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Vote NO to Cable & Wireless Columbus Merger

The Fair Training Commission (FTC) is advising on its website that on the 24 November, 2014 an application was received from Cable & Wireless Communications Plc and Columbus International Inc seeking permission to merge the local subsidiaries (C&W and LIME) in Barbados in accordance with Section 20 (7) of the Fair Competition Act. Pursuant to…

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The Fair Training Commission (FTC) is advising on its website that on the 24 November, 2014 an application was received from Cable & Wireless Communications Plc and Columbus International Inc seeking permission to merge the local subsidiaries (C&W and LIME) in Barbados in accordance with Section 20 (7) of the Fair Competition Act.

Pursuant to its remit the FTC has invited “all service providers, businesses, representatives of consumer groups, non-governmental organisations, residential consumers and all other parties with an interest in this matter, to submit their comments on the merits or demerits of the proposed merge”.

The FTC has attracted strong criticism from the general public because it is perceived as an entity that is pro utilities in its rulings. The public has an opportunity to participate in an online survey under the cloak of anonymity – see survey as well as to share concerns about the proposed merger of LIME and C&W in Barbados.

Barbados Underground is firmly of the view a merger of the two entities will bring monopoly into play, again. Further, it makes a mockery of the decision to deregulate the local market which has allowed Digicel and other players to introduce competition to the local market. We therefore vote NO to the proposed merger.

94 responses to “Vote NO to Cable & Wireless Columbus Merger”

  1. A bit of history Avatar
    A bit of history

    http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20050823/sports/sports1.html

  2. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Your NIS is invested in LIME and I support this merger December 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM
    “LIME’s best option, to realize shareholder value, may be to find an international communications company to acquire LIME in Barbados, allowing Barbadians and the new entrant a fresh start.”

    You are just taking the mickey, right?

    Which “international communications company” would be prepared in today’s ICT environment to acquire LIME in Barbados as a stand-alone profit centre? It’s either the entire East Caribbean (including T&T) or nothing at all doing for the North Americans.
    Cuba ICT market is going to be soon up for grabs. Why waste money on a market that would soon see serious contraction in its consumer spend as access to forex dwindles year by year?

  3. David Avatar
    David

    Karibcable waltzed into Barbados just before the last election and before you could say Jack Robinson it was snapped up by FLOW. Does anyone think this was normal?

  4. David (not BU) Avatar
    David (not BU)

    ” David December 30, 2014 at 9:42 PM #

    @David (not Bu)

    What are you smoking? It must be the low grade stuff. Hold LIME (C&W) accountable? You got to be joking.”

    and there is our problem. We got the keys but have not a clue which door to open. sad really.

  5. Your NIS is invested in LIME and I support this merger Avatar
    Your NIS is invested in LIME and I support this merger

    David, would you object if Columbus had proposed to acquire C&W for cash (i.e. no future C&W participation)?

  6. David Avatar
    David

    To remind you the crux is whether we believe having one supplier with the monopoly on data is good for the market. Unfair protection and consumer laws 101 say no.

  7. Your NIS is invested in LIME and I support this merger Avatar
    Your NIS is invested in LIME and I support this merger

    What is stopping Digicel from competing?

  8. David Avatar
    David

    Is it a perfect market?

  9. David (not BU) Avatar
    David (not BU)

    but wait a minute. what about BL&P, BWA and Massy? are they not monopolies to?

  10. Your NIS is invested in LIME and I support this merger Avatar
    Your NIS is invested in LIME and I support this merger

    If Flow was competing in the area of your concern and found it advantageous to merge with C&W and Digicel is not, is unwilling or is unable to compete in the same area, have you considered the possibility that the market may not be able to carry more than one participant and, if so, a properly regulated single participant may be the answer? Barbados is a small market and I suspect that, with communications technology constantly advancing, requiring significant investment to be current, it may not be able to properly support duplicate investments in the underlying technology?

  11. David Avatar
    David

    @Your NIS is invested in LIME and I support this

    Who should determine what the market can bear?

