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Submitted by Ras Jahaziel

Fun and entertainment addiction is a computer chip that is placed in the psyche of every slave on the plantation via a continuous counter-intelligence operation that is performed by The Walt Disney Nation.Any possibility of The Negro regaining his African intelligence is countered by this counter-intelligence program.

Because of this chip, when the slave reaches adulthood, he is easily integrated into any of the many branches of The Devilโ€™s army.That is why the task of freeing the Black mind has proven to be so difficult. Trying to separate the slave from his bondage is like trying to separate a person from the thing that he loves with the uttermost addiction.

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  1. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ GP
    ….NOw dont take me too serious. I am not very intelligent.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    well said!
    …there may be some hope for you yet…. ๐Ÿ™‚

    WRT the trinity….
    Bushie recalls that last time we discussed this topic, both you and Zoe disappeared from the blog after Bushie asked wunna to explain what happened to the “Trinity” when Jesus was dead…. did it become a “Temporary Duality”? …..LOL, Ha Ha

    Zoe started with some shiite about how “Jesus did not really die”…. but he seem to have had second thoughts about going down that ridiculous line…

    Boss…
    You may be a Latin and Greek boss, but if you think that this qualifies you as someone who understands BBE, then perhaps you should re-read the verses YOU posted above at 10:21am…. using simple English…..

    @ Donna
    …you say you are an ‘Anglican’…???
    Ha Ha Ha …what the hell is that? ..
    ..you mean the church that a horny King started so he could get a divorce?
    ..you mean the eldest daughter of the Catholic church?

    steupsss…. thought we were on to something here….

  2. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    seed picker you are a real fool

    RE I am not very intelligent.
    this is sarcasm mocking you ya jack ass ! i JUST QUOTING YOU

    go and read THIESSENS SYSTEMATIC THEOLOGY OR EVANS GREAT DOCTRINES OF THE BIBLE OR CHAFFERS SYSTEMATIC THEOLOGY and see all the verses about the Trinity laid out

    re Bushie asked wunna to explain what happened to the โ€œTrinityโ€ when Jesus was deadโ€ฆ. did it become a โ€œTemporary Dualityโ€?

    THATS A STUPID QUESTION POSED BY A DEMON! NOT WORTHY OF A DISCUSSION
    THATS A QUESTION OF A FOOL PROFESSING HIMSELF TO BE WISE AND DEMONSTRATING HIS IGNORANCE

    YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT KNOW THAT THERE ARE EVANGELICAL ANGLICANS

    THE ANGLICAN AND RC CHURCH ARE OFFSHOOTS OF THE TRUE CHURCH EXEMPLIFIED BY THE CHURCH OF EPHESUS IN REVELATION 2

    THERE ARE SOME GREAT ANGLICAN THEOLOGIANS_____LIKE THE BARCLAYS and others

    GREAT WESLEYIAN?METHODIST SCHOLARS LIKE CHARLES WESLEY

    who are the great arian scholars ?

    what has the arian church done for Barbados?

    compare this with what the Anglican church did for Education in Barbados especially under Bishops Parry and Coleridge

    you mock and scoff and talk woffle but since you can not rightly divide th Word you can not support your rubbish by Scripture

    the best you can do is SEED PICK !

  3. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    The doctrine of the Trinity is foundational to the Christian faith. It is crucial for properly understanding what God is like, how He relates to us, and how we should relate to Him. But it also raises many difficult questions. How can God be both one and three? Is the Trinity a contradiction? If Jesus is God, why do the Gospels record instances where He prayed to God?

    While we cannot fully understand everything about the Trinity (or anything else), it is possible to answer questions like these and come to a solid grasp of what it means for God to be three in one.

    What Does it Mean That God is a Trinity?
    The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons โ€” the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God.

    The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons. The Bible speaks of the Father as God (Philippians 1:2), Jesus as God (Titus 2:13), and the Holy Spirit as God (Acts 5:3โ€“4). Are these just three different ways of looking at God, or simply ways of referring to three different roles that God plays?

    The answer must be no, because the Bible also indicates that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons. For example, since the Father sent the Son into the world (John 3:16), He cannot be the same person as the Son. Likewise, after the Son returned to the Father (John 16:10), the Father and the Son sent the Holy Spirit into the world (John 14:26; Acts 2:33). Therefore, the Holy Spirit must be distinct from the Father and the Son.

    In the baptism of Jesus, we see the Father speaking from heaven and the Spirit descending from heaven in the form of a dove as Jesus comes out of the water (Mark 1:10โ€“11). In John 1:1 it is affirmed that Jesus is God and, at the same time, that He was โ€œwith God,โ€ thereby indicating that Jesus is a distinct Person from God the Father (cf. also 1:18). And in John 16:13โ€“15 we see that although there is a close unity between them all, the Holy Spirit is also distinct from the Father and the Son.

    The fact that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons means, in other words, that the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not the Father. Jesus is God, but He is not the Father or the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God, but He is not the Son or the Father. They are different Persons, not three different ways of looking at God.

    The personhood of each member of the Trinity means that each Person has a distinct center of consciousness. Thus, they relate to each other personally โ€” the Father regards Himself as โ€œIโ€ while He regards the Son and Holy Spirit as โ€œYou.โ€ Likewise the Son regards Himself as โ€œI,โ€ but the Father and the Holy Spirit as โ€œYou.โ€

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    Georgie Porgie

    Sometimes the Personhood of the Father and Son is appreciated, but the Personhood of the Holy Spirit is neglected. Sometimes the Spirit is treated more like a โ€œforceโ€ than a Person. But the Holy Spirit is not an it, but a He (see John 14:26; 16:7โ€“15; Acts 8:16). The fact that the Holy Spirit is a Person, not an impersonal force (like gravity), is also shown by the fact that He speaks (Hebrews 3:7), reasons (Acts 15:28), thinks and understands (1 Corinthians 2:10โ€“11), wills (1 Corinthians 12:11), feels (Ephesians 4:30), and gives personal fellowship (2 Corinthians 13:14). These are all qualities of personhood. In addition to these texts, the others we mentioned above make clear that the Personhood of the Holy Spirit is distinct from the Personhood of the Son and the Father. They are three real persons, not three roles God plays.

    Another serious error people have made is to think that the Father became the Son, who then became the Holy Spirit. Contrary to this, the passages we have seen imply that God always was and always will be three Persons. There was never a time when one of the Persons of the Godhead did not exist. They are all eternal.

    While the three members of the Trinity are distinct, this does not mean that any is inferior to the other. Instead, they are all identical in attributes. They are equal in power, love, mercy, justice, holiness, knowledge, and all other qualities.

    Each Person is fully God. If God is three Persons, does this mean that each Person is โ€œone-thirdโ€ of God? Does the Trinity mean that God is divided into three parts?

    The Trinity does not divide God into three parts. The Bible is clear that all three Persons are each one hundred percent God. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all fully God. For example, it says of Christ that โ€œin Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily formโ€ (Colossians 2:9). We should not think of God as like a โ€œpieโ€ cut into three pieces, each piece representing a Person. This would make each Person less than fully God and thus not God at all. Rather, โ€œthe being of each Person is equal to the whole being of God.โ€[1] The divine essence is not something that is divided between the three persons, but is fully in all three persons without being divided into โ€œparts.โ€

    Thus, the Son is not one-third of the being of God, He is all of the being of God. The Father is not one-third of the being of God, He is all of the being of God. And likewise with the Holy Spirit. Thus, as Wayne Grudem writes, โ€œWhen we speak of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit together we are not speaking of any greater being than when we speak of the Father alone, the Son alone, or the Holy Spirit alone.โ€[2]

    There is only one God. If each Person of the Trinity is distinct and yet fully God, then should we conclude that there is more than one God? Obviously we cannot, for Scripture is clear that there is only one God: โ€œThere is no other God besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me. Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no otherโ€ (Isaiah 45:21โ€“22; see also Isaiah 44:6โ€“8; Exodus 15:11; Deuteronomy 4:35; 6:4โ€“5; 32:39; 1 Samuel 2:2; 1 Kings 8:60).

    Having seen that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, that they are each fully God, and that there is nonetheless only one God, we must conclude that all three Persons are the same God. In other words, there is one God who exists as three distinct Persons.

