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Is collusion a crime? Since the beginning of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, allegations of “collusion” have dominated the debate. President Trump regularly claims there was “no collusion” with the Russians seeking to influence the 2016 presidential election. His attorneys and other supporters also have repeatedly argued that even if collusion took place, that would not be criminal. But last week, in a case brought by Mueller, a federal judge upheld the legal theory under which “collusion” may indeed be a crime.

I’m not sure how the term “collusion” became so central to discussions of the Mueller investigation. It really should be banned altogether. (I know, I know — this from the guy who just wrote a blog post with “collusion” in the title, right? But hey, I can’t unilaterally disarm.) All it does is breed confusion and lead to diversionary arguments about whether collusion is criminal.

It’s true there is no criminal statute titled “collusion.” But as I’ve noted in several places (here and here, for example) the relevant crime is conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. 371. Collusion refers to an agreement with others to achieve some improper end. In criminal law, we call that a conspiracy – a partnership in crime. And the breadth of the federal conspiracy statute makes it particularly well-suited for cases like Mueller’s probe of Russian interference with the election.

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467 responses to “Collusion a Crime – Judge in Mueller Case Upholds Legal Theory”

  1. John Avatar
    John

    Women were the ones who had to wait longest to vote … and they had to fight for it!!

  2. lawson Avatar
    lawson

    It could be as simple as more people feel trumps policys have helped them and their state. People say things on here all the time that are hurtful but should that be the only thing we think of that person going forward bringing it up in every situation negating every other sensible thing they say. Or do we do a Waru and change your name hoping that stuff said in the past is forgotten..

  3. John Avatar
    John

    Whoever the DLP brought in St. John won regardless.

    This year the electorate twigged and St. John flipped!!

    In Mississippi, almost without exception, who ever the Democrats brought won in the pre Civil Rights Era.

    In the post Civil Rights era Mississippi flipped.

    These are facts!!

    Not only was Hyde-Smith the incumbent, she was also Republican.

    Trump was gravy!!

  4. John Avatar
    John

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/09/09/misunderstanding_the_southern_realignment_107084.html

    Interesting opinion.

    “The movement of the South toward the Republicans is not a story of a rapid realignment brought about by LBJ’s actions in the race debates of the 1960s. It was a slow, century-long process that began before LBJ was elected to Congress, that is still unfolding today and that, while driven in part by race, most certainly did not have “everything to do with race.””

  5. John Avatar
    John

    … and further

    “Did race still have something to do with it? Almost certainly. But you also can’t ignore that the South was by that point aligned with the national Republican Party on a wide expanse of issues relating to taxes, anti-communism, school prayer, abortion, the counterculture, Vietnam . . . the list goes on. Chalking everything up to the Civil Rights Act is overly simplistic, to the point of being incorrect.”

    The South changed from being Democrat to being Republican, this is a fact.

    The Democrats hate this because it conflicts with their façade of being the friends of the Blacks!!

  6. John Avatar
    John

    DPD

    You don’t even know the facts and still looking to argue … making a complete fool of yourself!!!!

  7. John Avatar
    John

    The South stayed Democrat because immediately after the Civil War, the vote was not universal and the Democrats owned the South.

  8. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @Lawson
    If you don’t like hearing the word “racist” perhaps you shouldn’t support those who enable racism and who are advocates for racist policies. As for Ms. Hyde-Smith she was the one who brought up public hangings (Mississippi code word for lynchings) she was the one who donned a Confederate uniform, she was the one who sent her daughter to a segregated school and she was the one who spoke of Mississippi “proud” history. That history includes being the State with the most lynching of blacks in the USA.

    If you don’t want to hear the word “racist” ask yourself why would Trump ask at a public event “Where does Mike Espy fit into Mississippi”? A man who is a descendant of slaves and who was a four time Congressman and a former US Secretary of Agriculture. The dog whistles are loud and clear I’m sure you heard them.

  9. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    The Party of Lincoln is more the party of Lincoln Rockwell and “John” you could ask Rush where he fits in.

  10. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    In domestic policy, Johnson designed the “Great Society” legislation to expand civil rights, public broadcasting, Medicare, Medicaid, aid to education, the arts, urban and rural development, public services and his “War on Poverty”. Assisted in part by a growing economy, the War on Poverty helped millions of Americans rise above the poverty line during his administration.[2] Civil-rights bills that he signed into law banned racial discrimination in public facilities, interstate commerce, the workplace and housing; the Voting Rights Act prohibited certain requirements in southern states used to disenfranchise African Americans. With the passage of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, the country’s immigration system was reformed, encouraging greater emigration from regions other than Europe. Johnson’s presidency marked the peak of modern liberalism after the New Deal era.

