PROPOSED Cahill Waste to Energy Plant Generating More Questions Than Answers
Submitted by Anthony Davis
Clare Cowan, CEO of Cahill Energy
The Guernsey-based plasma gasification company, Cahill Energy seems baffled by “the continuing objections from Barbadians” regarding the controversial waste-to-energy project, with Chief Executive Officer (CEO) […]Clare Cowan blaming ‘incredible misinformation’ for the resistance. – Barbados Today (23 July, 2015)
Under the headline “Exposed MOTTLEY CALLS ON PM TO INVESTIGATE EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT” on page 3 of BARBADOS TODAY dated June 16, 2015, In her reply to the 2015/16 Budget report, Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley stated: “Under a MOU signed on March 15 last year between the Minister of Finance,the Minister of the Environment Denis Lowe, the Minister of Energy Senator Darcy Boyce, and the Minister of Housing Denis Kellman, and the CEO of Cahill Energy Clare Cowan, the Canadian firm was exempted from paying a slew of taxes, including corporation tax, Value Added Tax, transfer tax, import duties on waste, tyres and other supply items, as well as export duties.”
It seems to me that Mrs. Cowan and the Minister of the Environment cannot understand the pros and quos of this infamous deal. Pray tell me, why would any company build any plant whereby the people of the relative country wouldn’t have to pay one red cent for placing the plant at the Government’s and the people’s disposal? Is this company a philanthropic one?
Methinks not!
I find it condescending of Mrs. Cowan to state that the reason they had awarded the building of this plant in Barbados is because Barbadians are the better educated of the people in the Caribbean. This statement is nothing but a means of buttering us up so that we would accept this waste of energy plant. Also, the economic situation of Barbados is at present no better than any of the other countries in the Caribbean.
If the people of Barbados do not have to spend anything on this project, who will pay for all of the free things which the Leader of the Opposition mentioned in her reply to the Budget, and to which no one on the Government benches found the audacity to refute? The Minister of Tourism, who spoke after the Leader of the Opposition didn’t even try to deny what she said, but made some statement about her not saying anything pertaining to the budget.
Mrs. Cowan sidestepped many questions about this sweetheart deal which is bound to make “Butch” Stewart green with envy. Mrs. Cowan is right in one thing, i.e. that we are educated. We are educated enough to know that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Someone has got to pay the bill. In this case however, those who called the tune won’t be the ones to pay the piper, but the taxpayers of Barbados – the people who you say won’t have to pay anything.
The Minister of Finance has “a low cash flow”, but he can afford to give away millions of our tax dollars in free water, free land, waivers of taxes, etc. for some company which we know nothing about. There are people in this country who don’t even get water on a regular basis, but still have to pay the BWA exorbitant sums of money for a commodity which they have not received. If one of these same people defaults on his/her payment I bet the water would be cut off.
How do we know if by digging so many wells on the free 27 acres of land at Vaucluse it will not destabilise the land and cause some environmental problem which would cause us to spend millions of dollars to rectify it? There are too many unknowns with this plant – especially seeing that no one is prepared to explain to the populace of this country what the real deal is. What is the situation with the state-of-the-art Andrews factory? Are we to assume that that is no longer viable? What about about all of these clean energy companies which have recently been formed?
In the MOU it states that Cahill Energy will be allowed to import tyres and other people’s garbage to be incinerated here, How come Mrs. Cowan is denying this? The Minister of the Environment stated that in 25 years Barbados would be free of garbage. Will the plant be decommissioned then if, as Mrs. Cowan stated, no garbage will be imported?
I SHOULD THINK NOT!
They are not philanthropists.
My biggest problem with this plant is the possibility of nuclear ash ending up here to be burnt at Vaucluse. We all know that the wind blows from whatever direction it pleases, whenever it pleases, and wherever it pleases so we cannot stand by and say: It does not affect me. This affects us all, and I think that the populace of this country had better get off their butts and see what they can do about this thing that is being fobbed off on us without any proper explanation.
This will be too large a burden for our children and their children to bear. The only thing that will be safe is the money flowing into Cahill’s pockets.
“Beware of gift-bringing Greeks!”
Barbados Underground 
Cahill seems like a political gift for the opposition, a gift which keeps on giving.
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Politicians in Barbados have been doing more and more shiite over the years and it was only a matter of time before the pile reached a fan.
It seems that the fan has been reached.
How allegedly intelligent MINISTERS of government could fall for such stupidity…
How a PM can sit (or sleep) quietly while it gets messier and nastier…
How Newspapers can continue to be so RESTRAINED in the face of such nastiness…
How the opposition can rest on their laurels after Mia’s initial foray…..