    If there is one passage which most clearly brings all of this together, it is Matthew 28:19: โ€œGo therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.โ€ First, notice that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinguished as distinct Persons. We baptize into the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Second, notice that each Person must be deity because they are all placed on the same level. In fact, would Jesus have us baptize in the name of a mere creature? Surely not. Therefore each of the Persons into whose name we are to be baptized must be deity. Third, notice that although the three divine Persons are distinct, we are baptized into their name (singular), not names (plural). The three Persons are distinct, yet only constitute one name. This can only be if they share one essence.

    Is the Trinity Contradictory?
    This leads us to investigate more closely a very helpful definition of the Trinity which I mentioned earlier: God is one in essence, but three in Person. This formulation can show us why there are not three Gods, and why the Trinity is not a contradiction.

    In order for something to be contradictory, it must violate the law of noncontradiction. This law states that A cannot be both A (what it is) and non-A (what it is not) at the same time and in the same relationship. In other words, you have contradicted yourself if you affirm and deny the same statement. For example, if I say that the moon is made entirely of cheese but then also say that the moon is not made entirely of cheese, I have contradicted myself.

    Other statements may at first seem contradictory but are really not. Theologian R.C. Sproul cites as an example Dickensโ€™s famous line, โ€œIt was the best of times, it was the worst of times.โ€ Obviously this is a contradiction if Dickens means that it was the best of times in the same way that it was the worst of times. But he avoids contradiction with this statement because he means that in one sense it was the best of times, but in another sense it was the worst of times.

    Carrying this concept over to the Trinity, it is not a contradiction for God to be both three and one because He is not three and one in the same way. He is three in a different way than He is one. Thus, we are not speaking with a forked tongue โ€” we are not saying that God is one and then denying that He is one by saying that He is three. This is very important: God is one and three at the same time, but not in the same way.

    How is God one? He is one in essence. How is God three? He is three in Person. Essence and person are not the same thing. God is one in a certain way (essence) and three in a different way (person). Since God is one in a different way than He is three, the Trinity is not a contradiction. There would only be a contradiction if we said that God is three in the same way that He is one.

    So a closer look at the fact that God is one in essence but three in person has helped to show why the Trinity is not a contradiction. But how does it show us why there is only one God instead of three? It is very simple: All three Persons are one God because, as we saw above, they are all the same essence. Essence means the same thing as โ€œbeing.โ€ Thus, since God is only one essence, He is only one being, not three. This should make it clear why it is so important to understand that all three Persons are the same essence. For if we deny this, we have denied Godโ€™s unity and affirmed that there is more than one being of God (i.e., that there is more than one God).

    What we have seen so far provides a good basic understanding of the Trinity. But it is possible to go deeper. If we can understand more precisely what is meant by essence and person, how these two terms differ, and how they relate, we will then have a more complete understanding of the Trinity.

    Essence and Person
    Essence. What does essence mean? As I said earlier, it means the same thing as being. Godโ€™s essence is His being. To be even more precise, essence is what you are. At the risk of sounding too physical, essence can be understood as the โ€œstuffโ€ that you โ€œconsist of.โ€ Of course we are speaking by analogy here, for we cannot understand this in a physical way about God. โ€œGod is spiritโ€ (John 4:24). Further, we clearly should not think of God as โ€œconsisting ofโ€ anything other than divinity. The โ€œsubstanceโ€ of God is God, not a bunch of โ€œingredientsโ€ that taken together yield deity.

    Person. In regards to the Trinity, we use the term โ€œPersonโ€ differently than we generally use it in everyday life. Therefore it is often difficult to have a concrete definition of Person as we use it in regards to the Trinity. What we do not mean by Person is an โ€œindependent individualโ€ in the sense that both I and another human are separate, independent individuals who can exist apart from one another.

    What we do mean by Person is something that regards himself as โ€œIโ€ and others as โ€“You.โ€ So the Father, for example, is a different Person from the Son because He regards the Son as a โ€œYou,โ€ even though He regards Himself as โ€œI.โ€ Thus, in regards to the Trinity, we can say that โ€œPersonโ€ means a distinct subject which regards Himself as an โ€œIโ€ and the other two as a โ€œYou.โ€ These distinct subjects are not a division within the being of God, but โ€œa form of personal existence other than a difference in being.โ€[3]

    How do they relate? The relationship between essence and Person, then, is as follows. Within Godโ€™s one, undivided being is an โ€œunfoldingโ€ into three personal distinctions. These personal distinctions are modes of existence within the divine being, but are not divisions of the divine being. They are personal forms of existence other than a difference in being. The late theologian Herman Bavinck has stated something very helpful at this point: โ€œThe persons are modes of existence within the being; accordingly, the Persons differ among themselves as the one mode of existence differs from the other, and โ€” using a common illustration โ€” as the open palm differs from a closed fist.โ€[4]

    Because each of these โ€œforms of existenceโ€ are relational (and thus are Persons), they are each a distinct center of consciousness, with each center of consciousness regarding Himself as โ€œIโ€ and the others as โ€œYou.โ€ Nonetheless, these three Persons all โ€œconsist ofโ€ the same โ€œstuffโ€ (that is, the same โ€œwhat,โ€ or essence). As theologian and apologist Norman Geisler has explained it, while essence is what you are, person is who you are. So God is one โ€œwhatโ€ but three โ€œwhoโ€™s.โ€

    The divine essence is thus not something that exists โ€œaboveโ€ or โ€œseparate fromโ€ the three Persons, but the divine essence is the being of the three Persons. Neither should we think of the Persons as being defined by attributes added on to the being of God. Wayne Grudem explains:

    But if each person is fully God and has all of Godโ€™s being, then we also should not think that the personal distinctions are any kind of additional attributes added on to the being of God. . . . Rather, each person of the Trinity has all of the attributes of God, and no one Person has any attributes that are not possessed by the others. On the other hand, we must say that the Persons are real, that they are not just different ways of looking at the one being of God . . . the only way it seems possible to do this is to say that the distinction between the persons is not a difference of โ€˜beingโ€™ but a difference of โ€˜relationships.โ€™ This is something far removed from our human experience, where every different human โ€˜personโ€™ is a different being as well. Somehow Godโ€™s being is so much greater than ours that within his one undivided being there can be an unfolding into interpersonal relationships, so that there can be three distinct persons.[5]

  5. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    What is the basis for our belief in the Trinity?

    There is but one True God – Isaiah 44:6; James 2:19, etc.
    There are 3 Persons that the Bible reveals to be True God (i.e. God by nature). We are therefore driven to the conclusion that God is a Trinity. It is not something that we have dragged in from Paganism or the Roman Catholic Church as some who attack our Church like to suggest. The Trinity is a Biblical doctrine and we believe it and teach it because this is so. We are compelled by Scripture to accept that the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all God but there is only One God by nature.
    The Father

    No one disputes that He is God so we will not investigate His credentials further.
    Jesus

