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Submitted by Mohammed Degia

Al-Quds. Photo courtesy of worldbulletin.net

The Caribbean Community group of countries or CARICOM has for a long time feigned at having a common foreign policy. While this may be true with respect to some issues on the international agenda, particularly in the area of development, this pretence of unity dissipates on high-stake political matters. One only has to look at the USA invasion of Iraq, the China/Taiwan recognition question, the Shiprider Agreement, Article 98 Agreements, ALBA or Venezuela. Add to this list, yesterday’s UN General Assembly vote on the status of Jerusalem.

Donald Trump and his administration’s many shenanigans have dominated the news for many months. For the past two and a half weeks, the events surrounding Trump’s announcement that the USA recognises Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and will relocate its Embassy to there from its current location in Tel Aviv have been paid considerable attention to worldwide.

Following this unilateral announcement by the Trump administration and the concern expressed by the international community, a draft UN Security Council resolution was tabled in response. The text was put to a vote on Monday 18th and expectedly the US used its veto to thwart its adoption. The draft document spoke to the need to abide by previous Security Council resolutions on the status of Jerusalem. If it had been adopted, the resolution would have affirmed “that any decisions and actions which purport to have altered, the character, status or demographic composition of the Holy City of Jerusalem have no legal effect, are null and void and must be rescinded in compliance with relevant resolutions of the Security Council.” It would also have called on all States “to refrain from the establishment of diplomatic missions in the Holy City of Jerusalem.” Fourteen of the fifteen Security Council members- the other four permanent members and all 10 non-permanent members- voted in favour.

The US Ambassador to the UN, former South Carolina Governor, Nikki Haley once again showcased her diplomatic immaturity and her seeming intent to rival one of her predecessors, John Bolton, in his disastrous stint. After her tirade at the Council vote, she followed up with tweets and a letter to UN member states warning them not to support an anticipated UN General Assembly resolution on the issue. According to her, the US would take names of those who voted in favour of the resolution. Not to be outdone, Trump also threatened countries if they supported the resolution, contending that votes would be watched and aid cut.

A UN General Assembly resolution from 1950 called “Uniting for Peace” makes a provision for the General Assembly to consider a matter immediately “if the Security Council, because of lack of unanimity of the permanent members, fails to exercise its primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security in any case where there appears to be a threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression”. Acting in their respective roles as Chair of the Arab Group and Chair of the Summit of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, Yemen and Turkey requested the President of the General Assembly to resume the tenth emergency special session of the General Assembly and tabled the same draft resolution for the deliberation of the special session.

Final tally of UNGA vote on “Status of Jerusalem” resolution. Photo courtesy of un.org

UN General Assembly resolutions are non-binding so this would have only moral weight and be a symbolic demonstration of the international community’s opposition to Trump’s actions. The resolution was adopted by the General Assembly with a vote of 128 in favour, 9 against and 35 abstaining. The USA and Israel cast negative votes naturally. They were joined by Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru and Palau, four of the set of Pacific islands that always vote on these types of resolutions in the way they are directed to by certain countries. Guatemala, Honduras and Togo rounded out the no votes, unable obviously to withstand the pressure they had been placed under. Those abstaining were a medley of African, Asian, Caribbean, Latin American and Eastern European countries along with Australia and Canada. A similar assortment of African, Asian, Caribbean, Latin American and Eastern European countries numbering 21 did not participate in the voting. Thus 128 countries expressed unreserved backing for the resolution while in one way or another 65 did not support it. Although it was a decisive statement of validation for the status of Jerusalem and a rejection of Trump’s action, it was in no way an overwhelming victory. Of particular note is that Nikki Haley has invited these 65 countries to a reception on January 3rd to thank them for their friendship.

UNGA voting screen showing breakdown of how countries voted on “Status of Jerusalem” resolution. Photo courtesy of trendsmap.com

I will not delve into the international legal arguments about the status of Jerusalem and the illegal nature of the unilateral US action. Enough has been written about that. Neither will I, even though I am tempted to, address certain stark truths about Palestine and Jerusalem such as:

  1. the fact that the Palestinian Authority is a corrupt entity that colludes fully with Israel and the USA in the occupation of Palestine and acts as an enforcer for the Zionists;
  2. the so-called Muslim world is a huge mess and many of its tyrants and despots, led by the Egyptians, aid and abet the oppression of Muslims and Christians in Palestine. I had touched on the Egyptian governments hypocrisy on Palestine when I wrote about an Egyptian Minister’s racist remarks last year;
  3. Oslo and the so-called peace process is a farce that was created specifically to legitimise the colonial settler entity of Israel and ensure that if the Palestinians do ever have a state, it will be an unviable set of Bantustans. Edward Said tackled this masterfully in his “Peace and its Discontents.”

