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One thing this blogmaster knows from reading evaluations about the 2008 global economic crisis, it rubbished classical economic explanations. In fact the crisis served to popularized behavioural economics which is described as “an important link between economic and psychological sciences in the analysis of individual decisions especially combining psychological assumptions with economic decision-making analyzes, draws attention with its approach to the 2008 global crisis“. In simple terms the classical economic approach assumes individuals will be rational and consumed with self in decision making. Injecting behavioural economic considers psychological factors that serve to motivate people, force attitudes and create expectations.  Using the theory of behavioural economics the conclusion was made that the 2008 global meltdown was more than a financial crisis, it was a crisis of confidence.

In recent years both political and NGO talking heads have been trotting out the message Barbadians should save in the credit unions because the movement is seen as more supportive to empowering Black and working class people based on its philosophy. They should challenge a risk averse mindset and use the billions in savings lodged in the banks to invest or buy equity stakes in businesses. In recent weeks the government has indicated a special arrangement will be established to attract citizen investment in renewable energy program. The government is on a mission to persuade risk averse Barbadians to INVEST.

There is an interesting inference to the 2008 global financial crisis and the austerity period Barbados has been navigating for the last eleven years. Although acknowledged  there was a financial meltdown in 2008 in the USA – bear in mind the Barbados dollar is forever pegged to the US dollar – Barbadians ignored the failing economic indicators and maintained a lifestyle not reflective of the harsh economic environment. The irrational behaviour by Barbadians- including the government- has been responsible for the current perilous state of the economy.

In the book Stolen: How to save the world from fictionalization  by Grace Blakeley, she wrote, “when people are uncertain about the future, they may behave in ways that seem irrational – for example, saving when they will receive little return for doing so, or spending far above what they can afford. This is because in the context of uncertainty, people prefer to hold liquid (easy-to-sell) assets – and they tend to prefer to hold the most liquid asset of all: CASH (blogmaster’s emphasis). Liquidity preference means that, the higher the levels of uncertainty, the more people save rather than spend“.

The same is true about business behaviour and how investment decisions are taken. Blakeley states, “this kind of uncertainty marks business’ behaviour even more than consumers’ and affects their investment decisions. If businesses’ confidence about the future turns, they are likely to stop investing. These lower levels of investment will result in lower revenues for suppliers, who may have to lay people off, who will reduce their spending, leading to a fall in economic activity“.

The point to be made is that it is not enough to expect Barbadians will behave rationally by answering the call to invest, there are underlying psychological reasons to consider. How does a government committed to transforming the way we do business understand the psychological factors at play in Barbados? Has this government with a bevy of communications people on payroll developed a strategy to counter the underlying psychological factors? So much learning from the 2008 meltdown but have we learned anything?

 

 

 


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222 responses to “You Asking Me to Invest?”

  1. SirFuzzy (Former Sheep) Avatar
    SirFuzzy (Former Sheep)

    Honestly, we have learned very little. A man with the proverbial and possibly actual “two cents” will find it hard to invest when the noises made by the “belly” and the other noises made by the arrival utility or hire purchase bill or other cost is considered deafening. The sneaky hinge gets the most attention.

    Investments can or up or go down. For the larger part investments made in the central bank etc and to a lower degree the commercial bank has gone down. The cost of living here in Barbados has not gone down by any measure. For many, the reality is bleaker than before, and money under the bed is more of a guarantee than ever before. commercial banks are charging you for every possible thing, soon maybe they will manufacture a way of charging you “rent” for just entering the branch.

    Given the above you are correct. it is not just a rational decision persons are making. many factors are involved; such as job security, age of children, education gained & being pursued, income, personal age, health and opportunity surely factor in this decision process.

    one additional thing that was learned in the 2008 meltdown, the men at the top lost some but the system came to their rescue. Remember “too big to fail”. The same privilege was not extended to the small investor, some in fact many lost all they had. Too many investments seem and look like a rigged game. You take my money and if the tide rises we share the return on being higher; if the tide goes lower, I lose my shirt but you will still have yours. CLICO will also come to mind.

