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I would say that there is a high likely hood that the UK will be the first country in Europe to contract Ebola given the enormous Nigerian population residing in the UK. There are over one million Nigerians living in London alone! For decades this group have been smuggling in illegal food imports referred to as “bush meat”. Not to be confused with our very own Bush Tea!
I sincerely hope that your custom and excise duty officers are carefully monitoring foods imported into the country. We should be rigorously inspecting imported food products from countries such as China and Nigeria.
http://www.voice-online.co.uk/article/new-fears-bush-meat-could-spread-ebola
Pachamama
I categorically and unequivocally agree with your above claims because the public record supports it in a substantial way. Now, there are documented cases where the US government, used to administered what was once called: electric aversion therapy to cure homosexuality in gay men. And also performed lobotomies to modify behaviour in the mentally retarded people. But most shocking of all, and to support Pachamama case: we have all heard of the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment? Which was conducted between 1932 and 1972, Now, the US Health Service studied the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African Americans, who thought their were receiving free healthcare from the US government. So PG and moneybrain, there is great cause for African Americans not to trust the US government on issues relating to disease outbreaks because the public record supports the goverment intentional killing of African Americans, to further its own designed.
@Exclaimer
We should be rigorously inspecting imported food products from countries such as China and Nigeria.
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For a start , you can forget about coming down tough on Chinese imports.Nigeria maybe. China has now been elevated to Most Favourable Nation status by our government ,and appears to be holding a Special License in all of their dealings here. The importation and activation of Fireworks has been tightly controlled in Barbados,for many years now, yet a few years ago some Workers/ Prisoners attached to the China Construction Company , set off fireworks in a village near a project they were working on,almost setting a home on fire.
MoneyBrain August 2, 2014 at 12:55 PM
@Simpy
You are correct about it spreading BUT DEAD WRONG that a Virus is a Virus! WHY? Most viruses are AIRBORNE and most viruses DONT KILL 90% of those infected!
The thing with social media is that we cannot see each others faces, nor her vocal inflections so misunderstandings are rife.
I meant that I virus is not going to say let we get moneybrain ’cause he white, and let’s avoid Simple because Simple is black.
Viruses don’t care what color we are.
David | August 2, 2014 at 4:47 PM |
Yes it is usual to consider administering a vaccine before FDA routines have been completed but is there a case in Africa to administer on compassionate basis?
Experimental vaccine used in Ebola exposure case
the case cited should have been an eyeopener to those who want to believe that the traditional methods use to treat the virus are the only options available and that they are no cures ,,,,,however when another point of view is presented that shows a clear case of racism or a don’t care-ish attitude towards the african nation by the medical establishment,,the person or persons leveling these accusations are accused of being conspirators,,,,,however one cannot deny the fact that if govt can find the where with all to save two in a short period of time,,there are legitimate questions which should be asked as to why the same method used to treat the two cases now involved were not available to the african people over the years,
Lifechanger…….that is the nature of the beast, unless you have education re ebola, misinformation will reign, unless there is a worldwide epidemic killing tens of thousands thereby generating billions of dollars, the various governments, FDA, big pharma etc will continue to drag their feet on vaccines for ebola.
@Simpy
Viruses don’t care what color we are.
True, a good reason why it would be utter stupidity for Whitey to develop Ebola and then release it in Africa. If killing Africans is the objective why not release a Neutron Bomb?
@Dompey
U are correct regarding testing chemicals on people, Tuskegee etc there are Whiteys with ABSOLUTELY NO ETHICS!
@WW
Nuff trut in your comments!
Govt, Pharma, Bankers—-SCOURGE of the Erth all too often!
Come Georgie Porgie and moneybrain, the both of you appears to be two intelligent men as far as paper goes. Now, in complete honesty, it is possible for anyone to give of his/her full confidence to an entity, which has betrayed his/her trust? There is always a lingering thought in the back of a sensible person’s mind that it could possibly happen once again, so there is a genuine fair which makes itself known when such happenstance thus occurs. This is a historical fear which envelop itself, when this type of medical phenomenon disrupts the natural order of the modern life.
here is a birds eye view and analysis of one of the Ebola victims arrival in atlanta
Moneybrain, the issue before us is Trust and not Ethics as you seem to have applied to the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment. So the question now becomes: are we willing to trust a government, which is capable of doing such a thing to its citizenry? Remember now, the past with its good and evil lives in the present and as a matter of public record, previous generation of African Americans are well aware of this evil act commited on the part of the White ruling class in America.
race against time and the awkard positions that govts have found themselves in ….. having to answers the questions of why it took so ,long to find solutions,,,,,,and if race was the underlying factor in not finding viable alternatives……solutions are being fast forward at rapid pace for the prevention and treatment of the Ebola virus .although big phram continues to drag its feet when it cannot see a big profit margin…,,,
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At least four vaccines are being developed to protect people against Ebola, including one that protects monkeys completely against the deadly virus. Several groups are also working on treatments, but one of the most promising is stuck in safety testing.
They might be farther along if not for one problem: money.
Even though Ebola is burning out of control in West Africa, it’s not a huge potential market for a large pharmaceutical company to sink its teeth — and its assets — into developing. That leaves the U.S. government and small, niche biopharmaceutical companies.
“I don’t see why anybody except the U.S. government would get involved in developing these kinds of countermeasures,” said Dr. Sina Bavari of the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) in Frederick, Maryland. “There is no market in it.”
@Colonel Buggy | August 2, 2014 at 5:28 PM,
You continue to paint a disturbing picture of a government that appears to be working under duress.
What exactly is the relationship shared between the Chinese and Barbadian government? There are whispers, nudges and eyebrows being raised by many that something untoward is taking place amongst those individuals who profess to govern us. Why would a responsible government relax controls on the importation of fireworks especially when it is well known that today’s fireworks are extremely powerful – if not lethal? What factors influenced them to climb down from their previous stance?
I was not aware that the Barbados government gave work permits to convicted felons. What punishment did they receive?
