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Prime Minister Theresa May suffered an embarrassing defeat to her BREXIT package in parliament yesterday and will likely face a no Confidence motion later today. If she survives the no confidence motion she will have 70 days before the default clause kicks in to boot the UK from the EU.

What are her options? There is the obvious which is to ask for a delay. Another referendum seems silly. What is ominous for the Tories is that the business sector has separated itself from government’s position.

Across the globe there is a common trend; chaos – the inability of the political class to form partnerships, build coalitions to practice conflict resolutions to arrive at compromise positions.

David, blogmaster


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It would require a Water Diviner, a top Senegalese Marabout, an Obeah woman from Benin and a Bajan Bushman, acting in unison, for Theresa Mary May to avoid her fate after the Brexit Deal is voted-down, on Tuesday, in the House of ‘Commons’.

We witnessed firsthand, on June 23, 2016, the British peoples in their majority voting to leave the European Union (EU) – approximately 52% to 48%. The referendum, promised by David Cameron, was a response to the overarching and historic dictatorial tendencies emanating from Brussels but also represented a reassertion of Whiteness and innate neo-fascist tendencies. It has now set a series of processes in place the enormity of which are having the unforeseen consequences few could have imagined.

And, we must admit, that the politics are very difficult on all sides. The main actors are the European Union (EU), the Conservative Party and their coalition partner, (the DUP) and the main opposition Labour Party.

May is facing all manner of rebellion within her ranks. The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) a far-right, terrorist fringe has called for her resignation. In addition, she faces nay-votes from up to 100 of her own conservative colleagues. These include a number of pretenders to the primeministership – Jacob Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnson, el al.

Not even the last-minute suggestion of a second referendum as part of her proposals to parliament is likely to be sufficient to galvanize enough support from a difficult coalition of conservatives, the DUP, the Blairist labour MPs, and others, to save May’s Brexit Deal. These suggest a most likely ‘Brexit without a deal’, given the calendar and assuming all other political forces ‘remain’ equal, no pun intended.

The man who could be British prime minister by Christmas, Jeremy Corbyn, also has long-running discord within the ranks of the Labour Party with Tony Blair loyalists and ‘EU remainers’ like Chuka Umunna continuing to provide Corbyn with all manner of contrived hurdles include the accusation that Corbyn was an anti-Semite. What a canard!

The EU for its part faces growing geopolitical and internal crises which together may suggest its beginning of the end. However, its outward determination presents a stalwartness aimed at keeping the troops (other EU countries) in line by shooting a general, the UK, in a public place. They, the EU, are unyielding. Suggesting that no other Brexit deal than that already negotiated with Theresa May will be possible after a no-vote in the ‘Commons’, as a further constraint to popular perceptions about sovereignty.

Of course, the sub-plots are the issues relating to Scotland, the re-unification of Ireland, the rekindling of relationships with former colonial possessions, international trading arrangements with major countries etc. All of these are casting uncertainty about the future for both ‘little’ and ‘big’ England. Even in May’s Brexit Deal issues pertaining to the Customs Union, borders, nationality and others ‘remain’ unclear.

We present three (3) possible scenarios that are likely to end this crisis in the short term, though politics pretends to be about making the impossible, possible, some say. These are all predicated on the assumption that Theresa May will be defeated in the House of ‘Commons’ tomorrow.

First, that a general election will be called and that Labour will win but that Corbyn would continue to find Brexiting a difficult proposition. This explains his well-known tactic of neither fully supporting nor fully opposing Brexit in principle.

Second, that the coalition led by May will force her resignation and that one of the pretenders mentioned earlier will assume its leadership. In these circumstances, we see no overt determination to leave the EU if staying remains slightest possibility. This will be a win for Brussels.

Third, and this is the most unlikely scenario, that a radical transplantation occurs in British politics. With this, we ‘may’ see Blairist forces within Labour join with EU ‘remainers’ in the Conservative Party and others to form a new ruling bloc.

As the political undertakers plane the wood for May’s coffin the leading pallbearers, on all sides, are marshalling their forces to be the first at body. Still, it remains uncertain who will get to control the carcass, and what it will mean to be British for the peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic.


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508 responses to “The Rise And Fall of Brexit”


  1. David

    Thanks for featuring this issue. It remains unfathomable for us how the problems surrounding are not pregnant with signposts for other regions.

    People who still, even to this day, would claim that their bloodlines are within the tribes of those in the British isles. No such claims to Africa, of course.

    Yet those same miscreants insist on the erection of some fictitious notions of a nonexistent ‘Caribbean nation’.

