← Back

Your message to the BLOGMASTER was sent

Submitted by Pachamama
Will Clyde Mascoll take the spoils?
Will Clyde Mascoll take the spoils?

The Nation Newspaper today carries the essential components of an internal party memorandum from Owen Seymour Arthur (OSA) to Kerrie Symmonds. A memo which is reported to have expressed a ‘lack of confidence’ in Mia Amor Mottley (MAM) as leader of the Barbados Labour Party (BLP), the official  opposition, in the Parliament of Barbados. This comes after last fortnight’s revelations that the same OSA had called a significant policy initiative by MAM as a ‘gimmick’.  Indeed, these are amongst the most sever blows that have ever been delivered to any political leader in the history of Barbadian politics. Maybe in the history of Christendom.

Arthur’s animus towards Mottley is now clearly too deep for this party to present any semblance of a united front against a weakened Democratic Labour Party (DLP), far less play a larger role in helping the country to navigate the presently deep and widening economic circumstances. These public disclosures are indeed the tip of the iceberg of the deeply negative personal relationship between Arthur and Mottley that have built up over several years. Arthur has also expressed disappointment about the circumstances which led to Mottley’s most recent elevation to the leadership of the BLP, as happened after the elections.

Both Arthur and Mottley seem, for this moment, to be working for Fruendal Stuart and the governing Democratic Labour Party (DLP). Bobby Morris’s work, as a chief political adviser to Stuart, is being made much less difficult these days. For there is nothing that is more effective that this government could do to avoid a robust debate about the economy, than this public war of words between the titans in the BLP. A self-inflicted wound that harms the possibilities of the BLP forming the next government, as some are predicting those new elections could be expected long ahead of scheduled. Remember, we have had general elections only about six months ago. We would be the last to suggest that there is any large-scaled conspiracy between the parties involved. However, we are persuaded that factions will benefit from these events. In none of these scenarios would MAM benefit from Arthur’s escalating and public broadsides. Neither will the BLP, in the short run.

Our leanings on the experience of a renowned Caribbean political consultant have led us to the determination that OSA still feels obligated to Mascoll, who may now be free of his academic pursuits. Mascoll, as a leader of the then DLP opposition, had assisted Arthur in ways which some still consider not to have been in the interests of the then opposition DLP. For this he has paid a high price. This personal obligation deeply inspires OSA to kill two birds with a single stone. That Arthur senses that an election may very well be the only way out of the political-economic crisis which the country now faces. In those circumstances, he is ill-prepared to allow his nemesis, from within, to be allowed an open field between herself and Ilaro Court. That Arthur has determined that there are slim pickings for leadership within the BLP but will be content to have Kerrie Symmonds be a placeholder with the understanding that he (Arthur) will demit office and create the circumstances in Saint Peter for Mascoll to be then elected and thereafter assume his ‘rightly’ place at the leadership of the BLP with the help of a still numerical majority, on the opposition benches, which Arthur believes he still controls. Then a general election could be justly called, in Arthur’s mind at least. For Mia, the political undertakers are busily preparing the arrangements and we predict no set of circumstances in which she will be able to avoid their intentions or the vengeance of the god of the BLP, Owen Seymour Arthur.


Discover more from Barbados Underground

Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.

128 responses to “Owen Arthur ‘Hits’ Mia Mottley, Again – Clyde Mascoll, Clear Heir Apparent, With Kerrie Symmonds as Placeholder”


  1. @Pacha

    Simply ‘nulling’ a partisan argument.


  2. This is the thing that irks people about the DLP -Recession or no Recession–The inertia, the lack of decisive leadership. The Hunch Back of Notre Dame takes so long to make a decision or to speak on a matter that it threatens the stability of the country


  3. Pachamama | January 17, 2014 at 8:20 PM |
    @ David
    Your petticoat is showing”

    It’s a rational and truthful submission Pacha; it is your petticoat which has long dropped down.