  12. David Avatar
    David

    @Deeds

    Politics and aspiring to be of the political class is a nasty business. The stuff Teflon is made of.

  13. David Avatar
    David

    NPC has posted a notice in todays press. BU understands this problem of low natural gas delivery should have been detected months ago by the parties involved. The minister responsible needs to make a statement and stop bullshitting Barbadians.

  14. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    David

    The comment by”Dirty People like Politicians” on December 30th at 9:27 pm should be taken down. Some of us have chosen to reveal our identities; that is our choice but people like John Hanson have chosen otherwise and I feel their wishes should be respected. I have worked out the real names behind many of the pseudonyms being used on BU and I have spoken to them privately but would never think to set in motion something like this that is capable of destroying BU.

    By the way, I am still trying to figure out who the Bushman could be.

    >

  15. DeeWord Avatar
    DeeWord

    @Caswell Franklyn December 31, 2014 at 11:25 AM…The comment by”Dirty People like Politicians” on December 30th at 9:27 pm should be taken down”——–

    That is a very perceptive and valid call re that post but what David also needs to recognize re the John Hanson pseudonym is that his/her remarks were bordering on a disconnect with reality and some of them could have been pulled before.

    When do posts stop being reasonable and fair and go into the realm of abuse and flagrant, name-calling, stupid slanderous piffle.

    This John Hanson person has long past that point.

  16. David Avatar
    David

    @DeeWord

    And without pulling the comments what has happened?

    On Wednesday, 31 December 2014, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >

  17. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Caswell
    By the way, I am still trying to figure out who the Bushman could be.
    +++++++++++++++++++
    Why?

    The bushman could be any idiot with a big whacker….
    LOL
    …just start BUP and look to see who is watching your back…..

  18. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Mr. Caswell Franklyn.

    I did not see the comment by Dirty People Like… but judging from your comment (and said posting’s absence) I judge that it was of sufficient concern to be removed.

    There is a seeming “progression” of the affairs of men that I now refer to as “the natural descent into purgatory” where all men, left to their own wiles will, over the years, move further yes deeper into abject sin.

    You remember the times (when we were once young) we used to sneak into a young ting’s house and tek a little bit? Only Miss Headley the village newspaper used to see you sneaking in/out that girl window.

    Fast forward to today Mr. Franklyn and there are actually online Swappers Clubs where that has now become a billion industry and, IN SOME CIRCLES, if you are not a “swinger/swapper”, you are deemed “old fashioned and a prude”.

    The dynamic that runs BU for the majority of us posting here can easily be related to these shifting values as it relates to self, family, community and nation/patriotism

    BU posters, irrespective of whether one is a Buckra Johnnie, coolie, 1st cousin removed from Bin Laden Syrian or nigga, love this cvntry called Bulbados.

    We come and submit some vitriol, diatribes, croneyistic commentary, nepotistic littany, plain madness and some lies because, in many cases (warped and disturbed as we are) we love the little rock that 90% of us will never get a piece of, yet continuously strive for.

    Very few of us when we get into circles with our drinking buddies and say “I would like to kill Lashes, Lowe, Lynch or Stinkliar,” really wants to take a knife and cut his jugular vein or femoral artery for tiefing money AND diverting resources that are for the people.

    Most of us come here, (even 2 of the AC firm) with a genuine hope that our comments and cusswords, our misplaced hopes and prayers can make a difference in our cvntry’s steadily losing battle.

    But like all things, that natural progression i spoke to earlier manifests itself in this fashion.

    The overarching objective behind the BU for improving our cvntry is not part of the rationale of these new bucks and whereas, if you were walking near me and stumped my foot, you will say sorry, this new set will come to burn down your house “cause you dissed me Mr. Franklyn”

    As you said “our alter egos are known to both sets of clowns” but we still post here under the false veil of anonymity, prayerfully hoping that reason will attend these brutish beasts and that some change will come to benefit “these fields and hills that are supposed to be our own.”

    Let us pray Caswell where there comes a point in the history of Bulbados where (i) public dissent on social media is curtailed by despots and inept leaders on the one hand and (ii) the natural progression of descent to the abyss that we are seeing around us, overtakes us.

