COVID Pleading

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Submitted by Grenville Phillips II

If your house was flooded with water, and the water level was rising, what would you do? The obvious solution would be to close the water faucet, and then start cleaning up.

With our COVID-19 cases rising, we recommended closing our borders to visitors and shutting down the economy for 2 weeks, starting Wednesday 25 March 2020 (Point 1 on the graph). We stated that that date was critical to reducing internal transmission rates to zero, with minimal disruption.
That advice was not accepted, and we waited until the horse was out of the stable to do a half-hearted shut down on Sunday night (Point 2 on the graph). However, for some mysterious reason, we kept the faucet running.
All of our cases can be traced to someone who was allowed to enter through our open ports. If we wanted to keep them open, then the obvious solution would be to test everyone for the virus before letting them into our general population.

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That advice was not accepted either. So to the present day, we continue to allow persons to enter Barbados without being tested. We again plead with the Government to close the faucet, so that we can start to get this under control. This now has fatal consequences.
On Wednesday 1 April 2020, the Government instituted a mandatory 14-day quarantine for everyone who arrived in Barbados. It would be a far more efficient use of our resources to test each traveller, and only quarantine the infected persons. But that advice was not accepted either.
As can be seen from the graph, the number of cases is not declining. How can it unless we close the faucet, or at the very least, test everyone who enters? Why is this so difficult to understand?
RECOMMENDATIONS
A 14-day shut-down could have been effective, but we are not taking advantage of this opportunity. If the number of cases on Sunday 12 April 2020 is about 75, then we would have unnecessarily squandered this opportunity.
If the shut-down is extended, because there is no improvement, then you need to survive. If you are receiving welfare grants, or have been selected to share in the Government’s $10M needy families program, or similar programs, then you should be looked after.
Due exclusively to Government’s procurement policies, many Barbadian are either working-poor, or house-poor, or both. If their job or house excludes them from receiving assistance, then they still need to look after their families.
Banks have provided a useful mortgage deferred payment initiative. Banks will allow persons to not make any mortgage payments for the next three months. After that time, you may have three options.
You may: pay the accumulated mortgage after the 3 months; extend your mortgage for three months; or treat the unpaid mortgage as a short-term loan, and pay it back over an agreed time.
The main benefit is that if you are not earning for a prolonged period, then you have the option of spending your remaining money on food, without putting your mortgage at risk.
We recommend that you communicate with your bank on what you want to do, before making another mortgage payment.
Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer and President of Solutions Barbados. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

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  • The banks along with other financial institutions have already announced a 90 day moratorium on loans effective April 1st. There is no need to therfore contact them.

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  • The readers may find the article below interesting, As I have said previously persons who are trained in the field for the most part are handling things. Some mistakes have been made, Matters should be left in the hands of those who are trained in the discipline

    EXCLUSIVE: ‘Normal life won’t resume until 2021.’ Top scientist in pandemic preparedness says we won’t going back to our daily lives until there’s a coronavirus vaccine – which could take over a year
    Ali Nouri, President of the Federation of American Scientists, told DailyMail.com that the public may not be ‘going back to our daily lives’ for another year
    Nouri says normal life cannot resume until a vaccine against coronavirus is in circulation, which could take over a year to produce
    He warns the the virus could resurge in several ways without a proper vaccine
    ‘There’s not going to be a time when there is a magic date and then everybody goes back to their lives as normal,’ he says
    He says that the US is far from flattening the curve of coronavirus infections
    By RYAN PARRY, WEST COAST EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM AND JOSH BOSWELL FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

    PUBLISHED: 16:56 BST, 7 April 2020 | UPDATED: 19:54 BST, 7 April 2020

    A top scientist and expert in pandemic preparedness and response has issued a stark warning to the American public: ‘Normal life won’t resume until 2021.’

    Ali Nouri, President of the Federation of American Scientists, told DailyMail.com that the public may not be ‘going back to our daily lives’ until a vaccine against coronavirus is in circulation, which could take over a year.

    Dr Nouri, an expert in virology, cell biology, and developmental biology, cautioned anyone hoping for social distancing or lockdown precautions to be dropped before summer that the virus was ‘unprecedented’ in living memory and could resurge in several waves.

    ‘We will certainly have to continue these stay at home orders for I suspect at least through the end of May, or perhaps some time in June,’ the leading scientist said.

    ‘There’s not going to be a time when there is a magic date and then everybody goes back to their lives as normal. That’s not going to happen for a long time.

    ‘Once June comes around, once July comes around, it’s not going to be the kind of situation where people are going to be going to crowded restaurants and movie theaters. Things are going to be different, I suspect, until we have the vaccine.’

    Nouri said that the US is currently far from ‘flattening the curve’, a mantra of public health officials meaning reducing the rate of infection enough to keep hospitals from becoming overwhelmed.

    He said even though the ground zero of the crisis, Wuhan, China, had cracked down hard on the virus and was several weeks further along in their containment process than the US, it was still enforcing some lockdown measures.

    Despite reporting no new domestic cases of the virus, the Chinese government is still telling residents of the city to stay indoors where possible.’That really tells you that this virus has the potential to really flare up again, even in places that have flattened the curve,’ Nouri added.

    ‘If we do really do a good job of flattening that curve and reducing the number of transmissions from person to person, we still have to be very careful while we lift those restrictions.

    ‘What’s really different about this novel coronavirus is that it’s this combination of both being very contagious and then also at the same time being about 10 times more lethal than the flu.’
    Current data suggests each person with coronavirus infects more than two others, on average.

    More than 3,000 people died from the virus in Wuhan, a city of 11 million people, accounting for the majority of the deaths in mainland China.

    A Lancet study published earlier this month by researchers at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine found that extending the lockdown through April could buy crucial time for hospitals and delay a second wave of infections from late August to October.

    ‘The city now needs to be really careful to avoid prematurely lifting physical-distancing measures, because that could lead to an earlier secondary peak in cases,’ said study co-author Kiesha Prem.

    Nouri has been the head of the FAS since 2018, prior to that he served in Congress advising Senators Jim Webb and Al Franken for over a decade.

    He served in various positions including as legislative director, national security advisor, energy and environment advisor, and as a science and technology advisor. He began his Senate career as a AAAS Congressional Science and Engineering Fellow.

    Nouri is co-chair of the National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine’s New Voices initiative; serves on the upcoming National Academy’s Global Science Diplomacy Roundtable; and chairs the AAAS Science and Engineering Fellowship Advisory Committee.

    He has also served as an advisor in the office of then UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, and as a research associate at Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School where he developed initiatives to bolster global health, while working to reduce the risk of deliberate biological weapon attacks.

    He holds a B.A. in Biology from Reed College and a Ph.D. in Molecular Biology from Princeton University.

    Dr Nouri, who has previously served in Congress advising Senators Jim Webb and Al Franken, said that to effectively tackle COVID-19, America needs to have far more widespread testing, not only to detect who has the virus but also who has since become immune.

    ‘The really challenging part of this is that the virus can be passed on asymptomatically. As high as 25% of infections turn out to be coming from people who don’t even know that they themselves are infected,’ the infectious disease

    ‘We need a lot more diagnostic testing. We need to really have a really good idea of the dynamics of the infection; who’s infected, who’s not infected. So when we actually do leave our homes, when we do identify new cases, we can quickly introduce mitigation measures again on areas that are impacted.

    ‘We’ll probably also need to expand serological tests where we can detect antibodies in individuals that already succumbed to the virus and have recovered and therefore are more likely to have a level of immunity that others may not have.’

    The number of cases nationwide Monday shot to 368,254, with at least 11,000 dead, according to data compiled by John Hopkins University.

    Dr Nouri warned against a ‘patchwork system’ where some states are stricter than others, which he blamed on indecision by the White House.

    ‘The White House is essentially saying ”we’re gonna leave it to you to decide”,’ he said.

    ‘In Virginia the governor has issued stay at home orders until June 10th which I think was the right thing to do, but in Florida you don’t have anything in place.

    ‘You could end up creating a patchwork system where some states are doing a better job than others. This is a global pandemic that doesn’t recognize those state lines. There has to be more uniformity across the board.’

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  • @ Robert

    You seem to love the Daily Mail.

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  • For once I thank GP2. It is obvious that the epidemic is spreading only linearly, but not exponentially like in the north. I have been predicting this for a long time.

    We should therefore not panic. If we can get through the lockdown properly, the plague will be wiped out by the end of the month.