There are many people with twenty-twenty vision who can see the smoke, but are unable to see the fire. One solution to put out this fire would be to shine the torch on those individuals who are creating these fires. The sole way of eliminating a contagious plague is to allow the law to take its course by isolating those infected individuals. Those who catch Ebola have a ten percent survival rate. The remaining ninety percent die and have to be cremated. I believe that this is the sole solution to the governance problem in Barbados. The two Ebola strains (The DLP and BLP), have to be treated in a similar way.
Exclaimer
Debola and Bebola wusser than Ebola because at least Ebola puts out of your misery quickly and permanently!
I would strongly recommend NOT eating anything from China. 50% of the Water is NOT fit for Agriculture, the air pollution which should be 4-15 is regularly at 5-600 and has been as high as 825! CAVEAT EMPTOR!
Dompey
Skippa I brought up my kids to NOT TRUST anybody 100%! As I used to say I trust U and your Mother 99% on a good day!
Some white people viscous and would do anything to anybody, sadly the same is true for some from every sub group. Some are just plain EVIL!
There is no market for space tourism either, but one can always be created. And this is the job of the marketers. They can create a market for anything. So virus flare-ups may function to have millions of people buying a drug they don’t want or need. Fear is one of the strongest motivators.
here is another view as to why the Ebola virus got out of control,
one can disagree but the article paints a troubling concern which many have of the west and its handling of this crisis,
Ebola first appeared in 1976. Please note that all of these viruses of recent times all have the same or similar symtons. They have all been created to drive fear into the hearts of mankind and prepare us psychologically to willingly surrender ourselves to the dictates of the NEW WORLD ORDER.
@MoneyBrain | August 2, 2014 at 8:11 PM
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/07/china-pollution-protests-2014729105632310682.html
the fallout and criticism stemming from this Ebola disaster is going to be harsh and swift as people comes to terms with international agencies and the western govts failure of not waging war on this most deadly diseases over a thirty year period but leaving it to the most unequipped govts who are mostly debt ridden and least likely to be able to provide ample health services for the poor and vulnerable citizens…
One cannot compare the mortality of influenza vs Ebola. Yes, influenza kills many, but one then has to split the categories into strong, and weak/infirm /those with co-morbidities.
A strong individual ‘should’ survive influenza.
Anyone can be / has a high chance of death from Ebola.
One assumption above, in alleging that Ebola could be government released, is that governments ‘can’ control the Earth and its viruses and organisms, that is ridiculous.
Further, that governments or other organisations released it to sell more drugs.
Again, ridiculous, as repeated from my earlier post, there are few drugs, aside from vaccinations (which surely do not have the high economic return that other treatment drugs do) that can treat viruses, which must basically, run their course, medicine merely attending to symptoms, which attempts apparently, has not been fruitful.
No, Ebola is, as is reported, a virus out of the tropical jungle which has surfaced.
And yes, likely there are many more to come.
The big issue is, can we survive a heavy quarantine and care period?
U.S. Congress Appropriations Committee Hearing ~
RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT,
TESTING, AND EVALUATION OF
SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS
Published by the U.S. Government Printing Office
Reposted on the Internet by the PhilFam Committee
22 June 1998
NOTE: The document below (designated as “Part 5”) is a true copy of the transcript of the July 1, 1969 testimony of Dr. Donald MacArthur — a high-level Defense Department biological research administrator — before the House Committee on Appropriations, Subcommittee on Department of Defense. MacArthur was then Deputy Director of Defense Research and Engineering. Congress approved the appropriation for the program.
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
HEARINGS
BEFORE A
SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
NINETY-FIRST CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION
SUBCOMMITTEE ON DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS
GEORGE H. MAHON, Texas, Chairman
ROBERT L.F. SIKES, Florida
JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi
GEORGE W. ANDREWS, Alabama
DANIEL J. FLOOD, Arizona
JOHN M. SLACK, West Virginia
JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York
FRANK E. EVANS, Colorado GLENARD P. LIPSCOMB, California
WILLIAM E. MINSHALL, Ohio
JOHN J. RHODES, Arizona
GLENN R. DAVIS, Wisconsin
R. L. MICHAELS, RALPH PRESTON, JOHN GARRETT, PETER MURPHY, ROBERT NICHOLAS
AND ROBERT FOSTER, Staff Assistants
* Temporarily assigned.
H.B. 15090
PART 5
RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST, AND EVALUATION
Department of the Army
Statement of Director, Advanced Research Project Agency
Statement of Director, Defense Research and Engineering
Printed for the use of the Committee on Appropriations
U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON : 1969
UNITED STATES SENATE LIBRARY
129 TUESDAY, JULY 1, 1969
agents that we have ever considered. So, we have to believe they are
probably working in the same areas.
SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS
There are two things about the biological agent field I would like
to mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecular
biology is a field that is advancing very rapidly and eminent biologists
believe that within a period of 5 to 10 years it would be possible to
produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally
exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired.
MR. SIKES. Are we doing any work in that field?
DR. MACARTHUR. We are not.
MR. SIKES. Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest?
DR. MACARTHUR. Certainly not lack of interest.
MR. SIKES. Would you provide for our records information on what
would be required, what the advantages of such a program would be,
the time and the cost involved?
DR. MACARTHUR. We will be very happy to.
(The information follows:)
The dramatic progress being made in the field of molecular biology led us to
investigate the relevance of this field of science to biological warfare. A small group of experts considered this matter and provided the following observa- tions:
1. All biological agents up the the present time are representatives of naturally
occurring disease, and are thus known by scientists throughout the world. They
are easily available to qualified scientists for research, either for offensive or
defensive purposes.
2. Within the next 5 to 10 years, it would probably be possible to make a new
infective microorganism which could differ in certain important aspects from
any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might
be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we
depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease.
3. A research program to explore the feasibility of this could be completed
in approximately 5 years at a total cost of $10 million.
4. It would be very difficult to establish such a program. Molecular biology
is a relatively new science. There are not many highly competent scientists in the
field. Almost all are in university laboratories, and they are generally adequately
supported from sources other than DOD. However, it was considered possible
to initiate an adequate program through the National Academy of Sciences –
National Research Council (NAS-NRC).
The matter was discussed with the NAS-NRC, and tentative plans were plans were made
to initiate the program. However decreasing funds in CB, growing criticism
of the CB program, and our reluctance to involve the NAS-NRC in such a con-
troversial endeavor have led us to postpone it for the past 2 years.