  19. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    …where there NEVER comes a point … (correction)

  20. DeeWord Avatar
    DeeWord

    @David December 31, 2014 at 12:32 PM ..And without pulling the comments what has happened? —————–

    Oh, absolutely nothing sir.

    The point of course is that after a while his/her remarks really make a mockery of the attempt at reasonable debate on the site.

    There is nothing wrong with divergent views, even comments or commenters that may be termed J-A’s but the same nonsensical rant and calling all sorts of people names. That gets tiresome after a while.

    As I look back on your blog he/she has been on this track for years and by his/her own admission (if true) has spoken to almost every lawyer in Barbados.

    So your blog is his/her psy-couch clearly. Take that with all it brings.

  21. Anthony Avatar
    Anthony

    @ DeeWord

    As I look back on your blog he/she has been on this track for years and by his/her own admission (if true) has spoken to almost every lawyer in Barbados.

    So your blog is his/her psy-couch clearly. Take that with all it brings.

    I support your above comments 100%

  22. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Dee Word and Anthony

    John Hanson aka Plantation Deeds is absolutely dedicated to Violet Beckles’ matter to the exclusion of all else.

    His continuance with the matter shows undoubted resilience in the face of all the odds AND to his credit BU has given him every latitude in airing this matter.

    Much like Compulsive Eating Disorder, or the Pathological Lying Disorder of Minister Stinkliar our Minister of Fine Ants, Hanson will introduce the topic anytime anywhere.

    So as it relates to this matter of Cable and Wireless’ merger you can expect his submission to read that the land where the 60,000 poles that LIME has planted mostly belongs to Violet Beckles. There is always that link

    Once or twice he does introduce some coherent subject matter but, as happens with one of the “AC firm”, once you start reading it and it is Mrs AC, you just stop because she is only going to say one thing “ALL HAIL FUMBLE STUART & HIS BAND OF IDJITS”

    Technically speaking, if we were to examine our own submissions, all of them fall into the same compulsive behaviour to “mouth off” on BU. If you compress the comments of the anti ineptitude crews of the BLP and/or the DLP, you will find that BU is replete with rants.

    Some of us learn to control our particular point and repeated contentions or those subjects which rankle us to the “n th” degree

    The real challenge that we have to tackle going forward is not so much remarking on the idiocy that abounds in high places but moreso how, IN SPITE OF ALL OF THE INFELICITIES, how are we going to ensure that these BLP & DLP NITWITS, (Bush Tea calls them Brass Bowls) don’t destroy our country around us

  23. Anthony Avatar
    Anthony

    @ pieceuhderockyeahright

    Technically speaking, if we were to examine our own submissions, all of them fall into the same compulsive behaviour to “mouth off” on BU. If you compress the comments of the anti ineptitude crews of the BLP and/or the DLP, you will find that BU is replete with rants.

    =================================================================

    I beg to different on the above comment.

    I have never ranted on any blog and since I have never voted do not follow any political party’s false or real ideology/promises.

    Why he may have his reasons for his rants they have gone past the point of being obnoxious.

    If he had a case then the courts whether locally or abroad are there to deal with such matters.

    It took me almost 6 years to deal with a financial matter concerning a very large amount of money, I changed lawyers 3 times and finally got the matter in the high court where UPON ALL EVIDENCE a judge ruled in my favour.

    That is the way things are done; definitely not what I have seen on this blog with the constant name calling.

    This BU or any other blog will not solve the problem if there is one real or perceived.

    The two ladies unfortunately are dead and therefore stand in no way to benefit.

    I looked back at another story on this BU blog in 2013 and it was put forward that 20,000 lots @ $500 per year were promised to people in last year’s election.

    This was not put forward by either DLP or BLP, where would this land come from or to whom would have benefited financially?

    I state the two ladies have passed and if there is an injustice the law court is the place to deal with it.

    However FOR YEARS slinging at Chelteham, other lawyers, COW, Mia, Owen, judges or anyone for that matter will bring no further light at the end of the tunnel.