    The reason maybe all of this stinks or has a bad odor. IMO economis at its core doesn’t really work. Its a manufactured set of rules that have a design to keep the select few “the powerful” at the top. Its a status quo mechanism. Whenever the economics “fail” we tweak the rules and pronounce it as fixed, to only fail again in a few seasons. However, the victims and victors are the same. I guess the casual observers are screamed at when they notice this regular occurrence. Early warning, don’t conflate greed or capitalism with economics, they are not the same.

    IMO Bajan needs to invest because we live in such a world, but investment comes after being able to save(savings). If you are not confident about your ability to cope with daily life and its perils near and future, and still be able to put aside something besides your saving for the long off rainy day, we will not truly be in the mood for investments. No amount of optics can disguise a pain or sore on the soul.

    Just saying.


  2. Proves what I have always said, economics is not a science. The sooner this is understood by economist the better off the world will be. I wonder if the blog-master is aware that economist are paid more than scientists. It is a system that contributes nothing to the productive output of a country. One has to wonder how a system ,based on projections of future events, has become the panacea for the well-being of the world.


  3. @ David

    +++The government is on a mission to persuade risk averse Barbadians to INVEST.+++

    Maybe so but the first job the “bevy of communications people on payroll” will have to do is UNDO the fallout from the Central Bank bond fiasco. If, as it has turned out, investing with the government is so risky, how the france are you going to convince people to put their money into projects that are on the open market and therefore subject to greater relative risk? Only time and demonstrated success in other areas will change minds!


  4. @SirFuzzy (Former Sheep) November 10, 2019 7:11 AM

    “one additional thing that was learned in the 2008 meltdown, the men at the top lost some but the system came to their rescue. Remember “too big to fail”

    In a true capitalistic world, market forces are allowed to dictate failure or success.. This didn’t happen. Goldman Sachs should have been allowed to fail. If that had happened, there would have been a redistribution of the world’s wealth away from it being predominantly Jewish. That didn’t happen because the Treasury Secretary was a former Goldman Sachs operative and was also Jewish and the Jews seem to have a disproportionate leverage based on the their numbers.


  5. @Ironside

    Good point.

    So far the winning message seems to be that the government ‘negotiated’ the domestic restructure/exchange on record time, we have significantly reduced the debt/gdp ratio, we are on track to meet IMF goals. Is this message resonating with the average Bajan? A population that has been hearing the same message for over a decade? A condition of OUR making? A difficult one!


  6. Invest in what?

    People lost millions In the local debt restructuring and more in Clico. We have a stock market that some days can’t even trade enough to buy a snack box and a coke and the real estate market is in the toilet, with a massive unsold inventory. In the last few years rents have fallen 30% and land taxes have increased in some cases by as much as 40%. So again I ask invest in what?

    Added to all of this we are in recession having been through 4 quarters of decline. We have no growth plan in place and the last budget removed a massive amount of liquidity from the economy.

    These pie in the sky calls by politicians to invest are comical to say the least. We also have a poor record of policing our financial environment, as was evident with CLICO. Our bonds are worth little and cant be traded in no secondary market, so other than promises of payment what value do they really hold? Added to this the restructuring has also remove millions in liquidity from the economy. Remember you now have people who were getting 7% receiving 1%. The 6% they lost would have been spendable income that has disappeared. So what do the people do?

    Well they opt to place their savings on the bank at .05% with inflation running at 3%. They do this out of fear and what has proven to be a poorly regulated financial system both in the private( clico) and public (gov bonds) sector.

    So when we say bajans are risk averse stop and ask yourself, are they really or are they simply aware of what a piss poor job our regulators have done to protect their interest in the past?


  7. We must not ignore the Barbados recovery is against what is unraveling or about to in the EU. Thanks John A.

    ‘Prepare for an EU crisis’ Economic shockwaves strike Brussels – ‘worst is still to come’
    LEADING officials in Brussels are on edge after recent economic forecasts pointed to an imminent collapse of the EU economy.