    Jesus is identified as God in both the Old and New Testaments: See Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1; 20:28; Romans 9:5; Titus 2:13, 14; Hebrews 1:8; Philippians 2:6, etc.
    Jesus claimed the Divine Name “I AM” which Yahweh used when He revealed Himself to Moses at the burning bush: John 8:58 compare Exodus 3:14.
    In Jesus dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily: Colossians 2:9.
    Jesus is “The Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End” – Revelation 22:13 compare Isaiah 44:6; 48:12.
    Jesus shares the glory of God: John 17:5; Matthew 16:27 compare Isaiah 42:8; 48:11.
    Jesus is the Creator: Yahweh says He made everything by Himself – Isaiah 44:24. The New Testament states clearly that Jesus was the Creator and that He made everything for Himself – Colossians 1:16; John 1:3; Hebrews 1:10. Quite clearly Jesus is Yahweh God.
    Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords: Revelation 17:14; 19:16 compare Deuteronomy 10:17 and 1 Timothy 6:15.
    Jesus is Eternal: Hebrews 7:3; Micah 5:2 compare Psalm 90:2; 93:2.
    Jesus accepts worship: Worship is for God only – Exodus 34:14; Matthew 4:10; Acts 10:25, 26; Revelation 19:10; 22:8, 9. Jesus accepted worship – Matthew 28:9; Luke 24:50-52; Hebrews 1:6. To “call upon the name” is related to worship – Genesis 4:26; 12:8; Psalm 116:17; 79:6; Jeremiah 10:25; Zephaniah 3:9; Joel 2:32. This phrase used with reference to Jesus – Romans 10:13; Acts 9:14; 9:20, 21; 1 Corinthians 1:2; Acts 22:16; 2 Timothy 2:22.
    Jesus hears prayers: Acts 1:24; 7:59, 60; 2 Corinthians 12:8, 9; John 14:14; Revelation 22:20.
    Jesus is Omnipresent (Everywhere present at the same time): Matthew 18:20; 28:20.
    Jesus reveals God to us: John 1:18; 14:9; Colossians 1:15; Hebrews 1:3. No mere man can reveal God – only God visible could reveal the invisible God. Jesus was both God and man – John 1:1, 14.
    A comparison of some NT and OT passages showing that Jesus is Yahweh.
    Hebrews 1:8-12 with Psalm 102:24-27
    John 12:36-41 with Isaiah 6:1-3, 10
    1 Peter 3:14, 15 with Isaiah 8:12, 13.
    Jesus is ” he who searches hearts and minds ” – Revelation 2:23. “you (Yahweh) alone know the hearts of all men” – 1 Kings 8:39, see also Psalm 7:9.
    First fruits were offered to God but in Revelation 14:4 they are spoken of as offered to God and the Lamb.
    Saved people will be priests of God and of the Lamb: Revelation 20:6.
    Some, influenced by people such as “Jehovah’s Witnesses,” have been led to believe that the New Testament reveals that Jesus was less than the Father by nature. A close look at the texts concerned reveals that Jesus was less in position not nature. We must not fail to notice that the Trinity is revealed to us in the context of the plan of redemption (covering the whole Bible). Jesus accepted a subordinate position to the Father as the Messiah. The above evidence clearly shows that He was not less than the Father by nature. (His Divinity was veiled while He was a man – He did use it on occasions – but never for His personal comfort or purposes).

    The Holy Spirit is a Person

    We do not learn much of His personality in the Old Testament, however, revelation is progressive (Romans 16:25, 26; Ephesians 3:5, 6) and the Old Testament also leaves us in doubt as to the nature of “the Word” (e.g. Psalm 33:6) but the New Testament makes it quite clear that He is a Person and is in fact God – John 1:1-3, etc. We cannot understand much about the personality and nature of the Holy Spirit for He is far different to us. However, the following references insist upon His personality.

    He performs personal actions in association with other persons: Matthew 28:19; Acts 15:28; Revelation 22:17 – NB The Holy Spirit is a separate person from the Father and Jesus – Matthew 28:19 etc.

    He takes the place of Jesus: John 14:16. Could an impersonal force take the place of the Divine Jesus on earth? The Greek word translated “Comforter,” “Helper,” or similar here is parakletos. This New Testament Greek word is never applied to other than persons.
    In John chapters 14- 16 Jesus many times over deliberately broke the rules of Greek Grammar and referred to the Holy Spirit as ” He, ” ” Him, ” etc. Noted Theologians such as Leon Morris and J. I. Packer have pointed this out.

    He exhibits qualities which evidence personal existence: Mind – Romans 8:27; 1 Corinthians 2:10, Will – 1 Corinthians 12:11, Foreknowledge – John 16:13, He speaks – Acts 1:16, Commands and Forbids – Acts 8:29; 11:12; 13:2, 4; (In these verses just mentions He refers to Himself as “me” and “I.”) 16:6, 7; 10:19, 20, Appoints – Acts 20:28, Vexed and Grieved – Isaiah 63:10; Ephesians 4:30, Works Miracles – Acts 2:4; 8:39, Can be insulted – Hebrews 10:29, Blasphemed – Mark 3:29, Loves us – Romans 15:30.
    The Holy Spirit is God Go to top

    Most, even those who deny the personality of the Holy Spirit, will admit that He is God in some way.
    He is clearly referred to as God: Acts 5:3, 4. Compare 1 Corinthians 3:16, 17 with 6:19 and also 2 Corinthians 6:16. Compare 1 Corinthians 12:11 with 12:28.
    The Holy Spirit is Yahweh: Compare:
    Jeremiah 31:33, 34 with Hebrews 10:15-17.
    Psalm 95:7-11 with Hebrews 3:7-11.
    Isaiah 6:9, 10 with Acts 28:25-28.
    2 Samuel 23:2 with 2 Samuel 23:3.
    The Holy Spirit is Eternal: Hebrews 9:14.

    Because the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all the One God in Triunity (Trinity), what one does has the value of them all doing it. When the Holy Spirit comes to us it is the same as the Father coming to us, or of Jesus coming to us, or of the whole Three coming to us. The Holy Spirit is sometimes referred to as the Spirit of Christ – Romans 8:9, 10; Galatians 4:6; Philippians 1:19, etc. Luke 21:15 says Jesus will tell His followers what to say in time of trouble while Mark 13:11 says it is the Holy Spirit Who will do this. This is where some dissidents have become confused. They think that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same Person or that the Holy Spirit is some force that comes from Jesus and the Father. The truth is that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same God – not the same Person. Remember the baptismal formula of Matthew 28:19, 20 where they are spoken of as separate Persons.

    John 14:18 tells that Jesus will come to His followers – Verse 23 says that both the Father and the Son will make their abode with believers. Verse 26 indicates that this will be through the Holy Spirit – see also verse 28 first part. There is no need for confusion – there are Three Persons all working in perfect harmony as One God.

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    Georgie Porgie

    A person who claims the doctrine of the Trinity is false because the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture is as foolish as someone who claims 3ยฝ inches, or, say, 5ยผ centimeters do not exist because his ruler only shows whole numbers. The doctrine of the Trinity is presented in Scripture clearly enough for spiritual people to recognize, and solidly enough for unspiritual people to stumble over.

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    Georgie Porgie

    HERE THE LOGIC OF A CHILD WHO CAN JUST TRY TO MOCK

    RE @ Donna
    โ€ฆyou say you are an โ€˜Anglicanโ€™โ€ฆ???
    Ha Ha Ha โ€ฆwhat the hell is that? ..
    ..you mean the church that a horny King started so he could get a divorce?
    ..you mean the eldest daughter of the Catholic church?

    steupsssโ€ฆ. thought we were on to something hereโ€ฆ.

    BECAUSE THE ANGLICAN CHURCH BEGAN BECAUSE “a horny King started so he could get a divorce” IIT HAS NO VALUE?

    BECAUSE THE ANGLICAN CHURCH IS ” the eldest daughter of the Catholic church” IT HAS NO VALUE?

    WAS NOT ALL THIS PREDICTED IN REVELATION IN THE SEVEN REPRESENTATIVE CHURCHES? HAS IT NOT HAPPENED AS PREDICTED INCLUDING THE CULTS THAT ARE ARIAN IN ORIGIN?

    Ephesus represents the Apostolic & the (post Apostolic Church) (A.D. 33 to A.D. 100). —Revelation 2:1-7
    Smyrna represents the church of the martyrs ( the persecuted church)(A.D. 100 to A.D. 313). —Revelation 2:8-11
    Pergamos represents the period of paยญgan Rome (the patronized or state church) (A.D. 313 to A.D. 590). –Revelation 2:12-17
    Thyatira repยญresents papal Rome of the dark ages to the 16th century (the Papal church) (A.D. 590 to A.D. 1517). –Revelation 2:18-29
    Sardis is the church of the Renaissance and the Reformation- the Protestant church) (A.D. 1517 to A.D. 1792).– Revelation 3:1-6

    Philadephia (the practical church) is the missionary church of the revival of the 19th century (A.D. 1792 to A.D. 1914).– Revelation 3:7-13

    Laodicea (the present day church)is the end time apostate church (A.D. 1914 to the second coming of Christ). –Revelation 3:14-22

    AND ANOTHER OUTLINE ON THE PREDICTED AND ACTUAL HISTORY OF THE CHURCH AGE

    Ephesus sets before us FUNDAMENTALISM
    It was the FORMAL CHURCH
    Smyrna had a problem with RITUALISM
    It was the FEARFUL CHURCH
    Pergamos had a problem with CLERICALISM
    It was the FALTERING CHURCH
    Thyatira had a problem with SACERDOTALISM
    It was the FALSE CHURCH
    Sardis had a problem with LIBERALISM
    It was the FRUITLESS CHURCH
    Philadephia existence of REVIVALISM
    It was the FEEBLE CHURCH
    Laodicea has the problem of MATERIALISM
    Itโ€™s the FASHIONABLE CHURCH

