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clarkes-road-pMinister of Drainage Denis Lowe needs to go. There has been no improvement in the task to alleviate flooding in Barbados since his appointment. In fact, it has gotten worse. Surely it is time for commonsense to prevail and for the Prime Minister to give the opportunity to another person to bring a fresh approach to the job? Unfortunately we know that he will continue to have the backing of Prime Minister Stuart because he is a loyal foot soldier AND there is an election to be won.

For those whose lifes and properties continue to be threatened by heavy rainfall – what are we to do? Yes, we should be able to celebrate Independence Day (whatever that means) and discuss the attendant issues of the day.

By the way, are the weather radars working?

God bless BIM on Independence day.

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284 responses to “Minister Denis Lowe Resignation MUST be on the Table -Flooding @Clarkes Road. St. James – GOD Bless BIM on Independence Day”

  1. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Watchman December 3, 2016 at 10:42 AM

    Watchie, we do understand your totally unacceptable situation at Clarke’s Road and can even empathize in many ways. But the Clarke’s Road fiasco caused by alleged corrupt technocrats and political conmen pales into comparison to what is unfolding on the south Coast.

    The matter is so darn serious that not even your nemesis Walter PKK or the political blowflies the asinine cretins (acs of both vintage) can dare to offer a comment.
    But expect some retort about the sewage system being built under some BLP
    administration which refused to maintain the plant when money was flowing like milk and honey in political heaven.

    Even stinking yard-fowls like ac would not dare to step into the mire of shit about to overwhelm that area in similar fashion to the water in the Clarke’s road environs.

    Don’t be surprised if the monument to madness does not turn out to be a catchment area for the sewage about to overwhelm the South Coast unless immediate and drastic action is taken to rectify the situation.

  2. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @Bush Tea wrote @ Hants
    Have you joined the AC crew now…?

    No Bushie I not A C_nt.

    I offered a quasi professional opinion since I have spent the majority of my working life in a conceptualising, planning and executing environment.

    Yes you need DOOERS.That is why naturally lazy fellas like me had to live in Canada where you work your brass off or get fired.

  3. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    According to this liar, there is no raw sewage leaking into the streets

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/91023/bwa-denial

    However….

    They have closed this beach because there is so much cream cheese and not human POOP…running into the sea.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/91030/worthing-beach-closed

  4. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    @ John

    Mr. Blackman last talk with the CTO of MTW Mr. Frank Thornhill on Feb 3, 2016 , the first plea started April 23, 2004, he assured the counsel at MTW that he will address the matter that was since March 9, 2016 , the problem remain and is the subject of this posting

  5. John Avatar
    John

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/11/26/judge-issues-stern-warning-to-chief-town-planner/

    If you read the article you will see the Judge reserved a tongue lashing for the Prime Minister who acted unlawfully …. contrary to section 4(3) of the Town and Country Planning Act …. without the Town and Country Planning Committee.

    This would have been comprised of technical persons who know how things work.

    So what the Judge is saying is Seemoore acted as he pleased according to what little sense he had in his head at the time … perhaps he had up some see thru too!!

    So if the PM can do that, why can’t his ministers?

    … and if the ministers can do that, why not their technocrats …. right on down to the gun toting hooligans our school system and families have produced.

    Completely lawless … from the top to the bottom!!

    … and therein lies the problem at Clarke’s Road, Worthing Beach, and numerous other places in Barbados.

    It isn’t one person who can solve this one ….. at least no one human !!!

  6. Exclaimer Avatar
    Exclaimer

    It looks like we will have to find an alternative way to earn our keep. Once this news is leaked to the world media then it is difficult to see how our tourist industry may recover. After all there are so many islands in the Caribbean that are relatively unspoiled.

  7. Ping Pong Avatar
    Ping Pong

    The stadium closed. Combermere and St Paul’s primary closed. The Carnegie Free library closed. Garbage remains uncollected in many areas of the island. Sewage overflowing on the South Coast. The state of the roads is characterised by numerous potholes. Public health officials report an infestation of bedbugs in the bus terminal. A large section of the island is poorly served with pipe borne water. A not uncommon downpour of rainfall results in flooding in built up areas despite a previous drainage remediation program in those areas.