    By OLI SMITH
    PUBLISHED: 08:48, Sat, Nov 9, 2019 | UPDATED: 10:38, Sat, Nov 9, 2019

    EU: Expert sends warning over future of bloc’s economy

    Brussels fears that the “worst is still to come” for the EU economy, after several shockwaves this week sparked fears of an economic collapse. Bloomberg’s Annmarie Hordern confirmed that the European Commission was panicking at the latest set of economic projections, after they cut growth figures for 2020. This comes as Britain’s own economy is forecast to grow at a “broadly stable pace” according to the EU’s own Autumn 2019 Economic Outlook

    The official forecast predicted that the EU’s economy “looks to be heading towards a protracted period of more subdued growth and muted inflation”.

    Hordern explained: “The worst is still ahead for the EU.

    Read full article:
    ‘Prepare for an EU crisis’ Economic shockwaves strike Brussels – ‘worst is still to come’
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  8. @John A

    We have to start to rebuild right? To rebuild is there a price to pay? What are the trade offs we have to make to move the needle in the right direction?


  9. @ David.

    First and foremost is confidence.

    What have we done to date to fix our dismal regulatory system. What has changed? Can an MOF still print money on demand or have laws been brought to prohibit the ” Chris Printorama ” from reoccurring?

    In other words what has the state done to encourage confidence?


  10. @John A

    The government can pass laws but when push comes to shove they can print money if they want to by changing or breaking the law. The SOEs break the law every year by not laying up to date financials in parliament. The NIS gargantuan problem we have discussed many times. Both Rh political parties.


  11. @John A

    Besides a couple of Funds managed by Fortress, Royal Fidelity and government treasury bills (??) what is there to invest in??

    Truth be stated, one gets the impression government prefers the billions in savings to be mobilized to fund enterprise/businesses. Unfortunately because of our risk averse nature, given the uncertainty and lack of market confidence people will not exercise rational thought, they will go with the belief that cash is king. What will disrupt this thought pattern? A question for your heavy weights o the blog.

  12. poorpeacefulandpolite Avatar
    poorpeacefulandpolite

    “Life is short, Art long, Occasion sudden and dangerous, Experience deceitful, and Judgment difficult.” (HIPPOCRATES)


  13. @ David.

    Exactly there is no real SAFE investments out there for the public to move the billions on the banks into.

    Ask yourself this one question. You are 60 years old and have a few hundred thousand sitting on the bank. Basically besides that you own your home outright and will be retiring in say 5 years. What investment out there today is safe and productive enough that will make you take that nest egg off the bank and risk it?

    The answer is NONE.


  14. John A November 10, 2019 9:33 AM

    A very accurate assessment indeed! But as you say…we need solutions. As I said, time and success in other areas are fundamental.

    The call is too early in the game.

    Good implementation is not just about WHAT to do but WHEN, HOW much, WHERE and by WHOM!



  15. Poor countries must stop contracting global consultancy firms – IMF boss

    Magdalene Teiko Larnyoh
    01/29/2019

    The IMF boss has said that poor countries must not contract global consultancy firms to write development strategies.
    Christine Lagarde argued that the countries did not have enough to contract such firms.
    She was speaking at an event on funding of sustainable development goals at the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland.

    The Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) Christine Lagarde has urged poor countries in the world to desist from using global consultancy firms to write development strategies.

    She was speaking at an event on funding of sustainable development goals at the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland.

    https://www.pulse.com.gh/bi/strategy/poor-countries-must-stop-contracting-global-consultancy-firms-imf-boss/s0hwmnp?fbclid=IwAR0kcaC8yqn4U3UGzF7-XncesUYkHfQdaWuqUFWeujuweVjtXkJQEE_ZyQU


  16. @Ironside

    I am not one that believes growth must be government lead. I do however feel strongly that government must create a safe environment for investment. They are also solely responsible for regulation and oversight. In the absence of these, investment growth will not occur and that is where we now are.

    As a young man Barbadian Government Bonds were seen by the older folks as the bastion of security. That has changed and many of those who were there got badly hurt. What allowed that to happen was a clear case of a lack of oversight and an absence of checks and balances.

    Again I therefore ask what has changed to ensure this can not happen again? The answer is nothing.

