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Some have been following the intense negotiations in motion between the government of Barbados and external bondholders. Whether one agrees with the decision of the Mottley government to trigger SD, the bottomline is that this is where we find ourselves and ALL Barbadians must support the effort of the government through its agent White Oaks to close the best deal for the country.

Barbados is not the first country to trigger SD and will not be the last, let us get over it. Debt restructure comes in all shapes and sizes, if we breath some life into the economy the opportunity to improve credit ratings will come.

It is unfortunate some members of the political class prefer to nitpick instead of rallying around the flag at this juncture. The decision was made, move on!

White Oak is being paid very well to negotiate the best deal for Barbados. They have done similar deals for other countries and the principals are known to those sitting across the table. That some will want Barbados to cave to the creditors because we are the defaulter and therefore should accept terms offered by the lender is nonsense.

However this blogmaster agrees there is a need to demystify the matter for the average Barbadian to  assist with informing a national debate on the ramifications of a protracted negotiation.

Here is another article planted in the international press by the other side to pressure the government of Barbados.

-David, Barbados underground

Creditors prepare to push back on Barbados debt proposal

By Miluska Berrospi

NEW YORK, June 12 (IFR) – Investors are preparing to push back on a restructuring proposal released this week by the government of Barbados, sources told IFR on Wednesday.

After months of discussions with creditors, the government, which suspended debt payments last year, laid out on Tuesday two options for holders of its 7.25% 2021s, 7% 2022s and 6.625% 2035s.

But creditors, which had feared the government would launch an exchange without their consent, said such terms were unsatisfactory.

“We hope that before they actually launch an offer, the government will re-approach us and try to reengage in conversations,” said an investor involved in the process.

“If they launch something we’re prepared to reject it and wait,” he added.

The creditor committee comprising both dollar bond and loan holders are preparing a response for later this week, sources said.

“The government of Barbados has improved the proposed terms as much as it possibly can given its commitment under the IMF-support program,” the Barbados government said in a statement on Tuesday.

In October 2018, the International Monetary Fund (IMF)approved a US$290m bailout for the Caribbean nation.

“We are disappointed that they’re taking the tone that they are. We think it’s damaging to the country and to foreign investment,” added the investor.

Creditors would have about three weeks to respond were the government to launch a formal exchange offer on the options presented.

No payments have been made on outstanding debt since Prime Minister Mia Mottley took office in May of last year.

The country restructured around Bds$12bn (US$6bn) of domestic last October.

https://www.nasdaq.com/article/creditors-prepare-to-push-back-on-barbados-debt-proposal-20190612-00956

 


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221 responses to “Barbados Pushing Back on External Creditors”


  1. @ John A

    Why do you bother.

    DO these terms seem reasonable to you. The Wh.ite Hoax crew and fake prof.essor probably mistook the foreigners for Bajan Brass Bowls.


  2. @ Dullard,

    In times of crisis there are always lots of innovative answers. But, as we return to normality, we will also return to order and discipline. Cryptocurrencies were created to bypass central banks in 2008.
    No disciplined society will allow this to happen. Will you allow Zuckerberg to control all the data about your life, including your spending habits?


  3. When and where has the blogmaster plugged BITT? By BITT you mean bitcoin or Bitt.com. Asking for a friend.

    The Adams and Abel run outfit. Ring any bells?


  4. -Abel + Abed


  5. JOHN A

    PRECISELY who will determine what a disaster is? Is it CERO?

    One will agree that if that clause is agreed on in the negotiations the two team will decide on that who.

    In the mean time you are in here appointing urself and deciding it can be heavy rainfall. Foolishness.

    Maybe you should consult a dictionary for the words disaster and event.

    I have no loyality to any party, I am a member of none and I voted for none. For the last election I morally supported the
    BLP because the DLP wasn’t cutting it and the third parties IMO are not ready yet.
    I discovered BU in my attempt to follow Solution Barbados but got turned off along the way.

    Keep on with your ignorance!

    Why should I read a damn contract to correct you the a rain event is not a disaster?

    You sir is who making the foolish comments and giving foolish instructions.

  6. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @WilliamSkinner . I repeat. It’s the first time in Jamaica’s independent history that it has tick so many boxes from a macroeconomy perspective. Jamaica experience high economic growth in the 50’s and 60’s… never to be duplicated again. Even Lee Kwan Hue was so impressed with jamaica economic dynamism that he visited the island in the very early 70s. However, from the mid-seventies to 2013 the macroeconomy metrics were poor on all fronts. Eg. regular annual double digit inflation, unemployment rate of over 12%, high interest rate, constant depreciation of the currency, high fiscal deficit and debt ratio.