  24. Anthony Avatar
    Anthony

    BU Article: INDEPENDENTS IN THE 2013 GENERAL ELECTION

    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS February 18, 2013 at 12:23 AM #

    we will rent 20,000 open lots at 500 a year, can now build houses with the true land owners permission,
    We need your votes to get things going

    https://barbadosunderground.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/independents-in-the-2013-general-election/

  25. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Anthony

    Maybe if I had said “rant” instead of rant the context in which I suggested the word would have slipped by softly.

    Not everyone is like you to have persevered 6 years with 3 lawyers through our Court Registrar and then to a High Court.

    Some of us are weak men and women who lack that resilience and the intestinal gonads to keep their head to the grinding stone.

    They may have become sick or old or died along the way and because of the trickery effected by the solicitors and barristers who held the title deeds etc for the real estate, the estate has no record of what is left for them and they are left to such salt.

    Some of them only have the recourse of this public forum to (i) vent their spleen and (ii) hopefully make others aware of what lies out there when you trust dishonest lawyers (indeed a repetition to be sure)

    Not every one is like Al Barack to paint himself white, having exhausted all options at that time, and then chain the entrance to his building, remember that we are from Bulbados where the stock of slaves were not Ashanti or Zulu but more docile tribes

    Let me single out one of the persons in your list Owen Seymour to make the point of “rant” whose definition is in part stated as “To express at length a complaint or negative opinion: “He could rant on the subject of physician-assisted illness” (Paul Theroux).

    If then I should elaborate about that intransitive verb then we logically arrive at a place where, due to the incessant “repeated expressions and vociferations” on the former Prime Minister, such would mean that others here are guilty of “ranting”

    But on the other hand it may be that when some of us type/write our submissions here, because of the brand of the cuntputer that some of us use or because of some state akin to the “Piscatory Ring” some of us are exempt from “ranting”

    Finally I, while I would sit and reason with any person of any calling , and would be civil to any one irrespective of one’s station, am not against using a few cusswords to address a belligerent employee/employer.

    Am I to assume that by your statement “definitely not what I have seen on this blog with the constant name calling…” that you, contrary to the Subversive Psychological Warfare Tactics of more advanced military institutions across this globe, would seek through some superior prescience to suggest that “the constant name calling” is not a strategy too?

    Why even Tzun Tzu speaks of employing such strategy “when confronting an enemy too powerful to engage directly??”

    Social media, used wisely, utilizes principles enshrined in the Art of War, the pen is mightier than the sword, just “pointed words” or is it that as a parallel of your “high court” you would advocate a more direct method comprising 7.62 millimetre projectiles???

  26. David (not BU) Avatar
    David (not BU)

    http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20141231/business/business2.html

  27. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Anthony

    Man give Plantations Deed some slack.
    Not everyone uses the direct approach of the court system – few have the patience and cash to manage the needed lawyers…

    If you think that DEED’S tactics are useless you may be younger than the wisdom of your contributions seem to suggest.

    You ever heard that ….”one – one blow does kill old cow….?”

    A friend once had a dispute that should technically have been resolved by engaging the services of the law, lawyers, police, courts etc….however…
    …after careful consideration (and a few big rocks on the roof of the protagonist), the matter was amicably resolved 🙂

    Deeds just pelting nuff stones pun some roofs…

    LOL … hopefully you are not one of his targets ….
    ……(like Bushie’s good BU friend “?????” LOL hahaha

  28. David (not BU) Avatar
    David (not BU)

    Bushy what brass bowl you talking? Deeds need to come off of it. He has a claim but every blasted person for him is involved. He is watering down his case. You can’t pelt out the baby with the bath water and that is what he is doing, which does nothing to help the case he has. bottom line is he needs to stop labeling everyone with his BS brush.

  29. David (not BU) Avatar
    David (not BU)

    why does he hide behind whatever name he or she wants to called by and make these claims in public?

    the truth is a defense for liable. So come out in public and make the claims and let them come after you. The truth as Deeds believe will set him free and finally expose the corruption he is claiming. Not so?

