Found and Lost

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Grenville Phillips II, Leader of Solutions Barbados

In 1776, the United States of America (USA) declared its independence from Britain, and there was war. France joined the USA in 1778, and attacked British interests in the Caribbean the following year. The French captured St Vincent and Grenada, and there was general panic in Barbados that we would be next.

On 16 June 1779, Spain joined France in the war, hoping to reclaim Gibraltar and the island of Minorca from the British. The Spanish quickly blockaded Gibraltar, hoping to starve the defenders.

Barbados was defended by about 22 coastal forts, which could easily be overpowered if Barbados was invaded. On 26 July 1779, Barbados’ legislature voted to construct a defendable fort. A hill called Mount Charity, in the parish of St George, was selected for the construction of Fort George.

On 10 October 1780, a Category 5 hurricane struck Barbados, with wind speeds estimated as high as 200 mph (by comparison, Hurricane Dorian was 185 mph). It destroyed all forts, and every building in Barbados was damaged or destroyed. It resulted in the deaths of an estimated 4,326 people in Barbados. It also caused about 9,000 deaths in Martinique from the 25 ft storm surge (Dorian produced a 23 ft surge).

On 1 June 1781, the French captured Tobago. On 14 August 1781, the French navy informed George Washington, that they were travelling from the West Indies to Virginia, with a fleet of 29 warships and 3,200 troops.

On 28 September 1781, the combined USA and French forces had a major British force trapped at the coastal town of Yorktown, Virginia. After a few weeks of heavy bombardment, the British surrendered on 17 October 1781, which was a decisive defeat. Approximately 8,000 British troops were captured, and the 29 French warships returned to the West Indies.

On 19 August 1781, a combined French and Spanish force invaded the island of Minorca. The island had a fort which had been massively strengthened to survive a siege for one year. The combined force started bombarding the fort on 11 November 1781. The British lasted 3 months before surrendering on 4 February 1782.

In January 1782, twenty-nine French ships, with about 8,000 landing troops, sailed to invade Barbados. They were to join 18 ships already anchored off Barbados. However, a strong wind blew them away from Barbados, so they captured St Kitts instead. By February 1782, the only Caribbean islands that remained in British possession were Barbados, Antigua and Jamaica.

On 25 May 1782, the British troops at Gibraltar started digging siege tunnels and underground galleries in the limestone rock. On 18 September 1782, a grand assault of Gibraltar by French and Spanish forces (60,000 men and 49 ships) decisively failed to defeat the 5,000 British defenders.

On 3 September 1783, a final peace agreement was signed between Britain and the USA, France, and Spain. The Barbados Assembly met that same day and decided to abandon further construction of Fort George, rather than raise new taxes to complete it. The main reason was that they “could not discover its utility”.

What Were They Building?

From 1741, the Royal Military Academy started teaching the scientific principles of gunnery and fortifications. Therefore, the final design of Fort George would likely have been informed by at least four events. The destruction of forts in Barbados by the Great Hurricane of 1780, the successful bombardment of Yorktown in 1781, the successful bombardment of Minorca’ fort in 1782, and the successful defence of Gibraltar in 1782.

Perhaps the reason why the Assembly could not discover the utility of Fort George, was because its main asset was a military secret. We are still discovering secret military installations in Barbados. In 2011, the secret troop movement tunnels were discovered by accident at the Garrison. So far, approximately 10,000 ft (3 km) of tunnels have been identified.

This year, the general public learnt of a massive underground building at Fort George. It comprised a series of majestic arches, and was large enough to house many people and supplies. The coral-stone masonry work was exquisite, and the arches were reinforced with two rows of brickwork. It appeared to be in very good condition.

The building seemed to be the British’s solution to a shelter that could survive a Category 5 hurricane and military bombardment, and be finished for use by a Governor. Thus, Barbados seemed to have constructed the first, and only known masonry military bunker on this planet. No record of a military bunker was found in the historical record until approximately 150 years later, where it would be made of concrete.

Approximately one month ago, the Barbados Water Authority ordered the complete destruction of this priceless international treasure. There is a heavy price to pay for rewarding political supporters with managing our public services. We are normally on the losing end of their skills. But sometimes, so is the entire world.

