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Introduction

Elton ‘Elombe’ Mottley

As we celebrated our 50th Anniversary, the question came to my mind about where will we be in the next 50 years? Even tho I ask myself this question, I am not expecting that my imagination can provide you with concrete images of what that culture will be. I don’t intend to even try, but what I would like to do is offer you a framework of ideas to consider.

Barbados is an island of 166 square miles sitting in the middle of a sea with our nearest neighbour 100 miles away. We are not on the beaten path. Any one coming to Barbados has to have a purpose. Can we create a purpose or several purposes to make it worth the while for people from wherever to step off that beaten path and fly or sail to Barbados? When they do, how can we persuade them to pay us for that privilege? What do we as Bajans have that has the power to make Barbados such a desirable destination?

Let us look at what we have that we think are unique:

  • Our beaches. Not at all unique. Everybody got beaches. But if they come our beaches are a bonus not a reason.
  • Our weather. Not unique either. Everybody got weather. But if they come our weather is a bonus not a reason.
  • Our environment. Not unique either. Everybody got environment, some with rivers, trees, pristine agricultural lands, golf courses. But if they come our pristine environment is a bonus not a reason.
  • Our people. Not unique either. Everybody got people. But if they come we must be the reason not a bonus.

What do we have that would create the reason and desire for visitors to step off the beaten track?

There was a time when cricket attracted the world because of the quality of our cricketers. In 1966, we had 10 players in the West Indies Test Team. We played cricket between houses, on raw ground, and on hillsides where the umpire had to tell the batsman that the bowler was coming up. The game has changed but have we changed? Partially. Franklyn Stevenson is showing one way it is done with his cricket school.

In order to survive as an independent country, we must sell the world

  • The pleasure of knowledge, health, caring, happiness and blissfulness by creating a desire for non Bajans to want to remain or go and come back again, and again. We will rent them that time to be with us. That rental is a combination of accommodation, food, transportation, entertainment and service. We must be the landlords.
  • Barbados as the center of education and health across the internet to the world – websites mastering social media as businesses to sell Barbados as the center of Education. ( e.g. Airbnb)

Barbados must develop the reputation across the Caribbean as having the best education and health systems in the Caribbean. If it isn’t so, let us make it so. Our goal is to market Barbados as BARBADOSThe CENTER for EDUCATION in the Americas.

EDUCATION INDUSTRY

BARBADOS – The CENTER for EDUCATION

UNIVERITIES

Our goal should be to have 10-15 Universities based in Barbados by 2025. A major part of this number should be Medical, Law, and Religious Universities.

MEDICAL SCHOOLS

  • When the new hospital is built, it will continue to have a relationship with UWI – Cave Hill.
  • The Old (60 year) Queen Elizabeth Hospital should be leased to one of the Medical Schools to be refurbished and used as a teaching hospital and school.
  • The Old General Hospital on Jemmott’s Lane should also be leased to another Medical School.
  • St Joseph Hospital in St Peter should also be leased to another Medical School.
  • The Psychiatric Hospital (Jenkins, Black Rock) occupies 25 acres and can also be leased to a Medical School. Modern Psychiatric centres should be established for psychiatric patients across the island. Alternately, this facility because of its location could be used as the location for the new National General Hospital with enough space to expand the UWI Medical School (Including nursing). UWI would most likely to get accreditation, a very important status for Caribbean Medical Schools – technicians, veterinary medicine, pharmaceutics, medical sciences, etc.

RELIGIOUS COLLEGES

  • Codrington College (600+ acres) should be developed into the Barbados International Spiritual University. It has already expanded as a University of Christian Thought by training members of other Christian churches.
  • Inviting the Chinese to establish and build a Confucius Institute to teach Chinese religions and philosophical thought and language.(Already being built at UWI- Cave Hill Campus.)
  • Inviting the Japanese/South Korea similarly establish a Buddhist, Zen, South Asian Religious College.
  • Inviting Saudis and Iranians to build Islamic Colleges.
  • Invite the International Jewish community to build a Centre for Jewish Studies especially recognizing the first Jewish Synagogue in the Americas in Bridgetown.
  • Inviting India to construct a Hindu College as well as other Indian religions.
  • Invite Nigeria and other African States to build an African Religions Centre to study African traditional religions and religious thought.

BARBADOS UNIVERSITY

1. COMMUNITY COLLEGE

Extended training in the Fine Arts –

o Animation

o Art

o Design

o Music

o Dance

o Theatre

o Film Production

o Fashion

o Web design

o Critical analysis

· Accounting

· Management

· Project Management

· Other traditional areas

SAMUEL JACKMAN PRESCOD POLYTECHNIC

  • Extended training of Craftsmen in joinery and reproduction of Bajan furniture for export.
  • All students in wood-working stream would be required to individually or as teams reproduce a piece of traditional furniture, or sets in order to graduate.
  • Training of wide range of technical graduates in maintenance and construction.
  • Medical technologists and maintenance of highly sophisticated technologies.

ERDISTON TEACHERS COLLEGE

  • Training is use of new technologies
  • Training how to use of proverbs to establish values

PRIVATE HIGH SCHOOLS FOR INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS

Barbados has had a number of private secondary schools for over 70 years viz.

The Barbados Academy, The Modern High School, The Federal High School, Mapp’s High School, St Winnifred’s High School, St Cyprian’s, (Green) Lynch’s Secondary, St Ursula’s Secondary, The Co-operative High School, Seventh Day Adventist High School, Callender’s High School, Metropolitan High School, Christ Church High School, and Codrington High School.