How Bajan people can remain focused on wukking up as the saga unfolds…
The only sane answer is….
TOTAL and complete brass bowlery…..
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Let us buy the explanation this plasma plant is good for Barbados, why build a 1000 plant and have to grow king grass to feed it?
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I know my head hard but I cannot find one single positive for having this plant.Not even for political expediency, since this project has singularly eradicated any political credibility this government has left.Imagine a government bragging about negligible economic growth based on tourism yet hell bent on creating an ecological disaster.
Minister of Environment skinning he teet the plant will eliminate the use of landfills.The silly crapaud dont realise in order to have maintain a high level of garbage input for the plant ,they will have to resort to using a landfill type storage facilities since an overwhelming quantity will have to be imported.
Any clown can see this project cannot possibly turn a profit, even with the best of intentions.The numerous spinoff issues will simply outstrip any revenue earned.
Blasted fools.
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Cat is out of the bag…! Barbadians better educated that the rest of us poor souls…! Maybe, but the rest of us poor fools have common sense of which is rare to many Barbadian especially those in power…! My view is, tell the Canadians to bugger off… They must not spoil this beauty Island…! They would NEVER dare do such a thing in Canada!
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So when are we as a nation going to call a halt to this nonsense .
The overwhelming data should be enough to kill this thing
Yet it is still out there like an STD that won’t go away
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So what’s the next move from Cahill
She promised investors
Where have they gone
We have put up with her lies for 16 months
Is there a time is of the essence clause in the contract
If there is she must have breached the contract by now
In order for her to start construction in September as she stated the port should be laiden with steel and equipment
It’s a big scam and a fraud .
Prime minister please do your job and kill this unmitigated disaster.
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Didn’t Cahill advise there is enough garbage in Barbados to satisfy the plant? Why grow king grass to satisfy a 1000 capacity plant? Why not aggressively adopt recycling and zero waste approaches to reduce waste over time?
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550 tons a day of garbage depending on the actual CV of the garbage may give you 20to 25 mega watts output …. Take out the parasitic load of maybe 20% the out put for just garbage gasification could be 16 to 20 megawatts
That’s half the power that’s contracts for (we think )
The CIM has lots of good info on the garbage makeup how real is the 550 tons a day is a big question
SBRC must have daily tonnage numbers
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So fare we have to take Cahill word because the government has not been sharing info with its citizens.
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@David will they also be using coconut shells from the future Coconut Industry?
http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/70122/coconut-opportunity
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Wait ! excuse me you guys still in the BU classroom debate Cahill, Well the word out is that the only thing that can stop this project is an act of GOD or the EPA,, so get this straight just turn up for the opening of the WTE plant and bring some of the garbage being wasted on BU.Oh! btw u Cahill might even pay you for it ,
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ac
the WTE will not be built and if it ever is, Cahill will be long gone with a fist full of money.
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Just in case some of you may not have seen this video on the other blogs.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=bh5WLA6gWvE&teature=youtu.be
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Clearly someone had one too many gin and tonic or vodka and orange drinks before hand.
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ac; Re your 5:59 post.
You might be right.
You said “Well the word out is that the only thing that can stop this project is an act of GOD or the EPA”
I remember DaCosta Edwards saying some similar words many decades ago when he had a run in with Barrow. He said “I ent fraid uh Barrow, He can’ brek me. Only God can brek me”
We all know how DaCosta Edwards ended up. He was right, it wasn’t Barrow who brekked him.
Here’s hoping that Cahill and those who profited or stand to profit from it will follow suit
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ac,
If you immoral dems think that you all can continue to rub shit in Barbadians’ mouths and tell them that it is chocolate cake……………..you dems dont know that the silent ones will soon get up. The day is coming when Barbadians will rise up and boldly say to you dems……..we are not taking this shit anymore.
Barbadians are followers………did you see how many whites came out to that meeting? Well, when the whites start to lead this movement, the blacks will follow and the dems’ ass will be grass!
What will you dems do to Barbadians who form a ring around the place and prevent any work from starting? Crack our heads and shoot some of us?
By the way, I have seen this inept incompetent minister of garbage bring any resolution to the House to transfer the taxpayers’ land Cahill is demanding that they give to them free of cost!
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No disrespect to the coconut vendors, but the more I see of this Clare Clowan in the videos on BU the more difficult it is to believe that she could be the CEO of a road-side coconut stand at the side of the ABC highway.
She said “potable water just means toilet bowl quality”. In fact potable water is water which is fit for consumption by humans and other animals. It is also called drinking water, in a reference to its intended use.
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Oops!