    A world bank study some years ago showed that jamaica had one of, if not, the slowest economic growth rate in the world of since 1974.


  7. You need to reread with comprehension.


  8. @ Dullard

    I know you are correct to ignore some, but it annoys me when some try to mislead the public out of yardfowlism. This is by far the most serious issue we face and when I read the total crap excuses and reasoning for lack of a better word some apply, I can’t help but wonder where our tax dollars went in free education.

    I don’t expect all to be interested in this topic, but I really wish the deflectors would just take a break and let us discuss our reality and share facts and data with people as opposed to propaganda dressed up as such.

    I know you will tell me ignore them but Lord it ain’t easy sometimes. Lol

    I will however try to again use that approach.


  9. @Fortyacresandamule

    What is positive about the Jamaica experience in recent months fueling the reported success the government has achieved is bringing all stakeholders together to achieve agreed goals.


  10. But, as we return to normality

    @Hal
    What is normal? The old normal has now become abnormal.

    No disciplined society will allow this to happen
    What is a central bank but a collection of private interests controlling certain aspects of a state’s macro-economy.

    Will you allow Zuckerberg to control all the data about your life, including your spending habits?

    Newsflash!
    Unless you currently take active measures to stop it, Google already has enough information about you to create a very accurate profile of you. Your interests, your spending habits, travels, what you read, political persuasion, religion, etc.


  11. @ Dullard

    Would you feel safe signing a contract for repayment with a ” disaster clause in it.?”

    Simple yes or no answer is all that is required.


  12. John A.

    All storms are not considered ” a disaster event” just letting you know since you seems to be ignorant to what is a disaster event.

    Don’t try diverting me to no damn contract in any attempt to hide your ignorance or your trying to score political points based on party loyalty


  13. If BLP in powuh – YES. If DLP – NO

    LOLOL


  14. There is a universal definition for what is a national disaster.

  15. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Keep slavishly and FOOLISHLY following all these crypto scams and the vulnerable islands will continue to end up where they have for decades following SCAMS THE USUAL CRIMINALS CONTINUE TO INVENT….in the last week alone i have seen at least 6 new ones…all meant to keep the vulnerable in poverty.

    “Facebook announces Libra cryptocurrency: All you need to know
    Josh Constine
    @JoshConstine / 10 hours ago

    Facebook has finally revealed the details of its cryptocurrency, Libra, which will let you buy things or send money to people with nearly zero fees. You’ll pseudonymously buy or cash out your Libra online or at local exchange points like grocery stores, and spend it using interoperable third-party wallet apps or Facebook’s own Calibra wallet that will be built into WhatsApp, Messenger and its own app. Today Facebook released its white paper explaining Libra and its testnet for working out the kinks of its blockchain system before a public launch in the first half of 2020.

    Facebook won’t fully control Libra, but instead get just a single vote in its governance like other founding members of the Libra Association, including Visa, Uber and Andreessen Horowitz, which have invested at least $10 million each into the project’s operations. The association will promote the open-sourced Libra Blockchain and developer platform with its own Move programming language, plus sign up businesses to accept Libra for payment and even give customers discounts or rewards.”


  16. @ Dullard

    Lol Lord have mercy don’t tell me you growing feathers now too! You know if you ask too many questions you is a D though?

    Anyhow I following you advice!


  17. @ Dullard,

    So Google has lots of data on us already (by the way that is not universally true) does that mean you see no problem in having them control global finance?
    Central banks act in the interest of the state, Facebook is a listed firm perversely dominated by one man.


  18. LOL@d Dillard

    Agreed everyone situation is different. But JOHN A seem to think because he can see it this or that way then that how it must be.


  19. If u SEEMS not to be in his camp you are either a political yardfowl or free education was lost on you. He and his likes are the only ones than can think freely.


  20. @ David.

    You too missing my point. It is for both parties to agree on the inclusion of this clause such that it exempts the debt holder from their liability to pay. If the lender says sorry I am not willing to agree on that clause, you could bring 20 English professors to the table it will make no difference.

