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Submitted by William Skinner
Clyde Mascoll, BLP spokesman of economic matters deemed a liability
Clyde Mascoll, BLP spokesman on economic matters deemed a liability

Many years ago, during the turbulent years of political rivalry between Edward Saga and Michael Manley, in Jamaica, there was a very violent election and at the end it was dubbed: ”elections that people lose”. Sometimes, the only victors are the politicians and their lackeys. The victory of the Democratic Labour Party is a victory for Prime Minister Freundel Stuart. The jury will be out for sometime as to whether it was a victory for the people.

This election clearly demonstrated that the fed-up level, with both the Barbados Labour Party and the Democratic Labour party is rising; the electorate, caught between a rock and a hard place, decided that the money offered “to be put back in their pockets’ by the Barbados Labour Party, was not enough to convince them that they should bring the Bees back into office. They worried about the transport being privatized and pensioners having to pay bus fares; they worried about the Sanitation Services being privatized and having to pay for garbage removal. A people under the heavy yoke of a recession, that is not going away, are very circumspect. So, Stuart went out there and reminded them about schools that the Democratic Labour Party built and told the voters that while money in their pockets is good, their character and understanding the value of a vote is more important. A less colourful but more effective message in the end.

On the other hand Owen Arthur did his best to convince the voters that he could revitalize the economy. Unfortunately for Arthur, he depended on a non-candidate, economist Clyde Mascoll, to be his real messenger. I have posited many times that Mascoll, his scholarship notwithstanding, is a political liability and that his credibility as a politician is a real issue. Having Mascoll headline platforms was a political blunder of monumental promotions, taking into consideration that Mia Mottley seemed to have been pushed aside. In all fairness to Arthur he tried but he was also leading very new candidates some of whom were selected during Mottley’s tenure as opposition leader.

In the final analysis, when stripped of all the talk about Wickham’s polls and the CLICO debacle, this election was basically free of any serious discourse. The failure of Arthur and Stuart to have a public debate was a grave and deliberate insult to the electorate. That showed that they were not taking the populace very seriously. We were subjected to some of the vilest and most embarrassing nonsense ever heard on political platforms from both parties. We learnt that the thirty candidates had not grasped anything about the new world economic order brought on by the crippling recession. We were treated to nothing more than entertainment. The parties, rather than seriously engage each other, opted for presentation and no content.

It was not a violent campaign and many will honestly conclude that the close margin was a victory for the people. I respectfully submit that thinking citizens are still waiting on a real debate about how to carry Barbados forward. The only thing that the close outcome proved is that the BLP/DLP is very close in every respect. I was told by one of our most influential politicians that the House of assembly is a “club”. And that is why I contend that we have a sophisticated one party state. Why not use this numerical closeness to form a government of national reconstruction?

However, unlike the election mentioned at the beginning, there were no acts of violence and while the wearing of yellow and red is starting to bother some; I opine that if we cannot put on a tee shirt of our party’s choice, we are really in a bad place. Quite frankly I prefer the tee shirts to the violence on my ears emanating from mouths quite unfamiliar with public speaking and equally unfamiliar with the real issues. From that point a view it was indeed an election that people lose.


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  1. What bothers me is why a former MP would stoop so low as to misinform the electorate by presenting false documentation on a political platform in a desperate effort to wrangle a seat from a candidate. I sat in horror watching documents that were altered being presented in one St. James constituency. These documents bore absolutely no resemblance to the ones registered at the corporate registry.A gullible electorate could have believed this gutter attack, What redress would this candidate have? Well maybe winning a defamation lawsuit…but by then the seat would have been lost. I for one will never ever support that party again and believe you me..none of my close family or extended family will bless them with a vote.


  2. My concern is that we are getting to the point where general elections will be decided by PHOTO COPIER. Anyone can get on a platform and produce a photo copied document at a given point in time, as EVIDENCE of wrong-doing. The accused in seeking redress can only do so some time later, by then the damage is done.