By the way, I have NOT seen this inept incompetent minister of garbage bring any resolution to the House to transfer the taxpayers’ land Cahill is demanding that they give to them free of cost!
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DD
She is just a front, give her a break. If you get a top notch CEO (a real qualified and experienced one) then you will have to pay them and that is just going to be added expenses which it turn reduces the size of the pot of money to be split between the boys.
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DD,
You are so right! She is clearly out of her depths and she certainly is learning from these morons we have as cabinet ministers……….how to lie out of both sides of her mouth. She is comes over as so incompetent.
How the hell do these ministers meet up with these shady characters? There again, birds of a feather flock together!
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The video reveals a woman under the influence.Nobody can tell me she wants to supply a WTE plant to Barbados and Stuart see this performance and sign off on it.Potable water is drinking water NOT toilet bowl water.We are dealing with a fool where that is concerned but she at least admits that bajans need to talk to their government……only if the government will talk to us bajans!!!Cowan can neither hanlde the booze nor the questions.
We might have to ask Roger M to standby with some boulders and the
excavator he used on Miles R house when Miles was giving trouble to a family member.He was imprisoned in his house by dem thar big boulders.Not even the police could help Miles that day.
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That stupid ass woman and panel in that video spitting in our face and think its laughing sport.
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We are becoming the laughing stock of the Caribbean this crazy bitch has dragged us through the gutter. the only good thing to come out this is we showed the bitch that she can’t pull the wool over the eyes of the people like she has done with all those high flying consultants and ministers .
When is she going to come clean and let this island nation deal with its own issues .
Being introduced by seventh heaven does not make u god or tge EPA !!!She thinks she was elected to be our saviour . she is so wrong……
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Lansdale B on July 30, 2015 at 3:58 AM
More like an excess of dutch courage and prescription pills
Am I wrong or does she resemble Zira from the planet of the apes ????
That’s a bit tooooo cruel
I think that actress had a talent and won an academy award for a her craft.
There are no redeeming factors to this carpet bagger clown woman
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BU thank you for the amazing insight into this phantasmagorical tale
I am truly flabbergasted by this fairytale turned nightmarish saga.
I wasn’t aware that our island had become a Canadian Provence ???
The Cahill woman went to great lengths in that utube video to extolle the fact that Canada built the island and the banks here are all Canadian I was wondering why she has gone to such great lengths to setup her carpet baggers shell companies off shore in Guernsey ??
It’s not for the benefit of Barbados that’s for sure.
She is correct about one very important thing .. We are well educated and won’t be fooled by her shallow non answers
Mr PM
Please step in and whip your ministers into shape.
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The video supplied by Artaxerxes is a GEM.
At 4.17 sec into the tape you see how drunk Clare Cowan was/is (I think it was Hant’s peeple who say dat she always drunk)
Her words were “What was the question…did i answer her question again??” and the telltale Jackass smirk of the inebriated, that grin which says “wunna dun know I talking Vodka Shyte doah””
If de ole man did know bout de internet en dese videos en ting, I wud jes sit down en spice togedder she fowl up, bleeps and blunders and jes post dem all ovah de internet!!
We does doan tink yuh know…
A video with this woman mekking an ass uh she self is much more effective as a tool of absolute discrediting than any full video of her saying her ingrunce
Me gran chilrun does use Tommy de talking Cat and mek some real funny videos man
Dis is a comedy video dat a fellow who got dese skills would got a field day wid man dis in Benny Hill moments…
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She prickle?
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Somehow I get the impression that we as Bajans DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE POWER THAT WE HAVE and DO NOT KNOW HOW TO FIGHT BATTLES.
De ole man going title this submission “the use of Paratroopers”
In the old time days, two armies squared off and charged each other and the last man standing was the winner.
The use of forces behind the enemy’s lines has turned many a war and even today becomes the modus of military action and corporate interventions through the tiefing of competitor technologies and the severity of reprisal as in the MH370 incident over the Indian ocean.
What Bajans are failing to understand is that, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT BLACKLIPS LOWEDOWN WANTS TO DO, if the investors cannot be found to back up the ingrunt pipedream, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN!!
So what WE have to do is to deal with the Investor Pool aggressively!!
The use of Paratroopers starting to make sense now right??
The campaign of discreditation and behind the lines forays especially when they are led by the bajan white population WILL HAVE ITS EFFECT!!
White peeples unlike we bajans DOAN back down from nuffin!!
Whereas Mia might only be able to get 2 or 3 hunred peeple to mach wid she fuh two days tops, dese buckras will do it till de COWS (no pun intended) come home!!
Cowan ent getting no WTE ASSIFICATION plant while dis section of we population is against it!!
