Solutions Barbados COVID-19 Survival Plan

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Submitted by Grenville Phillips II,

I did not know what to make of last night’s [1 April 2020] announcement. We continue to treat this COVID-19 as a political exercise. However, it seems to have finally dawned on someone that their political games will have fatal consequences.

Last night, the Government finally admitted what was obvious to everyone. They stated: “We therefore need to formulate a plan of survival for Barbados!”
We ought to remember that the Government noted that they made a plan with all political parties, unions and the merchants. However, they specifically excluded Solutions Barbados and the UPP – for purely political reasons.
After developing an ineffective political plan with their supporters, we tried to provide them with our best advice. They either rejected or ignored our advice, so we advised the public on how they could prepare for COVID-19.
We advised the Government to effectively close Barbados to normal business, and our borders to visitors. We recommended that this be done on Wednesday 25 March 2020, when the trend of exponential growth was evident. We now know that our COVID-19 cases were growing exponentially at an out-of-control rate of 3 days at that time.
The Government rejected our advice, and allowed out-of-control exponential growth for a further 4 days. But their political efforts were ineffective, since the shut-down was partial and our borders remained open. Persons entering were not tested for the virus, instead, they were given an ineffective temperature reading.
The Government continued to reject or ignore our advice, and allowed the COVID-19 cases to grow at the same exponential rate for a further 4 days, before finally appearing to be serious last night. Now that they are looking for a plan, we suggest the following.
SUGGESTIONS FOR AN EFFECTIVE SURVIVAL PLAN
First, stop the inflow of cases by closing our borders to people. The Government’s problem is that this goes against the WHO recommendation. Many critical WHO recommendations on COVID-19 have been proven wrong. We should not be guinea pigs as the WHO is learning on-the-job. Therefore, look out for the health interests of Barbadians and close our borders now.
Second, shut down Barbados for two weeks. Everyone except those working in thread-bare essential services should stay home for 2 weeks. This is what was finally announced today (9 days late).
Third, effectively enforce the shut-down. This has yet to be done. Even our youth know that it is a joke, or a game like ‘tag’.
Four, order the Abbott tester (see link below), which can give test results in 5 minutes, and start meaningful testing. Normally, this would not have been a problem – we could simply have asked the US Ambassador for a few machines. However, we have muddied the waters.
We have publicly tried to embarrass US Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, when he visited the Caribbean. CBC-TV also tries to find the most embarrassing stories about US President Trump (including from the anti-US Islamic station, Al Jazeera), which they air, every night, during the 7:00 pm news.
These reckless actions risk harming us all, when we need to call on our proven friends for assistance. They also make requesting assistance embarrassing, given our past behaviour. However, we should swallow our pride and do what is necessary for Barbados.
After the two-week shut down, when the internal transmission rates are known and are under control, we can re-open our borders. Then we can test every visitor to Barbados – before they leave the arrivals hall.
Five, start including the many highly qualified Barbadians who are willing to help, rather than just the BLP faithful. There are so many examples I could cite, but I will include one.
Harrison Point’s buildings were built over 60 years ago. It is very easy to mistakenly use current construction materials, that can react badly with old construction. Renovating such buildings requires specialist engineering advice to avoid foreseen high maintenance issues.
We made a $30M error by demolishing the 6-storey NIS building (which we could have used now), apparently because someone did not understand construction methods in the 1970s. To prevent a similar blunder, I offered an unlimited supply of free specialist engineering advice.
A truly national plan would accept such an offer – but they rejected it. If they continue to only listen to their most partisan political supporters, then the only plan that they can develop is another political plan.
Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer and President of Solutions Barbados. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

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  • @ Grenville

    well you tried. but MAM got this.

    i said here that we should have gone from Stage 1 to Stage 3, especially after we learnt and saw how the virus was devastating Italy and after i learnt that Govt brought back bajan students from China and allowed Chinese working in Bim to return and asked them to self isolate. what a joke. they should have been quarantined to ensure no community spread.

    David and others tried to argue i was wrong and govt was following WHO’s recommendation. maybe so but one must pivot when circumstances demand it, and circumstances did at that stage. now we are in hurry up / panic mode. i wish Bim well but we were ill served.

    NB- i have no issues with Bim accepting the 35 stranded Trinies

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  • @greene

    Where is the evidence that any country is wrong? In a few months a more accurate assessment can be made.

    We are all nothing more than armchair critics.

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  • I am curious: The article is written as though the author and his cohorts are authorities in the fields. The authorities haven’t done a bad job given the constraints the country faces in terms of the economy. As I have said, the problem is one of containment. This is particularly so,when there are unknown carriers(people who unwittingly are exposed to those who show no signs of the disease and then ,themselves come down ill). This would have happened regardless to whether or not closed borders were instituted. At some point the infection would have reached Barbados. There are two choices: one test all Barbadians. The cost and availability of the test kits are also a major problem. Major industrialized countries are themselves having problems getting hold of the test kits. The proposed curfew as an alternative is the only choice left. By instituting the curfew, if it is rigorously enforced, hot spots of infections can readily be identified , isolated and treated. The hot spots would indicate the sites were the unknown carriers are. One criticism I have and that is the curfew should be extended for at least twenty-eight days. The reason for saying so, is the fact that there will be variability in the incubation period of the virus by individuals

    Why jump to the conclusion that the failure invite the writer was based on political consideration?

