Submitted by DLPite
Central Bank of Barbados
I heard on BBC today that thousands more will lose their jobs in England, and that country is on the verge of a triple dip recession. Ironically, the IMF is urging David Cameron and George Osbourne to ease up on the austerity measures. Yet, despite the ravages of the worse recession since the 1930s, we in Little England, with no resources, are keeping our heads above water and trying to hold our own..
Ours is not the best, but we are doing much better than scores of other developed and developing countries. Owen Arthur and his party that left a mountain of debt can’t do any better than us. He doesn’t have a magic wand. All he has is cheap talk and gimmicks. We must stress that.
If OSA has the answers, he should tell Christine Lagarde, Obama, Cameron, Hollande, Antonis Samaras, Portia Simpson, Kenny Anthony, etc. OSA is like Mitt Romney, a pipe-dreamer.
Crap!!!
“Owen Arthur and his party that left a mountain of debt can’t do any better than us”
For true! Then the DLP must be full of magicians to be able to climb on top of that mountain of debt left by OSA and double it in height in just 5 years.
Can you imagine a mountain of debt the height of Mt. Everest doubling in size?
What are you and the DLP trying to prove? That they can build a fiscal Tower of Babel to reach the god of squandermania in order to hide from the credit rating agencies and the IMF due around May 2013?
Why not list the assets that have been acquired since 2008 (other than increasing the army of occupation) to justify the increase in debt in excess of $2 billion and heading fast to $3 billion by the end of this fiscal year?
@”ronically, the IMF is urging David Cameron and George Osbourne to ease up on the austerity measures. ”
known pattern of the IMF, they do not punish or work against the first world countries but they are hell bent on devastating the third world countries, that’s their agenda.
Barbados is NOT keeping it’s head above the waters at all not when many people are worst off than before. check the welfare department. the job losses, the businesses that close every single day….the fact that civil servants cannot get a salary increase BUT permanent secretaries, heads of departments, Ministers and the Prime Minister could and did get a salary increase in January of 2012 RETROACTIVE TO 2007( around 17% increase) and another one in 2013….something is wrong with the management of the economy. when the PM could decide that a maid, janitor, clerical officer, typist, messenger etc. (those at the bottom) must understand and bear the load but he and those at the top WILL NOT then what “keeping our heads above water and trying to hold our own” are u talking about?
disgraceful pack of ‘white’ trash they all are…look at Guyana, st. Lucia etc whose economy is picking up, they live on the same planet as Barbados…what are they doing that we are not? Arthur might not have the answer but Freundel Struat certainly does not either. the DLP had 5 years to bring change and new ideas but for those 5 years all the DLP did was reflect about the fact that the BLP was in power for 14 years,. they give free pass to school children traveling on the buses and the children are totally abusing the system, they give hand out to their friends with the introduction of free summer camps. they give free houses to those who would not get off their bums and look for jobs at the expense of the middle income group. the created Constituency councils but check who sit on the committees, another form of free money to their members. they also increase VAT to 17.5% knowing that it was their duty to ensure that business such as Courts B’ds, owed $25 million. Barbados is now a free for all when it comes to grocery shopping. the welfare dept is bursting with people everyday but those persons now get a $100 dollar food voucher and cannot return for another one until 3 months have past (technically avg $11 per week) they have reduced the housing loan at NHC from $50,000 to $30,000 yet the cost of properly increases every year. they have even put illegal immigrants and unemployed persons in the housing developments at Country Road, st. Michael and other places yet honest hard working barbadians cannot get any…they took Coverly, Ch Ch which had 3-bedroom wall houses for $47,000 and sold the property to that thief, paro and child murderer, now a little 2-bedroom match box crap is being sold for over $230,000…the DLP did all that to its citizens and u come here with ur stupid dribble about Barbados keeping it’s head above water? whenever elections are called, the DLP will go out to sea and remained there far longer than previously…We as a society are traumatised but the raping of our intelligence and way of life, they have successfully returned Barbados to the days poverty, i have a choice, I am not suffering but i still have to assist many EVERY SINGLE day because i as a human cannot see grown adults with children to raise reduced to poverty. i love to help but at the same time, my finances is being reduced, i am not complaining but it is frightening to see people who have jobs still not having money to buy basic food after bills are paid, what about the ones who work faithfully in government, get to work at 7:30 a.m. leave at 5:00 p.m. come to work without lunch and beg discreetly, when they are absent from work not because they want to be but simply because they do not even have bus fare to get to work or groceries in the house. i know of these situations and i cry at night knowing that i cannot do as much as i would like but i do to help…people such as urself make me sick. i know of these situations because people trust me to keep their business private…why don’t u grow up and get lost
@Smooth Chocolate
The St. Lucia economy is in the toilet:
http://www.winnfm.com/business/2670-st-lucia-pm-warns-of-economic-problems
Guyana’s economy strives on commodities which have been doing well on the global market. Conversely Barbados and many of the Caribbean islands are service-based hence the reason why they continue to struggle.