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  • Donald Trump Has Stake In Hydroxychloroquine Drugmaker: Report
    President Donald Trump reportedly owns a stake in a company that produces hydroxychloroquine, the anti-malaria drug he has repeatedly touted as a coronavirus treatment even though his experts say there’s no strong evidence it works.
    Trump “has a small personal financial interest” in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine, The New York Times reported Monday.
    In addition, Sanofi’s largest shareholders include a mutual fund company run by major Republican donor Ken Fisher, the paper said. Trump’s three family trusts, as of last year, each had investments in a mutual fund whose largest holding was Sanofi, according to the Times. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross also had ties to the drugmaker, the Times reported.
    Trump’s “assertiveness” in promoting the drug contrary to the recommendation of top health experts “has raised questions about his motives,” the Times noted.(Quote)

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  • I don’t know what Trump’s motivation is but there is good scientific reasoning behind the POSSIBLE benefits of Hydroxychloroquine. I did did some more research on the possible benefits of Hydoxychloroquine in the treatment of covid-19 related complications. I came across the following scientific paper. Readers can jump to the conclusion.

    https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID-19_Disease_ORF8_and_Surface_Glycoprotein_Inhibit_Heme_Metabolism_by_Binding_to_Porphyrin/11938173/5

    If the findings of this paper are correct then the implication is that going on a ventilator may be predictive of a poor outcome but ” chloroquine could prevent orf1ab, ORF3a, and ORF10 to attack the heme to form the porphyrin, and inhibit the binding of ORF8 and surface glycoproteins to porphyrins to a certain extent, effectively relieve the symptoms of respiratory distress.”

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  • Please google—Sermo Global Survey for details.

    are U aware of any drug that does not have the potential for some side effect? Aspirin has done a fanstatic job for most people for donkey’s years but for some stomach bleed! Acetomenophin ie Tylenol, Paracetamol are excellent but mixed in with alcohol can potentially kill! Hence the saying for Emergencies / War “dont have horse ride cow”. Dr Daniel J Wallace, Rheumatologist, runs the largest such clinic in the USA has used HCQ formany years and says it is very safe and in 42 yrs has never had a patient hospitalised. Dr Marlow Hernandez, MDCano Hlth says he is using the protocol HCQ, zinc and Azithromicin with much success. Dr Stephen Smith, ID Specialist, using protocol great success. ditto DR Anthony Cardillo. Karen Whitsett , Dem Mich State Rep, had the virus for more than 19 days, had to fight with Mich authorities to attain permission to use as her idiot Gov Witmer Dem, was being an JennyASS, aka halfWit mer, her health plummeted and the Docs gave her the HCQ with other items as posted she had very positive results in HOURS! She is Afro Am Dem and she said “it saved my life.”

    Many thousands of Docs using the protocl successfully.

    Only real fools would buy Sanofi because of HCQ since it has been off patent for 50 years + and a malaria course costs US$20 . Maybe 1% of total sales at Sanofi and not very profitable.haha

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @PingPong one does not need to know the POTUS motives and in simple fact the benefit of hydoxychloroquine is a decision between the patient and his/her doctor.

    Personally I can’t believe that this man could be so crass and personally greedy to tout the drug because of his financial holdings…yes he is very self serving but this would be a lowest of low even for him…

    This continued push of the chloroquine option is rather perplexing as it’s not a magic pill and as with all medicines it has its side effects ..let the matter be deliberated in the patient’s room and not at WH pressers…this is simply ridiculous !

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Money, what exactly are you trying here with “Only real fools would buy Sanofi because of HCQ since it has been off patent for 50 years + and a malaria course costs US$20 . Maybe 1% of total sales at Sanofi and not very profitable.haha”

    That is disingenuous… and you know it. The issue is NOT the malaria treatment regimen but the astronomical spikes in sales for COVID patients if widespread approval is made.

    As I said I really don’t believe that Trump could be so low but to see YOU hop on like speedy Gonzalez with a talking point already now gives me pause. SMH

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  • Dribs pleeeez dont expose yourself. It is a very cheap drug it will not effect the EPS if sales triple. Pharmas make $$$$$$ on Patents! Anyway if U check he does not own Sanofi it is the usual Leftist / Dem / pressTITUTE proaganda!

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  • As I have written before there is very reasonable scientific findings that hydroxychloroquine may relieve the symptoms of respiratory distress. Doctors should consider this and all medicines on the basis of scientific findings not on media approval or disapproval of someone who may tout a medicine. The North American media is so polarised that it has ceased to be informative in a positive way. Barbados has invested quite a lot in ventilators. The experience in North America as told to me by a A and E doctor in the USA, is that the overwhelming majority of patients die after going on ventilators and they die at such a rate that hospitals do not find ventilators in short supply.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler April 7, 2020 4:39 PM #: “As I said I really don’t believe that Trump could be so low but to see YOU hop on like speedy Gonzalez with a talking point already now gives me pause. SMH”

    @ de pedantic Dribbler

    You handle these ‘Trumpsters’ really well.

    I happen to come across the following YouTube video, while I was searching for old episodes of comedies. Ironically, it alleged to have been financed by some Republicans who are dissatisfied with FOX News coverage of the virus.

    If you watch it, you’ll be amazed the level supposedly intelligent men and women would stoop just to keep in Trump’s ‘good books.’ It’s simply beyond reason.

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  • Critical Analyzer

    Will the government please make mask wearing in public mandatory.

    No wonder it keeps spreading so fast in all the various countries with the so called experts getting it wrong.

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  • Doctor Faucu as recent s yesterday stated there isn’t enough evidence to support. As you know he is considered a guru in the area of infectious diseases.

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  • We have three deaths so far.

    How many have we had due to flu?

    No one knows!!

    No one seems interested.

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  • Taiwan has few deaths, Singapore as well.

    Both got hit by SARS.

    What does SARS stand for?

    Severe acute respiratory syndrome

    Description

    A contagious and sometimes fatal respiratory illness caused by a coronavirus.

    SARS appeared in 2002 in China. It spread worldwide within a few months, though it was quickly contained. SARS is a virus transmitted through droplets that enter the air when someone with the disease coughs, sneezes, or talks. No known transmission has occurred since 2004.

    Fever, dry cough, headache, muscle aches, and difficulty breathing are symptoms.

    No treatment exists except supportive care.

    Could it be that Taiwan and Singapore have a level of immunity not shared by other countries?

    We may be shooting ourselves in the foot.

    The symptoms of SARS are identical to those of COVID-19.

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  • John go and listen to the press conference this morning.

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  • @ Hal April 7, 2020 3:20 PM

    It is a bit on the sleazy side but it publishes a lot of stuff others do not. I used to use the “Sun” and by the way, I noticed the ‘Sun” has interview videos on You Tube of very high quality. You must say a pray ( if you pray) for your arch enemy Boris.

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  • @ Robert

    You are moving up market, from the Sun to the Daily Mail. The editor of the Sun is ex DM, not one of my favourite former colleagues. I wish Boris well.

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  • @ Hal April 7, 2020 3:45 PM

    Some researchers say it is working. You are according to Trump ulterior motives. I do not think he has been touting it for that reason. As a matter of fact is the report correct? there is another report claiming that the administration did not heed a warning about the pandemic in late December early January. People forget that when the first case of the virus was detected and Trump ordered the ban on flights from China, he was deemed a racist. As a matter of Cuomo, Pelosi and the mayor of NYC all said it was a racist move and they all encouraged people to mingle ,claiming that the virus posed no harm.

    Do you remember Ken Farnum? He has died aged 89.

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  • GP A FAKE UNQUALIFIED DOCTOR.

    these covid rants and raves on BU are most entertaining!

    example Doctor Faucu as recent s yesterday stated there isn’t enough evidence to support. As you know he is considered a guru in the area of infectious diseases.

    he is a guru in the area of infectious diseases. BUT NOT IN PHARMACOLOGY AND DURING THIS PANDEMIC HE HAS NOT BEEN ACTIVE AS A CLINICIAN TREATING PATIENTS

    THE CLINICIANS WHO ARE ACTIVELY TREATING PATIENTS SAY THAT IT WORKS! THERE IS NOW CONSIDERABLE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE THAT DEMONSTRATES THAT IT IT WORKS

    PIN PONG IS MAKING SENSE!
    As I have written before there is very reasonable scientific findings that hydroxychloroquine may relieve the symptoms of respiratory distress. Doctors should consider this and all medicines on the basis of scientific findings RATHER CLINICAL FINDINGS

    THIS ONE IS CUTE TOO

    This continued push of the chloroquine option is rather perplexing as it’s not a magic pill
    ALL PILLS THAT WORK ARE MAGIC PILLS! EVEN ASPIRIN! ASPIRIN IS THE PROTOTYPE OF ALL NSAIDS.

    and as with all medicines it has its side effects TELL US WHAT ARE THE SIDE EFFECTS SIR

    THE FACT IS IT HAS A WIDE THERAPEUTIC INDEX…WHICH IS A FACTOR IN ITS FAVOR

    MONEY BRAIN IS ALSO CORRECT ……..Many thousands of Docs using the protocl successfully. YES MANY THOUSAND CLINICIANS ARE USING THE DRUG SUCESSFULLY

    BUT NO BU BRIMBLERS BARKERS BRAYERS ARE! UH LIE

    BU BRIMBLERS BARKERS BRAYERS SHOULD ALL STICK TO WHAT THEY ARE GOOD AT AND LEFT OUT THE PHARMACOLOGY AND MICROBIOLOGY………….CAUSE WUNNA GENERALLY TALKING JUNK ALTHOUGH IT IS QUITE AMUSING AND HILARIOUS

    SINCE VINCENT LIKES PING PONG’S CUT AND PASTE RE ” chloroquine could prevent orf1ab, ORF3a, and ORF10 to attack the heme to form the porphyrin, and inhibit the binding of ORF8 and surface glycoproteins to porphyrins to a certain extent, effectively relieve the symptoms of respiratory distress, I WONDER IF HE COULD ENLIGHTEN US ON THE DEEP BIOCHEMISTRY AND CELL BIOLOGY MENTIONED .”