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  • I wrote previously suggesting that the borders be closed. That did not happen for a number of reasons. The solution now is to get fully behind the authorities and hope that the containment efforts succeed. Recriminations at this time are pointless.

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  • The task is to find who has been infected with covid 19 and isolate them quickly so that no one else is exposed. In Asian countries you can expect to have your temperature taken numerous times and if it is elevated you will not be allowed to go home. Your family will be notified that they need to self isolate for 14 days. You will be isolated and tested until it is proven that you are not contagious. Since massive testing is not an option, isolating people who may have been exposed is critical. Also they are finding out that covering our face helps by keeping our germs from infecting other people that are in close proximity.

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  • Wrong David , if a country did nothing and now takes a course it can be cited as slow to react , incompetent maybe but when a country takes a position then has to make a 180 degree turn then they were wrong. Canada has had an open door policy till march 18 or so we followed WHO advice in jan when they were putting out bs in jan. now our travel is restricted too late I cant visit my kids or friends because of Waru;s putz who put political correctness over common sense. Now his wife has gone to the cottage on the Quebec side to be out of harm as the rest of us are told don’t go to your cottages and stay out of Quebec, you cant make this shit up.He was on tv yesterday telling Canadians how its their fault for not isolating that this problem has come about nothing he did LOL so yes David you can be wrong. I wonder who is gonna come out of their hole first Justin or Mia.

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  • @ David

    you learn from others mistakes and what others are facing.

    italy showed how devastating this virus can be and we should have pivoted to stage 3 bypassing stage 2. instead we steadfastly stuck to the WHO plan, allowing community spread and only moved to stage 3 when we realized we had lost containment.

    nonsense. plans have contingency pans. remember stage 3 required a certain amount of confirmed cases and we moved to that stage 1 short. if we could do that then we could have moved to stage 3 from stage 1 when we learnt that people were not self isolating. we would have been 2 weeks ahead of the game.

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  • Someone please explain how 45 infected people who present a high risk of infecting an entire population of 300 hundred thousand people can be considered a good job
    But then again Trump thinks that 100hundred thousand deaths in New York is the equivalent of doing a good job

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  • Dont even try explaing the basics of containing the virus at the early stages to blp supporters
    Let them suffer under 24hr house arrest
    Just maybe they would understand the meaning of Prevention better than cure
    Only a jac.a.ss would ignore the warning signs coming from those countries that were and still is devastated by the virus
    Asinine to keep the borders open and allow free movement of the virus from infected people
    But then again the bottom line has spoken louder than the interest of the people
    Go figure

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  • When the news started to break that a sinister virus was stalking a region in China, I recommended that we blocked entry to Chinese nationals. Shortly after making that announcement I stated that Barbados should go into an immediate lock down: nothing in and nothing out!

    My reasoning was based on the reality that an impoverished and indebted island – which Barbados is – lacked the infrastructure and the resources to defend itself for one day; yet alone one week.

    I argued that we should have ignored the advise of the W.H.O. We witnessed this murderous virus cutting a swathe through many countries. Our response was to wait for the 24/25th affected person, in accordance with the W.H.O., prior to taking action. Too bloody late!

    So like sheep we bleat about testing the whole population knowing full well that this is beyond the realms of highly developed countries such as the UK.

    We know who the sinners are who have probably brought destruction to this country. It is a minority of individuals who kept the door opened in order that their businessess were not impacted. I hope that the majority of Barbados in time to come would have taken note.

    I also hope that Mia will in time distance herself from these individuals.

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  • A mountain out of a molehill.

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  • You are aware the majority of cases are bajans returning from New York?

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  • if@ TLSN

    But things have been going from bad to worse. First, the chief medical officer, Mr George, has not been heard of recently. Anyone knows what happened to him? Then the president went off at this crucial time for a ‘medical procedure’, leaving us to imagine if it was an urgent matter.
    Then we got the curfew, when that did not work we got the attorney general expanding on it; when that did not work we got the acting prime minister extending the curfew in to a lockdown. Then, within hours, they were fine tuning that lockdown.
    In the meantime, a sociologist, with experience of Ebola (what kind of experience, was he a victim?) was appointed coronavirus Czar; but a fully qualified and experience epidemiologist at the UWI was largely ignored.
    In the meantime we are told that UWI staff made a contribution to the model the government is working from. Who at UWI worked on this model? And what does the model say?
    Some of us are concerned about the food crisis following, but food stores (supermarkets) are closed. How are hungry people going to feed themselves? They cannot even buy rum to drown their sorrows. Why?
    Confusion, bad (and absent) political leadership, a lack of professional guidance, all these and more while the nation faces the worst pandemic in its history.
    This from the best leader in the country, a woman who punches above her weight, who is world class.

