What value should we place in the word of a Prime Minister. Should we dismiss Prime Minister Stuart’s promise as election campaign rhetoric? Should we dismiss the promise the late Prime Minister David Thompson made to CLICO policyholders? Are we finally willing to say to politicians, ENOUGH!
Read Nation article PM’s Word
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.
Its funny how the DLP supporters
back the proposal
regardless
shades of
Jim Jones followers
What does this tuitin fee and the increase in VAT has in common? the same ole rubble rousers.
@ David
Every since Mr George Payne suggested that students should sue the Government for the revised fee structure for the UWI , there has been talk about court action . This is very interesting because every student that enters The Cave Hill Campus of UWI has to enter into contract with the uwi as a condition for the completion of matriculation . So there is a written contract to which reference may be made . It was surprising that the loquacious Moderator Hinds-Layne , apparently a UWI graduate, overlooked this fact when she too made comment today about a breach of contract. The question has therefore to be asked : contract with whom? Who then will the students sue ? As a point of general observation : VOB should speak to this moderator about her manner which at times can border on being very quite brusque once the idea expressed does not find favour with her . Her treatment today of Sen Maxine McClean is a case in point. The member of Cabinet deserved better as she tried to explain the position of the Government in respect of cut backs . The situation is crying out for enlightened debate rather than the emotional hot air that is being blown around by persons like june boy and others who are shouting..go to court .
i know that those DLP fools who voted them back in to power must be crying every single day. their kids now will have no chance to feeding off the fatted cow called UWI. the #1,300 they are used to yearly has been reduced by 1/2 etc i should feel bad but i do not, i really could careless since my kids already have their degrees and i have mine…sorry to be so crude…. but the retards who voted them back in got what they deserve…we knew it was coming
Yagga Rowe | August 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM |
“THIS GOV’T CAN BE FIRED
Barbadians have the right to abolish this Government that has constantly violated their rights and elect one that will serve its needs.
So declared the Reverend Nigel Newton of the Westmoreland Church of the Nazarene yesterday in a strong sermon at the Barbados Labour Party’s (BLP ) 55th Annual Conference at the Samuel Jackman Prescod Polytechnic.
Newton also reminded citizens of their rights to rise up and rebel when their leaders became tyrannical , abused their mandate and ruled unjustly against mankind . We must denounce wrongdoing at all times . We must resist evil leaders particularly when they abuse the law to cover their mis-deeds …………………………………..”
=====================================
WHEREAS WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE WITH THE GOB
Reverend Nigel Newton of the Westmoreland Church of the Nazarene IS UNSCRIPTURAL IN HIS PRONOUNCEMENTS.
@Objectivity please
BU agrees the model for supporting UWI education is unsustainable. This has been exposed by the harsh economic conditions currently being experienced. Free education as it has been dubbed was conceived to satisfy a different period. We have our priorities wrong. Many in the so called middle clase should sell one of the SUVs or do one less trip a year. Maybe scale back n their mobile phone package. Those who can’t afford it the government has assured there is an avenue to get finance. Let us give the thing some time to work. What we all need to agree is that financing Sir Hilary’s vision cannot be financed in the normal way.
Regarding Marsha Hinds-Lane, it is an emotional time for many when dealing with the sacred cow.
What lady? Mary Sargeant, the so called Trini lady? The one who used to say that she is not a DLP and did not know David Thompson? The one who once lived in Wilson Hill, and whose father and family were from there? That Mary Sargeant that has nothing good to say about anything besides the DLP?
Given both secondary and tertiary education needs to be revised, but wholesale slashing is not the answer. There are many students at the UWI whose parents can afford to pay for their studies, however, there are many children whose parents are gardeners maids, artisans, casual labourers. Some who are at present either on short week pay or totally unemployed, who have to squeeze out a day’s pay here and there to assist their children to complete their course. The hope is that after that child has completed, he/she can uplift the family, now not only the child’s dreams have been shattered, but also that of the entire family. This child might rebel and such a child can become a problem to society, especially when he/she sees other former students of well-off families, who he used to excel above become somebody in society. There are many such children at the UWI who falls under this category. We must have a more unpartisan unit to deal with these students and not the constituentcy councils who are in the most part supporters of the DLP and hand picked by the DLP
George C. Brathwaite
What’s with this calling the woman’s name and giving out her address?
Are you trying to encourage your BLP villains to seek her out and physically destroy her?
june boy
You don’t know what you are saying.
@ CCC
No way, I would never entertain such a thought. In any event I was asking a question. If you want to say it is the same individual then she has even less to be weary of, because she no longer lives in Wilson Hill. I just thought the voice was awfully familiar.
