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TBThe Rise of Satanic Super Soldiers – Death Cults, Subliminal Sublimation, #WW3 Indoctrination & Quasi-Biological Armageddon

And there was war in Heaven…And the great dragon was cast out, that old Serpent, […]called the Devil and Satan that deceives the whole world: he was cast into the earth… Rev.12:7,9

 

In a 2014 report by Reuters, it is suggested that a little known amphetamine called ‘Fenethylline’ under the USA Trademark ‘Captagon’ has been responsible for creating super-soldiers in Syria and wherever jihadists from the so-called Islamic State now operate.

Few are really prepared for the coming crisis and although countless millions desire a life of peace and safety, we know that sudden destruction is coming upon the world as men are gathered together for the “BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON”!

The historical ledger of human folly is bloated in ignominy and the tragedy of evil, wicked, hateful men have become the norm – damning our world into perdition. Much of what we are witnessing today is based on a transhumanist ideology which has been rifled with imperious evil, conspiratorial corruption and dangerous minefields, as more and more mass murder occurs, followed by human annihilation on an apocalyptic scale. As we’re griped in the quagmire of perpetual war, never-ending terror, distress of nations with perplexity, as men’s hearts are failing them for fear, knowing those things which are about to come upon the earth.

Some will argue that there’s nothing new under the sun and there is a modicum of truth and logic in that, but we must understand the concept of “Scale” when looking at history, prophecy and current trends on the ground.

At the ‘Genesis’ of mankind, polarising issues such as: – the fallen, apostate, sons of God (Bene ha Elohim/Nephilim) fought to destroy the pure sons of God, through exogenous transgenesis. Back then, evil had reached such a superlative degree, that God saw that the “Imaginations” of men’s hearts, were only “evil” continually. This primordial evil of transhumanism became so rampant on the earth, after the fall of Cain, that by the 10th generation of Noah, the Creator God had to issue a final ultimatum. The cup of evil had reached quasi-biological Armageddon. Mankind’s petulance had reached tipping point. The created “Image” of God in man had become so tarnished – marred by this evolutionary transgenesis into sub-human species that annihilation was the only last resort.

Today, the same “recyclical primordiality” of Adamic intrigue have reached down to our time. Like the antediluvians, we are dabbling in “Genetic Manipulation” as the Elites seek to create mankind in their own image – a superior race of super-beings and lifeforms capable of feats only seen in Hollywood movies.

Solomon – king of Israel, wrote in Ecclesiastes 3:15: “What is happening now has happened before, and what will happen in the future has happened before, because God allows the same things to happen over and over again.” We’ve seen this in the historical record of the Epic of Gilgamesh & the fall of ancient empires based on perpetual wars, divisive conquest, the mythology of Lost Atlantis, the search for the Golden Fleece, Egyptian Pyramidology, the gods of RA, the Anunnaki, Sun & Moon worship and the “Society of Jesus”(#Jesuits). There is also the invidious nature of royal blue bloodlines, blood-lust, blood-oaths, pagan blood-sacrifices, blood covenants, the empyreal god #ISIS and its modern spurious variant, geo-engineered climate change, hollow earth theses, synthetic humanoids and the quest for extra-terrestrial civilizations and life-forms. These and others are but a few of mankind’s on-going dark, lurid and sinister fascinations and preoccupations – harping back to a time in the unwritten, lost history of man’s sojourn upon the earth.

Scripture tells us in the ‘Genesis’ of Satanic super-soldiers, like Nimrod, (one of [16] grandsons of Noah), cited in (Gen. 10:11) and also chiselled into the paleo-anthropological record of the Epic of Gilgamesh – that he was a genetically engineered super soldier who hunted, ruled & built the civilizations of Babel & Assyria. (It is said that Babel’s Tower foundation circumference was literally 3 days walk). Today, ancient Assyrian monolithic structures are being destroyed and sold on by a new breed of Satanic super soldier in the Middle East – scrubbing history of pertinent artefacts and re-writing a sordid tale of lies and sophistry.

Many of these sociopathic dynasties cited in the prophetic dream of Nebuchadnezzar (interpreted in Daniel chapter 2) saw the rise and fall of Babylonia, Medo-Persia, Greece & Roman Empire – civilizations that propagated and prospered through perpetual war and territorial conquest, human subjugation, infamy and death. Each of them, collapsing under the weight of a Mighty “Invisible” Hand!

Prophetic history, cited in the written record, spawned such idiopathically blind rulers as Belshazzar, Alexander the great, Emperor Caligula and others who became quasi-living “gods” in human flesh – tortured by their own twisted sense of self-worth and “worshipped” as the Pope is today, by myopically challenged and fiercely ignorant subjects, who fall under the tyranny of deep, subliminal, mind control – spiritually carpet-bombed into mindless allegiance and puerile subservience.

Any careful, systematic study of bygone civilizations will show a lurid pattern of entrenched wars, virulent conquest, abject subjugation and subservience to the will of an Elite group of individuals who lacked creative or meaningful ways to live harmoniously with each other. There was neither insistence on strategic, creative or peripheral thinking in their approach to mother earth or sought ways to preserve ecological and planetary equilibrium.

As a result, the Roman Empire (of which we are an extension based on the toenails of the prophecy of Daniel Chapter 2) is today a loose confederation of “iron & clay” being held together by flimsy religio-political (church-state union), bio-racial amalgamations and socioeconomic intermarriages. Roman history, from which all our current evils flow, with all its warped vagaries produced avowed narcissistic rulers like Julius & Tiberius Caesar, Justinian, Constantine the great and Herod the tetrarch – all demanding worship through malignity, mass murder, repression, sophistry and infanticide – pushing the concept of subliminal, cognitive infiltration and blood-lust to whole new level. These men, whose satanically-induced, personality-neuroses left the bloodied pages of history without an equal. Yet, these few mere mentions are but stagnant drops in that vast ocean of pathologically, divisive characters that disgraced the annuals of world history. Sadly, Scripture cites past history as but a menacing shadow of what our future reality holds, given the ebb and flow towards the looming spectre of #WW3!

The harbingers epitomized by the evil prevalent in our world cannot be ignored. The lists of “actors” are vast and the theatre of engagement insurmountable.