    0

    0

    Rate This

    Quantcast


  4. The question is still left unanswered, who is the senior DLP minister who has alleged to have shipped his/her family overseas to live permanently? Is there something going down that we don’t know about?


  5. JUST ASKING on January 17, 2014 at 8:37 PM

    This is the thing that irks people about the DLP -Recession or no Recession–The inertia, the lack of decisive leadership. The Hunch Back of Notre Dame takes so long to make a decision or to speak on a matter that it threatens the stability of the country

    What is your problem ? Haven’t you realised as yet that PM Stuart is an honest man and a deep thinker rather than most of your rabble rousing colleagues in the BLP ?

    By the way answer these 2 questions for us :

    Which BLP PM stole a $ 75,000.00 cheque from his party colleagues ?
    Which BLP party leader was accused by her former leader of stealing over a $$$ million in BLP party funds ?

    We await your usual prompt response !

  6. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @Fractured BLP | January 17, 2014 at 11:37 PM |
    “Haven’t you realised as yet that PM Stuart is an honest man and a deep thinker rather than most of your rabble rousing colleagues in the BLP?”

    That has to be the biggest joke of the century. Honest men don’t tell lies neither do they keep dishonest pals as permanent backers.

    You are right about the man in one respect he is indeed a very, very ‘deeply’ profound (sorry Jack B) thinker so much so he would outlast RIP van Winkle in the arms of Morpheus while racking up the largest implementation deficit in his fairy land of “word-smithery.

    You, Fractured, instead of looking over the broken fence minding other people’s business, must whisper in his deep thinking sonorous ears while he somnambulates that the IMF does not entertain or engage in bullshit and lies especially when Ms Lagarde is just too eager to put the garden gnome in his rightful little place face down in his newly created garden of entertainment for the pending homeless and vagrants.

    You have to understand you are dealing with other people’s money they have lent you and not playing with words or little boys’ toy cars.
    The IMF is about protecting international lenders’ money (“La garde” says it all) and not into tolerating indiscipline, confusion, disobedience and disappointment the known hallmarks of the current dismal and dangerous lying party.


  7. Miller for the past six years you have continued to spew your prattle about IMF and devaluation as it pertains to the Barbadian economy.
    It is about time you go back to the canefields and rest your tired old arse like your minnion Old Onions Bag and leave the affairs of running this country to PM Stuart and his esteemed DLP team.
    Because the alternative of OSA , MAM and George Payne et al that you are constantly offering are just too TIEFFING .
    If you doubt that then ask MP Edmund Hinkson !


  8. LOL @ Miller
    Fractured got you by the balls here skippa (if ya had any 🙂 )
    Those two questions to Just Asking like dum hot….

    While you are of course correct about the PM’s lack of alacrity, and his propensity to allow shiite – like buying an abandoned hotel for $100M,; paying to knock it down; borrowing $500M to build it back; …and then GIVING IT TO A FOREIGNER who previously pissed on our front step…… Well what can a bushman say….

    But your assessment that “Honest men don’t tell lies neither do they keep dishonest pals as permanent backers” is totally flawed (as balance will no doubt point out soon)

    Everyone tells lies….
    Did you not read Zoe’s extensive thesis…?
    if a lie is defined as a deviation from the truth…the we all lie.
    If you define a lie as a deviation from what the lier THINKS to be the truth, then only the individual can really know for sure they are lying…
    ….in short, you can’t make that categorical statement that honest men don’t tell lies….

    Secondly, what is wrong with dishonest pals? Are you not pals with your other political friends? Are they not pals with you? LOL what are you saying then?…….cause we KNOW most are dishonest – so according to you, ALL, including you are dishonest.

    Anyway….even the most famous bushman kept friends with drinkers, prostitutes, traitors, and foul mouth fishermen….

    But what is your answer to those two questions from Fractured though….?
    As Bushie sees it….
    One may be able to work around an incompetent sloth….but a thief can be devastating…especially one that seeks to eavesdrop into your personal affairs…..