My apologies, she can put back on her disguise and continue in the way of sending poisonous arrows with a sweet trini tongue.
George C. Brathwaite
Ok then, my apologies for misinterpreting what you wrote.
June boy,
What do the individual contracts between the students and the UWI expressly impliedly state in relationship to the matter of tuition fees, and any possible increases in the said tuition fees or any other fees?
Well, it is clear that there are only individual contracts between the students and the UWI – which is not a legal child a legal subject of the Government of Barbados!!
So how would the government become a party to any possible suits in the law courts?
On what basis would the doctrine of privity in the law of contract make that possible?
Is there significant case law in the Commonwealth to guide lawyers like Mr Douglas Trotman who may look at the likelihood of suing the UWI?
PDC
@ Objectivity please !!! | August 20, 2013 at 4:00 PM |
“The situation is crying out for enlightened debate rather than the emotional hot air that is being blown around by persons like june boy and others who are shouting..go to court .”
Excuse us please, Sir or Madam “Objectivity please” but why are you not living up to the moral and intellectually required principle your moniker is supposed to convey?
Why should Marsha Hinds-Layne be in anyway apologetic and accommodating to Senator McClean or any member of the DLP ‘cracking head and shooting people’ enforcement brigade?
Until your lying hypocritical leader comes back to the people and apologizes for purposefully misleading the people of Barbados he, along with his administration, would remain guilty as charged in the eyes of the nation regarding the UWI financial fiasco.
The PM was fully cognizant of the state of both his administration’s fiscal bind and the need to restructure the Government funding arrangement with the UWI when he made a cast iron commitment and iron clad guarantee that the university education at theUWI for first degree students will always remain free at point of delivery to all eligible Bajan students.
Or are you going to gainsay he made such undertaking of it never happening (sacrificing the sacred cow and making Bajan students pay tuition fees) under his or any other DLP administration in true Hindu fashion?
He the PM admitted he was quite aware of the non-sustainability of the current funding model but still got up in the Peoples’ Court and lied his way back to government.
Let him be honest first with himself and admit he committed a cardinal sin of lying to the people then forgiveness and apologies would be forthcoming from all quarters along with workable and agreed recommendations to ensure the UWI remains as a viable tertiary education institution with Barbados playing an important role.
If you find this call offensive so too do we find your call to admonish or victimize the VOB moderator.
“The measure of a man’s real character is what he would do if he knew he never would be found out.” ~Thomas Babington Macaulay
I’ve long believed that one believes the uncorroborated words of any politician at one’s peril and so I view the talk around the 2004 imposition of full tuition costs to the UWI students as merely fluff that hides the truly important evidence that we in Barbados are now in an almost inescapable situation that will lead to a recognition that the Barbados that we all knew and loved is now dead. To be replaced by a ghost of its former self.
Has the BU family considered that for our University Education (the sacred cow of the DLP and also the BLP) to be so savagely attacked, along with Health and some other sectors, when alternative measures were available to Government that could arguably have yielded similar monies without concomitantly and overwhelmingly disadvantaging the other DLP sacred cow (the “society”), points almost inescapably to one thing only.
The philistines that exact “conditionalities” for foreign exchange have ALREADY breached our gates.
The hapless PM, Cabinet and MoF probably had no alternative. Therefore, protests and talk on the UWI matter will soon die down until the physical presence of these extranationals is demonstrated along with their demands
Could this budget and its measures be merely a down payment to show that this government is operating in good faith with nameless puppeteers and is capable of enforcing the truly horrendous measures that might yet come when these measures fail to do the necessary?
Oops! I meant 2014 in my post above.
@Miller
Respect is due to a minister of the crown.
@ checkit-out | August 20, 2013 at 6:06 PM |
You are reading the board as it stands.
That is how the chess board has been set out. It is just left now for the pawns to play their preordained part.
Only those with intellectual insight can enter the sanctum sanctorum to witness the pending confiscation of the Bajan patrimony as expressed in the following redacted words taken from the National Anthem:
‘We (once wrote) our names on history’s page
With expectations great
Strict guardians of our heritage
Firm craftsmen of our fate’
Bajans were given a reprieve in the 1991/93 period to clean up the mess and live within their means.
Not this time around. It’s strictly payback for their leaders hubristic arrogance in the mistaken belief that god is Bajan. Ask Dr. Delisle Worrell what he has been told is in store for Bim.
Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad. Take a look at the boss man and you might just be able to identify (with the same perspicacity as you did in seeing the inevitable arrival of the IMF Trojan horse) the early stages of paranoid schizophrenia leading to delusions grandeur of a megalomaniac.
Just check it out!