  • Barbados should encourage the use of many of the old plantation estates to establish private accredited high schools with or without boarding for local and foreign students to pursue the International Baccalaureate (IB) program.
  • Provide access to foreign students thru accredited schools, especially South and Central American students to access our High Schools so as to be immersed in English while boarding at former South Coast hotels converted into hostels.

SPORTS AND LIFE STYLE INSTITUTES

  • Education opportunities – coaching in sports, health farms, health spas and related rehabilitation services to develop talents of Bajans
  • Develop support services such as volunteers for the development of Sports in Primary, Secondary and National meetings.
  • UWI and its Institutes must conduct research aimed at encouraging new businesses that can be developed on the internet, in marketing of our music, artistic and cultural industries outlining the types of jobs and services required and existing Worldwide. This would include festivals that could hire our artistes to perform as professionals during the summer and fall. We need to capitalize on the Rhianna Effect.
  • Barbadians should also be encouraged to develop and practice the art of Sticklicking and Road Tennis.

HERITAGE

HERITAGE AND GENERAL NATIONAL EDUCATION

  • To strengthen the moral authority and respect for people, Barbadian students should be taught proverbs as training tools from preschool to the end of their secondary schooling.
  • NIFCA – the platform for exposing our youth to the arts, should emphasize its developmental role by establishing competition first at all primary schools where other students, teachers, family and friends could see their children’s works.
  • The winners in each category will go to the Parish level where they compete again and the winners next to the National Level. This process would also allow parents and friends to once again follow the children’s work and successes at all levels.
  • The finals would consist of those winners from the Parish level.
  • Parents and teachers would be encouraged to be judges alongside National judges who in their deliberations would raise the knowledge base of the parents, friends and the community at large thru the discussions.
  • The establishment of a series of voluntary National Orchestras and choirs to perform in public regularly at the National Bandstands – The Hastings Rocks, The Bay Street Esplanade, Queen’s Park, George V Park, Speightstown Esplanade and other areas. The purpose is to re-develop a solid heritage of musicians to enhance the quality of life in Barbados. We did it all before with Church Choirs and Village Choirs.

LANDSHIP

One of the critical requirements for Bajans is the need to strengthen our own self-awareness and self-esteem of what and who is a Bajan. The Barbados Landship Movement is unique to Barbados and gives us the singular identity second to none. The survival of the Landship Movement must be part of our National Identity. Without it we have a face without a nose.

The only country that has a Landship Movement is Barbados. Landship for adults will die out because most of the communal conditions e.g. savings and burial benefits have been replaced by National Insurance and individual insurance. This unique Bajan indigenous institution should not be allowed to die. It must be recreated and reimaged as an organization in Primary Schools to inculcate several traditional values from the Original Landship plus. We had no qualms of introducing Boy Schools, Girl Guides, Church Lad Brigades, Mother Unions and Cadet Corps because it was mandated by the British Government. All of these organizations required discipline, cooperation, and development of leadership skills

The Landship Movement should be converted into a youth movement like the Boy Scouts or Girl Guides or cadets to maintain this unique aspect of Bajan Culture. These youth Landships would become crucibles of this traditional dance and its musical heritage. Competitions with each other in a series of categories will be organized annually.

The former Barbados National Bank, now Republic Bank, had developed a business program for students that can be incorporated into this Landship Movement. This program can be used to teach money management and savings culture.

CARTS CULTURE

Over the years, Bajans developed a series of carts to move goods and provide services to each other. When compared with Caribbean Islands, the Bajan carts are unique in their design and use. Some of these carts should be adapted and used to provide modern day services while maintaining and projecting our unique heritage. These carts can be decorated and painted to capture individuality of the vendor.

  • Donkey Cart taxis to move visitors from Cruise Ships to Bridgetown and around Resort Areas like St Lawrence Gap, Holetown and Speightstown
  • Bread Carts can be converted to serve hot or cold foods at temporary roadside locations.
  • Rumshops recreated as restaurants serving indigenous food as cuisine with appropriate training available.
  • Snowball Carts selling Bajan ices with locally made fruit juices – Bajan Cherry, Bajan shaddock, Sugar apple, Golden Apple, Packaged Sucking Cane (made from earlier soft varieties), Sea Grape, Guava, Gooseberries, et al
  • Luncheon Carts for food
  • Coconut Carts

MASTER CRAFTSMEN OF BARBADOS

Furniture

There is no doubt that furniture craftsmen/joiners of the past have produced a fantastic array of unique designs. Let us imbue that furniture with the prestige that it deserves`. The palaces/warehouses that some of this furniture is located are

  • Government House, St Michael
  • Ilaro Court, St Michael
  • The Barbados Museum, St Michael
  • Grantley Adams House –Tyrol Cot, Spooners Hill, St Michael
  • The Barbados National Trust Headquarters – Wildey Great House, St Michael
  • Keith Melville’s Sunbury Plantation House, St Phillip

There are many other collections across Barbados that can be used to earn income for the owners as well as for the country.

Training of persons to produce reproductions should follow the same path as training artistes for all types of endeavours – art, music, dance, writing, programing, etc. All Wood Working graduates should be required to reproduce a piece of this furniture in order to graduate. Do it once, do it again! On visits to these locations there are signs indicating cost of item plus shipping costs to rest of the world. Exactly what fine artists do. All art work would be signed and certified as authentic reproductions by a special Reproductions Standard Institute. Marketing will be thru Internet web sites using National ID Codes.