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer and President of Solutions Barbados. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

44 comments

  • peterlawrencethompson
    September 8, 2017 10:45 AM

    Bush Tea,
    I understand that the type of amnesia which afflicts John is unfortunately widespread in Barbados. It is a very damaging cognitive dysfunction and while I grieve for what John has endured, I will cease making excuses for his behaviour.
    Elombe worked hard to root out this historical amnesia from the Barbados Museum & Historical Society in his day, but it still seems well entrenched at the Barbados National Trust.
    Take a look at the sign at Cotton Tower:

    This blatantly dishonest and misleading interpretive signage at the Cotton Tower Signal Station is a transparent tissue of lies and half truths.
    No “enemy troops” of any nationality posed a credible invasion threat to Barbados in 1819. The British Navy had decimated both the French and Spanish naval fleets at Trafalgar fourteen years before and they had not recovered. Britain had achieved a final decisive victory in the Napoleonic wars only four years before and was unchallenged in the Caribbean. Moreover, Cotton Tower overlooks the reef bound St. Joseph coastline, from which direction a foreign naval invasion would have been utterly impossible. It is a transparent lie to pretend that Cotton Tower was intended to “defend against invasion by enemy troops.”
    “Civil disorder” is a slimy euphemism for the real reason for this military installation: it was built to suppress uprisings of enslaved people who struggled under inhumane oppression.
    The Cotton Tower signage needs to point out that it was opened just three years after the Bussa led rebellion had shattered the complacency of the plantocracy and their illusion that enslaved Bajan people did not have the spirit for revolt. It needs to be explicit about the desire of the planters and local militia to get signals to the British regiment at the Garrison so that they could speedily dispatch heavily armed regular troops to supress any further revolt of enslaved Bajans. The signage needs to make it clear that the “small apertures in the walls” are embrasures which give a 360 degree field of fire for the occupants of Cotton Tower, creating a killing field in every direction of approach.
    The fact that these signal stations “were used for non-military purposes” is irrelevant to their design, construction, and survival: the non-military purposes required only a naked flagpole which would have long since rotted, fallen, and turned to dust. The sole reason that Cotton Tower survives is that it was designed and constructed as a military killing machine aimed explicitly at the enslaved population.
    I’ve wrote a letter to the Barbados National Trust about this a few days ago but I won’t hold my breath for a response. It is almost two hundred years since this threatening little monstrosity was erected: are we so weak and insecure that we can’t handle the truth about it in 2017?

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  • Vincent Codrington

    I know I will get curse again. Another insightful piece. The photographs never resembled a water cistern.

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  • VC

    Because we are/were looking at the completed magazine of the fort.

    It may have been used by the WWD as a cistern also!!

    The Governor’s house is long gone, possibly a victim of the 1831 hurricane or the 1843 earthquake!!

    That’s what can sometimes happen when you build without codes.

    Life is a gamble

    The flagstaff for signaling is also gone.

    Perhaps the Signal Station was a part of the communication network built by the British Army to communicate with Speightstown where American Privateers often raided during the American War of Independence and where there was a Fort, probably moved with the earth to please!!.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=b-BxCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA155&lpg=PA155&dq=%22american+privateers%22+speightstown&source=bl&ots=6HBdcc48wm&sig=ACfU3U0gkPyrXrTjFh0JqjHnJQ9L9dSb2g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj07d3hqf3kAhWKiOAKHdEEAR0Q6AEwAHoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22american%20privateers%22%20speightstown&f=false

    https://scholarworks.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1227&context=honorstheses

    Here is an excerpt from Schomburgk, written c.1848

    “In the King’s Library at the British Museum, is a plan of Fort George on Mount Charity in Barbados, by Thomas Walker, Lieutenant of the 65th Regiment, dated February 9th, 1782, and dedicated to Major-General Cunninghame. A part of the
    fortifications were then finished, and the grand bastion bad been commenced and was at that time seven feet high (it was intended to be twenty-two feet in height).

    The Governor’s house and a large magazine were built.

    The pillar for the flagstaff then erecting was to be fourteen feet high, and by seeing all the horizon to windward, speedy alarms could be raised and signals conveyed.

    A well for the supply of water had been sunk twenty fathoms.