For all of the 20th century until today, this is a snapshot of what has occurred:

#WW1 & #WW2; atomic bombs on Hiroshima & Nagasaki & rise of the Japanese military; IndoChina War; Korean war; Vietnam war; 2 Gulf Wars with added State-sponsored “Terror”; the rise of #ISIS aka #ISIL aka #IS; fuelling non-stop & perpetual wars; ‘shock & awe’ from launched ICMB cruise missiles & predatory drone strikes; indiscriminate land-mining; phosphorus cluster bombs, & barrel bombs; Iraq/Afghanistan depleted uranium bombs & its effects; US/Israeli biological & chemical weaponry stockpiles; terrorist watch-lists & labelled enemy combatants; US-created Mujahedeen/Taliban/Al-Queda/ISIS fighters; anti-Russian propaganda & nuclear brinkmanship; overt/inert full-spectrum dominance; 3-strikes-you’re-OUT; detention without trial & maximum-security detention; Black-OPS mercenaries aka US sponsored Blackwater paramilitaries & other shadowy defence contractors with targeted Black-OP assassinations; extraordinary rendition; political/military plausible deniability; intelligence-services sponsored torture (water-boarding & electrical shocks to human genitalia); indefinite Guantanamo Bay detention; neoNazis @Abu Ghraib; FEMA Nazi Auschwitz style death camps & undying Holocaust remembrance; a 20th & 21st century catalogue of genocidal atrocities; social/moral/economic apartheid in predominately Black nations; oil-rich Niger Delta Boko Haram Islamic State insurgents; 9-11/7-7 False Flags; Arab Spring; Orange & Umbrella Revolutions; Iraqi/Afghanistan/Libyan/Syrian/Yemen & possible Iranian regime change; Russian sanctions (East v West fractured détente); drug/human trafficking & socially engineered migration debacles; social flux & fragmentation; moral impunity; disguised fascists & neo-fascists; global poverty v global super-rich; megalomaniacs, plutocrats & insane kleptocrats; oligarchs & oligopolies; malicious political propaganda; racial science, #WhitePrivilege & pervasively sinister, Elitist ideological corruption; poverty profiteering; illegal offshore tax havens; HSBC/International banking money laundering scandals & arms contractors; predatory private bank bail-outs & bail-ins; too-big-to-save v too-big-to-fail; monopoly/predatory capitalism; systemic financialization; corporate personhood; golden parachutes & golden handshakes; whistleblowers; corporate mediazation; public relations SPIN; Elite wealth redistribution masked as austerity; IMF structural adjustment programmes and the increasingly austere moves toward global economic hegemony as the New World Order cements their physical, social, financial and religious exploitation of the rest of us; police brutality & license murder by COP; NSA surveillance & mass intrusion; lab-created diseases (EBOLA, SARS, H1NI, H5N1, MERS); TTIP & GMO foods; unexplainable ecological phenomena (mass fish, birds & animal die-OFFS); RFID/human chips; human cloning; issues over fracking & poisoned water tables; mountain-top removal; Canadian tar sands; Fukushima nuclear fall-out debacle; and a looming apocalyptically engineered New World Order crisis on our doorsteps.

Welcome to planet earth in the 21st century!

If these in your face references are not leading to the ultimate crisis called World War 3 – then the interpretation of the “handwriting” on the wall is misplaced. If all we’re seeing is but a storm in a teacup – should we not shudder to think what more is to come or will happen?

During the recent Papal Vaticano Encyclical “Laudato Si” by Pontifex Maximus Francis Mario Bergoglio aka Pope Francis (of Assisi) tweeted the following words from his Twitter handle @Pontifex: “The earth has become a pit of FILTH*.” Most commentators seemingly overlooked this malevolent quote and simply moved on to either take sides in the current debate on “Climate Change” scheduled to take place in France or to prop up their beleaguered counter arguments with more pseudo-scientific spin. What’s increasingly clear to many is that this world has not been built by caring human beings, but rather has been constructed and run by powerful, hollow, soulless, heartless, Godless individuals who are doing the bidding of their master Satan (Lucifer disguised as an angel of light).

Ancient history lessons allude to almost 6000 years of some of the most barbaric atrocities mankind have inflicted on the planet – leaving a legacy of such maleficent darkness that modern scientists believe that based on the reckoning of the “Doomsday Clock” and the proliferation of the current arms race – puts us within “3 minutes” striking distance of MIDNIGHT! Yet the scoffers, naysayers, soothsayers and deniers refuse to see the ‘handwriting’ on the wall – choosing denial over the obvious; choosing to be blindfolded by a ribbon of darkness, rather than to walk in the precious light of Biblical “Truth”.

Andrew Hessel, co-chair of Singularity University bioinformatics and biotechnology posits that: “We’re going to make synthetic human genomes and edit them, and we’re going to end up with IVF technologies that can boot them. It will make cloning look organic, and the ways we have babies today quaint.” This is not conspiracy – this is FACT!

Most are completely oblivious to the fact that this piece entitled “The Lucifer Project” was first coined in a book entitled: “Behold a Pale Horse” by William Cooper (1991:72) where it is stated that the Galileo probe would be directed into a controlled descent into Jupiter and at the end of its mission, its plutonium fuel rods would implode to create a nuclear fission bomb that would trigger the emergence of a new sun.

Cooper’s 1991 book presaged the Vatican’s subliminal role later exposed by Dr Malachi Martin( in the book ‘The Keys of This Blood’) as trying to merge astroscience with religion, recognizing the ramifications of astrobiology and specifically the discovery of advanced extra-terrestrial life-forms during the 1950’s from reports on Area 51(a detachment of Edwards Air Force Base, Calif.).

In 1997, when the Vatican began to heavily invest in the study of deep space science phenomena at the Mt Graham Observatory in Arizona using the acronym L.U.C.I.F.E.R. which stands for “Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research,” where a chilled instrument attached to a telescope would voyeur into deep space in search of the illusive “Emerging Star”.

Vatican scholars in astrophysics and astrocosmology actually believe that Jesus might have been the “Star-Child” of an alien race – when Monsignor Corrado Balducci, an exorcist, demonologist, theologian and member of the Vatican Curia said that “extra-terrestrial encounters are not demonic – they are not due to psychological impairment, and they are not a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully.” Hence the Vatican’s search for an “extra-terrestrial saviour” as authors Putnam & Horn suggest remains a major penchant of Catholic theology as they expect in our lifetime, to see a visible manifestation of the “Star-Child” as Muslims cite that the MAHDI* will arise to lead a new breed of super-soldiers.

In conclusion, Fredrick Soddy – British Nobel Prize winning chemist who established isotopes in 1909 wrote: “I believe that there have been civilizations in the past that were familiar with atomic energy, and that by misusing it they were totally destroyed.” If nothing then is new under the sun, author R. A Boulay perfectly frames the mindset of most human beings today on the earth, where he opined: “Man has been conditioned for millennia to deny the truth of his ancestry and as a palliative; we have developed a convenient form of amnesia.”

The world is primed for implosion! The spirits of demons are set to be fully unleashed upon this planet. The bloodbath according to the prophetic record will reach the height of a horse’s bridle as the plagues fall – turning the seas into blood, along with the springs and fountains of water. Yet in all the mayhem and bedlam that will fill the earth; with the proliferation of evil at nebulous proportions – mankind will simply refuse to make any apology or REPENTANCE* for their evil deeds.

Global collapse disorder and subliminal sublimation fuelled by the precursors and praxis of Satanic super soldiers fomented by #ISIS aka #ISIL aka #IS; Boko Haram & others will give rise to the “chosen ones” – the “shock troops of antichrist”, the MAHDI* (false prophet), intent on the “Black Awakening” – hell-bent on global sabotage and the stifling fumes of darkness from the Bottomless Pit will result in the complete annihilation of one-third of mankind by #WW3.

Today, these Satanic super-soldiers are dirtying the world with the blood of the innocents through mass executions; beheadings similar to the #Dominicans and #Jesuit orchestrated French Revolution; wanton rape; savagery & human slavery; vile bondage and incessant pillage. This is not an “IDEOLOGY” as lying politicians would have us believe – this is the “new spirituality”: a diabolical form of “neo-transhumanism”, where as in the days of Noah when the ‘Nephilim’ apostate humans walked and ruled the earth and the imaginations of men’s hearts, were only evil continually – we are seeing a similar, almost identical pattern of primordial “EVIL” rampant in our world today.