I want to touch on CARICOM and the way some of the group chose to vote or not vote. CARICOM countries speak often and loudly about how powerful, large states should not marginalise those that are small or weaker. They stress the importance of multilateralism and international law in this regard and how important these norms are in ensuring all voices are heard. One wonders therefore how seven of the fourteen CARICOM countries that are members of the UN found themselves not supporting this resolution. A resolution which is clear cut about international law and the necessity of states to abide by it. The unilateral declaration of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is in direct contravention of Security Council resolutions and international law. Two key allies of Israel and the USA that are permanent members of the Security Council –France and the UK- voted in favour of the resolution. That is telling. Yet, Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Haiti, Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago saw it necessary to reject international law. St. Kitts and Nevis and St. Lucia did not think it even necessary to participate in the voting. This is a preferred course of action employed for many years by some CARICOM countries and especially those from the OECS when there is a controversial vote. I have always thought it to be a cowardly way to deal with an uncomfortable subject.

Dealing with difficult topics is not something we in the Caribbean like to do and the reality is that the meetings of the Council for Foreign and Community Relations (COFCOR) and Heads of Government are largely talk shops where documents are churned out yearly with no clear strategy and no implementation of what little is contained in those documents. The region operates mostly in reactionary mode and is constantly playing catch up. I am unsure whether any attempt was made to coordinate a CARICOM position on the Jerusalem issue. I would not be at all surprised, based on my knowledge and experience of the region, to hear that there wasn’t any. Moreover, the region is prone to disunity and larger countries are well aware that the carrot and stick approach deployed in various ways is an effective tool to split the group and achieve their goals.

The way forward for CARICOM is a practical one. First, how can the region progress beyond this inertia to an actual dynamic foreign-policy coordinating process which produces bold, strategic actions? Second, how can the region move from paying lip service to multilateralism and international law to acting in a principled manner whenever these cogs of the global system are compromised? The answer rests in the two complimenting each other. The regional integration process requires a revival, both from a political perspective and at the bureaucratic level in the Secretariat. A CARICOM that is unified in understanding the challenges and opportunities presented by the international arena should certainly be able to confront them much more meaningfully and successfully. In addition, a CARICOM whose bonds are strong will be a much more difficult prospect for countries that depend on divide and rule and carrot and stick methods of diplomacy.

Of course this is all theoretical and easy to spell out on paper. In reality, we have a group of small islands clinging tightly to notions of sovereignty and political leaders in possession of large egos and for whom any sense of relinquishing a minuscule amount of power is beyond comprehension. This is one of the main reasons why the regional integration project has not been realised. The movement and interaction of people throughout the region has been an ongoing feature of life in the Caribbean for as long as anyone can remember. Instead of building on these deep people to people links through the creation of strong institutions, political leaders have simply paid lip service and engaged in useless rhetoric. It is time for the people of the region to demand more of their political leaders and hold them accountable.


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251 responses to “CARICOM Disarray on UN General Assembly “Status of Jerusalem” Vote”


  1. What this ‘moral’ vote signals is that the US has relinquished it role as ‘leader’ of the free world.

    Check the countries with the negative votes.

    The USA and Israel cast negative votes naturally. They were joined by Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru and Palau, four of the set of Pacific islands that always vote on these types of resolutions in the way they are directed to by certain countries. Guatemala, Honduras and Togo rounded out the no votes, unable obviously to withstand the pressure they had been placed under.

    Trump is a BOMBASTIC Jackass, ah lie?


  2. Why is the author surprised at the divided vote by Caricom? Just have a look at the so called one China policy. How many countries in Caricom recognize Taiwan for example?


  3. HE MIGHT BE BOMBASTIC

    BUT HE NOT A JACKASS

    NO JACKASS COULD ACCOMPLISH THE THE THINGS THAT HE HAS DONE

    THE MAN PLAYS ALL THE VARIOUS ASSEMBLIES OF MORONS LIKE A CONDUCTOR OF AN ORCHESTRA

    ITS FUN TO WATCH. THE MAN MAKES SIR ADRIAN BOULT LOOK LIKE A NOVITIATE CHOIRBOY


  4. Donald Trump secured his first major legislative victory as president Friday, signing a sweeping Republican tax measure into law as he closed out a turbulent 2017 at the White House.

    After a raucous celebration with Republican lawmakers Wednesday on the White House’s South Portico — during which senior GOP members lavished him with effusive praise — Trump opted to sign the bill in the Oval Office rather than hold another signing ceremony.