    So in the lack of all of this where is investor confidence supposed to magically come from? Bajans will therefore leave their money on the bank even if they get zero interest and the banks charge them a storage fee for keeping it. That sir is our sad reality today and no amount of 2020 gatherings or singing ” God save the queen” will change it.

  17. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ John A at 9 :33 AM

    I concur. Invest in what? The savers are acting rationally. That is Psychology. That is what economics is about. The behaviour of man as he goes about earning his livelihood. Who has undermined investors’ confidence in this country GoB or savings depositors?
    Some armchair economists know nothing and many do not take it upon themselves to learn. Let them wallow in their stupidity.


  18. @ Vincent

    Well said my friend.

  19. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU at 9:58 AM

    Holding cash in the environment which you have described is a rational decision.
    Why is it that some of us on this blog think they are wiser than the man who owns assets?
    I think the super brainiacs should show the way by managing their assets productively. But you know what? They have none and they are looking for company.


  20. Some excellent points being made here.
    The Bdos Govt should start off by repairing the problems and loopholes in the system. Why did Clico occur? Why were they allowed to sell a product that met all the classical signs of major potential trouble? Interest rate products that offer far above market rates are the obvious area to monitor and control carefully in any country since these types of products cause more grief than any other type because they appear safe and people are conned by the higher rates that seem guaranteed.

    Govt should explain what went wrong in the GFC Global Financial Crisis, ie the laws established after the Great Depression of the 1930s, to prevent those mistakes from recurring, were repealed in 1998 by Clinton (who only had 2 yrs left in his term, what a coincidence that he would soon be out of power and so sold a big bone to the Financial Heathens) and this set the stage for the GFC 10 yrs later. So this BLP group should be illustrating the problems and solutions to the public ie Clico occured due to very weak monitoring and controls, here is what we have set up to prevent this.

    Govt should be designing and implementing systems to encourage the business environment. The message to the world should be, “come to Barbados as we are an organised country open for business” ie job & opportunity creation. This is the basis to lift up the majority of the population as we have to provide JOBS first and investments will follow. (investments in Bim and by the populace).

    The education system would also have to be designed to provide workers. The Bdos Govt changed the free education policy at UWI. All along they should have been encouraging the areas that are required eg Accounting. Why do we need to import young Accountants from India , Phillipines etc?????? UWI should have been prioritising the production of Accountants not leaving it to younsters to go into PolSci in droves and then have virtually no opportunities. Now they should be PRICING properly as in what type of grads do we need that are under supplied? Free or low cost per course. Where are we way over supplied lets say PoliSci triple the cost per course.
    The whole situation needs to be properly designed for the future and engineered to suit. The populace must be lifted up so everyone has the opportunity to benefit from the plan.


  21. @vincent

    Bear in mind the issue here has to do with cash rich Barbadians behaving rationally as you opined versus the call by talking heads to invest. This is the delta issue.

  22. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU

    @ John A

    I have made these statements before and will repeat them:

    It is the households responsibility to save;

    It is the banks and other financial Intermediaries’ jobs to lend and to invest.

    It is the GoB’s remit to lead by example and lay the foundations for economic stability and growth.

    Stability is not the same as stationarity. The earth spins but it is relatively stable.

    A few words from he who leans towards the academic.


  23. @ David.

    The reality is there is a severe lack of investment confidence based on the clico disaster and the local debt restructuring. In both cases there was one common denominator and that was the lack of oversight by government and an absence of understanding by the regulators as to their function. In other words there was no ENFORCEMENT.

    My question to you again is what has changed in the last 18 months to restore a sense of confidence and make one feel regulators exist and that the “printorama” will not occur again?

    If the answer is nothing well what then do you expect?


  24. @Vincent

    Who established these guidelines? Isn’t this the point of the discussion that markets have moved from rationality in hypotheses and homoeconomicus actors?

    PS. Been doing some research on the behavioural branch of economics.


  25. @Vincent

    Yes I agree with you the GOB must lead by example and get their act together. The lack of filings by statuary boards and the fact that government chose to forgive $500M in vat receivables, only to then impose $400M in New taxation, does little to show they have a handle on their own finances far less mine.

