2015 Barbados Budget Reply…
Has Mia Mottley, Opposition Leader
It is the turn today (16/06/2015) of the Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley to reply to the 2015 Financial Statement and Budgetary Proposals. BU has little doubt the four hour period allotted will be used to poke holes in many of the proposals the minister of finance delivered yesterday. […] One wonders why in a 2×3 country we allow adversarial politics to to get in the way of commonsense – key players appear not to see the value in collaborating and therefore avoid the charade and grandstanding we will be be subjected to for the next two days. This is the weakness in our system of government.
Could it be the leader of the opposition will surprise us all and instead of engaging in the predicable, use her four hours on the public stage to deliver a message that will resonate and give hope to Barbadians?
There is a vacuum of leadership on the political and other fronts in Barbados, will somebody please stand up?
Barbados Underground 
“Why blame a man from academia who died in 1950 for the region’s current problems?
Why not Keynes or Marx or Smith or colonialism or slavery”
I think the businessman as a businessman who would have been secretly courted by Barrowism on one side of the mouth and vilified in public on the other would know the aspect of Laskism of which he speaks. It is no secret that Mr Barrow cursed white business in public to embolden his myth as a champion of the undergo but dealt with them in secret since he was not oblivious to the fact that private enterprise was necessary for his job creation exercise.
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HA! HA! HA! documents flying, and the accuser Mam too shame to show face in Parliament,, today’s serving was duck soup served with onion broth tell dem lowe , boy ooh boy this woman MAM is dangeroussssss
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We listened carefully to Lowe’s emotional rant, he did not explain why he is driving a vehicle registered to Transtech, he did not explain the timelines how the MOU came to be signed. He did not explain many things arising from MAM’s exposition. Lowe needs to discuss with taxpayers the finer details about this proposed WTE plant. Barbados belongs to us as well.
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@Pacha
Arthur was very loud and anti Mia and the BLP from his seat on the government side. What a farce we are witnessing.
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Better still he needs to say why David Thompson moved him from the ministry he had after a few months and whether or not he deposited millions of dollars into his mother’s account!
Tell us that Low man.
Degrees can be so photo shopped, the unsuspecting eye would not know the difference. If the university he has this doctorate from does not offer a doctorate programme, how was he awarded this doctorate?
One of my children had to get the certificate of accreditation. We rushed the university to get the actual degree even before the graduation date and although the child had the degree to show, my child had to contact the university to get them to send the transcripts directly to the Accreditation Council!
So until we can see a transcript from the university, I still would not believe he has a doctorate.
His performance was pathetic……..at that coming after the pious ramblings from Ronald Jones!
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Why has MAM absented herself from the House today?
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Lowe now pulled a fast one lmao
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@David,
In a no confidence motion who do you think Arthur will support ?
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Arthur was in the house? I listened as I could not watch the dems!
Arthur cannot talk, does anyone remember his vicious wrap ups? Even I thought he went over board some times!
I saw nothing wrong in Mia’s exposing the criminal behaviour of these ministers……..she clearly rattled them!
Hopes she stays away from them now…….she has to know that these dems are nasty operators!
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HA! HA! LOLwe down and dirty that is how MIA was described … What a big fat hypocrite … cant stand the heat , so today run far from the kitchen,,,
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i think i heard some one saying that she was trying to buy her certification on the internet,,HA! HA! boy licks like peas heading MIA way, this is the beginning and end as she would be exposed as the liar and fraud she is ,,
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@Hants June 17, 2015 at 7:56 AM ““She also questioned the price tag on two low income projects which she said were constructed at $540 per square foot at a total cost of over $20 million each to Government. What does the $540. include? It surely can’t be just the cost of construction of buildings.”
A friend is building now and buying her supplies retail. She estimates the cost of building (not including the land) will be $150 to $200 per square foot. This is middle income housing.
I do not understand why low income housing would cost three times as much to build, and why officials of the Ministry of Housing/National Housing Corporation/Ministry of Finance? would sign off on such a thing.