I gine hafta give up trying to get a job at Anne Gittens at de Nation and see if dem white bajans wud like to hire me…
COW doan mind dat i did say that you madam miss Hoagie did piggsh when she did put de garbage pun dat black umman counter in de boutique in Speightstown, leh we let bygones be bygones, especailly since you bruddah got he eyes pun WTE proposals too.
Gi’ muh a little piece (not of Hoagie) a piece uh wuk and I wud gi wunna a few ideas to help wid dis lowdown ting…man leh a man who only pun he pension get a likkle piec nuh????
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As reported in the press today, all these backpeddlers are reversing so damn fast that I hope they all have rear view mirrors on their bicycles or else there could be a ‘major incident’ on the roads.
Shuffler, BCCI “Too many questions remain unanswered by Cahill”;
Donville Inniss, “Even though Cabinet has approved the proposal, it’s not a done deal….it has not yet attracted the attention of Town and Country Planning….we still have processes to go through…there should be more transparency by the Freundel Stuart administration”;
Estwick, “has not yet wrapped his head around the details…..I have not had any formal discussions (regarding water) at this stage”;
Peter Williams, Emera, “I am not aware any discussions have taken place (with BL&P)…. We considered plasma gasification several years ago…but opted not to proceed as there was no comercially proven experience”.
Starting work in September Ms. Cowan? Ahm… I don’t think so somehow.
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Now folks we elected a bunch of fools to run this country. They in turn have teamed up with more fools to build a 700M WTE plant. Not one of them have expertise in this industry. We have a long track record of not being able to do ANYTHING PROPERLY!
Look around Barbados and see how many buildings that are badly in need of repairs. We are given things like a public library by a foundation with the only obligation we have is to maintain it. Look what has happened! It is now closed because of lack of maintenance. We were given a Gymnasium and it needed repairs. With NO SHAME we have gone back to the donors and asked them to fix it for us. Yet we see all kind of activities taking place there. Church services, competitions, shows etc and can’t find the money to maintain the place.
We had a sugar cane industry that has now produced the lowest tonnage of sugar ever in the history of Barbados. And we hear they want to grow grass to feed this WTE plant to burn all kinds of garbage to make energy. We can’t even grow enough canes for local sugar consumption but we want to build a state of the art sugar factory. We have sunshine all year round and yet no national plan to become the world’s leading solar producers. Yes we produced solar water heaters and remained there for decades feeling that we were the leaders in this technology while others were going ahead with newer technology.
We were one of the few countries in the world that used to grow the finest cotton and today we see farmers ploughing back the cotton back into their field because of no one to harvest it. We had a company that brought in expensive machinery to process this expensive cotton and they have all gone to rust and never been used.
Look around at the wastage of Tax payers monies where no one was ever accountable for. What a great track record we have for maintaining and producing. Will we ever accept our true limitations and do something about it?
Were the four Ministers who have signed the contract for the WTE plant present at the recent town hall meetings? They were bold enough to hide and do this but are not brave enough to face the public! They need to face the population and answer our questions. Until Bajans begin mobilizing themselves and show their distaste for what is happening nothing will be done!
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A friend of mind who has been the medical fraternity in the United Kingdom for the last 25 years (after watching some of the videos) sent me this:
Alcohol is a depressant of the Central Nervous System. That means that alcohol makes nerve cells in the brain less excited, causing them to slow down. Does this surprise you? People often think that alcohol is a “pick-me-up” experience because it causes drinkers to become more animated and less reserved. That’s because the first areas affected by small amounts of alcohol are those involved in inhibiting behaviours, which can cause an increase in animation, an increase in talkativeness, and greater sociability. But there are many indications that the brain is slowing down. Here are a few:
(1) Altered speech
(2) Hazy thinking
(3) Slowed reaction time
(4) Dulled hearing
(5) Impaired vision
(6) Weakened muscles
(7) Foggy memory
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Can alcoholics bind a company/themselves in a contract or contracts?
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Unfortunately alcoholism is not a sectionable condition
Misrepresentation however is cause for termination
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If you listen to the ramblings of the Cahill lady on u tube he says she has spent $5,000,000 dollars that’s $B10,000,000 and has paid everyone .
With $5 million paid out what was actually achieved ????
I would suggest nothing other than a waste study that is yet to be published or made public.
With no audited accounts to see how can we believe this phenomenal figure with absolutely zero to show for it.
MEClare Cowan please answer the following
1. Is the number real ???
2 what deliverables have been achieved an issued for the $$$ effort????
3. Has everyone been paid for their efforts????
4.is the $5million inclusive of vat and has Cahill collected the tax and if so where did the tax go ???