    (Extract from Wikipedia)

    The Democrats changed their ways. The white Mississippi lynchers did not. So they switched to the Republican Party. And there they have resided COMFORTABLY ever since.

    http://100photos.time.com/photos/emmett-till-david-jackson

    It’s been a long time coming…..

  11. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @John…when I say DISHONEST and DISSEMBLING you reinforce it automatically …WHEN I asked…”do you SERIOUSLY want …to believe the dishonest : “Clearly it once was Democrat and switched after the Civil Rights era…
    I don’t know why, perhaps African Americans in Mississippi figured out the Democrats were not their friends!!”….IT WAS NOT about southern US politics….GOOD LORD…that is CLEAR and can be distilled by ANY REASONABLE person.

    The lack of belief was the…“I don’t know why”….did you note it had the italic EMPHASIS in the original. SMH!

    John, for the hopefully last time…most everyone here can READ…some from their writings are very WELL READ..the history of Dem and Repub racial history in the south is PELLUCID…you are being exceedingly DISHONEST as you frame the debate…OBVIOUSLY there was a SWITCH…stop showing such blatant feinged stupidity on the why’s and wherefores and what is says of the modern Republican party.

    Not all republicans are racists as not all Blacks are supporters of the democratic party…but as your snippet above alluded to…lots of racists have taken the republican party as their home….for the record, as white supremacists activist are to the republican party, so are black power activists to the democratic party…it is WHAT IT IS.

    Your retort…The Democrats hate this because it conflicts with their façade of being the friends of the Blacks!!… is utter absurdity.

    What is there to hate if one is a current member of the democratic party!

    Stop with the BS false (stupid) narrative of the US south…your blather cant change the reality that white racists in the south IN PARTICULAR BOLTED the democratic party when their leaders moved to the forefront of Black civil rights legislation in the 1960s….it’s not a simple dynamic obviously as the change evolved over years and involved various social issues (like the fact that Lincoln himself was never really a VIGOROUS abolitionist) but that BASIC FACT is indisputable.

    Enough of this. Gone.gone.

  12. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Oh…😂😂😂…I just saw your retort…*You don’t even know the facts and still looking to argue … making a complete fool of yourself!!!!”

    As I said above classic alternate universe Trumpian PR…bro if YOU can accuse me of NOT KNOWING THE FACTS…then I laff uproariously …surely can’t ‘laugh’ at that level of absurdity.

    Amazing. .. when defeated lash out with folly. 😂…well done !

  13. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @John
    Mississippi switched to Republican after the Civil Rights era!!
    This is a fact
    +++++++++++
    Yes, and did you ever ask why? Democrats under Lyndon Johnson supported the Civil Rights Bill while Barry Goldwater and the Republicans were opposed.

  14. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Bushie,

    I am not and have NEVER been kept in line by ANY man. I have hardly met a man I didn’t disagree with. Now I KNOW you don’t believe that I would mash up things round here.

    I know it is hard for a man of your age but you need to get that Adam and Eve Bible slant into perspective.. What design what! God would have had to make a mistake with me then because I can see all OF THE MEN’S FOOLISHNESS THAT HAS BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT. The world has NEVER been run well. NEVER! AND YOU GUY’S HAVE BEEN IN CHARGE FOR ALL OF IT!

    ALL!

  15. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    GUYS

  16. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    These are the Trump endorsed GOP candidates.

    “It is not slavery. It’s about our heritage.” But if their heroes are Lee and Jackson who were fighting to keep slavery then how are they not celebrating slavery? If this heritage is “THEIR IDENTITY” are they not still slave owners at heart?

    If I celebrate the day that I had an abortion or according to most Republican’s “killed my unborn child” by having a party could I then claim to be “pro-life?” However, if I commemorated that that day with sackcloth and ashes then one could say I have owned my personal history and am now “pro-life”

    WARU, we gotta get that man on your video to explain this. You know the one I’m talking about.

  17. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Forgot the video.

    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/13/17458452/alt-right-corey-stewart-virginia-gop

    And there are many more of them resting snugly in the arms of the GOP.

  18. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Wait a minute! If blacks make up 40% of the electorate and Espy got 44% how does that extrapolate to a whole lot of Uncle Toms??????