    Another point of interest, Bajans must ask themselves if the sums reported to have been paid to buy votes is true. Common sense tells us that exercise can only be worthwhile to the candidate, if he/she can recoup that money several times over. How will he/she recoup, certainly not from his/her Parliamentary salary. Is it from the Public purse, taxpayers or from bribes which disadvantage the general public, as businesses often factor in “any” expenditure involved in a venture.

    Post election it would be good if BLP supporters just admitted they have lost and look at their Party, rather than continue to focus on negativity in the DLP who have won.

    I make no accusation here, but it would be sad if OPINION POLLS are seen to be used, not to register the suggested preferences of the electorate, to well formulated questions, but as instruments to MANIPULATE and distort a too receptive public.

    The media must give balance in the selection of PHOTOGRAPHIC IMAGES. It was not by chance positional images of the DLP meetings were so unbalanced in comparison with the BLP’s.

    This was a remarkable victory by Prime Minister Freundel Stuart and the DLP team, what was perceived as a weakness, the Prime Minister, proved to be their greatest strength. A man of the people, one of substance and most important a man of INTEGRITY, a combination that proved too strong for the opposition BLP.


  3. @Yardbroom

    It is academic now and the analysis is being done but BU is leaning towards the view (expressed by Hartley Henry) we had 30 by-elections. In explains why the swing box by box was so inconsistent ie. There was no national swing. To say Stuart is seen as a man of the people is stretching it.


  4. @ David
    Prime Minister Stuart Is leader of the DLP they won the largest percentage of the public vote, they won the most Parliamentary seats.
    I said the only Poll that really matters is the one on election day. . that is a matter of record.
    They WON.


  5. the biggest physchological blow in the argument of winners and losers is the FACT that PM STUART BEAT OSA. NO argument there plain and simple ,How sweet it is . BITTER Pill for the BEES to swallow .


  6. @Yardbroom

    You are being simplistic in your analysis, of course he won but it is established that Stuart did not have a long coat tail in this election which explains for example why Byer-Suckoo did not win.

    Regarding the popular vote here is an example to show how using stats must be done with relevance. Dennis Kellman and Mara Thompson between them won their seats by about 3,500 votes margin, the DLP won the popular vote by about 7000 votes (???). Do you see the point.

    By the way Yardbroom, no need to shout with caps, we are having a civil discussion.


  7. On an even more serious note, I understand the PM has has a health issue in the last 2 days, let’s hope this does not make an already very chaotic situation become more of a problem.


  8. This was a fantastic victory crafted by Fruendel Stuart. It was nail biting down to wire stuff the kind that is the sweetest of all. It broke the hearts of the BLP. It was hard fought no quarter asked no quarter given. Its a shame Tannis barely lost and Suckoo stunned us by losing to a no name candidate but in the end Fruendel won big time.

    The BLP yardfowls are the sorest losers none have been gracious in defeat if they dont change their ways they are looking at another cut ass in 2017/2018. Owen Arthur failed spectacularly after predicting to the world for over two years he would send Fruendel and the Dees packing. The man had the audacity to arrogantly call for an election which he lost. What a disgrace he must be gutted all now.

    Its an insult to thinking Barbadians that the likes of the runt George Payne and Dale Marshall who bring nothing to parliament except suspicion they are corrupt (especially Payne remember Barrack) were not whipped.

    This was a victory made in heaven against all odds a vindication of Red Sea parting proportions for the scholar philosopher intellectual Freundel Jerome Stuart. Things will improve for Barbadians in the coming years we are a strong, resilient and as this election has shown a thinking people. Congratulations Democratic Labour Party. God Bless Barbados.


  9. @Dora D. King

    Can you be specific about which documents were tampered?


  10. @Fearless

    Take this as a final warning to stop using multiple monikers. You always come to BU to mislead. All and sundry know that Esther and Dwight grew up in St. George. Dwight is the son of Louise Tull’s right hand man back in the day. The name Sutherland is well known in St. George and especially Ellerton and surrounding areas.