    The fort when finished was to be mounted with twenty-two pieces of cannon, besides others which were intended to be put on the top of the hill. At that time six brass and five iron twenty-four pounders, two iron eighteen-pounders, two brass and two iron twelve-pounders, making in all eighteen guns, had been got up.

    The fort is nearly central between Bridgetown and Oistin’s, and fourteen acres of ground belong to it.

    This piece of folly, which cost the country enormous sums, lies now in ruins.”

    It is interesting to note that Samuel Rouse, President of the Council, died in 1780 and is buried in the Rous Vault at Halton in St. Philip with his Quaker ancestors, including perhaps the step daughter of George Fox!!

    His wife followed him in the 1790’s.

    I hope the powers that be don’t get it in their heads to move a bit more earth in St. Philip to please!!

    Codes perhaps needed to prevent imminent disasters?

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  • What did we really expect the ‘authorities’ would do?? These are the same ‘authorities’ that provide 4 (or 5?) BRA outlets to service a population of nearly 300,000 people for Income Tax, land Tax, Vehicle Licences & Stickers, etc….. while STAFF work ‘short’ hours …. with usually late opening, 3 of 6 cashiers open at a time, mass lunch hours instead of staggered, etc…… come on, folks…. these ‘authorities’ are content with mediocrity and will resist any new innovation…. will be satisfied with poor service, employees operating in slow-motion and similar attributes….ONCE THEY ELECT THEM!! Don’t expect much to change quickly…. we move S-L-O-W…. and we are proud of it.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    I agree. No structures are put in place to process new impositions on the departments. Then we wonder why we do not get the required outcomes.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ John at 6 :13 AM

    The “completed magazine” was of historical and engineering value to Barbadians. It should not have been destroyed. Things like these are inspiration to the young. One does not learn everything from a book and in schools.

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  • Whatever it was I don’t think it should have been demolished.

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  • Who is claiming that it was originally designed to be a water cistern?

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  • @Grenville

    Do you agree with the resilience initiative by government? Did you attend yesterday?

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  • nextparty246
    October 2, 2019 12:54 PM

    Who is claiming that it was originally designed to be a water cistern?

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    Until I found the reference in Schomburgk to a magazine I thought it was a cistern like everyone else.

    When I first saw the physical structure in my early Sunday Hikes I was told it was the original WWD reservoir.

    By then the steel tank was up.

    Unless someone can find something else that is a magazine logic suggests that is what it was from the beginning.

    WWD then probably used it as a cistern.

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  • I agree with Grenville that site should have been preserved and exploited for its revenue potential

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  • Thank you Grenville Phillips 11 for Bring this to the Light a True Story of the Destruction by MAN-Crime that has been Dumb Down by the Powers that be.

    Somehow Freedom Crier Feels that these Photograph by Leslie St. John will be Stored File Thirteen!!!

    Leslie St. John Photography
    “I photographed this for the Barbados National Trust so that it would at the very least be documented for history. Sadly this site has since been completely demolished. The loss of this is a real shame. I can only hope that in the future heritage considerations are factored in before the project actually gets going.”

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  • THE NEED OF GOVERNMENTS TO FRIGHTEN THEIR CITIZENS ABOUT THE CLIMATE IN ORDER TO RAISE MONEY IS INTERNATIONAL IN SCOPE.

    Weep for our Nation…The Images Below Portray an Imagery of UNACCOUNTABILITY in High Places…Look at what is being thrust on Bajans Now…Bogus Climate Change a Betrayal of Barbadians to get money from the Coffers of the UN COMMUNIST GLOBALIST! The Fort George Debacle may be Symbolically what is taking place in our Nation with No Accountability and a lot of Intrigue. The Ploy is to get the Populace on board that way you cannot complain when the Ka Ka hits the fan!

    All we are hearing is how good RE is and that Barbados is playing a Role in Saving the Planet and that they are saving Barbados from Climate Emergency and Sea Level Rising for Small Island States like us. In the Last Twenty Years Barbados has had a Great Increase in Beaches Bigger and Better Beaches than was ever there, just look at Charslile Bay, look at Worthing Beach. When I was a Young person the water used to come from the ocean to In front of Blue Horizon.