    Maybe Barrow’s edict that Harold Crichlow was an ‘unfinished product’ has relevance to them as well.


  2. @Pacha

    Many cloak the various arguments in heavy parochialism. It is of interest to some the extent to which cultural relativism has jumped national boundaries.

  3. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Pacha..believe it o not, it comes with benefits…but….the images and thoughts of what it portends needs to be STEAMLINED…particularly in anticipation….by those who can see…. of windrush 2 and all the criminality lies and mischief attached….

    ….very, very hard to do in those who have been BRAINWASHED…into LOVING their own self inflicted sense of inferiority…for the last 60 years…via the british designed miseducation system…

    think on it…..

  4. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Is it not SWEET…to move past the level of the likes of John still living in darkness ….and the continuing threat to African descended people…..that we can ALL…those who are awake…NOW PLAINLY SEE.

  5. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    It is very clear that Barbados and the Caribbean as a whole do not need any more bible and shakespearean BRAINWASHED, MENTALLY ENSLAVED, WEAK LEADERS…to lead them..

    ….nor does Barbados need any of Cow and Bizzy’s little black boys and girls leading them either…THEY ARE TOXIC…the worst off the enslaved minds…as we see in one of the online papers today….the attempt to place one of Bizzy’s black boys in the parliament..

    the trick..is FORCING them to SEE…that they have those BENEFITS I talked of earlier…within in them..to avoid what is ahead…

  6. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Beside…if UK had not STOLEN my dual UK citizenship…KARMA WOULD NOT HAVE BROUGHT ME BACK..

    lol, lol..


  7. A one Caribbean Nation is not a bad idea.. It is feasible. What is required is to avoid the pitfalls other collective groupings have and are encountering.

    Any collective groupings’ mandate should be that of resource management and facilitators for development with integration being the common goal throughout all aspects of each.


  8. Correction
    ….Each.
    should have been Enterprise.


  9. MRs May should fire her political advisers/strategists and particularly her public relations consultants. they have done a very poor job to allow this issue not of her own making to be placed upon her back. Mrs May voted to remain and it was those weasels led by the scalliwag Boris Johnson who campaigned for the break to come up with a plan and not Mrs May.

  10. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    And if yall think this is some KINDA joke that ya can REMAIN happily pretending ya are the mentally enslaved pleasing ya racist MASTERS and will not feel the consequences yaselves EVENTUALLY…..think again….CAUSE THERE ARE LITERALLY OVER 60 MILLION OF THOSE DEMONS IN UK.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/16/police-investigate-racist-death-threats-bristol-mayor-marvin-rees

    “One threat sent to mayor Marvin Rees and his deputy Asher Craig through Facebook referred to the Labour MP Jo Cox, who was killed a week before the Brexit referendum in 2016. Another threat was sprayed on the pavement outside Rees’s house late on Friday night. It read: “Marvin must die.”

    Both incidents are being treated as racially aggravated harassment. Avon and Somerset police said a 27-year-old has been arrested and released on bail.”


  11. If May’s new and continuing departures from ‘constitutional norms’ are not troubling we wonder what could be.

    Yesterday’s resounding defeat, traditionally, would have meant her immediate resignation and the calling of general elections.

    We have now had a British government soundly defeated on the centerpiece of policy more than once.

    Those who hold on to Westminster systems should come to wonder the extent to which we remain within the province of western democratic traditions.

    We would want to suggest that May’s actions, over time, are, like Trump el al, more consistent with those likened to another systems so long hated, titularly, by the court jesters of democracy.

    Is this the beginning of the end of White, western rulership? We certainly hope so!

  12. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “Those who hold on to Westminster systems should come to wonder the extent to which we remain within the province of western democratic traditions.”

    Are LOSERS…and WILL LOSE AGAIN.

    Listen to this video again..very carefully, he is telling us what is happening….AND WHY..

    https://youtu.be/5DgBqYkcxZs


  13. @ Pacha
    Is this the beginning of the end of White, western rulership? We certainly hope so!
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Trust you to see the obvious ….
    ..even if no one else seems able to perceive the clear signs…

    This is the beginning of the long predicted ‘reparations’ of which Bob Marley sang many years ago…
    in “We and Them.”
    …now we know “how they will have to pay for the innocent blood…..”
    (not in any shiite dollars …like Sir Cave was hoping, but in much more expensive currency….

    That May has not resigned speaks VOLUMES about her
    …as does Trump’s actions and character speak about him.

