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Prime Minister Fruendel Stuart
Prime Minister Fruendel Stuart

At 3.53 of the video Prime Minister Freundel Stuart hints at the next BIG change which is being considered by government. He shared with the public that the International Monetary Fund (IMF) has submitted a review our tax system in response to a request from government. In short there is a view government should tax Barbadians and use the revenue  to support government programs. The idea of giving tax benefits through allowances and exemptions to Barbadians maybe on its last legs.

What the muni tax has shown us is that Barbadians are a reactive people. The tax was promised several months ago and as the Prime Minister rightly stated in the video, we have waited until the invoice landed in the mailbox to express concern. It is the same reaction to Massy signs which have dotted the Bajan landscape in recent days. It is the same Bajans who sold a significant chunk of our shares to EMERA and BNB and to Republic Bank and wondered about the decision long after the ink dried.

The government was elected to manage the affairs of the country. The citizens have the right to demand transparency and to hold elected officials accountable, it is our right to protest within the four walls of  the law. To expect 16 individuals selected from among us are possessed with all conquering knowledge that others should only passively observe is the height of stupidity of the yardfowl variety.

We have to live with change, who is denying, the government must always feel obligated to  share information with the public which will assist us to understand policies before implementation. A government cannot contemplate to dismantle our tax system and treat it as a routine transaction. A word to the wise is sufficient.


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139 responses to “Tax Benefits Maybe on the Chopping Board”


  1. @ Islandgal
    Shutting down the island would be like cutting your nose to spite your face….
    What we should do is NOT pay one shiite. Stop feeding the hog.
    Then we should pick on three DLP members – who may not be total JAs – and badger them to defect and become independent….forcing the main JA to call elections ….and hopefully Caswell would them BUP…..and we can include the defectors in the BUP arrangement ….where there will be FULL transparency.

    The damn DLP is history anyway……

    So the BIG thing is about NOT paying the shiite tax….not about shutting down the island……Wuh shiite, that would be playing into sleepy Froon’s hand ….dem ain’t got the place shut down all like now so…?
    Btw
    ….you ain’t say nuttin bout the debriefing exercise…? 🙂

    @ David
    Truth is that Barbados IS due for an serious downgrade in individual FOREX purchasing power. This is so because the Barbados dollar is SERIOUSLY overvalued.
    Since we don’t want to undergo a devaluation, the next best thing Is to reduce forex spending by serious taxation and levies.
    HOWEVER that taxation MUST be on forex spending….not on local property investments or on the productive areas.
    Shiite man…..that is basic common sense.
    -TAX cars ….1000%
    – Tax imported food 1000% …..or apply a “quality inspection and certification” charge – if you don’t have the balls to defy CARICOM
    -Tax fuel …and keep bus fares low
    – Tax overseas travel ….and UNtax visitors

    What the hell has become of common sense…?

    Only a Johnny would decide to tax land ownership, hotels, manufacturers, pensioners, widows…..while maintaining high import bills for fuels, food and other shiite….

    …no wonder those JAs could not pass the 11+…….


  2. @ Sargeant
    We have said elsewhere that Barbados should be re-defined itself from an island of 166 square miles to a nation state in geo-political terms, with overseas voting etc. We might even have an MP in parliament representing Bajans in NY, for example. This will not merely relate to taxes it could also relate to the mobilization of the resources of Bajans abroad for development, more generally.

    Presently, if Bajans leave the country for six months there seems to be a feeling that you’re less Bajan than those on the island. We know of descendant of Bajans who live in abject poverty in Florida, for example. People whose parents went there to cut canes and they have no protections from any government. You spoke about Panama. We say include everybody in this re-definition of a national strategy.

    US citizens, where ever they maybe in the world, have to file income taxes in the USA. It is said that more Bajans live abroad than at home. It that is true why can’t we become a bigger country and really punch above our weight?


  3. @ Pacha
    Sargeant is a NCO rank
    Don’t expect him to embrace such high level concepts.
    His is not to reason why
    His is but to do and die

    Yours is a brilliant concept that is also way above the heads of our politicians,,..who are not even NCO material..
    ….bunch of damn low class privates of the Dompey ilk
    ….why you think the US army kicked Dompey out…?
    He, like Stinkler and Froon, never got past the recruit stage…..