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    Georgie Porgie

    HERE ARE SOME ARTICLES ON THE TRINITY WORTH CONSIDERING

    DONT TAKE THE WORD OF A SEED PICKER ON THE TRINITY

    GOD HAS PROVIDED TRUE TEACHERS OF THE WORD THROUGH THE AGES IN EVERY COUNTRY TO TAKE THE WORD OF A JOHHNY COME LATELY SEED PICKER WHO CAN ONLY MOCK AND SCOFF LIKE A PISSY LITTLE CHILD

    HE PRESENTS NO
    1 SCRIPTURE
    2 SEQUENCE
    3 SUBSTANCE
    4 STRUCTURE
    SCRIPTURE
    TO SUPPORT ANY OF THE BOVINE EXCREMENT HE SPEWS

    Christian The Biblical Basis of the Doctrine of the Trinity An outline study by Robert Bowman
    Christian The Biblical Doctrine of the Trinityoffsite by Benjamin B. Warfield
    Christian Brief Description of the Trinityoffsite by James White, of Alpha and Omega Ministries
    Aberrational, Heretical, Heterodox, Suborthodox or Unorthodox Did Jesus Pray to Himself?offsite (Contra) By J.L. Hall, reasoning from the Oneness Pentacostalism position.
    Christian Early Trinitatian Quotesoffsite
    Aberrational, Heretical, Heterodox, Suborthodox or Unorthodox Elohim and the Plural Passagesoffsite (Contra) Lecture by Daniel Segraves, given at the Symposium on Oneness Pentacostalism (January 11-13, 1996).
    Christian The Eternal Subordination of the Sonoffsite This apologetic against evangelical feminism includes a look at the question of subordination within the Trinity. By Stephen D. Kovach.
    Christian An Explanation of the Trinity for Muslimsoffsite by Gerry Redman. An article on the Muslim-Christian Debate Website
    Christian Four Reasons Why I Believe In The Trinityoffsite by Dr. Ralph F. Wilson
    Christian Ignorant and Unenlightenedoffsite If a concept is nowhere mentioned in the Bible (like “Trinity”), does that mean it’s not a Biblical concept and is therefore false? By Greg Koukl
    Christian Is The Creedal Doctrine of the Trinity Biblical?offsite by Bob Passantino
    Christian Jesus Christ as God and the Trinity Was Not Invented Until the Fourth Century?offsite An article at GodAndScience.org answers claims made in The Da Vinci Code
    Christian John Calvin on the Trinityoffsite Calvin explains the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, and also refutes certain heresies of those who deny the Trinity. Extensive amount of information, from Calvin’s “Institutes of the Christian Religion.”
    Christian Plurality Study: An Examination of number of Persons in the Godhead.offsite Article on the CARM site.
    Christian Rediscovering the Trinityoffsite
    Christian Sharp’s Rule and Antitrinitarian Theologiesoffsite A Bicentennial Defense of Granville Sharp’s Argument for the Deity of Christ. By Robert M. Bowman, Jr. Includes a complete critique of Greg Stafford’s treatment of Sharp’s rule in his book “Jehovah’s Witnesses Defended”.
    Christian Trinity, Definition of Chalcedon, and Oneness Theologyoffsite In-depth article by James White, of Alpha and Omega Ministries.
    Christian The Trinityoffsite A Bible verses chart showing characteristics share by the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit.
    Christian The Trinity is One God – Not Three Godsoffsite By Boethius (c.480 – c.524)
    Christian The Trinity of Godoffsite J. Hampton Keathley III. Can also be downloaded as a Word document.
    Christian The Trinity Seriesoffsite by Dr. Francis J. Beckwith.
    Christian Trinity – Why Is This Doctrine Important? by Jeff Hughes.
    Christian An Unpublished Essay On The Trinityoffsite by Jonathan Edwards
    Christian Why We Should Believe in the Trinityoffsite by Pat Zukeran, of Probe Ministries
    Christian Writing the Trinityoffsite Philip Yancey, on writing with clarity about the Trinity.

  9. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    there are so many good sites on line dealing with the Trinity that over the years I have not wasted my time dealing with this moron who is a best SEED PICKER I HAVE EVER MET

    go online for yourselves or get a proper text from a good book shop that lays ot the DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY

    here are a few sites

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/bowman_robert/trinity/trinity.cfm
    http://bible-truth.org/Trinity.html
    http://jackcottrell.com/notes/the-doctrine-of-the-trinity/

    BEWARE OF THE CULTS

  10. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    …different day …different year….same shiite from GP..

  11. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Bushie, Bushie, Bushie,

    The horny king did not start the Anglican Church. The horny king adopted a church that was already there. He transferred his allegiance from the Roman Catholic Church and it became the state church. A common and much touted misconception which I didn’t expect from you. Sigh….

    I could trade you insult for insult but what would that accomplish?

    Dismissed!

  12. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    You know of course that no one reads that lotta shiite… ๐Ÿ™‚

    Here is something that you said..

    “….What Does it Mean That God is a Trinity?
    The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons โ€” the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person….”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Let us say that this is correct….
    DID ‘the Son’ die? … and was he buried for three days and nights?
    What was the status of the ‘Trinity’ during those three days?
    Or is your use of the word ‘eternal’ not applicable to those three days and nights…?

    …explain this and you won’t need all the other copy and paste shiite you tend to post…
    …and stop getting on like a goat….nobody is impressed…

  13. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    yes โ€ฆdifferent day โ€ฆdifferent year

    AND YET YOU CAN NOT REFUTE ANY OF THE LOGICAL COHERENT PRESENTATIONS PROVIDED WRITTEN BY TRUE SCHOLARS OF THE WORD

    THESE MEN ARE NOT SPERMALOGIANS LIKE YOU

    DIVIDE THE WORD RIGHTLY AND SHOW WHERE THE WELL LAID OUT INFORMATION IS INCORRECT

    NOT BY THE LOGIC OF YOUR CULT

    yes โ€ฆdifferent day โ€ฆdifferent year BECAUSE TRUTH DOES NOT CHANGE EVEN WHEN YOU LEARN IT BY ROTE (mock mock)

  14. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    You know of course that no one reads that lotta shiiteโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ™‚

    MAYBE YOU DONT BUT OTHERS DO WHO DONT POST

    Here is something that you said..

    โ€œโ€ฆ.What Does it Mean That God is a Trinity?
    The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons โ€” the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in personโ€ฆ.โ€
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    HOW COME YOU KNOW ISAID THAT WHEN YOU DID NOT READ IT MR SPERMALOGOS?

    THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY HAS BEEN WELL OUTLINED AGAIN ON BU

    REFUTE WHAT HAS BEEN SAID

    MATCH YOUR IGNORANCE TO THE SOUND REASONING AND STUDY OF TRUE BIBLE STUDENTS AND BIBLE SCHOLARS

    TRUE BIBLE STUDENTS AND BIBLE SCHOLARS DO NOT ENTERTAIN STUPID QUESTIONS FROM SPERMALOGI ……………………………………..SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE STILL TO LEARN

  15. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Donna
    He transferred his allegiance from the Roman Catholic Church and it became the state church….(so that HE could run things?)
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You like you think Bushie born yesterday…
    …or that a few pissy politicians could chase him away from the land of his birth..to languish in the land o’ Bamma… (wink)

    Did you know that six is half-dozen? LOL … ha ha ha
    Yours is a ‘Church’ put together by Henry VIII and Elizabeth I to serve the needs of the British Empire ….
    Need Bushie say more….

  16. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    spermalogos aka seed picker

    DO YOU NOTICE THAT THE REALTHEOLOGIANS AND SINCERE BIBLE STUDENTS?SCHOLARS SUPPORT THIER ASSERTIONS BY GIVING SEVERAL REFERENCES RIGHTLY DIVIDED IN THEIR CONTEXTS?

    THEY CAN DO THIS YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT——–IN SEASON AND OUT OF SEASON

    THEY ARE STUDENTS OF THE WORD NOT SEED PICKERS ah lie?