    They both have ZERO personal integrity or shame…
    as would be expected of agents of the dark one….
    It is NOT in their spiritual make-up…. to be ‘so’ principled

    Their roles are to lead the end of the albino-centric dispensation ..
    ….at the hands of even more despotic animals to come.

    The ‘last trump’ now will be the replacement of the US dollar as the
    currency for petro-trade…
    When that happens,….
    Dog dead.

    Grass….


  14. Waru

    See, many do not want to face the reality of the exploitation current in Administrations on the black populations, and like Pacha foresight, there will be a sudden shift and demise.


  15. take a deep breathe…..lol you watch the eu come back with a new deal, if not so what ..the brits were looking for a deal when they found that one. But as BT said you guys cant even fix a 70s bus so what are you doing reading the news and getting all torqued up. The great thing about having nothing is that this doesnt affect you so sit back relax and have a rum.

  16. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Was that Ottawa gold…Kush, Lawson..eh!!

    lol


  17. No Waru I hate panic….as baron rothchild said the time to buy is when there is blood in the streets….so when everyone is panicking some people will hold there nerve and come out okay , Give it about a year for the brit money to dry up and land prices will drop and you may be able to get back on the island.

  18. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    lol..thanks for the advice…

    but all the talk, ah know ya ain’t going anywhere near UK..ya see the expression on the faces of those there BEASTS..

  19. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    A few decades ago, the province of Quebec wanted to separate from Canada. Unlike marital divorces, in which society has much experience and precedence, (and still much negotiation/court rulings), country divorces are more rare. Beyond the emotional rhetoric back then, nobody wished to tackle the HOW and WHAT. Nobody involved wished to tackle the big issues, like what happens to the CPP (pension) for Quebecers, and the cost to them of facilities built by Canada. Brexit has followed this type of path. As I watched one parliamentarian after another interviewed, they could say whether they were for/against the “May deal”, but none had an alternate deal they were confident would pass a Commons vote.

    Eight years after Africa’s largest country split, Sudan, they are still negotiating separation. A January 2011 referendum, which was less than clear, resulted in a July split, with minimal agreement between the two sides on terms. Many will say it was an emotional split, caused by almost constant war since independence, and a populace split along tribal and religious lines.

    And even trade deals, focus on the marriage and not any future divorce. Hence, I doubt there can be a negotiated Brexit. You just split, and then negotiate piecemeal as the issues arise. Not ideal, just how these matters tend to play out.


  20. NorthernObserver

    On point.
    The EU need to reevaluate the concerns raised by the Brits and others for a Continuum.


  21. @Nine of nine,

    Plse explain.

  22. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Really Ha, Ha…you live in UK and need someone else to explain these things to you…really.

  23. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @WW&C
    so how many countries were you a citizen of….four? Or did you just extend your visitors visa LOL


  24. The prime minister survived the no confidence vote and she will make a statement at 6pm local time.


  25. N.O. 4 countries how many planets


  26. Can anybody say what Labour wants?

    Does he want a second referendum?

    Does he want a general election?

    What the hell does he want?


  27. exactly….. same as dems in states its easy to condemn but neither have a viable alternative all they want is power will worry about content later


  28. It is really nice pontificating from 3000 miles informed only by reading the BBC or some failed newspaper website. What we need on BU is someone explaining in simple terms what is going on in the UK.

  29. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “Or did you just extend your visitors visa LOL”

    I thought was only US required visitors visas..where the hell have you been living…what visa did you need for Canada..outside of a student visa…I don’t think Bajans need a via for Europe, did they not get rid of the Schengden or whatever.

    you will find Caribbean people with multiple citizenships..don’t you have 2…well some have 3…lol

  30. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    All that complicated, manmade crap is what will cause our worldwide citizenship to manifest AGAIN…just like before man in all his ugly decided that he is master over other people and started to TIEF EVERYTHING IN SIGHT.


  31. Hal dont you live in the uk lol but here it is in simple terms …cant trade with states in new agreement, piss off belgium we will trade with whoever we phucking like, we beat the germans so dont dictate to us


  32. @ Lawson,

    You are so perceptive. I will recommend you to May for a job as an adviser.


  33. Hal my work educating Waru isnt finished yet, and also I had to become a citizen of canada to get a job I wanted after living there 25 years an economic refugee as it were


  34. David

    We know not why it’s alright to assume that writers here are 3000 miles away. Sometimes this writer could be 3, 30,300, 3000, 30000 or 300000 miles away.

    The point is that in an internet age neither one is any nearer or further away. In any event, the writer of this original piece did so as a witness of events.

    More to the point since he’s a so-called journalist, as has been said, maybe he could enlighten the blog from the reserves of his substantial simpleton’s knowledge.