    WHAT ARE orf1ab, ORF3a, and ORF10,?

    HOW DOES heme form porphyrin? OR inhibit the binding of ORF8 and surface glycoproteins to porphyrins to a certain extent, AND HOW DOES THIS effectively relieve the symptoms of respiratory distress,

    PLEASE ILLUMINATE AND ILLUCIDATE CAUSE I WANT TO LEARN

    I WONT EVEN WORRY WITH THE Chartered Structural Engineer and President of Solutions Barbados WHO IS WAY WAY WAY OUT OF HIS LEAGUE HERE.

    CONTINUE ALL CAUSE I GETTING BARE SPORT LISTENING TO WUNNA IN THE RUM SHOP LOL LOL

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  • BU IS PUBLISHING EVERYBODY’S RUBBISH AND REFUSES TO PUBLISH THE POST OF A MAN WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT HE TALKING BOUT LOL

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  • @ David April 7, 2020 5:12 PM

    The only guru in science is the experimental results. This idea of the viral particles being spread by droplets is based on work done in the 1930’s as reported in one of those extract I have posted to BU. In science the experts do not like to be proven wrong. Science is really very ego-driven . .

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  • Have you seen this Video…If you Cannot Buy Hydroxychloroquine buy Schweppes Tonic Water that has ton of Hydroxychloroquine and take it with high doses of Zinc … See the recommended quantity of Schweppes and Dosage of Zinc suggested by Doctor Eric Nepute.

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  • Good, now return to eating your greasy turkey wings.

    Steuspe

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  • @Dr. Lucas

    What do you suggest the medical fraternity does, go against the establishment?

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  • GOOD! OF COURSE IT IS GOOD!
    AND ACCURATE TOO!

    JUST JOINING IN THE DISCUSSION, YOU NEVER KNOW HOW EXPRESSING YOUR VIEW MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. EVEN THOUGH THE TRUTH TENDS TO HURT

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  • This is an opinion blog, people will share opinion some right, some wrong. Do what you do best.

    Steupe

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  • @ David April 7, 2020 6:11 PM

    What I am saying is that it is the research scientists not the medical doctors one should be listening to. The research scientists are trained to do research work, most doctors know a lot about clinical symptoms( there are exception to the rule). The scientists are going to come up with new vaccines and so on. In this particular case they are already working to ascertain how the virus is spread The results seem to indicate a role for aerosols. The idea of droplets has been the Holy Grail” that is not supposed to be challenged. Science does not function that way. The more distinguished the person is pushing a line ,the harder it is for new ideas to come through.

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  • RE This is an opinion blog, people will share opinion some right, some wrong. Do what you do best.

    I ALWAYS DO!
    I STICK TO WHAT I KNOW WELL AND I SEEK TO BE ACCURATE WHEN I OPINE AS I DID ABOVE
    PEOPLE WHO RANT AND RAVE AND GIVE THEIR OPINIONS HERE THERE AND ANYWHERE OUGHT TO DO THE SAME.

    BE ACCURATE! BE TRUTHFUL! AND ACCEPT WHEN YOU ARE CORRECTED

    E.G IT IS A FACT HYDROQLOROQUINE HAS A WIDE THERAPEUTIC INDEX, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST DESIRABLE PARAMETERS OF ANY MEDICATION

    THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY CLINICIANS CAN EMPLOY IT SUCESSFULLY ALL OVER THE WORLD IN THIS PANDEMIC

    IT IS ACTING AS A “MAGIC PILL” BECAUSE IT IS HITTING THE RECEPTOR SITES OR TARGETS—-ANOTHER DESIRABLE PARAMETERS OF ANY MEDICATION

    SO MY OPINION IS UNWELCOMED BECAUSE IT IS ACCURATE AND TRUE? LOL LOL

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  • Private labs in Trinidad can start testing for COVID-19

    (Trinidad Express) Private medical labs across Trinidad and Tobago are now being encouraged to begin performing tests for the COVID-19 coronavirus.

    At a press conference in Port of Spain today, Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh said that once the CARPHA-certified labs were equipped with the PCR (polymerase chain reaction) machines, they could proceed, once validated by CARPHA.

    The PCR machine is the diagnostic tool used to detect the virus.

    Deyalsingh said these private lab tests may see a rise in the number of confirmed cases.

    He said that between TT$1,000 and TT$2.000 was being charged by one private lab to do a series of tests including for COVID-19.

    He asked that private labs price their tests reasonably.

    The Ministry of Health had held the position that private labs could not performed the tests since they were not certified by CARPHA.

    CMO Dr Roshan Parasram said previously that there had been three positive tests coming from a private that proved to be incorrect.

    Today, Parasram said that that he could not recommend a private lab to do the tests.

    A list of validated labs will be published.

    Deyalsingh said that the new regulations that came into effect today requires that the private labs, certified by CARPHA, has an obligation to report the findings of the test, be reported to the Chief Medical Officer and not the individual.

    He said that under the regulations, any lab that did not conform would be fined TT$50,000 or six months in prison.

    He said the decision as taken in order to ramp up testing, and create a national database on the virus.

    https://www.stabroeknews.com/2020/04/07/news/regional/trinidad/private-labs-in-trinidad-can-start-testing-for-covid-19/

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  • NY Emergency Medicine Physician Claims COVID-19 Is An Oxygen Deprivation Disease Not Like Pneumonia
    Published 04/05/2020

    Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell, an emergency medicine physician in Brooklyn and is affiliated with the Maimonides Medical Center, posted a very interesting video on you-tube. He is making the claim that COVID-19 is an oxygen deprivation disease , and in some cases the ventilators themselves, due to the high-pressure methods they are running, may be damaging the lungs and leading to widespread harm of patients & they should be operated in a different method. He is making the claim that COVID-19 is not a pneumonia-like disease at all.

    In his video, he goes on to warn the world that the entire approach to treating COVID-19 may be incorrect, and that the disease is something completely different what is commonly accepted.
    “In treating these patients, I have witnessed medical phenomena that just don’t make sense in the context of treating a disease that is supposed to be a viral pneumonia,” he explains.
    “When we treat people with ARDS, we typically use ventilators to treat respiratory failure. But these patients’ muscles work fine. I fear that if we are using a false paradigm to treat a new disease, then the method that we program [into] the ventilator, one based on respiratory failure as opposed to oxygen failure, that this method being widely adopted … aims to increase pressure on the lungs in order to open them up, is actually doing more harm than good, and that the pressure we are providing to lungs, we may be providing to lungs that cannot take it. And that the ARDS that we are seeing, may be nothing more than lung injury caused by the ventilator”

    He says that COVID-19 is like nothing seen before

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Doc you have returned and your attitude has not changed, atall ..what a pity.

    If you want to say that you speak accurately then pretty please don’t talk my remarks away from their context in an attempt to dismiss any relevance made…come now that’s beneath a man of your standing I would think.

    My remark was contained in ONE sentence..offering one thought …one point as a whole NOT your funny separations.

    It was very simple …the point was:… let the matter be deliberated in the patient’s room because all medicines have side effects and thus are truly never magic pills that make you well with a simple “poof” !

    Nothing original or deep there of course but you still thought it necessary to disassemble a simple remark to do your attitude thing!

    No cricket to watch one suspects…I was binging on the 2004 Champions trophy final and some other WI goodies recently!

    Thought when you came back you would be ready to save our biological souls with great details… alas not!

    Be good bro and if you can’t then just cut n paste accurately then nah!

    I gone.

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  • @Dr. Lucas

    The question to you is how do you know the spokes people are not being advised by the researchers?

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  • DR LUCAS

    RE The research scientists are trained to do research work, most doctors know a lot about clinical symptoms( there are exception to the rule).

    YOU ARE PARTIALLY CORRECT HERE FOR THE HISTORY OF MEDICINE AND ITS ADVANCEMENT IS REPLETE WITH THE DISCOVERIES OF CLINICIANS ——-ONE REASON WHY MANY DISEASES BARE THEIR NAMES… AS YOU HAVE CORRECTLY OPINED .there are exception to the rule).