  19. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    WHATS ALL THE FUSS ABOUT DIS MAWNING?

    the woman just destroyed her opponent 56 to 44

    like um or lump um
    no need to rant and rave in the rum shop
    um done

  20. John Avatar
    John

    The Democrats changed their ways. The white Mississippi lynchers did not.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The lynchers were Democrats!!!!!

  21. John Avatar
    John

    Maybe now is a good time to repeat D’Souza on LBJ ….

    But even more priceless is LBJ on his “bunghole and nuts” when ordering some pants!!

  22. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    The operative word is “WERE.” They WERE Democrats. Now they ARE Republicans.

    What about that is so hard for a Barbados scholar to understand?

    Present tense “are” (That means now.)

    Past tense “were” (That meant before the civil rights act was passed.)

    G.P.

    Nobody expected her to lose. After all, it IS Mississippi. She dog whistled and the dogs heard.

    By the way,

    She has heard how happy you are that she’s won and she has a present for you. You may collect it by the nearest poplar tree.

  23. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    John,

    Let me make it easy for you.

    The Democratic Party officials changed their ways. The VOTERS did not. They joined the Republican Party in protest. And there they have remained. And, as would quite naturally be the case, they have since voted in Republican OFFICIALS in their own likeness. They have remade the Republican Party in their image.

  24. Gabriel Avatar
    Gabriel

    Conventional wisdom indicates Trump is garrisoned and going bonkers…standby for fireworks..

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/sensing-defeat-trump-cries-witch-hunt?ref=home

  25. John Avatar
    John

    This may help you Donna

  26. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    JOHN
    YA HAVE TO LIKE THE MAN!
    https://truedaily.news/2018/11/28/trumps-shocking-tweet-against-the-swamp/

  27. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    COME ON FELLAS

    PLEASE KINDLY UP YOUR TRUMP BASHING SOME MORE PLEASE!

    PLEASE DO SO WITH MORE EMOTION AND MORE FERVENTLY PLEASE!

    TANK U PLEASE.

  28. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    JOHN

    HERE IS A VERY TRUE WORD FROM YOUR FRIEND RUSH

    ‘It’s only going to get worse’: Rush Limbaugh predicts Democrats, media will ramp up attacks on Trump
    November 27, 2018

    Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh warned Monday that the establishment is planning a massive effort to take down President Donald Trump now that the Democrats have won control of the House. Trump and his base have no idea what’s coming when the Democrats officially assume power of the lower chamber in January, Limbaugh said.

    “I don’t think people have, even those who think they know, I don’t think you have the slightest idea what’s coming next January and on after that, after the Democrat Congress is sworn in, the Democrat House, I don’t think anybody has any idea,” Limbaugh said.

    Rush warns of establishment coup
    Still unable to accept the result of an election from two years ago, the media and establishments of both parties are licking their chops now that the Democrats have taken back control of the House. Democrats made getting Trump’s tax returns a top priority within moments of reclaiming the House earlier this month, and Democratic committeemen have promised to harass his administration with subpoenas and investigations.

    To make matters more urgent, Rush said that the Democrats will get help from establishment Republicans who want Trump out of the White House. Rush singled out Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) as a Republican turncoat, possibly because of statements that Gowdy made over the weekend about wanting to investigate Ivanka Trump’s e-mails.

    Rush predicted that a group of 20 or so Democratic and Republican committeemen, including Gowdy, Reps. Adam Schiff (D-CA) and Jerry Nadler (D-NY), will go after Trump with every subpoena they’ve got to obstruct his administration.

    “I mean, Nadler says we’re gonna look at taxes, we’re gonna look at tax returns, we’re gonna look at Trump’s wealth and what relationship it has to Russia and Putin. We’re gonna look at everything,” he explained, adding:

    And I’m just warning you that there are more Republicans than you know that are gonna eagerly join Democrat efforts. There’s all kinds of Republicans on every one of these committees.

    Democrats eager for Mueller report, impeachment
    Rush said that many people have expressed disbelief to him about the organized hatred against the president from the media and both parties, but added that it was important for conservatives to wake up to the leftist threat because “this onslaught is not gonna end. It’s only gonna get worse.”

    Turning to Robert Mueller’s investigation, Rush said that elites in both parties are eagerly waiting for the “Witch Hunt” to deliver a report laying out impeachable offenses. The Washington, D.C. “swamp” is still furious that Trump won the election and wants him gone.

    “This is not anything but I’m just trying to prepare you for it, for when it kicks up, because you’re gonna find a whole lot of Republicans signing on to what the Democrats do, because most of the people in that town despise Trump, despise the fact that he won, have not been able to get over it, have not been able to accept the election results 2016,” Limbaugh said, adding, “They’re waiting with bated breath on the Mueller report. They can’t wait. They’re so excited.”