@ David | August 20, 2013 at 6:32 PM |
Of course, but only when it is earned (by both sides of the political divide) and lies are not par for the course when we are dealing with people’s future livelihoods.
We shall not forget the adulation showered on Leroy Parris!
Miller here is one which I am sure you will enjoy:
Freundel Stuart walks into Republic Bank in Bridgetown to cash a cheque. As he approaches the cashier he says “Good morning, madam, could you please cash this cheque for me?”
Cashier: “It would be my pleasure, sir. Could you please show me your ID card?”
Freundel: “Truthfully I did not bring my ID with me as I didn’t think there was any need to. I am Freundel Stuart, Leader of the Government, Survivor of the Eager Eleven and Prime Minister of Trinbados.”
Cashier: “Yes, sir, I know who you are but with all the regulations and monitoring of the banks because of imposters and forgers and requirements of the Dodd/Frank legislation, I must insist on seeing your ID.”
Freundel: “Just ask anyone here at the bank who I am and they will tell you. Everybody knows who I am”
Cashier: I am sorry Mr Stuart but these are the bank rules and I must follow them”
Freundel: “I am urging you, please to cash this cheque.”
Cashier: ” Look Mr Stuart, here is an example of what we can do. One day, Sir Gary Sobers came into the bank without ID. To prove he was Sir Gary he took a cricket bat and made some beautiful shots across the bank into that narrow corridor on the far end. With those shots we knew him to be Sir Gary and cashed his cheque.”
“Another time Sydney Lopez came in without ID. He pulled out his tennis racket and made a fabulous shot whereby his tennis ball landed in my cup. With that we cashed his cheque.”
“Then we had international star Rihanna and even with her millions and without ID, she sang S.O.S .
“So Mr Prime Minister, what can you do to prove that it is you and only you, the Leader of Government , Survivor of the Eager 11 and Prime Minister of Trinabados?
Fruendel stands there thinking and thinking and finally says: “Honestly, my mind is a total blank…… there is nothing that comes to my mind. I cant think of a single thing. I have absolutely no idea what to do and I don’t have a clue.”
Cashier: “Will that be large or small bills, Mr Prime Minister…..?”
Unfortunately for me I did not hear the exchange between Maxine and Marsha.I want to disagree strongly about respect is due to Maxine.On any call in programme the gloves are off.No minister should get any preferential treatment on any call in programme because any such minister is going to be biased and political in their offering,so I make no apology for any of them getting the losing end of the discussion.As I said I did not hear the exchange but I got in late enough to hear a caller suggesting that Marsha did not allow Maxine to make her point.Now here is another moderator that is showing lots of gusto and all power to her.Like Dennis Johnson,Pat Hoyos,Nefertari and now Marsha Hinds-Lane,I can listen to independent thinkers and not biased fools who because they went to certain schools think they must either talk down to others or try to prove that because they did not go to a particular school,they are no less seized of superior knowledge and proceed to hog the discussion.
In the 60’s I used to enjoy a talk show host in Montreal named Pat Burns.He was devastating and particularly so to politicians.He would get their offices on the telephone to iron out any compalint a caller might have and he would do it while the caller is on the show all live.Politicians would avoid him like the plague.
Egypt might be an extreme example but they hold politicians liable to being hauled before the courts.Barbados is just a thoroughly ridiculous place to live nowadays.Lies and deceit and ignorance abound in the body politic.Sickos!
VERY GOOD!
MURDAH!
FULL MARKS!
EXHIBITS STRUCTURE SEQUENCE AND SUBSTANCE
REFERRING TO PRODIGAL SON
Prodigal Son | August 20, 2013 at 7:10 PM |
Oh what humour Prodigal. Bajans too slow to comprehend.
Curious
Re: Your comment at 10:20 AM
Underemployed.
Respecting a person’s rank does NOT mean you let them ride roughshod. The problem with some of you guys is you have become so politically poison that good reason has gone through the window.
On 21 August 2013 00:24, Barbados Underground
Prodigal Son | August 20, 2013 at 7:10 PM
Is that suppose to be a Joke?
Is that the best that you can come up with?
How come I am not laughing?
YOU ARE NOT LAFFING CCC BECAUSE YOUR FRONTAL LOBE DOES NOT WORK.
YOU CAN NOT CEREBRATE.
YOU CAN NOT PUT TWO TRUTHS TOGETHER.
YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO WORK OUT THAT DAN IS THE MAN IN THE VAN EVEN WITH THE PICTURES.
you too insulting though ?
cheese on bread !!!!
