A Prime Minister's Word

What value should we place in the word of a Prime Minister. Should we dismiss Prime Minister Stuart’s promise as election campaign rhetoric? Should we dismiss the promise the late Prime Minister David Thompson made to CLICO policyholders? Are we finally willing to say to politicians, ENOUGH! Read Nation article PM’s Word

What value should we place in the word of a Prime Minister. Should we dismiss Prime Minister Stuart’s promise as election campaign rhetoric? Should we dismiss the promise the late Prime Minister David Thompson made to CLICO policyholders? Are we finally willing to say to politicians, ENOUGH!

Read Nation article PM’s Word

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  • Its funny how the DLP supporters
    back the proposal
    regardless
    shades of
    Jim Jones followers

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  • What does this tuitin fee and the increase in VAT has in common? the same ole rubble rousers.

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  • Objectivity please !!!

    @ David
    Every since Mr George Payne suggested that students should sue the Government for the revised fee structure for the UWI , there has been talk about court action . This is very interesting because every student that enters The Cave Hill Campus of UWI has to enter into contract with the uwi as a condition for the completion of matriculation . So there is a written contract to which reference may be made . It was surprising that the loquacious Moderator Hinds-Layne , apparently a UWI graduate, overlooked this fact when she too made comment today about a breach of contract. The question has therefore to be asked : contract with whom? Who then will the students sue ? As a point of general observation : VOB should speak to this moderator about her manner which at times can border on being very quite brusque once the idea expressed does not find favour with her . Her treatment today of Sen Maxine McClean is a case in point. The member of Cabinet deserved better as she tried to explain the position of the Government in respect of cut backs . The situation is crying out for enlightened debate rather than the emotional hot air that is being blown around by persons like june boy and others who are shouting..go to court .

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  • Smooth Chocolate

    i know that those DLP fools who voted them back in to power must be crying every single day. their kids now will have no chance to feeding off the fatted cow called UWI. the #1,300 they are used to yearly has been reduced by 1/2 etc i should feel bad but i do not, i really could careless since my kids already have their degrees and i have mine…sorry to be so crude…. but the retards who voted them back in got what they deserve…we knew it was coming

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  • Yagga Rowe | August 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM |
    “THIS GOV’T CAN BE FIRED
    Barbadians have the right to abolish this Government that has constantly violated their rights and elect one that will serve its needs.
    So declared the Reverend Nigel Newton of the Westmoreland Church of the Nazarene yesterday in a strong sermon at the Barbados Labour Party’s (BLP ) 55th Annual Conference at the Samuel Jackman Prescod Polytechnic.

    Newton also reminded citizens of their rights to rise up and rebel when their leaders became tyrannical , abused their mandate and ruled unjustly against mankind . We must denounce wrongdoing at all times . We must resist evil leaders particularly when they abuse the law to cover their mis-deeds …………………………………..”
    =====================================
    WHEREAS WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE WITH THE GOB
    Reverend Nigel Newton of the Westmoreland Church of the Nazarene IS UNSCRIPTURAL IN HIS PRONOUNCEMENTS.

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  • @Objectivity please

    BU agrees the model for supporting UWI education is unsustainable. This has been exposed by the harsh economic conditions currently being experienced. Free education as it has been dubbed was conceived to satisfy a different period. We have our priorities wrong. Many in the so called middle clase should sell one of the SUVs or do one less trip a year. Maybe scale back n their mobile phone package. Those who can’t afford it the government has assured there is an avenue to get finance. Let us give the thing some time to work. What we all need to agree is that financing Sir Hilary’s vision cannot be financed in the normal way.

    Regarding Marsha Hinds-Lane, it is an emotional time for many when dealing with the sacred cow.

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  • George C. Brathwaite

    What lady? Mary Sargeant, the so called Trini lady? The one who used to say that she is not a DLP and did not know David Thompson? The one who once lived in Wilson Hill, and whose father and family were from there? That Mary Sargeant that has nothing good to say about anything besides the DLP?

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  • Given both secondary and tertiary education needs to be revised, but wholesale slashing is not the answer. There are many students at the UWI whose parents can afford to pay for their studies, however, there are many children whose parents are gardeners maids, artisans, casual labourers. Some who are at present either on short week pay or totally unemployed, who have to squeeze out a day’s pay here and there to assist their children to complete their course. The hope is that after that child has completed, he/she can uplift the family, now not only the child’s dreams have been shattered, but also that of the entire family. This child might rebel and such a child can become a problem to society, especially when he/she sees other former students of well-off families, who he used to excel above become somebody in society. There are many such children at the UWI who falls under this category. We must have a more unpartisan unit to deal with these students and not the constituentcy councils who are in the most part supporters of the DLP and hand picked by the DLP

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    George C. Brathwaite

    What’s with this calling the woman’s name and giving out her address?

    Are you trying to encourage your BLP villains to seek her out and physically destroy her?

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    june boy

    You don’t know what you are saying.

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  • George C. Brathwaite

    @ CCC

    No way, I would never entertain such a thought. In any event I was asking a question. If you want to say it is the same individual then she has even less to be weary of, because she no longer lives in Wilson Hill. I just thought the voice was awfully familiar.
    My apologies, she can put back on her disguise and continue in the way of sending poisonous arrows with a sweet trini tongue.

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    George C. Brathwaite

    Ok then, my apologies for misinterpreting what you wrote.

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  • June boy,

    What do the individual contracts between the students and the UWI expressly impliedly state in relationship to the matter of tuition fees, and any possible increases in the said tuition fees or any other fees?

    Well, it is clear that there are only individual contracts between the students and the UWI – which is not a legal child a legal subject of the Government of Barbados!!

    So how would the government become a party to any possible suits in the law courts?