Why are there no tours of Government House? Or Ilaro Court?

  • Bajan Furniture galleries where signed reproductions are also marketed and sold with short histories.

· Chattel houses should be used for restaurants, boutiques especially in the growth areas of St Phillip, St John, St Peter and St Lucy.

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Each area needs to be given prestige thru media and the internet coverage

Computing systems. Knowledge systems. Cognitive. Will still need people contact.

Pottery

Chalky Mount Barbados should be designated as a National Brand as is given to Cropover. This brand should be accessible to all potters operating out of IDC Facilities Island wide. BIDC needs to change its focus to giving full support to developing local entrepreneurs in these areas.

ATTITUDES – Service and Servitude

Actions needed to strengthen our perception of self.

National Heroes

  • A popular edition of book on National Heroes to be sold for $5-10.
  • Comic book versions of National Heroes for primary schools.
  • Cartoon video stories about National heroes.

The Bajan Experience

  • Recreate Rumshops architecturally and spatially not just in the country but in the city extended to the street. Baxter’s Rd, Nelson St, Roebuck St, Palmetto St
  • Use of Donkey cart taxis to move tourists from harbour to the Inner Bridgetown Mall (Swan St, Broad Street, Trafalgar Square, Palmetto St.)
  • Street food using traditional bread carts to serve from
  • Chattel house as hotels etc.

The Rastafarians of Temple Yard

  • Rastas have been around for the last 40 years, manufacturing products, many inbreeding designs, use of hard leather limiting their market primarily to fellow Rastas.
  • Need to develop wider designs especially to reach the visitor and middle class market.
  • Need access to better quality leathers and other products like the high quality leathers made from the Barbados Black Belly sheep skins.

Barbados Black Belly Sheep

The Barbados Black Belly Sheep is a unique animal that evolved in Barbados over time. Studies have shown that the mutton obtained from the Black Belly Sheep produces high quality Triple B (Barbados Black Belly) lamb for both the local and visitors’ market. It also produces some of the finest leather from its skins.

To support the Black Belly development program, unused agricultural lands must be converted into grass pastures and/or growing miamossi plants, also known as river tamarind (Leucaena leucocephala).

This plant exists in Barbados and has a high protein content suitable for feeding ruminants when it is still green. It was introduced by the Ministry of Agriculture in the Pine but has been allowed to grow wild to maturity scattering its seeds across neighbouring fields. Penalties must be implemented against land owners who allow their lands to become infested by those responsible for administering environmental standards.

This plant if managed correctly, will be an important feed ingredient for the Barbados Black Belly sheep. It is from these animals that we can produce –

  • Leather for leather workers (Consultant – Dr Leroy McClean) – bags, shoes, amulets, hair products, books marks, wrist bands, earrings, jackets, head bands,, etc
  • Food (Consultant – Rosemary Parkinson)
  • Reduce foreign exchange spent on importing animal feeds.

Industrial Development Corporation Services

The Industrial Development Corporation must be restructured to invest in the development of future Bajan entrepreneurs by bringing them together in one location at vastly reduced rent to allow them to feed off of each other. IDC is a landlord of buildings at the industrial Estate outside the Bridgetown Harbour. These buildings are deteriorating and are not being maintained. Certainly IDC could offer discounted rates to bring young entrepreneurs together to feed off of each other to supply services to the outside world.

  • Legal Drafting for countries, states and municipalities worldwide
  • Computer software development
  • Video and sound studios
  • Graphic artists
  • Heritage joiners
  • Clothing Designers and manufacturing
  • Animation

Bridgetown Port Duty Free Facilities

Access to duty free facilities at the port should be two-fold:

  • Wholesalers who sell to retailers.
  • Retailers who sell to visitors.

This will allow retailers to use traditional concepts of hawkers to sell products in various combinations. This tradition of bargaining and combining products allows them to determine their own profits but more importantly share in the spoils of the hospitality industry. These newly defined hawkers at the port will be costumed having acquired training at the Barbados Community College (BCC) and Barbados Institute of Management and Productivity (BIMAP).

Other Developments

  • Dr Carmichael – Restoration of Facades on Roebuck St, Swan St, Bay St etc
  • Paul Altman – Enhancement of Jewish Synagogue, oldest in the New World of the Americas.
  • Tyrol Cot Chattel House Village should be a functional village redesigned as a mini tenantry village with a bakery providing freshly baked traditional breads, rumshop, chickens, palings, bread carts, snowball carts, coconut carts, troubadours, et al.
  • Villagers should wear period costumes.

This is about US. This is about Jobs. This is about Pride. This is about Survival.

Baba Elombe Mottley
January 1, 2017.

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969 responses to “The Next FIFTY YEARS of PRIDE and INDUSTRY!”


  1. That was six days from the 6.64 inch downpour the day before independence!!


  2. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.shtml

    Haven’t got a clue what it all means but will look out for the next one on 14th September.

  3. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    La Nina is in town…hunker down.

  4. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @John
    As usual your response simply proves the correctness of my argument.

    Beckles did not lead anyone down the garden path. This episode has actually increased my respect for him considerably: I used to think that he was prone to hyperbole and exaggeration, but this exchange has led me top appreciate how restrained and conservative he was in his indictment of the Barbados plantocracy, using the words ‘malnutrition’ and ‘nutritional related illnesses’ because these are dispassionate scientific terms without the emotional connotation of ‘starvation’. I should have guessed that those legendarily conservative Cambridge University Press peer reviewers would have kept him well into the realm of understatement.