    Then again they may claim ” they can turn water into wine” after restructuring $500M in debt and saving $4 billion!

    Sorry couldn’t resist that as it was nothing short of comical.


  26. @John A

    Is sufficient information in the public space to answer?

  27. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU at 11:06 AM

    I cannot decide what you hear nor what you see.
    But what I have heard and seen is that some commenters want:
    a.
    the cane cutter in St.John to invest his burial fees, that he has on deposit, in an entrepreneurial activity of doubtful profitability.;

    b . the single parent mother who saving towards her children’s education must buy a show cone cart.

    Do you want the lists of other exciting projects? Or you get my drift?


  28. @Vincent

    Your point is understood.

    The question is how can the market move to a new normal of behaviour if we (consumers) are to realize ROEs to sustain a lifestyle to which we aspire.


  29. @David

    I would say the answers are out there based on the lack of answers from the politicians.

    In other words nothing has changed and the micro investor must invest at his or her own risk. The absence by government to lead by example means most older savers will leave their money on the bank and get poorer in real terms by the day. What I mean is this.

    If savings rates stay at 0.5% and inflation runs at 3% over a 10 year period a $100 dollars saved in 2019 by 2029 might be worth say $106, but it would be chasing say $137 in food at the grocery, based on the 3% inflation. So yes the persons savings will be worth more but in real term value, they will be poorer.

    I simplified it because many will argue they will have more as they save, but more in relation to what is the question we must educate our people to understand.

    It is in areas like the above that I feel ALL past governments have failed dismally. They for what ever reason do not want to enlighten and uplift out people in such matters.

  30. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU at 11:22 AM

    Please continue to read. You still have to do your own thinking and decide whether the recommendations fit Barbados’ unique situation.

    I am happy to see the recommendations of the IMF’s former Managing Director. What a pity it is too late for Barbados. Not that it would change the intentions of the people who rushed to action on little or no information.


  31. @John A and Vincent

    All that you are saying is understood but our thinking (educated class) and approach to savings and investments is predicated on the consideration of TVM. It seems we have hot a brick wall.

  32. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    Invest in what?
    Last week I invested in a small scale entrepreneur with a startup lunchtime food service business in Bridgetown. I configured what I called a Lunch As A Service (LAAS) contract and invested $1,000. My return will be $1,350 worth of lunches over the next six months… that is an annual return on investment of 70%. There are certainly at least another thousand Bajans who can afford such small scale investment; bingo, that’s a million dollars invested into the people and businesses who need it most.
    All Barbados needs is to start thinking creatively rather than continuing to whine about what the government is or isn’t doing.

  33. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU

    Please stop worrying about the market. Do you worry whether today will be sunny or not?
    You have to take whatever the environment evolves to be and navigate it. Simple. You are understanding economics but you are bringing along with it a lot of misinformed baggage which you need to shed.

    The market is made up of people who make decisions good and bad based on the information they have and their experience.


  34. @David
    @Vincent

    Let me share a little trivia with you and the readers. It’s from a restaurant prices survey done in 1975 in Barbados. Here goes and don’t laugh!

    BANKS BEER. 60CENTS
    COKE COLD. 20 CENTS
    RUM COLLINS. $1.00
    VODKA MIX. 90 CENTS
    RUM MIX. 45 CENTS
    FULL BREAKFAST. $2.25
    CHICKEN SANDWICH. 80 CENTS
    FISH &CHIPS. $2.75
    HAMBURGER. 60 CENTS
    STEAK & CHIPS. $2.75
    SHRIMP&CHIPS. $3.75
    ICE CREAM. 25 CENTS

    That my friends is the power of inflation!


  35. @Peter

    Does the average Bajan have your acuity to invest in a start up? At least do back of the envelop analysis?

    #askingforagoodfriend


  36. @Vincent

    Why should consumers not worry about the state of the market? Where is confidence engendered? Importantly, how do we get holders of savings to invest in startups and other enterprise like Peter. It is not an unheard of approach to manage and diversify ones investment portfolio.


  37. @PLT

    playing the devil’s advocate one can argue you took a gamble and did not make an investment. The reason being you did not factor in the variables such as.