Time to awake out of sleep folks! The “Valley of Achor” beckons. The time has come to choose a side…


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292 responses to “The Lucifer Project”


  1. lawson November 25, 2015 at 7:07 AM #

    “Why would he create billions and billions of galaxies ….if we cant see them”

    But as it is written:

    “Eye has not SEEN, nor the ear HEARD, Nor have entered into the heart of man, The THINGS which God has prepared for those who *love Him.” ( 1 Cor. 2: 9). Emphasis added.”

    “But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches ALL things, yes, the DEEP things of God.” (v.10).

    2:9 Eye has not seen: The quotation is from Is. 64:4 (v.9) implies three ways of knowing: perceptional knowledge (eye, ear) through observation and sense experience; conceptual knowledge ( heart, mind) by reason and intellectual inquiry, and spiritual knowledge (love) by moral and personal affinity. Since knowledge of the things of God is more of a spiritual than an intellectual nature, there is no basis for glorying in any religious or secular leader, for his supposed superior grasp of reality.

    2:19. God has revealed: two elements are necessary to know the things of God; a revelation from God by the Spirit, and an appropriate spiritual response by man. (2:14-3;4).


  2. @lawson November 25, 2015 at 7:07 AM #

    Chuckle……never a truer post…….could not have put it better.

  3. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ Zoe November 25, 2015 at 9:03 AM #
    “Why would he create billions and billions of galaxies ….if we cant see them”

    Why, indeed, would your desert god who always feels sorry for himself for creating such imperfect beings called ‘humans’ create not only “billions and billions of galaxies ” but also ‘millions of billions of billions’ of planets on which to replicate his (not her) Adam & Eve in the Garden of Eden project with all its faults and poor engineering at times.

    Come on, Zoe, if you are prepared to accept the existence of other planets in the Milky Way (Mary’s womb) and also in the other “billions and billions of galaxies” then based on ‘scientific’ reasoning you should be prepared to entertain the idea of the existence of other life-forms some of which might find greater favour with your Yahweh who has shown on numerous occasions his preference for some over others. Do the Cain & Abel and the Esau & Jacob stories have any relevance to this accusation of a discriminatory god?

    You think you alone can quote the Bible verbatim?
    Here is biblical proof that your temperamental god has indeed created other life-forms if only in our segment of Isis womb; straight from the book of Ezekiel:

    “ In the thirtieth year, in the fourth month on the fifth day, while I was among the exiles by the Kebar River, the heavens were opened and I saw visions of God.
    2 On the fifth of the month–it was the fifth year of the exile of King Jehoiachin–
    3 the word of the LORD came to Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, by the Kebar River in the land of the Babylonians. There the hand of the LORD was upon him.
    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north–an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal,
    5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was that of a man,
    6 but each of them had four faces and four wings.
    7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze.
    8 Under their wings on their four sides they had the hands of a man. All four of them had faces and wings,
    9 and their wings touched one another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.
    10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a man, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle.
    11 Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out upward; each had two wings, one touching the wing of another creature on either side, and two wings covering its body.
    12 Each one went straight ahead. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, without turning as they went.
    13 The appearance of the living creatures was like burning coals of fire or like torches. Fire moved back and forth among the creatures; it was bright, and lightning flashed out of it.
    14 The creatures sped back and forth like flashes of lightning.
    15 As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground beside each creature with its four faces.
    16 This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like chrysolite, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel.
    17 As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not turn about as the creatures went.
    18 Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around.
    19 When the living creatures moved, the wheels beside them moved; and when the living creatures rose from the ground, the wheels also rose.
    20 Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
    21 When the creatures moved, they also moved; when the creatures stood still, they also stood still; and when the creatures rose from the ground, the wheels rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
    22 Spread out above the heads of the living creatures was what looked like an expanse, sparkling like ice, and awesome.
    23 Under the expanse their wings were stretched out one toward the other, and each had two wings covering its body.
    24 When the creatures moved, I heard the sound of their wings, like the roar of rushing waters, like the voice of the Almighty, like the tumult of an army. When they stood still, they lowered their wings.
    25 Then there came a voice from above the expanse over their heads as they stood with lowered wings.
    26 Above the expanse over their heads was what looked like a throne of sapphire, and high above on the throne was a figure like that of a man.
    27 I saw that from what appeared to be his waist up he looked like glowing metal, as if full of fire, and that from there down he looked like fire; and brilliant light surrounded him.
    28 Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. When I saw it, I fell facedown, and I heard the voice of one speaking. “


  4. @ Lawson
    Why would he create billions and billions of galaxies ….if we cant see them
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Boss, what are you doing on this post? …don’t mind Miller and Vincent yuh …they are only looking to frustrate poor Zoe….

    Think for a moment Boss…
    Have you considered that the reason we cannot ‘see’ these various creations is simply because we happen to be effectively blind, helpless, brass-bowls ….living briefly in a reality of REAL spiritual entities who CAN routinely see, experience and enjoy these various creations?
    LOL
    ..Same reason Vincent can’t ‘see’ basic reason….
    ..Same reason Zoe resorts to “astirinch.com” and his multitude of other copy-and-paste sources.
    ..Same reason our learned friend GP (with the lotta years of study and the fancy degrees) can’t answer BASIC questions from Technician….

    But you are a logical fellow…. and it MUST dawn on you that such over-design speaks to a MUCH broader and wider audience than just the stupid brass bowls that represent humans…

    …and you MUST see that blood business is simply BRILLIANT engineering…..
    Can you imagine how different this world would be if a man’s blood supply could fuel BOTH his brains AND penis at the same time…?

    Shiite fella…
    Wuh AC /Dompey/ Dee Word / Sargeant and a whole HOST of others here on BU would NEVER have been born…
    …so who the hell would Bushie find to cuss and abuse now…??!! 🙂


  5. @Bush Tea November 25, 2015 at 11:56 AM #

    BT………basic reason……yuh mean dem does got advanced reason tuh…..wuhloss,ah in turreble truble.

    How Dompey lessons coming?


  6. Miller, You do NOT have a clue, as to the significance of Ezekiel’s vision; your typical NAKI-NAKI weird, completely un-Scriptural interpretation, is entirely consistent with your spiritually LOST, and en-darkened soul!

    What is the significance of Ezekiel’s description of God’s heavenly chariot in chapter 1?

    Chapter 1 of Ezekiel contains a famous description of God’s heavenly chariot

    …as I was among the captives by the river Chebar, the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God… And I looked, and, behold, a stormy wind came out of the north, a great cloud, with a fire flashing up, so that a brightness was round about it; and out of the midst thereof as the color of the electrum, out of the midst of the fire. And out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had the likeness of a man… (1:1, 4-5) (JPS translation)

    What is the significance of this chapter? What is its place in the book of Ezekiel as a whole? How have different commentators interpreted and understood this imagery over the years? How was this prophecy relevant to Ezekiel’s original audience and his overall prophetic message?