  4. the BLP yarffowls want people to believe that barbados was put on a death bed six years ago. the fact is that barbados was put on a death bed fourteen years ago.while the masses were busy creating wealth built on high debt.and nobody bother to peep out.now the grim reaper has arrived and the inevitable is staring all in the face..however to avoid or postpone..the enviroment of hostilty must be thrown out..replaced with one rooted in unselfihness one that would generate positivity .serving purpose and guaranteed long term stabilty of our country


  5. Family of 4 living in a 1 million dollar house pays $3300

    Family of 4 living in a $100,000 dollar house pays $330.

    What is wrong with this picture?

    50 room Hotel worth $10 million dollars pays $33,000. Ha 30 employees and 60 tourists per day.

    Business in Warrens owns $10 million building with 30 employees,

    Can this tax be equitable and fair?


  6. Hants
    I agree with you.
    I am hoping that this tax will be reversed. Does the Cancer Society, Diabetes Association, Heart & Stroke Foundation and these other organisations have to pay as well? Who is exempted from this tax? asking anyone who knows.


  7. Under the Act no individual or business is exempt. The MoF has the authority under the Act to authorize a refund if a case of hardship can be proved.


  8. Note

    If a waste to energy plant is built, who will get the $ from the sale of electricity generated?
    If you don’t know the answer to this then you ought to attend the little known short notice Town Hall Meeting at St Thomas Church tonight Thursday at 6.30PM


  9. Let’s hope this lawsuit becomes a reality, something told me this DLP government was going to use the new Muni tax to walk right into something illegal in their money grab…I spoke to a friend today who has had businesses in Barbados for years, his take is that the politicians just want this money to buy new mercedes and beemers for themselves while allowing bizzy to once again suck the taxpayers just like a goddamn parasite, while the black politicians take bribes and wait for bizzy to dream up the next scam……and this is a white American guy telling me this….lol

    http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/bra-could-face-lawsuit/

    let’s hope the government gets it’s ass sued…a message has to be sent somehow.


  10. Piece…….i would imagine since Dumbville has now realized he made a strategic mistake by helping to vote in this muni tax and has had a change of heart, he should also see that for him to be taken seriously by anyone he should be seen as able to recognize when the ball is in his court.

    The same can be said for Mia, if she does not use the opportunity to unseat her idiotic compadres in the DLP, she would prove once and for all that in fact the taxpayers mean nothing to her….it is being upended and they all did it to themselves when they believe that the minority business men who are parasites living off the backs of the bajan taxpayers are more important to them than the majority who are the working class and poor comprising the electorate….dumb asses all if they cannot see where all of this is leading.


  11. Well Well
    It was very good to see that the Minister heard the cries from the people. This crying should have happened ever since. But I guess that this may be the last straw that will break the camel’s back. I do not want to point any fingers. It is useless at this point. But what we have to do is never let another party do this to us. If we all stick together, and let our voices be heard they will eventually get the message.Loud and Clear.


  12. Conscious……I could not agree with you more, if Bajans will learn the art of sticking together, the corrupt politicians and business people on the island who do not have the welfare of the majority as their priority will all become unglued, it’s now up to the people as a collective.


  13. Family of 4 living in a 1 million dollar house pays $3300

    Family of 4 living in a $100,000 dollar house pays $330.

    What is wrong with this picture?

    Hants where can you buy a 3 bedroom house for $100,000.00 in Barbados?


  14. I want to see this law rescinded without any Muni version 2.0

    There has been a debate on as whether the crowd owns all lands. If one were to stop paying the land tax for the piece of the rock that is being “rented” then the ultimate owner will claim it.

    This scenario can also be extrapolated to most items where a person has to constantly pay in order to use the said item. A vehicle isn’t fully owned by the person who drives it. Paying the purchase price for the vehicle allows the person to park the vehicle wherever but not drive it on the street.


  15. Anon……. I am trying real hard to pick some sense out of what you have just written.


  16. @islandgal246

    What I’m saying is that the land can’t be used if the taxes aren’t paid.


  17. @Well Well | July 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM |

    Piece…….i would imagine since Dumbville has now realized he made a strategic mistake by helping to vote in this muni tax and has had a change of heart, he should also see that for him to be taken seriously by anyone he should be seen as able to recognize when the ball is in his court.