  17. Kiki Avatar
    Kiki

    Rastaman Going Home
    http://youtu.be/xaCXtYRCkfc

    GP you must get your own thread or TV channel to preach your God book

    “That is why the task of freeing the Black mind has proven to be so difficult. Trying to separate the slave from his bondage is like trying to separate a person from the thing that he loves with the uttermost addiction.”

  18. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    there you go babbling and seed picking again

    re โ€ฆor that a few pissy politicians could chase him away from the land of his birth.. NO ONE CHASED ME FROM THE LAND OF MY BIRTH> I MADE A DECISION TO GO AND TEACH ELSEWHERE

    HERE YOU EXHIBIT REPEATEDLY ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF SATAN__________SLANDERER. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME

    to languish in the land oโ€™ Bammaโ€ฆ (wink) NOT LANGUISHING HERE EITHER

    MAKE GOOD MONEY IN MY FRUIT OF THE LOOMS MONTHLY WID OUT LEAVING MY HOUSE

    re Did you know that six is half-dozen? LOL โ€ฆ ha ha ha
    Yours is a โ€˜Churchโ€™ put together by Henry VIII and Elizabeth I to serve the needs of the British Empire โ€ฆ.
    Need Bushie say moreโ€ฆ YOU HOW YOUR IGNORANCE OF CHURCH HISTORY

    YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE SHALLOW

    DEFEND THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY IF YOU CAN

    TALK SENSIBLY ABOUT CHURCH HISTORY AND THE VALUE OF THE ANGLICAN CHURCH BOTH IN BIM AND ELSEWHERE IF YOU CAN

    YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE PISSY PITHY PUERILE PAEDESTRIAN & PURULENT !!

  19. Exclaimer Avatar
    Exclaimer

    @ Bush Tea,

    When men of the calibre such as yourself and the very reverent GP lock horns in public one has to assume that there must be a female connection.

    That connection is, undoubtedly, the virtuous and chaste English rose called Donna. She and GP are a compatible match made in heaven, hence your mal contentment and the harsh language that you directed at the much loved GP.

    Bush Tea; be happy you still have the BU favourite in your court – Island gal 246. Have a pleasant weekend.

  20. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    LOL
    Good tactic…
    If you don’t know the answer to a question, talk nuff shiite and throw nuff insults…. no one would dare to followup ….. right????

    WRONG!!

    You can get away with that shiite around your half-wit students…
    BUT NOT around stinking Bushie….

    Here are the FACTS…

    The “trinity doctrine” is the single greatest HERESY ever perpetrated by the great whore. It seeks to define God as a CLOSED SHOP of three entities, everlasting and unchangeable.
    This is diametrically OPPOSITE to everything that Jesus EVER said, did, or promised to do…
    Indeed, the WHOLE point of Jesus’ message (gospel) is that he has come so that humans CAN indeed have life eternal …and (EXACTLY as he did,) be born again spiritually into the realm of BBE…..He being the FIRSTBORN (first BEGOTTEN) of many such to follow….

    Along comes some jackass church with an alternate agenda, and establishes an “Apostle’s CREED” which DECREES that God is THREE ONLY…and Always will be…. so “wunna peoples had better try and commit wunna asses to the Anglican church and the British Empire….”

    …and black people fall for that shiite….!!??
    One could understand during slavery man…but after attending HC…?

    BTW
    When did Bushie get upgraded to this status of “seedpicker” bozie?
    …shiite man…hope that promotion don’t cost anything? …cause Bushie was quite happy with the lowly ‘bushman’ status …

  21. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    LOL @ Exclaimer
    Islandgal??
    You mean the one with the 2X4 and the evil spirit..? ha ha ha
    Bushie can deal with the enemies…but the “friends” are the real threat…

    WRT GP and Donna …you may have a point…
    Donna sounds like a good catch yuh….
    If Bushie could just get that Trinity shiite outa her pretty head… ๐Ÿ™‚

    You have a great weekend too….

  22. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    what spermalogos tries to do is mock and attack and get away from the topic by asking stupid questions

    Instead of your stupid question a much more relevant question is WHO RAISED JESUS
    โ€ข Rom. 10:9–God raised Jesus
    โ€ข 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    โ€“ 1 Cor. 6:14–God raised up the Lord
    โ€ข 14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
    โ€“ Gal. 1:1–God raised Jesus
    โ€ข 1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
    โ€ข I THESS 1:10 10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
    โ€ข Heb. 13:20–God brought Jesus back from dead, blood of covenant
    โ€ข 1 Pet. 1:21–God raised Jesus
    โ€ข
    โ€“ Rom. 8:11–Spirit raised Jesus
    โ€ข 1 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.*
    โ€ข 1 Pet. 1:21–God raised Jesus
    โ€ข Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

    Seems to me that the SPIRIT IS GOD AND THUS PART OF THE TRINITY

  23. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    spermalogos writes
    Here are the FACTSโ€ฆ

    The โ€œtrinity doctrineโ€ is the single greatest HERESY ever perpetrated by the great whore. It seeks to define God as a CLOSED SHOP of three entities, everlasting and unchangeable.

    RE This is diametrically OPPOSITE to everything that Jesus EVER said, did, or promised to doโ€ฆ
    Indeed, the WHOLE point of Jesusโ€™ message (gospel) is that he has come so that humans CAN indeed have life eternal โ€ฆand (EXACTLY as he did,) be born again spiritually into the realm of BBEโ€ฆ..He being the FIRSTBORN (first BEGOTTEN) of many such to followโ€ฆ.

    BRING SCRIPTURE TO SHOW THAT THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY IS AT VARIANCE TO ANY TENET OF THE GOSPEL

    BRING THE SCRIPTURES SPERMALOGOS!!

    Along comes some jackass church with an alternate agenda, and establishes an โ€œApostleโ€™s CREEDโ€ which DECREES that God is THREE ONLYโ€ฆand Always will beโ€ฆ. so โ€œwunna peoples had better try and commit wunna asses to the Anglican church and the British Empireโ€ฆ.โ€

    โ€ฆand black people fall for that shiiteโ€ฆ.!!?? WHITE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD BELIEVE IT TOO SO DONT TRY TO PLAY THE RACE CARD

    BRING THE SCRIPTURES SPERMALOGOS!!

    One could understand during slavery manโ€ฆbut after attending HCโ€ฆ?

    THEY TAUGHT THE TRINITY AT HC TOO LOL!

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURES TO BACK UP THE STUPID ARGUMENTS OF SPERMALOGOS

    note BOTH the Apostleโ€™s CREEDโ€ and the Nicene creeds PRECEEDED THE RC CHURCH AND THE ANGLICAN CHURCH

    THEY WERE AGREED AT CHURCH COUNCILS OF THE EARLY CHURCH AS A RESULT OF THE FALSE TEACHING OF THE GNOSIC AND HERETIC ARIUS

    furthermore every phrase of these creeds is SCripturully sound

    NOTE THE SEED PICKER NEVER QUOTES SCRIPTURE TO SUPPORT HIS ARGUMENTS

  24. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    BECAUSE SPERMALOGOS DOES NOT BELIEVE THE TRINITY BECAUSE THE ARIAN CULT THAT HE STARTED TO FOLLOW PROBABLY IN HIS OLD AGE ——HE SAYS THAT THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY WHICH IS WELL & CLEARLY LAYED OUT IN ALL TOPICAL TEXT BOOKS AND SYSTEMATIC THEOLOGIES

    I HAVE NEVER HEARD SUCH RUBBISH AND ILLOGIC ANYWHERE ANYTIME

    SPERMALOGOS SHOULD STICK TO POLITICS AND BRASS BOWLERY AND SEEKING TO PULL DOWN SCHOLARS LIKE ZOE WHO HAS A DOCTORATE IN THEOLOGY

  25. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    NOTE THE SEED PICKER NEVER QUOTES SCRIPTURE TO SUPPORT HIS ARGUMENTS
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Bushie did not come here to drink milk…

    Presumably you quote your human anatomy introduction book to support your medical diagnosis….but normally, professionals mature BEYOND such limitations…Did Paul not call wunna to move from milk to solid food…?

    Why would Bushie need to quote scripture when he knows the author first hand…? Should Bushie not be even able to translate the concepts in modern contemporary terminologies?