    This is an expansive question; as such, I’ve limited my answer to keep it from getting too much longer. Hopefully someone else can/will address historical interpretations of the imagery.

    Ezekiel writes during the time of the exile (1:2) to the people in exile (3:11). Much of Judah has already gone into Babylonian captivity, but at the time he begins writing, Jerusalem still stands. Many of the exiles believed the city would never fall, that it was a sanctuary (cf. 11:3 and 11:11). Against this backdrop comes Ezekiel’s prophetic message, which begins with a vision:

    The Four Living Creatures

    The first thing that Ezekiel recounts of his vision is four living creatures. Later we are told these creatures are cherubim (e.g. 10:20); but in appearance they are a mixture of angel, animal, and human. They have four faces (human, ox, lion, and eagle).

    The Great Wheels

    Next to each living creature there is a giant wheel made of two wheels intersecting one another. The wheels are covered with eyes. The wheels move in every direction and in unison.

    The Expanse

    An expanse sits above the heads of the four living creatures, and above the expanse is a throne, and above the throne is a figure of a man gleaming like fire, surrounded by a rainbow-like radiance.

    One of the difficulties in interpreting a vision like in Chapter 1 of Ezekiel is the tendency to get lost in the details rather than focusing one’s attention on the major ideas. With that in mind, here are a several broad pictures that the vision seems to paint:

    The breadth of the expanse and the highness of the throne and the One above the throne suggests the sovereignty of God’s rule. Some thought that God has abandoned Israel (9:9), but the vision is to remind its hearers that God is still in control even though the people are in exile.

    The four living creatures re-enforce the point above. They seem to represent not only the breadth of God’s creation (angel, animal, man), but also the height: each face representing the chief creatures of their domains (man over all creatures, lion over all wild creatures, ox over all domesticated creatures, and the eagle over the birds of the air). All of this sits under the throne (sovereignty) of God.

    The brilliance of the light and fire in and around the figure on the throne call to mind the holiness, the majesty, and the glory of God. The rainbow recalls God’s promise to Noah and the promise-keeping nature of God.

    The many eyes on the wheels likely represent the totality of God’s perceiving. Some thought that God did not see what was happening (9:9), but the eyes in Ezekiel’s vision show that nothing can escape God’s vision.

    Lastly, the wheels and the motion of the wheels demonstrate a point critical to the rest of the book: the mobility of God’s glory.

    This heavenly chariot, as you call it, appears twice more in the book of Ezekiel: once in chapters 10/11 and again in chapter 43. But here it starts by coming from the north (1:4).

    The north signifies the land of Israel’s invaders; judgement comes from the north. As mentioned, many thought Jerusalem was unassailable, but now God gives to Ezkiel a message to deliver: that Jerusalem will be destroyed (Ezekiel 4).

    Before that can happen, though, God will leave the city. So in chapter 10, we see again this heavenly chariot and the glory of God departs from the temple and stops above the four living creatures (10:18) and then moves to the east gate. After pausing there, the heavenly chariot moves east of the city altogether to the mountain east of it and Ezekiel’s vision ends (11:23-24).

    Here is where the mobility of the glory of God becomes important to the theme of the book. For the people thought that God’s glory was always in the land and that God was not with the exiles (11:15). The heavenly chariot, though, shows not only that judgement can come upon the land, but also that God is with his people in exile. He has sent them into exile, but He goes into exile with them.

    The heavenly chariot, though, makes one last appearance in Ezekiel’s book. In chapter 43, Ezekiel sees again a vision like before (43:3) of the glory of God coming from the east (43:2).

    God returns from the exile, having promised to return the people to the land (36:24). As the rest of the book unfolds, God makes clear that he will not send his people again into exile but that He will dwell with the people he has gathered. http://www.hermeneutics.stackexchange.com

  7. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Zoe November 25, 2015 at 12:53 PM
    “What is the significance of Ezekiel’s description of God’s heavenly chariot in chapter 1?”

    So your invisible omnipotent god needs a chariot to move from Heaven to Earth? Isn’t it said in your storybook of myth and legends that any one who sees your god’s face will surely die (immediately or at least go blind)?

    This sounds more like a case of a Judeo-Christian ‘reversed’ adaptation of Cervantes Man of la Mancha with the poor enslaved Ezekiel playing the part of Don Quixote.

    But then again it could have been a reliable account of his witnessing the landing of an alien spacecraft. One of the many ‘alien-encounter’ events that have taken place often according to other biblical tales.

    After all your god made billions of galaxies and zillions of planets but certainly not for you to stare at in your dreams.

    Melchizedek was also an alien (space god). Ask Abraham if you doubt the anunnaki (for you nuksie or naki the chimp).


  8. Church history is replete with the tale of those who either ADDED, or TOOK away from the self-authenticating authority of Almighty God’s written Word, the Bible!

    Whenever, anyone or group, either sect/cult, attempted to ADD or TAKE away from God’s Word, they ALWAYS fell into serious error and FALSE doctrine, bar none!

    We are given serious and sober warnings in His Word, NOT to do this!

    The first warning is given in Deuteronomy 4:2

    “Ye shall NOT add unto the Word which I command you, neither shall ye DIMINISH from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God.”

    The second warning is found in the middle of the Scriptures in Proverbs 30: 5,6.

    “EVERY Word of God is PURE. Do NOT add to His Word, (Scriptures) lest He rebuke you, and you be found a LIAR.”

    The third and final warning is found in Revelation 22: 18, 19.

    “For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. If anyone ADDS to these things, God will ADD to him the plagues that are written in this book. And if anyone TAKES AWAY from the words of this book of this prophecy, God shall TAKE AWAY his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Emphasis added.

    “Forever O Lord Thy WORD IS* settled in Heaven.” (Psa, 119:89)

    “Thou hast dealt well with thy servant O Lord, according to Thy Word.” (v.65)

    “I entreated Thy favor with my whole heart: be merciful unto me ACCORDING to THY WORD.” (v.58)

    “They WORD IS* TRUE from the beginning: every one of Thy righteous judgments ENDURETH for EVER.” (v.160).

    “…but my heart standeth in awe of THY WORD. I rejoice at THY WORD.” (vv.161b-152)


  9. Miller-NAKI, Chimpanzee, 🙂

    “But then again it could have been a reliable account of his witnessing the landing of an alien spacecraft. One of the many ‘alien-encounter’ events that have taken place often according to other biblical tales.”

    That would suit your fanciful NAKI, imaginary, FALSE, and erroneous World view!

    Whenever one believes, and embraces, a diabolical FALSITY, a LIE, as the truth; invariably, then, Miller, as you have willfully chosen to do; will reject the TRUTH when it is Coherently, Logically, Historically, and Experientially witnessed to!

    “Professing to be wise, they became FOOLS.” (Rom.1:22)

    Sad, Sad, Sad!!! So it be!!!


  10. God has a well thought out plan for us all and teaches us in the most unexpected ways… for example… he gave women like Zoe yeast infections so that they would know what it is like living with an irritating cunt


  11. @lawson November 24, 2015 at 6:23 AM “One thing that has been answered for me, is where do they find these nut bars willing to strap on a bomb filled vest for the promise of a bunch of virgins.”