    The measure lowers the corporate rate to 21 percent and cuts taxes across the board; both long have been major goals for Republicans. For Trump, putting his signature on the legislation fulfills what was one of his biggest campaign promises.

    In recent weeks, Trump has called the tax measure a “big, beautiful Christmas present” for the American people and U.S. businesses. Senior White House aides say the president himself came up with that “branding” for the measure.

    But it represents a triple win for Trump and Republicans. That’s because the bill, which passed both the House and Senate without a single Democratic vote in support, also zeroed out the penalty for not buying health insurance as part of the 2010 health law and opened the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to energy drilling.

    Trump and GOP lawmakers are hopeful the tax cuts will help them in the 2018 midterm elections — and the House and Senate likely will be in play next November.

    WHAT A JACKASS!

    DAVID YOU ARE NOT A JACKASS OR BOMBASTIC RIGHT?
    WHAT HAVE YOU ACCOMPLISHED IN BARBADOS OR ANYWHERE ELSE OF ANY REAL SIGNIFICANCE? JUST ASKING POLITELY SIR?


  5. Donald Trump has been said by many phycologist/psychiatrists to be afflicted with a range of mental disorders.

    But you don’t have to be a doctor of psychology or psychiatry to know that Trump is not playing with a full deck.

    What is amazing is that some highly mis-educated Christian-evangelical-dispensationalist types, like Georgie Porgie, could continue saying how bulling Obama is/was while supporting a madman with his hands on the nuclear codes.

    This thing about Al-Quds being falsely named, unilaterally, as the capital of a country which never existed before 1948 stokes the magical thinking of these fucking Christian idiots like Georgie Porgie.

    For Christians are no less mad than Trump and he himself is prepared to use their insane gullibility in the service of personal accumulation, political power.

    The Al-Quds false naming was a pure political promise for campaign contributions donated by Adelson, a man who made his fortunes from gambling.

    And the Adelson types give not a fuck about religion, any religion, theirs is a straight case of influence or influence peddling.

    There is no divine purpose here!

    But somehow rasssssoul idiots like Georgie Porgies will see Trump as some manifestation of the Armageddon their lying bible talks about.

    A prelude to the return of a messiah (jesus) who never existed or at least cannot be shown by imperial data to have ever lived on this earth……………..not religious dogma,

    So his every criminal action (Trump’s) is to be overlooked under that rubric.

    The stinking Christians like Georgie Porgie have no problems with the furtherance of a criminal scenario where the same Jews or Zionists who they say are the chosen people of some wicked sky god are to be destroyed in their end times war unless they convert to Christianity.

    Christianity a dirty, gutter, religion used to enslave Afrikan peoples with the very Jews/Zionists, the writers of the bible with their own hand, acting as creators and chief operators.


  6. Well said Georgie Porgie!


  7. Trump has no class.A crude ill-bred lying sonofabitch and a bully of immense proportions.


  8. If you asked the man on the street in Barbados and I bet any other Caricom state what is the capital of Israel they will either not have a clue or say Jerusalem …. particularly at this time of the year!!

    I would also bet that most have never even heard of Tel Aviv!!

    To participate in this vote was a waste of time.

    St. Kitts/Nevis, St. Lucia and many, many others obviously had their heads on straight and did not vote.

    Their representatives probably did not even turn up thereby saving their countries thousands of dollars.

    Who actually moved and seconded the resolution?

    I bet nobody actually knows without googling!


  9. @John

    Isn’t the issue more about the fact the USA has always promoted itself as leading the peace effort in the ME, how can the US play that role going forward knowing that Jerusalem is a part of the area being claimed by the Palestinians?


  10. RE Trump has no class.A crude ill-bred lying sonofabitch and a bully of immense proportions.
    BUT I USED TO LIKE WHEN HE USED TO TURN UP IN HIS OWN JET THAT SAID ON THE FUSELAGE….”TRUMP”

    ALL YOU FELLAS CAN DO IS CUSS DE MAN AND CALL HE NAMES………BUT HE BEAT ALL HIS COMPETITORS…….18 SEASONED POLITICIANS
    THEN HE WON THE ELECTIONS THAT ALL WUNNAH SAID HE WOULD LOSE

    AND NOW ALMOST ALONE HE KEEPING HIS PROMISES

    HE HAS DONE VERY WELL AGAINST THE ODDS

    IF HE WAS BLACK LIKE CASSIUS CLAY WUNNAH WOULD BE HAILING HIM AS A HERO

    JOHN
    IT MATTERS NOT WHICH OF THE ISLANDS VOTED FOR OR IF THEY VOTED AGAINST
    IT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED BY LAW THAT THE US EMBASSY SHOULD BE AT JERUSALEM……..AND IT WILL BE SO.