@enuff
How do we get to comparing the Barbados economy to hard currency economies which have a healthy industrial base read export led.
Surely you understand that criticize if you must but defending the currency is #1 priority. The government can be defensive in a depressed economic climate which shows itself to be protracted or aggressive a la BLP with a view that the global economy will pick up. What do we do? It is a matter of judgement and whether the electorate will go one way or the other.
Let us hope we pick correctly; it seems a lottery.
@enuff
A read of the following article suggest a big problem for the UK in 2012 has been a fall in output in the mining sector.
@ DLPite
Let me repost this execerpt from the Guardian newspaper again:
“Sure, there are all sorts of excuses that can be trotted out to explain away the fact that three years after the recession first ended GDP is still contracting. The crisis in the eurozone hasn’t helped. Rising commodity prices have raised business costs and acted as a brake on consumer spending. But the government also sucked demand out of the economy by raising taxes, cutting welfare and by taking the axe to capital spending programmes.”
Apart from keeping civil servants employed what else has the DLP done differently from the Coalition government? There are more similarities than you are willing to admit or recognise. Contrast both governments’ actions with the US where over 580,000 public sector jobs have been lost since 2009. In the you in the UK the number is just over 600,000 i.e. no major difference.Small wonder the US is growing at nearly twice the rate of both countries combined!.
A group of us soon to retire were sitting around talking the other day and everyone was yakking about where they were off to this winter.Some Portugal, some carribean, most Florida because they can drive there and have their car for the duration of there stay, but the one thing they all had in common was the large cost of insurance because of age or health they would have to pay.Barbados potential visitors are an aging population and maybe cant afford the cost of long stay insurance as well as the cost of the vacation. What if Barbados could offer a more reasonable travel insurance coupled with state of the art hospitalization at the same cost it would be in your own country.My friends say if I am injured or sick in the states just get me home because by the time they are billed they are bankrupt.Because they either have no insurance or their insurance company will only pay what it costs here.If you are not commodity based your are in a fight for your life somehow Barbados has to re invent itself,
We still going with owen,dont care what u say
MOVING PEOPLE FROM LAND RENT TO LAND TAX BY WAY OF FRAUD TO SUPPORT THE economy? What will they do when they run out of land to sell?. Or the law shows up and pull back all FRAUD. Then you will see where BARBADOS stand by way of Audit.
This Pm did not finish PM David Thompson work they stopped it , With the help of the Police.
IF YOUR MINISTER LIE TO YOU NOW , WHAT ELSE ARE THEY TELLING LIES ABOUT ?
VOTE FOR TRUTH NOT PARTY
David there is no point quoting foreign media about foreign countries.
Barbados is a separate and distinct country in its own political universe especially when elections are imminent.
After the elections we can discuss a way forward for Barbados which must address the continuous failure of Barbados Governments to do a few things.
Improve food security, drastically reduce spending on imported goods,reduce the dependence on oil by encouraging and giving incentives for alternative energy.
Barbados always behind the curve…. a hot air to electricity recapture system should have been put in effect prior to the election.You can borrow one from us
@ David
But isn’t that the point of DLPite’s argument–comparing Barbados with the UK as the government often does with regards to Spain and Greece? The improved exports in the US was fueled by the monetary stimulus by the way. The fact that “the economy had grown by 0.9% in the previous quarter, boosted by the London 2012 Olympic Games” tells us what?
@Smooth Chocolate | January 26, 2013 at 10:24 AM |
Excellent post! It is right on and so factual, I copied and pasted again. The Dems live in la la land. Those like the one who posted this crap, are the ones feasting on the fatted calf and have to boost up Freundel Stuart so that they would win again for their feast to continue. They have no idea how people are suffering. I am, like you am helping out two families both of whom the breadwinners lost their jobs and with children at school, it is hell for them. And these buffoons only care about themselves and the DLP!