    Has nobody told the fellas that a second hand woman on earth is worth more that any number of heavenly virgins.

    And please note that the old men sending young men to die are preserving their own lives, and satisfying themselves with their second hand women right here on earth.


  12. After all virginity is like a balloon. One PRICK and it is all gone.

  13. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Zoe November 25, 2015 at 2:20 PM
    “Whenever, anyone or group, either sect/cult, attempted to ADD or TAKE away from God’s Word, they ALWAYS fell into serious error and FALSE doctrine, bar none!
    We are given serious and sober warnings in His Word, NOT to do this!”

    Now we can see why the book of Enoch is left out of the King James version of your adopted adapted abridged and abrogated collection of myth, legend and lies.

    Death to that murderous homosexual king for hiding from the masses the story of a civil war in heaven.

    “When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them,
    2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.
    3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years.”
    4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days–and also afterward–when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
    5 The LORD saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.
    6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain.
    7 So the LORD said, “I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth–men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air–for I am grieved that I have made them.”
    8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.”

    ‘Not even the penguins living in Antarctica I god the lord will save unless two of them are brought by jet plane to the Ark, immediately.’

    Are you Zoe a descendant of the union between the “sons of God and the genetically modified monkey females? After all they were the ancestors of the humanoids who survived in Noah’s Ark?

  14. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ lawson November 25, 2015 at 2:51 PM #
    “God has a well thought out plan for us all and teaches us in the most unexpected ways… for example… he gave women like Zoe yeast infections so that they would know what it is like living with an irritating cunt”

    LOL!!! That is the best!

    No wonder I am always that itchy when I am ‘finished’ with ac.


  15. lawson November 25, 2015 at 2:51 PM #

    “God has a well thought out plan for us all and teaches us in the most unexpected ways… for example… he gave women like Zoe yeast infections…”

    For the record Lawson, I am NOT a woman… I’m a full blooded MAN!

    BTW, Lawson, you sound like you have a yeast infection in your mouth; wonder where and how you contracted it, or are you naturally ITCHY in the way your speak/write! 🙂


  16. Miller, Any spurious book, and they were many, claiming the authorship of some OT or NT writer, but were LACED in contradictory doctrinal statements, as is found in the so-called book of Enoch, could NOT have being Inspired by the Holy Spirit, hence they were omitted FROM the Canon of Scripture, God’s Word.

    What were the historical reasons why the book of Enoch was excluded from most Christian canons?

    Short Answer: The Book of Enoch is not Scripture. As such, the Holy Spirit did not lead the church to include it in the canon of Scripture.

    The Controversy

    Jude 1:14-15 says this:

    It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”

    This quote from Enoch is not contained in the Bible, which has led many to wonder where Jude got this information.

    In 1956, during the excavation of the Dead Sea Scrolls, a book called “1 Enoch” (a.k.a. The Book of Enoch) was discovered. (NOTE: The excavation uncovered a variety of texts, many of which were not Scriptural.)

    Enoch 1:9 says this:

    And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of holy ones to execute judgement upon all, and to destroy [all] the ungodly: and to convict all flesh of all the works [of their ungodliness] which they have ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners [have spoken] against Him.
    Clearly this is very similar to Jude 1:14-15. The question is: Why?

    Was Jude quoting The Book of Enoch?

    If so, does this mean the Book of Enoch should be considered Scripture?
    Were The Book of Enoch and Jude both quoting from an earlier text (i.e. the actual account of Enoch)?

    Was the author of The Book of Enoch actually quoting from Jude to make their book look more credible?

    What we don’t know is when The Book of Enoch was written, who the author was, or what Jude was quoting. 🙂 (The best I can tell, the Biblical figure Enoch was not the author, but rather, someone who lived closer to the time of Christ, or possibly even after, based on some of the references.) There are many arguments on all sides of this debate, but the real question in the back of many Christian minds is:

    Is it Scripture?

    Is this the Holy-Spirit inspired word of God? This is where we can pretty confidently say “no”. If it were Scripture, we would expect it to be free of false doctrine. What we find instead is that false doctrine is one of the most prevalent themes in the book!

    Taking a cursory look at the text up through Chapter 59, I found the following false doctrines. (I may be off on one here or there, but it should be sufficient to get my point across.)

    1:1 Implies restoration during tribulation – not congruent with scriptures.

    1:8 In conflict with the doctrine that peace was made at the cross. Also, in the last days tribulation will increase for the righteous – this “verse” seems to dispute that.

    2:2-3 Appears to contradict 2 Pet 3:3-7

    5:4 Is an admonition to some unknown party – this is very irregular relative to the scriptures (i.e. authentic ancient writings by God-fearing Jews)

    6:3 Semjaza seems to be listed as the leader of the angels, which is not scriptural

    6:3,8 None of these angels are mentioned in the Bible

    8:1 Azazel isn’t even listed in 6:8 as one of the angels that fornicated with women

    8:3 Araqiel and Shamsiel aren’t listed in 6:8 either

    10:2 Enoch allegedly wrote about Noah, even though the Bible teaches that Enoch was taken up to heaven years before Noah was born.

    10:4-6,12 Implies angels can be bound & hid in holes under rocks. This is contrary to scripture.

    10:8 Ascribes all the sin of the fallen angels to one named Azazel – not scriptural.

    10:15-11:2 Seems to imply that permanent restoration took place after the flood – clearly not true. It seems the true author of this book confused scriptures pertaining to the future restoration.

    13:5-6,14:4-5,7 Implies fallen angels can’t talk to God – this contradicts Job. Also implies that angels were repentant, but weren’t received back by God – very strange doctrine.

    14 Gives a very strange description of Heaven that conflicts with many scriptures

    15:8-10 Very strange doctrine about “evil spirits” proceeding from unredeemable giants

    17-18,21,23 Gives a very strange description of the earth & universe which is clearly not true. Also alludes to the ancient model of astronomy that held that there were 7 stars (the closest planets) which burned like the sun (they don’t.)

    19:3 Discredits all other prophecy about the consumation of the ages.

    20 Lists strange angels not in scripture, and incorrectly assigns the roles of Michael (the warrior) and Gabriel (the messenger)

    21:7-10 Seems to contradict Biblical descriptions of the present & final judgement places for the fallen angels

    22 Contradicts the Biblical descriptions of past, present & future dwelling places for the righteous who die

    32:2-6 Seems to imply the Garden of Eden was still in existance after the Flood

    33:1-2 Says Heaven rests on a foundation that is at the Eastern edge of the earth

    33:3 He claims he counted the stars & individually mapped them, which is impossible scripturally (& scientifically)

    34 Says the winds come out of a “portal” at the Northern edge of the earth

    36:3 Says the stars come out of portals at the Eastern edge of the earth & move West

    38:5-6 Contradicts Daniel & other prophecies about the Mellinial Reign

    39:1-2 Very strange implications here about the “seed” of angels dwelling with men at the end… this contradicts the scriptures

    40:7 Talks about the “Satans” – plural, different than the Bible, who gives that name to only one fallen angel. Also, implies Satan can’t stand in God’s presence, contrary to Job.

    40:9 Once again mixes up the roles of the 2 Archangels & adds more names in. Michael’s role in scripture is related to conquoring nations & fighting spiritual wars, while Gabriel’s relates to bringing messages & visions to people.