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  • shoulda woulda coulda…..but I can and I will

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  • Ok . the excuse being that the black bajans are responsible for bringing the virus to the barbados therefore the ports should be opened
    So now does that mean that govt late measures should be excused
    Really.
    Well i dont think so.
    What i understand that the political battle for the mind on this issue will be real and deceptive

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  • Here we go again.

    First of all a public announcement was made that former chief medical officers acting was sent on leave. Secondly the PM stated she was advised to do a medical procedure which was successful and she is happily recuperating. This has not prevented her from participating in ministerial meetings via ZOOM. You are a piece of work

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  • Occasionally I have to break my vow of avoiding your stupidity to disavow you of thinking you are smart. Mr George has gone on leave. What does that mean?
    The president had a medical procedure. What is that? We were told by the acting prime minister that she took part in a meeting, which I am sure is true. What citizens want to know is how is she recuperating and what was wrong? How serious was her medical procedure. She is paid by taxpayers so taxpayers ought to be told.
    Name a single leader in the civilised world that was on sick leave and a full explanation was not given to the people.

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  • Hope Jong “got this”

    Zoom apologies for major security vulnerabilities, promises fixes

    https://www.techradar.com/news/zoom-could-be-stealing-your-windows-password-hacking-your-webcam

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  • It is none of your damn business. It is her judgement to make. Maybe it was her fibroids, or her ‘womb’ was removed. If it is not dehablitating how is it your business? If it was life threatening another conversation but it will her judgement to make. In Barbados there is no precedent to how we manage health issues for leaders i.e. to bear their souls to the public. It is a judgement thing, it is not right or wrong thing r 3, 2020

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  • CORONA CRISIS AND THE CONCENTRATION OF CONTROL?

    THINGS TO PONDER:

    The Russian dictator Joseph Stalin stated: “Crisis alone permitted the authorities to demand – and obtain – total submission and all necessary sacrifices from its citizens.”

    Machiavelli stated: “Politics have no relation to morals.”

    Fidel Castro, the leader of Communist Cuba, explained: “The revolution needs the enemy … The revolution needs for its development its antithesis’ … And if enemies were lacking, they had to be fabricated.”

    There is a tactic called “gaining the moral high ground,” where those concentrating power need the public to perceive them as having superior altruistic motives, while at the same time, they must portray anyone voicing concern over potential unconstitutional power grabs as having irresponsible, selfish motives. Healthcare crises can be particularly opportune times to demand citizens give up rights, as anyone voicing concern can be maligned as uncaring.

    The CDC estimates that in the United States, there are 30,000 flu-related deaths annually.

    HIV/AIDS Pandemic (2005-2012) Death Toll: 36 million. Cause: HIV/AIDS

    Flu Pandemic (1968) Death Toll: 1 million. Cause: Influenza

    Asian Flu (1956-1958) Death Toll: 2 million. Cause: Influenza

    Flu Pandemic (1918) Death Toll: 20 -50 million. Cause: Influenza

    Sixth Cholera Pandemic (1910-1911) Death Toll: 800,000+ Cause: Cholera

    Flu Pandemic (1889-1890) Death Toll: 1 million. Cause: Influenza

    Third Cholera Pandemic (1852–1860) Death Toll: 1 million Cause: Cholera

    The Black Death (1346-1353) Death Toll: 75 – 200 million. Cause: Bubonic Plague

    Plague of Justinian (541-542) Death Toll: 25 million. Cause: Bubonic Plague

    Antonine Plague (165 AD) Death Toll: 5 million. Cause: Unknown

    COVID-19 DEATHS LESS THAN 50,000 WORLDWIDE AS OF 2ND APRIL 2020, OUT OF 7.5 BILLION PEOPLE.

    IT IS ESTIMATED THAT FORTY TWO MILLION CHILDREN ARE KILLED EACH YEAR WORLDWIDE BY ABORTION. HOW MANY ARE KILLED IN BARBADOS?

    We Are Pretty Much At This Point, How Many Emergencies Are Left Until All Freedoms Are Eroded?!

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  • David BU why do you bother with this knowall Austin? The guy is a joker.He is in England where they have all kind of problems with this virus.Let him tell us what they are doind to sucessfully combat the virus tbere.You told him that Dr George is on leave he pretends he is a retard and does not understand what that means.He wants to knoe what wad Ms Mottley,s medical problem why ? What is that to do with you?As stated before when your bright hero Mr Tho.mpson was ill flying in and out on clico,s private jet most bajans did not know what his illness was for months and i did not hear you calling for disclosure.Austin you are a disrespectful hyprocrite and the blogmaster should not tolerate it.