  11. David,

    Israel has a small parcel of land in Middle East. Why does no one ever mention, that the wealthy Saudis, Iraqis, Iranians etc have never offered to parcel a segment of land for a new Palestine??

    Countries with wealth beyond any dreams of most. Plenty of land and no effort to support Palestinians in a state?

    May we say then, that their motive is one of continuing aggressions against Israel, via the proxy of Palestine?

    Let us not be naïve.

    They do not want Israel, full stop. It is not about a Palestinian state. They can have that tomorrow morning. This is about the Arab states trying to get rid of Israel.

    It would start with Jerusalem, then another city, and another.

    Let us cut the rubbish and be real about this.


  12. THERE WILL BE NO PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST UNTIL THE PRINCE OF PEACE USHERS IT IN WHEN HE SINGLE HANDEDLY DEFEATS THE ARMIES OF THE UNITED NATIONS AT ARMAGEDDON.

    WHEN ALL THE NATIONS OR THE MAJORITY OF THEM VOTE AGAINST ISRAEL THAT IS TO BE EXPECTED, FOR SO IT HAS BEEN PROPHESIED.

    WE OUGHT TO PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM AS THE PSALMIST ENJOINS UNTIL THE PEACE OF PEACE RETURNS


  13. Crusoe
    DID NOT ISRAEL GIVE THE GAZA STRIP TO THE “PALESTINIANS” IN 2005………FOR PEACE ? WHAT DID THEY DO WITH IT?


  14. @Crusoe

    Given all that has transpired in the ME would the Palestinians relinquish their historical claim if the offer was made?

    > New comment on your post “CARICOM Disarray on UN General Assembly > “Status of Jerusalem” Vote” > https://barbadosunderground.net/2017/12/22/caricom-disarray-on-un-general-assembly-status-of-jerusalem-vote/ > > Author: Crusoe > URL: > Email: Prirobinson@yahoo.com > Whois: http://whois.arin.net/rest/ip/206.231.121.85 (IP: 206.231.121.85)


  15. Isn’t the issue more about the fact the USA has always promoted itself as leading the peace effort in the ME
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Didn’t the USA go to war in Iraq, Libya, Syria, …. I googled US wars when I lost count … here is the list.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

    Pretty extensive.

    If you think that it is a fact that USA has always promoted itself as leading the peace effort in the Middle East I suggest you check your facts and look at the list.

    I am going to ask at the functions I attend this Christmas which is the Capital of Israel, Jerusalem or Nazareth.

    Then I am going to ask, in which continent is Tel Aviv located?


  16. @John

    Do you deny that the US has always sat between Israel and the PLO at the mediation table?


  17. I have never been present.


  18. Who sells the fighter jets to Saudi, Iraq etc? Where are the major arms manufacturers located and who owns the shares in those companies?

    Probably every developed nation. Who is therefore at fault?

    Fact is, no one will say boo to the oil wealthy, because they are… oil wealthy.

    Instead there is this line walked, like an umpire alternately favouring each team. To be friends with both.


  19. JOHN
    RE The British Consulate-General in Jerusalem represents the UK government in Jerusalem, West Bank and Gaza.

    IF THE UK HAS ITS EMBASSY IN JERUSALEM WHY SHOULD THE USA HAVE ITS EMBASSY IN TEL AVIV?

    RE USA has always promoted itself as leading the peace effort in the Middle East
    ALL STUDIED ESCHATOLOGISTS KNOW THAT THE USA WILL BE OF NO CONSEQUENCE IN THE APPROACHING ESCHATON.
    RUSSIA IRAN TURKEY AND “THE KINGS OF THE EAST” ARE MENTIONED, BUT CERTAINLY NOT THE USA , AH LIE?


  20. HERE IS SOME BASIC ESCHATOLOGY
    a working outline of the second coming.
    1. The Rapture of the Church, (Ist. Phase) followed by the judgement Seat of Christ (bema) and the marriage of the lamb.
    2.The Revelation of Antichrist.
    3. The Rigors of The Great Tribulation.
    4. The Resounding Victory of Christ at the Battle of Armageddon.
    5. The Return of Christ in Glory (2nd. phase)
    6.The Renegade Satan is bound.
    7.The Rule of Christ in the Millennial Kingdom.
    8. The Rebellion of Satan for the last time.
    9. The Rejection of unbelievers at the last judgement.
    10.’I’he Retirement of the saints to the new heaven and the new earth.

    Having discussed the rapture which is of great significance and importance to believers because of its imminence, we now present here a listing of the events shown in the Bible which will occur during the “end times”. Even among those who hold a pre-millenial view of the end times, there are differences about the order of these events, but almost all think of these events as occurring during the end times.