Surely the government has its own engineers, architects, and especially quantity surveyors to review projects before saying say to contractors.
Nobody except a government agency would pay $540 per square foot to build.
If somebody pointed a $540 per square foot contract at me I’d ask them to stuff it where the sun don’t shine.
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what i heard from Dennis Lowe was nothing short of amazing. He is that watery dog shit. He the same man who was knocking at death door when his mother open it and walk in. He who claims on this night to be a man of God. a walking black lip piece of dog shit.
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@Hants
Arthur is anti Mia.
All of social media is abuzz about Cahill, the public is searching for satisfactory answers.
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@Simple Simon ”I do not understand why low income housing would cost three times as much to build”
”Consultancy fees’.
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”David June 17, 2015 at 5:41 PM # Curious to know if the sweet drink and cellphone taxes are meant to be punitive or drive behavioral change. To reinforce the point made by Artax.”
Er…simply to collect money, which the Govt is short of….
The economy is benefiting from the 2015 tourist season windfall, not any improved structural design.
As Bush Tea explained already.
Reality is that Govt is still dealing with a fiscal deficit and have realised that the mIddle class brek…. have to get money from somewhere, easiest is cellphone and soft drinks.
As for the Cahill crap, the PM needs to do an about face and work the legal angle to prove that the Ministers acted ultra vires in signing an MOU.
Additionally, ensure that the Environmental Impact Study concludes that the plant will be an environmental disaster, that should give grounds to extricate from any expected contract.
Ensure that the EIS is conducted by a Barbadian firm / engineer.
Simply do not give any work permit to any foreign national to do the EIS.
Government has not obligation to let any foreign national to have a work permit.
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If (I am not saying there is, just saying if), there is proven to be any falsehood by whomever represented / sold the plasma plant to Government, and funds are / were paid to said individuals via US Banks, surely any inconsistencies will be investigated and addressed similarly to how the FIFIA matters were investigated?
Supposing….not saying there were, but supposing, inconsistencies, will the US AG be involved in the Cahill plant if there were any inconsistencies in the whole presentation of the plant?
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We have been watching, from time to time, but not listening to some of the speeches by the MPs. We are depending on our ability to interpret body language. The experts in this area have found that that language communicates much more than mere words.
In addition, we cannot bear to subject ourselves to this long winded circus.
However, from our unscientific readings we will have to conclude that there is a high incidence of obfuscation, out right lies, latent criminal activity, structured attempts to mislead, self interests paramountcy, greed, ignorance and forced contributions to a useless process which nobody takes very seriously.
The body language of Dennis Lowe in particular, would have convinced us, as jurors, beyond reasonable doubt, to find him guilty of criminal activity. Based solely on body language!
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@Crusoe June 17, 2015 at 7:49 PM “Consultancy fees’.
No.
Tax payers money.
My money.
I don’t like it.
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Mia may be right with her criticisms but I am not convinced that the Valerie development is as bad as she portrays.
$150 – 200/sf might get you a single storey house but it wouldn’t touch a high rise building because there is an on-cost for building high.
Multi-storey buildings have reinforced concrete columns, lift shafts and upper floors, lifts, pumps to get water to the upper levels, access staircases, water, drainage and electrical vertical distribution, fire resistant doors to the stairs etc.
The building is apparently 72 units. At $23.7 million, that’s $330,000 a unit which doesn’t sound too bad to me for a high-rise unit. If Mia is correct with her reported $540/sf, it makes a unit 610sf, which sounds about right for a small apartment.
The question for me is whether Valerie was bid in competition and in accordance with the procurement rules. If it was and PreConco / Jada won it, then all things being equal, the price should be right. If they were awarded the contract without a tender, then we are probably paying more than we should be.
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Dr Lowe December 12, 2007
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Steupsss …so sick of this shit….
ASHAMED to be a Bajan….. Even physical brass bowls are not this dumb.