    The same can be said for Mia, if she does not use the opportunity to unseat her idiotic compadres in the DLP, she would prove once and for all that in fact the taxpayers mean nothing to her……………………………………………………..

    Well Well,

    Some weeks ago, I wrote that there are so many lawyers in Barbados who should challenge this law. David agreed and said the BLP has in a lot of lawyers who should take up the case. How right he was.

    Had they done this, the BLP would have been out front leading the charge for the little man.

    Now that the shit has hit the fan and the tax demands are out…………..
    everybody is screaming including the bar association. It must be hitting them hard personally and professionally. So now that the tax is hurting them, they now have a voice?

    The Stinkliar said on Sunday that all lands are Crown lands…..if this is so, why are we paying land tax and now being asked to pay a solid waste tax…………….why if we dont own the lands, the crown should be paying, not so? Why dont he keep his mouth shut? Clown!


  18. @anon July 10, 2014 at 7:38 PM “What I’m saying is that the land can’t be used if the taxes aren’t paid.”

    Clearly neither Chris, his IMF advisers, nor you anon have ever heard of

    “Seed to seed”


  19. A deeply embedded cultural practice.

    It is deeply embedded because it works.

    It keeps the State out of a family’s business.


  20. I have a bright idea let us all become squatters on the crown’s land. We won’t have to pay on cent for it.


  21. Ask one of them IMF bright boys if they know what seed to see means.


  22. ac | July 10, 2014 at 7:31 PM |
    “one of the best and most profound speeches to date”

    AC, is this the same Dr. David Estwick that was critical of his DLP administration’s fiscal management policies being pursued under the stewardship of his colleague Chris Sinckler; who publically stated the DLP was using the wrong medicine to deal with the economic problems facing the island? who has often made contradictory public statements about policies and programs of the DLP?

    AC, are you seeking refuge in a speech made by a man whose own party had to think long and hard before they gave him an audience to display his power point presentation on alternative economic policies?

    How does Estwick’s 2003 speech compare to his speeches against the DLP between 2008 and 2014? Does it not bother you that the DLP sought solutions from the IMF rather than Estwick? Does Estwick, in your opinion have any real creditability?Then why should we hold his speech in such high esteem?


  23. I want to find out, if I don’t have the money I still have to pay this Muni Tax, and when I pay this tax I would write a letter saying that I don’t have the money. You think I would get it back, and when?


  24. artexeres..the FACT is that the message is TRUth,,,as all can see daily the consequences on account of an economy built on debt ,,powered and fuel by a trickled down policy,,,the trickled has finally come to a grinding halt and …what is left is an economy saddled in high debt,,and govt having to ask taxpayers to give back,, of what they were lead to believe was rightfully theirs,,, the failures and flaws of the past BLP administration..has keep the country in grid lock and a country more than ever divided ,,,,estwick rang the bell but no one wanted to listen,,,,at a time when corrections should have been made SAD,,,,now ALL are looking for quick fixes for long term systematic problems intertwined between a dysfunctional economy and individual lives,,,,,but the TRUTH is there are NONE…….


  25. @Bush Tea
    Sargeant is a NCO rank
    Don’t expect him to embrace such high level concepts
    +++++++++++++++
    Why don’t you stick to your knitting? Writing about Brass bowls is right up your alley as you are supremely qualified to talk about a group that you apprenticed to and graduated from. Always with an opinion on any subject with bizarre conclusions and analysis a mile wide and an inch deep, just pepper your thoughts with “BBE” and “BUP” and all’s well.

    What “high level concept”? Is that the concept of overseas voting that Forbes Burnham so lovingly embraced to ensure that he would never lose an election in Guyana? That is a vote rigged in favour of whatever party holds the reins of power, Forbes made sure that Guyanese vote real or imagined from London or New York was always in his party’s favour.
    Why should people who live in Canada, USA or Britain have an MP in Barbados representing those areas? What problems can they resolve for us? That “high level concept” would only appeal to people who outsource their brain.

    There is precedent for countries billing their non- resident citizens but far from it being labelled “high level concept” It is a cash grab we can always join Eritrea and follow their example and label it a “Diaspora Tax”.