It is a highly controversial issue and there are many who believe such
research should not be undertaken lest it lead to yet another method of massive
killing of large populations. On the other hand, without the sure scientific
knowledge that such a weapon is possible, and an understanding of the ways it
could be done, there is little that can be done to devise defensive measures.
Should an enemy develop it, there is little doubt that this is an important area
of potential military technological inferiority in which there is no adequate
research program.
CROSS-COUNTRY SHIPMENT OF LETHAL AGENTS
MR. SIKES. Now, let’s talk about shipments. There has been a great
deal of discussion–most of it hostile–about the proposal to ship cer-
tain stocks of nerve gas across coutry for transporting to a deep….
as this virus continues to wreck havoc outside its isolated borders ,,there will be questions asked and many debates brought forward as awareness as to how this Virus was mishandled .a PR disaster for western govt to say the least and one which they will have to find convincing answers for self recovery,,as of now people are war tired and will be to quick to point out the huge gap of financial vis via the money spent trying to find a cure for peace and the huge difference one of limited supplies and money given to fighting a global war against the deadly virus called ebola …
the article below is just one of a few which reaches in and points out the huge differences
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-troubling-truth-behind-the-ebola-outbreak/5377653
@Anonymous,
So what. Yes, it is possible to produce biological agents. But one is talking money, relevance and containment.
My point above was about the seeming assumption by some above that it is not possible or likely for a virus to develop naturally in the open world (as if mankind knows it all).
Do you really think that artifically introducing such into the ‘open environment’ without control benefits those ‘western ‘ interests?
One must be careful to miss the forest for the trees.
Think of the whole, in assessing a situation.
Further, contrary to a lot of commenters here, I see the ‘West’ actually pushing for protection of Africa and its peoples, rather than its destruction.
Why???
‘google’ as GP’s point 😉 who is the main food and vegetable producer for Northern Europe and the British Isles.
I know the answer, hence I know why it would be ridiculous for those countries to willfully produce a virus to destroy that region (aside form the obvious moral implications)
@ac ”this Virus was mishandled .a PR disaster for western govt to say the least and one which they will have to find convincing answers for self recovery”
What???? Firstly, you are assuming that a virus CAN actually be handled, aside form quarantine. It seems, despite what is explained above, Many just cannot understand that.
And a virus of Ebola’s nature. What, you actually think that the professors run into their labs with 2 billion to spend and ‘voila’????
And what exactly do the ‘western governments’ HAVE to do????
They don’t HAVE to do anything. Of course, if they have some sense, they will institute strict travel and quarantine requirements for flights and travel out of that region.
Yes, in protection of their citizens, I would say, to do their duty to their citizens, they HAVE to do that.
It seems you are just not understanding what a virus is.
well who know what evil lurks in the hearts of Man…..as GP will attest,,man by nature is EVIL……. NOT GOOD…..
hey lil mam (crusoe) by now every tom dick and harry should know what a virus is and the differing infections attributed,,some deadly and some not,,,,, the fact is that what most people cannot understand is why the West,,one of the few places on this earth with massive financial resources and thy kingdom come scientific research,,,,would not have placed a more hardened and fastened approach in helping to combat the virus,,the method of isolation has now proved to be a failure and now as one gets a close look and the disaster facing other countries in the face,,the west would be placed under a microscope and many questions would be asked,,,,,, dont get it twisted ma boy,,,,,,,,this is a disaster that was funded inappropriately and methodology used was isolation as a way of treatment to contain…. Unbelivable,,,
Are you on something???? But, as always, when certain people cannot adequately justify their arguments, they resort to name calling (true sign of a small mind).
No ac, you are wrong. There is only one way to contain such a virus.
And no, you obviously DO NOT know / understand what a virus is.
All you do is rabbit on with irrelevance and conjecture.
But that is fine, if it keeps you happy.
@balance August 2, 2014 at 11:36 PM “Ebola first appeared in 1976. Please note that all of these viruses of recent times all have the same or similar symtons. They have all been created to drive fear into the hearts of mankind and prepare us psychologically to willingly surrender ourselves to the dictates of the NEW WORLD ORDER.”
Many viral and bacterial illnesses have similar initial symptoms, that is fever, weakness, loss of appetite. This happen in humans. If you have ever kept a dog or cat or pig or or a cow or a sheep or any animal you will note that animals also suffer fever, loss of appetite and weakness. These symptoms are common to all mammals. And no the white man did not make mammalian bodies.
There is no new world order. There is just old human greed. Human greed is as old as the hills. Slavery was driver by human greed. Modern capitalism is driven by human greed.
People don’t learn much. Most of us believe that more money, more things, will make us happier, healthier and help us to live longer.
Human beings NEVER surrender themselves willingly. Have you ever seen a toddler in action. As soon as they learn to walk and talk they start resisting their parents. Human beings have a built-in desire for freedom.
Why do you think that adults arm themselves, why do you think that every country arms themselves, create police forces and armies, and acquire guns and bombs.
Because human beings are natural resistors. We hate being oppressed. The only way for oppression to be successful is to crack our heads and shoot some people (Yes uh mean you Ronnie) or at least threaten to do so. Because even toddlers are natural resistors.
Money does not buy health, happiness or longevity..isn’t Ian Burns dead? Isn’t Steve Jobs dead, Isn’t David Thompson dead, dead, ead. Did they take anything with them? Did any of them make it any where near three score and ten. Stupseee!!!!!!!!!!! Will Dennis Lowe make it to 100? Will he even make it to 80+ like his old labouring mother?
Do you wanna to take a bet?
LOL!!!
And meanwhile the little old lady labourers are happy and healthy at 100+
Can we learn anything?
Or are we irredeemably stupid?
@ac
Make no mistake $$$$$$ talks in solving anything that Pharma Corps do! One Giant Pharma even falsified results in a trial for an anti depression drug aimed at youth—–they knew that it actually caused an 800% INCREASE in Suicides!
Chantix is sold as a solution to ceasing Smoking, I know of a woman who had stop taking it after 10 days as she wanted to commit suicide because of it! I know a gent, very rich, who did commit suicide because of a drug he was placed on.