    Rush said that Mueller’s report doesn’t need to be true for the president’s enemies to use it, just damaging for Trump.

    Rush said that Nancy Pelosi, who has pushed back against impeachment and is expected to take the Speaker’s gavel, may have no choice but to pursue impeachment if Mueller writes a false but damning report. Limbaugh explained:

    [Mueller] can write a report making Trump look like the biggest doofus that ever walked the earth. He can write a report making Trump look like the most dumb, vulnerable, naive president we’ve ever had. He can write a report saying the election of Donald Trump and the Trump campaign opened the door for the Russians to have whatever they wanted in the United States. Yeah. All he has to do is write a report that says something like that. With no evidence.

    Legal expert Alan Dershowitz similarly predicted over the weekend that the Mueller report will be “devastating” to Trump. “[Mueller]’s not going to be fair. He’s going to produce what he believes is going to be a devastating attack,” Dershowitz said again on Fox News. “They’re going to put together every bit of evidence and present a mosaic which points to the White House, the Oval Office, the president.”

    Limbaugh said that the Democrats will look for anything they can to impeach Trump, but they don’t need to actually pursue impeachment to force Trump out of office, only threaten to do so. He predicted that the establishment will isolate the president by poaching off members of his party until, like Richard Nixon, he has two choices: face impeachment, or step down. Limbaugh said:

    There’s about 20 of ’em [congressional leaders], folks, that are going to be devoted to doing nothing but getting rid of Donald Trump. Not by way of impeachment, by the way. They’re going to try to do it by forcing every Republican in the Congress, House and Senate, that they can to abandon Trump.

    They are going to try to establish circumstances where some senator, some member of Congress is going to one day have to make a fateful trip to the White House to tell President Trump that he’s lost all support and that he’s got two choices: He can either resign or undergo the impeachment process. That’s what they did with Nixon. They made sure Nixon had no support for an eventual impeachment or for anything else.

    Rush predicted that the media will ramp up misleading coverage of the “caravan” before January. “This entire Christmas season, the media is gonna be devoted to finding examples via video and still shot photography of the Trump administration being mean to kids,” he said. “They’ll use these caravan migrants and so forth, any other number of examples. It’s gonna be brutal, folks, because they think they’re getting close now.”

    “It’s God-awful shameful what the media and the Democrat Party are trying to do to this man, Donald Trump, for having done nothing more than beat them in an election,” Limbaugh said.

  29. John Avatar
    John

    “If the Democrats think they are going to waste Taxpayer Money investigating us at the House level, then we will likewise be forced to consider investigating them for all of the leaks of Classified Information, and much else, at the Senate level.

    Two can play that game!” Trump said. The senate will investigate all the leaking done by the Democrats!!!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Elijah Cummins, the Chairman of the Congressional Black Caucasians said yesterday the Democrats will go after substance, not subpoenas!!

    Probably figured out Trump will do as he says!!

    Here is Rush Limbaugh on it yesterday!!

    https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/11/27/democrats-to-focus-on-substance-not-subpoenas/

    Sounds like Trump having a ball!!

    Greatest show on earth!!

  30. charles skeete Avatar
    charles skeete

    “Robert D.Lucas November 24, 2018 8:27 AM

    Whilst I am at it, the blog members might to research Mueller’s activity when he was district attorney in Massachusetts and the scandal he was involved with the FBI and the gangster Whitey Bulger.
    Robert D. Lucas”

    Mr Lucas, you are trodding a dead horse. Those suffering from Trump derangement system are only interested in anti Trump rhetoric and will not research any information that will give Trump credit for anything.

  31. John Avatar
    John

  32. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Didn’t listen to the first one. Don’t listen to anything from you anymore.

    P.S. If you really believe the crap you tout then you are beyond help.

  33. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Meanwhile Mueller closes in on “Elvis” and his gang.

  34. charles skeete Avatar
    charles skeete

    @Donna

    Despite any success that Steele had as Republican Chair he was never really accepted into the fold, they elected him as a reaction to Obama’s success, it was their way of saying “look at us we have a black leader too”, and they jettisoned him at the first opportunity in favour of Reince Priebus.

    Nonsense Every time the Republicans appoint a black to a prominent position; he is vilified as an uncle Tom.Was Colin Powell’s appointment a reaction as well.

  35. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    G.P.