    In the case of Puerto Rico which we like to refer to, they were hit with a devastating hurricane in the middle of their process, yet it did not stop the negotiations or final settlement.

    We have already put ourselves in a negative light by defaulting I think that ” disaster clause ” to the foreign creditor, does little to inspire confidence in light of our situation. In my view it should be removed from the contracts completely.

    It just opens all kind of doubts as to what one may consider a disaster and at what point legally does extreme damage say from weather become a disaster.

    In other words is it to be based on a dollar value in damage, the period of disruption of services for example or what other formula?

    Just one more clause that will make the creditors uncomfortable that’s all it is.


  21. The Indian-American community has grown by 38 per cent between 2010 and 2017, according to SAALT. About 250000 Indians overstayed their visas in 2016, according to the survey. If the community continues to grow at this rate this may pose another social problems for the US in future.


  22. @John A

    No point missed. Unless you are privy to the wedge issues at the negotiating table it is a guessing game.


  23. David this whole thing seems to be a guessing game as we are being asked to blindly buy into something that little has been shared with us on and when we ask questions we are told ” we can’t discuss that as we are in discussions.”

    Yet the creditors seem more willing to share information with the foreign press where we then in turn get our information from?

    You don’t as a bajan see something wrong in principle with that?


  24. @John A

    These are hard negotiations taking place, the creditors are not sharing information out of any obligation to be transparent. It is to shape the narrative around the issue.


  25. David
    You are only saying that because of your political loyality.

    That guy don’t want to haer anything that is not aligned to his thinking


  26. @ John 2

    Quite the contrary I am willing to listen to any point as long as it is grounded in financially sound reasoning and fact. I don’t care about party or any other triviality. David and I have discussed many issues using this criteria, it is only when it sways from those guidelines I remove myself from the discussion. I also have always tried to look at all situations from both sides and this case is not different. You can’t arrive at a fair overview unless you put yourself in both people’s shoes and are willing to recognise shortfalls where they exist.

  27. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    fortyacresandamule June 18, 2019 11:59 AM

    @David. The reason Jamaica has become the poster child of IMF austerity measures is because it is the first time in Jamaica’s history the country has managed to achieve macroeconomic stabilty. To be fair, this is a massive accomplishment by the government of Jamaica given where they are coming from.

    @WilliamSkinner . I repeat. It’s the first time in Jamaica’s independent history that it has tick so many boxes from a macroeconomy perspective. Jamaica experience high economic growth in the 50’s and 60’s… never to be duplicated again. Even Lee Kwan Hue was so impressed ………

    You first stated it was the first time in Jamaica’s history

    Then you came back and said : its the first time in Jamaicas “independent” history. Jamaica became independent in August 1962.

    So which is it ? is it in Jamaica’s history or “independent ” history.

    Like I said your submission was patently inaccurate and littered with contradictions And furthermore how can you magically repeat

    something you never said in the first place.

    You will soon learn that the IMF will declare the operation successful while the hymns are being sung at the funeral. The same fate awaits our country.


  28. @John A

    Yo repeat the point, unless we are made privy to the agenda points between WO and creditors we are speculating. Further, two parties can agree to any mutually acceptable agreement. It is obviously a tough negotiation and whether we agree with the decision to SD one must admire the government for fighting for the best deal. Of course a proud people that we are would want to have avoided a SD. Like you patriotic Bajans want the deal closed and to move on.


  29. @William

    You are aware Jamaica and Barbados became voluntary members of the IMF for a reason?


  30. @ David.

    To a point I agree with you but there is a lack of general information being shared with us by our government, let me explain.

    In today’s press there was an outline of the offers being made in detail by government to the foreign creditors agreed?

    Yet there was no article published or statement made by our government as to the offer that the creditors made to us , why was that?

    All that we were told is ” their offer would of meant we would of reached our goal 12 months later.”

    How could that possible be good enough to us when you only are willing to share your offer but not theirs? Don’t come with no excuse about negotiations ongoing either, cause you were quite willing to share your offer for all to see, so why not publish theirs too?

    No worry it will probably show up on Bloomberg Financial soon and I will read it there.


  31. @John A

    Expect the creditors to respond. The Barbados government obviously has decided to play the game.

    Stay tuned.