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  • William Skinner

    “However, we have muddied the waters.
    We have publicly tried to embarrass US Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, when he visited the Caribbean. CBC-TV also tries to find the most embarrassing stories about US President Trump (including from the anti-US Islamic station, Al Jazeera), which they air, every night, during the 7:00 pm news.
    These reckless actions risk harming us all, when we need to call on our proven friends for assistance. They also make requesting assistance embarrassing, given our past behaviour. However, we should swallow our pride and do what is necessary for Barbados.”
    I have refrained from submitting any thing on BU in relation to the Corona virus. I plainly stated before that this is a time for us all to support our government as it grapples with this pandemic. I will continue to refrain from the debate on BU and continue to support the government in all its efforts.
    However I am very offended by the above statement. To suggest that by refusing to attend a meeting with some US government official has “muddied” waters and we must now grovel to get assistance is an insult to our statehood and sovereignty. To even write such nonsense demonstrates that even in a national crisis some of us cannot dig deep enough to understand what real nationalism means. A shame on you Mr. Phillips.
    I will continue my position of giving our government continued support as it grapples with this unprecedented crisis which is not of our making.

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  • Having read the above comment
    I would continue to support Trump in this time of global crisis as he grapples with the Corona virus
    Oh dear

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  • The pictures of long lines wrapping around streets from one end to other tells the real story of govt not putting forethought in good planning before implementing this measures
    Why couldnt there be time periods given to the old for doing their shopping
    It is truly heart breaking to see an old lady in her nineties about the 200hunderth person in line waiting her turn to get into the supermarkets to buy groceries
    Yet this govt speaks about humanity
    Where is the humanity can somebody please show or explain
    Govt said they met with the private sector in planning sections
    Well i must be fooled after seeing so many of the old standing in the hot sun for hours waiting their turn for shopping

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, your remarks “Where is the evidence that any country is wrong? In a few months a more accurate assessment can be made….We are all nothing more than armchair critics.”… simply takes EVERYTHING taught in management/decision making and calls it nonsense… you are VERY wrong bro.

    Blogger @Lawson captures it well with when a country takes a position then has to make a 180 degree turn then they were wrong

    When @Greene highlighted his remark about moving directly to Stage 3 several days ago… it had already been well chronicled on these pages that Bdos’ claims of positives tests made ABSOLUTELY no logical sense… @PLT has been shouting until blue in his face about the need for more tests …others too said that and showing the illogic (with facts) of the administration’s incongruous policy.

    No sir… several here were NOT just armchairs critics… they were practical, reasoned and deliberate on their premisses.

    As I understand decision making you are WRONG if a subsequent review of the data (of what was fully known at THE time) shows that your actions differently taken would have created different and better results or as @Lawson suggests you make a decision NOW that is informed from no more data than what was known previously.

    This is not about recriminations, as we all want the best for our nation…but we CANNOT give the govt any degree of comfort in thinking they are on top of things otherwise they will blunder through this going forward…

    This question has been asked by @Hants REPEATEDLY…how in heavens name do you decide in week 5 or whatever that 34 positives signals a crisis point when since week 2 or 3 you CLEARLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY saw that your trend line of tests done vrs positives had established that dangerous correlation and moreso you had the evidence of its validity from several other nations!

    David that was the height of utter madness…and here we are now.

    Bdos authorities like many other nations plucked up this covid19 response but we are a gnat with gnat size resources.. to survive we HAVE to punch above our size using COMMONSENSE, LOGIC AND SOLID REASONING … this was BS plain and simple.

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  • I was reading this until the sucking up to the US government started. Was in St Croix last year, a US colony in the Caribbean, and people still hadn’t had their roofs replaced since the 2017 hurricanes. Stop looking up to Massa so much. We’re supposed to be an independent country. Criticise the government’s handling of the situation if you like but at least have some self respect and dignity. If the US don’t want to give us two testing kits unless we get involved in their efforts to enslave people in the region, then we should tell them to keep their kits. They are not the only country in the world with kits.

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  • U know i have a lot of respect for Hal not because he might give me Thumbs up on my comments
    Because he is an elderly person who have done extensive travels and have gathered his knowledge not only by book learning but throughout the many experiences gained by interacting with all kinds of people all over the world
    His opinion in my view is not based on small minded thinking but one cannot argue that most of the things he opinion comes through world experiences throughout his life
    I have no doubt that when he asked question pertaining to Mia health it is not out of malice but one borne out of a thought that being the head of govt her every move should be accountable and transparent to the people
    She was hired by the people and therefore the people are her employer and she the employee
    Therefore she gets no privileged past on any account

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  • Granville point is simply don’t bite the hand u look towards that feed u
    Mia utterances at the time towards the USA secretary was wrong and demeaning
    Granville point that there are times in life when it is better to bite tongue than to cut the whole tongue off
    Some times rather than seeing a lesson to be learned
    We jump to conclusions which are hardened by political way of thinking

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  • Barbados is witnessing panic buying.

    How could this have been avoided?

