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The following comment was posted on another blog by Simple Simon in response to a question from BU about the sudden closure of Alma Parris, a school that was established to serve special needs children. Is there a need for such a school in Barbados? – Barbados Underground

@David June 29, 2017 at 10:49 AM “An impassioned interrogation by Cynthia Forde of the Ministry of Education on the talk show today, why was the Alma Parris School at Speightstown closed without proper disclosure?”

You can be sure that the Ministry of Education would not dare to close Harrison College, or Lord forbid Combermere School unless there was first extensive consultation with “stakeholders”

According to M.P. Cynthia Forde on Brasstacks on Thursday, the teachers and the principal were informed about the school’s closure after 2 p.m. on Monday. It seems that the students were informed on Tuesday morning, and that the parents like the rest of us heard about the school’s closure on VOB’s 12:30 p.m. news on Tuesday afternoon. This is not good enough.

Was this a hasty decision? When did the Chief Education Officer first hear of the closure? When did the School Board hear? When did Cabinet hear? Was the Chief Education Officer consulted about the closure? Or was she simply told? Was the School’s Board consulted about the closure or was the Board simply informed? Was Cabinet consulted about about the closure or was Cabinet presented with the Cabinet paper regarding the school’s closure only at their Thursday morning meeting?

Is the school’s closure a part of the Ministry of Education’s clumsy attempts to deal with declining enrolment because of declining birth rates? And if so why Alma Parris? Is it not true that the parents of Alma Parris students have more that done their patriotic duty by producing more than the average number of children unlike those demographically unpatriotic parents who have produced a single child for Combermere or Harrison College.

This school’s closure means that these special needs students will be separated from their peers, siblings, cousins etc. come September. Changing schools is stressful for even the best of students, for these students the change will be even more stressful, and will increase the likelihood that these students will withdraw from school.

The truth is that when it comes to special needs students we never treat them as well as we treat the “bright’ ones.

A society is judged by how it treats its most vulnerable “mene, mene, tekel, upharsin (Daniel 5:25)”

We will be weighed in the balance and found wanting.


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95 responses to “Alma Parris School Shutdown”


  1. Is it our minister of education seen acting in the most vulgar way on the Nation? If so, is he fit and proper to be in charge of the nation’s youths?


  2. My sources in education told me that ths is a case similar to Alexandra.

    It is alleged that the principal is the problem. There are allegations that he is the minister’s friend.

    My sources tell me that the teachers were very frustrated, felt that the principal was not or could not deal with matters arising from dealing daily with challenged children………they felt frustrated and absenteeism was high.

    It would seem therefore that rather deal with the problem……..which would probably mean a breakup of the friendship…………..the easy way out was taken to close the school…………never mind how many other people would be disadvantaged.


  3. Why would you close a whole school because of a headmaster?


  4. You have no idea what passes as governance today! Did not this same ministry nearly break up a whole school because of a headmaster already?

    A precedence was set, David.


  5. How will absorbing the special needs children in mainstream impact their development?


  6. In the VOB evening news, it was reported that the ministry met with some parents today. No report of this meeting on CBC tonight…..I dont listen to CBC but did so tonight.

    The children will be sent to Darryl Jordan, St George and another school which I cannot remember now. So you see the pattern……stick them in the schools which are already facing huge challenges daily. St George Secondary is a war zone daily, my sources tell me.

    Some parents with kids over 16 asked for them to be sent to skills training and were at first told that there was no room. However the minister “assured” them afterwards that places would be found for the children. I really hope so!


  7. Stop referring to those kids as ‘special needs’.


  8. @ David
    Why would you close a whole school because of a headmaster?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    What you REALLY mean to ask is :
    …’Why would an intelligent person close a whole school because of a headmaster?”
    …you know full well …that we both can give a dozen reasons why Jones would do so…

    Our ass is SOOOO grass!!!!


  9. @Kevin

    Why was the Alma Parris Memorial School established?