    We Believe Our Eyes…I do not Believe what they are Saying because they are telling something that is Not True. They want me to say that what I am seeing is not real and accuse me of having lying eyes. But with all the Happy talk and all the Virtue Signalling please tell us that the final Price to the Consumers from BL&P is going to Decrease. Or are they refusing to tell us because it’s going to go up!

    THEY ARE USING SCARE TACTICS LIKE WATER SHORTAGE BEING CAUSED BY CLIMATE CHANGE WHEN IN FACT UNDERGROUND LEAKS WASTE OVER 60% OF OUR WATER THAT THE BWA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. (THE ESTIMATES GO AS HIGH AS INTO THE 80%).

    For Sane People looking at the world, living in the world, and becoming wiser with age, we see man’s Folly in Everything around us where Belief of Nonsensical things are held as Facts and Facts are said to be Out Dated. Moreover, in the Environmental Sphere a New Religion is Born, and that the Existence of Man is Evil and Nature is Good. In order for this Religious Zeal to Thrive, the Cult of Climate Alarmism is being pushed by people that think of CONTROLLING others. You will find that their Core Beliefs are to impose their wills on others and this Religion of Environmentalism is the Method they use. Even Hitler was an Environmentalist and a Vegetarian and never smoked, all of the Good Virtues of Virtue Signalling in this New Religion of Climate Alarmism!

    YES, THERE IS A CLIMATE-RELATED EMERGENCY. IT IS THE THREAT TO OUR WAY OF LIFE IN THE FREE DEMOCRATIC WORLD – IMPOSED ON US BY CLIMATE ALARMISTS, MANY OF WHOM DO NOT REALLY CARE ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, PEOPLE OR THE ENVIRONMENT. IT IS AN ASSAULT NO LESS FRIGHTENING AND DAMAGING THAN THE WARS THAT HAVE PLAGUED MANKIND SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME. IT’S TIME FOR PEOPLE AND GOVERNMENTS TO STAND UP TO THE POWER-HUNGRY ALARMISTS, AND NOT COW TAIL TO THEM.

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  • THE LIES THAT GOVERNMENTS, THE UNITED NATIONS, AND THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND TELL ABOUT THE CLIMATE ARE ABOUT THE MONEY THEY CAN EXTRACT FROM CITIZENS WHO MUST BE KEPT FRIGHTENED ENOUGH TO PAY TAXES ON THEIR USE OF ENERGY.

    For more than 50 years Climate Alarmists in the scientific community and environmental movement have not gotten even one prediction correct, but they do have a perfect record of getting 41 predictions wrong.
    In other words, on at least 41 occasions, these so-called experts have predicted some terrible environmental catastrophe was imminent … and it never happened.
    And not once — not even once! — have these alarmists had one of their predictions come true.

    LIST OF DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS CLIMATE ALARMIST GOT RIGHT
    NONE.
    ZIP.
    ZERO.
    NADA.
    BLANK
    DONUT HOLE
    NIL.
    NOTHING.
    VOID.
    ZILCH.
    LIST OF DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS THE CLIMATE ALARMIST GOT WRONG

    Here is the source for numbers 1-28. As you will see, the individual sources are not crackpots, but scientific studies and media reports on “expert” predictions. The sources for numbers 29-41 are linked individually.
    1. 1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
    2. 1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
    3. 1970: Ice Age By 2000
    4. 1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
    5. 1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
    6. 1972: New Ice Age By 2070
    7. 1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
    8. 1974: Another Ice Age?
    9. 1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
    10. 1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
    11. 1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
    12. 1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
    13. 1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
    14. 1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
    15. 1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
    16. 1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
    17. 1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
    18. 2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
    19. 2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
    20. 2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
    21. 2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
    22. 2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
    23. 2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
    24. 2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
    25. 2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
    26. 2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
    27. 2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
    28. 2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
    29. 1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
    30. 1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
    31. 1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
    32. 1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
    33. 1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
    34. 1980: Peak Oil In 2000
    35. 1996: Peak Oil in 2020
    36. 2002: Peak Oil in 2010
    37. 2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
    38. 1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
    39. 1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
    40. 1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
    41. 1970s: Killer Bees!