    The government has repeatedly warned that Barbadians have been flouting health protocols.What went wrong?

    There is an expectation that the government with a bevy of PR people should be doing the best job.

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  • “We jump to conclusions which are hardened by political way of thinking.”

    Hmmmmmmm…..

    Spot on. You are correct.

    So, are we wrong to assume it is not upon this basis that you structure ALL your comments to BU?

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    The government’s rollout of the 24 hour curfew and supermarket shutdown raises existential questions for Barbadians.

    Is this a sht show, or merely a cluster fck? These distinctions are more than academic.

    I invite the political poultry from both sides of the cart road to weigh in… Mariposa? Enuff?

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  • the govt backtracking on the opening of supermarkets caused this. coupled with bajan lastminuteness. it is that simply. supermarkets with social distance enforced should have been exempted. who are the risk managers advising govt. i am v disappointed

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  • Mari

    do you know that an employee does not have to expain a healt issue to their employers?

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  • @ Mariposa

    An employee does not have to explain to an HR department their medical condition, but they have to to the company’s doctor. Doctor to doctor is part of the confidentiality.
    On the other matter, I find it strange that the chief medical officer was removed from his position (sacked or sent on gardening leave) in the middle of the biggest crisis ever to hit Barbados, a medical crisis.
    Yet, Bajan curiosity is such that the voices on BU, the media, opposition politicians and patients’ groups do not want to know why he has been replaced. I am sure his lawyers are going through the fine print as we write..

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  • A MUST WATCH….

    THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF FRENZIED COVID MEDIA PROPAGANDA …TO WHAT END ONE MIGHT ASK???

    MORE GOOD NEWS? CITIZEN REPORTERS GO & DO WHAT THE MEDIA WON’T!

    THIS SHOULD MAKE YOUR BLOOD BOIL…

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, you asked “Barbados is witnessing panic buying. How could this have been avoided? The government has repeatedly warned that Barbadians have been flouting health protocols.What went wrong? There is an expectation that the government with a bevy of PR people should be doing the best job.”

    Is it about public relations or properly setting guidelines…. Last week I spoke to some folks at home and apart from my railing and theirs on the slow pace to a full shut down they were keen on getting groceries bought, regularizing family life and basically preparing for THIS.

    A teacher, a business manager and yes even a PR exec they were.

    They understood intuitively that the govt was going to pull stumps on play after that Mottley speech …that was on 3/26. On 3/28 the night curfew started.

    Are you telling us @David that just 3 -4 later this government abruptly determined that things had changed so drastically or is it that it’s just a bad PR presentation!

    Or should I ask what did they review on Monday 3/23 or the week prior that informed the 3/26 speech and what have they seen since to push this more stringent action!

    I dont know what’s going on Mr Blogmaster but I am shocked at the time line of what appears to be either poorly informed leaders or very ‘scared’ leaders.

    This is not what one expects of the intelligent men and women of cabinet and our civil service!

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  • Peter yes a f.uked up
    I have been saying that govt have been implementing fast tracked policies without giving them real thought
    I have made mention of the elderly and i remember u giving your two cents worth of excuses
    But looking at those long lines and the time line giving for the curfew to begin one cant help to think that headless chickens are at the wheel of govt
    How in Gods name would govt not have expected panic buying giving the short time for shopping line and the time curfew begins
    Madness
    Don’t blame the people blame govt.
    Next on the agenda would be ever one falling over each other to catch the last bus leaving town before the curfew starts
    What a ting doah

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  • Hal doesn’t an employee have to present a medical certificate or return to work to the employer or give a doctor’s reason for taking time off the job

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  • anyone here that ever worked in Barbados that ever had to provide the detail of a medical problem to a company’s doctor please raise your hands.

    however the part about doc to doc confidentiality proves the the donkey brayeth yet again.

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  • Handing out masks at the supermarket entrances, and requiring that everyone that enters wears a mask will greatly reduce the risk of infection from the symptomatic and asymptomatic carriers that will inevitably be numbered within the crowds. The surgical mask will prevent droplets and aerosols from an infected person spreading around the enclosed space and exposing others. An N95 mask (likely unavailable right now ) will give an even better protection to the wearer if others around are not wearing the surgical masks.
    If you doubt this see https://www.peakprosperity.com/how-well-beat-the-coronavirus/

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  • @ Mariposa

    Yes. That is why police sick out. In fact, in the UK some companies send officials to your home to make sure you are well. In fact, not only as a one off, but if you go sick too often they can send you to the company doctor. Big companies have staff nurses, usually the first stop.
    If a member of staff told me they were sick and wanted to go off, I first sent them to the nurse. I am sure civil servants in Barbados get 21 days uncertificated sick leave. A scandal.

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  • mari

    a doctor certificate does not usually go into detail of the person illness.