    We have no need for anger. All is well. Trumpy on the other hand seems VERY GRUMPY! Wuhlaus!

  36. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    There is such a thing as a token black. I understand even the high school Hyde-Smith attended had ONE.

    Wuhlaus!

  37. Gabriel Avatar
    Gabriel

    Charles
    Colin Powell was made to choke on TV backing the imaginary weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and which we all knew was a nefarious lie..He was bullied in the back ground by Bush,Cheney and Rumsfeld to go on national TV and announce the rationale for the start of hostilities.He knew it was a lie and it was obvious he was threatened.

  38. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    wuh you expect? the man dont even know how to pronounce his name properly

    if a man knows he is asked to lie and still lie what does that say about him?

    why didnt he just go home and relax?

  39. John Avatar
    John

    Donna
    November 28, 2018 2:57 PM

    Didn’t listen to the first one. Don’t listen to anything from you anymore.
    P.S. If you really believe the crap you tout then you are beyond help.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If you don’t listen to what I post then how would you know what I really believe?

  40. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    re There is such a thing as a token black.
    TRUE!
    GOOD EXAMPLE IS SHITBAMA,

  41. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    https://leadpatriot.com/photo-of-caravan-mom-with-children-in-diapers-running-from-teargas-was-a-staged-hoax/356/?utm_source=TPC-%20newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=subscriber_id:2382530&utm_campaign=Photo%20of%20Caravan%20Mom%20With%20Children%20In%20Diapers%20Running%20From%20Teargas%20Was%20A%20Staged%20Hoax

    Photo of Caravan Mom With Children In Diapers Running From Teargas
    November 28, 2018

    The establishment media perpetrated a hoax on the world by pushing a story of migrant caravan folks fleeing from tear gas being shot at them at the U.S.-Mexico border, with a picture of what appears to be chaos, and in the picture is a perfect shot of a woman running for her life with her crying barefoot children in tow.

    Except, the entire thing was a setup, a made-up scene to tug at the heartstrings of Americans, and give ammunition to the ‘Open Borders’ crowd and the lawless Democratic Party that are fighting to abolish ICE and have open borders.

    Let’s take a closer look at the picture.

    Upon further analysis, that ‘horrific’ picture of the woman with barefoot children in diapers running from the U.S. border wall was Fake News. And the Fake News media all shared the photo to try to instantly turn the invaders into victims to fit the Fake News media’s political narrative.

    In the background of the photo you can see a group of men posing for one cameraman while another young man is running toward a second cameraman. In other spots of the photo, people are just standing around calmly with no sense of urgency whatsoever. The woman with the children was just a photo-op, we just don’t see the third cameraman who took the photo. Only those specifically on camera were acting like something horrendous was happening to them. You can see everyone else, off camera, just standing around waiting to be called in as an extra, I guess.

    Look at the high resolution picture of the guys in the back holding each other for the photographer to make it look like they are running. They know how naive & foolish the liberal/Progressive/normal viewer brainwash gang is.

    Now that the scene at the border has been exposed, how much do you want to bet that the leftists will now get violent? It is the history of leftists that when their message isn’t being taken seriously, they turn to violence believing that will make people take them seriously. Watch for outbursts of violence on both sides of the border in the coming days, because the narrative that the invaders are just a bunch of innocent people who honestly need asylum is now all but dead, and the leftists only have themselves to blame for getting caught spreading a fake news story that was so clearly obvious.

  42. John Avatar
    John

    Trump’s response to the caravan was brilliant!!

    https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/11/02/were-just-supposed-to-let-the-caravan-in/

  43. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bone-voyage/

    Now I understand why John believes in the “gospel according to Rush Limbaugh.”

  44. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Gowdy disagrees with Justice Roberts on politicization of judiciary
    November 27, 2018

    The rare and public spat between President Donald Trump and Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts last week kicked off a nationwide debate regarding the independence and authority of federal judges. Supporting the president’s position that the judiciary has become politicized, South Carolina Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy agreed that both journalists and politicians often refer to judges by who put them on the bench.

    Compromised court system
    “I wish Chief Justice Roberts were right. I wish there were not a politicization of the judiciary,” Gowdy said Sunday on CBS’s Face the Nation. “But it’s not just politicians.”