    On what basis would the doctrine of privity in the law of contract make that possible?

    Is there significant case law in the Commonwealth to guide lawyers like Mr Douglas Trotman who may look at the likelihood of suing the UWI?

    PDC

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Objectivity please !!! | August 20, 2013 at 4:00 PM |
    “The situation is crying out for enlightened debate rather than the emotional hot air that is being blown around by persons like june boy and others who are shouting..go to court .”

    Excuse us please, Sir or Madam “Objectivity please” but why are you not living up to the moral and intellectually required principle your moniker is supposed to convey?

    Why should Marsha Hinds-Layne be in anyway apologetic and accommodating to Senator McClean or any member of the DLP ‘cracking head and shooting people’ enforcement brigade?

    Until your lying hypocritical leader comes back to the people and apologizes for purposefully misleading the people of Barbados he, along with his administration, would remain guilty as charged in the eyes of the nation regarding the UWI financial fiasco.
    The PM was fully cognizant of the state of both his administration’s fiscal bind and the need to restructure the Government funding arrangement with the UWI when he made a cast iron commitment and iron clad guarantee that the university education at theUWI for first degree students will always remain free at point of delivery to all eligible Bajan students.
    Or are you going to gainsay he made such undertaking of it never happening (sacrificing the sacred cow and making Bajan students pay tuition fees) under his or any other DLP administration in true Hindu fashion?

    He the PM admitted he was quite aware of the non-sustainability of the current funding model but still got up in the Peoples’ Court and lied his way back to government.

    Let him be honest first with himself and admit he committed a cardinal sin of lying to the people then forgiveness and apologies would be forthcoming from all quarters along with workable and agreed recommendations to ensure the UWI remains as a viable tertiary education institution with Barbados playing an important role.

    If you find this call offensive so too do we find your call to admonish or victimize the VOB moderator.

    “The measure of a man’s real character is what he would do if he knew he never would be found out.” ~Thomas Babington Macaulay

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  • I’ve long believed that one believes the uncorroborated words of any politician at one’s peril and so I view the talk around the 2004 imposition of full tuition costs to the UWI students as merely fluff that hides the truly important evidence that we in Barbados are now in an almost inescapable situation that will lead to a recognition that the Barbados that we all knew and loved is now dead. To be replaced by a ghost of its former self.

    Has the BU family considered that for our University Education (the sacred cow of the DLP and also the BLP) to be so savagely attacked, along with Health and some other sectors, when alternative measures were available to Government that could arguably have yielded similar monies without concomitantly and overwhelmingly disadvantaging the other DLP sacred cow (the “society”), points almost inescapably to one thing only.

    The philistines that exact “conditionalities” for foreign exchange have ALREADY breached our gates.

    The hapless PM, Cabinet and MoF probably had no alternative. Therefore, protests and talk on the UWI matter will soon die down until the physical presence of these extranationals is demonstrated along with their demands

    Could this budget and its measures be merely a down payment to show that this government is operating in good faith with nameless puppeteers and is capable of enforcing the truly horrendous measures that might yet come when these measures fail to do the necessary?

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  • Oops! I meant 2014 in my post above.

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  • @Miller

    Respect is due to a minister of the crown.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ checkit-out | August 20, 2013 at 6:06 PM |

    You are reading the board as it stands.
    That is how the chess board has been set out. It is just left now for the pawns to play their preordained part.

    Only those with intellectual insight can enter the sanctum sanctorum to witness the pending confiscation of the Bajan patrimony as expressed in the following redacted words taken from the National Anthem:

    ‘We (once wrote) our names on history’s page
    With expectations great
    Strict guardians of our heritage
    Firm craftsmen of our fate’

    Bajans were given a reprieve in the 1991/93 period to clean up the mess and live within their means.
    Not this time around. It’s strictly payback for their leaders hubristic arrogance in the mistaken belief that god is Bajan. Ask Dr. Delisle Worrell what he has been told is in store for Bim.

    Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad. Take a look at the boss man and you might just be able to identify (with the same perspicacity as you did in seeing the inevitable arrival of the IMF Trojan horse) the early stages of paranoid schizophrenia leading to delusions grandeur of a megalomaniac.
    Just check it out!

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ David | August 20, 2013 at 6:32 PM |

    Of course, but only when it is earned (by both sides of the political divide) and lies are not par for the course when we are dealing with people’s future livelihoods.
    We shall not forget the adulation showered on Leroy Parris!

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  • Miller here is one which I am sure you will enjoy:

    Freundel Stuart walks into Republic Bank in Bridgetown to cash a cheque. As he approaches the cashier he says “Good morning, madam, could you please cash this cheque for me?”

    Cashier: “It would be my pleasure, sir. Could you please show me your ID card?”

    Freundel: “Truthfully I did not bring my ID with me as I didn’t think there was any need to. I am Freundel Stuart, Leader of the Government, Survivor of the Eager Eleven and Prime Minister of Trinbados.”

    Cashier: “Yes, sir, I know who you are but with all the regulations and monitoring of the banks because of imposters and forgers and requirements of the Dodd/Frank legislation, I must insist on seeing your ID.”

    Freundel: “Just ask anyone here at the bank who I am and they will tell you. Everybody knows who I am”

    Cashier: I am sorry Mr Stuart but these are the bank rules and I must follow them”

    Freundel: “I am urging you, please to cash this cheque.”

    Cashier: ” Look Mr Stuart, here is an example of what we can do. One day, Sir Gary Sobers came into the bank without ID. To prove he was Sir Gary he took a cricket bat and made some beautiful shots across the bank into that narrow corridor on the far end. With those shots we knew him to be Sir Gary and cashed his cheque.”