    RECALL THAT VACCINES IS A RATHER RECENT THING (CERCA 1950) AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY BOTH SALK AND SABIN WERE CLINICIANS

    PLEASE KINDLY NOTE THAT MANY CLINICIANS ARE ALSO RESEARCHERS

    RECALL ALSO THAT THERAPEUTICS AS WE KNOW THEM TODAY STARTED TO COME TO THE FORE AROUND THE SAME TIME AND THAT SEVERAL CLINICIANS WERE AND CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE RESEARCH
    THEREOF.

    KEEP ON KEEPING ON SIR!

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  • DRIBBLER
    YOU MUST LEARN NOT TO PLAY AT EVERY BALL!

    WHAT I HAVE SAID ABOUT YOUR CONTRIBUTION IS ACCURATE AND IS SOUND DOCTRINE THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED

    WHAT I WROTE IN RESPONSE IS VERY SOUND BASIC PHARMACOLOGY
    WHY DONT YOU ACCEPT IT AS SUCH AND LEARN THEREFROM
    WHY NOT RESEARCH AND REPORT ON THE CONCEPT OF THERAPEUTIC INDEX…

    This continued push of the chloroquine option is rather perplexing as it’s not a magic pill
    ALL PILLS THAT WORK ARE MAGIC PILLS! EVEN ASPIRIN! ASPIRIN IS THE PROTOTYPE OF ALL NSAIDS.

    and as with all medicines it has its side effects TELL US WHAT ARE THE SIDE EFFECTS SIR

    THE FACT IS IT HAS A WIDE THERAPEUTIC INDEX…WHICH IS A FACTOR IN ITS FAVOR

    MOREOVER YOUR ” point” THAT ” because all medicines have side effects and thus are truly never magic pills that make you well with a simple “poof” IS QUITE A VERY ERRONEOUS THOUGHT

    AS A CLINICIAN I KNOW THAT TO BE FALSE FROM LONG EXPERIENCE WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THAT OR NOT

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  • DRIBBLER

    RE Thought when you came back you would be ready to save our biological souls with great details… alas not!
    PLEASE KINDLY NOTE I AM NOT JESUS!

    I CAN NOT HEAL THE SICK OR RAISE THE DEAD
    IN MY CLINICAL EXPERIENCE I COULD DO ONLY THAT WHICH WAS CURRENT THERAPY AND HOPE FOR THE BEST, AS ALL DOCTORS OUGHT

    AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY ATTITUDE——I JUST DONT SUFFER FOOLS GLADLY, AND I SPEAK PLAINLY WITHOUT MALICE.

    I JUST LIKE HOOKING CUTTING PULLING DRIVING AND GENERALLY BEATING BAD BOWLING IN THE RUM SHOP.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Ok…I should correct my self as I said ALL…should have said “most”.

    But why do YOU perceive that anyone making a point about something in your medical bailiwik is in some way attempting to dispute YOUR assertions on the science? That’s basically quite egotistical bro.

    I am making a very basic fact of medicine which is that most medicines will carry a side effect that is not beneficial to the patient ..some or most of those are mild and then some can be quite dangerous to the patient…that’s why it’s vitally important for the doc to known his/her patient’s history details to ensure said patient is not killed with the medicines given to him/her to prolong life.

    Even aspirin carries side effects as well.. so the issue was simply that the WH should not be touting …just simply highlight that promising results are being seen and move on…let the medicine and curative process proceed accordingly between doc and patient.

    That is not questioning your clinical nous bro.

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  • DRIBBLER

    I should correct my self as I said ALL…should have said “most”. NO ALL DRUGS HAVE SIDE EFFECTS
    YOUR ERROR IS THAT THEY ARE ” truly never magic pills that make you well with a simple “poof”

    I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY NEVER SEEN AMINOPHYLINE WORK AS AN EXAMPLE

    RE But why do YOU perceive that anyone making a point about something in your medical bailiwik is in some way attempting to dispute YOUR assertions on the science?
    I AM NOT PERCEIVING OR ASSUMING ANYTHING SIR
    I AM TELLING YOU THAT WHAT I SAY CAN NOT BE ACCURATELY REFUTED——-CAUSE I ENSURE THAT I AM ACCURATE WHEN PONTIFICATING IN MY AREAS OF EXPERTISE

    RE so the issue was simply that the WH should not be touting …just simply highlight that promising results are being seen and move on…
    THE WH HAS EVERY RIGHT TO PROMOTE A DRUG THAT THOUSANDS OF CLINICIANS WORLDWIDE HAVE FOUND TO BE EFFICACIOUS , I,E SINCE the medicine and curative process HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED

    RE That is not questioning your clinical nous bro.
    I SUSPECT THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW VERY WELL THAT IT WOULD BE UNWISE TO DO SO

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  • @John April 7, 2020 5:27 PM “Taiwan has few deaths, Singapore as well…Could it be that Taiwan and Singapore have a level of immunity not shared by other countries?”

    Taiwan 376 cases, 5 deaths
    Singapore 1481 cases, 6 deaths

    Since theses places were battled SARS1 it is likely that they were better prepared to fight this one as well. I

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  • David
    April 7, 2020 5:33 PM

    John go and listen to the press conference this morning.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Done that.

    What I am suggesting is the SARS-COVID-2 created an immunity in the countries it affected.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002–2004_SARS_outbreak

    It did not reach Barbados.

    There were 29 countries affected by SARS-COVID-2 during the outbreak 18 years ago.

    The major effects were felt in China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Canada and Singapore.

    Deaths so far this year vs the first SARS outbreak in these countries are as follows:

    China – 349 vs 3331

    Hong Kong – 299 vs 4

    Taiwan – 73 vs 5

    Canada – 43 vs 381

    Singapore – 33 vs 6

    Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore have not yet reached double figures.

    Is there a herd immunity in these three countries?

    How do we get a herd immunity if that is the case?

    Are we shooting ourselves in the foot?

    What happens when the next SARS-COVID-XX appears?

    I understand I am being a little radical but should we not be paying attention to Sweden?

    https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-sweden-no-lockdown-test-thousands-deaths-expected-2020-4

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  • Please note, I am not for one moment saying not to test with the object of quarantining or self isolating.

    Hong Kong and Taiwan did take precautions early.

    Hong Kong had its New Year celebrations canceled and Taiwan cut links on 23rd January with China.

    Neither one had a critical mass of humanity from which the virus could propagate.

    We are fortunate in that respect as well.

    We can track unlike New York which was confronted by a deluge of cases.

    There seems to be a link between deaths and lung damage whether by smoking, 911, coal mining, TB whatever.

    Is it older people in general or older people with lung damage who succumb?

    If it is our medical services may be spared.

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  • “The symptoms of SARS are identical to those of COVID-19”

    LOL, No quote from Rush, I thought Limbaugh said it was the common cold and it is given the number 19 because it is the 19th version

    When a coronavirus affects humans it is categorized by how it affects the respiratory tract. This one is the second one discovered that causes the disease Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS)
    The scientific name for the virus is SARS-Cov-2, the first one was SARS-Cov-1
    The WHO named the disease Covid-19 to differentiate it from the first one, that was simply called SARS
    Covid stands for Corona virus disease

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  • I am sure Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore do test and track relentlessly.

    I am sure they also have quarantining and self isolation too.

    What I am sure of too although I cannot find a reference for Singapore is that they took precautions early and prevented a mass of humanity flooding them.

    The latest time for action was the last week in January 2020.

    Taiwan took its action on January 23.

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  • when you seek to use a drug or xenobiotic one should ideally first ascertain what is its mechanism of action

    now for all the morons who are attacking DJT for promoting Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine consider its mechanism of action to see how it works

    THEN YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND WHY IT WORKS

    Mechanism of action of hydroxychloroquine

    Hydroxychloroquine increases lysosomal pH in antigen-presenting cells. In inflammatory conditions, it blocks toll-like receptors on plasmacytoid dendritic cells (PDCs).

    Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are weak bases and have a characteristic ‘deep’ volume of distribution and a half-life of around 50 days. These drugs interfere with lysosomal activity and autophagy, interact with membrane stability and alter signalling pathways and transcriptional activity, which can result in inhibition of cytokine production and modulation of certain co-stimulatory molecules. These modes of action, together with the drug’s chemical properties, might explain the clinical efficacy and well-known adverse effects (such as retinopathy) of these drugs

    Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine increase pH within intracellular vacuoles and alter processes such as protein degradation by acidic hydrolases in the lysosome, assembly of macromolecules in the endosomes, and posttranslation modification of proteins in the Golgi apparatus. It is proposed that these compounds results from their interference with “antigen processing” in macrophages and other antigen-presenting cells. Acidic cytoplasmic compartments are required for the antigenic protein to be digested and for the peptides to assemble with the alpha and beta chains of MHC class II proteins.
    As a result, they diminish the formation of peptide-MHC protein complexes required to stimulate CD4+ T cells and result in down-regulation of the immune response against autoantigenic peptides. this mechanism is well suited to complement other compounds in combination drug therapy.