@ Pachamama,
When a flock of sheep invites a pack of wolves into their pen there can only be one outcome….
What outcome…?
That the wolves die from consuming excess shiite?
Normal sheep are NOT that dumb. Only REALLY stupid goats and Bajans are known to deliberately seek out low(e)-life wolves to come into their Paradise pen and feed to their heart’s content.
What amazing stupidity!!!
ONLY A CURSE FROM ON HIGH can explain the level to which we have sunk….
It is NOT surprising that we have been afflicted with such a cures…. we have huge piles of shiite all over the damn place…
Parliament full…
The Courts full..
The Public service full ….and smelling
The Church is one big roll..
Our business people are the soft watery kind…
The University is just a big fart
…no damn wonder we are falling head over heels to throw hundreds of millions of dollars into sewerage treatment…and the pockets of foreign opportunists…and mother’s accounts..
Those people up in Canada must have a running joke about how easy it is to come down here and become instant millionaires…
The Banks…
Emera…
The Plasma people…
Lawson…
Hants….
Money B…
…all those $#@&^ up there holding their bellies and ‘deading’ with laugh at our sorry goat asses….
..and if, God forbid, any of them should get to hear our parliamentarians ‘debating’ our budget …you can be sure of increased interest by them in ‘investing’ here…..
Wuh after all, these are some REALLY dumb-ass goats in that Parliamentary pen….with the authority to spend BILLIONS of our hard-earned taxes every year….
They are goats ….so Bajans have to be brass bowl bush,,,,,,
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
Boston tea party
The Tea Party was the culmination of a resistance movement throughout British America against the Tea Act, which had been passed by the British Parliament in 1773. Colonists objected to the Tea Act because they believed that it violated their rights as Englishmen to “No taxation without representation,” that is, be taxed only by their own elected representatives and not by a British parliament in which they were not represented..The British government responded harshly and the episode escalated into the American Revolution.
We elcted our guys, BUT are they still representing OUR interests?
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Bushie.
Treat them as I do West Indies cricket. Check in periodically for the bad news. It is too embarrassing to watch our so-called cricketers “play cricket” and it is equally embarrassing to listen to our so-called representatives “debate the budget”.
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OSA was masterful. Made the most sense, so far!
We have said before that he understands these economies better than most, we repeat that claim.
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interesting from owen. I agree that the outcome will depend on implementation of the growth initiatives.
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Owen sent the Dems into epileptic shock and now Estwick piss parading and dropping word pon Sinckler.
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Stuart fah real doh stupesss
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Look and listen to him and weep for Barbados
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Read about the ist 17 pages of that mofo speech and was dun.
“Man often becomes what he believes himself to be. If I keep on
saying to myself that I cannot do a certain thing, it is possible that I may end by
really becoming incapable of doing it. On the
contrary, if I have the belief that I
can do it, I shall surely acquire the capacity to do it even if I may not have it at
the beginning.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
So true of this mofo Sin……. He became what he believed himself to be. He kept on saying to himself he couldn’t do a certain thing like being a tiefing, lying, traitorous scumbag, then on the contrary he had the belief that he could be a tiefing, lying douchebag, ‘YES I CAN’ and he surely did acquire the capacity to be so even if he fooled himself into believing that he did not have it at the beginning.
And to quote Ghandi another nasty, vile despicable character who’s constantly held up as some freedom fighter is excellent company for that DLP lot.
The Minister of finance has securely planted the country’s well-being in the future, when he will definitely reap the sweets of their hard labour.
The problem with Bajans in general i.e about 70% is that they are some of the most ignorant motherfuckers on god’s earth and when confronted about their ignorance they become embarRASSingly arrogant. I don’t know if its the size of the island, the education system, the rum or the coral in the water, but these are some of the pettiest, most easy-to-bamboozle baboons in human form pretending to be intelligent. No sophistication of the world around them whatsoever. (may Karma forgive me if this isn’t true).