I worked as a Marketing Consultant in my 20s and our Pharma client had very clever employees BUT PURE Unadulterated EVIL!
Shoot crusoe,,,,,,,,that is fine with me,,,,,be that as it may…. have you not read of the recorded cases where the virus was treatable in its early stages,,remember it has a twenty one day period before the virus becomes fully activated,,so yes the disease can be well treated for full recovery…,,, it does not have to be a death sentence,,i suggest that instead of blowing off hot steam and trying to prove yourself ignorant of the facts of the issue while being spoon fed a daily dietary ignorance of western media who stated that they have a limited knowledge of the virus ,,,,maybe you ought to find it necessary to do your own research and in the process read differing point of views,,,, isolation is not always a good thing….the ebola virus a lesson to be learned .
@Crusoe August 3, 2014 at 8:44 AM “@ ac Are you on something????”
ac is on something alright. “The West” sent some little green men in flying saucers one night and they “The West” controlled little green men vaccumed out ac’s brain.
And left what in its place?
Who knows.
lolllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dr. Horowitz Continues To
Expose True Origins Of
HIV And Ebola
11-18-98
BOSTON — Shocking government documents, reprinted in a new book by a leading public health authority, reveal that the AIDS and Ebola viruses did not likely originate from African monkeys left alone in the wild. Instead, Dr. Leonard Horowitz, a Harvard graduate, and independent investigator, concludes that the viruses, that now threaten humanity’s survival, most likely evolved from early cancer virus experiments in which top military-pharmaceutical scientists infected monkeys with viral genes from other animals. Such contaminated monkeys were then used to develop viral vaccines tested on humans simultaneously in New York City and Central Africa. The first researcher to meticulously document this “man-made theory” on AIDS’s origin, Dr. Horowitz stunned a large audience at the XI International Conference on AIDS in July, when he presented a scientific summary report of his investigation.
As documented in Dr. Horowitz’s book, “Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola — Nature, Accident or Intentional?” (Tetrahedron, Inc., 1996; $29.95), during the 1960s, National Cancer Institute(NCI) researchers, working in collaboration with military scientists, investigated and developed viruses as potential cancer triggers. Using monkeys and other animals, the investigators induced an array of illnesses now commonly linked to AIDS including leukemia, lymphoma, sarcoma, immune system suppression, and general wasting. Documented records show the leukemia/sarcoma/lymphoma cancer complex, never seen in humans prior to 1978, had been the primary focus of a highly funded, yet largely secret, “Special Virus Cancer Program.” By analyzing formerly classified documents, and NCI/government contracts showing how, when, where, and why such viruses were made, Dr. Horowitz’s 563 page treatise concludes that the AIDS virus likely broke out as a result of contaminated polio and hepatitis B vaccine experiments. Those implicated include top AIDS researchers, biological weapons contractors, and institutions who, the published documents show, developed and tested such immune-system-ravaging agents for the NCI and Department of Defense (DOD) during the late 1960s.
“Most people believe AIDS came from African monkeys,” Dr. Horowitz explained. “What the authorities, and therefore the media, never broadcast was what was done to the monkeys to create numerous AIDS-like and Ebola-like viruses in those early years of cancer research.”
Monkeys, contaminated with assorted immune-system-destroying cancer viruses, were used to develop both polio and hepatitis vaccines. The hepatitis vaccine was administered virtually simultaneously to special populations in New York City, and Central Africa during the early 1970s. The recipients were people who had been previously exposed to polio vaccine delivered monkey viruses. This, Dr. Horowitz said, might best explain the sudden appearance of new virus forms and AIDS cases in these areas in 1978. Additional support for this theory came from Dr. Gerald Myers, chief of a special AIDS project of the U.S. Government’s Los Alamos Laboratory, who observed a “Big Bang” — the simultaneous emergence of numerous types of HIV around the world by 1975.
Dr. Horowitz’s text also presents stunning admissions by top monkey virus experts and vaccine analysts including the world’s leading vaccine developer, Dr. Maurice Hilleman, of Merck, Sharp and Dohme. The Merck pharmaceutical company was the government’s principle military vaccine producer during most of the cold war when their president, George W. Merck, directed America’s biological weapons industry. Hilleman, during a taped interview on file at the National Library of Medicine, acknowledged his role in importing contaminated green monkeys, from facilities in Central Africa, into the United States for research and vaccine production. “I brought (the) African greens in,” Hilleman said during a 1986 interview originally recorded, but never aired, by WGBH, Boston’s famed public television station. “I didn’t know we were importing AIDS virus at the time.”
The contaminated monkeys apparently came from another documented biological weapons contractor — Litton Bionetics, Dr. Horowitz explained. “Litton was the chief NCI contractor for primate supplies and maintained laboratory operations and monkey colonies in Uganda and Maryland.”
Outraged AIDS activists, scientists, and public interest groups nationwide are calling for an independent congressional investigation into Dr. Horowitz’s published facts. Several authorities are now urging analyses of suspected vaccine lots, believed to be held by the FDA, including Dr. W. John Martin, former director of the Viral Oncology Branch of the FDA’s Bureau of Biologics, the government’s principal agency in charge of testing human vaccines. Dr. Martin, who wrote the foreword to
Dr. Horowitz’s book, stated “the issue of possible simian virus contamination of certain live viral vaccines has been suppressed since 1972… This basic flaw in the regulatory process must be addressed.”
Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola. Nature, Accident or Intentional?
Interview of Leonard G. Horowitz, D.M.D., M.A.., M.P.H. by Gary Null 1995. http://www.garynull.com/ http://www.tetrahedron.org/
NULL: What evidence can you present on these diseases, Ebola, Marburg, AIDS?