5. Or has Cahill applied for the appropriate tax exemption certificate needed to claim back any taxes incurred .
$5million with Zero to show for it either
It’s a lie or its another falsehood .
Clarity and transparency would be nice.
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She may be correct about the $5M.
The needed ‘up-front’ payments nowadays ain’t easy hear?
How do you think the mothers of MPs accumulate $3M in their personal accounts?
…and multiple moms were involved here weren’t they…?
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@Bushie did you read that Cahill has not had discussions with BL&P ?
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@ Hants
Boss, that is Canadian business…. fuh you so to deal with… You and Lawson probably got shares in both Cahill and Emera…
A bushman don’t push his whacker in white people grass …. 🙂
Man Hants, this thing was only intended to be a short-lived scam – just long enough for a few million in expenses to be racked up before ‘circumstances beyond their control’ put a stop to the shiite.
…wunna nosey BU people gone and stir up a hornet’s nest….
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Hants
Why would they need to when Cahill has a water-tight, belts and braces Power Purchase Agreement with the Government of Barbados……………..signed and sealed by the 4 rouge ministers?
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Hence the transparency
Where are the authorisations and approvals that should be part of the contract.
You can’t bring in a bag of sugar to the island without the correct piece of paper !!!
Are we also saying that she has been carrying out work on the island without the proper approvals
The only other explanation is she paid herself and for her four seasons lifestyle and is claiming it as business expences
To be claimed back from the unsuspecting buyers.
Coincidence or setup her FS business address is also her home address ……….
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The drunk is hoping to just hold on long enough to sell the shell company to some unsuspecting buyer. All this noise and allegations in harming her chances and clearly she has resorted to imbibing considerable quantities of intoxicating refreshments of the liquid kind.
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@Bushie,
I is a han to mout Bajan. I doan have nuh shares in nutten.lol
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Ask the Hilton how much she consumes then u will agree she has spent $5million
Cheap Chardonnay ain’t cheap at the Hilton and then she treats the staff like shite.
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Where are her investors now ??????
If they are out there they need to step up to the plate. She needs u now or never….
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Imagine Estwick now plans to do “reearch” after MoUs done sign!!!
His time would be better spent telling us how a project that requires the change of use of acres of agriculture land to site the plant, acres to grow grass and the harvesting water would impact on agriculture and water management policy In Barbados.
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Bush Tea July 30, 2015 at 4:36 PM #
She may be correct about the $5M.
The needed ‘up-front’ payments nowadays ain’t easy hear?
How do you think the mothers of MPs accumulate $3M in their personal accounts?
…and multiple moms were involved here weren’t they…?
Bushie
You were obviously have not seen the video “Cahill Energy proposed Waste to Energy is a Waste of Time #1 NOT BARBADOS! at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnTkkGGLo3g
When asked the question “Did Cahill make any contribution to the Government body that approved this facility (or political contribution)?”, Clare Clown said “Absolutely Not – We gave absolutely nothing to the Government”
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the powerbrokers of barbados with their mighty white wings might be flying high at present believing their are beating the loudest drum anyhow the bajan with the most concern on having their energy cost slashed would support the govt efforts on this plant those are the silent voices who as yet to be heard and who will be part of the final yea of the WTE plant.This one sided affair of angry noise coming from the other side would be crushed like an ant
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@ DD
How did she respond to the question …
“What contributions were made to any politician’s Mother’s Union”
OF COURSE she made no contributions to any ‘government body’.
You want The Auditor General to spill the beans or what…?
Think Trotman easy nuh….!!
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Al Jazeera tonight carried the story of angry local lawmakers and residents of Maui protesting a multinational trade agreement which they deemed “secretive,immoral and unconstitutional”.The protest was noisy with the use of conch shells and other noisemaking devices and took place on the beach of the Westin hotel and Spa where the Trans-Pacific Partnership/Maui talks described as controversial and complicated is taking place.
Msnbc All-in with Chris Hayes tonight carried a story of Donald Trump’s unpopularity in Scotland with the locals strongly objecting to his development of some beach front property.Trump is accused of being heavy handed in his public relations with the Scots,not to mention the unrealized promise of 5000 jobs some five years ago and which has turned out to be about 200.Hayes was quick to point out he is making similar promises in his presidential campaign and he thought Americans would be interested in knowing.
Maybe one of these networks might help shed some more light on the unanswered questions about the Cahill WTE project in Barbados
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There still could be a book deal out there similar to donald trump …the art of the eel,…….slippery when wet or drunk
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@Enuff, you have brought up again a pivotal point- and seemingly overlooked one – with your comment ” Estwick now plans to do “reearch” after MoUs done sign!!!… how a project that requires the change of use of acres of agriculture land …would impact on agriculture and water management policy In Barbados.”