    Can you get get someone intelligent to review your responses before posting… ? ๐Ÿ™‚

  26. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    SPERMALOGOS

    YOU NEED TO LOOK UP THE GREEK WORD TRANSLATED ” FIRSTBORN (first BEGOTTEN) ”

    it does not mean what you are saying

    jesus was not BORN AGAIN OUT FROM ABOVE AS YOU ARE SAYING

    go look it up!

    aND THE gospel message was proclaimed throughout the OLD TESTAMENT IN TYPE AND FIGURE before Jesus came c.f HEBREWS 1

    2 Samuel 9 is a good example

    and there is NOTHING called BBE IN ANY VERSION OF ANY BIBLE

  27. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    spermalogos

    another pithy argument like a child

    Re Bushie did not come here to drink milkโ€ฆ

    MAN YOU INDICATE THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE A GOOD DRINK

    TELL US WHAT 1 PETER 2:2 MEan

    AS NEW BORN BABES DESIRE THE SINCERE MILK OF THE WORD THAT YOU MAY GROW THEREBY

    โ€ฆre Did Paul not call wunna to move from milk to solid foodโ€ฆ?

    When Paul made this injunction in Hebrews WERE NOT THE HEBREW BELIEVERS SUPPOSED TO USE THE SAME MILK OF THE WORD THAT PAUL CALLS SOLID FOOD

    WHEN DOES THE MILK OF THE WORD BECOMES SOLID FOOD?

    MUST NOT ALL BELIEVERS STAY ON A DIET OF THE WORD?

    Re
    Why would Bushie need to quote scripture when he knows the author first handโ€ฆ?

    DONT ALL THE THEOLOGIANS AND SERIOUS STUDENTS AND SCHOLARS KNOW THE AUTHOR OF THE WORD TOO?

    WHY IS IT THAT THEY QUOTE SCRIPTURE? IS IT THAT THEY CAN BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT< WHERE TO FIND THE TRUTH. THE SPIRIT NEVER BRINGS OUT THE WORD OF TRUTH FROM A MAN WHO DID NOT TAKE THE TIME TO IMBIBE THE WORD OF TRUTH>

    re Should Bushie not be even able to translate the concepts in modern contemporary terminologies? THIS IS BOVINE EXCREMENT PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!

    Can you get get someone intelligent to review your responses before postingโ€ฆ ? ๐Ÿ™‚

    WHY SHOULD I WHEN ARGUING WITH YOU? YOU DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU ARE EVEN HERE SEED PICKING MR SPERMALOGOS
    ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO PULL DOWN BUT IT WONT WORK

  28. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    here is some solid food Mr SPERMALOGOS

    The Greek word prototokos is translated first-born
    It is from prแน“tos, “first, pre-eminent” and tรญktล, “bring forth”

    It means first in time (Mt 1:25; Lk 2:7); hence,pre-eminent (Col 1:15; Rev 1:5).

    It specifically refers to Christ as the first to experience glorification, i.e. at His resurrection (see Heb 12:23; Rev 1:5).

    For this (and countless other reasons) Jesus is “preeminent” (prลtรณtokos) โ€“ the unequivocal Sovereign over all creation (Col 1:16).

    [ (prลtรณtokos) refers to “the first among others (who follow)” โ€“ as with the preeminent, glorified Christ, the eternal Logos who possessesself-existent life (Jn 5:26).]

    IT HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH BEING BORN AGAIN

    JESUS WAS NEVER BORN AGAIN ——or “out from above”

    YOU DONT LEARN THIS FROM SEEKING ASKING AND KNOCKING

    YOU NEED TO
    Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 TIM 2:15

    THAT IS HOW YOU TAKE IN SOLID FOOD

  29. Kiki Avatar
    Kiki

    DofBU
    Can you set up a BT Vs GP thread like Sports Corner, so they can take their beef outside.
    It can include the soundtrack song Kung Fu Fighting.

  30. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    KIKI
    I HAVE NO BEEF WITH MR SPERMALOGOS BUT I HAVE TO TRY TO FEED HIM SOME OF THE MILK OF THE WORD

  31. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    But GP, you like you is a bigger idiot that Bushie thought yuh…

    You just write a whole heap of shiite bout Greek this and Greek that…and concluded that “first begotten” means “first in time”….
    shiite man… wuh that is what evabody else was always understanding…

    Oh wait…. you wanted to impress the blog that you know where in google to find Greek words right?

    …and Boss, why would you quote something like “AS NEW BORN BABES DESIRE THE SINCERE MILK ….”?

    To prove WHAT???

    You think Bushie is a NEW BORN BABE? …or that you are..? (unless of course you ass getting doltish in yuh old age …as in “once a man twice a child …ha ha ha )

    Stop posting shiite and getting Kiki vex do!!!
    Get someone intelligent (and who can see…) to read before posting…

    BTW Kiki
    Of all the people to complain… yuh mean YOU!!? … the serial poster of music videos… …complaining to King David? LOL
    steupsss…
    Man post something fuh GP do…. something bout smoking some tampee or skanking to some dub or si-ine so… ๐Ÿ™‚

  32. D Ingrunt Word Avatar
    D Ingrunt Word

    Do excuse this illiterate but I was so enthralled by the intellectual and the preacher that I followed the palaver trying and admittedly failing to understand the crux of the argument,

    Of course then I got caught on that word “spermalogos”. Never saw it before but it had such a wonderful wow factor…you know as if the accused so described was a spermatozoa that grew to a mind-altering, defective being.

    Alas, I thus looked it up and here is Dr. GP’s wonderful word-smithed “spermalogos” in some sort of old world perspective:

    ” As they heard Paul preach in the marketplace, they hear about a “god” with whom they were not familiar. In verse 18, the intellectuals call Paul a “spermalogos”, translated in the KJV as a “babbler”. The Greek word “spermalogos” literally means a “bird which picks up seeds”, and in this context means someone who in their travels picks up “seeds of wisdom”. ”

    I thought that captured this palaver quite well. The formidable intellectual pompasetting in haughty manner and completely dismissing any reasonable attempt to get to the core of the discussion.

    And Bushie the preacher displaying with vigor his powerful ‘seeds of wisdom’.

    Aren’t we all too familiar with intellectuals being themselves and losing the essence of the God’s word: humility and peace.

    Amusing but sad really, re men of faith and true Christian ethos but certainly learned some stuff though!

  33. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Bush Tea June 5, 2015 at 7:08 PM #
    You just write a whole heap of shiite bout Greek this and Greek thatโ€ฆand concluded that โ€œfirst begottenโ€ means โ€œfirst in timeโ€โ€ฆ.
    shiite manโ€ฆ wuh that is what evabody else was always understandingโ€ฆ
    YOU ARE A NASTY STINKING LIAR
    YOU DID NOT KNOW THAT THAT IS WHAT IS MEANT>>>>>BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU SAID I YOUR POST
    Where in ordinary ENGLISH DOES โ€œfirst begottenโ€ mean โ€œfirst in timeโ€โ€ฆ.?

    PROTOKOKOS IS USED ONLY FOR AND ABOUT JESUS.
    I WONT SAY I AM THE FIRST BEGOTEN OF MY CPARENTS CHILDREN EVEN THOUGH I AM THE FIRST BORN.

    YOU WANT TO SAY THAT AN APPRECIATION OF THE GREEK IS NONSENSE BUT WE HAVE A TRANSLATTED BIBLE FROM A VERY COMPLEX LANGUAGE
    Oh waitโ€ฆ. you wanted to impress the blog that you know where in google to find Greek words right?
    NO I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF WORD STUDIES
    I DONโ€™T WANT TO IMPRESS THE BLOG BOUT NOTHING

    I IMPRESS FOLK WHO HAVE STUDIED GREEK AND READ THE LITTERATURE WHEN, AND WHEREVER I TEACH
    YOU ARE THE ONLY FOOL I HVE MET THAT DOES NOT UNDERSTAND

    YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE I HAVE MET WHO IS AT VARIANCE WITH ALL THE SCHOLARS THAT I HAVE READ
    Re โ€ฆand Boss, why would you quote something like โ€œAS NEW BORN BABES DESIRE THE SINCERE MILK โ€ฆ.โ€? To prove WHAT???