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Barbados is NOT keeping it’s head above the waters at all not when many people are worst off than before. check the welfare department. the job losses, the businesses that close every single day….the fact that civil servants cannot get a salary increase BUT permanent secretaries, heads of departments, Ministers and the Prime Minister could and did get a salary increase in January of 2012 RETROACTIVE TO 2007( around 17% increase) and another one in 2013….something is wrong with the management of the economy. when the PM could decide that a maid, janitor, clerical officer, typist, messenger etc. (those at the bottom) must understand and bear the load but he and those at the top WILL NOT then what “keeping our heads above water and trying to hold our own” are u talking about?
disgraceful pack of ‘white’ trash they all are…look at Guyana, st. Lucia etc whose economy is picking up, they live on the same planet as Barbados…what are they doing that we are not? Arthur might not have the answer but Freundel Struat certainly does not either. the DLP had 5 years to bring change and new ideas but for those 5 years all the DLP did was reflect about the fact that the BLP was in power for 14 years,. they give free pass to school children traveling on the buses and the children are totally abusing the system, they give hand out to their friends with the introduction of free summer camps. they give free houses to those who would not get off their bums and look for jobs at the expense of the middle income group. the created Constituency councils but check who sit on the committees, another form of free money to their members. they also increase VAT to 17.5% knowing that it was their duty to ensure that business such as Courts B’ds, owed $25 million. Barbados is now a free for all when it comes to grocery shopping. the welfare dept is bursting with people everyday but those persons now get a $100 dollar food voucher and cannot return for another one until 3 months have past (technically avg $11 per week) they have reduced the housing loan at NHC from $50,000 to $30,000 yet the cost of properly increases every year. they have even put illegal immigrants and unemployed persons in the housing developments at Country Road, st. Michael and other places yet honest hard working barbadians cannot get any…they took Coverly, Ch Ch which had 3-bedroom wall houses for $47,000 and sold the property to that thief, paro and child murderer, now a little 2-bedroom match box crap is being sold for over $230,000…the DLP did all that to its citizens and u come here with ur stupid dribble about Barbados keeping it’s head above water? whenever elections are called, the DLP will go out to sea and remained there far longer than previously…We as a society are traumatised but the raping of our intelligence and way of life, they have successfully returned Barbados to the days poverty, i have a choice, I am not suffering but i still have to assist many EVERY SINGLE day because i as a human cannot see grown adults with children to raise reduced to poverty. i love to help but at the same time, my finances is being reduced, i am not complaining but it is frightening to see people who have jobs still not having money to buy basic food after bills are paid, what about the ones who work faithfully in government, get to work at 7:30 a.m. leave at 5:00 p.m. come to work without lunch and beg discreetly, when they are absent from work not because they want to be but simply because they do not even have bus fare to get to work or groceries in the house. i know of these situations and i cry at night knowing that i cannot do as much as i would like but i do to help…people such as urself make me sick. i know of these situations because people trust me to keep their business private…why don’t u grow up and get lost
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@ PLANTATION DEEDS
A lot has happened there [Barbados]. The worse is massive land fraud involving Violet Beckles, Sherene Mongroo, etc..; all embarrasses Barbados as does the Myrie Rape case, the police department and police commissioner, Darwin Dottin. Barbados at moment is standing on its last leg. It is in junk bond status and the Central Bank Governor Dr. Leslie Worrell on 01/16/2013 [Barbados Today Online] reports a 0 percent economy growth.
There are lots of theft there [Barbados] and corruption is rampard. A third party is needed but has not come forth or yet prepared to come forth.
Make no mistake this government is doing ‘well’ as some are saying has to do with the healthy forex reserves which it found ie. 2.8 billion now 1.6billion and a health NIS fund which successive governments have to take credit.
On the subject of flawed vision and not placing Barbados’ economy on a more solid foundation, the debate can begin.
The DLP since 2008 seemingly does not know what they are doing, have contributed nothing of significant but possibly could not contribute nothing of significant simply because the BLP before them didn’t know what in the hell they were doing.
I yearn for the day when a DLP supporter can competently issue a statement such as this
Hi there. over the last 5 years as a government we did x,y,z. This helped you individually and collectively by providing a,b and c. We would have loved to do 1,2,3 but because of l,m,n,o and p it wasn’t possible. Nonetheless, over the next few years, regardless of circumstance, we intend to plan properly and at a minimum, carry this country to q,r,s by realistically f,g, h-ing and keeping people and progress at the forefront of our policies and programmes..”