    You can do the demographic analysis yourself and figure out the age distribution of this grim butchers’ bill. Not merely infants, but children up to age ten: always the first to die of chronic malnutrition in conditions of community starvation.

    Of course emancipation increased childhood mortality. The vindictive plantocracy used their power to restrict Black people’s access to land to force them into working on the sugar plantations rather than being self sufficient. Everyone knows this John. How could you imagine it would “drive me bananas.”

    Thank your friend on my behalf for pointing out the glaringly obvious to you. The John I knew 44 years ago had a firm grasp of reality and would not have “spent a while trying to understand how we look so different.” That John aced four Cambridge Advanced level examinations: Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, and Further Mathematics, when normal students were encouraged to attempt no more than two or three at most. I later discovered that Further Mathematics was more advanced that what they taught in second year engineering at a top Canadian university, but you aced it at 17. Now you are confused by a binary distinction of simple percentages the sum of which approximates 100%. It is very sad.

  5. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @John,
    I hope your family in Florida is not harmed by hurricane Irma


  6. Thanks Peter


  7. The John I knew 44 years ago had a firm grasp of reality and would not have “spent a while trying to understand how we look so different.” That John aced four Cambridge Advanced level examinations: Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, and Further Mathematics, when normal students were encouraged to attempt no more than two or three at most. I later discovered that Further Mathematics was more advanced that what they taught in second year engineering at a top Canadian university,

    You were a smart boy John. The BU household echoes Peter’s well wishes to you and yours.


  8. You can do the demographic analysis yourself and figure out the age distribution of this grim butchers’ bill. Not merely infants, but children up to age ten: always the first to die of chronic malnutrition in conditions of community starvation.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I did the analysis for burials only at Westbury in 1960 for children under 10, if you look back I published it here too.

    More than 230.

    Don’t have the data for the other cemeteries in Barbados in that year so maybe double, more or less perhaps.

    Population probably 200K +.

    For the three years prior to 1841, the average for the island according to Schomburgk was 185.

    In 1841 it increased to 596.

    Population about 100K

    I suspect if I had the burial data from all of the other cemeteries in Barbados in 1960, there would not be much of a difference in infant mortality between 1960 and 1841.

    It makes perfect sense in the absence of public health care.

    Yet in 1970, burials of children under 10 in Westbury had fallen almost by a factor of 10.

    It looks as though immediately after emancipation the infant mortality rate rose and 120 years later it was about the same.

    I will look at the years 1878 to 1960 for which I have data in 10 year steps, pretty easy as it is all on spreadsheets.

    Public Health issues … clearly.

    In the early part of the 1900’s there was a single Parochial Medical Officer … one person per parish .. wife probably helped out.

    By the 1960’s pre and post natal clinics at Enmore were going on … used to get vaccinations there … I remember the nurse diligently passing the needle through the flame of a candle as she had been trained before reusing it on me.

    Twenty years later with the advent of aids all hell would have been raised about such a thing and today somebody would go to jail!

    People figure out health matters over time but in the intervening years a lot die.

    What seems to have happened happened at emancipation was the plantation which provided health care for its slaves stopped.

    There was no more child care.

    There was no safety net, no public health, everybody fended for themselves.

    So children died.

    The remark in Schomburgk that negligence was the problem was harsh, but at a time when no public health care existed it was the obvious reason … mothers were not doing their job.

    People learn over time and Governments develop health care budgets to deal with health issues.

    … but, a lot of people die while that is happening.


  9. Here is the comment

    John September 8, 2017 at 6:18 AM #
    Simple Simon
    Prior to the zoning and chlorination effected by the WWD in the early 1960’s, infant mortality was high in Barbados.
    Access to clean drinking water caused many infant deaths.
    For example, in 1950, there were 230 children under the age of 10 who were buried at Westbury Cemetery out of a total number of burials of 960.
    Twenty years later in 1970, there were 66 burials of children under 10 out of a total of 865 burials.
    In 1980, 10 years later, there were 28 burials of children under 10 out of a total of 855 burials at Westbury.
    Most of the infant deaths occurred just months sometimes days after birth.
    That is one of the reasons why I am so concerned about the water supply in Barbados … water may be essential for life but it can kill.
    In those days and before, if a child got past 10 life expectancy was good.
    The oldest person I have come across buried was a 120 year old lady in the late 1800’s a few years after Westbury Cemetery came into being.
    It is a sad fact that through lack of access to clean drinking water many, many infants died in Barbados.
    I clearly remember my father disciplining us as children for drinking from the tap and insisted our water was both boiled and filtered.
    He was a Civil Engineer who had worked in the oilfields of Venezuela and knew exactly the dangers water could pose to health.
    That is probably a reason water in Barbados is of such interest to me.
    Infant mortality is one of the most unpleasant truths about Barbados I have come across in my researches.
    Sir Maurice Byer was knighted for his work as the senior medical officer.
    It was under his watch that infant mortality dropped … he often told me that access clean water was really the reason!!
    … but somebody had to insist!!

  10. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    John,
    I’m very much aware of Dr Byer’s excellent work, but you should also be pointing to the heroic efforts of Dr Frank Ramsey in reducing child mortality in Barbados when we were kids in the 60’s. Note that his signature work was Protein-Energy Malnutrition in Barbados (1980). You should read it. Mr late Father wrote Sir Frank’s eulogy here: http://sir-frank-ramsey.memory-of.com/legacy.aspx

    Even we’ll into our lifetimes malnutrition was a very major problem among poor people in Barbados, not because they “neglected” their children, but because of abject poverty.