    Yuh think we gwine see the 51st anniversary of Independence?

  8. Hants Avatar
    Hants

  9. David Avatar
    David

    BWA denial

  10. David Avatar
    David

    8 mins

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    Barbados Government Information Service

     

  11. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Exclaimer December 3, 2016 at 11:39 AM

    I too share your deep concern for Barbados and its last remaining source of significant foreign income.

    But we all see this ‘shit’ coming long ago. Despite the many warnings over the months nothing was done to stem the tide of deterioration of the country’s public sanitation.

    From the buildup of litter on the streets to the massive increase in abandoned and derelict vehicles “beautifying” the landscape and clattering the housing areas to the poorly-kept roads with the detritus remaining in the gutters and pavements for weeks on end to the poor planning regarding the collection and security and management of its potable water to the failure to carry out preventative maintenance on its water distribution and sewage systems.

    As a result of this heavy reliance on tourism Barbados ought to see itself as a well managed destination capable of offering a high level of security and safety (and public health) to its many visitors. That is what the Brits expect when they pay big money to visit paradise as advertised even in the face of a falling pound sterling.

    Only in a third world banana republic would such a state of affairs pertain without the officials and political head honcho directly responsible being “invited” to tender their resignation with immediate effect.

    Don’t be surprised if a travel advisory is issued in respect of this shitty situation in Bim, should it continue.

  12. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Ping Pong
    The stadium closed. Combermere and St Paul’s primary closed. The Carnegie Free library closed.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    …not the Gymnasium too?

  13. Gabriel Avatar
    Gabriel

    I have already commented on the ill bred and insensitive attitude displayed by mwansa of BWA.He is reminiscent of the old colonial policeman looking for stripes.Now you can add the word liar…Estwick’s boy Johnny.6 ‘o 1, half dozen of the other.

  14. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    rainfall extending over, say about a three to four month period, you’re getting all that in a few days, our drainage systems aren’t designed to basically deal with that.

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/12/03/region-lacks-capacity-to-deal-with-severe-weather-says-climate-change-expert/

  15. John Avatar
    John

    Exclaimer December 3, 2016 at 11:39 AM #
    It looks like we will have to find an alternative way to earn our keep. Once this news is leaked to the world media then it is difficult to see how our tourist industry may recover. After all there are so many islands in the Caribbean that are relatively unspoiled.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I don’t agree … beach closure for poor water quality is standard in any developed country.

    I would have to applaud the government for taking a responsible action.

    You really think anyone over and away doesn’t know?

    High levels of bacteria in sea water results in Tropical Ear!!

    Tropical Ear kind of suggests that the world knows what to expect already!!!

    http://www.expat.or.id/medical/swimmersear.html

    One tourist I knew used to put a few drops of brandy in his ears before venturing in the sea in Barbados.

    An ENT specialist told me alot of his patients came to him as a result of bathing off the Esplanade … and most were tourists.

    Both were years ago!!

    The big deal for me is the GOB is actually sounding like it may want to act responsibly!!

    People know already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. Ping Pong Avatar
    Ping Pong

    Bush Tea

    it is irrefutable that the country’s infrastructure and natural environment have deteriorated to levels that imperil social and economic development. However, Bajans seem unconcerned. Why the apathy?!

    I am astounded that at the time when tourism is improving, sewage is overflowing on the south coast resulting in beaches being closed and the general public and more critically the authorities seem unfazed.

    I am astounded that Combermere can be closed for 3 weeks and parents remain nonplussed and patient.

    What would stir Bajans such that they would demand solutions and action?

    Are Bajans so resigned to a fate of future misery that they have adopted the attitude “Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die”!

    Or maybe we are the world’s most optimistic people.

  17. John Avatar
    John

    Most Bajans accept things won’t change!!!

    So they won’t!!

    It isn’t apathy … it is sheer laziness …… and fear of standing out in a crowd of mediocre people!!

    Fear plays a big part, perhaps larger than laziness!!

  18. John Avatar
    John

    … and that fear stems from the lawlessness that has been allowed to take over in Barbados.

    Nail that and we can get back on track!!