    EVENTS IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD
    1. The Church raptured: John 14:1-3, 1 Cor. 15:51,52; 1 Thess. 4:16-18; Rev.3:10.
    2. The Restrainer removed: 2 Thess. 2:7.
    3. The Judgment Seat of Christ (in heaven): 1 Cor. 3:12-15; 2 Cor. 5:10.
    We can associate these three events with the RAPTURE.

    The anti-Christ rises to power over the Roman confederacy: Dan. 7:20, 24.
    EVENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD
    The anti Christ (the coming “ruler”) makes a covenant with Israel: Dan. 9:26,27.

    EVENTS IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD
    1. Israel living in peace in the land: Ezek. 38:8.

    Temple sacrifices re-instituted: Rev. 11:1,2.
    World church dominates religion and the anti-Christ: Rev. 17.
    EVENTS JUST BEFORE THE MIDDLE OF THE SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD
    Gog and his allies invade Palestine from the north: Eze. 38:2-6,22
    Gog and his allies destroyed by God: Eze. 38:17-23.
    We can associate all of these last seven listed events with the REVELATION OF ANTICHRIST

    EVENTS AT THE MIDDLE OF THE SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD
    1. Satan cast down from heaven and energizes the anti-Christ: Rev. 12:12-17.

    The anti-Christ breaks his covenant with Israel, causing her sacrifices to cease: Dan. 9:27.
    The ten kings under the anti-Christ destroy the world church: Rev. 17:16-18.
    The 144,000 Israelites saved and sealed: Rev. 7:1-8.
    EVENTS OF THE SECOND HALF OF THE SEVEN YEAR PERIOD

    These 3 1/2 years are called “the great tribulation (Rev. 7:14), “great distress” (Matt. 24:21); “time of distress” (Dan. 12:1), and a “time of trouble for Jacob” (Jer. 30:7).
    1. Rebellion (apostasy) against the truth in the professing church: Matt. 24:12; 2 Thess. 2:3.

    the anti-Christ becomes a world ruler (first seal, Rev. 6:1,2), with support of the Western confederacy: Rev. 13:5-7; 17:12,13.
    The anti-Christ is revealed as “the man of lawlessness” or “the lawless one”: 2 Thess. 2:3,8,9.
    War, famine, and death (2nd, 3rd, and 4th seals): Rev. 6:3-8.
    Converted multitudes from every nation are martyred (5th seal): Rev. 6:9-11; 7:9-14; Matt. 24:9.
    Natural disturbances and worldwide fear of divine wrath (6th seal): Rev. 6:12-17.
    The anti-Christ’s image (an “abomination”) is set up for worship: Dan. 9:27; Matt. 24:15; 2 Thess. 2:4; Rev. 13:14,15.
    Two witnesses begin their ministry: Rev. 11:3.
    The false prophet promotes the anti-Christ, who is worshipped by nations and unbelieving Israel: Matt. 24:11,12; 2 Thess. 2:11; Rev. 13:14,11-15.
    The mark of the Beast is used to promote worship of the anti-Christ: Rev. 13:16-18.
    Israel scattered because of the anger of Satan (Rev. 12:6, 13-17) and because of the “abomination” (the anti-Christ’s image) in the temple (Matt. 24:15-26).
    Jerusalem overrun by Gentiles: Luke 21:24; Rev. 11:2.
    The anti-Christ and false prophets deceive many people: Matt. 24:11; 2 Thess. 2:9-11.
    The gospel of the Kingdom is proclaimed: Matt. 24:14.
    Israel persecuted by the anti-Christ: Jer. 30:5-7; Dan. 12:1; Zech. 13:8; Matt. 24:21,22.
    Trumpet judgments (Rev. 8 and 9) and bowl judgments (Rev. 16) are poured out by God on the anti-Christ’s empire.
    Blasphemy increases as the judgments intensify: Rev. 16:8-11.
    EVENTS CONCLUDING THE SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD
    Two witnesses slain by the anti-Christ: Rev. 11:7.
    Two witnesses resurrected: Rev. 11:11,12.
    The king of the South and the king of the North fight against the anti-Christ: Dan. 11:40.
    The anti-Christ enters Palestine and defeats Egypt, Libya, and Ethiopia: Dan. 11:40-43.
    Armies from the East and the North move toward Palestine: Dan. 11:44; Rev. 16:12.
    Jerusalem is ravaged: Zech. 14:1-4.
    Commercial Babylon is destroyed: Rev. 16:19; 18:1-3, 21-24.
    Signs appear in the earth and sky: Isa. 13:10; Joel 2:10,30,31; 3:15; Matt. 24:29.
    Christ returns with the armies of Heaven: Matt. 24:27-31; Rev. 19:11-16.
    Jews flee Jerusalem, facilitated by topographical changes: Zech. 14:5.
    Armies unite at Armageddon against Christ and the armies of Heaven: Joel 3:9-11; Rev. 16;16; 19:17-19.
    Armies are destroyed by Christ: Rev. 19:19,21.
    The “beast” (anti-Christ) and the false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire: Rev. 19:20.
    The above events above constitute the occurences in the RIGORS OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION

    EVENTS FOLLOWING THE SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD
    1. Final regathering of Israel: Isa. 11:11,12; Jer. 30:3; Eze. 36:24; 37:1-14; Amos 9:14,15; Micah 4:6,7; Matt. 24:31.

    A remnant of Israelies turn to the Lord and are forgiven and cleansed: Hosea 14:1-5; Zech. 12:10; 13:1.
    National deliverance of Israel from the anti-Christ: Dan. 12:1; Zech. 12:10; 13:1; Rom. 11:26,27.


  21. Other countries are also considering moving their embassies to Jerusalem

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/22/middleeast/benjamin-netanyahu-jerusalem-intl/index.html

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/24/middleeast/donald-trump-us-embassy-israel-explainer/index.html

    “What about consulates?
    Some countries do maintain consulates in Jerusalem, including the United States, which has one in the western part of the city. Other countries — such as Britain and France for instance — have a consulate in the eastern part of the city, which serve as their countries’ main representation in the Palestinian territories.”

    “What are Trump’s options if he goes ahead with the embassy move?
    The first is to make use of the undeveloped plot that the US has been leasing since 1989. Or the US could turn its existing consulate in Jerusalem into the embassy. A final option might be to leave the embassy in Tel Aviv, but have the US Ambassador to Israel do his day-to-day work in Jerusalem.”

    “Have any countries ever had their embassy in Jerusalem?
    Yes. Before 1980 a number of countries did, including the Netherlands and Costa Rica.”

    “Right. So what happened?
    In July of 1980, Israel passed a law that declared Jerusalem the united capital of Israel. The United Nations Security Council responded with a resolution condemning Israel’s annexation of East Jerusalem and declared it a violation of international law.”

    “So countries moved their embassies out of the city?
    Correct. In 2006, Costa Rica and El Salvador were the last to move their embassies out of Jerusalem, joining the rest of the world in locating their embassies in Tel Aviv.”

    How many Bajans or Vincentians are interested in this ball of twine?


  22. Ask yourselves who are those “people” that the UN allowed to occupy Israel in 1948 by “creating” the State of Israel, what is Tel Aviv.

    The said UN recognized / adopted a Partition Plan for Palestine recommending the creation of independent Arab and Jewish states and an internationalized Jerusalem , why now a vote on Jerusalem?

    Mockery… we watched the UN security council sat on their laurels while Israeli forces literally committed heinous acts against an unarmed people, nothing short of an ethnic cleansing exercise for want of expansion and occupation of their 8 million people and growing in a little 2×4 state. or
    Is the UN giving Israel the right of way to escalate their expansion agenda?

    What if moving the embassy to Jerusalem is strategic for the protection from further bloodshed of innocent women and children, or the further expansion and occupation of the occupiers of Israel which is PROCLAIMING Jerusalem to be their capital, although the State of Israel is defined by its borders and neighbors including Gaza and the West Bank to the east and west respectively.

    Question yourselves on what could it be of such an underlying importance that would commit large nations an International bodies to facilitate the occupiers of Israel.

    What connection do they have with Antarctica.

    Less we forget…https://youtu.be/NANqcKIrbV0


  23. “That sounds pretty straightforward…
    Wait a minute, it gets more complicated. In 1989, Israel began leasing to the US a plot of land in Jerusalem for a new embassy. The 99-year lease cost $1 per year. To this day, the plot has not been developed, and it remains an empty field.

    OK. Keep going…
    In 1995, the US Congress passed a law requiring America to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Proponents said the US should respect Israel’s choice of Jerusalem as its capital, and recognize it as such.

    So why hasn’t the embassy moved yet?
    Every president since 1995 — Presidents Clinton, Bush and Obama — has declined to move the embassy, citing national security interests. Every six months, the President has used the presidential waiver to circumvent the embassy move.”

    It is the law!!!