  9. @David
    “Politicians change their positions all the time.”

    You are missing the point. Owen Arthur has never changed his mind about the unsuitability of Mia Mottley for higher office and even during the run up to the last election, those close to him knew how he felt.
    If the BLP had won the last election, there was no way on earth that Arthur would have eased Mottley into a the PM’s chair.
    Yes, politicians change their mind but Owen’s mind is not changed and will never be about Mottley and he is warning Barbadians publicly that despite the pretty talk, Mottley is not to be trusted..

    A word to the wise.


  10. @Miller
    I know that Sir Frederick Smith is now your favourite ex politician because he expressed some views that you share.
    I think Sir Frederick is an outstanding Barbadian and founding member of the DLP whose views are to be invited and respected.

    I will never accuse him of dementia like how some of the Mottley supporters are now calling Owen Arthur a senile drunkard because Owen told Barbados that Mottley is not to be trusted.

    Are you one of those Mottley supporters Miller who is still cursing Owen?
    You came on this blog and called Arthur’s wife a power hungry Jezebel because the man called out Mottley as a fraud and proposer of gimmicks.
    You are attacking the man and his wife because he expressed an opinion.

    Shame on you Miller! That is what Barbados can expect from Mottley and her crew. Personal Attacks and intimidation.


  11. @bajanfuhlife
    If what you posit is true and she is not to be trusted then Arthur should be BLAMED for foisting Mia on us after 2008. He was the leader for 14 years and led in the last elections. Both of these should have allowed him to wiggle in his preferred choice.

    Either all the other options are lousy, or he’s weakened tremendously, or Mia has consolidated her base enough to fend of any repeats of last time. By the way, Arthur was a factor in the BLP’s defeat, a fact he should accept.

    Either way, any more outbursts from him no matter how “true” will be seen as sour grapes and she will lead from out front come hell or high water. All level of politics is about numbers, Arthur needs to work out his before he lashes out.

    2000 + 1000 + ??? = discontent at all levels

    Observing

  12. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Fractured BLP | January 18, 2014 at 4:27 AM |
    “Miller for the past six years you have continued to spew your prattle about IMF and devaluation as it pertains to the Barbadian economy.”

    Are you sure you want to be so dogmatic about your “six years” lie? Why not ask David or even Bushie the old BU hand to confirm your lying allegation?

    Put it this way Broken DLP, the miller was also wrong for the “past six years” about the layoffs and privatization but the coming days and weeks would soon prove who is right and who was misleading the poor people.
    Just wait until the Credit Suisse loan shark money disappears like the $300 million did last year and see if the Guv can turn into a magician called Midas.

    Your track record of lies and deceit is now well recorded in the annals of Bajan politics and etched permanently in the electoral landscape that would soon be the final resting place of the DLP.
    Those thousands currently on the breadline and those about to join them will never forget the DLP. Once bitten twice shy.

    It would do you good to save yourself some energy by stop attacking the miller and save your spleen and venom for the IMF officials due very shortly to take up long-term residence in Bim. Now deny that one by cussing the miller, Liar!

    PS: Do yourself another (final) favour and do like Sir Frank Alleyne. Shut your bloody trap on all matters pertaining to the economy ruined by a bunch of lying incompetents. Just go back to cussing MIA and OSA.


  13. @Balance
    @David
    We don’t have any generalized critique against David, at this time. He has led us to better understand, maybe our misinterpretation, of a small comment. We unreservedly accept his explanation and humbly withdraw. For he has done more than most over an extended period to steer clear of overt partisan prattle while giving voice to a wide range of views including the very party hacks who only see the world in either red or yellow. This however does not mean he is perfect, none of us is.

    Balance faces the danger of assuming that everybody here has to be a Bee or a Dee and that there will never be political space for others. That narrow berth, we are afraid, has long been surpassed by this writer and assumes too much.