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  • Coronaviruses are a family of viruses that range from the common cold to MERS coronavirus, which is Middle East Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus and SARs, Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus.

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  • I know someone who tested positive for a corona virus in the USA but it was a cold.

    That was late December or early January.

    The doctors wanted to explain the cause of a fever so wanted to eliminate flu, which they did.

    Turned out there was another cause.

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  • “now for all the morons who are attacking DJT for promoting Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine consider its mechanism of action to see how it works”

    Good info, I am sure Trump used this as his basis too.
    Instead of trying so hard to defend Trump every chance you get, just provide the facts and stop pretending you know Trumps mind.

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  • The MERS outbreak mainly affected Saudi Arabia, South Korea, UAE, Jordan and Quatar.

    This year so far, UAE has 12 deaths, Qatar has 6 deaths, Jordan has 6 and South Korea 200.

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  • Most people, including me, doubt China’s numbers.

    However, they may be explicable.

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  • OF COURSE IT IS GOOD INFO…………..AS USUAL

    NEVER SAID I KNEW TRUMPS MIND
    NOR THAT TRUMP USED THIS INFO AS A BASIS FOR ANYTHING

    BUT I AM SAYING WITH OUT FEAR OF CONTRADICTION TO ALL morons who are attacking DJT for promoting Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine WHEREVER AND WHOEVER THEY ARE TO consider its mechanism of action to see how AND WHY it works

    IF ALL KINDS OF SCUM HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE CAN ATTACK TRUMP EVERY CHANCE THEY GET WHY CANT I DEFEND HIM WHEN HE IS DOING THE RIGHT THING, AND WHEN I CHOSE TO

    WHO MADE YOU A RULER OVER ME TO SUGGEST WHAT I CAN AND SHOULD DO?

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  • Gosh, you suffer from a serious persecution complex, you should get that checked out.

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  • ONE OTHER THING
    LOTS OF DUMMIES HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE ARE CLAMORING TALKING BOUT CLINICAL TRIALS

    WHY DO CLINICAL TRIALS ON A DRUG DEMONSTRATED TO HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD FOR DECADES?

    MOREOVER HAVE THESE MORONS REALIZED TO DO NORMAL CLINICAL TRIALS IN THIS SITUATION IS TOTALLY UNETHICAL?!

    HOW CAN YOU IN YOUR RIGHT MIND GIVE A PLACEBO TO A PERSON WHO YOU KNOW IS INFECTED AND GIVE THE EFFICACIOUS DRUG TO ANOTHER PERSON?

    HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHICH ONE SHOULD GET THE EFFICACIOUS DRUG?

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  • RE
    Gosh, you suffer from a serious persecution complex, you should get that checked out.

    ONCE MORE
    WHO MADE YOU A RULER OVER ME TO SUGGEST WHAT I CAN AND SHOULD DO?

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  • Here is a person who died from complications due to Corona Virus.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/john-prine-who-chronicled-the-human-condition-in-song-dies-at-73/ar-BB12ibT0?ocid=spartandhp

    “Mr. Prine underwent cancer surgery in 1998 to remove a tumor in his neck identified as squamous cell cancer, which had damaged his vocal cords. In 2013, he had part of one lung removed to treat lung cancer.”

    In the case of my first cousin, his lungs were damaged at ground zero/911.

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  • Both were old and both had lung function impairment.

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  • @ GP April 7, 2020 10:19 PM
    “ONE OTHER THING
    LOTS OF DUMMIES HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE ARE CLAMORING TALKING BOUT CLINICAL TRIALS
    WHY DO CLINICAL TRIALS ON A DRUG DEMONSTRATED TO HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD FOR DECADES?
    MOREOVER HAVE THESE MORONS REALIZED TO DO NORMAL CLINICAL TRIALS IN THIS SITUATION IS TOTALLY UNETHICAL?!
    HOW CAN YOU IN YOUR RIGHT MIND GIVE A PLACEBO TO A PERSON WHO YOU KNOW IS INFECTED AND GIVE THE EFFICACIOUS DRUG TO ANOTHER PERSON?
    HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHICH ONE SHOULD GET THE EFFICACIOUS DRUG?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How about contracting the services of the pharmaceutical kingpin Johnson & Johnson to try out the drug on Boris J in the UK?

    Why are you promoting the use of a drug made by ‘man’ instead of recommending the power of pray to ‘fight’ this modern-day plague called Covid?

    Aren’t you concerned about the efficacy of that drug given the high probability that the scientists behind its artificial concoction are people who do not give two neutrons about your fairy tale god called Yahweh or his make-believe crucified son?

    Why not take a medical leaf out of the religious book of the mythological Israelites when they were in captivity in Egypt during the Age of the Ram and the angel of death ‘Passed’ over using the blood of the sacrificed lamb as the sign of the cross of salvation?

    Why not advise people to seek protection and salvation from Covid by praying to Yahweh through his only begotten son representing the Age of the two Fishes?

    Why can’t he send one of his angels to deal with this coward Covid the new kid on the block of plagues as he plays the bully only putting down the weak and vulnerable?

    Where is young king David when the Israelites need him most to slay this man-made goliath of a global giant of plagues called Covid?

    Isn’t Yahweh no longer that omnipotent and omniscient in these dying days of the fisher of men?

    Even the Christians and their competitors in the Abrahamic branch of the business of religion have smelled the rat of decay in ‘blind’ faith in Yahweh and have jumped into the chartered boat of information technology called SS Internet setting sail to the dawn of a New Age not dominated by false gods and pseudo scientists pretending to be GP(s).

    “Natural forces within us are the true healers of disease.” ~ Hippocrates

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  • Srinivasa Ramanujan you have a poor indian boy that upset the apple cart of mathematics solving problems that were thought unsolvable with a new approach. Why cant some of these combinations of drugs work….. because trump said they might……. I would rather take a chance on any treatment to let me see my kids one more time .

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  • LAWSON

    IF YOU CHECK AND UNDERSTAND THE MECHANISM OF ACTION OF HYDROCHOROQUINE THAT I POSTED YOU WILL SEE WHY IT IS SUCESSFUL IN HANDLING THE INFLAMMATORY RESPONSE.
    I AM AMAZED AT HOW SUITABLE IT IS IN THIS INDICATION BASED ON ITS MECHANISM OF ACTION

    IN ADDITION IT HAS
    A WIDE THERAPEUTIC INDEX, AND
    A LONG HALF LIFE

    IT IS AN EXCELLENT CHOICE, FOR THIS INDICATION!

    THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE BIVALENT ATOM ZINC—-WHICH IS OF COURSE A COFACTOR IN ENZYME ACTIVITY, WHERE IT ACTS AS A STABILIZER, AND “ENABLER”

    (THINK GETTING TWO FELLAS TO HOLD DOWN ANOTHER FELLA SO THAT YOU COULD PUT SOME WARM LASHES ON HIM)

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  • I am sure you know medicine in the US has strict protocols in place for just about every medical condition. With malpractice being a big business hospital administrators are rightfully cautious. Clinical trials or a nationally established protocol are the only ways to use the drug and not risk a lawsuit if something goes wrong. Because medicine is a business first, no hospital administrator is going to expose his institution to that risk, even if it means saving lives, unless he has the legal protection a clinical trial provides. You obviously know this but prefer to insult and belittle others ……..grow up

    https://rebelem.com/rebel-covid19/

    There is a link to those actually on the front lines
    One ICU doctor asked to be reassigned because the current hospital protocol in his experience was doing more harm than good.

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  • DEMOCRATIC STATE LAWMAKER SAYS TRUMP TOUTING HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AS CORONAVIRUS TREATMENT SAVED HER LIFE

    Rep. Whitsett directly credits the president for her recovery

    State Rep. Karen Whitsett says that she likely would not have received the drug had the president not publicized it so greatly.

    “It has a lot to do with the president … bringing it up,” Whitsett said to the Detroit Free Press. “He is the only person who has the power to make it a priority.”

    Whitsett said she sought treatment on March 18 and began taking hydroxychloroquine on March 31.

    “It was less than two hours” before the drug began to relieve her of the symptoms from coronavirus, which included shortness of breath and swollen lymph nodes. She also felt as if she had a sinus infection and a headache.

    Whitsett tested positive for coronavirus on Monday.

    She said that she believes the president saved her life. “I do thank him for that,” she added.

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/hydroxychloroquine-whitsett-72.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=300

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  • Redguard
    April 8, 2020 9:05 AM

    I am sure you know medicine in the US has strict protocols in place for just about every medical condition

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Dead people don’t often sue.

    People who get life are too joyous to contemplate it.