    BECAUSE THAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH RELEVANT TO THE NONSENSE YOU WROTE
    Ab OUT MILK & SOLID FOOD
    THE QUESTION ISWHEN DOES THE MILK OF THE WORD BECOME THE MEAT OF THE WORD SINCE IT IS THE SAME WORD

    You think Bushie is a NEW BORN BABE? I DONโ€™T KNOW ABOUT YOU EXCEPT THAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW

    BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THE VERSE IS SAYING
    IT IS SAYING THAT BELIEVERS SHOULD DESIRE THE WORD JUST AS NEONATES DO
    R e Get someone intelligent (and who can seeโ€ฆ) to read before postingโ€ฆ

    NOT BECAUSE YOU TRY TO PUT ME DOWN DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU ARE RIGHT
    YOU ARE PICKING SEEDS STILL AND CAN NOT GIVE A PROPER ARGUMENT FOUNDED ON THE WORD OR SUPPORTED BY THE WORD

    YOU SAY YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT BUT I HAVE NOT LISTENED TO ANYONE IN 50 YEARS TALK SO MUCH RUBBISH about the word of God
    ANY ONE WHO KNOWS THE WORD WELL KNOW THAT I AM TALKING SENSE

  34. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    D Ingrunt Word June 5, 2015 at 7:30 PM #

    At least you have the sense to do like the saints in Berea in Acts 17 to check to see if these things are so or not.

    That is a start.

    What is the core of the discussion? Tell me?

  35. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    HOW CAN ONE TEACH OR PREACH WHEN THEY HAVE NOT LEARNED?
    HOW CAN ONE TEACH OR PREACH WHEN THEY HAVE NOT STUDIED AND CAN NOT RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH.

  36. Kiki Avatar
    Kiki

    Georgie

    Porgie

    ….

    There is still an involvement, an emotional attachment with Bushman, stuck in past memory of pain still manifesting itself in the essence of the presence disabling present power of now

    you need to meditate to release past pain and let it go through you

    .

    http://youtu.be/oFbHz1Yah5Y

  37. Kiki Avatar
    Kiki

    African
    Liberation
    Education

    Maybe the Bible Guys could direct their thoughts to Africa in Bible, Original African People

    Gods Favourite People
    Singers and Players of Instruments

    There are no Chosen People that was a misinterpretation misquote of God

  38. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    Serious though GP, you are making a fool of yourself unnecessarily…
    “First begotten” is self explanatory……Greek shiite!!
    Jesus is the “first begotten” of the those coming out of project “life on earth” who have been ‘redeemed’ and born of the spirit, – the condition that Jesus specified to Nicodemus that MUST be met….
    Bushie is the first begotten of his parents….other siblings followed in time…

    …whether you are your parent’s first begotten or not …is your damn business….this is basic language and even more basic common sense…

    LOL
    ….and you are telling bushie what HE knows? …and what HE understood by first begotten?
    shiite man, you like you doltish in truth yuh…

    Now look here…
    AS NEW BORN BABES DESIRE THE SINCERE MILK OF THE WORD THAT YOU MAY GROW THEREBY

    This CLEARLY says “AS NEWBORN BABES (comma) Desire the sincere milk of the word THAT YOU MAY GROW (into adults who no longer drink the damn milk,when there is beer available..)

    How the hell you always talking shiite about Greek and can’t understand English…?

    steupsss..
    ..and Bushie is NOT trying to put you down …but to put you RIGHT….Putting others down is YOUR speciality…. What happened bozie ..it hurts? ha ha ha

    LOL when you say “…I HAVE NOT LISTENED TO ANYONE IN 50 YEARS TALK SO MUCH RUBBISH about the word of God”
    You know of course that this is almost exactly what the Scribes and Pharisees said about Jesus…before they crucified his donkey… ๐Ÿ™

    ..if it comes to that… Bushie don’t need no crown of thorns on his head ..just a full face mask and a four-stroke, double-feed .90 size whacker in the right hand….

  39. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ GP

    I am one who believed in the Trinity, GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON AND GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT.

    I however too have had the same question as Brother Bush Tea NOT BECAUSE I WOULD WISH TO QUERY THAT UNERRING FACT OF THE TRINITY but because it needs reconciliation in the ole man’s head.

    here is why.

    That which is indivisible and which is the Causeless Cause created man and the first Adam falls.

    The Second Adam comes and gives HIs Life for All beings BUT AND HERE IS WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE THE CRUX OF Bush Tea’s query, IF I believe that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, who put off his Divinity to be incarnated or is that born of a woman, and to suffer as man and die on the cross, even the death of the cross, did part of the Trinity DIE, or did man die?

    I think that the point being asked is not a point of Heresy but it is a logical question which you GP and the acolyte Donna need to answer.

    I have always left the reconciliation of the duality of THE SON OF GOD in that instance of DEATH TO THE MYSTERY OF OMNISCIENT GOD IN ITS TRIUNE BEING but because I have beleived that Jesus came as man and suffered as man SO THAT WE MIGHT HAVE LIFE ABUNDANTLY, I do not think that HE “stacked the cards in his favour” ergo His Tears at the Garden of Gethsemane” and His request to the Father to take the “Cup away from HIm”

    Please do not think that mine is a heretical discourse for I, like the BT, am only desirous of one’s take on what, to ignorant eyes and ears, being not fed at the font of wisdom, would wish solely to ask for some direction on this.

    @ Kiki a.k.a Easy Squeeze

    There is no more pertinent place to post this because this article deals with “African Liberation Education” and I, African, am one to have seen manifestations of the constancy of the God of the White Man, in my encounters on this plain, and other “incidences” in other religions that are spectacular, but, like a gambler in a game of Tunk, I am sticking with THIS TRIUNE GOD.

    I give all respect to others on the planet but as for me, and my household, well, I will serve this LIVING GOD and for the Africanists and all the rest, you will say that it is groundless and a brainwashing and all the rest but IT IS THE SOLE ESSENCE IN WHICH I BELIEVE.

  40. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ GP
    HOW CAN ONE TEACH OR PREACH WHEN THEY HAVE NOT LEARNED?
    HOW CAN ONE TEACH OR PREACH WHEN THEY HAVE NOT STUDIED AND CAN NOT RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Are you saying then that Paul was a fraud?
    Where did HE ‘study’…?

    In fact, where did ANY exponents of the actual scriptures ‘study’?
    where did ANY of God’s prophets study?
    steupsss..

    Wunna does ‘study’ in order that ignorant followers will call wunna things like ..
    “Bishop Reverend Doctor Father G. S Porgie. BST, ToNS, BSE” …to pamper wunna vanity….
    Just like Doctor Mascoll studied so that people would stop calling him “Mallet wid teet”… …but he still talking the same shiite as before …. just bigger words… LOL ha ha ha

  41. Kiki Avatar
    Kiki

    Piece

    Jesus was Black before he became white

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/3958241.stm

  42. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Kiki
    thanks for that track, but Bushie was thinking more of something from the boss … …something like “Dennis Brown Best Of Mix”

    “My head is anointed …and my cup runneth over
    surely goodness and mercy shall follow I …all the days of I life…” ๐Ÿ™‚

  43. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    Amazing Grace. Wunna Christians can sing along. lol

  44. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Piece
    Wait Boss …you in here too? Ha Ha

    You can always tell a really learned person by the SIMPLICITY with which they can answer basic questions and explain simple details…
    If you ask a fella to explain a basic point… and he start telling you bout how you would never get it, or start using nuff big words (or Greek) that he hope you don’t understand, then you know that he don’t know either…LOL

    No one has a bigger sense of humour than BBE….
    in designing the world, he deliberately did some things to make those who think that they are wise KNOW IN THEMSELVES that they are fools… Like the effect of the Duck Billed Platypus on evolutionists…. or indeed the chicken and the egg…

    The “Trinity scam” has been used for centuries by the whore church to cement into people’s mind that God is unreachable, fixed, closed.
    Even though Jesus said OVER AND OVER that, like him, others can and will become “Sons of God”, and that he will prepare places for such sons ….can you believe that ‘scholars’ still go around reciting that shiite creed and promoting this ‘Anti-Christ’ message?

    The joke is that by having died for three days and three nights, Jesus put paid to that nonsense about a Trinity….. simple – there could be NO such Trinity when he was dead…..

    When Zoe wakes up he will try promoting plan B…. arguing that Jesus did NOT really die since he was BOTH God AND man …and only the ‘man’ part died…. LOL ha ha ha
    Of course he then run into the dilemma of “denying that Jesus died and was resurrected” …and disappears from BU until things cool down….