MillertheAnnunaki; Agreed, but I hope I’m wrong as such a thing, exacerbated by a spineless cabinet, could really put us in a spot that would take decades for recovery
I TOLD CARSON CADOGAN THAT PROTESTS WERE COMING . THEY COMING
WAIT FOR SOME NEWS TOMORROW
THE PEOPLE AINT TAKING THIS SHIT FROM THE DEMS.
FUMBLE FAKESPEARE AND PISS STINKLIAR ARE NOTHING WITHOUT THE PEOPLE OR WITHOUT THE TAXPAYERS MONEY.
THEY RECEIVED FREE UWI EDUCATION AND NOW THEY LIVING FREE OFF THE TAXPAYERS. THEY ARE NOTHING WITHOUT THE PEOPLE AND FEEL THAT THE PEOPLE OWE THEM SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY CAN TALK SHITE AND GOT A DEGREE.
Gabriel,
You did not miss anything not hearing Maxine McClean. She came on Brasstacks last week defending the government saying that the additional tax on land tax that taxpayers will have to pay is .007% and not 0.7%. She clearly did not hear or understand what the Stinkliar said. So she was wrong there.
Now today, with the government taking licks upon licks for imposing tuition fees on UWI students, she came on to spin for the government. Marsha Hinds Layne is or was a Dem prior to 2008 so I dont know what has happened to change her mind. For anyone in their right mind cannot be still supporting this government. (We all know ac and CCC are feeding on the fatted calf so they will support blindly).
Maxine wanted to hog the programme and Marsha would not let her. She was not treated as she used to treat persons who called in when she did Tell It Like It is.
Just like Kellman called in last week trying to defend the tuition fees and tried to tell Dennis Johnson the policy was still being worked on. When DJ asked him for details on the requirements for students who would need to apply for the student loan, he had the nerve to tell DJ that that is not his ministry. He run when DJ put the questions to him!
Brasstacks is not the Senate where she is large and in charge! They keep saying they got free education from cave Hill but have no qualms about keeping down the ladder for others!
Oops…..that is kicking down the ladder!
Prodigal Son | August 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Prodigal wrote this:-
“By the way, in the VOB 12. 30 news the Transport Minister went to Parliament today for a 160 million dollars supplemental. Did the Stinkliar not say last Tuesday that supplementals are now a thing of the past?
The PM said on Sunday that he will be following the economy daily to make sure we get back on track. If this 160 million was not in the budget, will this not throw everything off balance???”
I posed his question to a high ranking member of the DLP as I did not hear the radio broadcast, this is how he replied:-
“There was no such request. The supplementary was for 3.6M and it was not drawing additional funds it was moving the funds from one head to another so that it can be used to complete the work. So it was basically for accounting purposes.
this was explained during the debate so i don’t know how the media could have got it wrong.”
Prodigal Son really need to stop running with these doom and gloom stories. It is about time.
Lallu said give the measures time to work. Ohhh how patient and longsuffering for someone at the head of BCCI.
Why aren’t we supporting him?
Give the measures time.
George B: the Haimacan ‘oman that calls in VOB in full support of Owen whom she confesses to love still calls in and shows much love – noone here ridicules, condemns nor take her affection away from her nor even queried her former place of abode … wuh happun??? One Jamaican for Owen and Trini for Freundel … what a wonderful wonderful world.
just asking
There were protests in Egypt over the past few days.
What was the outcome?
CCC; Prodigal Son got the same info from the news cast that I did and we both had the same reaction related to no supplementaries coming out of the Budget. If what your high ranking member of the DLP said is accurate we were both misled by the CBC story and the words of Mr. Michael Lashley
Miller and Gabriel:
If there is oil to be brought to surface and BP B have agreed to finance it – how are we allowing the Transport Board to upgrade facilities during a recession without finding out the starting of drilling and probable return on investment.
is there a plan to increase busfares to get back monies spent in the renovations of bus terminals? By some side door and not being blatantly frank and say that the $2.00 ain’ working nuh more.
After reading Georgie P piece up there he sent me to serious thinking to understand Dan in the van picture.
checkit-out
Now let me see, Prodigal son said VOB and now you are saying CBC.
I believe Prodigal Son and not you.
CBC would never carry such a mock story.
BRIEF
In the fifties we had in lower primer in elementary schools a series of reading books.
One of the lessons has been immortalized in a calypso by Sparrow
the lesson went like this……..including the pictures
this is Dan [picture showed a man]
this is a van [picture showed a van]
Dan is the man in the van [picture showed a man (Dan) in the van]
House tackles road and building upgrades
Written by CBC NEWS Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:32
Government may embark on its multimillion dollar road work stimulus programme, announced by Finance Minister Chris Sinckler in the budget, sooner than expected.