  11. @ David
    You will recall I wrote that because the Poll said the BLP would win because of a supposed swing, that did not mean “it was so” or make it so, “the only poll that matters is the one on election day”. You replied that the: “Cadres Poll has a good record and has been right in the past”.

    I concluded from the evidence, on questions asked, imagery in the media and the Poll on Alexandra things were not as they seemed to the casual eye.

    Some have become fixated with the opinions of others. We should analyse situations and draw our own conclusions. If it is that others even from a different perspective arrive at the same conclusions, brilliant!! but it is important that the opinions we express have been arrived at through our own heads, through processes that give them meaning in our own heads. Then the opinions we express are our own, even if reinforced by others however illustrious or not they may be.
    – – – – –
    I am not and have never been of the opinion that ONE word for emphasis in a sentence in communication on a Blog in capitals is shouting of a type as you have described. “My analysis is not simplistic” the Fact is some people have backed the wrong horse and find it difficult to come to terms with that situation.

    A leader of a Party has not got to win “every seat in the country”, to be well thought of, even if the BLP had won it would have been difficult to win St. Lucy or displace Mara Thompson. . . those are just facts.


  12. @David | February 24, 2013 at 8:30 AM |

    Behave yourself be gracious lol your slip is showing.


  13. @Yardbroom

    BU joined others to agree that CADRES poll predictions have been correct in the past. What seems to be coming out this time around is that the CADRES model is flawed when the result is close. For those who accept the science of polling it will be interesting to see how CADRES responds.

    You should note that both parties conduct internal polling to measure/judge public opinion to inform strategy/tactics.


  14. @Fearless

    And remember it will always show when posters like you try to be dishonest by through the use of manipulating and dishonesty. Remember it is why you good friend Onions have had trouble posting sometimes.


  15. @ David
    You run a Blog which has given an avenue of expression to many Barbadians and that in itself cannot be faulted.
    I will let this matter rest.


  16. Personally I don’t see how both parties DLP and BLP being rejected by 40% of the electorate being anything to gloat or boast about. It appears childish and can be attributed to persons lacking vision.


  17. @Yardbroom

    Thanks and the BU household subscribes to the view that to whom much is given much is expected. We do not take the job lightly.

    Now to the partial thrust of the submission, whither Clyde Mascoll?


  18. When observers who monitored the election are now calling it peculiar, that is not a flattering word to describe an election. Now the chips will fall where they may.


  19. the only thing the BEES should be concerned with is how OSA gonna deal with the leadership issue of the BLP given that his Party lost with him as LEADER. this is a big blow and one that needs to be adress . it can also destroy what little gains the BLP had recovered over the past months after the decapitation of MIA. this is going to be interesting stuff to watch. One one hand OSA rejection by the voters means that a leadership crisis is visibly on the horizon.


  20. what do leading economist and WICKHAM have in common! DiSHONESTY ! GREED ! and SELFINTEREST! and the uncanny ability to withhold the TRUTH even when it is smacking them over the face. Here after postelection the same factors that have revealed themselves post the economic meltdown are the same factors that have revealed themselves when one analysis the DREADED WICKHAM POLL


  21. Again for people who go with the science of polling the result of the election fell within the -/+5 margin of error. To Wickham’s regret the result was at the higher end of the range. What he will have to do is adjust the methodology he uses to measure swing analysis bearing in mind he does not do constituency polling because he believes Barbados is too small. His believe has been shattered by this poll.

    A disclaimer:
    BU does not associate itself with the comment by commenter ac just posted.


  22. Is now a good time for a third way, a new political party with an emphasis on serious social and economic issues, one that sets out to distinguish itself on ideological grounds, and not ones of personality; a party that will inject an ethical and moral foundation at the heart of Barbadian politics?
    There may well be a general election quite soon, given the horse trading that will take place if, for example, Stuart fails to deal adequately with the remnants of the Eager Eleven.
    Where are the modern Young Turks?