  30. Anthony Avatar
    Anthony

    @ David (not BU)

    Agree with your comments.

    Use his real identity if he has nothing to hide and deal with the facts not the silly name calling using an alias on any blog.

    @ Bushie

    No one with high intelligence behaves in this abnormal manner and have things resolved in their favour.

    Al Barack use the LEGAL system getting judgement from the High Court, which gives him legal standing for what he has done and proved rightfully what he is owed.

    The court is where this matter needs to be if THERE IS A CASE.

    Also instead of painting everyone in negative light ‘deeds/john hanson’ need to put their own glass house in order.

  31. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ The David gang 🙂

    Fellows, to each his own.

    Bushie would have tried the court, walked up and down Bay Street…naked if need be, pelted some rocks on the roof of Government Headquarters, and done so using the slave name that has been assigned to the Bushman…..

    David (BU) would likely have taken a more rational approach and David(not BU) an even more traditional one……

    …but wunna know what…? 90% of Bajans would not have done one shiite…

    WHICH IS WHY THESE LAWYERS FELT BOLD TO EXECUTE THESE STRANGE ACTIONS WITH THIS WOMAN’S LAND.

    …therefore, when a Bajan – ANY BAJAN – decides to try SOMETHING, …and to persist with it through thick and thin, then Bushie finds it difficult NOT to be sympathetic….

    At the very least, DEEDS has been sensitizing Bajans of the DANGERS that can be faced in trusting lawyers with our valuables…..

    As to the names that he has been dropping, ….are these not all articulate, highly trained, learned and esteemed persons in this community?
    Cat got their mouths…?

    How the hell come we have not heard a word of OUTRAGE and denial coming from any of them (or from their PR people) about these allegations? …not to the rants and obvious vexatious remarks that DEEDS drop (much like Bushie’s Brass bowlery) – BUT from allegations of Land deeds HANDED OVER TO LAWYERS and then disappearing ….only to resurface with modifications or with the properties ‘sold’ to others? ….or questions about the ownership of Kensington and other specific properties….

    Did Caswell not personally look into this and come away convinced that some shiite was amiss?

    Well letmuhtellya….if this all involved Bushie’s family’s property, there would be hell to pay ….and not just from posting on BU either….

    It seems to Bushie that DEEDS has been JUSTIFIABLY pissed off… it is called righteous indignation…..

  32. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Anthony

    Al B may not be a good example to use.

    Name another case that has been able to get through our court system so quickly… and actually get a judgment……

    Either Al B is a big-up lawyer; has access to top boys like Amused and Ross; or perhaps Al B is just a name used by highly influential forces in legal places…..

    But Bushie hardly think that DEEDS could expect similar results…… shiite man, if their land papers got lost what do you think would happen to the sworn statements?

  33. David (not BU) Avatar
    David (not BU)

    oh come of it Bushy.

    The only way to beat and expose what Deeds claim is to make them come after you. you know how thin skin they are but I guess it plays well to come and play games here.

    oh well, happy new year all.

  34. DeeWord Avatar
    DeeWord

    Give praise to the Lord or drink a toast . Greetings of the new Year to the all!

    To David and your team. Much thanks. Your blog has been fun.

    Continued Success in 2015.

    And to all you others with so much time on your hands for all of these rants, raves and deep insights, I say CONTINUE ON APACE with more of the same in 2015.

    One Love!

  35. just asking Avatar
    just asking

    I agree to vote NO to this merge the people of Barbados & the Caribbean will be the ones loosing, we need competition in these islands, and good service providers.

  36. Colonel Buggy Avatar
    Colonel Buggy

    Are the workers at LIME,especially Linemen and Technicians, still unionised, including those recently imported?
    As it appears that when Technicians visit homes to carry out repairs,shortly after previous repairs were carried out, the technicians is asking the householder if the last technician who carried out the work was a Jamaican or a Bajan.

  37. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Colonel Buggy

    Have you also noticed that these technicians are working solo, climbing poles, using ladders, working in customer’s properties…?