    “Another time Sydney Lopez came in without ID. He pulled out his tennis racket and made a fabulous shot whereby his tennis ball landed in my cup. With that we cashed his cheque.”

    “Then we had international star Rihanna and even with her millions and without ID, she sang S.O.S .

    “So Mr Prime Minister, what can you do to prove that it is you and only you, the Leader of Government , Survivor of the Eager 11 and Prime Minister of Trinabados?

    Fruendel stands there thinking and thinking and finally says: “Honestly, my mind is a total blank…… there is nothing that comes to my mind. I cant think of a single thing. I have absolutely no idea what to do and I don’t have a clue.”

    Cashier: “Will that be large or small bills, Mr Prime Minister…..?”

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  • Unfortunately for me I did not hear the exchange between Maxine and Marsha.I want to disagree strongly about respect is due to Maxine.On any call in programme the gloves are off.No minister should get any preferential treatment on any call in programme because any such minister is going to be biased and political in their offering,so I make no apology for any of them getting the losing end of the discussion.As I said I did not hear the exchange but I got in late enough to hear a caller suggesting that Marsha did not allow Maxine to make her point.Now here is another moderator that is showing lots of gusto and all power to her.Like Dennis Johnson,Pat Hoyos,Nefertari and now Marsha Hinds-Lane,I can listen to independent thinkers and not biased fools who because they went to certain schools think they must either talk down to others or try to prove that because they did not go to a particular school,they are no less seized of superior knowledge and proceed to hog the discussion.
    In the 60’s I used to enjoy a talk show host in Montreal named Pat Burns.He was devastating and particularly so to politicians.He would get their offices on the telephone to iron out any compalint a caller might have and he would do it while the caller is on the show all live.Politicians would avoid him like the plague.
    Egypt might be an extreme example but they hold politicians liable to being hauled before the courts.Barbados is just a thoroughly ridiculous place to live nowadays.Lies and deceit and ignorance abound in the body politic.Sickos!

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  • VERY GOOD!
    MURDAH!
    FULL MARKS!
    EXHIBITS STRUCTURE SEQUENCE AND SUBSTANCE

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  • REFERRING TO PRODIGAL SON
    Prodigal Son | August 20, 2013 at 7:10 PM |

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  • Oh what humour Prodigal. Bajans too slow to comprehend.

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Curious

    Re: Your comment at 10:20 AM

    Underemployed.

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  • Respecting a person’s rank does NOT mean you let them ride roughshod. The problem with some of you guys is you have become so politically poison that good reason has gone through the window.

    On 21 August 2013 00:24, Barbados Underground

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    Prodigal Son | August 20, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    Is that suppose to be a Joke?

    Is that the best that you can come up with?

    How come I am not laughing?

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  • YOU ARE NOT LAFFING CCC BECAUSE YOUR FRONTAL LOBE DOES NOT WORK.

    YOU CAN NOT CEREBRATE.
    YOU CAN NOT PUT TWO TRUTHS TOGETHER.

    YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO WORK OUT THAT DAN IS THE MAN IN THE VAN EVEN WITH THE PICTURES.

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  • you too insulting though ?
    cheese on bread !!!!

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  • MillertheAnnunaki; Agreed, but I hope I’m wrong as such a thing, exacerbated by a spineless cabinet, could really put us in a spot that would take decades for recovery

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  • I TOLD CARSON CADOGAN THAT PROTESTS WERE COMING . THEY COMING

    WAIT FOR SOME NEWS TOMORROW

    THE PEOPLE AINT TAKING THIS SHIT FROM THE DEMS.
    FUMBLE FAKESPEARE AND PISS STINKLIAR ARE NOTHING WITHOUT THE PEOPLE OR WITHOUT THE TAXPAYERS MONEY.

    THEY RECEIVED FREE UWI EDUCATION AND NOW THEY LIVING FREE OFF THE TAXPAYERS. THEY ARE NOTHING WITHOUT THE PEOPLE AND FEEL THAT THE PEOPLE OWE THEM SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY CAN TALK SHITE AND GOT A DEGREE.

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  • Gabriel,

    You did not miss anything not hearing Maxine McClean. She came on Brasstacks last week defending the government saying that the additional tax on land tax that taxpayers will have to pay is .007% and not 0.7%. She clearly did not hear or understand what the Stinkliar said. So she was wrong there.

    Now today, with the government taking licks upon licks for imposing tuition fees on UWI students, she came on to spin for the government. Marsha Hinds Layne is or was a Dem prior to 2008 so I dont know what has happened to change her mind. For anyone in their right mind cannot be still supporting this government. (We all know ac and CCC are feeding on the fatted calf so they will support blindly).

    Maxine wanted to hog the programme and Marsha would not let her. She was not treated as she used to treat persons who called in when she did Tell It Like It is.

    Just like Kellman called in last week trying to defend the tuition fees and tried to tell Dennis Johnson the policy was still being worked on. When DJ asked him for details on the requirements for students who would need to apply for the student loan, he had the nerve to tell DJ that that is not his ministry. He run when DJ put the questions to him!

    Brasstacks is not the Senate where she is large and in charge! They keep saying they got free education from cave Hill but have no qualms about keeping down the ladder for others!

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  • Oops…..that is kicking down the ladder!

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    Prodigal Son | August 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM
    Prodigal wrote this:-

    “By the way, in the VOB 12. 30 news the Transport Minister went to Parliament today for a 160 million dollars supplemental. Did the Stinkliar not say last Tuesday that supplementals are now a thing of the past?

    The PM said on Sunday that he will be following the economy daily to make sure we get back on track. If this 160 million was not in the budget, will this not throw everything off balance???”