  23. @Hal

    The Young Turks have not gone anywhere simply that they have become intoxicated by the taste of sweet consumption.


  24. @David.
    I agree with Doris. I am living in Canada temporrily and I was able to observe platform speeches from both parties. I was shocked, ashamed and disgusted by the same portrayal of “documents” in which one candidate from the other side was accused of infelicities, and the documents were supposed to show his”charges”. It was being downright dishonest because the casess had been dismissed years ago. so to try to give the people who, in the main would not have been aware of the outcome was offensive to me. Re. the polls, what many people die not seem to consider (I didn’t hear it being discussed before or after the election) was the high number of undecideds who may have been influenced by the last CADRES poll, which might have galvanised “sleeping” members of one party to go out and vote.Prime Minister Stuart must be congratulated for showing that the majority of people respect his way of handling issues; this is shown by the margin by which the DLP won the majority of popular votes. All in all a satisfactory conclusion, wspecially among those living in North America. Among these there was much trepidation at the thought of a return by the BLP.. ,


  25. Unfortunately, the modern turks if they are associated with any of the two parties may be just as tunnel visioned and brainwashed as the party faithfuls, therefore retarding any positive changes that may benefit the electorate. The whole political landscape in Bim is now at a crossroad. Let’s just pray that the ones who are being paid by the taxpayers take the correct direction and start doing there jobs.


  26. Their jobs, sorry.


  27. @Alvin

    Cummins

    What popular vote? The DLP had a 7000 edge of which 3500 votes can be attributed to Mara Thompson and Denis Kellman.

    On the Inniss issue several questions were asked of him to which he denied many if not all of them. Not good enough. There are questions to be answered.


  28. how can one forget when the global melt down presented itself and the poor was left holding the bag while the rich who knew what was about to happen look after themselves leaving the poor to bale out the same financials which they had robbed and lotted then turn around and blame it on the poor and the housing crisis . the poor have always been the exploited as with this wickham poll which was used to manipulate the masses and the unsuspecting. BTW David i have been expecting a not so good response from you after this election and your demeaner says it all over the past days.


  29. @ Well, Well

    By definition, if they do not see the need for change then they are not Young Turks. We want people independent enough of spirit to see that country comes before party or self-promotion.
    Two key questions must be asked: what would a BLP government under Arthur have done that could not been done in the 14 years of government?
    And, what will a DLP government under Stuart, with Sinckler as minister of finance, and de Lisle Worrell at the central bank, do that they could not do during the last five years?
    The answers will determine the next five years of political leadership in Barbados.
    Is now the right time for Arthur to resign from the front bench of his party and the leadership, or even from parliament? Should Stuart carry out s radical overhaul of his front bench ministers?
    Equally, do we need a new publication in Barbados, digital or print, which treats the nation as intelligent people?


  30. The electorate I think has shown a great level of heightened intelligence in pushing both parties into that corner of which you now allude. The onus is now on the above mentioned politicians to show the electorate that they have a heightened level of intelligence to do all the right things and show us that they have grown above their self-serving ways. The party first mentality has become quite a turn off for young turks who have a lot of offer.


  31. Anything less than what is currently expected by the electorate from these two parties, will see them both punished very severely in the next five years


  32. if arthur resigns and rightfully so. there would be a firestrom in the BLP for leadership. this problem could have easily been resolved if the BEES Voters were not self centred and bound and determined on winning the election. right now as it seems they party might lose in more ways than one.


  33. Are the supporters of Denis Kellman and Mara Thompson not part of the Barbados electorate, are they not to be included in the population of Barbados?


  34. If the BLP decides to go for a new leader, and the party constitution as far as I am aware, makes it an exclusive vote for parliamentarians, they have a choice of Mia Motley, a young, dynamic woman, or Dale Marshall, less dynamic but an alternative of sorts.
    Or, they may decide to skip a generation and go for Ms Bradshaw, who I am hearing a lot of good things about.
    It may also be an opportunity to amend the constitution to give asll party members a vote, since the parliamentary leader is also leader of the party in the country.
    We all remember a situation with the DLP in which only Kellman and Thompson were eligible leaders.
    In any case, what are we going to do with Mascoll?