  10. @Prodigal Son July 6, 2017 at 2:48 PM “My sources in education told me…It is alleged that the principal is the problem. There are allegations that he is the minister’s friend…Prodigal Son @July 6, 2017 at 7:31 PM “St George Secondary is a war zone daily, my sources tell me.”

    Dear Prodigal:

    Methinks that thy needs some new sources man. Why don’t you go outside, let the wind blow pun ya, talk to real, real people, see with your own eyes, smell the roses, hang around in the bus stand, go to church, etc. etc.

    Then perhaps when your sources tell you bare igrance…you will recognize it as such.

    There is a huge difference between a mutually respectful professional relationship and being friends.

    Are Mr. Jones and Mr. Francis godfathers to each others children? Do they lime at the rum-shop together? Do they eat pudding and souse together on Saturdays? Do they play dominoes together? Do they go to each other’s family weddings and funerals?

    Study ya head man.

    And anyway wha’ ya boy Owen got to say about the closure of this school in his constituency?


  11. Mr Jones says that no particular school is better than another. However it seems the same may not be true of principals. The principal of Alma Parris School is obviously not good enough to be placed at either Combermere or the Frederick Smith school or the Springer Memorial school. It is notable that the Alma Parris students are to be transferred to Darryl Jordan Secondary, St George Secondary or Grantley Adams Secondary. I remember, some years ago, at my child’s primary school, the principal telling us parents that if our children did not “pass” the common entrance they would be offered places at one those three schools because “there are always places there as few people choose those schools”.

    I wonder if Mr Jones will dispel the rumors that the reason why some schools did not issue student reports yesterday was because of the ministry’s non payment of the bill for the internet based student report system?

  12. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    I am way too disgusted with Jackass Jones to comment here on this subject right.

    Glad to see the world saw his hypocrisy. his wukking up mentality on that NYC video, he is just a repugnant, disgusting mirror image of all the other ministers, senators, speakers of the house, house slaves of parliament.


  13. BU would be so much better if bloggers did not seek to denigrate each others contribution. If you have nothing to contribute to the topic, read and go your way!

    We are discussing an issue……. putting reasons for the closure of an institution which was set up for a pressing need for at risk children and it is brought down to the level of liming in a rum shop.

    SMH!!!!


  14. I am sure that we all remember when Owen said words to the effect that land should go to the highest bidder. What if the DLP holds the EXACT SAME philosophy? Am I the only one who noticed that last Friday when the Minister spoke at George Street about the closure of the Alma Parris School that he also mentioned that two new medical schools would be opened. Man we got to learn to put two and two together. The Americans, vey, very smart people have a saying, “follow the money.” What if a school for special needs is not a profit center. What if an off shore medical school in that same location is a profit center and can for many, many years bring in serious money? What if a few hundred wealthy medical students can add some life to Speightstown, money for government, money for supermarkets, money for landlords, money for restaurants, money for watersports operators, money for churches (lol!!! they like money as much as the rest’ ‘o we too), enought money rolling into Speightstown, that our dear Owen or his replacement is rolled right out of his secure St. Peter seat.

    As the Americans say “follow the money.”


  15. Some ‘o wunna say that you don’t go to George Street pun a Fridays. You really should.

    Some ‘o wunna don’t go rubbing shoulders with Mia and the B’s. You really should.

    Some ‘o wunna don’t listen to CBC/DLPTV. You really should.

    Some ‘o wunna don’t read the Nation. You really should.

    Some ‘o wunna don’t read the Advocate. You really should. I can’t believe that I have said that.

    If ya don’t go to different churches/temples/synagogues/mosques (politically speaking of course) how do you ever expect to learn the WHOLE TRUTH?


  16. What is the downside if any to populating Barbados with these medical schools? Especially if the government is allowing locals to attend. It must impact Cave Hill?


  17. @Prodigal Son July 7, 2017 at 10:02 AM “We are discussing an issue…it is brought down to the level of liming in a rum shop.