Caswell, previously pointed out that he wanted justification of how key rules of project tender and related processes were circumvented to reach a singed MOU with Cahill.
And here you reminding us that the entire cabinet of Barbados sat and listened to four of our esteemed ministers speak on the merits of this project and ‘approved’ the MOU and NOW one of those cabinet members comes to the public and speaks of doing research.
Was Donville also not a part of the cabinet discussions on the project?
Or is it that this major project was never discussed at Cabinet?
How could government make an agreement to buy energy to on-sell to our electricity grid unless there is an implicit ‘meeting of minds’ between the Ministry and BL&P/Elmera?
At least Donald Trump tells you straight up that honesty is for chumps…well he said that in one of his books before he was a politician. He also said back then : “You always want to put the best foot forward.” And, “I didn’t confirm or deny…as a politician would say.”
Donville, Estwick and the rest obviously follow that mandate: do not confirm or deny and always get that smile on with best foot forward.
Steeeupse. These people really consider us a bunch of blasted jackasses to so boldly assault our commonsense. But then again we let them do this over and over!
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@David, oh lawd as Dr Connectt said in the video attack the messenger or another lovely tactic is to refer to other projects tainted with corruption. These two have been used extensively by DLP critics.
Of course the fact that there are Latin phrases that describe this form of response tells us how damn old that strategy is.
Don’t these folks realize that if the strategy is so frigging old that anyone with a little grey matter understand their desperation!
Pathetic.
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@Dee Word
It is old but it works, for a while anyway.
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Yes David, it surely does. As Pieces said recently in one of his post, ‘same shiiite, different day’.
So when we make references to the time of Julius Ceasar and Cicero and ting and those Romans before and after them that puts us in the realm of “malum quo communius eo peius” or ‘same damn shiiite, different century”. Smile.
In fact that Latin phrase is translated as “the more common an evil is, the worse it is”.
That I suggest captures our political market place perfectly!
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You would think that with all the “noise” as the PM would call it being generated around this project that one of these rouge ministers would come out and say something.
After MAM’s revelation in the budget debate, her public meeting, the fiasco Cahill meeting, the Future Trust’s meetings and all the debate here on BU…….one would think that this government whom the people elected (not me) would come down from Mt Olympus and speak to the people. But no, they do not give a damn.
We need to take careful note of what the parasite ac posted:
“This one sided affair of angry noise coming from the other side would be crushed like an ant”………………….
So coming from a DLP pimp, does this means that they intend to “crack heads and shoot some people” if Barbadians protest?
I tell you these dems are desperate and desperate people do desperate things………do not take this “crushed like an ant” comment lightly! These ac comments come right out of George Street!
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Bush Tea July 30, 2015 at 9:11 PM #
@ DD
“How did she respond to the question …
“What contributions were made to any politician’s Mother’s Union”
I think the moderator skipped over that question in her stack of paper.
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Would some body please tell the Dr
the population of Barbados is over two hundred thousandpeople many of whose voices have not been heard on the WTE .He therefore not take for grantedthat the few voices that have been vocally opposed to the plant speaks for the entire population
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ac
not many voices were heard when 6 millions Jews were gased by Hitler.
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Professor Connett has made wanna-be Dr Lowe look like a child.
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@ Guy Fox
Professor Connett has made wanna-be Dr Lowe look like a child
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
a “child” ….. you mean a “baby jackass
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This cockie maniacal assumption that a few voices of unhappy opposition would have the final say is tatical error founded out of self gratification and illusion .In a democracy the majority has the last word and so far going by the few thousands who have had there say so that constitutes a minority
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Thine hignorance knows no bounds.
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On the business of “transparency” going forward giving bits and pieces of a project that entails various decision would be a tactical error by the govt.transparency means giving factual and truthful information disposed and related to govt by those with the knowledge and skill after much research and findings. There is this accusing voice of expectation wanting for findings on this project to be revealed by govt in lieu of the fact a project of this type needs to be fully and completely assessed before final conclusion is passed on to govt to be accepted or denied by govt who must (then)tell the populace their conclusion
The noise of garbage that has been emitted by those in opposition to the WTE plant sends a red flag indicative of a political foul stench in the air
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ac
The GOB has signed irrevocable agreements for implementation of the project for purchasing of all of the electrify generated therefrom. The rogue minister did that successfully.
They cannot share the actually agreements with the public because they know the people will convulse over the perversity of the arrangement.