  14. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    Bajanfuhlife | January 18, 2014 at 7:38 AM |
    I think Sir Frederick is an outstanding Barbadian and founding member of the DLP whose views are to be invited and respected.

    So do we. A man that speaks his mind and calls a spade a spade.
    Now the question to you is this: Are you going to take his genuinely concerned views into serious consideration or are you going to dismiss him as out of touch with political realities as far the 14:16 ratio stands and argue like a true political weather-hen like Maureen the current size of the Cabinet is justified given the wide-ranging responsibilities and the many policy implementation successes being realized?
    How on earth can you have such a large cabinet in such trying financial times with a contracting economy and downsizing public sector? A major paradox indeed. But your administration is all about confusion and duplicity.

    Finally, let the miller say up front that he is not impressed with the MAM/Persaud association. He, Persaud, can do nothing positive for the BLP or contribute her chances of asserting greater control over the party both in and out of Parliament.

    She needs to keep him as a private friend but do not engage him in any policy formulation or advisory role in the public square. He is damaged goods and would only bring ruin to her chances of becoming the next PM. The Four Seasons abject failure is sufficient to see his “bullshittery” in full bloom.

  15. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Pachamama | January 18, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Sorry to bring you off topic but it seems your prognostication (or is it a real fear?) of a possible pending mini ice age is being supported by scientists.
    They fear the current unusual ‘lull’ in activity of the Sun might have serious implication for weather patterns on Earth leading to a significant drop in temperatures as the jet stream in the Northern hemisphere become less effective in its warming influence.

    We need to keep track of what is going on here. The recent hurricane type activity at the North pole leading to that, euphemistically put, polar vortex ought to be something of concern to mankind. When the Thames freezes over (and Australia catches fire) that would be a sure indication of things to come.

  16. Caswell Franklyn Avatar

    Miller

    What do you mean, once bitten twice shy? You are not talking about the Bajan electorate. The DEMS have deceived us four times between 1986 and 2013 to gain the Government. Did you not read my last column in the Sunday Sun. What gives you the impression that the electorate would wise up?

    >


  17. @ The Miller
    A lot of people are still mistakenly thinking that climate change only means the planet is heating up. The truth is that we can have extremes in any direction. Like is starting to happen now. So you are right and we agree. However, there are still less than 2% out there trying to make a case that the majority of scientists and the endless observations of all of us are wrong. We seek no comfort being in any majority and are indeed used to contrarian positions, even in investments. In this case however, we are afraid the majority is right. We are as happy to be in that majority are we are in undetectable minorities.


  18. @ MillertheAnunnaki
    @David [BU]
    @Balance
    @Are We there yet
    @Bush Tea
    @ Hants
    @ BU contributors whose sterling contributions show your love of our country

    Age is supposed to bring wisdom for most persons. For a few it only brings wisdom teeth which become impacted and have to be (painfully) removed

    Having neither wisdom nor wisdom teeth, I will borrow such wisdom from the Bible.

    No gents, ladies or atheists this is not an attempt to proselyte. No, not at all, I will borrow a little of Its Wisdom to make a point.

    Matthew 7:20 (King James Version) “Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them”

    It is a very simple but practical statement which simply means that in all of the hullabaloo, where all of the gentlemen are, and the Lady is, strutting around, both sides, DLP and BLP, I have yet to see one of them step forward and, without any Eminent Committee, Avinash, or Alleyne, step up to the plate and, while using their avowed newspaper the Nation, put forward serious proposals, without any reservations, without any fear that the next side is going teif dem ideas, and state what they will do to make the country live.

    OK, this may be a naive idea but who gains if our collective ship is sinking and the BLP, embodied in Owen Seethru or Mummy why you …., purports to have the silver bullet and keeps it chambered in this hour of need?

    If the country sinks it is both DLPites and BLPites that perish after all!

    If Owen or Mia feels that they know how to pull us out of the mire, publish their solutions, work to make them happen and know that, for a majority of the Bajans now facing dire times, we at least will remember what you have done.