  35. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    have 3…..or more. You ducked the first line of my comment LOL
    Actually I only have one. My Bajan passport expired, they gave me so much trouble to renew, I just gave up. They accept my tax returns and payments without any questions however LOL

  36. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @Lawson
    so for 25 years you didn’t vote?


  37. Correct but didn’t miss 25 years came as a boy but my father never became a a citizen and never voted


  38. @ Lawson,

    Some people accumulate citizenships like confetti.

  39. Sir Simple Simon, P.C. Avatar
    Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @David January 16, 2019 5:12 PM “Can anybody say what Labour wants? What the hell does he want?”

    To be the British Prime Minister within the EU.

    What else could it be?


  40. @ Simple Simon,

    You are wrong. Corbyn is a leftwing nationalist. Bennites hate the EU as much as the far right. Corbyn wants to be prime minister of Little England.

  41. Sir Simple Simon, P.C. Avatar
    Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @Hal Austin January 16, 2019 5:20 PM “What we need on BU is someone explaining in simple terms what is going on in the UK.”

    Agreed.

    And since you are right on the spot, and have been living in the UK for decades, I nominate you to do the explaining.

  42. Sir Simple Simon, P.C. Avatar
    Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @Hal Austin January 16, 2019 6:04 PM “@ Simple Simon, You are wrong.”

    Ok.

    Since I am 4,000 miles away, and haven’t gone to the U.K for more than a decade…


  43. @ Simple Simon,

    I am a very bad teacher. But sit down, and take your pen out and pay attention. Come to think of it, where are our constitutional experts, our political scientists, our keyboard warriors? May I suggest th UWI holds a public meeting explaining Brexit?
    Remember, Corbyn is more anti EU than the prime minister.


  44. There is nothing for Mrs May to embarrassed about. She was not the architect of Brexit but was against it. Those who should be embarrassed are those political weasels in her party who followed the scalliwag Boris Johnson down a path to nowhere. It is he and his stupid cohorts who should be made to come up with a plan or be guillotined. Mrs May should fire her advisors particularly her public relations consultants for allowing an albatross not of her own making to be a damocles sword upon her back

  45. Sir Simple Simon, P.C. Avatar
    Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    I asked a friend who has lived in the UK for decades, and this is the response “I can’t see an election being called. No Confidence? Yes. Election? No. The people from all sides who voted yesterday want to renegotiate. The EEC said, “no”. This is the problem. The EEC is a hard nut to crack. If there is an election and there is a good majority, the winning party might have a little more leverage, but not much. ”

    This friend voted Brexit in the referendum.

  46. Sir Simple Simon, P.C. Avatar
    Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    This opinion is good as of 1 o’clock GMT.

    May have changed since then.


  47. @ Simple Simon,

    Your friend is behind the times. It is now the EU. I hope your friend who voted Brexit is not a black person. There are a lot of nuances: whether we have a general election of not, whoever wins – Labour or Tories – wants out of the EU.
    Th EU is saying no because whatever is agreed must be unanimously agreed by 27 nations. Think about it. Further, to make it easy for the UK will only encourage Span, Italy, and other rogue members. The strategy is to make it as difficult so others will be put off.
    There is also an issue of personalities: we won’t have a general election because May won’t resign. Politics is her life, no children, no pets, a semi-detached husband, Philip – politics has been her life since studying geography at Oxford. Does that remind you of anyone?
    But there is a more important power struggle going on which is not often commented upon.

  48. Sir Simple Simon, P.C. Avatar
    Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @Charles Skeete January 16, 2019 6:14 PM “There is nothing for Mrs May to embarrassed about. She was not the architect of Brexit but was against it. ”

    We understand that Mrs. May was/is a Remainer.

    Which is why I have long felt that she ought to have resigned, once the referendum result came in and she saw that her people wanted to Brexit, while she wanted to Remain. I can’t imagine leading my people in a direction which I myself did not wish to go. But I have never been “in” politics.

    I am not familiar with British law on referenda, but I am wondering if it would not have been better if a referendum as important as the Brexit one had been done on the basis of a 2/3 majority.

  49. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “Corbyn wants to be prime minister of Little England.”

    ok..that explains everything..

    NO…sometimes the best laid plans…you can finish the rest

    …..and no wicked deed goes unpunished, no one anticipated it would work out like that, according to the yiddish proverb…man makes plans, the divine laughs…still trying to work out exactly who they stole that proverb.. from…lol


  50. @ Simple Simon,

    The prime minister at the time of the awful Referendum did resign – it was David Cameron.

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