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So we have yard fowls defending the lack of transparency of the Cahill project and at the same time minister Donville Inniss admitted at the BCCI luncheon this week the government should make the documents public.
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Because Donville and David E were probably the only two with sufficient balls to tell the PM and Cabinet it was doing shite validating rogue minister’s actions without the actually agreements being put before the members of Cabinet for their sight, albeit there was little they could do at that stage given the binding nature of the agreements.
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I listened carefully to what Lennie St Hill said at one of the meetings.There are a number of laws which the Govt must follow before this WTE can see the light of day.
Secondly,for the information of AC once again,this govt is a de facto minority govt with only 31% electoral support so stop talking about minority and majority.Only the DLP!
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A blast from the past
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Ac also agree that a project of this type should be given full transparency but only when all the facts are conclusive and not given in bits and pieces drawn on a line of suspicious half truth and retractions which will place govt in a verbal line of criticisms
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ac
produce the agreements, thats all the transparency needed on the Cahill matter.
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Perhaps you should blame Cowan for information “given in bits and pieces drawn on the line of suspicious half truth.” The performance of Cowan and her panelist at the meeting, would obviously raise anyone’s suspicious.
However, the government is just as guilty for not addressing concerns raised about this project, since they failed (as promised), to “take Barbadians into their confidence and explaining to them what they (government) has been doing on their behalf.”
Remember, on page 47 of its 2008 election manifesto, the DLP promised Barbadians the following:
Under a DLP government, the people will be kept informed of what the government is doing on their behalf through:
• Regular press briefings following meetings of the Cabinet of Barbados
• Press briefings by Ministries/Departments to inform Barbadians of major developments and changes
• The publication of details of agreements and contracts involving the government and its agencies
• Formal Ministerial statements at regular intervals on the progress of ongoing programmes and projects
So far, there has not been any response from the minister or any other official from the Ministry of the Environment, about what transpired at the LESCS meeting.
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There is no need for govt to step into a political land mine to pacify a few knowing full well their objectives are built around flaming fires
. Decisions dealing with matters that involved an entire population must be adjudicated and well thought out with focusing on the entire population and not given by an advocacy of coercion
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She has no marals this crazy bitch
She struts around our hotels like she owns the place
Where is our justice minister
They should all be charged with fraud.
Foxy lady on July 31, 2015 at 4:25 AM
This woman hasn’t worked in industry ever in her life
Having watched and listened to her drone on on u tube and the nation
It’s clear she absorbs information well but then regurgitates it incorrectly
It’s obvious she has never worked outside an office environment and most certainly never in process or heavy industries
How in gods name can she mascarade as the ceo of a waste to energy designer/ builder
This is her only chance to make millions and go back to what ever she was doing before seventh heaven property introduced her to the hapless gang of 4.
Surely we must stop this madness.
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Due Diligence July 31, 2015 at 11:39 AM #
“A blast from the past…..”
DD, I have always been saying it seems as though politicians often forget what they say and hope that we, the electorate, don’t remember what they say either.
The video you posted is a perfect example. Ironically, what Lowe said at this meeting could be juxtaposed to our present situation in Barbados.
As it relates to Liz Thompson and saying she “was pronounced dead in Barbados and re-emerged with her hair falling out,” perhaps if Lowe could have seen what was in store for him in the future, he probably would not have made those comments.
Obviously, the DLP supporters assigned to BU will inform Lowe of this video, and hopefully, after watching it, he would reflect with sadness that December 30, 2010, he was admitted to the Medical Intensive Care Unit of the QEH, in serious condition, apparently suffering from respiratory problems.
Perhaps those in the audience that laughed at Lowe’s description of Thompson’s illness would have deemed it offensive, if others had behaved in a similar manner towards Lowe’s condition, while asking for sympathy on his part.
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@Guy Fox
If the agreement has an irrevocable clause it must be contingent on the EIA being improved. The PM can work his magic with Cummins.
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@AC
Its good to see Donville is writing as one of the ACs today , can you say who will be Candidate for the St. James Central in the coming general election ,or if a person can call on you in the mean time
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Forgetfulness seems to embrace the party supporters as well.
We had the consortium, in their July 29, 2015 post at 5:59 PM, saying “Well the word out is that the only thing that can stop this project is an act of GOD or the EPA…..”
They have been implying that those individuals, who raised concerns about transparency and mentioning government seemingly wanting to force WTE plant on Barbadians, are being unpatriotic and politically motivated.
Yet, the consortium mentioned “Decisions dealing with matters that involved an entire population must be adjudicated and well thought out with focusing on the entire population and not given by an advocacy of coercion…”
This is EXACTLY WHAT BARBADIANS HAVE BEEN ASKING OF THE DLP BEFORE THEY EMBARK UPON COMMENCING THE PROJECT, and by the AC consortium were labeling them as being political, negative and unpatriotic.