  26. The many cannot pay the muni tax and won’t pay….not one ass the gov can do if the numbers large enough…..having won that victory the concept will be applied to land tax……..then income tax etc…This gov is making the British mistake i.e Boston Tea Party. This can evolve into a full on tax revolt, the most potent form of protest against a government….. March idiots, stay home idiots as long as you pay your taxes they own your ass.


  27. Don’t worry about bizzy.
    Producing electrity from a centralised power plant will soon become obsolete. Obsolete politician keep trying to use obsolete measured to fix Barbados.

    Check the article below.

    The head of America’s second-largest energy provider hopes to make the foundation of his industry’s current business model obsolete.

    David Crane, president and CEO of NRG Energy, said as solar power, wind power and energy storage grow more efficient, and as more American homes also come to rely on cheap natural gas, energy customers will switch from buying power to generating their own through “microgrids” – perhaps in as little as 30 years.
    From article:
    Generators Will Soon Make Electric Grid an ‘Antiquated Systems’

    By Alan Neuhauser Feb 28, 2014.


  28. Solar power’s growth: why renewables are taking o…: http://youtu.be/k3kve0PV0VA


  29. To the person behind the handle, AOD,

    Some of your thoughts in your blog (at 1.01 am, July 11, 2014) are in very good stead.

    Continue to post those kinds of comment on here.

    Too, we have been saying elsewhere recently that – in the event that the government soon from now reviews and let us say too consequently alters the so-called non-existent Municipal Solid Waste Tax – the same evil wicked ideological psychological political structures and processes that gave rise to the same so-called mythical Municipal Solid Waste Tax – would still be in place unfocused upon, untouched and unscathed by the broadest majority of people in this country.

    For, it is these evil wicked rooted ideological psychological political structures processes that MUST BE DEALT with by the broadest number of people in this country.

    These structures and processes involve all TAXATION related ideas material and forces.

    Moreover, at the centre of these things is where the government of Barbados and its evil demonic tax enforcers have for a long time been hatching and conspiring more and more of their EVIL WICKED THEFT ROBBERY schemes (the various repugnant Hitlerite TAX laws/rates//bureaucracies/divide and rule ) to fascistically seize the remuneration properties of the broadest people of this country, and too have been muchly using to put/reinforce many of the same EVIL WICKED THEFT ROBBERY schemes (the various repugnant Hitlerite TAX laws/rates/bureaucracies/divide and rule tactics) in place to outrageously wrongly seize countless portions of the relevant remunerations properties of the relevant people, businesses and other entities in this country.

    And damn it – many of the remuneration properties that this fascist government/these tax enforcers end up with – DO NOT AND COULD NEVER HAVE BELONGED TO IT/THEM – BUT DULY BELONG TO THE RELEVANT PEOPLE, BUSINESSES ANY OTHER ENTITIES IN THIS COUNTRY.

    So it is these same structures and processes that have been at the CORE OF REPRODUCING AND EXPANDING SUCH HORRIFIC HORRIBLE DARKNESS AND EVIL THAT MUST NECESSARILY BE DEALT WITH ONCE AND FOR ALL IN ANY NECESSARY BID TO REMOVE SUCH DARKNESS AND EVIL FROM OUR COUNTRY AND TO CREATE A POST-TAXATION SOCIETY FOR BARBADOS.

    Indeed, these evil wicked root ideological psychological political structures and processes must be uprooted and removed once and for all from the political governmental landscape of Barbados!!

    We have already written on BU and have previously said elsewhere that if there is a time to REVOLT against TAXATION and to REVOLT against these intellectually and politically backward, bankrupt and discredited DLP and BLP in this country, it is NOW!! NOW!!

    PDC


  30. ac | July 10, 2014 at 11:14 PM |
    “artexeres..the FACT is that the message is TRUth,,,as all can see daily the consequences on account of an economy built on debt ,,powered and fuel by a trickled down policy,,,”

    How do you know it is true? do even know what GDP means and how it’s calculated? Your comments are based entirely on what DLP politicians say. You just come to BU and regurgitate what they articulate, which makes it truth, because it suits your agenda.