  35. @Yardbroom

    Did you not say you would rest on this point…lol? In the world of stats to use St. John and St. Lucy to a lesser extent can be considered to be outliers. The two constituencies are known for their unwavering DLP support, especially St. John!


  36. Here is an article which appears in the Sunday press by Peter Laurie who is considered an independent commentator:

    http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/near-perfect-result/

    A pity it is his final article, not many impartial views to be found nowadays in the media.


  37. @AC

    what margin of error what? This morning I read on Barbados Today that Wickham said he does not have anything personally again our beloved PM, whose coat tail helped his party. Why is it that David et al believe that Owens’s cota tail could have “tailored” in the blp. As I said that I dont have much uses for the Cadre poll after I saw the strategy Peter was using to fsshion our thinking to deestroy any chnaces of the pm obtaining his own mandate

    The dlp prevailed against the odds. PM was portayed in the main stream media, particulary by Hoyoa, Brandford and Sankra Price as inept, I have never witnessed such an onslaugth on a PM in my voting years, The you have two polls in less than three days. WHY would a poll have to conducted so quickly unless there was something sinister about it. Barbadians are not stupid. The plot thickens as elections were called.

    The BLP promised member of the business commuity that they will deliver the elections to them and in return, they will get a large return on their investment.

    There might be other factors why succoo, lost, but the magnitude of vote buying in that constituency leave a lot to be desired. I was just talking to voter in the dash valley area and she indicated that money galore was spent and all the young men seem to have with the money is get highs.

    As reagards Mascoll, wherever he goes he will be a liability, he has no conviction. He has to waita while more before contemplating moving into the Governor of the Central Bank mansion. The people of Barbados, the discerning voters recognized that the DLP manifesto was the better of the two to take this country forward, while we continue to look after the most vunerable, hence the reason for the PM coat tail keeping the party in power.

    We were told never awake a sleeping giant. People on this blog, including the blo master were critical of our PM and he has them so sumbfounded that the explanation being offereed is that elctions are fought at the constituency leve. Any body with amodicum of common sense knows that. That is why u must connect with ur constituents if u want their vote. It is also conducted at the national level, where the leader uses his skills to convince the electorate why the paty should be given the opportunity to carry the party. The PM did it with great aplomb, while the leader of the opposition was defined as corrupt, a label he could not escape how ever hard he tried. I wonder if any of Obama strategist helped the party?LOL.

    It is clear that the DLP strategists were well prepared, all this talk about blp had the jump on the dlp was nonsense. I was seixed with the knowledge that the DLP had done constituency polls to help it with it startegies, Those polls were showing all along that the DLP would have won the govt, hence my prediction of a 17-13 victory. I was stunned by the lost of st George South, but as I have said, money is the root of all evil..


  38. @Miller, Prodigal Son, David (not BU)

    BU understands that Arthur vacated the office of leader of the opposition some weeks before the election because he was preparing to move into the PM’s office? IF this is true it speaks to a quantum level of arrogance.


  39. Rest assured that any new blood trying to wrestle leadership away from either party will have to be warned by the electorate to leave their arrogance and self-serving ambitions at the door before taking office. I think the electorate has had their fill.

  40. David, have a go at the new Cabinet Avatar
    David, have a go at the new Cabinet

    David, have a go at the new Cabinet, this time of the PM’s making.


  41. @TPP

    Do you and others believe Stuart is some kind of god who is above criticism? BU, like many others, believed the BLP would have won the election, people who held this view have done nothing wrong so your puerile attempts to put BU and others on the defensive will be ignored. What you should concern yourself with is the fact only 54% of the vote came out in Christ Church West and 56% in Bridgetown. You should recall that Stuart was only galvanized into action post E11 saga. Never knew the guy had it in him to talk so much.