    I posed his question to a high ranking member of the DLP as I did not hear the radio broadcast, this is how he replied:-

    “There was no such request. The supplementary was for 3.6M and it was not drawing additional funds it was moving the funds from one head to another so that it can be used to complete the work. So it was basically for accounting purposes.
    this was explained during the debate so i don’t know how the media could have got it wrong.”

    Prodigal Son really need to stop running with these doom and gloom stories. It is about time.

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  • Lallu said give the measures time to work. Ohhh how patient and longsuffering for someone at the head of BCCI.

    Why aren’t we supporting him?

    Give the measures time.

    George B: the Haimacan ‘oman that calls in VOB in full support of Owen whom she confesses to love still calls in and shows much love – noone here ridicules, condemns nor take her affection away from her nor even queried her former place of abode … wuh happun??? One Jamaican for Owen and Trini for Freundel … what a wonderful wonderful world.

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    just asking

    There were protests in Egypt over the past few days.

    What was the outcome?

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  • CCC; Prodigal Son got the same info from the news cast that I did and we both had the same reaction related to no supplementaries coming out of the Budget. If what your high ranking member of the DLP said is accurate we were both misled by the CBC story and the words of Mr. Michael Lashley

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  • Miller and Gabriel:

    If there is oil to be brought to surface and BP B have agreed to finance it – how are we allowing the Transport Board to upgrade facilities during a recession without finding out the starting of drilling and probable return on investment.

    is there a plan to increase busfares to get back monies spent in the renovations of bus terminals? By some side door and not being blatantly frank and say that the $2.00 ain’ working nuh more.

    After reading Georgie P piece up there he sent me to serious thinking to understand Dan in the van picture.

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    checkit-out

    Now let me see, Prodigal son said VOB and now you are saying CBC.

    I believe Prodigal Son and not you.

    CBC would never carry such a mock story.

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  • BRIEF
    In the fifties we had in lower primer in elementary schools a series of reading books.

    One of the lessons has been immortalized in a calypso by Sparrow
    the lesson went like this……..including the pictures

    this is Dan [picture showed a man]

    this is a van [picture showed a van]

    Dan is the man in the van [picture showed a man (Dan) in the van]

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  • House tackles road and building upgrades
      Written by CBC NEWS Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:32

    Government may embark on its multimillion dollar road work stimulus programme, announced by Finance Minister Chris Sinckler in the budget, sooner than expected.
    The disclosure from St. Philip North MP and Minister of Transport and Works Michael Lashley who says some of the work will be done through public private sector partnerships.
    Mr. Lashley was speaking on a money resolution to grant nearly 3.8 million dollars from the Consolidated Fund to supplement the Estimates.
    The money will be used for the island’s road network programme including tenantries for which a million dollars has been allocated.
    Some of the areas include Gemswick, Brereton, Marchfield and Pounder Road in St. Philip.
    Also Haynes Hill, St. John, Fustic St. Lucy, Lower Burney, St. Michael, Jordans Road and Fitts Village St. James, Proute St. Thomas and many other areas in Christ Church and St. George.
    And the minister also says construction and upgrades of transport board facilities and depots are in the works.
    According to Mr lashley government has been reviewing a 25 million dollar proposal for redevelopment of Fairchild Street.  He says the plan has to include the River Bus Terminal which according to him is now looking more like a shanty.  The minister says plans for a transport board headquarters may also have to be revisited, noting that the previous administration tried to develop one before at Kendal Hill.
    St. Gorge South MP Dwight Sutherland has told government to keep its road repair programmes on track and on budget.
    Mr. Sutherland suggested that major road works should be more efficiently executed.
    Meanwhile, Housing Minister, Denis Kellman has lauded the government for its road works programme saying it will go a long way to increase efficiency in the transportation sector.
    MP for St. Thomas Cynthia Forde wants Government to deal with poor roads leading to places of interest in the country.
    She says these include areas like Jack in the Box gully where work remains unfinished and Mount Hillaby.
    Meanwhile Ms. Forde is calling for improved signage in places of interest and around the island.
    She believes both Barbadian and visiting motorists are having problems caused by a lack of proper directions.
    Opposition MP for St. George North Gline Clarke, wants the private sector to come on board with government’s road restructuring programmes.
    MP for Christ Church West Central Stephen Lashley is hoping to find a way to maintain government buildings especially heritage properties.
    Mr. Lashley says he took a proposal to Cabinet which was accepted, to establish a national task force for the restoration of our built heritage.
    However he says funding is an issue.
    And the House of Assembly is now on summer recess.
    Leader of government in the Lower House, MP for Christ Church South John Boyce says the House resumes on Tuesday, October 15 at 10:00 am.

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    This is not news to me, I watched the CBC news.

    No mention of a supplemental of $160million dollars!!!!

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    When are you people going to stop trying to mislead the public?

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  • Can you believe that these people want a vacation after doing precious little.

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  • What is meant by respect is due to a Minister of the Crown

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  • Didn’t we live by a value system where we respect the rank a individual holds even if we we don’t the person?

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  • @Carson C. Cadogan August 20, 2013 at 9:37 PM…just asking
    There were protests in Egypt over the past few days. What was the outcome?

    They cracked some heads and shoot some people (I wonder if they were acting on the advice of Ronald Jones?)

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  • Something must be fundamentally wrong with the parliamentary system of government in Barbados when at a time of serious political economic depression in this country the House of Assembly of Barbados has gone on summer recess from August 20, 2013 to October, 15, 2013.

    For almost two whole months the business of the government and others in the House of Assembly of this land will be on recess – barring a serious national governmental parliamentary emergency taking place – and which in case it can be recalled.

    Surely, this is outrageously despicably too long!!

    Why the hell should parliamentarians agree to the suspension of the business of the House of Assembly for so long and still get remunerated for doing virtually nothing parliamentary for that period of time? Why like heck?