They are a DLP hypocrite.
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What is noteworthy about this Arthur fellow who calls the talk show daily to defend the indefensible is that his name begins with a.
@Artax
There are exceptions to every ruleð
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Decisions Yet, the consortium mentioned “Decisions dealing with matters that involved an entire population must be adjudicated and well thought out with focusing on the entire population and not given by an advocacy of coercion…”
Oh boy applying one thoughts to any comment can be foolish and immature especially when taken out of context and taking away from the contents that it should be applied
The above comment is meant to be a continuum of comments which i made about transparency and the many actions involved with the WTE before govt can speak with certainty , Apparantly their are two different horses attached to the same wagon on this issue a horse of a different breed with a transparent attack on govt,
the other horse who has remained silent and not perturbed by the braying and stomping of its partner
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Where did these four rogue Minister meet this SLEAZE BAG of a Woman? Who was responsible for introducing her to them? Just looking at the video she hasn’t a clue. How can this bunch of IDIOTS manage to impress the Barbados Government and con them into building a 700M WTE plant? Lawd was it white puss dat turn dem heads? Don’t they have any pride at all? Some things are best left untouched.
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yuh need to hush island gal you could not wait to have some one armed bandits to con govt into buying into Red jet ,never heard a word or talk about transparency coming from you and same noise makers .nevertheless knuckle heads like you were first in line to buy into some type of manufactured bogus cheap tickets plan from the airline
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islandgal246 July 31, 2015 at 7:17 PM #
“Some things are best left untouched.”
Including that white puss.
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Artaxerxes,
Did you hear the Stinkliar today in a request from Bajan Reporter to answer questions on Cahill say…………..let the fish gather………..people going on partial information etc……….plus a lot of lies!
Islandgal, I asked the same question on a thread here………how did these rogue ministers meet this con woman. The answer maybe….they were looking for one!
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ac July 31, 2015 at 7:28 PM #
yuh need to hush island gal you could not wait to have some one armed bandits to con govt into buying into Red jet ,never heard a word or talk about transparency coming from you and same noise makers .nevertheless knuckle heads like you were first in line to buy into some type of manufactured bogus cheap tickets plan from the airline
AC you have a serious problem in recalling things. I never heard of Red Jet asking government to purchase shares as far as I know they wanted the some of the same subsidies they give to airlines coming into Barbados. I never bought a ticket to fly on Redjet. You are such a pile of cat shit!
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wuh dam island gal uh husband ain.t guh uh none last nite, bozie ain,t my fault
wuh uh was one dem flying the flag fuh dee one arm bandit red jet looking forward to buying the bogus cheap tickets and not questioning the concessions they were supposed to /or got , girl dont mek me lafff ..HA! HA! guh long wid yuh long mout and dont bother muh spirit so early in the morning heifer i uh know uh must be angry as sh,iite this mornong waiting fuh that itch to be serviced ole heifer gih lond do ,,,steupse
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Listen to me PIECE of SHIT because you does let yuh husband go up yur back door that doesn’t mean that everyone is doing it! Yuh rass hole too lose this morning! CORK IT!
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Ha!Ha! What a jerk RoflmfaoHA HA
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Why do some of you allow yourselves to be pulled into the gutter where some people are comfortable? It is so easy to ignore if you are focused.
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I nominate ac to write the next DLP manifesto.
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For your information speckled fowl David BU ac don’t go knocking at anybody door bear that in mind when yuh scalliwag friends come knocking at ac door to throw dutti water
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Avoid the loud and the aggressive, they only distress the soul.
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Why can’t you people focus on proper reasoning and behave yourselves and behave like educated adults as you claim to be. I am not for or against CAHILL WASTE TO ENERGY because I do not know enough about THEM AND THE WORKS. I AM AGAINST ALL OF THE FREENESS THAT IS ON THE TABLE FOR THE COMPANY AND DEFINITELY NO IMPORTATION OF OTHER PEOPLE’S GARBAGE,IF THAT IS TO BE SO. THEN I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE BEST TO EXPORT OUR GARBAGE TO ONE OF THE OTHER ISLANDS WHERE THE COMPANY CAN GET PERMISSION TO SET UP THE BUSINESS AND LET US IN BEAUTIFUL BARBADOS CONTINUE TO ENJOY GOOD FRESH AIR AND HEALTHY LONG LIVES. AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS ALL ABOUT THEM MAKING MONEY. THE POLITICIANS AND THE COMPANIES THAT WANT TO SET UP HERE.
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