    Some of you on BU believe that members of the BU household should suppress our views. Hear this, we are human beings and not robots and we will freely express ourselves once we feel we have a good basis for doing so. You may carry on smartly.


  42. @ David
    1 -On your argument with Yardbroom…
    if you are talking NATIONAL votes how can you want to pull out Kellman and Thompson and not also pull Mia and Forde?

    National is National.

    2 – Mascoll is an idiot, a liability, and a fraud. What academic what? …in economics? economics is a voodoo science. That boy was a fraud from at school….
    Thompson bringing him into politics should have been a clear indication that Thompson was not altogether what he appeared to be…

    3 – Wickham is another academic fraud. If UWI ever gives him or George Brathwaite PhDs, Bushie will downgrade that institution to junk status.
    While polling is a viable science, Wickhams methodology is FLAWED. It alwasy was!!!

    His use of ‘national swings’ as a major “dependent variable” is not supportable by basic logic – for the same reason that you are wont to remove the Kellman and Thompson results from the national averages.

    …any 5th form statistics student could work that out. Such logic is only applicable for randomly distributed phenomena, but CERTAINLY not for political, religious, racial or other such data.


  43. A fantastic and very neutral article by Peter Laurie. If we can get the voters who are blinded by party affiliation to recognize the benefits to be had by the opportunity now forced on the two parties by the public, we can only move forward.


  44. @David

    no i dont beleve so. U would recall that I said on this blog that the pm need to communicate more and castigated for not doing so. I have castigated my party from time to time, but what i am not prepared to do, is allow u to get way with this constant harassment of the pm. Where ever the majority of the votes come from, a win is a win and the popular vote is the poular vote. No spin, however u try can refute that he has won.,

    u can carry on smatly. I wathed u castigate ac for gloating, and u similarly continue to allow criticism of the win, without speaking to ur partnes in profit and condemn them, but then again I am not surprised. You have a good sunday and enjoy ur lunch.

  45. Heads getting hot in here... Avatar
    Heads getting hot in here…

    while the Dees and Bees are having a friendly Sunday service and post service drink.


  46. @Bushie

    You have reinforced the point BU has been making. We need to deep dive the popular vote number to get a better understanding of what it means i.e. remove the distortion.

    Let us just agree that this election bucked historical trends and as political commentators have been saying was won by the obviously superior ground game of the DLP as oppose to the long coat tail of Stuart.

  47. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @ Bush Tea

    I hope that UWI does not award me a PhD. That would be sad and perhaps a mischief that neither of us would ever understand. By the way, congratualtions to the DLP, and to all successful candidates on both sides. How about thinking now about what Barbados needs in terms of national development?


  48. Hee, hee. it’s safer not to call names, don’t care how heated you may get.


  49. @david re ground game

    You may want to have Alvin Cummins comment on a major contributor to that ground game. Riddle me this riddle. Me that: what exists this election cycle that did not exist before in others?

    Just observing


  50. @ David, Bush Tea eloquently made the point I was about to make. . . a free exchange of ideas never does any harm.
    – – – – – –
    The problem with Mascoll is that he does not have a popular following, some people do not like him – that does not mean he is not able -but that is par for the course in politics. In addition when you cross the floor there are always things you said in the past about the then opposition which are quoted at you and can cause enormous embarrassment.

    Owen Arthur has very difficult decisions to make. Unfortunately for the BLP two candidates were elected which will not make a transfer of leadership to Mia Mottley as smooth as it could be. Mia should stay put, she will eventually lead the BLP again.

    Of all the players, Prime Minister Stuart has come off the best. CS is a robust politician but De has proved his mettle in the heat of battle. If the DLP play their cards right they can have this five years and another in office. However, this is dependent on them holding firm and individuals not getting above themselves. The master stroke was their Manisfeto, it did not promise the earth for votes, that gives them a fractional edge in going forward.

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