HOROWITZ: One of the things which we publish is the “Special Virus Cancer Programme” and the information that comes out of that programme, what might be called a secret cancer virus programme that was conducted between 1962 and 1974 by researchers at the National Cancer Institute (NCI) in co-operation with biological weapons developers for the dept of Defence, and in those documents it shows very clearly that what those researchers did was that they took things like the Simian monkey virus (SV40), and they essentially extracted the DNA out of it and they infused it with other types of nucleic acids like RNA from cat leukaemia, from chicken sarcoma, and that created a mutant, a new kind of germ, which still had a difficult time infecting humans. And because these researchers were investigating human cancers and human vaccines, allegedly for the prevention of human cancers they then cultured these types of organisms in human cell cultures or in foetal tissues which created what’s called surface membrane changes, such as in the AIDS virus it’s called GP120 proteins on the external envelope that would allow these new mutants to attach to the human membranes, be carried across the cell membranes, enter the genes of the cell, or the genome of the cell, then essentially do everything the AIDS viruses do, or other viruses are alleged to do, if you take into consideration that HIV may not be the sole cause of AIDS.
So I look back on the early history, of for example Dr Gallo had come out with clearly a false speculation that stated that the African Green monkey (AGM) bit an African and then a Portuguese seaman who carried this virus over to Portugal some 500 years ago, and the evidence we have from the scientific literature shows clearly that the Simian Green Monkey for example never had these types of AIDS like viruses in them. In fact the history shows that Maurice Hillman at Merck who was the chief vaccine developer imported the AGM into the US specifically because it did not have these viruses that they were finding were breaking out in their laboratories and therefore creating a major risk in the incorporation of them into the vaccines that they were developing at the time, and I am sure on your travels you have learned recently that some of the polio vaccines, the old polio vaccines, and even some of the ones used today may be containing viruses such as Cytomegalovirus or what Dr Martin calls the stealth virus, and the issue as I see it is that these emerging viruses were emerging from the NCI researchers laboratories.
They were not emerging from the wild, so today the Blacks have been blamed for AIDS. The gays have been blamed for AIDS. The monkeys have been blamed for AIDS & Ebola, and you know what? That is a bunk, complete bull. The truth of the matter is that the NCI researchers in co-operation with a narrow network of virologists who are being paid by the Dept of Defence to investigate these types of viruses, and the viral vaccines made from them. Their biohazard and containment in their facilities were abysmal, and just like the recent Texas outbreak of Ebola, the other outbreaks—we have had monkey AIDS outbreaks over half a dozen times in the major vaccine production labs, as well as the research labs—the reason for this is because once you create these viruses they are very easily transmitted from one animal to the other in these facilities, and that as I see it is where viruses are emerging from.
NULL: The evidence is going to have to be submitted to convince this audience. A lot of people have made these in the past. We have all seen or heard of the Strecker memorandum, and Dr Eva Snead, but no one has had actual documents except for some document presented of some research being planned, but I want some specifics. First one thought, no ad hominem attacks, I want the documentation……
NULL. How was it made, why was it made?
HOROWITZ: I can tell you for sure that if there is, and I believe there is, a particle known as HIV, I can tell you absolutely for sure that Dr Robert Gallo…….based on research from publications of 1970 of the proceedings of the National Academy of Scientists, and in 1971 Nature New Biology, Robert Gallo and his associates at Litton Bionetics which was 6th on the list of major army biological weapons contractors for 1969, directly out of the congressional record, is my citation there Gary, that these folks clearly created numerous AIDS like viruses in their labs.
NULL. What is your proof?
HOROWITZ: What they were creating were viruses that would attack the immune system. They essentially, in these reports,they took SV40, which was the 40th Simian monkey virus discovered by Maurice Hilleman, at Merck, and they took this monkey virus, and they extracted the nucleic acid out of it leaving a blank viral envelope, technically called a phage, and then they infused it with cat leukaemia RNA, and anyone who knows AIDS victims will know they suffer from a laundry list of cat leukaemia like symptoms, and then they put chicken sarcoma RNA, and they took that combination, called a viral hybrid, and what they were looking for was a diagnostic test for human leukaemia, and also a vaccine to prevent human leukaemia, and sarcomas, and interestingly enough like you said earlier we never had the skyrocketing incidence of leumeias and sarcomas, and Karposis sarcoma was almost unheard of—elderly men got it, occasionally Africans got it but it was a benign type of Karposis sarcoma that they got. Well interestingly enough between 1962 and 1974 in the Special Cancer Virus Research Programme which was published by the NIH…you see that leukaemia sarcoma complex was the principle cancer researchers study area that they were concerned with, and what they did, to get it to be a useful diagnostic test for human leukaemia and sarcoma, and to develop vaccines, they then cultured it in human white blood cells so it would allow it to jump species. That is how it could possibly jump species. If you have these monkeys in the monkey facility where the containment was abysmal, recorded in the Congressional record, in the early 60’s. Bernice Eddy and Mary Stewart were the first researchers to discover the SE Polyoma virus, the first virus know to cause cancer in almost every animal that it was injected into, and interestingly enough it was later determined that that was identical to SV40, that these researchers took and they modified it with leukaemia virus, cat leukaemia RNA, and chicken sarcoma RNA, and essentially these things were breaking out all throughout their labs and we have recordings that show the researchers were extremely concerned about these outbreaks that were going on in their own facilities.
The AIDS type of viruses were definitely being produced.
NULL: They would argue that they were doing it for cancer research in order to help find an answer to cancer.
HOROWITZ: Absolutely, but we have an abstract accepted wherein we state we could not rule out the genocidal theory. There essentially was a document which we also published in an earlier book called Deadly Innocence and we reprinted the text out of it which literally is an appropriations request from the Dept of Defence in 1970 wherein they request 10 million dollars for the development viruses to essentially knock out the human immune system, and this was, we tracked down, a request that was put through from the highest positions of the US government that virtually the buck stopped with Henry Kissinger according to the Frank Church investigations commission which was investigating the illegal storage of biological weapons by the CIA in 1975, which was several years after Nixon signed the Geneva accord outlawing those types of practices. What we found was that it was the National Academy of Sciences, National Research Council, Gary, that informed the Dept of Defence that these types of biological weapons could be developed over 5 years for a cost of 10 million dollars, and we learned that it is most plausible that how the NAS and NRC was able to inform the Dept of Defence that, was because they were already doing that. Researchers that I have talked about at the NCI, had those contracts beginning in 1962 to actually do that work, and we published the proof it the book Emerging Viruses. I literally took the governments own documents I found in the basement of Davis Library, University of N Carolina an incredible book called the Special Virus Cancer Programme which had all the government contracts including what they did and how much they were paid, and based on that evidence it is clear to me how it was that they could inform the Dept of Defence that they could do that in 5 years.