  11. I know there was an outbreak of Typhoid in 1907 due to the water source in Farmer’s Gully.

    The burials at Westbury cemetery alone numbered 1600 with about 600 children under 10.

    Ten years later the source ceased being used after a second Typhoid outbreak.

    Our record of stumbling through Public Health pains me every time I decide to try and look at it.

    We play the a$$ with our water and do not even realise the types of issues we have had to overcome in the past.


  12. Thanks David


  13. @Peter

    Didn’t know St. Elmo was your father. A good man. He examined many a member of the BU household at Imperial.

  14. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    John,
    So you see that while I always acknowledged the role of unsafe drinking water in the mortality rates of Bajans, you were sure that had all the answers. You will of course understand that the symptomatic presentation of illness caused by unsafe water makes adults very sick as well and would have been interpreted by the 1841 clergyman as an epidemic, but Schomburgk “was assured by several of the clergy that no epidemic raged that year.”

    You on the other hand asserted that there was never starvation in Barbados. The facts show that even when you and I were jostling each other to buy cutters and sweet drinks from ‘John’ and ‘Mary’ at morning break when we were in Lower First at HC. other poorer Bajan children were still dying of Protein-Energy Malnutrition, ie. starvation.

    Now of course you are correct that bad water likely played some role in the child deaths of 1841. Perhaps this is why Beckles discounts Schomburgk’s figures by 10%. The fact that the previously enslaved population was denied access to the sources of safe drinking water which were almost all on the plantations unless they consented to go back to work for those same plantations was a major cause of this effect.

  15. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    Again John, your research proves my case. You tell us that “there was an outbreak of Typhoid in 1907 due to the water source” but don’t seem to realize that this type of outbreak would have been easily recognized by the 1841 clergy as an epidemic, but Schomburgk “was assured by several of the clergy that no epidemic raged that year.”

  16. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    So you see John, that I have systematically, thoroughly, and irrefutably demolished every one of your racist assertions, often simply by quoting you back to yourself or consulting historical sources that you yourself pointed me towards. The statements that you made which were not overtly racist I have let stand.

    Does this not give you pause? After all, when we were boys you have asserted that you were the smarter of the two of us and I have conceded that indeed you were. How come I am able to so easily prove you to be absolutely in error… unless you have made some fundamental error in your assumptions? Think upon it.


  17. The difference between a HC argument and a Cawmere argument, is that in the latter case, PLT would have told John the inconvenient truth LONG ago….
    …that truth being that he is clearly a RBBB….

    The two o’ wunna spend the whole day exchanging pleasantries ….only to come to the same conclusion…

    @ John
    I don’t think global warming is responsible.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    What you ‘think’ is of FAR LESS consequence than you seem to think.
    What you mean to say is that you DON’T KNOW if global warming is responsible.

    It should ALSO be the response that you SHOULD take to the slave trade…
    Namely,that…
    YOU DON’T Know…. cause bout here, only Vincent cares what you ‘think’…


  18. @Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 9, 2017 at 1:45 PM “everyone who is not a racist understands that the clergyman is covering up for White guilt”

    What white guilt are you talking about?

    One can only feel guilt if one has a conscience.

  19. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ Simple Simon, I’m not talking about guilty feelings, I’m talking about actual guilt, the kind that should get you punished.


  20. @peterlawrencethompson September 9, 2017 at 9:22 PM “Even we’ll into our lifetimes malnutrition was a very major problem among poor people in Barbados, not because they “neglected” their children, but because of abject poverty.”

    Indeed.

    My parents were not neglectful, stupid, lazy or spendthrift. They were loving, smart, highly committed to each other and to their children. In fact they were excellent parents; however in the early years of their marriage they lived in abject poverty SOLELY because of extremely low wages. However they were eventually able to raise almost a dozen children safely to adulthood, including my sibling for whom a coffin was prepared in the early 1940’s. That sibling is still alive. But in order to keep their children alive my father had to leave his young wife and small children and to remain away from Barbados for more than 5 years. This couple, my parents endured a 5 year separation very very early in their marriage. It is remarkable that the marriage survived for more than 60 years.

    The years 1967 to 2017 years have not been perfect for my family, but these years have certainly been better than 1917 to 1967, or 1867 to 1917, or 1817 to 1867.

    Our children are no longer dying of hunger. We have been able to acquire some land (although no plantation yet) and all of the grandchildren of my parents have been university educated and have moved into the professions.

    Unlike John and Vincent I do not look back at the period 1627 to 1966 with nostalgia.

    For our family that period was not the good old days. It was a period of profound suffering.


  21. So we are now saying that the past 50 years have been a success and we want more of the same after whining constantly about the failure they have been!!

    If that’s the case, forget the last 300 plus years and trying to learn anything from them ….

    …. forget reparations and all that crap ….

    ….. “upward and onward we shall go inspired exulting free”

    ….”and greater shall our nation grow in strength and unity”!!

    The end!!

  22. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lotta crap John…it is a hell of a lot more complicated than that, you dont get a happy ever after let’s move on ending, not in this one, there has to be an accounting…

    The coming generations of descendants of slaves will be a hell of a lot less sympathetic, a lot less tolerant and definitely sentimental than I am……toward racism and those who insist on practicing it and using it as a weapon against the majority black populations for financial gain, particularly on Islands like Barbados….which should tell you a lot.