    In 2006, Estwick wrote a two part article in the Sunday Sun about Barbados’ economy. At that time he was arguing the island was in a debt trap and was being heard “preaching doom and gloom” (but in your opinion Estwick was factual and the only persons who are capable of preaching doom and gloom are those who are critical of the DLP). The DLP’s economic advisor, Dr. Frank Alleyne refuted Estwick’s and reports from the international financial and rating agencies indicated Barbados’s debt was sustainable, hence the low debt to GDP ratio, refuting Estwick’s “debt trap theory”.

    The TRUTH of the matter is, Dr. David Estwick is not a trained economist, he is a man who read a few books and comes out shooting his loud mouth left, right and centre. He sounded good and was appointed shadow minister of finance, being a useful tool during the build up to the 2008 general election. If his colleagues thought he was competent and credible, he would have been appointed minister of finance, and not given the half day job David Thompson accused Mia Mottley of having, when Arthur appointed her minister of economic affairs. They kept him far as possible away from the actual finance ministry, opting for individuals like Jepter Ince and Darcy Boyce, who are qualified in financial matters.

    In January 2014, Estwick sought to resurface his “economic expertise” by introducing his alternative economic plan. He was quickly subdued at the Donville Inniss house meeting. After being allowed to introduce his power point presentation, the DLP continued in cruise mode.

    The resulting events after Estwick’s escapades are indicative that he is not taken seriously as an economist by his own party. So why should anyone else.

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  32. the Truth of the matter is that it does not take a trained economist to evaluate or come to the conclusions of what mr EStwick had foreseen in the escalating of debt by the BLP and the low preference to restructuring an economy. ……any one who manages a household on borrowed debt and out of control spending can attest to mr, estwicks analysis,,,,,, His conclusions were accurate and has has proved that in a hot and volatile economic climate that having all the eggs in one basket is a recipe for disaster. The BLP interference of using what mr EStwick said in 2014 as a vote of no confidence by Estwick towards his party is like using a string to catch a bear,,,,.


  33. ac | July 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM |

    “His conclusions were accurate and has has proved that in a hot and volatile economic climate that having all the eggs in one basket is a recipe for disaster”

    ALL I WANT YOU TO DO IS ANSWER THIS QUESTION:

    IF ESTWICK WAS ACCURATE, THE DLP WOULD HAVE CONFIDENCE IN HIS ABILITY, THEN WHY IS HE NOT THE MINISTER OF FINANCE?


  34. If no one pays what can the government do?? Emancipate your minds….all uh wunna been scared into paying taxes for these parasites to pig out at the trough. Our gov doesnt earn a red cent all it does is reallocate wealth…..in the process fattening their nests and those of their cronies.


  35. let me get this right i rasshole rob you and 4 months later give you back some of the money and you is to thank me?? seriously…that is gov argument…so to the government piggies at the trough i hope all of you choke. Political class….gentlemans arrangement, so when it is your turn at the trough the opposition promises not to disturb your eatings.

    Bee Dee same thing? no be free!


  36. artexeres ,,,,,,,,,what does one issue have to do with the other estwick is entitle to his opinion……where the govt chooses to place estwick does not refute his good analytical and profound statement which clearly had pinpointed the economic slippery sole that was being created by OSA and the end result which would lead the country in turbulent waters,,,,if only the blp had listened,,,,,,take doods and kensignton ovall neither one have efficiently and effectively made a big difference in the long term financial development of our country,,,,,,what if some of those monies was actively spent on helping to bring down energy cost and reduction of our food import bill ,,and structuring a manufacturing industry that would produce local products which can be sold in international markets jamaica has done it,,,,however after fourteen long years what does barbados have to rely on in helping to bring down the debt,,,,,absolutely bothing,,,,,a pivotal point that estwick made in his statement,,to say the least it was a wasted fourteen years ,,and one that the poor must pay for,,,

  37. sunny sun shine Avatar
    sunny sun shine

    Gem of the Caribbean sea
    That was me
    Before politician started to get greedy
    Now I feel like soot
    Coming from the coal pot
    Restore me to my previous state
    The cry of my people.. they wait

  38. A Smart Individual Avatar
    A Smart Individual

    I can totally say… OWEN was never so bad to the people of Barbados. He may have had his faults but these idiots in power now are just outrageous! Protest need to start and get them out before they end this term so they can no be given their mandatory pensions for being in power for 2 full terms. Kick their asses out!

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