    @Prodigal Son July 6, 2017 at 2:48 PM “It is alleged that the principal is the problem. There are allegations that he is the minister’s friend.”

    I wonder what would have happened if some’o wunna allegators din’ bring it down to the level of “‘e is the Minister’s friend”?

    Stupssseee!!!


  18. David July 7, 2017 at 4:18 PM “What is the downside…?”

    True dat David.

    But sometimes if ya desperate fa money ya does have to sell the only fowl cock in de yard to the itinerant salesman, even though ya own children hungry.

    An election coming up. Where de money?

    Desperate times demand desperate measures.

    Simple Simon neither “B” nor “D” but only de idiot who does ask real, real foolish questions.


  19. David,
    Remember the excuse used for invading Grenada, an illegal act that gave rise to the RSS.


  20. Stop thinking of Speightstown as a almost dead, shabby, 18th century town.

    Instead see Speightstown as as a beautiful historic town, with west coast beaches, a library, a museum, supermarkets, vibrant fruit and vegetable and fish markets, churches, a police station within walking distance, one of the best artisanal bakeries in Barbados, ready access to public transportation, not one, but 2 older secondary schools, a number of beautiful historic buildings just begging to be converted into professor’s residences and student dorms…Bajans may not have money (or may be they prefer to put their money to rot away in bank vaults in New York and London) or may not see the potential of Speightstown, but there are plenty of people in the world with money and who see the potential.


  21. @Hal Austin July 7, 2017 at 4:26 PM “Remember the excuse used for invading Grenada, an illegal act that gave rise to the RSS.”

    Grenada was invaded because one set of YOUNG BLACK MEN, took another set of YOUNG BLACK MEN and one morning put them up against a wall and shoot them DEAD, DEAD, DEAD with MILITARY guns provided by de white people dem.

    This in a country of 100,000 people where everybody famly to everybody else.

    Power? You so hungry to take power over 50,000 peasans and their lil’ hungry children that you willing to shoot you grandmother, third cousin son in the head with a gun that the white people give you?


  22. That said the Ministry of Education should consult with the students, their parents, their guidance counsellors, their teachers, the principal, psychologists etc to ensure that each child is optimally placed so that each child can reach his or her full potential.

    Just this morning on Talk ya Talk Uncle Jeff was relation a case of one of these very special children who was born in the 6th month of pregnancy weighing 1 pound 6 ounces and who has therefore struggled because through no fault of her own she has had such a difficult start in life. If this child needed 4 months in the hospital before the doctors REASONED that she was fit to be discharged she could the question now is why are we seeking to discharge her from secondary school just because she is 16?

    The doctors did not discharge her from hospital at 24 hours old as 8 pound babies are discharged, so why can’t we the taxpayers continue to pay for her education until she reaches the emotional/neurological/psycholgical/academic age of 16? Do we really believe that a series of numbers on a birth certificate is the be all and end all? That question for the Minister self.

    And notice to all ‘o we. Anyone of us can have such a child, or grandchild, neice or nephew by January 1, 2018, even though nobody in our family is pregnant as of July 7, 2017.

    The old people had sense. They knew that wha’ int catch ya, ain’t pass ya yet.

  23. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Simple….I dont know why Hal is trying to rewrite Grenada’s history, he knows it was that animal Bernard Coard, who he said did nothing wrong, with Coard’s cannibal for a white british wife, who drunk and greedy for power…murdered Maurice Bisho the prime minister, the 8 months pregnant Jacqueline Creft and 17 others…just because they wanted power.

    But there is Hal…lying to his heart’s content to rewrite history, the US is a lot of things which I take pleasure in pointing out, but they were invited by Caribbean leaders…Dominica’s Eugenia Charles and Barbados’ Tom Adams….to invade Grenada, as a firner journalist, Hal should know this, but there he is soreading propoganda.

    ….you either have RSS patroling and securing those tiny island borders or the US and Brits will do it for you…you cannot have it both ways, pain in the ass Hal.