    Yet there are many people in Barbados who are in need of business to do in order to get some dollars to help make certain ends meet in these horrible financial times, but who would readily relish the amount of money that these fools will still get for wasting such parliamentary time and energy.

    Surely, this palaver will be one of the last straws that break the camel’s back.

    Again, Remove the Damned DLP and Blasted BLP!!

    PDC

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  • David you asked ac to respect Caswell because he is using his name and the rest of us monikers.

    We respect that.

    If a moderator is green and emotional and acted irrational to a Minister or Senator, at our age, we wait for the child to grow up. She did not curse her she wanted the Senator to hear her out just like what David Ellis and Dennis does sometimes. Brusque yes but she is learning and emotional feels an entitlement to speak that way to a caller. Just like she did most of them if not all.

    Ohhh there goes your word ‘entitlement’ is that correct usage of that word? hmmmh

    Just drop the respect thing nuh I respect BAF. I woould laff and laff and laff and say that got to be BAF. But you really think that if BAF dealt with Maxine on air you would be here talking bout respect a Minister … chaawwww. Come on.

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  • Thanks Georgie.

    So it is as clear as day that this refurbishment and renovation of bus terminals will result in increase busfares – probable even before the project is finished?

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  • All the talk about protest is scaring the Government, and it seems that they fear a Barbados Spring uprising. That is the reason for all of this putrid talk starting with Ronald Jones’ cracking heads and shooting people speech. That is also why they have replaced Dottin as Commissioner of Police: they wanted someone more favourable to them in control of the police.

    From now on I will think of the PM as Freundel “Bashar al- Assad” Stuart. It seems, coming from his mouthings, that he is prepared to kill to stay in power.

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    CASWELL FRANKLYN

    Any Government worth its salt will do whatever is necessary to maintain proper order in the country.

    No matter what it takes it will suppress Terrorism.

    Egypt is a good example to note!!!!

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  • Caswell:

    We are still royalty. We flog, beat our children unmercifully, run to fire and from rain but we ain’ gine bash nuh heads, nuh heads bout hey. We rebuke the Minister and seek wisdom afterwards to understand what he meant.

    His choice of words were not usual to our palate but in context, considering the whole matter we conclude that the compassionate and stately minister could not even spray a fly with too much water lest it got into trouble breathing.

    Don’t call for worse. We are educated, law-abiding, competent workers and we will dialogue with our leaders and come up with alternatives and resolutions.

    Didn’t you hear the Pres of BCCI say to give it time? He represents the gurus.

    What measures or investors are you lining up to bring to Bim? Let us discuss alternatives, and probable investors in our economy and turn away from the violent messages to invoke startling our brothers. Let us help even though we don’t agree.

    Let the change of government be by a democratic process that we agreed to from inception.

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  • George C. Brathwaite

    @ CCC

    The DEMS are already suggesting that Cabinet will suppress dissenting and critical voices in Barbados. Already to critique is to be unpatriotic; to be legitimately offering a different or alternative view is seen to be inciting the masses. Barbadians need to read. We give up these things to our detriment. Thank God Sandiford did not bring out the police and BDF in the 1990s because we may never have lived long enough to see Barbados grow and employment creation become a standard thing. Will we allow the Stuarts and Jones and the Mara Thompson’s to so mislead us as to see the enemies in our homes and in our neighbourhoods? Is Barbados and a democratic Barbados not important?

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  • When are you people going to stop trying to mislead the public?
    carson there we go again .we have to be fair. did you ask the mof this question when he told thenation in his budget wrapup that the committee had agreedto impose tuition fees on the students?

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  • They keep saying they got free education from cave Hill but have no qualms about keeping down the ladder for others!

    can’t you see that ac and ccc are pounding this emotional line of reasoning to good effect and it is not resonating entirely with the public who are seeing it as political posturing. the opposition needs to go back to the drawing board and do their homework and bring a more philosophical approach to this far-reaching issue.

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Carson

    I don’t normally reply to your nonsense but you said:

    “Any Government worth its salt will do whatever is necessary to maintain proper order in the country.”

    I agree with that statement, however, in this case, there is no breakdown of law and order. It is only in the imagination of the Government. These feeble minded fools want so desperately to qualify for their undeserved pensions in 2016 that they would do anything to cling on to power. They have now gone so far as to suggest that this idiot opposition is plotting to bring them down by unlawful means.

    Doesn’t Mr. Stuart realise that his imbecilic speeches can be pitched up outside go Barbados and could potentially scare off the very tourist that we want to attract to help us out of this economic crisis. If you have access to the PM tell him to put a sock in it. He goes to sleep for long intervals and when he gets up to pee, he talks a whole lot of crap before going back to bed.

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  • CCC; To get a fuller grasp of the situation see the Starcom network yesterday’s news summary here
    http://vob929.ocmnet.net/vob/News/LocalNews.aspx
    I heard that, I think, yesterday.
    Both News outlets indicated that there was a supplementary that was passed yesterday. The 160 Million in the Starcom network story will have to be accessed through a supplementary unless it was passed in the earlier estimates.
    Seems like a draw. There was definitely a supplementary even though it was not for 160 million dollars, despite the talk last week of not entertaining any supplementaries and your high ranking informant, unlike an old doddering pensioner like me who mixed up the two stories, misled.

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  • Good point Caswell. All are so intent on navel gazing and losing the plot in the process.

    On 21 August 2013 10:29, Barbados Underground

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    checkit-out

    Don’t hurt your head, the bottom line IS that as usual PRODIGAL SON tried to mislead AGAIN.

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  • Objectivity please !!!