NULL: How was it created and how did it get into population groups?
HOROWITZ: Well, I am very very clear that how it got into population groups was through the vaccines, there is no question in my mind based on the tremendous amount of scientific evidence that is available now that the polio vaccines were laced with Simian viruses, SV40 and others, because once you place a virus which is highly unstable in a serum or a media that has other virus particles in it you get recombinants, you get hybrids, mutants, and ultimately these were incorporated in the live vaccines and in fact they are still being used to a great extent. I think listeners would be appalled that some of the vaccines that are being currently being used are still laced with viruses, so my thesis shows that the most plausible way in which the American gay community and the central African community became infected with the AIDS like viruses or AIDS virus, the most plausable, and I am not saying absolutely, I am laying out a tremendous amount of evidence for the readers to interpret. I am saying the most plausible way the outbreak happened was through the Hepatitis B vaccines that were administered simultaneously in New York City and central Africa between 1970 and 1974, and they were produced by Merck….now this should be investigated by the highest scientific authorities.
NULL: Would it be easy enough to get a sample of vaccine?
HOROWITZ: You know what? Even to this day, the government, the FDA is refusing to use the sophisticated biotechnology to evaluate the contaminants in the vaccines such as the polio vaccines that they are administering.
NULL: Are you aware that the hep B virus has never been isolated?
HOROWITZ: Well the antigens certainly have…
NULL: The actual virus has never been isolated, Hep B, Hep C has never been isolated. No one can show a complete Hep B virus.
HOROWITZ: What I am saying is that because of the contaminants, recombinants within the viruses, as I said before, if you have a viral particle for example, and then you have a Simian monkey virus next to it it is very plausable that the contaminant, the RNA or DNA particle, or whatever you want to call it, could easily integrate into the Simian virus and then become a virus, so there are a lot of ways to look at it, and you have to be very critical, like you said earlier, to really evaluate what is going on as there is so much disinformation going on out there.
NULL: So what you are saying is those people who received this experimental hepatitis B vaccine in the 1970’s were more likely to have had a cross contaminant from one of the original viruses. Do you in any way associate what Dr John Martin calls the Simian cytomegalovirus, the stealth virus, is a part of this?
HOROWITZ: It could very well be, and Dr Martin would be one authority that I would ask legislators and the scientific community, to get to evaluate lots of the experimental vaccines that the FDA is currently, by law, holding on to, because he could in a couple of days tell you whether indeed the thesis in Emerging Viruses, or the polio vaccines, or the hep B vaccine, whether they are the source of these contaminants.
NULL: What was the CIA’s role in all of this, if any?
HOROWITZ: They were running a project called NKNAOMI. And that was the secret weapons biological programme, and in 1969 at the Dept of Defence appropriation hearings were held it was the CIA’s conjecture that the Russians were going to be beating America to the biological weapons unless we did something and the CIA alleged that they were far ahead of us. The story goes that we were the premier bio-weapons developers in the world. The CIA brought over in project Paperclip 900 of the top Nazi scientists including their top biological weapons developer Eric Trope who the evidence shows went to work for the Navy and the University of California where Peter Deusberg was associated with and Erich Traub gave rise to the dept of virology out there. Now the CIA was intimately interested in a variety of viruses and the Church commission hearings noted that beside the shellfish toxin, that was the only thing the media covered. It is amazing how there is no in depth reporting here in the USA. People my age in their mid 40’s might remember the reports about 1975 where the CIA was being blamed for holding onto shellfish toxin. Well, if you go into the records they were holding onto more than shellfish toxin, they were holding onto Venezuelan encephalomyelitis, and all sorts of other viruses, and that was in 1975, about 5 years after the 10 million dollars was given to the development of AIDS like viruses, so they were clearly holding onto viruses that could knock out immune systems by that time, and so the role of the CIA is interesting. In my book I lay out the entire social and political background which Henry Kissinger, for example, ordered the CIA to go to Central Africa, Zaire and Angola in fact became the major stand against world Communism after the Vietnam war, and people don’t know that too often.
That is very interesting because that is very close to the centre of the AIDS epidemic, and interestingly enough there was an organisation that the Russians as late as 1987 were saying was affiliated with the Pentagon and the CIA which we traced top CIA researchers that were initially Hitler’s group that came over in Project Paperclip and they were in Eastern Zaire very close to the Ugandan border and also right close to the AIDS highway and the alleged centre of the outbreaks of Ebola & AIDS, NW Uganda. That is EXACTLY where the principal cancer research laboratories and monkey colonies were, right, very very close to where this CIA activity was going on. Intense National Cancer Institute (NCI) activity was going on. So all these are of course circumstantial evidence. When you lay out all the circumstantial evidence you have to conclude that 2/3rds of the American Black community that feel that the genocidal theory might be supported, they are absolutely right. There is no question in my mind that there is a tremendous amount of evidence to suggest that there is some foul play on the part of the CIA.
NULL: Do you believe that the Ebola virus evolved in the wilds of Africa, and have you heard of the NW strain found in several monkeys imported into Texas?
HOROWITZ: Yes, indeed. They published studies, for example, John Landon who was director of Litton Bionetics, and he had taken what was called Rabdo virus, or rabies type of viruses, called rabdo viruses simian, and I show in the book that the worlds leading expert in identifying and diagnosing these new viruses—actually they called them emerging viruses back then —they had the contract for being the number one person to tell us what type of viruses these were. As I said before they were recombining, they were mutating, there were different combinations so it was very difficult to understand which was which. Well he himself, we have published his statement to a conference, late 1960’s, shortly after the Marburg virus outbreak, the mother of Ebola, which broke out in 3 vaccine production facilities simultaneously in 1967, in Europe. Shortly thereafter he gets up in a symposium and says “I believe that this Simian Virus is man made”. That is a quote, and so you have the worlds leading expert at the time who had the contract for the NCI to tell all other doctors what types of viruses they are, saying this, so it is not just me saying this. But then, what happened was in the Special Cancer Virus Programme book, John Landon says that he took 18 Simian monkeys in about 1965/66 through 1970 this experiment ran, and he inoculated 18 Simian monkeys with rabdo virus simian which again all, most of the leading experts, the consensus was that the Marburg which was the mother of Ebola, that that originated from Rabdo virus Simian. Here was a study, John Landon took 18 Simian monkeys, inoculated them with rabdo virus simian and then 9 of them died and 9 of them he said were transferred. Now everyone that has seen the movie outbreak knows that the monkeys that lived developed antibodies to the infection, and those were the monkeys that were very valuable to vaccine development and those were the monkeys that were shipped off to the vaccine development labs, so I actually site in the book the most plausible study which gave rise to the first Marburg virus outbreak in 1967.