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  • Thanks again for sharing those pictures,
    In a country which depends on tourism and has so few available attractions, this structure would have become one of the top attractions. The folly is just amazing.

    It is good that the water cistern theory is being challenged. Storage of water does not require such a complicated structure…

    Grasshopper …….

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  • Most of our ancestors, Quaker and slave, were buried in unmarked graves in fields on many plantations.

    Sometime those fields are easily identifiable from their names.

    There is a report on Historic Sites from 1910 (!!) listing not only Fort George as one, but also detailing some of the marked burials from the 17th century around Barbados.

    It seems logical that the marked graves serve to mark an area as a burying ground.

    The marked burial of Samuel Rouse at Halton from 1784 is one such area that is worth preserving and perhaps dowsing .. or GPRing

    Often when the earth is moved to please, the remains of our ancestors are also moved and scattered!!

    From what I have read of the Quakers, death was viewed as the beginning of life eternal.

    However they were fully aware of the concept of sacrilege!!

    That’s what has been going on routinely for as long as we have been independent.

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  • For those who frequent “The Villages”.

    Be aware that the mountains of earth will contain the mortal remains of our ancestors, slave and Quaker.

    The Villages is built on possibly two old plantation burying grounds.

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  • @ John

    During excavations when human remans are unearthed do we call in archaeologists?

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  • It happened at Port St. Charles with the Amerindian pottery.

    Probably happened on other occasions but it isn’t something we get much of here.

    I know it should be a regular occurrence because of the burying grounds I can say exist.

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  • I have also heard of occasions where hman remains are found in excavation and are hurriedly swept under the carpet because of the delays possible.

    Also, I am sure the developers of a housing area are not going to want future buyers to know they will be living on dead people!

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  • Damned Philistines in our midst….no pride,no industry,no class.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    Lovely brickwork. Distribution of gravity through arches. Architecturally pleasing. A big loss indeed.

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  • I just spoke to the contractor who demolished this priceless treasure. He explained that the building was so well constructed, that it resisted all normal attempts to demolish it. It was as solid as hard rock.

    This meant that the structure behaved as I would expect a Structural Engineer to design it. This would be to distribute impact loads throughout the building to the foundations. This was an engineering/architectural marvel in more ways than one.

    This was built at at time when the Architect/Engineer was the same person. The structure was the art. After this time, the architect would concentrate on the art while the Engineer would concentrate on calculating the strength. There was so much to learn from this wonderful building.

    The building also demonstrated the quality of work that slaves could produce when outside of the plantation. This was not a slave hut, where funds were limited. This demonstrated what was possible when you gave our foreparents quality materials and time away from the slave master. The workmanship was exquisite.

    Since the building could not be demolished like any normal building, he had to resort to construction methods used when excavating through solid hard rock. He used the heavy hammer. With significant effort, he managed to demolish the structure.

    The building resisted until the end. It survived generations of colonial rule, major hurricanes, earthquakes, and misuse. It could not survive the extreme political supporter, but it went down fighting.

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  • A narrative that evokes tremendous sadness. What kind of society are we to not have triggers to avoid what happened?

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  • David:

    When the management of our public services are given as rewards to extreme political supporters, then their fun normally becomes our sorrow.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    Nextparty246 at 3:53 PM

    Exactly my thoughts. It is time for a demolition code for the built environment.

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  • I just spoke to the contractor who demolished this priceless treasure. He explained that the building was so well constructed, that it resisted all normal attempts to demolish it. It was as solid as hard rock.

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    Consistent with a powder magazine built almost 250 years ago perhaps?

    I would say yes!!

    Got to be strong to keep out incoming fire!!

    Built underground, weakest point will be roof so arches got to be there in support.

    British Army.

    Once America was lost Britain lost the tax revenue from trade.

    No point continuing with its construction.

    Samuel Rous was president of Council at the time and came from a long line of Quakers.

    Buried in the Rous Vault at Halton in 1784.

    That vault will mark the burying area on the plantation where slaves and other Quakers were buried in unmarked graves.

    Practical common sense business people …. no way Barbados was paying for the folly, Britain could go ahead, but not Barbados.

    The coastal forts from the 17th century were flimsy affairs as though there was nothing really to defend.