    Then there is the Right to Try Act.

    https://www.fda.gov/patients/learn-about-expanded-access-and-other-treatment-options/right-try

    Thank Trump.

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  • In the case of my cousin,

    “The Daily News reported that family members were told two days prior to his death that doctors at Mt. Sinai South Nassau Medical Center could not honor their request that he be given the experimental drug Remdesivir because he was also suffering from renal failure.”

    Kidney failure usually means death.

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  • Go look see!!

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  • Despite all the rubbish you have written above, the facts are that HYDROCHOROQUINE is being used in many hospitals and clinics in the USA TODAY!

    THE FDA HAS QUICKLY APPROVED ITS USE AS COMMANDED!

    THE VERY FACT THAT THE DRUG IS BEING USED IS IN EFFECT A CLINICAL TRIAL EVEN IF NOT RANDOMIZED AND DOUBLE BLIND………..IT WOULD BE MOST UNETHICAL TO CONDUCT SUCH RANDOMIZED AND DOUBLE BLIND…TRIALS IN THE FACE OF SO RAVAGING A DISEASE.

    WHEN TRIALS ARE CONDUCTED IN A SITUATION AS PERTAINS TODAY, THEY ARE AND MUST BE QUICKLY TERMINATED!

    YOU ARE A MEDICAL ILLITERATE WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE GROUND IN THE USA, AND YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CONCEPTS IN PHARMACOLOGY WHICH I HAVE MENTIONED, OR THE PRACTICE OF THE SAME

    THE DRUG IS BEING USED AND HAS BEEN CLAMORED FOR IN CERTAIN STATES BY THEIR GOVERNORS AND MAYORS ETC WHO HAVE REVERSED THEIR INITIAL MORONIC ATTITUDES

    DOCTORS ARE USING THE DRUG IN THE USA. BECAUSE THE FDA HAS APPROVED IT

    SEVERAL TOP NOTCH PHYSICIANS ARE DAILY REPORTING THEIR EMPIRICAL FINDINGS

    YOU ARE WRONG AND STRONG TOO

    YOU COME WITH ONE SILLY LINK AS IF THAT IS THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST

    MEDICINE AND PHARMACOLOGY IS A PRACTICAL THING H

    THERE ARE DOCTORS MONITORING REPORTS OF THE USE OF THE DRUG AS IS USED ALL OVER THE WORLD AND THE USA MUST GET IN STEP

    RE One ICU doctor asked to be reassigned because the current hospital protocol in his experience was doing more harm than good.

    SO WHAT? THEY LETTING MED STUDENTS OUT EARLY TO JOIN THE FRAY
    HE CAN AND WILL EASILY BE REPLACED!

    BYE IT IS MORONS LIKE YOU THAT LEADS ME TO STAY IN MY CORNER AND JUST ROCK AND MOCK

    I DONT HAVE THE TIME TO LISTEN TO FOLK OF YOUR ILK SEEKING TO CONTRADICT ME WHEN I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, AND KNOW IT WELL!

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  • JOHN

    RE doctors at Mt. Sinai South Nassau Medical Center could not honor their request that he be given the experimental drug Remdesivir because he was also suffering from renal failure.”

    THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE!

    IF A DRUG IS EXCRETED MAINLY VIA THE KIDNEYS IT IS NOT GIVEN TO A PATIENT IN RENAL FAILURE

    IF A DRUG IS EXCRETED MAINLY VIA THE LIVER IT IS NOT GIVEN TO A PATIENT IN HEPATIC FAILURE

    EXHIBITION OF DRUGS IS NOT ONLY ABOUT SCIENCE IT IS AN ART, AND REQUIRES THE JUDGEMENT OF THE ATTENDING CLINICIAN……..NOT THE BARKING BRAYING AND BRIMBLING OF BU PHARMACOLOGY ILLITERATI, SUCH AS WE HAVE HERE IN NUMBERS

    THEY DO NOT KNOW AND THEY WILL NOT BE TAUGHT

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  • JOHN

    RE Then there is the Right to Try Act.

    https://www.fda.gov/patients/learn-about-expanded-access-and-other-treatment-options/right-try

    Thank Trump.

    AGAIN YOU ARE CORRECT!
    TRUMP PASSED THIS ACT AND IT NOW IS IN VOGUE!

    I TRIED TO EXPLAIN BY GIVING THE MECHANISM OF ACTION OF HYDROCHOROQUINE AND SOME OF ITS INTRINSIC USEFUL PARAMETERS

    WITH A LONG HALF LIFE OF 50 HOURS, THIS PERMITS A REDUCED NUMBER OF DOSES
    IT HAS A WIDE THERAPEUTIC INDEX. THIS MEANS THAT THE RANGE OF THE AMOUNT GIVEN IS NOT A GREAT PROBLEM. ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AS CONSCIOUS ABOUT THE DOSE YOU GIVE

    CONTRAST THIS WITH SAY DIGITALIS WHICH HAS TO BE TITRATED IN EACH PATIENT BECAUSE, THE THERAPEUTIC INDEX IS SO NARROW, THAT OFTEN TIMES THE “NORMAL” DOSE IS LETHAL FOR SOME PATIENTS.

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  • I TRIED TO EXPLAIN HOW ZINC AND OTHER BIVALENT ATOMS ARE USED AS COFACTORS TO CERTAIN ENZYMES BY HOLDING SUBSTRATES IN POSITION SO THAT THE ENZYME CAN ONLY ATTACK AT THE RECEPTOR SITE

    IT IS A WASTE OF TIME TO COME HERE TO TEACH ANYTHING

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  • Because you have a few commentaters who may disagree with ypu it means what again?

    What about the many more who read and take heed?

    What about the commenters who agree with you?

    You are attracted to distractors onl;y?

    Grow man if that is even possible.

    #steuspe

    >

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  • JOHN

    HALF LIFE IS 50 DAYS NOT 50 HOURS
    THIS ALLOWS THERAPEUTIC LEVELS TO BE ACHIEVED AND MAINTAINED WITH FEWER DOSES BECAUSE A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF THE DRUG IS MAINTAINED IN THE BODY

    NOTE These drugs interfere with lysosomal activity and autophagy, interact with membrane stability and alter signalling pathways and transcriptional activity, which can result in inhibition of cytokine production and modulation of certain co-stimulatory molecules…… LIKE THE WHITE BLOOD CELLS

    .THIS IS HOW IT REDUCES THE CYTOKINE STORM THAT IS CAUSING MOST OF THE TROUBLE IN THIS DISEASE DUE TO THE EXCESSIVE INFLAMMATORY RESPONSE MOUNTED BY THE VIRUS

    ONE HAS TO TIP THE HAT OF THE DOCTORS/RESEARCHERS WHO PROPOSE THE USE OF THIS DRUG ON THE BASIS OF THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF HOW IT WORKS IN AUTO IMMUNE DISEASES FOR WHICH IT IS INDICATED.

    GOOD JUDGEMENT AND ARTISTRY!

    SPOT ON AS HAL WOULD SAY

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  • RE Because you have a few commentaters who may disagree with ypu it means what again?

    I WILL NOT TOLERATE JACK ASSES CONTRADICTING ME
    I WORK TOO HARD TO BE CORRECT
    I HAVE NO TIME FOR FOOLS!

    I AM ACCUSTOMED TO DEALING WITH SERIOUS FOLK WHO ANSWER THE HARD QUESTIONS OF THEIR COLLEAGUES CORRECTLY BEFORE YOU CAN BLINK TWICE
    THEY ASK PROPER AND RELEVANT QUESTIONS

    WHEN THEY SEEK TO CONTRADICT THEY DO SO BY REFERRING TO KNOWN FACTS AND PRINCIPALS

    THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GROWTH
    I AM ME AND I DONT PLAN TO CHANGE!

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  • Who is disputing your right to clarify comments posted? We all do it from time to time. Do you project blanket the blog with the f*ck**g label?

    For an intelligent man you purport to be, in many ways you are childlike. Continue smartly.

    #Steupse

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  • YOU DONT TELL BULL SHITTERS TO SHUT UP WHEN THEY ARE CLEARLY WRONG BUT YOU WANT TO TELL ME TO GROW UP!

    IS IT THAT YOU DONT KNOW THAT THE BULL SHITTERS ARE EFFLUXING OR IS IT THAT YOU DONT APPRECIATE MY INPUT AND DONT RESPECT ME WHICH?

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  • There will always be bushitters, there will always be people who whether through being ignorant or pursuing an agenda will disagree. Then they are people who will agree with you, they are intelligent people who will see the value in your contributions. What should you do? You stay on the path that facilitates enlightenment for those who want it.

    YOU DO NOT READ BLOGMASTER’S COMMENTS EVERY DAY ON THE BLOG DEALING WITH A FEW DULLARDS?

    Life is not perfect.