    There has to be an accounting, many of you racists should be glad ya will be long dead and in ya graves…when your descendents will be called to account, then again, the way that Karma is swiftly dispensing justice in these times…as deserved, ya may be right here not only to witness it, but also to get a dose of the retribution ya ancestors escaped…sins of the fathers….

    Ya maybe able to think ya hoodwinking some of the weaker ones on BU.., but ya gotta come a hell of a lot better with me, and I can assure you…..ya are not capable..

    I know you beasts too well.

  23. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    The coming generations of descendants of slaves will be a hell of a lot less sympathetic, a lot less tolerant and definitely A LOT LESS sentimental than I am…

  24. Talking Loud Saying Nothing Avatar
    Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    John is a tremendous advocate for white supremacy. He is to Barbados what Goebbels was to Germany. The Johns of this world mythologise the history of the slave economy as it was a period that brought in untold wealth and power for a tiny minority at the expense of the majority. He is a man comfortable in his skin and his believes.

    The coming generations of slave descendants will have to make the decision as to whether or not they tip toe around their history or whether they lance the boil. We do ourselves a great disservice by engaging with John.

    We have been travelling, aimlessly, in the desert for too long in the Caribbean region. I believe that the final solution is the only possible answer for our people. Haiti showed us the way.

    Meanwhile here is a video from Brazil which highlights what we are up against. A part of the world full of Johns!

    http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/listeningpost/2017/09/brazil-media-monopolies-political-manipulations-170909072110030.html

  25. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    John is weak and powerless…incapable of preventing or deterring the future manifesting of realites that have already started to be unleashed…

    the powers and forces that have been released are beyond the reach of the diseased minds of mentally unstable racists and white supremacists…they will never not even in another 5 million years be able to connect to, see or recognize the powerful forces now at play…their days of evil and darkness has successfully binded and blinded them permanently.

    only the chosen will see and recognize the spiritual depth of these powers, the blind are doomed….John and his fellow racist beasts and wannabe white supremacists in Barbados are nothing and nobodies.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hurricane-irma-hits-florida-cuba-bahamas-sucks-water-beach-dry-category-5-a7938701.html

    welcome to the reality of true powers that man has no control over and are too weak to emulate.

    ….Video footage has shown how a record-breaking Atlantic storm sucked water from the Bahamas shoreline.

    Hurricane Irma, a Category 5 storm which ripped through the Caribbean Islands on its way to Florida and has killed at least 24 people, left bare beaches along the coastline of the Bahamas.

    “I am in disbelief right now… This is Long Island, Bahamas and the ocean water is missing!!!” tweeted @Kaydi_K. “That’s as far as they see. #HurricaneIrma.”

    According to the Washington Post, this rare phenomenon is caused by a strong hurricane and resulting low pressure, which sucks water into the core of the storm.

    For a few hours or days, a storm can even change the shape of an ocean.

    As the wind blew from southeast to northwest on Saturday, the water would be blown away from the shoreline on the northwest side of Long Island.

    Adrian @deejayeasya
    Sea gone dry 😶 #HurricaneIrma #Bahamas @weatherchannel
    1:24 AM – Sep 9, 2017 · Bahamas
    118 118 Replies 4,097 4,097 Retweets 9,273 9,273 likes

    Friday Setton @Lizardchips
    Replying to @deejayeasya and 2 others
    Sometimes that means it’s going to come back with a vengeance… please be careful out there!
    Follow
    Adrian @deejayeasya
    It came back 😊 pic.twitter.com/MEbtRoP4Ap
    4:38 PM – Sep 9, 2017
    View image on Twitter
    22 22 Replies 320 320 Retweets 420 420 likes

    Over the weekend more than six million people were ordered to evacuate Florida as the storm moved towards the western coast of the US.

    Cuba was hit on Saturday with winds of up to 160mph, the first time the island had suffered such a strong hurricane since 1924.

    The hurricane has since been downgraded to a Category 3, but the National Hurricane Centre predicted it would strengthen again as it moved towards the US.

    25 minutes ago
    Gone Fission
    If that were me I’d be going the other way to find some high ground. Although I’d also expect that it was the storm causing this there is another phenomenon that can make the sea disappear – an imminent tsunami. It’s quite normal for the sea to disappear, people to go onto the beach to look or to pick up fish, then get drowned as the tsunami rolls up the beach.


  26. 50 years is a blink of an eye in just one lifetime
    Only a few oldies are 50+
    But that 50 years there has been a dispensation for black peoples rights from US Civil rights, Removal of apartheid states in South Africa and Rhodesia and some steps made against racism towards some equality in white countries, although there has been regression back to racism again disguised as anti-immigration anti-muslim anti-asian anti-mexican anti-black integration.
    Fighting against racism is a daily operation and way of life in wicked west.
    Militancy is an effective tool.


  27. Peter’s basic position:

    I fled Barbados in 1976 with my meagre scholarship because I saw things going wrong.

    Now I feel I owe Barbados!!

    Bush Tea’s basic position:

    The devil overtook Barbados and now his pitch fork is its symbol!!

    Logical conclusion:

    The past 50 years have been a disaster!!

    Response:

    What was good about the time these guys say was good?

    How did it get so good?

    How was Barbados guided “these past 300 years”?

    Turns out their base positions are not so sincere!!


  28. John has lost it…..

  29. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    let not thine heart be troubled John….KARMA will fix everything

  30. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    John, you are a glutton for humiliation.

    Bush Tea’s position and mine are not in conflict. The past 50 have been a disaster in direct proportion to our failure to completely eradicate the much bigger disaster of the previous 300 years.