    41:1-2 Says the Kingdom of God is divided – it’s not & can’t be scripturally. Also describes sinners being repelled from a mansion, which is also not scriptural, unless you look at a parable Jesus told, which was not intended to be literal.

    41:4-5 Says the sun, moon, winds, etc. are stored in chambers & released at appointed times.

    41:6-7 Implies the sun & moon move opposite of each other

    43:1-3,44 Very weird model of the nature of stars & lightning

    47:4 Says God requires the blood of the saints… very strange

    51:1 Says Sheol & Hell will give back to the earth, which isn’t scriptural – also Hell is a NT term, not OT

    51:2 Disputes the Biblical doctrine that we are chosen. (We don’t have to wait until Christ’s return to be chosen.) This isn’t scriptural.

    General: Seems to imply Enoch came back down to earth after being taken up to Heaven, which is not scriptural.

    Summary

    I think Paul’s words are very pertinent here:

    As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus so that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines, nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith. But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion, wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions. http://www.chriatianity.stackexchange,com


  17. Ancient Aliens DEBUNKED!

    Miller-NAKI, Come now, lets get into a bit of your MYTHOLOGICAL nonsense, and see some FACTS and evidence re the TRUTH!

    There are many similarities between these Sumerian writings and to the biblical accounts of the creation of man and Noah’s flood.

    Some people think this is due to the writers of the Bible copying the earlier Sumerian writings. This is problematic because even the critics who specialize in this style of ancient literature say there is NO EVIDENCE of literary borrowing[14], in fact just the opposite. They propose that they must be referring to a common source for the information.

    One paper by A. Heidel, A.R. Millard and D. Damrosch concludes this way:

    “Literary dependence cannot be demonstrated. Here, as in most of the parallels in the primeval history, it is considered more likely that Mesopotamian and biblical traditions are based on a common source. Some understand this common source to be a piece of more ancient literature, while others consider it the actual event.’ Hill & Walton, ‘A Survey of the Old Testament’, p. (2010).

    Add to this that it is not just the Sumerian texts and the bible that are talking about the same basic story, but obvious elements of this story can be found in almost EVERY early culture, regardless of its location.

    Take for example the story of Viracocha in South America.

    Viracocha created the heavens and the earth. He then took large stones and breathed life into them. But they became giants, so he sent a flood to wipe them out. After the flood he breathed into smaller stones than the first time thereby creating smaller people, which were then scattered all over the world.[15]

    And in the bible, in Genesis 6 we see something similar. The Sons of God disobeyed God, they came to earth had sex with human women, producing giants called Nephilim. The Nephilim over time almost eliminated the original human population, and this is one of the reasons that God sent the flood.[16]

    These stories are found in some form in cultures as geographically separated as you can get. They are in China, Europe, the Middle East, they are found in Native American traditions, in South America and many others.xvii

    The similarities are too obvious to simply dismiss. Things like 8 people being on the boat are mentioned in a good percentage of these stories.[17]

    I personally think that all these cultures are drawing from the same original story, a story that was told only one way, and that as migrations happened from this original group they started adding in details that were more locally important to them. But that each of these cultures sincerely believed they were passing on the true account of the origin of humanity to their descendants as this story was told.

    Ironically if you take it at face value, if there was really a flood and all people except for the ones on the boat were destroyed, and if most modern cultures were descended from them, the fact that the entire world seems to have inherited the same story would make sense, because they essentially had the same eight ancestors who experienced such a dramatic event, and made it a point to pass the story to each generation.

    I propose that something like this really did happen in ancient history. I don’t see any logical way around it. The question I have is which, if any of these accounts, is closest to the truth?

    Ancient Aliens tells us that the Sumerian version is closest to the truth because they were recorded earlier. That makes sense to a point, but we have to remember that the events described in the Sumerian texts were still ancient history to the Sumerians. So the question is not so much about the date of the writing, but rather their ability to preserve the story.

    I’ll give you a few very good reasons to seriously doubt that the Sumerian accounts should be given more weight where they differ from the others.

    The first is that the Sumerians stories are NOT logically consistent.
    Take for example that in both the Sumerian and Biblical accounts, dimensions for the boat are given.

    The mere fact that an important part of this story is the dimensions of the boat is interesting, but when you draw out the dimensions, you have on the one hand the Sumerian boat, being a big cube, and the biblical one being described by naval engineers as nearly PERFECT for maintaining stability without hull damage in incredibly rough seas.[18]

    Another reason not to trust the Sumerian texts where they differ from the others is that, as every Sumerian scholar knows, the Sumerians CONSTANTLY change the details of their stories to suit the different situations.

    For example, texts of the same story found in the temple of Enki will differ from ones found in the temple of Innana, even if they are from the same time period, but especially if they’re from a different time period. To quote one Sumerian scholar:

    “Inconsistencies are a regular feature of Sumerian poetry.”

    He goes on to say that “integration of different texts [by the Sumerian scribes] often appear somewhat careless.”[19]

    Compare that with the ancient Hebrew scribes, who were notorious for taking their job ultra-seriously. They had many rules that governed their coping of their sacred texts.

    For example, it is said that they would have to speak every letter out loud before committing it to paper.[20][21]

    One example of a vindication of this METICULOUS attention to detail is with the Isaiah scroll found in the Dead Sea scrolls.

    The earliest copies of the Hebrew Old Testament before the Dead Sea Scrolls were the Masoretic texts which were copied between the years 600-1000AD. So the Isaiah scroll, one of the best preserved scrolls, would be a way to prove or disprove if their scriptures had been faithfully copied by the scribes during the previous 800 years. As it turned out they did a FLAWLESS job and the Hebrew scribes were vindicated.[22][23]

    So when deciding which texts are more accurate as it relates to their accounts of ancient events it is far more logical to assume that the group with a tradition of accurate preservation and transmission of their texts should be given more weight than a culture like the Sumerians who seemed to have little interest in the accurate transmission of the details of their stories.

    To sum up, almost everything that Ancient Aliens says about the Annunaki is, UN TRUE which is not surprising considering they copy and pasted almost everything in this section from the books of Zecharia Sitchin.

    For more information about Sitchin’s errors in his translations of the Sumerians and Arkaddian texts, I will direct you to the excellent website of doctor Michael Heiser ‘Sitchiniswrong.com’.

    See more at: http://ancientaliensdebunked.com/references-and-transcripts/anunnaki/#sthash.Z3pDFomj.dpuf


  18. @millertheanunnaki November 25, 2015 at 3:10 PM #

    Look at at what you have re-started….presumably we will now be inundated with copy&paste from all the nonsense books pertaining to this rubbish…..note not one original idea…..


  19. Curious to know if anyone reads the copy paste by Zoe.


  20. I don’t.


  21. A boy named Sue by Johnny Cash……can you put yourself in their shoes for a moment the ridicule and bullying that would happen . So if we are to believe Zoe that he isn’t a chick with a dick and is a full blooded man. I for one will give him a little leeway for his parents misguided attempt to toughen him up. Not that I will read any of it


  22. LOL @ David
    Curious to know if anyone reads the copy paste by Zoe.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    …so do you think that Zoe thinks that anyone reads that copy and paste material?
    ..of COURSE he doesn’t…. he is a bright fella..