How in god’s name that after the death of Thompson and these Bitch-Ass-Niggas aka the DLP gained sympathy from a simple-minded public, that they get to hold governance again after all the shite they did in the first 4 years. Fat Pension? Retirement Benefits? Wow, maybe I would sell my mudda fa such a nice cushion on de other end too.
All those stats he gloated about regarding the economy should be challenged for validity and accuracy because he’s fluffing.
The mofo talked about the ‘strong growth prospects in the US.’ What the shite is he talking about? The only strong growth prospects for the US is stealing more money from its citizens and more gold from sovereign, democratic nations and the trafficking in heroine from the field of Afghanistan. Is this what you are pegging the Barbados economy to and talking about the dollar being safe? Mr. Finance Minister do you really understand world economy and why China is ‘cooling’ hers?..BTW who wrote that speech for you huh, man-up and tell us?
Are strong prospects in the US economy the reason behind this administration signing that FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act) for the FAT CATS to imbibe their putrid bowels on, yes Pachamama, FATCA. This agreement would let the dogs loose on overseas Bajans who after paying taxes in the US, and having sent their savings back home (allowing the gov’t to make use of their little foreign exchange) would be further subjected to more taxes if deemed so by the stinking blood-sucking US Treasury. This is the same FATCA that these parasites used to close down certain Cyprus Bank Accounts because the Russians were dumping the useless US Treasury Bonds for some stone cold gold. Not only is this bitch-ass lot taxing the life out of the local Bajans but they’re also willing to sell out those who also contribute to that economy from abroad while protecting the filthy rich business class with little or no taxation…when they can afford to pay same. Mr. Minista the world is dumping the bloody US Treasury bonds…so much for strong US economic prospects. The investors are moving to the East.
But have no fear and be proud to know that you as Bajans are in an honourable class worldwide i.e the class of sheep, ripe for the fleece. PS..in the Chinese calendar this is the year of the Sheep..
This whole taxation on the working people but NOT the corp. is a worldwide scam perpetrated by the Banksters and that International Mother-Fucker aka the IMF. These arseholes don’t answer to the people they answer to the ‘jewish’ slave masters whose main thrust now is to engulf this whole planet. Fleecing is the name of the game. The little tradesman MUST fork over taxes as a citizen but these stinking corporations can move from country to country freely without paying a damn cent in taxes. Give me a good reason why these mofos shouldn’t be Guy Fawked.
The minister was further proud to demonstrate that he had installed power monitors and15000 CLF bulbs all in accordance with the UN GEF . Mr minista where were these bulbs installed and are you aware as you should be, that these bulbs are toxic and shouldn’t be given to your worst enemy. Did you or anyone in your Science and Health department do the research on such? Bajan pls don’t put these in ur houses. You’d be better off using a sut-lamp.
And as for that Cahill waste plant on an island 167 sq miles..please don’t allow this to happen. Such a plant will totally fuck up the Barbados environment. Think about the water shortage and the air and water pollution because shit will be burning. And furthermore they will be importing garbage as well? Who’s to say that they won’t import nuclear waste? I know Barbados is a monkey-see-monkey-do society, but must we also add a dumping ground as well for the world’s waste? Is this what we are about to become? Did these Canadian mofos operate such a plant elsewhere or is Barbados their guinea pig? Did any of the MPs who signed on to this shite-agreement take the time to actually visit a plant and spend time there to see the operations and the side-effects? The island is too small to carry so much shite..literally? These Cahill people are some fly-by-night opportunist. Why don’t they go back to their homeland and set up this shit. Barbados does not need this plant nor the shitty little amount of energy that it purports to supply. Should shit hit the fan Barbados can revert to the good old days when many people did NOT have electricity.
Its so hard to believe that this lot could be so fucking stupid and ignorant. These mofo are worst than hurricane Janet. Why is it so difficult for Barbados to develop a solar energy program throughout the island? Everyday there’s sunlight. You boast about how smart and educated your people are yet you can’t find the funds to teach the children about solar energy usage and installation? I’m sure the Chinese could teach them the ins and outs for 1/2 of what these white blood-suckers would exact.