    Which union would allow such field teams to be one-man teams? from a safety point of view alone it must be questionable…. and also from an efficiency angle.

    no wonder the service is so pissy.

    Bushie had some issues recently and the only guaranteed response was that after long tiring and frustrating phone calls to what seems like Egypt, we kept being given 12 digit ‘service numbers’ to record. LOL obviously designed to keep us confused while the poor service continued….

    It took a month, multiple complaints, and three different visits, to resolve a “bad connection on a pole” which broke down every time it rained.

  38. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Bushie

    You asked:

    “Which union would allow such field teams to be one-man teams? from a safety point of view alone it must be questionable…. and also from an efficiency angle.”

    That happens when senior union leaders drop the ball. They were too busy playing with their free Blackberry devices to notice what was happening to the workers.

    >

  39. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Mr Franklyn

    You are so right on this abdication of duty, but then again abdication would impute some type of previous involvement in representation on behalf of the workers and as you know Clarke and Trotty only interested in per diems and free blackberry plans for self and family

    All of these services are subcontracted out to a company and the linesmen were hired by that company thereby by stepping any Union rules and of course the Safety Regulations department of the GoB sitting on their hands a la Unfair Trading Commission styling

  40. Colonel Buggy Avatar
    Colonel Buggy

    Bush Tea January 3, 2015 at 11:46 PM #

    Have you also noticed that these technicians are working solo, climbing poles, using ladders, working in customer’s properties…?.
    ………………………………………………………………
    I was going to get around to that, as I recently heard a householder, cautioning one of these imported technicians who was up a ladder, that the ladder was unstable. And he was not using a rope to tie the ladder to the pole to stop him from catspraddling all over the road. They could also do with some training in Customer Relations.
    Equally as bad is the one-man operation of a hydraulic bucket truck. If the operator, becomes ill, or err in the handling of the controls, or the unit malfunctions, he is in duck’s guts. Or worse yet, if he contacts a live electricity line.
    And where is Ms Suckoo’s Elf and Safety in all of this, even if the operators are contract personnel.

  41. David Avatar
    David

    What is the feedback to LIMES’s call centre based in Mexico or some Latin American country?

    On Sunday, 4 January 2015, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >

  42. Colonel Buggy Avatar
    Colonel Buggy

    Bush Tea January 3, 2015 at 11:46 PM #

    Which union would allow such field teams to be one-man teams? from a safety point of view alone it must be questionable…. and also from an efficiency angle.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………..
    The same union which allowed Canadians to come down here, when LIME was enjoying the sweets in Barbados unchallenged, and operated as one-man teams, alongside the Bajan two-man teams to prove to the management of LIME that the work can be carried out by One-Man teams. And the rest is history.
    But do not be surprised when we see other utility and transport companies in Barbados following suit,to some extent.

  43. Colonel Buggy Avatar
    Colonel Buggy

    David January 4, 2015 at 12:26 PM #

    What is the feedback to LIMES’s call centre based in Mexico or some Latin American country?

    On Sunday, 4 January 2015, Barbados Underground wrote
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    I had a problem just before Christmas and the call centre somwhere in Mexico or Latin America, promised me that a technician would be calling next day. As promised, the Technician turned up next day,promised to fix the fault, went away , but did nothing. I was without the service over Christmas, and a few days into the new year, I again called the call center in Latin America, at around 9’oclock in the morning, and by 10.30 am, a Technician was knocking on my door.
    From my experience, LIME international call center appears to be doing its job, more than I can say for the LIME territorial technicians.

  44. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Colonel Buggy

    I am glad you are getting good service from the lime/Costa Rica/Latin America

    My experience and that of a few of my contemporaries is as follows

    Call to residential or commercial customer support

    After navigating through the press this button stuff and the non English speaking people who have no idea nor control to change any plans you get a promise that they will call you back.

    Two weeks later we are mostly all of us still awaiting call backs and our problems remain unsolved.

    So you must tell me what you are doing so that we can experience the level of customer service you have had with this Lazy Indifferent Motherf****g Entity (LIME)

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