  31. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Bush Tea,
    You are right to call me out for exchanging pleasantries with racists, but it is not fair to blame HC.

    When I was little my maiden great aunt used to tell me “If you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing.” I was not a perfect student, so I didn’t learn her lesson properly.

    So if I have nothing nice to say, I say something nasty, but in a nice way. 😉


  32. The Profitability of Sugar Planting in the British West Indies, 1650-1834
    J. R. Ward

    Finally got the article!!

    Basically it contradicts previous publications that say the Sugar Industry was unprofitable

    There are thus two schools of scholastic thought.

    But in the very first paragraph of the Article there is a fundamental flaw.

    The basic assumption is that people came to make money.

    I got this hammered into me from school and believed it until ….. !!!

    This was not the reason at all!!

    Profitability or unprofitability and all the been counting and assumptions do not matter one iota.

    Both sets of scholarly publications are irrelevant.

    The first English that came to Barbados came in 1626/7 after the settlement in New England.

    Barbados/the Caribbean, was important because of the Atlantic currents and the reliance on sail.

    Barbados was peopled first by Puritans and was the natural way to their settlement in “New” England.

    The Puritans came to the” New” World to escape religious persecution in England.

    The word “New” gives away the intent of the settlement!!

    The Quakers come on the scene in 1648 and were themselves, fleeing persecution from the Puritans who came to power after the first Civil War ended in 1648.

    The result of the Quaker experience on Barbados was the abolition of the slave trade and of slavery itself.

    That is all that matters.

    For sure the plantations in Barbados were unprofitable … all you have to do is go to the Archives and check the records of Plantations which passed through the Court of Chancery!!

    R.L. Ward’s article is therefore incorrect for much of the period it covers.

    Even Kendal went through the process, it was unprofitable and the creditors foreclosed.

    Bean counting is not necessary to understand the fact of unprofitability!!

    The Sugar Industry has to be viewed from an economic standpoint, not a financial one.

    The economic cost/benefit analysis must contain the abolition of the slave trade and slavery on the benefit side.

    The reason wages were low after slavery is because of the very unprofitability of the plantations.

    But it has to be weighed against the economic benefit of the abolition of slavery!!

    Simple Simon, I say again, your concept of the millions of dollars the sugar barons derived from their operations in Barbados is flawed.

    For sure your family saw hell, most if all did.

    But it was caused by the basic unprofitability of the sugar industry and the refusal to let go because of the overall economic value.

    All Bajans suffered deprivations because of this fundamental fact of life.

    Barbados itself makes no financial sense ….. just look at the debt we owe.

    We are not even breaking even, the debt rises as it did with individual plantations in the past!!!

    There is no court of chancery.

    But there is an economic point of view to be addressed.

    You can’t just shut down and stop the bleeding.

    One answer for an individual is to flee …. but that won’t work because things are tough all over and countries are faced with the same economic reality.

    Better to suffer in the warm than the cold!!


  33. After all the discussion about the comparison between the “past 300 years” and the past 50 years there is one fundamental difference.

    Today we have no core values that justify the sacrifice of operating a country at a financial loss.

  34. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    my recollection is that I beat you every time
    @John,

    It seems that it is my cross to bear to try to lead you out of the dark place of your White supremacist worldview. I do this because I am a Bajan and you are a Bajan. Barbados development is being seriously impaired by the remnants of White supremacist ideology left over from our first 300 years. It is a major factor that has crippled our development in the past 50 years. It does not infect only those with light skin or European ancestry.

    You acknowledge at last that for the first 300 years of Simple Simon’s Bajan ancestors “For sure your family saw hell…” You’re damn right John, and Lucifer lived in the Great Houses complaining about how sugar wasn’t profitable enough.

    You dismiss J. R. Ward’s closely reasoned and impeccable analysis of plantation profitability because it is not in agreement with you prejudices. Instead you invite us to “go to the Archives and check the records of Plantations which passed through the Court of Chancery.” A simple contemporary analogy will show you how inane this argument is: Silicon Valley companies go bankrupt left right and centre… your logic would have us conclude that Silicon Valley is unprofitable. Do you see how idiotic that is now?

    The reason that every argument you advance is so easily shredded by someone you “beat […] every time” intellectually during our school days is that you have internalized a profound rot at the core of your cognition, White supremacist ideology.

    You seem to have believed people who told you that you are personally responsible for the crimes of those long dead who have a genetic connection to you. You are not. You are responsible for your own behaviour. Your own behaviour is reprehensible because you try to defend monstrous crimes. But those are not your crimes… it is not up to you to try to find extenuating circumstances or counter examples. Just accept the truth and stop condemning your own soul by propagating lies.

    The people who instigated the grievous harm done to you over the past decades came from the same type of privileged backgrounds, went to the same schools as we did, are even also genetically related to you at some point. Barbados is a very small island and it would not surprise me if I were a distant cousin of yours myself (St Philip Wards on my mother’s side most likely). Some of my ancestors were among the plantocracy as well, but genetic relationship does not communicate culpability or guilt. You are responsible for your own behaviour… I dearly hope that you attempt to improve it.


  35. @ PLT
    Perhaps John feels guilty of the past 300 years of slavery and torment to Blacks because he knows himself to possess the EXACT same mindset that drove those devils back then…
    … a guilty conscience could be a hell of a thing…

    Unlike Money B, for example, who is able to internalise the UNFAIRNESS of what happened back then, and to DISASSOCIATE himself from that wickedness…
    If only Money B did not inherit the albino centric gene that has driven his financial success, he could pass easily for a poor bushman… 🙂


  36. http://sir-frank-ramsey.memory-of.com/legacy.aspx

    Sir Frank Ramsey was a forerunner of Dr. Humby.