    Gowdy continued, explaining how Trump was simply pointing out the obvious when he said District Judge Jon S. Tigar was an “Obama judge” for temporarily banning the administration’s attempt to deny asylum to a mob of economic migrants at the U.S. southern border:

    Every print article that you will go find this afternoon refers to judges based on the president that put him or her in office. And you see terms like conservative and ultra conservative and liberal and moderate, which are political terms but they’re used to describe judges. So I wish Chief Justice Roberts were right. I wish that we did not refer to judges based on which president put them in office as if that is somehow going to inextricably lead us to the conclusion. But it’s been happening since I was a kid. It’s been happening for 50 years that we have used political terms to describe judges.

    It has become standard media practice to point to a judge’s political ties to explain their legal decisions. This was on display most recently when CNN sued the White House to restore a disruptive correspondent’s press credentials.

    When Judge Timothy Kelly of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia ruled in CNN’s favor, publications like The Washington Post exulted in the media’s victory, producing headlines that read: “Trump-appointed judge: Get CNN’s Jim Acosta back in the White House.”

    A legal scholar with a lifetime of judicial service, Gowdy knows a thing or two about justice and courtroom procedure. He worked for six years as a federal prosecutor, taking down “America’s Most Wanted” suspects and tirelessly prosecuting crimes ranging from narcotics trafficking, bank robbery, child pornography and the murder of a federal witness.

    While serving as the 7th Circuit Solicitor, Gowdy championed drug courts and victim advocacy projects and was nationally recognized for “excellence in death penalty prosecutions.” Representing South Carolina’s 4th District, Gowdy is the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and a member of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and Judiciary Committee.

    Before he retires at the end of his current term, Gowdy would like to see both politicians and the media stop injecting partisan opinions into the judiciary. “I wish we would stop. But President Trump is not the first person to do it,” he said. “I think President Obama criticized the Supreme Court to their face in the State of the Union. So I wish everyone would stop, including the media, referring to judges based on which president put them in office.”

    The 9th Circuit Court has been a thorn in the president’s side, and Trump complained that any lawsuits that are heard in the liberal-dominated court are an “automatic loss.” In response to this and other statements decrying the transparent partisanship among federal judges, Justice Roberts criticized the president in a rare moment of judicial dissent.

    “We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges,” Roberts said, releasing a statement through the court’s public information office. “What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them.”

    Some of Roberts’ colleagues on the Supreme Court have disagreed with this assessment, complaining that small, district judges are abusing their limited authority by enforcing sweeping injunction which undermine the president’s authority at the national level.

    “These injunctions are beginning to take a toll on the federal court system—preventing legal questions from percolating through the federal courts, encouraging forum shopping, and making every case a national emergency for the courts and for the Executive Branch,” Justice Clarence Thomas wrote earlier this year in his concurrence with the court’s travel ban ruling.

    Do you agree that the judicial branch has been politicized?

    Trump, however, had the last word, taking to Twitter to render a fact-based rebuttal of the chief justice. “Justice Roberts can say what he wants, but the 9th Circuit is a complete & total disaster,” he tweeted on Thanksgiving morning. “It is out of control, has a horrible reputation, is overturned more than any Circuit in the Country, 79%, & is used to get an almost guaranteed result.”

    “Judges must not Legislate Security and Safety at the Border, or anywhere else,” Trump concluded. “They know nothing about it and are making our Country unsafe. Our great Law Enforcement professionals MUST BE ALLOWED TO DO THEIR JOB! If not there will be only bedlam, chaos, injury and death. We want the Constitution as written!”

  45. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    artax

    with all due respect Sir a lot of people apparently listen to Russ in the USA

    MUCH MORE THAN READS—HAVE READ– OR WILL EVER READ BU. OK?

  46. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    GP

    And with all due respect Sir, I don’t believe you, I or the man on the “Cream of Wheat” box know how many people read, have read…. or will ever read BU……

    .Unless you have the relevant substantiating evidence (e.g. statistics), your comment must be taken as an assumption.

  47. John Avatar
    John

    … and Rush seems to do alright financially,

    Rush Limbaugh net worth: $590 Million

    Rush Limbaugh’s Salary $85 Million

  48. John Avatar
    John

    You know Trump doing well when Obama rushing to take credit for something I doubt he even understands.

    He reduced oil production and now he is claiming credit for increasing it!!

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/11/28/obama_suddenly_america_is_the_biggest_oil_producer_that_was_me_people.html

    A complete joker in a pretty four seam pants.

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    John

    “Rush Limbaugh’s show has been the number one commercial talk show since at least 1987 when record keeping began.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-listened-to_radio_programs

    Even David listens to him!!!

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    John

    You see the difference between Trump and Obama in the use of the personal pronoun I!!

    Obama is all about Obama, Trump is about America!!

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