    @David
    Thanks for your reminder to “miller…” that as a Minister of the Crown Sen McClean is entitled to a certain level of respect . The same advice should be passed on to Caswell Franklyn who takes delight in calling persons who disagree with him , idiots . But tell me : what do you think of a man or woman who describes the speeches of the Prime Minister of Barbados as “imbecilic”? Do you think he could be a credible contributor to your blog ? And by the way did you hear one of the Barbados student representatives interviewed by Mrs Layne say that the payment of tuition fees will now effect especially those students WHO FAIL EXAMS AND HAVE TO DO RESITS ????? She allowed the statement to pass without comment or criticism . For the benefit of “Miller ….” let me say that a moniker like ‘Objectivity Please” is most appropriate for circumstances like the few mentioned above ..

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  • Another thing Marsha allowed to pass was the student rubbishing government’s attempt to manage its loan maturities more efficiently by floating a bond. It merited a challenge for the benefit of the public.

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  • Balance i agree with our last coment and some food for thought for the OPPOSITION. “stay far away from VOB and the Nation news cause both of them equally are guilty for the BLP LOST. the public is fed up with both of these news organizations partisians politics. Both these news outlets have given rise to the term” Emotional politics ” and the BLP is now foolishly taking it.s cue .as long as the BLP keeps hanging their hat on those two organizations to set standard they will continue to Lose.

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  • Caswell……………….I believe in karma, come 2016 there very well may be no pensions for even the government ministers to get, they better not keep their hopes up too high and ease up on the misleading and double speak, they are still very clueless as to what is really happening…………karma

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  • PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS

    Prodigal Son | August 20, 2013 at 7:10 PM | @ that was funny ,so true

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  • Can sumbody or sumbodies opray tell what is the BLP message for putting the country in what they say is “the right direction? punching holes in the DLP alternatives has weakened and the public have already tuned out. Well except for a few who are convince that radical crticism would end with a good results for the BLP.

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  • Equal Rights & Justice

    if bim want tourist ,why dont wunna hold hemp fest or de cannabis cup in barbados ,wunna aint see that de world changing, why wunna feel de ppl like Vinci and Lucia so bad ,watch strain hunters on YouTUBE

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  • @ Casswell

    The comment and sentiment “by any means necessary” is not and I repeat, not directed at the BLP.

    We have our Coards and cowards in our midst who, knowing that the will not win at the ballot, seek the next logical means, the barrel of the gun

    Enough said, I have been told to be quiet but all of the evidence is there Mr. Franklyn you only have to know who to ask about the rapid response teams, on and off, island

    If I were 45 years younger, I too would wish to be PM, BUT NOT BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY

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  • Piece……..be aware that all the power hungryism will come to naught very shortly, there are few people who are aware of the shift that has taken place, power has now become irrelevant, the want and lust for power will only lie with the unaware who will then be surgically cut off at the knees. The desire for power has been turned into an illusion.

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  • DR. THE HONOURABLE

    This blog is beautiful. It ‘have’ all kinds on it expressing their opinions biased or not in a dynamic synergy of naivety , pomp, bravado and sometimes sound analysis. Loving it ! keep it up. Kudos to all concerned

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  • millertheanunnaki

    Objectivity please !!! | August 21, 2013 at 7:55 AM |

    Listen up Objectivity please, every human being, repeat, human being, is deserving of a measure of respect. However, that person loses the right to automatic respect when he or she deliberately sets out to deceive, con or mislead the public.

    Why would a minister expect to receive respect when he or she being fully aware of the f acts of a situation or problem deliberately seeks to fool those who know no better.?

    We are putting it to you that the DLP administration is replete with liars and deceitful people. The facts stand on their own as the truth.

    It would do your conscience a world of good if you would disabuse mind of the explicit double standards you want to parade here on BU.
    Daily you refuse to decry the many accusations from the likes of CCC, ac and Bushie leveled at past BLP Cabinet members especially the Rt. Hon O S Arthur of misappropriating hundreds of millions of dollars salted away in overseas bank account and real estate acquired by way of their various corrupt dealings while holding public office.
    Now if these accusations were true why aren’t you calling for this clean full of men of integrity administration to bring charges against these so-called crooks?

    Until you demonstrate a ‘balanced’ level of real objectivity you will convince no one but your delusional self. Don’t you think the Rt. Hon Owen Arthur is deserving of similar respect as any other current minister of the crown? Or do you find it objectively acceptable to denigrate, vilify and assassinate the character of a man that served this country as PM for 14 years?
    Please do your moniker a favour and call to account the likes of CCC and ac with equal vigour of criticism and we would be prepared to grant the appropriate level of respect to your existing ministerial misfits.

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  • Miller instead of reigning terror on DLP supporters why don.t u called your BLP camp and tell them to get their house in order. A way to start is to let the People know their solutions for this economic doldrums .it would go a long way in helping to restore their credibilty cause after there last reign there is absolutely nothing left of integrity from them to be desired. AS of now the lousy PR of calling PM stuart a LIAR is not working.tell them such behaviuor should be left to the BLP yardfowls .

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  • DLP hardears
    dont listen
    they were told before
    spending too much
    made excuses// explain away
    Opposition not the Government
    DLP yardfowls cant have it both ways

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  • what solutions”
    arrogant assholes
    should have consulted
    before budget
    if they wanted solutions
    want a solution -ac
    —-Fire the GOV’T

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  • Objectivity please !!!

    @ Miller .
    you obviously have plenty time to reply in the manner above to every comment made on the blog ….I DO NOT. Your professed erudition should allow you to compare the contribution of an UNKNOWN , UNIDENTIFIED .blogger like CCC , AC , MILLER…et al with that of a PAID , IDENTIFIED talk show host on a radio programme like Mrs Layne who is well placed and makes a valiant effort at influencing public opinion . There is absolutely no need for me to engage in the kind of facetious verbiage of which there is a perfect example in your post to go any further to make the point . I SHALL NOT RESPOND FURTHER ….