Now, what the hell so hard about that?? Every 2 words from the DLP is owen owen owen. Mia mia mia. Blp blp blp. Recession recession recession. Spain greece spain. You are the government for goodness sake. Act like it!
Bajans want mature politicians who take full responsibility for the job in front of them and act/make decisions! It may be too late now but at least you can go down with a decent fight that preserves dignity.
Just observing
Has the economic landscape stopped the DLP/government from operationalizing transparency legislation? i.e. integrity and FOI?
What about the cultural industries bill?
What about making the public service more efficient by cascading e-commerce functionality?
So many non-economic initiatives which we can point to not done.
This government only increased its work rate post E11 and it says a lot.
The BLP had time to fight with each other and for the most part did nothing by way of being a vibrant opposition. Hell the Opposition leader called the parliament poorakey and has refused to attend for any period of note.
Yet we get here and rumble daily about these people?
Dont know if David’s article is attempt at sarcasm and really dont care but truer words have never been uttered. The DLP has worked something of a miracle to keep the economy and society relatively comfortable.
David,
In all fairness to the BLP, was there anything of substance going on over the last five years? The Dems have behaved like we used to be so many moons ago at Christmas time when we got gifts.
They were fussy and drunk with their new found power and as what one of my children’s friend said to me recently, what took the Bees 14 years to become, they got in five years…. arrogant and cocky with nothing to show for it!
@Prodigal Son
Think Arthur, Simmons and Forde…
Just to make sure that we all remember that Barbados is part of the world’s economy just take a read of part of an article taken from Google news
Global economy remains fragile
By Chris Giles in Davos
The world’s leading policy makers clubbed together at the end of the World Economic Forum to warn that the global economy remains “fragile”, but they could not agree on the right policies to deal with the probability of continued feeble expansion in advanced economies.
Sensing that the fresh mountain air of Davos had fostered an air of complacency that the big problems had been solved, they lined up to caution that the world had a long way to go before economies returned to reasonable levels of growth
Many difficult decisions still needed to taken, they agreed, but in a sign of the difficult road still ahead, the policy makers disagreed over the right strategy to restore confidence and growth to developed countries.
Speaking to business leaders on the last afternoon of the World Economic Forum on Saturday, Christine Lagarde, managing director of the International Monetary Fund, said “do not relax”, adding that the weak growth forecast by the fund would prove too optimistic if the leaders of Europe, the US and Japan did not take “the right decisions” in the months ahead
It looks like she is taking the Barbados Central Bank Governor advice with this statement
“Along with Ms Lagarde and Mr Carney, Mr Amari said the right course was more active monetary policy alongside medium-term fiscal consolidation moderated to each country’s circumstances.”
@Clone
To be honest BU remains very sceptical about Mascoll’s proposal to free up money to spend in an economy which is import oriented. What if the economic depressed state continues for another 4 or 5 years? It means the policies of both political parties will be exposed.
@David,
Neither political party can do anything that will alter the lifestyle to which the middle and upper class have become accustomed.
They are all wishing and hoping for more tourisses an more offshore business to bring in foreign exchange so more Jags and bimmers can can grace the roads with occupants behind tinted windows.
Barbados will continue suffer as long as the wold economy continues to grow in slow motion.
@Hants
Thanks, as usual you get to the point.
Just imagine if both political parties had the capacity to dispense with the adversarial politics for 2-3 years and come together in an interim partnership to enlighten the people as to the great challenge which confronts Barbados. Instead we feed the flock with political crumbs from the table for parochial gains.
My problem David is that as Owen Arthur said Barbadians want to go to heaven but do not want to die.
The polls show that most persons would vote out the DLP because they want more money in their pockets. What they want the money for is more ostentatious spending.
Look at our roads everybody wants now a SUV or a big pickup truck such as Navarro, Isuzu, Ford rangers Toyota. The foreign exchange earned by the productive sector is easily eroded with this type of living.
We are living beyond or means by far.
Owen and Clyde is promising more.
I agree with you that certain policies that does not involved any money should have been pursued such Integrity legislation. I am very disappointed about this but would still vote for the DLP because it was only five short years ago that Noel Lynch and Owen Arthur were exposed for some underhand stuff and coming back in the worst economic times the world has seen to blame the government for not doing anything.
I have seen progress in Barbados. People are getting houses; people are repairing their own houses. Buying all new cars even with BLP Johnny Tudor saying on the radio they cannot get enough cars to sell. Buying and eating the best food. No civil servants were sent home and therefore some families were kept intact.