The disclosure from St. Philip North MP and Minister of Transport and Works Michael Lashley who says some of the work will be done through public private sector partnerships.
Mr. Lashley was speaking on a money resolution to grant nearly 3.8 million dollars from the Consolidated Fund to supplement the Estimates.
The money will be used for the island’s road network programme including tenantries for which a million dollars has been allocated.
Some of the areas include Gemswick, Brereton, Marchfield and Pounder Road in St. Philip.
Also Haynes Hill, St. John, Fustic St. Lucy, Lower Burney, St. Michael, Jordans Road and Fitts Village St. James, Proute St. Thomas and many other areas in Christ Church and St. George.
And the minister also says construction and upgrades of transport board facilities and depots are in the works.
According to Mr lashley government has been reviewing a 25 million dollar proposal for redevelopment of Fairchild Street. He says the plan has to include the River Bus Terminal which according to him is now looking more like a shanty. The minister says plans for a transport board headquarters may also have to be revisited, noting that the previous administration tried to develop one before at Kendal Hill.
St. Gorge South MP Dwight Sutherland has told government to keep its road repair programmes on track and on budget.
Mr. Sutherland suggested that major road works should be more efficiently executed.
Meanwhile, Housing Minister, Denis Kellman has lauded the government for its road works programme saying it will go a long way to increase efficiency in the transportation sector.
MP for St. Thomas Cynthia Forde wants Government to deal with poor roads leading to places of interest in the country.
She says these include areas like Jack in the Box gully where work remains unfinished and Mount Hillaby.
Meanwhile Ms. Forde is calling for improved signage in places of interest and around the island.
She believes both Barbadian and visiting motorists are having problems caused by a lack of proper directions.
Opposition MP for St. George North Gline Clarke, wants the private sector to come on board with government’s road restructuring programmes.
MP for Christ Church West Central Stephen Lashley is hoping to find a way to maintain government buildings especially heritage properties.
Mr. Lashley says he took a proposal to Cabinet which was accepted, to establish a national task force for the restoration of our built heritage.
However he says funding is an issue.
And the House of Assembly is now on summer recess.
Leader of government in the Lower House, MP for Christ Church South John Boyce says the House resumes on Tuesday, October 15 at 10:00 am.
This is not news to me, I watched the CBC news.
No mention of a supplemental of $160million dollars!!!!
When are you people going to stop trying to mislead the public?
Can you believe that these people want a vacation after doing precious little.
What is meant by respect is due to a Minister of the Crown
Didn’t we live by a value system where we respect the rank a individual holds even if we we don’t the person?
@Carson C. Cadogan August 20, 2013 at 9:37 PM…just asking
There were protests in Egypt over the past few days. What was the outcome?
They cracked some heads and shoot some people (I wonder if they were acting on the advice of Ronald Jones?)
Something must be fundamentally wrong with the parliamentary system of government in Barbados when at a time of serious political economic depression in this country the House of Assembly of Barbados has gone on summer recess from August 20, 2013 to October, 15, 2013.
For almost two whole months the business of the government and others in the House of Assembly of this land will be on recess – barring a serious national governmental parliamentary emergency taking place – and which in case it can be recalled.
Surely, this is outrageously despicably too long!!
Why the hell should parliamentarians agree to the suspension of the business of the House of Assembly for so long and still get remunerated for doing virtually nothing parliamentary for that period of time? Why like heck?
Yet there are many people in Barbados who are in need of business to do in order to get some dollars to help make certain ends meet in these horrible financial times, but who would readily relish the amount of money that these fools will still get for wasting such parliamentary time and energy.
Surely, this palaver will be one of the last straws that break the camel’s back.
Again, Remove the Damned DLP and Blasted BLP!!
PDC
David you asked ac to respect Caswell because he is using his name and the rest of us monikers.
We respect that.
If a moderator is green and emotional and acted irrational to a Minister or Senator, at our age, we wait for the child to grow up. She did not curse her she wanted the Senator to hear her out just like what David Ellis and Dennis does sometimes. Brusque yes but she is learning and emotional feels an entitlement to speak that way to a caller. Just like she did most of them if not all.
Ohhh there goes your word ‘entitlement’ is that correct usage of that word? hmmmh
Just drop the respect thing nuh I respect BAF. I woould laff and laff and laff and say that got to be BAF. But you really think that if BAF dealt with Maxine on air you would be here talking bout respect a Minister … chaawwww. Come on.
Thanks Georgie.
So it is as clear as day that this refurbishment and renovation of bus terminals will result in increase busfares – probable even before the project is finished?
The blogmaster invites you to join the discussion.