  24. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    At that tome the Caribbean had no security services, they should have called Hal instead.

  25. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    I am still to emotionally pissed to discuss this topic, it will take a while.


  26. Hal needs to understand that a lot of us were reasonable, thinking adults during the period October 19 to 25, 1983.

    Hal needs to understand that we are still reasonable thinking adults.

    If he wishes to rewrite history he will have to wait until we are dead.

    Unfortunately for him we are not anywhere near dead yet.

  27. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    “Tree of Knowledge” by Dion J. Pollard.
    WE HAVE TO BE MADE DUMB TO EXIST IN THIS SITUATION! We have been robbed of our common sense, our intellectual capacity, our culture, creativity and sense of reality. Having been taught to be dumb, Africans will experience a CONSCIOUSNESS, an INTELLECTUAL EXPANSION, a CLARITY OF VISION, a SPIRITUAL HARMONY and an INCREASE IN INTELLIGENCE, when we summon the COURAGE to regain and reclaim our AFRICAN IDENTITY, CONSCIOUSNESS, CULTURE & TIME – Dr. Amos Wilson”


  28. Coard’s wife was not British. She is an uptown “browning” Jamaican. And even though it was claimed when she was released from prison more that 10 years ago that she had breast cancer and needed treatment outside of Grenada, it appears that unfortunately she is not dead yet, and in fact continues to live the life of a privileged uptown “browning” Jamaican woman.


  29. @Prodigal Son July 7, 2017 at 10:02 AM “BU would be so much better if bloggers did not seek to denigrate each others contribution. If you have nothing to contribute to the topic, read and go your way!”

    You trying to silence me?

    Lolll!!!

  30. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Ok Simple…she should still be rotting in prison, or hung years ago, so should Coard.

  31. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Prodigal Son July 6, 2017 at 2:48 PM

    Don’t you get tired telling lies?

    The school was underutilised. Its school population was dwindling to nothing. Parents were loathe to send their charges to that school. It is considered in Bajan circles as the Duncey school and it stigmatised the students for life.

  32. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Another school which is just like that and will close down in the near future is the Edna Nicholls school. That is a school for delinquent children which scars children into perpetuity.

  33. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ C. Cadogan July 7, 2017 at 7:33 PM
    “Prodigal Son July 6, 2017 at 2:48 PM
    Don’t you get tired telling lies?
    The school was underutilised. Its school population was dwindling to nothing. Parents were loathe to send their charges to that school. It is considered in Bajan circles as the Duncey school and it stigmatised the students for life.”

    Come on Carrion, the school cannot be that badly ‘stigmatized ‘having produced outstanding graduates like both good yourself and the other mentally-challenged yard-fowl “ac” aka Angela Skeete the accredited cretin.

    After the upcoming whitewash of the DLP there would be so much space left at George Street that all the “Duncey school” children could attend with Stinkliar teaching them the difference between fractions, decimals and percentages every Friday afternoon.


  34. @Carson C. Cadogan July 7, 2017 at 7:33 PM “The school was underutilised. Its school population was dwindling to nothing. Parents were loathe to send their charges to that school. It is considered in Bajan circles as the Duncey school and it stigmatised the students for life.”

    If this is so, then how come parents are objecting to the school’s closure?


  35. @Carson C. Cadogan July 7, 2017 at 7:36 PM “Another school which is just like that and will close down in the near future is the Edna Nicholls school. That is a school for delinquent children which scars children into perpetuity.”

    And when you close the Edna Nicholls school, where will you send children who need to be separated from negative influences for a period of time time, and given the intensive therapy which they need so that they can learn to moderate their troublesome behaviour?


  36. Are we going to close the hospital next? because as we know hospitals are deeply stigmatizing places.

    All those sick people…really, really sick people…Oh Lord, some of them are even dying people, some of them are even dead people.

    Let us therefore close all the hospitals so that nobody is ever again subjected to the stigma of death.