Some people maybe meeting it hard but that is happening all over the world. The government has extended the safety net to them.
Posters like enuff,prodical,Miller and onions are all well off Barbadians who have access to the internet 24/7 and have been at it from January 16, 2008 to get back the contracts that are available when their party is in power.
Smooth Chocolate; Your post at 10.24 is arguably the best post I have seen on BU during the 4 or so years I have been a frequent visitor here. It should be required reading for every candidate in these coming elections B and D. It tells the story of the semi invisible masses that is not being told and that, while largely being ignored or swept aside, might be the most influential factor in those elections, despite the PM’s onslaught in the overtime period.
@Clone,
Posters like enuff,prodical,Miller and onions are all well off Barbadians who have access to the internet 24/7 and have been at it from January 16, 2008 to get back the contracts that are available when their party is in power………………
For God’s sake stick to your points and leave enuff, miller, onions and I out of your generalisations. I depend on no BLP government for contracts, I am just a supporter! So get lost.
David; I agree with you that what is really needed is some sort of a truce from traditional party politics for Barbados to achieve meaningful progress over the next several years. But, not withstanding Bush tea’s pie in the sky BBE proposals, the only way that there will be such progress is for a cataclysmic emergency to hit us or for everything to grind to a halt through the implementation of worn out policies that do little to; involve most people in the restructuring (social and economic) action; call for sacrifices by only the poor and powerless in the society and; wreck the NIS safety cushion for many.
I have little hope that minimal incremental thrusts in the right direction will do anything significant to turn us around in this demonstrably sinking economy. I also think that if the DLP is returned to power this time around that their now proven incompetence will hasten the eventual turnaround but not in the way that would enhance our society and economy. Can you imagine Freundel at the helm for 5 more years after totally exhausting himself with the unaccustomed effort over the last 4 or so months? His ministers will do dixie, the NIS will crash, the favoured contractors will need to expand their luxury SUV fleets to take the cash to the bank for shipping overseas, etc. the poor will get poorer and more restless; Not a pretty picture.
By the way, Clone, are you afraid of losing your contracts and your place at the table feasting on the fatted calf. Never mind, your turn will come again in 15 years! Too bad you all squandered your inheritance so quickly!
That is one thing you cannot blame OSA for! ac, might, though!
I am told that Barbadians are flooding Burger King, which is interesting, in light of McDonalds’ failure here. And, I did not see the level of objection there was to McDonalds. Are these new fast food patrons or taken from Chefette, Kentucky, …?
@ David | January 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM |
“Guyana’s economy strives on commodities which have been doing well on the global market. Conversely Barbados and many of the Caribbean islands are service-based hence the reason why they continue to struggle.”
David the miller needs your help in figuring out the economic paradox and conundrum outlined in your observation above.
How can commodities ever fetch very high prices in a so-called extended economic recessionary period bordering on a longer-term depression rivaling that of the 1930’s? Shouldn’t most commodities except those basic vital food commodities be falling in prices according to the basic laws of supply and demand as outlined in the well-established principles of both micro and macro economics theory?
If the above statement expresses some form of truism shouldn’t the same apply to the commodity called Sugar? And shouldn’t the same commodity price-rise syndrome apply to the local sugar industry over the last 5 years? Shouldn’t the local industry be witnessing a reversal of fortunes instead of the continuation of decline of output that we have actually experienced locally?
In addition to the gold (and grain where drought or other disasters threaten) the only things that should thrive in a long-term recessionary market are gambling, alcohol, drugs and mass entertainment like movies with xenophobic jingoistic appeal as prevailed in the 1930’s. Not even the two of the world’s oldest con games of religion and prostitution seem to thrive and expand in these very hard times.
There is more to this international economic realignment than just the banal ‘demand and supply’ economics as we would want to posit.
@ Checkit-out
TO be honest, I’m shocked to see that “Smooth Chocolate” has the capacity to actually make contributions beyond his/her regular bashing of homosexuals. Exhibiting competence over hatred is always a plus in my book. That aside, I wouldn’t posit that what s/he has said is anything revolutionary, but merely common sense. People such as Rosemary Parkinson, Hal Austin, David (B.U.), and others as well as myself have long touted the problems of the Bajan economy and administration and have actually PROVIDED solutions that could effectively steer Bim on a course of LONG TERM SELF SUFFICIENCY. It just simply fall on deaf ears and people here are just all talk and no substance at all. That is the Brand of the Bajan people I still have a petition that still needs to be signed by Bajans, but to no effect. They’d rather trouble themselves with their blackberry gadgets and Rihanna. A pitiful lot indeed the Bajan peoople have become. But even pity is too much of a luxury for the Bajan people. ‘Pathetic’ would be more accurate.