    All GP has to do is admit that HE DOES NOT KNOW the answers…. That is no crime…
    wuh shiite… he don’t even understand why Jesus used to bullshit the multitudes following him with parables designed to keep them in the dark….
    …far less why God CREATED the devil and all the demons -even before making mankind….

    Such answers are not divined by exegesis or studying no damn ‘word’….
    ..talking ’bout word..

    @ Dee Ingrunt Word
    Steupss… why did you have to go and expose GP?
    …now Bushie will lose that promotion to “seed picker” and “Spermalogos”……
    Oh well …guess it is back to ‘prof. brass bowl’ and ‘bush sh,te (shotter?)’ ha ha ha

    Wait…GP and AC in one accord…?
    ha ha ha LOL
    Ohhh shirttt

  45. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Bush Tea

    The ole man was going to say so about how GOD, knowing full well the vanity that is man, took fisherfolk to deliver his message to man, so that HIS Majesty could be fulfilled in their simplicity.

    Another thing that I would wish to mention to those of us who would revert to the original language Greek.

    De ole man was fortunate to have had a grandfather who was alive when I was born and who lived to a ripe ole age, back when Methuselah was a lad.

    The priest of the church that he attended used to preach in Latin!! that would at least let part of the secret out of the bag as to the type of church de ole man ancestors did was going to.

    Latin!!

    Now, un-lessing wunna is related to **, he of whom it was said “if he were to wake up in Rome at the time of the Roman Republic, he would speak latin as fluently as any citizen of that time” you would all well appreciate what the “veil” posed to church goers, both white and certainly black, at that time, when all the priests delivered the message of the day IN LATIN!!.

    Enslavement is not only a physical thing but a thing best practiced to steal the minds of people.

    Jesus’ mission was not to have (sole) discourse with the Sanhedrin and the rest of the theosophists but to rent the “veil” so that the common man could have life and “life abundantly”.

    There is much to support being able to understand Greek and the derivatives of words.

    For example, being able to explain how, irrespective of the time that passes, the phrase “the reason why” CANNOT GO TOGETHER is better confirmed if one used the derivative of either word. Notwithstanding that it is the norm on CNN, NBC and even the BBC.

    Equally so one must come to an appreciation that knowledge or understanding is not the sole domain of the academically privileged NOR, unfortunately, a donkey, barring Balaam’s ass, CANNOT converse intelligibly.

    (I did not say Dompey I said donkey)

  46. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ GP

    “Great Pan is Dead”

    While it is not mentioned in the Bible this phrase mentioned by Plutarch, purported has its Genesis in a myth that at the hour of the passing of Jesus the Christ, a cry of, ‘Great Pan is dead,’ swept across the waves in the hearing of a certain mariner Thammus.

    I am humbly inclined to think that Divinity being set aside that Jesus the Son of Man died and while it will attract the cries of heretic from all and sundry, HE took back up Divinity, post such travail.

    I do beleive that He Arose from the dead and as such, TRIUNE GOD, caused THE SON TO QUICKEN FROM THE DEAD.

    Other than that it makes mockery of man’s travail IF THE SON DID NOT DIE.

    Of course then comes the heretical statement “CAN GOD DIE” to which I would (incredibly??) answer no BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT TRIUNE “dissociated” so that the second Adam could come and suffer and die.

    This is why He says, no one cometh to THE FATHER BUT BY ME, and the FATHER SAYS OF THE SON, “This is my Beloved Son, hear ye Him”

    It makes sense to me but then again de ole man ent read deeply in these eschatological, epistemological, existentialist, metaphysical treatises DEM so forgive me for treading where “angels fear to trod”

  47. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    LOL @ Piece
    You could imagine how the Pharisees got on when the “upity fella’ Jesus went and linked up with the cussing, uncouth fishermen {who did not even pass the 11-plus ) and the “Sea cat woman” Mary Magdalene…..and dissed the bigup ‘learned’ scholars of the law?

    Wuh dem fellows was PISSED!!!
    …they used to snoop around behind him asking all kinda foolish questions (trying to trip him up with the Law..) …talking bout how AC should be stoned according to the Law…. ha ha …then not a boy could throw the first stone…

    BTW …you feel that the fishermen used to use the Queen’s English “prim and proper” after they started to follow Jesus…?…or you feel that they used to talk the same brass bowl way as other fishermen…? ๐Ÿ™‚

    Study of the ‘word’ is good ….for showing off your knowledge of shiite languages and fancy verbosity …and to impress the weak minded…. but it is NOT God’s way….

    LOL …if Bushie had learnt the Bible by rote he woulda quote the part where God uses the SIMPLE things of this world to confound the wise and the proud…..
    But they still won’t get it….

  48. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Kiki

  49. D Ingrunt Word Avatar
    D Ingrunt Word

    caveat: I am analyzing this scholarly discourse like one of those barely literate, keen fishermen…no biblical learning just reasonable common-sense.

    So Bushie in that vein I am confounded wid your argument that “The joke is that by having died for three days and three nights, Jesus put paid to that nonsense about a Trinityโ€ฆ.. simple โ€“ there could be NO such Trinity when he was deadโ€ฆ..”.

    Why?

    Pieces also queries it in his post, “IF I believe that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, who put off his Divinity to be incarnated or is that born of a woman, and to suffer as man and die on the cross, even the death of the cross, did part of the Trinity DIE, or did man die?

    I am not asking any highfaluting scholarly question ..very simply gentlemen…what is it that makes the concept of the Holy Trinity so anathema to your Christian dogma due to the physical death of Jesus?

    In simple terms – like a fisherman casting net to catch the fish level of simplicity – the omnipotent Christ and Son and Holy Spirit are one indivisible. The human form of that Spiritual entity ceased to exist as all human forms do at death but clearly the immortal spirit of Jesus Christ was forever alive and at one with God.

    That MUST be so if one believes in the immortal, omniscient Creator. How can the spirit of the Son of God die ?

    If you argue that the physical death dissolved part of God or His power/presence or the concept of the Holy Trinity then why hold on to other constructs of the God thesis that are equally faith based and defy normal logic?

    He is the Son of the Immortal God and his death was symbolic of man’s sins being washed away; not of his Spirit being defeated or dying.

    At least that is the simple non-intellectual, non-scholarly message that I grasp from the story of Christianity.

  50. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ De Word.

    One CANNOT HAVE BOTH STATES, SIMULTANEOUSLY if one is to believe that The Son came and suffered on the Cross for Man’s sin in the garden. (Notwithstanding nothing is impossible with GOD)

    The “duality”of simultaneous existence which you allude to, would present a situation where The Son was with the Father, all of the time, simultaneously, even while, Jesus the Son was travailing on earth those 33 years, and while I repeat that ALL IS POSSIBLE WITH GOD AND nothing exists outside of GOD, I humbly suggest is that it would negate the purpose of the Birth of the Christ Child, if there was a dualist state.

    You would seem to be presenting an situation where, as opposed to an actuality of Death of the CHRIST, that there was now a “symbolism” of Death which borders on the ludicrous as if GOD, with errant angels and errant man, was incapable of resetting the system, AS HE SO CHOSE, through the total sacrifice of THE SON, HIS SON, ERGO THE SON’s UNASSAILABLE PLACE AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD.

    TOTAL OBEDIENCE AND BELIEF IN THE FATHER which, while it would seem outside of the ken of man’s logic’, underscores “THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, HEAR YE HIM.

    When Jesus the Christ thereafter says in John 14:6 “”… I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me…” this speaks to the sole path (for those of us who believe in the Christ) BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID!!.

    I do not know if we truly understand what Genesis 3;24 means when it says “So HE drove out the man; and HE placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life..”

    The link with our Creator was irretrievably broken, by the first Adam, WITHOUT ANY WAY BACK to our FATHER.

    Then one sees in Isaiah 53 the first?? unambiguous mention of the Messiah and in the very words of the prophet a confirmation of the reality of His Death, not any “symbolism”

    “… because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors….”

    Dont understand what symbolism you allude to, Jesus Christ’s death on the Cross was not a David Copperfield disappearing mirrors act.

    We serve (some of us) THE LIVING GOD BY WHOM “.. if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you…”

    But then again de ole man does doan really mind de Pastors and dem prophets who does testify dat David Thompson WILL NOT DIE…

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