  19. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Ping Pong…take away their bleaching creams, fake nails and fake hair and ya will get a riot, they live for the unimportant…

    …..they are badly culturized, negatively socialized, hence all the self praise and false pride…..

    ………the monsters in the buckingham tell them to be proud..and that is what they are, proud and contented with the mediocre.

    Beginning in parliament with the monkeys, they do not even know the level of their own social progress.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/90830/social-progress-uncharted

  20. Exclaimer Avatar
    Exclaimer

    http://www.caribank.org/procurement-notices/general-procurement-notices/water-supply-network-upgrade-project-barbados

  21. charles skeete Avatar
    charles skeete

    “Worthing Beach closed

    Government this morning announced the closure of the popular Worthing Beach in Christ Church with immediate effect.

    In a brief statement issued by the Barbados Government Information Service it said as a result of poor water quality, it was advising the public that the beach would be closed until further notice.

    The move comes against the backdrop of reports of raw sewage flowing into the sea.
    Businesses which operate on the south coast have also complained of sewage flowing into the streets, with mere days to go before the start of the 2016 winter tourist season.

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/12/03/worthing-beach-closed”

    Can this information from Barbados today be trusted? they published information that schools would have been closed until Monday and it turned out to be false.

  22. David Avatar
    David

    If you read the full comments on the blog you should have note the GIS notice was published.

    On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >

  23. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    @Miller

    Walter PPK Blackman did read the BU postings about this serious situation at Clarkes Rd St. James, on his returned to Barbados he contacted Mr. Blackman with a pro-bono offer, visited Clarke Road, made promises, Mr. Blackman and I will leave the commenting to Walter PPK Blackman, as to why he did not follow up on his promises, as for the south coast sewage project, it started under a DLP government, the BWA corrupted supervisors look away, for a piece of change and allowed subcontractors to take short cuts and make BAD pipe connections in that area, all the system needed to be disastrous, it get, A BAD PUMP, the leaks to overflowing had to happen with time, a lot of shoddy work was done in the Bay Land area too, maybe the next stink place

  24. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    Simple question:

    Have these problems reached a level where hearings are held to identify and resolve the cause of this flooding. Note that who and what are to blame should be part of any report that is issued.

  25. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    @SSS

    No need for apologies , these present DLP characters with the ugliest as the leader are acting out “oh what a tangle web we weave when first (in 2008)we practice to deceive”

  26. Anonymouse - The Gazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – The Gazer

    I guess after we have circled the globe, it is is time to zero in on solutions.

    Is this just inclement weather or is it a ‘national disaster’? If we had the same amount of rain would we see similar flooding, or can this problem be alleviated by the action of cleaning drains and restoring water-ways?

    Can those in authority take action that would resolve this problem. Could it have been prevented? Should heads roll?

  27. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    @Anonymouse-The Gazer

    yes a meeting was held on site April 23 2005 with Mr. Blackman and from BWA Mr. Marville , Miller, Blades , Draton and from Drainage Unit Mr. Yearwood. Mr. Marville agreed with Mr. Yearwood as to the great risk of the pipe in the watercourse and give the assurance to all that the pipe would be retracted, it remain to this day.

  28. David Avatar
    David

    clarkesroadhouse

    clarkes-green

  29. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    Some action was taken at Clarkes Rd, St.James by a Mr. Inniss, from the Drainage Unit who got his friend to sink a 20 Ft well in the wrong place, that action, intensified the flooding problem at Clarkes Rd, St James and also alleviated Mr. Inniss / friend immediate cash flow problem

  30. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    David Dec 3,2016 at 10.19 PM posting

    The picture Show an old house with occupant, on the open spot to the right of Mr. Blackman wall, that flooding is cause by the removing of the right side ridge of the watercourse

  31. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    Sorry I mean an old house that is occupied

  32. John Avatar
    John

    ….. almost sounds like how the court in Barbados works …. or doesn’t!!

  33. John Avatar
    John

    If it weren’t so serious you could almost laugh!!

  34. David Avatar
    David

    https://www.facebook.com/john.roett/videos/10210980659376982/
    John Roett
    7 hrs ·

    So, tell me why the head of the BWA didn’t go for a swim in this, since he said it’s all ok? Tell me why the NCC has closed Worthing beach, if all is ok? Tell me why everyone involved in this isn’t immediately fired, including every minister who would condone or turn a blind eye to an action such as this? Jokers. Absolute, complete, unadulterated jokers. I’m trying not to curse, but when idiots fuck with my country, it becomes impossible not to.