    Check what happened to Dr. Humby!!

    Got kicked out of Barbados by Sir Grantley for “shocking the Nation’s conscience.

    Basically said to parents, don’t dress up your children for Sunday and neglect their nutrition.

    Isn’t this what the clergy man was saying more than a 100 years earlier?

  37. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    Dr. Humby was before Frank Ramsay. He was racist and Grantley Adams got him sent back to England.


  38. Two old Kolij boys in combat over “history”.

    One a white supremacist, the other a well educated returning national from a privileged black Bajan background.

    A white rice and black bean blog.

  39. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    John,

    You, Dr. Humby, and the Clergy quoted in Shomburgk make the same mistake rooted in White supremacist ideology, blaming the victim. You know perfectly well that Dr. Humby was lying because you know that this was late 1950’s when this took place. You know that the desperate parents who brought their starving children to the hospital for emergency care were dirt poor agricultural workers. Yet you are ready to believe his preposterous and heinous allegation that these poor people “spend thousands dressing […] children beautifully on Sundays.” These were people whose money was always counted in coppers, who never saw hundreds throughout their entire existence, yet Dr. Humby insults them by calling them “primitive” and telling them that they are wasting “thousands.”

    And you swallow it all hook, line and sinker in your desperation to blame the victims of horrendous injustice.

    You used to be clever enough to see through the Dr. Humbys of this world at a glance. I find it tragic not only that you no longer can, but that you have drunk the racist koolaid yourself.


  40. Peter

    Use your head.

    You want starvation so bad you are willing to avoid the facts.

    If there was all this starvation, it would not only have been children but adults who died.

    I am going to look at infant mortality on plantations during slavery and compare it to what pertained in the 1900’s.

    I am willing to bet you that it will be lower!!

    How did Sir Frank Ramsey accomplish his goals?

    By educating and tending to the mothers.

    That is where part of the problem of infant mortality lay.

  41. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hants,
    The combat is not over “history,” it is over our collective future.

    Since my return I have met so many Black Bajans who have internalized John’s poison in the most insidious ways: thinking that the Trinidadian conglomerate Massy that bought BS&T is somehow worse for Barbados than BS&T was, thinking that buying imported pasta at four times the price of locally manufactured pasta means they have better taste, thinking they have arrived because the bank gave them a loan that they gave to Kyffin Simpsonso they could try to make their neighbors envious of their new Benz…

    It all has its roots in Bajans’ tacit acceptance of White supremacist ideology, even though they are not aware of the fact that their minds have been poisoned.

  42. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    Bullshit again John,
    Frank Ramsey accomplished his goals by simply giving food to starving children. Read up on it! You also are aware, or should be, that children under ten are the first to succumb to chronic malnutrition and starvation. Have you not seen photos from famine stricken communities anywhere in the world?

    When I was a child in the 60s in particular, my mother & father would take us when they packed large boxes of groceries to give to my poorer relatives, mostly on my father’s side in Belleplaine, several times per year. That is how some of my relatives avoided malnutrition. It is a pity that your folk did not do the same; it would have been an education for you.

  43. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    John,
    Of course Frank Ramsey had to educate the mothers as well as help feed their children. One of the hardest things to teach them in that era was to breast feed their babies and avoid the infant formula that the merchant class was trying to sell them.


  44. @ Peter Thompson
    Throughout most of the 1960s E.D. Mottley provided free food in his Queen’s Park kitchens. Although ostensibly for City dwellers, he in fact fed people from all over the country. @Rugged is one of those people now written out of Barbadian social history, all because of the envy and nastiness of Errol Barrow, whose fan club calls him the father of independence.


  45. I have a cousin who a doctor took one look at and said malnutrition.

    He should know because he was from the war, and came from Germany here after it.

    That was in the 1960’s.

    The thing was her family was well off and her mother was a nurse.

    I guess she would not eat.

  46. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    John,
    Of course the child mortality rate went up after emancipation… that’s what I have been trying to hammer into your thick skull. The end of slavery was not the end of Barbados being a living hell.

    The former slaves were grossly underpaid. How do we know this? Simple. When the planters demanded compensation for their loss of “property” upon emancipation the British government offered them a sum which the planters rejected as insufficient. The compromise they reached was the apprenticeship system; the remainder of the compensation to the planters was the value of the continued enforced labour over the apprenticeship period. Now compare that figure to what the planters actually paid the ex-slaves after the apprenticeship period was over. It was a tiny percentage of what they had said the slaves’ labour was worth only a few years before.

    The former slaves were deprived of land on which to produce their own food. The planters did this in order to force them to come back to work for the plantation, but it also had the effect of starving children to death!


  47. peterlawrencethompson September 10, 2017 at 12:57 PM #
    Dr. Humby was before Frank Ramsay. He was racist and Grantley Adams got him sent back to England.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    What was the name of the English Doctor who raised hell about Aids in the 1980’s and got deported?

    Was he racist too?

  48. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    John,
    Malnutrition exists in some well off households around the world, often as anorexia, bulimia or other eating disorders.

  49. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    John,
    I don’t know much about the case of the “English Doctor who raised hell about Aids.” I do know that Bajan homophobia harmed attempts to treat the disease rationally. I vaguely recall that he said that Bajan’s would go extinct or some such nonsense, so whether racist or not, he was wrong.

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