    The intent is to end any discussion ..with others resigning themselves to the fruitlessness of arguing…. That is how almost ALL churches operate Boss…
    He means well, however …. because of course HIS particular brand of religion happens to be THE correct one 🙂

    GP says so….
    LOL
    Shirrtt!!!


  23. @Bush Tea

    What you posted does not make sense, shouldn’t Christians attempt to communicate in. ‘user friendly manner ‘? Should they preach to only the converted? Where is the sense in it? The flip side of the comment is true, non believers should be tolerant as well, the right to associate with rekigion is a constitutional recognition not so?

  24. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ lawson November 26, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Lawson you too lawless with your Priapus-like satire. LOL!!
    A boy name ‘Sue’ could be changed to a boy name Dick Head in Zoe’s case


  25. @David November 26, 2015 at 12:38 PM #

    Why should one preach or attempt to convert any one?

    Knowledge is available to everyone,now moreso than ever due to the advent of the net……seek and ye shall find.

    Every person is entitled to their own opinion,no need to force it on others.

    If like minded individuals wish to have a discourse let them arrange to do so.


  26. @David, you are showing your youthful age with the quip “… ‘user friendly manner”.

    And when have you known Mr Bush Tea to ever make a comment that ‘does not make sense’. Shame on you David, to assert such a thing! LOLLL.

    BTW, I sent you an email for your review and use as desired. Too much time on my hands today!

    And @Bush Tea, I want to hear your serious views on that commentary, not your normally pithy, glib stuff. The deep, inside the Board room dissecting stuff.


  27. @ Dee Ingrunt Word
    Bush Tea, I want to hear your serious views on that commentary, not your normally pithy, glib stuff.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Be reasonable DIW….
    You can’t seriously want Bushie to bring pearls to the table can you…?
    What is the point of serious commentary at a comedy show?

    David asked…
    “….shouldn’t Christians attempt to communicate in a ‘user friendly manner ‘? Should they preach to only the converted? Where is the sense in it?”
    +++++++++

    In order to be ‘serious’, there would need to be so many questions asked…
    …so many words defined…
    like…
    What is a Christian?
    What is their role and mission?
    What is the whole point of it….?

    So..
    The bushman was just answering the specific question as to whether anyone reads Zoe’s copy and paste….
    Bushie don’t read ANY copy and paste that is longer than a reasonable paragraph on BU… If the bushman wanted to debate with such originators, it is usually quite easy to find them on a blog somewhere, on facebook, or on some academic discussion board… This rumshop is about exchanging personal ‘Bajan-centric’ thoughts ..as far as Bushie is concerned.

    So-called ‘Christians’ are for the most part, simply victims of circumstance, who have been forced-fed a lifetime of doctrinal dogma that they DO NOT UNDERSTAND; cannot explain – except in unintelligible cliches; and which they only nominally buy into…

    Like CSME, they have an intuitive inclination to have large numbers around them, …so proselytizing has become a way of life for most. HOWEVER, probing questions by intelligent interests are unwelcome and frowned upon (for obvious reasons).
    Church apologists (such as Zoe and his alto ego) do not REALLY wish to delve into the kinds of issues raised by unbelievers, but would prefer that as many as possible just accept that “they know what is best”; …that centuries of church fathers can’t all have been wrong, (as if centuries of every other shiite have not been CLEARLY wrong) ….and most critically, that of course, Bushie is a seed-picker …and a nasty piece of bush shiite 🙂

    …so what serious view what??!!


  28. Zoe , why do you bother ? To engage fools in dialogue is to give credence to their folly. Fallaciously irrelevant argumentation in dialogue is completely useless and cannot be extrapolated forward to fulfil any goal other than to deny , deny , deny , or to try to decimate you with vile , nasty ad hominem attacks when everything else fails. The probative burden is on the scoffers, not you . Your facts are sound and irrefutable . You are a true warrior for the Christian faith.


  29. Why the name change? Your “ad hominem” and “scoffers” betray you.


  30. Here comes Dictionary who obviously sees logic in a commenter who resorts to copy posting 2, 000 words at a time. If this is not shown to be effective why not leverage ones intelligence to ‘win’ exchanges. If you have to support your point post the link with the opening paragraph to make the point strong. A basic principle of communication is ensuring the receiver understands the message.

  31. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Is that you Alvin …….nah


  32. I just want to say that I am NOT ”dictionary ”, whoever that is . It is totally absurd to make these hasty judgements , blaming an innocent person for something they had no part of. Those are words that I see used here quite frequently, by many others .If you are referring to Zoe with the copy and paste remark, he is fully within his right to quote experts in their particular field . I often see on this blog many Google certified geneticists, theologists, and astrologists expounding on DNA , genes , cosmological sciences , things that require years of specialised education , but which they managed to achieve with a five minutes on the internet. Shame on you.


  33. Who is preventing Zoe from quoting experts? We are saying, and it is simple thing, post links to the experts, extract a paragraph or two even BUT have respect for blog etiquette and several requests from the blogmaster i.e. those who have to read. Do you understand Dictionary? Is is a Christian behaviour to be amenable to reasonable requests.

    On 26 November 2015 at 21:43, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >


  34. LOL @ David
    It seems to be something that they smoke in church….. makes them aggressive and abusive. Perhaps they are putting some tampie in the incense yuh… 🙂

    Seriously…
    Who the hell goes into a ‘rum-shop’ reading verbatim from religious books? ..steupss!!
    A clear sign of a good understanding of a subject, is the ability to explain that subject in SIMPLY, everyday language, to those who do not get it …and even to those who DO NOT WANT to get it…

    @ Donna
    You bad too….
    Ha ha ha
    LOL


  35. Precisely, Bushie!

    People who really understand the subject matter can break it down for the “BIBLE ILLITERATES”, I ‘m sure. Others try to confuse with cut and paste PhD. Pure Horse Dung. LOL. Just kidding!

    By the way, you and I still disagree on the “Trinity shiite” but I have been reading with an open mind as I do when necessary. It is actually encouraged among ANGLICAN scholars. And yes I did say ANGLICAN.


  36. LOL @ Donna
    Hopefully you won’t let a little myth like the ‘Trinity’ get between us…. LOL
    if you truly have an open mind Bushie could explain that shiite in a few sentences….

    Of course your ‘problem’ is that almost everything in your church is built around it…. as exemplified in the “apostle’s creed” ….where they make you stand up and affirm your ‘belief’ in this trinity myth…. it would shake your very foundation D


  37. @David November 26, 2015 at 10:34 AM “Curious to know if anyone reads the copy paste by Zoe.”

    No David. I do not read anything Zoe writes, because Zoe refuses to say anything in 10 words when 10,000 will do.

    I read the Bible sometimes. For example:

    “Love God and Love thy neighbour”

    Short and sweet and no lotta long shite talk.

    But then that is Jesus talking. A real, real boss.

    Not a shite talker like Zoe, or Bush Tee, or Clarence Blackett nor Georgie Porgie.