  37. LOL
    That is a school for delinquent children which scars children into perpetuity.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    What an idiot!!

    What ‘scars children into perpetuity’ is the delinquency into which they are allowed to fall. When these delinquents are left in the regular system with other vulnerable children, they can scar a WHOLE GENERATION for life…. These schools were created to prevent that…

    No wonder they see increasing taxes as the answer to their over spending.
    With these jackasses in charge of Bim, it is no wonder that we are on our last legs….


  38. @Carson C. Cadogan July 7, 2017 at 7:33 PM “The school was underutilised. Its school population was dwindling to nothing.”

    Don’t you get tired of telling lies for the DLP? One day, sooner or later you will have to meet your God. And what excuse will you offer him for the lies which you have told for the DLP?

    The Alma Parris school was designed for 150 children, as of last week the school was educating 143 children. How can that be considered a serious decline?

    And in addition all sensible people know that special education is optimally delivered in a small school setting. You know as well as I do that parents with money who have special needs children seek to send them to small schools such as the Derrick Smith School And Vocational Centre which has been designed to educate a maximum of 100 adults and 70 children in any school year. Click on the link below to see your Prime Minister and your Minister of Education at the $20 million official opening just 27 months ago. “The facility will have a staff complement of about 30…Government will be responsible for the operational costs by way of subvention.” How much will this subvention be? My understanding is that it means that government, that is we the taxpayers are paying the staff, paying for the utilities, paying for the maintenance, paying for the equipment and materials for the workshops, paying for the cultivation services and seeds for the school’s agricultural plot, waiving the property tax etc., etc., for ever and ever. About $20 million per year I think. Fair enough. But what about the Alma Parris School, how much money was that school receiving? About $2 million per year maybe for a school with the same number of students as the Derrick Smith School? Was the Alma Parris School adequately funded? If not why not? And if the Alma Parris school was to be closed would it not have made good sense for them to be transferred to the Derrick Smith School?

    But no we have idiots like Carson C. Cadogan talking foolishness about a school stigmatising children, so shut it down, and Kevin saying not to call the children special needs when his own Minister of Education uses the same phrase “special needs” as though shutting the Alma Parris School, or refusing to acknowledge the special needs of these children will make special needs children go away. And the DLP holds such idiots close to its bosom.

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2015/04/17/us10m-special-needs-facility-opened/


  39. And note that we the tax payers will be subsidizing the education of young adults up to the age of 23 or 24 at the Derrick Smith School. Nobody is putting them out of the formal school system just because they have turned 16 (on their birth certificates only). Please note that in yesterday’s media some of the parents of the Alma Parris students have rejected the Ministry’s “offer” to put their 16 year olds out of school. The parents know that their children can benefit from formal education beyond the age of 16, and perhaps up to the age of 23 or 24 just like the Derrick Smith students.


  40. @Bush Tea

    He should mention that what stigmatizes and tratramutizes children also is when the state agencies fail to deliver on their mandate, for example, the Child Care Board. How many children have died because of the negligence and incompetence?

  41. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    “”How many children have died because of the negligence and incompetence?””

    NONE/

  42. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Even at Primary school , children would tease each other by telling them that they are going to Alma Parris. More than a few fights have started as a result.

    Increasingly parents were refusing to put down Alma Parris schoo as a school of choice for their children especially since the school was seen as the Duncey school of Barbados. The evidence is there no matter how much you Barbados Labour Party brown nosers try not to accept it.

  43. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    DAVID

    Any of your Great grand children attend Alma Parris school?

  44. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Carson…you are such a useless piece of shit, those special needs students should have theur own transportation, the best special needs teachers, they should not all be lumped together in one environment but exposed to the wider education system so their skills can be assessed and their contributions to society identified, they do have a contribution to make.

    Unlike you who think your only contribution to society should be bribery and corruption and picking up hundreds of millions of taxpayer and pension dollars to give to the parasitic Maloneys, Cows and Bizzys…money which should be invested in special needs children…you small island rat.