  32. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David

    All I did was point out several inaccuracies regarding Jamaica. It’s futile trying to convince me that the IMF policies work. At best there are nothing but new paint on old wood.
    You and others will soon hear that they are working here as well. In the meantime people bring tossed out of work; the rich being given excessive tax breaks; water bills up in the air and cost of living rising as well. Have a meeting with all those who have been retrenched. Go and tell them how well the policies working. While you are at it try to find some money that you owe because of default. Almost forgot the increase in bus fares. Talking about macro this and micro that, never put food on anybody’s table.
    No where in the world where the IMF went ever recovered. All that happened was that trade unions were destroyed; workers at the bottom were retrenched and the rich got richer.

    Good luck


  33. @ those that are pushing the Puerto Rico factor.

    May I remind you that Puerto Rico is not a sovereign state/ country.

    In the event of a natural disaster the federal government of the USA will provide aid/assistance (of all kinds including financial).

    Barbados is a sovereign country an has to “brek fuh itself” financially in the aftermath of a “disaster event”.

    IMO it is very wise of the Barbados government to try “to cover our asses” in the possibility of such an event occurring here.

    Those that are hitting out at this clause and trying to tie it to Puerto Rico is totally misguided.

    Raise your had John A !


  34. @William

    The point is we turn to the IMF because of an inability to manage our affairs. For Barbados it is all about defending the peg at any cost.


  35. William

    Barbados when to the IMF and recovered.
    We are to blame for being back there not them (IMF).


  36. @ John A June 18, 2019 4:47 PM
    “Yet there was no article published or statement made by our government as to the offer that the creditors made to us , why was that?”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    What “intelligent” Bajans also ought to be demanding from their pretend transparency-loving government are the purposes for which these loans were taken out.

    Were these foreign loans taken out to build infrastructural capacity to support socio-economic development or were they taken out to shore up the balance of payments in order for the lasciviously materialistic Bajans to go on their annual Xmas shopping jaunts especially the OSA years of make-beleive manna and false years of plenty?

    Why should these former foreign sugar-daddies be easy on Bim while Bajans continue to sleep with the devil of conspicuous consumption using the pseudo Viagra of materialism on hire purchase from the IMF loan shark?


  37. @ Miller

    Good point yes after all we were promised transparency.

  38. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ John A

    Barbados borrowed money to survive and indulge in the same poor economic policies of catering to the wealthy and ignoring the rising poverty .
    In other words there was no recovery. We simply borrowed money and paid it back.
    Today it’s the same process only at a higher grade. This time the Default is included.
    So I ask: Recovery from what?
    Operation successful; patient on way to the morgue.

  39. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ John A

    You have tried. You have stated your position. I believe your views have made a difference. Just bear in mind you are not here to win an argument. This is a zero sum game.

  40. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ Miller at 5:17 PM

    You are something else and a piece ‘pon top.


  41. @ Vincent

    I will try as you say to walk away from futile discussions. Maybe I better start using your ZR approach.lol


  42. @ William

    Yes when you look at it from the outside it looks that way. We borrow to pay off debts then we run up New debts.

    That can only happen if after we pay off our debts we continue to spend more than we make going forward. The question is who will step in and say ” look this is our income and as a result from today we will only sell that.”

  43. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @WilliamSkinner. Stop splitting hairs. You know what I meant, but instead you choose to dwell on triviality. If I was alluding to the whole economic history of Jamaica I would have to start from spanish colonization (1505) and that would make no sense. It is only after independence that credible, and robust macroeconomic data become available.


  44. Sorry spend not sell


  45. @John A

    We have only ourselves to blame.


  46. William

    We differ on what I am thinking your meaning of recovering from the IMF/ its policies.

    We cannot blame our economic conditions on the IMF.

    My take of what you had said was that any country who goes to the IMF does not recover ( because of the IMF policies).
    But what you are saying is that they still continue with THEIR failed policies that’s why they are not recovering.

    Therefore I stand by my statement as far as Barbados is concerned:
    Blame US for not recovering, not the IMF.


  47. @ David.

    Yes you are so correct on that. Thing is though who will draw the line in the sand after all this is over and say from now on we live by our income?

    For example will government say ok for the year coming we are allocating 10 million to the importation of cars no more?

    It’s just an an example above but this is the type of approach that would have to be adopted. I don’t know if any government here is ready to do that yet..


  48. William

    Would you say the USA recovered?

    just curious


  49. @John A

    Will the real leaders stand up?


  50. A

    Didn’t the government say it is not borrowing for the next four years?
    You are not getting what you , a complete stop, but……..

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