  38. @millertheanunnaki November 25, 2015 at 10:01 AM “In the thirtieth year, in the fourth month on the fifth day, while I was among the exiles by the Kebar River, the heavens were opened and I saw visions of God. 2 On the fifth of the month–it was the fifth year of the exile of King Jehoiachin– 3 the word of the LORD came to Ezekiel the priest, the SON of Buzi, by the Kebar River in the land of the Babylonians. There the hand of the LORD was upon HIM. 4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north–an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was that of a MAN,

    I notice a lotta man talk in the passage you quoted. Question miller. Does your God have anything to do with women?


  39. LOL @ Simple
    The difference with Bushie is that shiite talk goes with the territory… 🙂

    You ever worked a whacker yet….?
    well shiite, slugs, snails, rocks, bush … every thing flying bout the place.
    ha ha ha
    How else can people like you be kept in check?
    David too ‘nicey nicey’ for your donkey…


  40. @lawson November 25, 2015 at 7:07 AM “Why would God give man a brain and a penis and only enough blood to work one at a time.”

    That now is the greatest mystery of the universe.


  41. @Zoe November 25, 2015 at 10:30 PM “For the record Lawson, I am NOT a woman… I’m a full blooded MAN!”

    I knew it. I knew it. ‘becausin’ no woman on earth could be so miserable.


  42. @Bush Tea November 26, 2015 at 7:44 PM “It seems to be something that they smoke in church. Perhaps they are putting some tampie in the incense yuh”

    ROFLMAO.

    Lol!!!!!!!!!!!

    Good one Bushie.

  43. St George's Dragon Avatar
    St George’s Dragon

    “I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north–an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was that of a man but each of them had four faces and four wings. Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. Under their wings on their four sides they had the hands of a man. All four of them had faces and wings and their wings touched one another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved. Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a man, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle.”
    I had a similar experience a few years ago. I swore afterwards that I would never take hallucinogenic drugs again.


  44. CONTEND FOR THE FAITH.: “Beloved, while I was very diligent to write you concerning our COMMON salvation. I found it necessary to write you exhorting you to CONTEND earnestly for the FAITH, which was ONCE for all delivered to the saints.”

    “For certain men have crept in unnoticed who long ago were marked out for this CONDEMNATION, UNGODLY men, who turn the Grace of our God into lewdness, and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.” (Jude1: 3,4) Empgasis added.

    The Christian life, is not necessarily a bed-of-roses, as is clearly brought out in this text and others in the NT.

    ”to contend’ ‘epagonzomai’ means ‘to carry on a conflict, debate, or legal suit. Two other associated Gk words, are, ‘Agonizomai’, to fight, and ‘Agon’ Conflict, fight.

    ‘Once for all’ is from the Greek word, ‘Hapax’ strictly numerical concept…. NO further doctrinal revelation is required! Delivered is from ‘Paradotheisie’ a technical term when the object is, teaching, ie., doctrine, salvation.

    FAITH, as used here by Jude, under divine inspiration, is NOT the subjective trust that a believer must have, but by grammar and context of the discourse, is referring to, the BODY and SUBSTANCE of doctrinal TRUTH, taught and believed, which was ONCE FOR ALL, delivered to the saints.

    So help me God, I can do none other! In the face of “…UNGODLY men, who turn the Grace of our God into LEWDNESS, and deny the ONLY Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.”

    So it be!!!


  45. @Zoe November 27, 2015 at 8:52 AM #

    Chuckle…..keep socking it to them……….hard ears wunt hear hard ears gine feel.


  46. Preach the Word.

    “I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead, at His appearing and His Kingdom.”

    “Preach the WORD! Be ready in season, and OUT of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.”

    “For the time will come when THEY will NOT endure sound doctrine, but accroring to their own desires, BECAUSE they have ITCHING ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will TURN their ears AWAY from the TRUTH, and be turned aside to fables.”

    “But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.”

    All of this UNGODLINESS, and LEWDNESS, turning away from the TRUTH, is rampant right here on BU, in a variety of differing shades!!!


  47. Bushie,

    I’ve already had my foundation shaken at CODRINGTON COLLEGE. That’s where our beliefs are torn apart in unbelievable fashion and statements previously vilified as heretical are often made by tutors. One tutor, who was thought to be good material for Principal, told his class he believed that Jesus was a man who earned his Godship by total surrender to the Father. “HERESY!” they would have cried in times past. The beauty of Anglican scholarship is that they are encouraged to be open-minded. We do change our doctrine but only after a stringent process and great evidence supporting the change. And dogma, as opposed to doctrine, is given lesser weight. We believe that we do not know it all but we will keep on learning. You would be amazed at the diversity of beliefs in the Anglican Church. We are not brainwashed. We are allowed to grow and develop at our own pace. Love it!

    After Codrington College I prayed for discernment and slowly picked up the pieces of my faith and pieced them back together. My puzzle still misses some pieces and some I had no longer fit but I have no “problem” and no need of instruction from you. If it is there I will see it. So far I have NOT.


  48. The Anglican church, like the Roman Catholic and Methodist church’s, have a fundamental, and most serious doctrinal ERROR, in their belief system. What is it?

    I was baptized as a baby, in the Anglican church. But, I was not raised in in Anglicanism, thank God!

    The Cart before the Horse! Can’t work, simply not Scriptural!

    First, they teach that at ‘Baby’ Baptism’ one becomes a Christian; which is then ‘Confirmed’ at Confirmation!

    Neither ‘Baby’ baptism, nor Confirmation, has any NT Scriptural warrant, what so ever! Because a Baby CANNOT repent, it is not aware of the FACT that it is a SINNER; therefore, it is NOT accountable before God, until it reaches the age of moral accountability, which varies between boys and girls, only God truly knows.

    What is the Scriptural basis for Baptism?

    Peter, preaching the FIRST sermon after the Day of Pentecost, said:

    “Repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” ( Acts 2:38)

    A BABY cannot repent, it is not cognizant of being a SINNER!

    Secondly, the mention of both repentance and baptism does NOT mean both are necessary for the forgiveness of sins. It is REPENTANCE, (which a baby cannot do!) but NOT baptism, that is necessary for the forgive of sins!

    You cannot FORCE, or impute, the Gift of Salvation, on a Baby, or anyone else, without their free-will consent, and it must be, by sincere REPENTANCE, FIRST, then followed by full water immersion, in baptism. But baptism does NOT Save anyone, baby or adult!


  49. @Zoe November 27, 2015 at 10:26 PM “‘Baby’ baptism…has any NT Scriptural warrant”

    Dear Zoe:

    Please read Acts 16:33, again and again, and again if necessary. This passage is the Scriptural basis for infant baptism.

    Acts 16:33 “At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized.”

    How likely is it Zoe that in an era without condoms and oral contraceptive pills that there would be a household without children?

    Please note that the Scripture [not me] says “ALL his household” were baptised. ALL means everybody who lives in that household, men, women, children, servants, slaves etc. ALL of them by the grace of God were baptised.

    Amen.


  50. Acts 16:33 IS DEFINITELY NOT the Scriptural basis for infant baptism.
    ALSO SPRINKLING IS NOT BAPTISM
    IN THE GREEK ALWAYS THE WORD IS BAPTISO WHICH IMPLIES BEING IMMERSED

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