    Note carefully that I have not included the names of Kerrie, nor Dale Marshall, bereft as they are of any ideas worth implementing.

    When the BLP gets back in PLEAAAASSSEEEE dont bring those ejalculates of dubious efficacy back to the House of Assembly with you.

    Stop all the lotta long talk and let us see what wunna is capable of.

    Oh and since wunna know that wunna cant rust the Nation or de Advocate, send wunna plans to save our country here to BU so that a permanent record of wunna pretence to know how to save this faltering ship can be blogged permanently


  19. “Balance faces the danger of assuming that everybody here has to be a Bee or a Dee and that there will never be political space for others. That narrow berth, we are afraid, has long been surpassed by this writer and assumes too much.”
    Not necessarily Pacha, I have been labelled as well but I do not worry because I know the cap does not fit; but my view is that my moaning and groaning over internal issues in the fractured BLP to their own detriment should take second place to commentary on the mismanagement of the economy in the last six years. We seem not to want to initiate debate on the reasons for our present disastrous predicament and put the blame fairly and squarely where it lies. That is critical if we are to move forward.


  20. Doe George Griffith have a following within the party? Is he not a rejected candidate? what influence can he have at party level? The BLP in its present state need to be dissolved.

  21. NationBLPnewspaper Avatar
    NationBLPnewspaper

    If Reudon Eversley had not made recent comments which might be interpreted as critical of PM Stuart, there is no way Starcom would have invited him into a studio.
    Can we really expect to have a balanced discussion of the Owen Arthur / Mia Mottley conflict when Starcom has a panel with Peter Wickham and Reudon Eversley? Two men who are clearly not Arthur supporters.
    You add Harold Hoyte who was called a Negrocrat by Arthur.

    I am certainly not here to defend Arthur but VOB like its owner the Nation newspaper needs to be more balanced in assembling moderators, panels and columnists.

  22. NationBLPnewspaper Avatar
    NationBLPnewspaper

    Peter Wickham has already declared his hand. I do not think that he should be part of any panel claiming to be an independent voice.
    We all know how he feels about Mottley on one side as opposed to Owen Arthur and Freundel Stuart on the other.
    David Ellis and Dennis Johnson are fair but Wickham views need to be balanced by someone who does not have an axe to grind.


  23. @NationBLPpaper

    Who would your alternatives have been?

  24. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    This is a submission built on conjecture and innuendo. In other words, utter nonsense.


  25. @ Brathwaite

    We were much more charitable to you in our last comments. This is the central problem with party hacks like you. On the one hand you pretend to be interested in what is right viz a viz your previous denunciation of OSA. On the other hand however, you are so wedded to an illegal, immoral organization called the BLP that in order to protect that proscribed organization you can be easily herded to drink a colourless cool-aide.


  26. @ Brathwaite
    Again, we have looked at this piece and based on public and private information we have tried to read the politics of Barbados. We can’t pretend that everything we project is true or will be true, but it is a bit rich for you, an emotional party hack, who has just sought to protect your leader by publicly cussing OSA, to tell us that our reading is less than worthy. But it is our ready and we don’t recognize a requirement for our reading to meet some arbitrary bar set by you or anybody else. This is real problem with you pretend academic types in the Caribbean, you lack the courage to see the future. An the end of the day you are merely a party pimp and OSA will continue to undermine MAM regardless of your puerile pleadings.

  27. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @ Pachamama

    Thanks. Please note that you gave your opinions and I gave mine. Ad hominem remarks are unnecessary, but if that is your preferred style, not a problem with me. Keep well.


  28. @ Brathwaite
    Thanks for confirming our now new reading of the psychology of the classical Bajan political party pimp.

The blogmaster invites you to join and add value to the discussion.

Trending

Discover more from Barbados Underground

Subscribe now to keep reading and get access to the full archive.

Continue reading