    I have seen first hand in North Anerica, the contributions of special needs people to society….it is unparalleled.

    You have a very abled senator with a disability in parliament and you are on here poking fun at special needs people., you Kuttapa-Harris slave….now that is a major disabilty.

  45. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Well Well

    Due to your impassioned plea what I will have done for you is this.

    I will make representation to have the Alma Parris school reopened in order to accommodate you.

    How about that?


  46. @Mr Blogmaster, it is unfortunate and wasteful when important issues like this get lost in snide political snips…the real issue of developmental challenged children does not go away with the closure of Alma Parris.

    Barbados (as other places) will continue to produce children who do not pass that first step screening test we call 11 plus. So whatever the social stigma associated now, unless the government addresses the problem aggressively we will pay a much more tangible and destructive comeuppance socially with young adults lost to a life of criminality, sexuall and other vices in the growing subversive sub-society.

    Those who know would affirm that the Alma Parris concept was devised under a past administration in recognition of the long known problem re children scoring way below standard at common entrance.

    It is not a fantasy that Bajan youth have scored zero on that exam…an aberration maybe but very real. And it is quite real that every year severbal of our kids score an average of 20 or 30 across the tests. Way below acceptabilty.

    Where do we think these kids go…what do we think happens to them…do we think they come from Mars?

    So Alma Parris goes away but there is the Horizons opened a few years ago, the aforementioned Derrick Smith school and the other schools that every year take in kids who trail their peers academically and lwho also lack other cognitive skills to succeed with their peers. This is not a silly matter.

    It is strikingly impossible to grasp therefore why govt would almost stealthily close this school. That’s not to say that it did not need to be redeveloped. It did from a location and operational perspective but farming these needy children into schools where they will become the left behind lackeys is unconscionable.

    Some of these kids are realistically not ready for secondary school in the context we frame it and no amount of vacuous palaver but pol operatives here or from the MofEd that all schools are created equal will change that.

    Either schools like Parris are developed to bring these kids to maturity (and that was the plan back then) and/or we aggressively deal with the subculture of ‘children’ as parents which spawns this entire issue.

    How many of these developmentally challenged youth have the parent at home who is operationally illiterate, spaced out regularly on drugs, is in jail or a resident in our ‘green gates’ hotel??

    And I will not mention that 400 lb gorilla that beats us all to submission : drug culture.

    Folks like the Jeff Brookmes of this world (warts n all) know the issues well and in his stint at Parkinson’s was doing his biit to address it head on …the overall problem is huge and growing.


  47. Agree with you Dee Word, the snide remarks, we have idiots and we have those who show no respect for others. BU will intervene when it gets overbearing.

    Agree with your comment in the main, the three schools the Alma Paris former students are to be dispersed are known for the lack of discipline and rowdy elements. How do we expect special needs children to cope? Didn’t the teachers at St. George Secondary break down in tears recently because of the opportunity given by the MoE to listen to their pent-up concerns?

  48. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    The fact remains, the school has been closed and will remain, and the student body has been reassigned to other schools in Barbados.

    They will not be disadvantaged, a great deal of thought has gone into this decision. the children interest will continue to be protected.

    All of you BLP brown nosers can continue to live in the fantasy World you like to live in.


  49. That is incredible…a great deal of thought has gone into the decision….could have fooled me.

    If the Min of Education can make the incredibly unreal remark that all schools are the same then I find it impossible to appreciate how that mind set can bring great uncorrupt thinking to a serious matter as this one.

    There is great subterfuge here which will be discovered down the road one presumes.

    One cannot set a policy that a cohort of kids need special guidance and then some few years later change course completely to reintegrate those kids to the same system from whichis they were moved…WHAT has changed??

    Why has Horizons been initiated? Is that Parris but reset properly? Or is it something else? Are the kids being played to suit messaging and optics?

    I don’t know but speculation here is vastly more important to be clarified that anything re an irrelevant UN vote. This one really affects our society.

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