    Here is a link provided by Freedom Crier that will give an idea of what it was supposed to have looked like.

    https://collections.leventhalmap.org/search/commonwealth:6108vw21t

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  • What a bunch of idiots we have at the top!!

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  • Cannot believe people could be so stupid!!

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  • Hal Austin
    October 3, 2019 8:06 AM

    @ John
    During excavations when human remans are unearthed do we call in archaeologists?

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    If the driver, his supervisor and so on up the chain of command can’t figure out to stop in this instance, what you think will happen if a few bones are unearthed?

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ John at 10:50 PM

    There is an inconsistency/ error in the documents uploaded. The doner and owner seemed to have overlapping reigns. Is the source of these documents reliable?

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  • I still don’t believe that somebody actually found that interesting structure and demolished it without calling in the experts. Who is responsible? That’s what i’d like to know.

    David is right. There should be clear guidelines on what to do when encountering such..

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  • Donna:

    The Barbados National Trust alerted the BWA of their blunder, and the BWA ordered all demolition stopped. By that time, half of the building was demolished. The photos of the remaining half are shown by Freedom Crier on this comment thread.

    One week later, the remaining half was ordered to be demolished. So said, so done.

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  • nextparty246
    October 4, 2019 12:33 PM

    Donna:
    The Barbados National Trust alerted the BWA of their blunder, and the BWA ordered all demolition stopped. By that time, half of the building was demolished. The photos of the remaining half are shown by Freedom Crier on this comment thread.
    One week later, the remaining half was ordered to be demolished. So said, so done.

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    What chance do a few old bones have?

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  • One week later, the remaining half was ordered to be demolished. So said, so done.
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    What is strange is that the GOB should have had a 12 or 16 acre site to deal with so why on earth would they need to interfere with the magazine?

    Two reasons come to mind.

    First, the GOB no longer owns 12-16 acres, somebody else does and that somebody was unwilling to donate the land or have it acquired!!

    Second, the bricks were the object of the demolition.

    The week suggests the decision to destroy the remaining half had to be elevated to the top.

    If that is the case, heads should roll, the minister responsible should be demoted and Sir COW relieved of his title!!

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  • Vincent Codrington
    October 4, 2019 10:56 AM

    @ John at 10:50 PM
    There is an inconsistency/ error in the documents uploaded. The doner and owner seemed to have overlapping reigns. Is the source of these documents reliable?

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    I looked at the map and I can recognize Lane who owned what became Lower Birneys Plantation, Barrow who owned Upton Plantation and Birney (Barney) who owned Hanson Plantation.

    Birney bought out Lane and that seems to be why Lower Birney’s got its name, Like Lower Greys … believe it or not there was an Upper Greys too!!

    The cartroads make sense and the fields (hatched) make sense.

    It isn’t an accurately surveyed map just an impression of the finished product.

    Artist or Architect/Engineer, perhaps one in the same.

    Whoever drafted it had a very good eye for the lay of the land.

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  • Did you know there were five Fort George’s in New York, all a legacy of the historical past of New York?

    “Fort George was the name of five forts in what is now the state of New York.[1][2]

    The first Fort George was built in 1626 in the Dutch colony of New Amsterdam and named Fort Amsterdam. The British Army renamed it Fort James in 1664. It was briefly re-occupied by the Dutch from 1673 to 1674 as Fort Willem Hendrick. The British named the fort Fort William Henry in 1691, Fort Anne or Queen’s Fort in 1703, and finally Fort George in 1714. The north side bastions and ramparts were destroyed in the American Revolutionary War in 1776 by the Americans, and finally demolished in 1790. The site is now the location of the Alexander Hamilton U.S. Custom House in Lower Manhattan.