    You may not like the food.

    You may be unable to eat there weekly.

    The entity may not last 6 months

    You God forbid may have an accident and be unable to drive your car to the establishment.

    These are just a few factors that may cause you to fail to see a return on your investment.

    I am not being negative here I am just using your example to show how an investor would measure the risk to reward factor that’s all.

    Having said that kudos for helping a small guy make a start. It’s a good feeling, as like you I still get my car valet for free due to a similar arrangement. Lol

  38. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ John A at 12 :01 PM

    Point understood.
    This must be a parable. I do not even recall a polo lolly being 25 cents then; much more an ice cream at 25 Cents. Wow!
    But Yes. We must factor in the inflationary effects of taxes , rising costs of fuel ,wages and raw materials.
    Interests rates are intended to take care of these, but now with negative rates we are paying the institutions for keeping our money safe. But do they? Can they?

  39. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @David and @hisgoodfreind
    All the analysis necessary for this investment I learned before taking the 11+. The only thing the MBA added was the propensity to add a high fallutin’ name and acronym like Lunch As A Service (LAAS).
    Let’s break it down:
    1. am I going to continue to buy lunch at work several days per week despite my plans to bring lunch from home? Yes.
    2. do I know how much I tend to spend on lunch, including a beverage? Yes.
    3. does this entrepreneur have a varied enough menu for me to get lunch there three times per week without getting tired of it? I think so.
    4. do I have $1,000 in cash to invest? Yes.


  40. @ Vincent.

    Exactly my point and concern! Based on the info on the food prices can we depend on banks to really safe guard us?

    My answer would be no as they are playing a pivotal role in making us poorer. For example to buy a car they will lend you money with a smile. At the end of say 5 years they have made say 40% off of you and the ” asset” they financed is now worth 50 % less than you bought it for.

    So answer me aren’t they in fact assisting In making you poorer?


  41. @Peter

    Was any learning required to address the pervasive risk averse nature of a typical Bajan?


  42. Again though it boils down to a lack of understanding by many the difference between an asset and a liability.

  43. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    David BU at 12 :02 PM

    I answered that question at 11:15 AM. You should borrow from a financial intermediary and get a free financial and marketing assessment. Keep your deposit for emergencies.

  44. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @John A
    “You may not like the food.” Taste tested before investment… not freebees, I paid for lunch a few times and talked to the entrepreneur before investing

    “You may be unable to eat there weekly.” Yes, that’s my risk… but you don’t make 70% annual return without some risk.

    “The entity may not last 6 months” Yes, this is the most significant risk… but now that the entrepreneur has the risk capital to invest in wayfinding signage and flyers to all the other bougie people like me in surrounding office buildings, that risk is drastically reduced. Which, of course, is the entire point of the exercise.

    “You God forbid may have an accident and be unable to drive your car to the establishment.” If I’m in the hospital I will pay someone to go pick up my lunch and deliver it to me… it will help me recover much faster than hospital food.


  45. @ PLT

    I.like the plan but stay out the hospital as I like chatting with you.

  46. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @David
    “… risk averse nature of a typical Bajan…”
    ++++++++++++++++
    The investor, that’s me, is the one taking this risk; luckily I’m not a typical Bajan.
    Let’s look at it from the entrepreneurs point of view. They have taken a big risk in venturing a startup enterprise in Barbados, but signing the LAAS with me lowers that risk by adding to their small pool of startup capital and simultaneously pre-selling several months of service to me. If their gross margin is 40%— ie it costs them $6 in ingredients, labour and overhead to serve me $10 worth of lunch— then it will cost them only $810 to serve me $1,350 worth of lunches. So they get $1,000 risk free, it cost them only $810 to pay it off completely, and I make 70% return on my investment.
    That’s what’s called a win-win.

  47. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    For someone who hates capitalism, I’m actually embarrassingly good at it 😉


  48. @PLT 12.42pm
    I appreciate your admission.
    If I pulled that investment it would be called rape.

  49. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @NorthernObserver
    So explain to me why “it would be called rape” when it costs the entrepreneur only $810 over 6 months to clear a $1,000 debt.

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