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  • By Jove this is about ten times on various blogs that I see the same character begging some bloggers,those with obvious intelligence,to give some solutions to the DLP on the proper and efficient running of a Government.Holy cow!I thought that particular blogger known for spouting miasmic abuse left right and centre appears so bereft of ideas like the DLP elite, had all the answers for taking the country out and forward to the promised land of visionary eminence and status in things worldly.But how can one expect dangerous,dimwitted and deluded menaces like Stuart,Sinckler,Boyce,Ince,Estwick,Jones and their cohorts in and outside Parliament to punch above their weight!Impossible,so let them all find thier own way.Wunna prep boys!We is upper 6.Wunna stan dung day and stop lookin for manna from heaven.Its only for the select!

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | August 21, 2013 at 4:08 PM |

    May we kindly remind you that the BLP is NOT the government of the day.
    When the BLP forms the government we will be just as vociferous in our criticisms should they make decisions that are not in the interest of the people but and inimical to proper governance in keeping with a 21st Century democracy occupied by people who like to boast how educated they are and would even go to the ends of the earth in protecting their much revered sacred cow call free university education.

    A University education ought to be the gold standard of aspiration for any third world country. An asset that should be valued but used as a blessing from above to help your fellow man to improve his lot and ease the burden that must be carried during the journey called life.

    Unless you ac take stock of your moral inventory and stop blindly supporting an administration that finds it rather easy to lie and to be deceitful with no remorse of even admitting they had it wrong in promising the naïve people they would always be entitled to dream an impossible dream of a free university education at first degree level then you are no more than a hypocrite and a lying fake.

    You could therefore be considered in the same light that your favourite Lord and Master Jesus described in the analogy of a rich person finding it more difficult to enter the kingdom of your God than a camel can pass through the eye of a needle therefore making it totally impossible for a liar of your quality to ever pass through the pearly gates by a man who knows liars like his own self.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Objectivity please !!! | August 21, 2013 at 5:11 PM |
    “I SHALL NOT RESPOND FURTHER ….”

    Thank you! We shall always be most graciously magnanimous in our treatment of those who raise a white flag.

    But please, could you objectivley explain to someone else what you mean in your reference to Marshsa Hinds-Layne?
    We presume you would soon be attacking your own kith and kin in Nefertiti, sorry, Nefatari the great “daughter” not wife of “Ramesses” Caddle for being outspokenly rash for her constructive criticism of what she sees as anathema to her great father’s hallowed memory and selfless contribution to the DLP of yesteryear.

    The real DLP of the people and not an instrument or vehicle for evil “educated” black men to get rich and in true iconoclastic style destroy a legacy which represented the epitome of what is meant to be a black beautiful educated proud Barbadian capable of travelling to the four corners of the Earth and quietly shout “I am Bajan fuy real!”.

    PS: Since you have come to the stark realisation of whom or what you are up against, just say adieu and Good night , Sweetheart!

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  • Objectivity Please

    In response to your comment at 7:55 am.

    You have me all wrong, I don’t call people that disagree with me “idiots” just because they disagree with me. I call people idiots who are idiots it is only coincidental that they disagree.

    That said, I will move on to what I want to say.

    This post is entitled, “A Prime Minister’s Word”. Have you all realised that this PM’s word cannot be trusted? He changes his position depending on who he thinks is listening.

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  • It seems that a man’s word is no longer his bond
    That is why we must always respect the decision of Bree St John when the evil conniving richie haynes just to win the 86 election.

    I am sure that we all remember the consequences of that decision from 91-94.

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  • miller,

    As soon as you hit Dems with truth and logic, they run. They run when they realise people can see through their bullshit. Ac and CCC are the exceptions, they will go down with the sinking ship.

    I questioned an ambulance dispatcher today and asked why it took so long for an ambulance to just get down to the market for the lady who was brutally murdered yesterday. The person said………………we did not have an ambulance to send. only two government ambulances are working.

    This is serious indictment on this DLP government who fool their low information supporters that they are the party of the poor man. Look how they are treating the poor man. The well off can get to FMH or Sandy Crest or Elcourt Clinic or pay for a private ambulance. The poor will die like this lady did waiting on an ambulance.

    It will only get worse with this 35 million dollar cut. But in the meanwhile, the football tournament to honour the disgraced king goes on as well as constituency councils to keep a yardfowl like CCC with a paycheck every month!

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  • My nose biting me … somebody call my name ’bout hey and I purposely don’ get involved in polical diatribe … Who ever it is, I beggin’ yah, lef me out ah dis one hear …

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  • It will only get worse with this 35 million dollar cut. But in the meanwhile, the football tournament to honour the disgraced king goes on as well as constituency councils to keep a yardfowl like CCC with a paycheck every month!
    ——————————
    SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS COUNTRY.

    RONALD JONES TALK ABOUT CRACKING HEADS WAS NOT MADE IN ISOLATION.
    PEOPLE WILL REACT. THIS IS A DIFFERENT TIME. PEOPLE FEEL BETRAYED BY THIS GOVERNMENT. AS SURE AS THE SUN RISES IN THE EAST, SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN BARBADOS

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  • I have been waiting for someone to make the connection because it is as plain to see as the nose on on Freundel’s face; the Opposition came out and rubbed shoulders with the vendors on Swan Street, and before you know it the Police are out there rubbing shoulders with them too. Coincidence? I think not but I am open to someone setting the record straight. From where I stand, it seems as though the Police are being used to enforce a partisan political agenda. Again, I must ask: Is this the real reason for the unceremonious removal of Dottin from the post of Commissioner? With all due respect, I am just asking. (apologies to Just Asking)

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  • A spokesman indicated yesterday that the vendors association (BARVEN) and the Police agreed to have a meeting to discuss the matter BUT to their surprise there was the clamp down on wayside act ivies by the Police. Another case of a broken word? DO not expect in Barbados for the authority to issue a public statement to clarify the matter.