  35. John Avatar
    John

    Believe it or not the Six Men saga has been going on since 1985 when Government tried to acquire the land!!

    It went to court in 1999.

  36. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    The second picture, the hanging brown roots is where the water emerge, from the rock face, 30+ Ft of the rocky formation 4+ Ft high left and right side ridges to the well was removed, the water path flatten and turn to garden on the left side, the right side of the well is the open spot where the road cross the watercourse,

  37. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/91061/visitors-upset-closed-beach

    “With one tourist allegedly hospitalised after swimming at Worthing Beach,”

  38. Exclaimer Avatar
    Exclaimer

    @ John December 3, 2016 at 12:57 PM,

    The Barbados economy is structured uniquely around tourism. A picture paints a thousand words. That photo of a discoloured Worthing Beach will live long in people’s memories.

    We should also admit that the Cholera treat is knocking, firmly, at our door.

    Shit happens! We will now have to a diversify our economy.

  39. Exclaimer Avatar
    Exclaimer

    @ millertheanunnaki December 3, 2016 at 12:14 PM,

    Some two years ago when i use to be more vocal i suggested that the Barbados army should take over the reins of government in order to restore law and order to the country and to rid us of those elements within our society who were practising corruption on a grand scale.

    Brother Bush Tea and the sadly missed Piece chastised me for spouting nonsense.

    Miller, a state of emergency should be declared in Barbados. We have a Prime Minister who appears to be determined to destroy our country. This madness has to come to an end.

  40. Exclaimer Avatar
    Exclaimer

    Who is Dr John Mwansa? What is his level of experience? Why was he given this post? Is he suitably qualified for this post?

    I need some answers.

    If you guys are serious about sewage systems and the supply of potable water then recruit someone from Israel.

    http://www.israel21c.org/israel-leading-the-way-in-wastewater-treatment-techniques/

  41. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Ping Pong
    What would stir Bajans such that they would demand solutions and action?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Debrassification…..

  42. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Exclaimer
    Some two years ago when i use to be more vocal i suggested that the Barbados army should take over the reins of government…..Brother Bush Tea and the sadly missed Piece chastised me
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You mean well, but you do not understand how REALLY bad the rot is….
    What army what??!!
    …colossal joke.

    The last chance was Caswell and a core of hold-outs against the brass bowlery …like Jeff, Walter, and a few others…. But that last chance passed two or three years ago.
    Now that we have enthroned the previously ‘behind-the-scenes boss’ with his very own monument at the Garrison, you should EXPECT that he will make the place like home….. Hell.

  43. John Avatar
    John

    I think we are looking at two issues here with Graeme Hall.

    First

    The sluice gates need to be opened periodically to drain the build up of fresh water and prevent the reduction in salinity of the water falling.

    This will damage the wetlands, a subject we all know about from the past years.

    Prior to the Sewage Plant to which the sewage system is connected, what came out is naturally discouloured water which the government used as a pretext not to open the sluice gates.

    Second

    There have been problems in the running of the sewage system.

    It is well known (or divined through common sense) that the sewage plant when it can’t expel the raw sewage to the outfall of the Hilton will expel it into the Graeme Hall wetlands.

    One of the reasons this happens is because there is or are leaks so rather than pushing the outflow into leaky pipes where it will end up on the road it ends up in the wetlands.

    There has been a major leak which has been reportedly fixed.

    Enter the Dragon!!

    Rain, and lots of it!! Same drainage principles apply as at Clarke’s Road, Two Mile Hill etc etc etc.

    The water running off from as far away as Fort George Development, all through Elizabeth Park, Sheraton, Tino Terrace, Amith Lodge etc etc etc ends up in the wetlands … that’s why the wetlands are wet!!

    The level in the lake is sea level.

    So one would imagine it would rise, overflow and flood out the South Coast.

    But it is self regulating.

    The bottom is porous so as the fresh water run off enters the lake, it pushes the sea water on which it floats out trough the cracks and fissures back into the sea.