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  • RE For an intelligent man you purport to be, in many ways you are childlike. Continue smartly.

    OK BYE BACK TO KIDDIE CORNER

    I DONT NEED THESE INSULTS OR THE CURSING — NOT ACCUSTOMED TO THAT EITHER

    INSTEAD OF #Steupse YOU SHOULD BE SAYING THANKS

    CAUSE THEIR HAS NOT BEEN A LOT OF REAL GOOD INFO GIVEN HERE OVER THE PAST MONTHS ON THIS TOPIC— JUST LOTS OF EMOTIONS AND FEAR

    I AGREE THAT VERY VERY FEW ARE CAPABLE

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Doc, respectfully but you certainly have that hubris problem often associated with highly intelligent people….. The Blogmaster may have steeuspsed in frustration but he ALSO clearly said: What about the many more who read and take heed?…What about the commenters who agree with you?

    So why indeed do you focus on the negatives?… Surely you accept that you have a polarizing personality here… you are the SAME man who unprovoked by Pres Obama himself called him “shit**” and other personal vitriol that was heinous, despicable and totally uncalled for.

    Thus YOU senor should be one of the LAST people on this God’s earth to cry victimization..because … well you act the part of the bully with vigour.

    You clearly have cultivated your edge to others – and quite harshly so – but others must treat YOU with respect at all times!…. Bro HOW DOES THAT WORK!

    Looka if in this time of great distress you are going to cry ‘this is my ball’ with that talent the Lord blessed upon you and which you developed and nurtured and NOT spread your wisdom for those of us who can and want to use it then so be it…

    But for heaveans sake stop this puerile nonsense about being insulted and cussed and playing your dual personality games…. Educate us who seek go be … or just STEP off !

    Commenters will ease up on you…the minute you ease up on those you don’t like. Yah think!

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Correction…Educate us who seek it … or just STEP off !

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  • Review of the pkgs via social media platforms

    Here we go
    Name with held to protect the innocent

    As a popular entertainer usually say I maybe wrong and i usually am so I write subject to corrections.

    I don’t want to stir up trouble or seem to be doing such.
    I ain’t telling nobody what suit or is good for them,or how to spend their dollars and cents.

    Yuh see this bag of groceries hell to the no for me. Let me pack my own bag even if it’s via social media etc. Baring in mind not everybody has access to such or technology savvy.
    I know Government is trying hard to minimise public gatherings etc and encourage social distancing etc. But take a good look at the picture items in the bags,there have vegetables,what appears to be cheese,fruits, milk,bread but yet when you read the content list none of these are included this is very misleading.
    So none of these items in the picture are essential?
    Not even piece of meat,what about good cocoa,etc. Some people can’t use Colgate toothpaste I am one and I know others that can’t either that’s the only toothpaste included. There are people on diets etc,how many of these items listed does the average poor man buy?
    Lots of these items are the products that tend to remain longer on the shelves due to the fact nobody buys them as first choice or options. Brands we never heard of,but yet our Government via the acting PM in a manner I don’t like is telling us yuh poor go there purchase the items whether you like or does use the items already packaged or not just pay your money,take the items,shut yuh mout and move on at least that’s how some of it was coming over to me.

    I know we can’t be too pickey but people spending they money tho the bag of groceries aren’t free,if there were then we can’t complain but there are being purchased.
    It’s not like Barbados in the throes of a world war.

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  • re you are the SAME man who unprovoked by Pres Obama himself called him “shit**” and other personal vitriol that was heinous, despicable and totally uncalled for.

    HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHITBAMA DID TO ME AND OTHERS?

    TRUMP HAS NOT DONE YOU OR THOSE OF YOUR ILK HERE ANYTHING BUT DONT YOU ESPECIALLY AND OTHERS ENGAGE IN personal vitriol that was heinous, despicable and totally uncalled for. FROM THE BEGINNING

    RE Educate us who seek it … or just STEP off !

    WHAT YOU MEAN IS DOC “STOP THROWING YOUR PEARLS TO THE SWINE”

    I CAN DO THAT MAN NO PROBLEM

    WUNNAH VEXED CAUSE I SHOW WUNNA THAT TRUMP WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE DRUG AND WHY

    I DONT HAVE TO EDUCATE A SOUL HERE I CAN EASY TALK RUBBISH LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AND JUST ROCK AND MOCK

    WHEN I TEACH I DO SO AS I LIKE IN MY STYLE AND ON MY TERMS……….BUT DAMN ACCURATE!

    AFTER THE STELLAR TEACHING PUT DOWN HERE THIS MORNING WHAT DO I GET BUT INSULTS AND BULL SHIT

    NONE OF WUNNA CANT REFUTE ANYTHING I HAVE SAID TODAY TRUTHFULLY OR ACCURATELY
    SO WUNNA HAVE TO REVERT TO AD HOMINEMS

    ARE YOU HAPPY NOW THAT YOU HAVE HAD YOUR SAY?

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  • @ GP April 8, 2020 9:50 AM

    Your explanation of the reaction mechanisms is beyond the scope of many here on BU.

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  • HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE RATED ‘MOST EFFECTIVE’ CORONAVIRUS TREATMENT, POLL OF DOCTORS FINDS

    An international poll of thousands of doctors rated the Trump-touted anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine the best treatment for the novel coronavirus.

    Of the 2,171 physicians surveyed, 37 percent rated hydroxychloroquine the “most effective therapy” for combating the potentially deadly illness, according to the results released Thursday.

    The survey, conducted by the global health care polling company Sermo, also found that 23 percent of medical professionals had prescribed the drug in the US — far less than other countries.

    “Outside the US, hydroxychloroquine was equally used for diagnosed patients with mild to severe symptoms whereas in the US it was most commonly used for high risk diagnosed patients,” the survey found.

    The medicine was most widely used in Spain, where 72 percent of physicians said they had prescribed it.

    During the survey, a total of 6,227 physicians were questioned in 30 countries about at least 15 treatments used for COVID-19.

    Of the 2,171 doctors asked which drug is most effective, 37 said hydroxychloroquine. By contrast, 32 percent answered “nothing.”

    A debate about hydroxychloroquine was sparked two weeks ago after President Trump touted the drug as a possible “game-changer” in the fight against the COVID-19 pandemic, prompting critics to accuse him of peddling unproven, untested remedies.

    To date, “there is no evidence” that any medicine “can prevent or cure the disease,” according to the World Health Organization.

    But Sermo CEO Peter Kirk called the polling results a “treasure trove of global insights for policymakers.”

    “Physicians should have more of a voice in how we deal with this pandemic and be able to quickly share information with one another and the world,” he said in a press release.

    The 30 countries where doctors were surveyed included Europe, South America and Australia — and no incentives were provided to participate, the company said.

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/hydroxychloroquine.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=300

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  • GP.April 8, 2020 1:24 PM

    I am shocked that Cuomo, Pelosi and Mayor of NYC are trying to blame Trump. Aren’t these the same persons who accused Trump as being racist after he banned flights from China ? Didn’t these same persons say that COVID-19 was a minor problem and that people should continue to mingle? I noticed that Schiff and Pelosi are talking about an inquiry into the handling of COVID-19. These idiots dropped the ball with COVID-19,when they engaged in the fruitless impeachment episode. Schiff is the head of the House Intelligence and he paid no attention to intelligence reports. The man should face jail time

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  • ROBERT

    Cuomo,Schiff Pelosi and Mayor of NYC ARE A SET OF IGNORANT INCOMPETENT IDIOTIC IMBECILES
    AND THEY ARE HYPOCRITES!

    I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND HOW A SET OF FOLK COULD BE SO CONSISTENTLY AND CALLOUSLY EVIL

    I AM ENTERTAINED BY THE WAY TRUMP JUST DEFEATS AND OUTSMARTS THEM AT EVERY TURN

    RE Your explanation of the reaction mechanisms is beyond the scope of many here on BU.

    WHEREAS THAT MAY BE TRUE THEY HAVE THE GALL TO CONTRADICT ME, WHEN THEY KNOW THAT I AM USUALLY ACCURATE ON BASIC SCIENCES HERE SINCE 2008 WHEN I FIRST POSTED ON STATIN DRUGS

    ALSO IF ANY UNDERSTAND, THEY CANT ACCEPT THAT TRUMP COULD POSSIBLY BE RIGHT

    HE NEEDS TO STOP FUNDING WHO

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  • I would recommend malaria drugs for only those who are critical, dying or near death. I was healthy and fit. My Doctor prescribed the drug with least side effects. Let me tell you, for those four weeks in Asia, it was no picnic. I was supposed to take it until a week after i returned. The moment I set foot back in Canada I stopped and told my Doctor why. For the first time she did not argue. I have wanted to go to Africa but she said I would have to take them again. Apparently the meningitis vaccine for Asia is not the same for Africa either, different strains.