  24. Who is going to read all that shite You wrote above Georgie Porgie jack a.ss
    You are more of a jac a.ss than Trump your jac a.ss self relishing in the thought that this mad a.ss lunatic Trump ascendancy to high office in world leadership heralds the sign of Armmaggedon a biblical prophesy written thousands of years ago by unknown people who had no clue that the earth was round but could be directed by some unknown entity called God in their writings
    Trump has proven over and over again that he isa clueless moron on steriods pandering to the jewish vote even if it means world annihilation
    What a clueless jack a.ss


  25. Why must the jews get evetything. Is not having the land enough. Why must the Palestines be eternal foot stools of the jews
    Now come along Trump who has no clue of anything to do with world history and how the jews occupies stolen land and he is now good and ready to steal another piece of sovereignty for the Palestines
    But you know what Trump has no moral fibre and thinking about how much he had stolen from people it then makes sense to understand why he could not careless when it comes to doing the immoral if it wins him political earnings


  26. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO READ IT AT ALL.
    AND YOU AND PACHAMA CAN CUSS ME TILL THE COWS COME HOME
    BUT I KNOW WHOM I HAVE BELIEVED AND WHAT I HAVE BELIEVED………AND THIS IS BECOMING CLEARER TO ME EVERYDAY


  27. Your a.ss would be dead if ever and at all this prophesy comes true. The world had gone through wars and rumors of war.There is nothing new understand the sun ever since the world existed that has not happen
    Now looking for bible prophesy as a prediction is liken to vodoo prophesy


  28. Your a.ss would be dead if ever and at all this prophesy comes true. The world has gone through wars and rumors of war.There is nothing new under the sun ever since the world existed that has not happen
    Now looking for bible prophesy as a prediction is liken to vodoo prophesy
    Every catastrophic event recorded in the bible was a predicted as a sign of end times which did not happen. moreover civilization readjust and adapt and continued a new and different way of life
    One would believe that with all knowledge acquired that the GP’s of this world would refrain from becoming chicken littles with the realization that the world in which these ancient writers lived was founded on their limited knowledge of what the they perceive and believe to be divine interaction.


  29. I used to think there should be, even could be peace in the middle east.

    The longer I live the more I realise that is only a dream.

    Man will never on his own, attain peaceful co-existence.

    Even in my own small circle I have seen divisions arise where there were apparently none and been unable to explain them other than to say it is just supposed to be so.

    I am sure we each have the same experiences, looking and hoping for a peaceful coexistence … but it never happens.

    http://biblehub.com/luke/12-51.htm

    Even within the Quakers who are all about peace and friendship, I have found through research, divisions in ways of thinking leading to divisions in the sect.

    http://www.quakerinfo.org/quakerism/branches/history

    Ultimately, each person makes choices for himself/herself that’s just how we are made by God and that’s why I think we never find peace with each other.

    It is also, I think, why the totalitarian ideologies of communism, fascism and even socialism have and will always collapse.

    They all try to fly in the face of God.

    … and thank you GP for sharing your knowledge and laying out what I have never been able to put together but always instinctively felt.

    Will follow through the verses.


  30. Anything that upsets the muslims and their unending attempt to portray themselves as victims rather than barbarians is excellent news. Trump has, as usual, merely acted where his pusillanimous predecessors including the criminal Obama, have vacillated.
    Shame on Bim for toadying the barbarian line. The Jews have contribute to the sciences, medicine, culture, the arts, and enlightenment out of all proportion to their tiny numbers, while islam and its brain-dead cultists have contributed nothing but death, destruction, darkness and barbary with their regressived, stone-age mores
    UP YOURS, YOU MOHAMMEDS, WHEREVER YOU ARE.

  31. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    How come my name has not been called in this one….lol….

    …..oh right, they think the stinking, thiefing, murderous fake jews will come to the Caribbean and help the dirty little mediocre racists on the islands, who only number a few thousand…..help them create another thiefing state to abuse and victimize the majority population.

    But yall racists fart…lol


  32. What a dilemma it must be in the states for liberals supporting countries and a religion that makes them defer to men , yet wanting to jump on the me too band wagon and liberate themselves from mens dominance. Nicky Haley is my new hero she has balls. and you can be sure a lot of the men in that room dont like it that she is swinging a big stick around.
    Does any one really think the tail is going to wag the dog …. only in barbados


  33. Well said lawson.
    I am hardly surprised that the resident foaming racist Well Well What a Neo-Nazi I am expresses his hatred for the Jews, as well as whites – well a loser cretin like that would after a lifetime of failure, resentment, and parasitism. I wonder if his unfortunate daughter that he fawns over so obsequiously has been indoctrinated in his poisonous brand of race-hatred?


  34. Are you sure WW is a dude, I thought it was an old hen because of the sour disposition and all.


  35. 45govt December 23, 2017 at 8:19 AM #

    Freedom of speech has nothing to do with the vile, demented, fraudulent racist thuggery that masquerades as postings to this blog every other minute of the day. We have already worked out that s/he, it has an insomnia problem, a recognised mental health issue, s/he, it also forges documents and is a confirmed liar. This is a serious plea for help.


