investigated by the IRS.

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  • John as much as I like trump last night was a mess, he could have picked biden apart easily but he didnt prepare, he thought biden would really start to fall apart under pressure but for the most part he didnt and when he may have ….trump talked over him . Trump just kept butting in and going off on tangents for example when asked what he has done for the black community he could have said prison reform,named someone let out, more jobs raised wages higher than for whites give amt, has opened with tim scott opportunity zones , money to black universities, etc etc but was so intent on making him crack missed a lot of the good things he has done . I just got sick of watching the both of them but one thing that did bug me was chris wallace going after trump on an alleged story on taxes but didnt himself ask biden about that 3 million from russian mayors wife to his son that would have been a more level playing field. but he kinda set the tone for the night by putting him on the spot ….. If trump had of prepared he would have been ready for him his handlers need a kick in the ass it seems they have decided to try and split aoc and bernie wing from biden rather than get the undecideds

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  • President Trump updates his debate remarks about the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group: "They have to stand down, let law enforcement do their work." pic.twitter.com/CXZIvG0fuY— NBC News (@NBCNews) September 30, 2020

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  • Crusoe ?????? you do know that every president and vice president are audited (investigated) every year by the IRS

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    David POTUS has said he doesn’t know who or what the Proud Boys are! Go figure.

    Juat as he didn’t know David Duke and just as he now says he was being sarcastic with the inject bleach folly or just as he denied last night saying we could just nuke big hurricanes !

    It would be a joy working for this man or being simply fanatical to his every act bcz u dont have to worry about anything … you can simply denying he said it, was jesting , misspoke or whatever sounds sweet and NOT a fan voter is lost.

    It is scary that this man can behave like this and is not being blown out in the election…

    Last night we heard the man dismiss the science of US govt officials, dismiss his FBI director, basically say whatever the hell he wanted to say, abrasively attack the moderator and his fellow debater…. yet today all across the net the moderator is being blamed with being biased against him!

    Scary!

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  • CrusoeSeptember 30, 2020 2:10 PM

    JohnSeptember 30, 2020 1:44 PM Looking forward to hearing Rush Limbaugh’s take on the debate later. Will let you know!!
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    Thanks, looking forward to it. He will probably do it, after he has finished with Falwell and his wife.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Here you go.

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  • dribbler you dont want to work for this guy, that lawn at mara lago looks big and probably take for ever to mow

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  • de pedantic DribblerSeptember 30, 2020 4:53 PM

    David POTUS has said he doesn’t know who or what the Proud Boys are!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Chris Wallace did not know either when asked to name someone to ask to stand down.

    Biden did however!!

    Trump has just closed out Chris Wallace and turned his question into a throw away.

    So, DPD, do you know other white supremacist organisations?

    Get specific.

    If so, could you please tell Chris Wallace or whoever the next moderator is so they can ask Trump to say to them to stand down and let the police deal with the violence of BLM and Antifa.

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  • LawsonSeptember 30, 2020 5:01 PM

    dribbler you dont want to work for this guy, that lawn at mara lago looks big and probably take for ever to mow

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    Only a problem if DPD doesn’t have the IQ to drive a zero turn in which case Trump will tell him “YOU’RE FIRED”

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  • Rush Limbaugh basically says every time a debate threatened to break out one of the three debaters stopped it!!

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  • Vice President Mike Pence: Trump "won that presidential debate hands down" https://t.co/WN0465GieU pic.twitter.com/64h8ljlCwt— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) September 30, 2020

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  • So, google “Proud Boys” and you will see that in the whole of the United States there are 160 members with 300 applications pending.

    What a lot of White Supremacists!!!

    Could almost fit in a phone booth!!

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  • “Membership

    According to David Neiwert, they recruit with emphasis on right-wing 15–30 year old white males who come primarily from suburbs and exurbs.[53] The Proud Boys say they have an initiation process that has four stages and includes hazing. The first stage is a loyalty oath, on the order of “I’m a proud Western chauvinist, I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world”; the second is getting punched until the person recites pop culture trivia, such as the names of five breakfast cereals; the third is getting a tattoo and agreeing to not masturbate; and the fourth is getting into a major fight “for the cause.”[19][30][54][55][56][57]

    The Daily Beast reported in February 2018 that the Proud Boys have amended rules. Prohibition against cargo shorts, use of opioids and crystal meth. The article states restrictions were not placed on cocaine. The masturbation policy was modified to read: “no heterosexual brother of the Fraternity shall masturbate more than one time in any calendar month”.[58]

    Women aren’t allowed to be Proud Boys[41] and the unnamed president of Proud Boys L.A. told the Los Angeles Times the group only admits “biological men”.[59] In July 2018, the group had 160 members and up to 300 pending applicants, according to the unidentified Proud Boys L.A. president.[59]”

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  • David

    Pence is a sycophant. Adolf Hitler had his type around as well.

    Their main characteristics are submisiveness to Trump but ruthlessness to underlings.

    The psychologist just after ww2 did the groundbreaking work on this condition.

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  • Only Joe Biden, dpd, pachamama and Sarge could come up with something as ridiculous as this.

    No wonder Chris Wallace nor Trump knew of their existence!!

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  • Sargeant,

    Thanks for the video. First laughs for the day. These Trump supporters are such liars that the videos mean nothing to them. Freedom Liar, John the Racist and co. are shameless individuals, of the same ilk as Lindsay Graham.

    I have met people who have different perspectives and I have been able to see where they were coming from even though I disagreed. But never have I met such creatures who can step over the plain truth and carry on as though we never saw them do it.

    Frightening people! Truly scary!

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