Why de hell do they need some bogus plasma gasification? All you have to do is add the word TECHNOLOGY to any term and you can truly impress the simple minds of silly folk.
NO TO PLASMA GASIFICATION in little Barbados. It stinks. To hell with these white, toxifying looters who are just looking to make more money and more money only at the expense of the Bajans.
And don’t think for one minute that the animal cares about the health of the poor people by instituting a sugar-soda tax. He is just following orders. A bunch of fucking buffoons. They don’t have a clue about their responsibilities. Blasted jackasses.
Enough of this shite for now.
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but look wha political debates come to in Barbados doh
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Even with all the pissy performances from politicians, Bushie has to say that this budget debate has been the absolute worse spectacle imaginable ….for allegedly grown, intelligent people.
shiite man….
a bunch of classless, thieving, imbeciles….
No wonder they are friends of Parris….
But even so…the MoF has BY FAR outdone himself in coming across as a low-life slime ball…
…and the PM as a woosie
We all knew that Mia is bent …THAT is why we dumped the BLP…
Now we know why the DLP has reneged on a clear DEFINITE PROMISE to enact integrity legislation within 100 days…..they are all the same….
No class
No morals
No intelligence
No justice
No transparency
….DEFINITELY NO CLASS…..
slime…..
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White man walks into a black church in Charleston, Carolina and blows away nine negroes. The very same people we Bajans welcome with open hands as tourists and business stakeholders.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33179019
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Somebody above, we think Balance, urgues that OSA was never a real BLPite. That case is difficult to sustain. It presupposes that being a BLP or DLP member is somehow genetic or that once one joins a party that action is irrevocable. Balance is obviously a purist. He’s also tribalist of the highest order!
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“OSA was masterful. Made the most sense, so far!
We have said before that he understands these economies better than most, we repeat that claim.”
There is no doubt about that; but as a political strategist he surely has lost his way.
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@Bush Tea
The closing by Sinckler last night was an embarrassment we have to agree.
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come on david. he answered the questions on preconco well, as well as cahill to some extent. OSA cannot be like a child and get peeved because his advice is not followed to the letter by the government. Debt restructuring like virtually any other economic policy has pros and cons. Barbados has never defaulted on its debt. a debt restructuring is a default event, an orderly default but a default nonetheless. the reputational dammage can be siginficant and must be weighed against any benefits.
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@businessman
He might have answered for you.
What is the value in referring to all the old projects the BLP? Isn’t this why the BLP was booted out?
On 18 June 2015 at 10:24, Barbados Underground wrote:
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Despite the “artificial” emotional preamble of his autobiography, Denis Lowe FAILED to address the fundamental issues of the allegations Mottley levied against him.
1) The particulars relative to CAHILL
2) Who owns the vehicle he drives
3) If there is a conflict of interest
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I am not referring to old projects.
For one, I am referring to the responses on preconco. Official documents showed a significantly lower per sq foot price. i had no evidence to contradict mam, i have none to contradict sinckler, and mam did not question what he said. the funds were paid to the bank or else the state would have been in default and preconco was then paid from the bank. again mam did not question the statement.
the Transport minister’s evidence on the extent of purchases from transtech was not refuted either.
I have major reservations about the waste to energy plant, but again mam did not rebut his explanations. I guess i will wait until sunday night.
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based on what has been presented so far mam lost badly on preconco. cahill is much closer between the two of them.
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Please continue discussion HERE.
https://barbadosunderground.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/mia-mottley-accuses-government-ministers-of-entering-shady-arrangement-with-cahill-energy-and-trans-tech-inc/
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This is the opportune moment for the information relative to Denis Lowe’s millions stashed in his mother’s bank account should come to the fore.
Could you imagine this man bragging he went to Bible college, and behaved the way he did last night in parliament?
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