  36. Trump the fool extols the leadership qualities of the vagabond KGB thug Putin.Here is an example of Putin’s thugery and how it has resulted in mass emigration.If Trump loves Russia and Putin he should pull up stakes and go there.At a minimum their laws allow alternate presidential power with the prime ministership as thug Putin has shown.in the US Trump calls the press purveyors of fake news.In Russia editors are beaten up and murdered,something Trump would do tomorrow if he could get away with it.He said it.”Beat them up,I will have lawyers defend you”……”I can shoot and kill on 5th Ave and get away with it”….effing thug and vagabond bully,an insult to the majority of Americans.Trump the JA.


  37. lawson December 23, 2017 at 8:43 AM #

    Nobody knows. It claims to be female and is named Daniela Gomez, a good old Bajan name.


  38. Lawson and Hal – perhaps you are right…but if it is female, then some nutter fooped it at least once, so the mental deficiencies must be on both sides!


  39. Hal I watched for 8 years at a president who was eloquent but as dumb as a stump. Everybody with any sense knows if you get rid of the apex predator all the lemmings will be going crazy trying to grab for the brass ring and thats what happened in the middle east . Its not americas job to be the world policeman and trump is a believer of that. Why should countries sit on their ass (and barbados is one ) and think there opinion matters after other countries usually one are doing the heavy lifting. A country that is been driving and eating in a shit bog for the last year you think would have move on its mind than to piss off the big dog with a meaningless vote.
    45 govt about WW
    strapping on a male appendage from time to time doesnt make her a dude, just about as much that as when she puts on that burka she gets any smarter

  40. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Dont mind Ha, Ha Hal Austin…he is just jealous and pissed he cant take credit fior the FSC/CGI/Frank Alleyne/Peter Harris exposure now trending cause he already LIED and said he did not send me the emails….cannot now walk back that lie with the truth…lol….haha haha

    A fake journalist, who would have realized the golden opportunity he had in his hands to expose the corruption and inefficiencies he rails against about these regulatory bodies..if he was a real journalist…..he missed the opportunity I gave him, dumbass black man that he is…so now it’s all sour grapes…lol

    They are all so incompetent that it is the damn indian criminal Harris had to expose everything..

    I leave him to the fake jews…lol

  41. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Lawson…What male appendages…yall aint got none…


  42. RE lawson December 23, 2017 at 9:07 AM #
    Hal I watched for 8 years at a president who was eloquent but as dumb as a stump.

    YOU CANT SAY THAT ON BU SIR…………….EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE TRUTH
    THE MAN IS BLACK SO HE SOMEHOW SPECIAL
    IN BARBADOS WE LOOK FOR ELOQUENCE AND DECORUM……….IT DONT MATTER IF YA DUMB. A LA FUMBLE
    IF YA BLACK YA CAN HURT MILLIONS WID LIES LIKE if ya like ya doctor ya can keep ya doctor if ya like ya plan ya can keep your plan ya premiums will go down while we force ya by law to buy something that ya dont need and that does not benefit ya at all

    millions lost their doctors, their plans and the cost of their premiums went through the roof
    their co pays became so high that their expensive plans were useless

    SHITBAMA—eloquent but as dumb as a stump.


  43. Georgie Porgie “SHITBAMA—eloquent but as dumb as a stump.” A talking head, bought and paid for by Soros and other globalist despots. No history, no background, his grandpappy rightly locked up for terrorism by the Brits, so the biggest real part of this dummy is the chips on its shoulders. A real hero for the brain-dead racists like Well Well What A Loonytoon I Am.


  44. The Zionist project is a long planned scheme to establish pax-judeca

    One condition of which is the killing of billions ……….. in his name


  45. Obama the “eloquent”, without his teleprompter!


  46. I do not normally correspond with the resident liar, but will forward to David an email from Lloyds – by the way an organisation I never worked with – confirming that I did not send them any email. The favourite tool of journalists is the telephone. It is more immediate; that is why most companies have press officers.

  47. Well Well @ Cut and Paste @ Your Service Avatar
    Well Well @ Cut and Paste @ Your Service

    Ha, Ha…the fake journalist, ya can still use the info i sent you though, it`s still very valid, but ya dont have the spine nor the balls..eunuch that ya are..

    i can lend ya a pair of my balls, if they were not already loaned out.

    fraud.

    same damn criminal had to expose everything himself, because a useless, pretend journalist who still carries the mentality of a house negro slave is too much of a coward.

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