NULL: When you look at the viruses, especially since we have been told that no monkey, chimp, Baboon has ever developed AIDS, and only recently when they were able to use chemotherapy to first destroy its immune system, the one developed AIDS like symptoms, but it has never been from the actual original HIV. In the lab can the transformation be made from the Simian SIV virus to HIV 1?
HOROWITZ: Yes indeed it has been shown, as a matter of fact the NHI last year gave 1.6 million to a researcher from the University of Kentucky for doing just that, taking the human AIDS virus and from that developing the monkey AIDS virus, and I show that the most plausible way in which the human AIDS virus developed was from the evolution of SV40 through a series of mutations to become the human AIDS virus, exactly step for step the reverse of what Nurian showed at the university of Kentucky.
NULL: The answer to that is yes. Who was the principal supplier for African Green Monkeys for vaccine research?
HOROWITZ: That interestingly enough, and here is where I think you have to be a fool and you do not need to be a rocket scientist to understand the implications. Litton Bionetics, now Litton industries is one of the worlds premier weapons contractors. In 1969 there were 6th on the list of the list of Americas, and they had a sub division called Litton Bionetics which was 6th on the list of the Armies major biological weapons contractors and in the Special Cancer Virus Programme book, and in my book I reprint the contracts they had in order to provide every cancer researcher throughout the world with everything that was needed for primate research.. That is all the monkeys, all the monkey viruses, all the monkey cell lines, all the monkey testing reagents, everything in regard to primates, that is what Litton bionetics had. So the thesis, the theory I am proposing for readers to critically evaluate for the scientific community to critically evaluate, legislators, is a very good likelihood that given the fact that it was Litton Bionetics lab researchers, that is John Landon, Robert King, co-working with, working side by side, sometimes even with Dr Robert Gallo who was directing this group from the NCI, that these are the folks intimately involved with the development of AIDS like viruses. The theory is that in their labs were monkeys that they were testing these things on, the biohazard containment was abysmal, the viruses spread, and then these labs, Litton Bionetics in North West Uganda, as well as in Bethseda, and N Carolina, I am saying that it was easily plausible to have them ship monkeys to other research labs that were infected with these slow viruses that you could not tell the symptoms from
NULL: Lentil, means slow growing.
HOROWITZ: Exactly, and interestingly enough 2 weeks ago at a National AIDS conference I sat down with Max Essex who is director of the Harvard AIDS Institute who is the discoverer or HIV 2 which when he first discovered it in Senegalese women in West Africa he stated that “this is the missing link”. He felt that this was for sure how HIV 1 was initially developed from. I sat down with him and I said could you please tell me how other than through vaccines could HIV 2 which you wrote you found in Senegalese women which has now shown to be virtually identical to the Simian Immuno deficiency virus from the Macaque monkey, which is known to be a monkey virus contaminant, lab contaminant, that is NOT found in monkeys in the wild. How could this end up in Senegalese women in the wild, other than vaccines? And he really had great trouble, he could not and did not answer my question directly, but he did say what I thought was extremely interesting. He said how his monkeys got contaminated was because the monkeys were in some other researchers facility prior to his, and those researchers inoculated those monkeys with human tissues for various experiments, and then the monkeys were shipped onto his lab for analysis of HIV. Now that just goes to show you the biohazard and containment was absolutely abysmal. The techniques that were being used, the monkeys were being transferred from lab to lab, from country to country, it was an accident waiting to happen, and interestingly enough guess who held the major contract for making sure these outbreaks didn’t happen? It was Dow Chemical, they were paid about 348,000 dollars which interestingly enough was only 1% of the entire 34.8 million budget to make sure outbreaks of this type didn’t happen, and apparently they failed in their job.
NULL: Do you believe the vaccines in current use in the US are safe?
HOROWITZ: Absolutely not.
NULL: Do you believe the vaccines we were using over the past 25/30 years have been safe?
HOROWITZ: Absolutely not.
NULL: Do you believe any of these vaccines may have had viruses from the contaminated African Green Tree Monkeys out of the US that were used for vaccines.
HOROWITZ: Absolutely yes.
NULL: So you believe that by having vaccines that are contaminated, that vaccines from the monkeys themselves having cross reactive viruses could have had some of these stealth viruses hitherto for not seen in the monkey end up mixing with contaminants to create new and very virulent forms of activity?
HOROWITZ: Highly plausible.
NULL: Do you feel that may have been one of the causes of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)?
HOROWITZ: Absolutely, based on the evidence of Dr Martin. Yes.
NULL: So you believe then that AIDS had its origins through misguided programmes of viral research, ostensibly in one direction to help with cancer treatments but originating from industries that had specialised in Biowarfare research, that these could have been contaminated in that contamination process since there were no methods to determine the contamination especially if it is stealth viruses, that when you take a, something indigenous to monkeys, by the way just as an aside, I was able to have film Africans eating the African Green Tree Monkey, also rats, a regular part of their diet with no HIV contamination there in their natural environment, but once they are taken from their natural environment into a lab…you genetically mix human tissue, chicken embryos, and at some point in that genetic sequence, if they mix improperly you can come up with something that does not resemble anything you intended and it has a life of its own. It gets into a vaccine, it gets into a specific population group, waiting for other opportunistic cofactors to bring down the persons immune system. Is that what you are telling us?
HOROWITZ: Yes indeed. In Emerging Viruses I conclude. The question I ask is it natural, accidental, or was it genocidal. I conclude definitively that these are not natural. They did not naturally evolve. They evolved in labs.