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  • @Robert Lucas

    Timeline of Recent Trump COVID-19 Quotes

    QUOTE} January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

    February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

    February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

    February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”

    February 25: “I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”

    February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”

    February 26: “We’re going very substantially down, not up.”

    February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

    February 28: “We’re ordering a lot of supplies. We’re ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn’t be ordering unless it was something like this. But we’re ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”

    March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don’t think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”

    March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”

    March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”

    March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”

    March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”

    March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”

    March 6: Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”

    March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”

    March 6: “I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn’t our fault.”

    March 7: “We’ll hold tremendous rallies…I’m not concerned at all.”

    March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on coronavirus.”

    March 9: “This blindsided the world.”

    March 10: “Our Coronavirus Team has been doing a great job. Even Democrat governors have been VERY complimentary!”

    March 11: “I am fully prepared to use the full power of the Federal Government to deal with our current challenge of the Coronavirus!”

    March 12: “108 countries are dealing with the Coronavirus problem, some of which we are helping!”

    March 13: “To this point, and because we have had a very strong border policy, we have had 40 deaths related to Coronavirus. If we had weak or open borders, that number would be many times higher!”

    March 13: “Today I am declaring a national emergency. Two very big words.”

    March 17: “I’ve always known this is a pandemic. I’ve felt that it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic … I’ve always viewed it as serious.” [UNQUOTE

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  • @ Robert Lucas

    and in Dec 2019 or early January on the campaign trail he referred to COVID 19- “is their [Democratic] new hoax

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  • RE HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE RATED ‘MOST EFFECTIVE’ CORONAVIRUS TREATMENT, POLL OF DOCTORS FINDS

    An international poll of thousands of doctors rated the Trump-touted anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine the best treatment for the novel coronavirus.

    NOT SURPRISED AT ALL!

    WHY?

    MECHANISM OF ACTION
    HALF LIFE
    WIDE THERAPEUTIC INDEX
    EFFECT SEEN IN A FEW HOURS

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  • quote ] A hospital in France has had to stop an experimental treatment using hydroxychloroquine on at least one coronavirus patient after it became a “major risk” to their cardiac health.

    The University Hospital Center of Nice (CHU de Nice) is one of many hospitals trialing hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19 patients. It announced it had been selected for the trial on March 22. A statement from the hospital said it was testing four experimental treatments, one of which included hydroxychloroquine. It hoped to establish its effectiveness and side effects of this and the other treatments being tested.

    In an interview with the French daily newspaper Nice-Matin, Professor Émile Ferrari, the head of the cardiology department at the Pasteur hospital in Nice, said the side effects had already been identified, with some patients having to stop treatment because of the risk posed.

    https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-france-heart-cardiac-1496810

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  • @ Greene April 8, 2020 2:36 PM

    There is a saying action speaks louder than words. He acted on 31ist.January two days after the Navarro warning and was called a racist when he banned flights from China..it was openly stated that COVID-19 was no threat by Cuomo. Pelosi and de Blasio. People were encouraged to mingle. Even when Trump tried to quarantine NY and else where the ACLU among others challenged the legality of the move. Indeed Cuomo was on TV saying that he did not understood what Trump meant. As head of the House intelligence ,Schiff dropped the ball being more interested in the made-up claims for impeachment. He ignored the job he elected to do. He should placed against a wall and summarily shot as the treacherous felon he is.The vile hypocrites.

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  • There has been a call ( V.O.B) for Barbadians who arrived from the UK and USA between 15-22 March ,to phone in and state their health status. It would seem that the local authorities have dropped the ball. To deny that there has been community spread seems some what wishful thinking now.

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  • GREENE
    YOUR POST AT April 8, 2020 5:06 PM REVEALS THAT YOU ARE A JACKASS OF THE HIGHEST ORDER AND A PHARMACOLOGICAL ILLITERATE!

    HEAR YOU QUOTE
    A hospital in France has had to stop an experimental treatment using hydroxychloroquine on at least one coronavirus patient after it became a “major risk” to their cardiac health.

    HAVE YOU HEARD OF PHARMACOGENETICS OR DRUG IDIOSYNCRASIES?
    WHY IS IT THAT NOT ALL PATIENTS WHO USE THE DRUG HAVE RISKS TO THEIR CARDIAC HEALTH?

    Professor Émile Ferrari, the head of the cardiology department at the Pasteur hospital in Nice, IS REPORTING SOMETHING THAT IS SEEN IN ALL DRUGS INCLUDING ASPIRIN AND PANADOL…….A BET YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT DUMMY?

    WHY DONT WE TREAT ALL DIABETICS OR HYPERTENSIVES WITH THE SAME REGIME?
    HAVE YOU HEARD OF HORSES FOR COURSES OR JACKASSES FOR THEIR OWN PASTURE?

    BU IS NOT THE LANCET BUT PHARMACOGENETICS HAS BEEN PRESENTED ON BU IN GREAT DETAIL ALREADY. GO READ IT.

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  • “WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE GROUND IN THE USA”,

    The same could be said of you, not so. Have you treated a patient with COVID-19. NO!!!!!!
    Can you refute malpractice being a major concern in the US. NO!!

    AND YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CONCEPTS IN PHARMACOLOGY WHICH I HAVE MENTIONED, OR THE PRACTICE OF THE SAME
    Never questioned the pharmacology that you learnt by rote, or pulled from a book, next time post the author you plagarised. Better yet write a book since you are so great.

    Again grow up, no one is questioning your knowledge (or the book you pulled it from)

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  • A DUMMY COMES TO BU PRANCING UP AND SAYING

    A hospital in France has had to stop an experimental treatment using hydroxychloroquine on at least one coronavirus patient after it became a “major risk” to their cardiac health.

    HE DOES NOT KNOW THAT SUCH OCCURRENCES IS SEEN IN MANY DRUGS ON A DAILY BASIS
    IN FACT MANY DRUGS HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED ALL TOGETHER AND HAVE BECOME OBSOLETE AND HAVE BEEN SUPERCEEDED

    hydroxychloroquine HAS BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 5O YEARS !

    LEARN SOMETHING TODAY DUMB DUMB

    BASIC AIM OF THERAPEUTICS

    RIGHT DRUG FOR RIGHT PATIENT IN RIGHT DOSE FOR RIGHT INDICATION

    BEATING UP PUN DUMMIES ON BU IS REALLY SWEET!

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  • Would someone please tell me when Cuomo, Pelosi, De Blasio or Schiff were elected President? President Harry Truman had a sign on his desk reading “The Buck stops here”. It seems for Trump and his supporters the Buck stops everywhere except at Trump’s Office.

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  • Readers may find the extract below of interest.

    A ‘wolf in sheep’s clothing’: Scientists unravel the disguise that lets the coronavirus hide from the human immune system – sparking hope of a vaccine
    Sugar molecules on the surface of the virus allow it to sneak past defences
    Researchers have mapped these for the first time to reveal its exact structure
    Found SARS-Cov-2 is not as heavily disguised as other viruses, such as HIV
    Understanding its structure can help speed up the process of making a vaccine
    By JOE PINKSTONE FOR MAILONLINE

    PUBLISHED: 10:43 BST, 8 April 2020 | UPDATED: 13:13 BST, 8 April 2020
    The SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus causing the global pandemic has been revealed in fresh detail in a bid to learn more about its structure and help develop a vaccine.

    A 3D model created at the University of Southampton unmasks the virus’s disguise which it uses to hide from the human immune system.

    It is the first model to show the protein spikes on the virus surface which are prime targets for antibodies and vaccine research.

    Sugars on the surface allow it to sneak into the body undetected and behave ‘like a wolf in sheep’s clothing’, the researchers say.

    The team, led by Professor Max Crispin, say the model will provide ‘crucial and encouraging’ information for scientists creating a vaccine.

    Professor Crispin says Sars-CoV-2 has a large number of spikes sticking out of its surface which it uses to attach to and enter cells in the human body.

    These spikes are coated in sugars, known as glycans, which disguise their viral proteins and help them evade the body’s immune system.

    The research has been published online on pre-print sire bioRxiv and not a journal yet as it has not been peer-reviewed, the process in which research is scrutinised by other academics.

    Professor Crispin said: ‘By coating themselves in sugars, viruses are like a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    ‘But one of the key findings of our study is that despite how many sugars there are, this coronavirus is not as highly shielded as some other viruses.

    ‘Viruses like HIV, which hang around in one host, have to evade the immune system constantly and they have a really dense coat of glycans as a shield to the immune system.

    ‘But in the case of the coronavirus the lower shielding by sugars attached to it may reflect that it is a “hit and run” virus, moving from one person to the next.

    ‘However, the lower glycan density means there are fewer obstacles for the immune system to neutralise the virus with antibodies. So this is a very encouraging message for vaccine development.’

    The research was carried out using equipment previously provided by a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation through the Collaboration for AIDS Vaccine Discovery.

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