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  • Caswell,

    I will not say that it serves the vendors right, suffice to say that they overwhelmingly voted for this wicked, inept, incompetent government.

    Elections have consequences. I distinctly remember Mr Alexander decrying the BLP and saying how things will now be better under the DLP.

    Just a few weeks ago, the governor of the Central Bank told people that they will have to find things to go out there and sell. There are so many vendors in Bridgetown, I wonder how they make a living. One vendor said the government has not been giving licences so I guess a lot of them are without licences. Poor vendors!

    All these actions of this government against the poor black man that the Dems fool them with the nonsense that the DLP is their champion, will sure hurt them. Crack heads and shoot some people if they don’t comply!

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  • Caswell and Prodigal u guys not convincing intelligent bajans that the govt is taking advantage of the poor. are u the same people who says the image of bridgetown needs a makeover and in more ways than one the vendors peddling their wares on the sidewalk might be more of a hindrance than a help when it comes to a tourist destination like Barbados. i meaning there is a method to how things are done and properly executed as not to stand in any ones way whereas to impede or stiffle progress.

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  • @ Caswell Franklyn..
    Imagine you drawing attention to a black man’s nose ! you are the pits .. and need to be exposed for what you are : an empty headed bag of nothing …The PM’S nose as you point out is easy to see ; the size of your brain has been fortunately concealed but we can still gauge how empty you are .

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  • Strange logic on the Brasstacks show
    Some people behave as though
    politicians are Gods.
    we have some strange people in B’DOS.
    with strange logic
    Jonestown/Jim Jones-Syndrome

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  • Caswell seems to be the lightening rod for you Dems. Poor soul, he upsets you Dems and rattles you, not so? Does he not have a right to say what he wants just as you have the right to say what you want about him? You Dems are so thin skinned but can dish out all kinds of nastiness against anyone who does not agree with this wicked, inept and incompetent government.

    Instead of you attacking Caswell, you would do better to tell us the true status of the PM’s health. Is it true that he is having difficulty climbing the stairs of Illaro Court hence the $812,000 supplemental to build a canopy and install an elevator?

    Grow up!

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  • Sinckler has admitted that the real problems in our country are threefold and he is correct.Firstly,there is a huge distrust of the Administration leading to a lack of confidence by LOCAL and FOREIGN investors, it its ability to govern and take the country forward.It seems to him to explain the flight of capital at the rate of just over $3.2million per day.
    The second thing is that he has admitted that rampant and irresponsible expenditure resulting in huge budget deficits and unsustainable debt levels
    cannot continue.
    The third thing is that former Minister Hutson was asleep(one would have thought it was Boyce at Transport & Works who was always asleep watching TV all day)on the job and failed to facilitate the International Business Corporations’ investment portfolio by making it easier to do business in Barbados;the good folk of St James Central took care to remove him.
    Now that it is public knowledge,perhaps the mighty PM will take action as promised,not that we can take anything he says as gospel.Morning and evening
    talk don’t gell.
    So there you have it DLP.Address and resolve the lack of confidence shown by investors,rein in unproductive expenditure and expand and accomodate IBC’s.
    My advice is a fourth item.Spend some dollars on the Tourism product instead of a new sugar factory for 20k tonne of sugarcane

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Prodigal Son

    I don’t worry about the abuse; that’s all they know how to do well. The truth hurts and that’s why I am a target.

    Some of them went to UWI and did not pass a single course but they were passed because they and their lecturers were DEMS. That is also a major part of the problem facing the country: UWI Cave Hill betrayed this country and its reputation and now their idiot graduates can’t handle the job that they are qualified on paper only to do.

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  • So……………i have been hearing for years of the abuse at UWI regarding issuance of degrees, everything is now tainted and corrupted with politics and the stench of political affiliations, what a shame.

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  • @ Prodigal “I questioned an ambulance dispatcher today and asked why it took so long for an ambulance to just get down to the market for the lady who was brutally murdered yesterday. The person said………………we did not have an ambulance to send. only two government ambulances are working.”

    Prodigal is this new? Didn’t Owen tell the operator at the Ambulance Service as PM that he only wanted one when she advised the caller that there were only two working?

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  • @ those concerned about ambulances

    Buy shite ambulances, buses and Suzuki motors piss poor Subarus as police cars and expect that, in a few seconds as it takes Chris Sinckliar to tell a lie, them gine break down and be unavailable for use

    Of course wid all the kick backs that data processing officers and the chief accountant and CEO getting at there respective government departments you and I can’t seriously expect to have quality vehicles around the place

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  • @Caswell

    It is either one of two things

    If during one of these “rubbing shoulders wid de people” an incident is “perpetrated” and someone or several people get hurt, as is the plan, tell me where all your imputed concern about Barven rights will feature?

    So it is either (a) you are honestly unaware of what is brewing or (b) you are “in the know”

    For a man who has access to so many confidential bits of info Caswell I find it hard to understand how you have not been able to source information from someone in the Defence Force and to see the noted presence of the Coast Guard up and down the Carenage etc and the rapid response units

    I’ll tell you what Caswell, Ask Payne. Coups and aborted coups don’t inspire visitor confidence nor investor confidence anywhere in the world and barring We Jonesing, it i has been well managed

    An ole fart like me would have managed it differently, I would have exposed them all and let the chips fall where they will. You would have had international fallout but the support that ** and ** would have given you would be greater that what it is now, after all they stand to gain by not having any summers of discontent in their backyard

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