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The world is happy (especially Africans) to learn the Ebola vaccine will go to trial next year. Could not have come at a better time;
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said NIH has been working with the Food and Drug Administration to get the vaccine into early trials as soon as possible. According to NIAID, the results of the trial could come early next year.
The announcement comes the same day the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention raised its travel alert for Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone from level two to level three, warning against any nonessential travel to the region due to the Ebola epidemic. Since 2003, the agency has only issued level 3 alerts on two occasions: during the outbreak of SARS, severe acute respiratory syndrome, in 2003, and in the aftermath of the 2010 Haiti earthquake.http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/31/health/ebola-vaccine-national-institutes-of-health/index.html
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‘isolation is not a good thing’
Agreed! Neither is a full but unvaried diet such as yours, consisting of purely ‘conspiracy sites and DLP propaganda’….
And maybe you should not ‘think’ (if one can call it that), with your mouth full…
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When the mind is so conditioned to reject.it is easier for the enemy to take control..advisingly it is always better to pursue other views.
Crusoe are i saying that bbc .uk.is a conspiracy media outlet one of the many places that i referenced. ..and source info. for this issue.
WHO to take charge of Kenema bioweapons lab after riots
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*WHO to assume control of Kenema bioweapons lab
*Police deployed to guard Ebola lab after riots
*WHO places West African on Grade 3, highest emergency level
WHO and MSF are to take over the bioweapons laboratory in Kenema hospital which has been at centre of rioting and strikes because of its role in the Ebola outbreak, according to an Sierra Leone Ministry of Health and Sanitation (MoHS) announcement posted on its facebook page on Saturday.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ministry-of-Health-and-Sanitation-Sierra-Leone/281064805403702
The centre has 30 Ebola patients, states a MoHS update posted on Sunday.
The move comes after thousands marched on the lab following allegations by a former nurse that Ebola was being put into circulation deliberately.
The bioweapons lab — funded by George Soros and Bill Gates among others — has now been placed under police protection.
http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-centre-sierra-leona-under-guard-protest-march-074853768.html
It has also emerged that WHO has upgraded the Ebola emergency in West Africa to the highest level, a Grade 3, allowing WHO to assume control of critical government functions and implement forced vaccination and quarantine plans.
“The WHO Director General, Margaret Chan has upgraded the Ebola response in West Africa to a Grade 3, the highest level of any emergency response. A Grade 3 involves a multiple country event with a substantial public health consequence that requires a substantial WHO country office response and substantial international partner response. This means partners could deploy resources from other countries into the region,” states the MoHS facebook.
@Anon
Documented records show the leukemia/sarcoma/lymphoma cancer complex, never seen in humans prior to 1978, had been the primary focus of a highly funded, yet largely secret, “Special
REALLY U sure bout dat????? Are saying they are mixed into one?
MoneyBrain | August 3, 2014 at 1:27 PM |
REALLY U sure bout dat????? Are saying they are mixed into one?
NO MB HE ONLY TALKING SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS……………TE
@GP
GP U need to work on an ANTI STUPID Vaccine for some peeps pun here!
United States admits scientists injected Guatemalans with sexually transmitted diseases
JONATHAN LEMIRE
2011, 31 Aug, 09:36 AM
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The government has made the shocking admission that its 1940s-era scientists deliberately infected Guatemalans with sexually transmitted diseases – and even gave a dying woman syphilis.United States
The horrifying revelation was made this week by a panel commissioned by to investigate the dark chapter in American medical history.President Obama
More than 1,300 Guatemalans were given various STDs between 1946 and 1948 to see if the diseases could be treated with penicillin, and at least 83 people died during the trials, the panel discovered.
NO DOUBT that some people are DIABOLICAL!
We know that some SCIENTISTS are MAD! When they are close to something BIG they would stop at NOTHING to test it!
Why U think we have to have ETHICISTS for???
But also appreciate that there are JOURNALISTS quite willing to concoct stories and write books for RECOGNITION. (truth be damned)
MoneyBrain | August 3, 2014 at 1:43 PM |
@GP
GP U need to work on an ANTI STUPID Vaccine for some peeps pun here!
WE TESTING IT PUN THE IDIOT CALLED BUSH TEA WHO NOSE EVATING BOUT EVATING. HE SHOULD COME AND TALK SOME SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHE ON VIRUSES LOL MURDAH
Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?
March 26, 2009 |
newspapers are questioning whether the shocking discovery of vaccines contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus — distributed to 18 countries by the American company Baxter — were part of a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic.
Because of laboratory protocols that are routine for vaccine makers, mixing a live virus biological weapon with vaccine material by accident is virtually impossible.
Baxter flu vaccines contaminated with H5N1 (the human form of avian flu) were received by labs in the Czech Republic, Germany and Slovenia. Initially, Baxter refused to reveal how the vaccines were contaminated with H5N1, invoking “trade secrets.” After increased pressure, they then claimed that pure H5N1 batches were sent by accident.
But in the Czech Republic, reporters are investigating whether the contamination was part of a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic.
The fact that Baxter mixed the deadly H5N1 virus with a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses may be the smoking gun. The H5N1 virus on its own has killed hundreds of people, but it is less airborne. However, when combined with seasonal flu viruses, which are more easily spread, the effect could be a potent, airborne, deadly biological weapon.
Protect Your Right to Informed Consent and Defend Vaccine Exemptions
With all the uncertainty surrounding the safety and efficacy of vaccines, it’s critical to protect your right to make independent health choices and exercise voluntary informed consent to vaccination. It is urgent that everyone in America stand up and fight to protect and expand vaccine informed consent protections in state public health and employment laws. The best way to do this is to get personally involved with your state legislators and educating the leaders in your community.
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I was very skeptical about the SARS Vaccine since it was prepared very hurriedly. The WHO projected 17,000 deaths from Sars in NZ and only 11 died. TROUBLING!
Hants | August 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM |
David I am not very well educated.
No University degrees so I have to rely on Google.
I also watch about 4 to 6 hours of documentaries and news on CBC and TVO almost every day.@
Google alone make you much smarter than the fools in BIM
University degrees @ Its still better than what Shite head Beckles doing , closer to truth .
CBC alone will give you more info than even America , You are doing well Hants.And no student slave loan,
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