    Ex it will say I was under doc care for a week. It does not have to say I went through a hernia operation if I don’t want that information to be revealed.

    here in the usa it is even illegal for my superiors to even ask me for any detail of my reported illness. the cannot even ask me why I called out sick (just saying)

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ DpD

    In their positions ,what would you have done differently that would would have yielded a different outcome? At the risk of getting cussed, do you have a blue print of the process that managing this unprecedented event would take? We are all in no man’s land here, brother.

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  • VC
    give them two notice. And at he end the supermarket shelves would be emptied and bajan late shopper still in line outside but this time a lot more carriers of the virus would be around all of Barbados.

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  • A prize awaits anyone who can supply a photo of a Parliamentary rep or their immediate family in one of those Supermarket lines

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  • mari

    you see the difference?

    I can go to work, report I am sick and leave. if I worked 2 hrs before leaving then the adition 6 is taken from my leave. No one can aske me the nature of my illness because it is personal and none of their business.

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  • I can even file a complaint against my employers/superiors (supervisors) if any of them question me as to the nature of my illness.

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  • John2 what if you are piloting a plane to the UK, does that 2hr thing still apply

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  • I hope it don’t got to this point but be prepared barbados

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/act-though-going-lot-longer-093031383.html

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  • Lawson

    I am not a pilot and am not aware of their conditions of work.

    For SAFTEY reasons FAA rules may be totally different.

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  • flying a plain to England

    there are other pilots for if its an emergency case and I don’t think they would dock a pilot leave in that case.
    if its not an emergency then why would a pilot want to report sick (and have his leave dock if that the case) when the planes mostly fly on auto pilot?

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  • They keep saying from 5:00PM today……. but this extracted from GIS: (is it 5:00PM or 6:00PM???)

    NOW THEREFORE by virtue of the power and the authority in me
    vested and on the advice of the Chief Medical Officer aforesaid I do hereby
    issue the following directive.
    (1) A curfew is hereby imposed throughout Barbados from the 3rd
    April, 2020 to midnight on 14th April, 2020 between the hours of
    6:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. on the following day.

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  • @David “You are aware the majority of cases are bajans returning from New York?”.

    When this broke in NY, the island should have been shut down for the very same reason. Trinidad closed there’s, and if Barbados would have done it sooner those seniors wouldn’t have been a problem. But, it all goes back to the quick buck, and greed by the government, merchants, and airlines, etc. So now the government has to take the hit for its lack of government and the drastic measures that now face the island. Just look at the lines at the supermarkets, you think that Covid-19 can’r be passed easily there.

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  • John2 it was a joke John don’t over think it

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  • John2

    Since u got all the answers why don’t u advice the braying govt donkeys that created the supermarket mess that it is time they get there act together and stop making the poor and vulnerable having to make unconscionable sacrifices
    The people have been asked since May2018 to make all kinds of sacrifices
    Now today April 3 2020 the sacrifices being made by the people are overbearing and spiteful all because of govt hardline mistake akin to genocide
    People standing in the long lines in the hot broiling sun trying to buy food in less than twelve hours is inexcusable
    Some body needs to be lock up for this crime against the humanity of the bajan people
    My God

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  • Where is the responsibility of individuals to stand 6 feet from the person in front?

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  • What all are witnessing is fuel throw on a raging fire all because of govt not having vision oversight to see that a tsunami of biblical proportions was heading their way
    Some body ought to be locked up

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  • @ David.

    Alot of the panic buying today came from the fact that the acting PM said one thing Wednesday night and the opposite Thursday at midday. People therefore with a lack of clearly defined leadership will go into panic mode. This is nothing I did not expect after her midday announcement. I can also tell you that many of the people waiting to go into supermarkets will not get in them today, based on the time now and the lines outside. I can say that having not long passed Massy Holetown. Then what will happen you think?

    Many of those who get in will not have gas to cook with either as most of the sellers on the west and north are out of bottled gas already.

    All this could have been avoided if a proper plan was in place and adhered to but instead we now have this chaos.

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  • @John A

    That said what does that have to do with an individual being responsible for their health by observing social distancing?

    >

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  • Did the acting prime minister clear her speech on Wed with the president? If so, did the president approve the speech? Are there any plans for a food shortage?
    We cannot blame the acting prime minister, she was only fronting for the Cabinet. We are all in this together.

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  • MARI

    John2
    March 26, 2020 9:10 PM

    It needs to go on full lockdown

    XXXXXXXXXXX

    Everyone got their own opinion/ reasons when the shut down should have started.
    None of us are advisors to the government. Although I would have shut it down a lot sooner I do acknowledge that government is taking their advice from mainly their medicals advisors.

    How come you are not one that out there in the broiling sun?

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Vincent, I must respectfully disagree. There is ALWAYS a blueprint for crisis management. Every govt should have them…let me go way left field to make the general point and then I’ll come back.

    Do you think that the Adams govt had a specific ‘blue print’ on action to repel Sydney Burnett-Alleyne or rather a military crisis plan re internal possible insurrection with possible outside help which they would have adapted and modified with speed to deal with that threat which ended in Martinique!