    It doesn’t happen instantaneously so there will be a rise but with the egress of the salt water the salinity of the lake falls and it becomes fresher and fresher.

    The sluice gates have to be opened not only to regulate the salinity by allowing the fresh water to get out and the sea water to flow back in underground but also to prevent the chance of flooding which arises from the fact that there is a rise in level of the lake.

    …. that’s my thinking.

    Result

    Any sewage dumped into the wetlands while the leak(s) was/were fixed comes out through the gate.

    It may be splitting hairs but the sewage may not be fresh, raw sewage, but a slurry of decomposing sewage mixed in with the rain water.

    Same decomposition happens with the raw sewage from our water toilets!!!

    The difference is it happens underground.

    … and that’s the reason for the control zones in BIM.

    By the time the raw sewage has decomposed and live bacteria has died … or decayed to an acceptable level … it arrives at the water supply wells.

    We are appalled by what we see coming out of the sluice gates because it is indeed appalling and creates revulsion …. but it happens right under our feet 24/7.

    Someone flushes a toilet.

    Maybe we should get back to the dry pit toilets of yore so we are no longer appalled and revolted!!

    … but we won’t.

  44. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    @ Bush Tea

    Caswell can merit a place at the table in any planning of a rebuilding process,Jeff and Walter ??? keep looking for the few others

  45. John Avatar
    John

    Where I live had 27.69 inches of rain for September, October and November compared with the island average of 22-23 inches of rain over the period 1847 to 1984.

    Definitely above average.

    The wettest year on record was 1901 when Boscobelle slipped, all 4-500 acres of it. That year there was 91.5 inches.

    In that year, September, October and November produced 27 inches.

    In 1896, the single month of November produced 22.5 inches!! That year produced 89.5 inches.

    The same three month period produced 36.5 inches.

    So this year the three month period is up there but not as high as has been seen in the past.

  46. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ John
    You are a classic example of why this country is in a mess.

    How the hell can anyone with such insight and knowledge in such a critical area of national importance not be involved and exploited to their fullest potential in this aspect of national policy?
    Instead, you are here writing on BU …while the incompetent persons who actually hold national positions are seeking to make excuses and explain their failures.

    Steupsss
    Were it up to Bushie, your donkey would be so busy dealing with the water issues of Barbados that you would have no time to spend writing shiite about Quakers …or wandering around in cemeteries looking to see who is buried where….

  47. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    @ John

    I am offering you a tour of this madness, if yes I will post my contact

  48. John Avatar
    John

    Last night I drove from the Esso Service Station to Big B.

    Went to get some food!!!

    I saw water rising in the road.

    My immediate thinking said that is a spring!!!!

    After all, there are springs in the Amity Lodge Area bringing water into the wetlands from “far away” Fort George!!

    The heavy rains not only create surface run off which we can see but also underground flow which we can’t!!

    I think the underground flow from the rainfall through the porous coral, is forcing water to the surface.

    Unfortunately, it is “Swamp Water”!!!

    … and we all associate it with sewage.

    It may not be sabotage, just a natural process which will pass as the water created by the rain gets back into the sea from where it came.

    Same with the open sluice gate.

    Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible!!

    I remember bathing in the sea in Dominica in 1998 just to experience the warm water forced up from the underground runoff from the land which was naturally heated by geothermal processes.

    I had been hiking over Christmas in the mountains there.

    Freshwater Bay in Barbados will produce cold updrafts, no geothermal energy here!!

    But that is not the only place, I have experienced the cold updrafts in the sea in some areas off the south coast when I used to go in the sea here.

    I am wondering if any folks from the area have witnessed what I think is a natural phenomenon in the past.

    We may just have sh!t on our minds at the moment and fail to marvel at the natural processes occurring right before our very eyes!!

  49. Watchman Avatar
    Watchman

    @ Exclaimer

    The PM and his cast of jokers were rendered helpless a long time ago,

  50. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @ John,

    “cold updrafts?” occurred on the beach at Mt.Standfast and also near Folkestone in the 50s and 60s.

    We thought they were springs and drank the water.

    Wouldn’t do that today given the chemicals we use for Agriculture / pest control.

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