    A second Fort George was built by the British in 1755 at Oswego, New York, but it was destroyed by the French commander Louis-Joseph de Montcalm in 1756. The site is now Montcalm Park, bordered by West Schulyer Street, Montcalm Street and West 6th Street.[3]

    A third Fort George was built in Lake George, New York, in 1755. It was destroyed in 1777 and abandoned in 1780. It was located south east of Fort William Henry facing Lake George, in the wooded area within Lake George Battlefield Park).[3]

    A fourth Fort George was an encampment built on Staten Island around 1777 in the area of St. George, Staten Island, likely Fort Hill.[3]

    The last Fort George was built in 1776 in New York City on Fort George Hill, near the current intersection of Audubon Avenue and West 192nd Street in Upper Manhattan. Briefly named Fort Clinton and finally Fort George, from 1895 to 1914 it was the site of the Fort George Amusement Park, and is now the location of George Washington Educational Campus and part of Highbridge Park. Fort George Hill is also the name of a present-day street in the area.[4] The neighborhood surrounding the hill is called Fort George, and is considered a sub-neighborhood of Washington Heights. It is generally agreed to run from West 181st Street to Dyckman Street east of Broadway to the Harlem River.[5]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_George,_New_York

    The third one at Lake George is a part of a State Park.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fort+George+Road,+Lake+George,+NY+12845,+USA/@43.4163865,-73.7091115,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89dfc453325c4da1:0x7c1b3e6e38db434e!8m2!3d43.4147967!4d-73.7083927

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  • Fort George at Lake George in New York predates Fort George in Barbados by about 20 years.

    From its plan it looks as if it was the model for the one here in Barbados.

    Here is the plan, tell me what you think of the perspective of what appears to have been underground.

    https://collections.leventhalmap.org/search/commonwealth:hx11z2014

    Would have been a nice hook for tourists from the New York area who are military history buffs!!

    Pity it was blown up and obliterated for a few bricks, and not even in a war!!

    Sir COW and the minister achieved what the entire French army and navy never could!!

    PLT, if you look carefully at the elevation in the drawing you will see what looks like the spot where the flag staff would have been placed, looks like the British Army were into signaling long before Fort George was built here.

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  • Fort George in New York was built after the massacre at Fort William Henry nearby and its destruction by Montcalm.

    “Following the 1757 siege, the French destroyed the fort and withdrew. While other forts were built nearby in later years, the site of Fort William Henry lay abandoned. In the 19th century, it was a destination for tourists.

    In the 1950s interest in the history of the site revived, and a replica of the fort was constructed. It is now operated as a living museum and a popular tourist attraction in the village of Lake George.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_William_Henry

    Going back to Captain Hutt’s days and the 7 years war, 1756-63.

    James Fenimore Cooper wrote the book “The of the Mohicans” based on what happened at Fort William Henry.

    Enjoyed the film although it was a bit bloody!!

    If you do want to visit and enjoy a bit of history, book now!!!!

    https://www.booking.com/searchresults.en-gb.html?aid=311984;label=lake-george-48-canada-street-UC%2AbRFox3I0By3IMSfi69gS267221343103%3Apl%3Ata%3Ap1%3Ap2%3Aac%3Aap1t1%3Aneg%3Afi%3Atikwd-4347607682%3Alp9070110%3Ali%3Adec%3Adm;sid=98f4543a0a9ad9cba11708686482d90f;city=20087528;expand_sb=1;highlighted_hotels=336620;hlrd=no_dates;keep_landing=1;redirected=1;source=hotel&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItKq6z86G5QIVhK7ICh2SpAfeEAAYASAAEgLGrvD_BwE&

    Get your tickets here!!

    https://www.fwhmuseum.com/

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  • John:

    Since George was the name of the English king at the time, many forts were called Fort George. They were individually designed to take advantage of the unique location characteristics, including topography and geology.

    The image of Fort George in Barbados is provided below.

    https://www.granger.com/results.asp?inline=true&image=0646752&wwwflag=4&itemx=40

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  • If you look at the perspective and section of the one built in 1755 in New York, perhaps you can see the arches we saw when the magazine was demolished here.

    https://collections.leventhalmap.org/search/commonwealth:hx11z2014

    The actual fort/bastion seems to have been built on top of the magazine which would make sense as it would have provided “armour” against plunging fire.

    The support structure of the roof of the magazine and ground/floor of the fort above ground would have been exceptionally strongly built because not only was it designed to support the structure above it also was to avoid collapse and penetration by incoming fire.

    HMS Hood lasted 3 minutes under the plunging fire of Bismark.

    Since Fort George in New York was destroyed in the war of the American Revolution it is fair to assume that when the British begun Fort George here it was being built to an even stronger design specification.

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