    This I would be shocked to know that Ministry of Health (Cabinet) did not have a blueprint of some form laying out a crisis response for a major health related event…and because of the threats from Ebola and H1N1 I anticipate the modelling could have bnee based on a respiratory contagion type virus.

    I can only make that supposition…based on practical, sensible governance expectations !

    Now you asked directly:“… do you have a blue print of the process that managing this unprecedented event would take? We are all in no man’s land here, brother.”

    We have exhausted many words on this topic in recent days so I am going to be very brief…

    First up, “no man’s lands” is what I interpret as that place of strange desolation where you are totally unfamiliar and cant get your bearings!

    But if you are in a strange place but you can look beyond the unfamiliar surroundings and identify key celestial bearings from the star or far away see outcroppings which help you establish key points of reference then that no man’s land is in fact not quite as desolate as first appears.

    Barbados had numerous bearings that were quite visible from NY and Italy to name two, which could have very purposefully informed their predicament…that coupled with those mandatory crisis blueprints should have guided them differently in my opinion. Simple.

    I would have been stringent at cabinet were I an adviser or Minister. I would have asked the PM the same simple question: ‘if we have done 340 test and have 34 positives should we not be concerned that if we do 600 test by tomorrow that we will have 60 positives… Madame PM we have a NY sized problem on our hand and we don’t have that NY size resource pool…let’s move now’!

    Anyhow, we all in this together..so what’s done, is done. I gone.

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  • Two months ago i planned my shopping also bought adequate amounts of water
    Did not wait for govt to plan my life
    No i am not sharing my water or food supply with govt
    Stop begging

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  • The government’s rollout of the 24 hour curfew and supermarket shutdown raises existential questions for Barbadians.
    Is this a sht show, or merely a cluster fck? These distinctions are more than academic.
    I invite the political poultry from both sides of the cart road to weigh in… Mariposa? Enuff?

    Brilliantly said! @plt

    What a farce this. How can the govt give 24 hours notice and expect panicked crowds to social distance at the supermarkets?

    Is anyone in the govt thinking these issues through?

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  • Once again Hal Austin is shown up as uninformed. A former investigative journalist that can’t investigate. Bajans can continue to blame everyone else for their actions. Why would I, having been bombarded with all matters about COVID-19, go and congregate cheek by jowl in a mass gathering to last minute buy food? My cupboard would gotta be empty for me to see those lines yet gather. Farms open, fish markets open, village shops and minimarts open but we gone to buy wuh from the Populars etc? Bajans really ain’t serious. Look at how the UK and US governments fuck up their responses but the likes of Hal and the other know-it-alls in the diaspora don’t seem to be lining up outside Tesco, Walmart or any mart.

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  • David 3, 2020 12:25 PM

    Where is the responsibility of individuals to stand 6 feet from the person in front?

    Xxxxxxccccccccvvcv

    Are u serious do u know what fear does to the human mind
    Just think for a minute having so much going on in the mind having to deal with long lines in the hot broiling sun
    Your one focus is looking for a cool place.not standing out further in sunlight
    It is time govt issue a longer time period before curfew time gets shorter and the people start to rebel

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  • Are we as a nation world class? punching above our weight? Best political leader in the world? Or grossly incompetent?

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  • Is the UK? Look hush do! Still awaiting the themes of your numerous theses given your all encompassing expertise.🤣🤣

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  • not begging

    my point is that you are not relying on government. for once I give u kudos.
    Donna did the same.
    SW always prepared so she don’t have to make a move.

    From time I hear first case in Barbados I told the wife what to do.

    Now I know everyone don’t have the resources to do like you but I will bet you a lot of those out there in the sun no could have been home doing something else if they had prepared early instead of waiting government.

    it is ok to blame gov but the individuals got to use their heads heads too

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  • @Enuff

    so it has nothing to do with Acting MAM announcing that the supermarkets will be opened during the lockdown and the next day saying they will be closed? man guh way wid yuh nonsense, do!!!!

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  • How did this government manage to cock this up when they were being warned and warned.

    The supermarkets are now a disaster zone and nighmare for everyone, just because they did not want to hear and believe they know it all.

    Why are the supermarkets not being allowed to deliver…thousands cannot get in to stock up on food supplies…a total disaster which can lead to starvation..

    from one cockup to the next…watch muh nuh..

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  • Enuff
    April 3, 2020 12:54 PM

    Once again Hal Austin is shown up as uninformed. A former investigative journalist that can’t investigate. Bajans can continue to blame everyone else for their actions. Why would I, having been bombarded with all matters about COVID-19, go and congregate cheek by jowl in a mass gathering to last minute buy food?

    ????????????

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  • Watch Venezuela!!

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  • Bill Withers & Jose Feliciano 1973

    Sad to see another from those days passing on – I was at Mona Campus in 1973 when this was recorded

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  • Wonder how many of those standing in the long lines voted for this govt
    My advice to them is to get it right next time
    Also must tell them wuh sweeten goat mout bound to burn the belly

    Now a message to govt they need to revised their 10 lost years slogan
    To one day plus two weeks of impending hell for the People

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  • Planned your shopping where? In Barbados?

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  • DavidApril 3, 2020 1:13 PM

    Planned your shopping where? In Barbados?

    What difference does it make
    Didnt wait for headless 26marching band to show me direction

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  • @Enuff
    Bajans really ain’t serious
    +++++++++++++
    These are the same Bajans that voted for your Gov’t, maybe they followed the Gov’ts instructions and refrained from hoarding. Looka I know that in your eyes the Gov’t can do no wrong, but a change in direction about shopping in 6 working hours? Now you defend the Gov’t with “I’m alright Jack” attitude.

    You are right Bajans aint serious if they were serious they would be rioting.

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  • That above video shows the end result of uncaring govt who from day i put the interest of the people last
    What a dam shame

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  • “Our response was to wait for the 24/25th affected person, in accordance with the W.H.O., prior to taking action. Too bloody late!”

    That is crap, many islands like St. Lucia, St. Kitts, Grenada etc only needed ONE INFECTION TO LOCK DOWN and they too followed WHO notifications nd guidelines…this government is lying, they could have locked down earlier and did not need 25 infections first, that was their delaying tactic and it BACKFIRED, it was greed kept them open, now they will feel the consequences.

    Lawson…that is why it’s you locked in up there with Justin..

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  • I would close the supermarket – NOW.

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  • more changes coming from Acting MAM. Where is the real MAM when yuh dont need her? lol

    will the Actors get it right?

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  • MARI

    30 – 0 AGAIN ! DEM aint getting one seat.

    you think the people aint know that if DEM did in power thing would have been a lot worse?

    one thing for sure – u harping bout closing the border early – DEM did gne keep them opened just like the Bees did.

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  • JOHN2April 3, 2020 1:28 PM

    I would close the supermarket – NOW.i

    Yuh mean after hours of standing in the hot sun
    Close the doors in the people face
    Yuh crazy
    It is not as if some of these people have adequate transportation to take them back and forth
    As long there is no major threat to cause violence let the scence play out

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  • Why are we in the midst of a pandemic promoting political rhetoric?

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  • The CZAR of COVID 19 just declared that the model in use projects 100s of deaths.

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  • The 5 p.m. curfew announced for today has been extended to 8 p.m.

    Acting Prime Minister Santia Bradshaw made this announcement moments ago on Down To Brasstacks after consultation with Attorney General Dale Marshall and stakeholders.

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  • mari

    public health reasons. I would shut them down IMMEDIATELY NOW!!!

    I HAVE SEEN SOME IN THE HOTSUN AT A JOB FAIR.

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  • Who is speaking to the nation? The Czar, a non-medical and non scientist; the acting prime minister; or the attorney general? WSe want a single voice.

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  • Barbadians are generally happy with the proactive interaction by government ministers. Each person are in a position to bring relevant information and perspectives.

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  • Greene
    Your head either hard, you on an agenda or both. We are dealing with a pandemic that is characterised by constant change, this is not for example a hurricane that you can say is 100miles of Bdos moving at xmiles. All yuh behaving like it is only in Bdos the response to the pandemic is constantly changing. You and your ilk can continue to look fuh stripes but I don’t have time for igrunce. Why you ain’t down in the line at Popular?

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  • Heard 6 more people have tge virus
    At this rate the health system would become overburden
    How did we get here
    This is very serious as crunch time approaches and the numbers become frightening
    Pray for the country
    Leadership is what is needed

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  • Disorganisation, chaos, incompetence. Is this world class and punching above our weight? It is a disgrace. Flamboyant speeches, waffling on for three hours, are no solutions. Details, dear boy, details.
    We need firm authoritative leadership. Leadership is not about speeches. The nation is like a rudderless ship. Cometh the hour, cometh the (wo)man.

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  • “Why you ain’t down in the line at Popular?”

    You may not like the man, but don’t ask him to commit suicide…

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  • @ Hants

    Keep listening before then they might change their mind again. As I said before they are like a sailboat in high wind. I have to say how they handled this last chapter has left much to be desired.

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  • The government DID NOT TAKE THE INFECTIONS SERIOUSLY…so the people did not either and this is the result…plus people had to wait to get paid the measly wages the shitehound employers in Barbados pay…..and the government knows all of this, yet there they are playing with people’s lives…despite all the multimillion dollar taxpayer paid consultants.

    what a cockup of gigantic proportions…

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  • Don’t mind FOWL Enuff…the other islands did not have all this confusion, there were some hiccups but not fights and cussing and such large gatherings because the PM or her sidekick decided to up the ante and create goddamn confusion.

    As long as they know it REFLECTS ON THE GOVERNMENT AND NOT THE PEOPLE….everyone is watching

    this was badly handled from DAY 1…amateur hour…

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