@Miller
You need to extend your concern to the policies so far touted by the Opposition. There is no easy fix here. The narrative of the BLP is that we will fix it. Now you et al know that this is political rhetoric. This is the problem and this is what inflates false expectations and beliefs by our people. It is what is feeding a valueless value system and emptyheadedness. it is why we have the party hacks who spout and BELIEVE their rhetoric.
Did you listen to Sir Frank on Thursday night? He posited that despite having educated many of our people, at this time when the country needs them to fertilize the national discourse to bring weight to solution oriented approaches, instead there is a vacuum. What does is say about our success in educating our people?
So Brudah-Bim is correct?
The issue is NOT what our per capita income is but what do we need to do to MAINTAIN it.
@ smooth chocolate,
…look at Guyana, st. Lucia etc whose economy is picking up, they live on the same planet as Barbados…
What a sick joke. Guyanese continue to see Barbados as the land of milk and honey where the streets are paved with gold. Dont take my word ask any of the 20,000 who voted with their feet to stay in Bim. They not returning to Guyana under any circumstances. Check the Guyana embassy here Barbados full of Guyanese living happier with more disposable income than could ever dream of in Georgetown. Barbados GDP is twice that of Guyana’s while their population is almost three times Barbados’. Unemployment in St. Lucia is 25% and climbing were in not for pariah state Taiwan the St. Lucia goverment wont be able their bills. St. Lucia is in big economic trouble only less worse than Greneda with half its workforce idle. Smooth chocolate stop telling lies we can read the news and the internet to expose your deliberate untruths. You trying to make Barbados look bad its not going to work. The fact is Barbados is one of if not the leading developing country in the world.
@ Clone | January 26, 2013 at 5:51 PM
So you seem to know a lot about the miller who –as if you Clone are looking in a mirror- depends on the fortunes of a political party for his earthly materialistic existence. The miller sees no reflection in your mirror image.
Your reference to mendicancy and dependence on a political patronage can only be described as a futile exercise in bathos. You are so far short of reality that even Freundel’s outburst of philosophical madness would make sense to the ordinary or average rather literal Bajan as he wrestles- after awakening from a giant long slumber- with the beast of a dead lion lying in some street of Ephesus with a living dog running away from the stench instead of having a deal of a meal; if you know what the miller means.
Check it out
You have really let down the persons who contribute to this blog by saying that Smooth Chocolate post was the best you read in four years.
Yet again anything to discredit Barbados is good for you and all the BLP contributors on this blog who rejoiced when we were Downgraded by the frauds who contributed to the world’s economic problems by giving all the Ponzi money firms an A grade.
None of the countries in the Caribbean including Trinidad give their citizens as much freeness as Barbados and therefore the comparisons are null and void.
Since 1961 all Barbadians went to school from Nursery to Tertiary free. No other Caribbean Government has done that.
We Bajans were always pulled down by the other islands because we flaunted that educated attitude. The posts on this blog now makes me feel that we have fallen way behind the other islands when it comes to being educated.
David pointed out to her about the St.Lucia and Guyana economies so no reason to repeat.
BLP spokespeople like Mascoll et always using Guyana as a beacon of growth in the Caribbean. What they neglect to say is that Guyana has benefited from debt forgiveness – eg. 467 million from IADB. Other international financial agencies did similarly.
http://www.iadb.org/en/news/news-releases/2007-03-16/idb-governors-approve-44-billion-in-debt-relief-for-bolivia-guyana-haiti-honduras-and-nicaragua,3665.html
@ David | January 26, 2013 at 7:17 PM |
I am a bit taken aback at your response. You know full well that many of the miller’s radical suggestions for reform have been falsely attributed to the authorship of BLP and which will never lie harmoniously in the bosoms of that conservatively focused agent of buying and selling as apishly displayed by the DLP. Except for the push for privatization and outsourcing of State functions of a fully commercial or of semi social good nature the miller and BLP would not make good bedfellows.
Many of my recommendations for economic adjustment to realign with the realities in the international economy with its clear paradigm shift in trading relationships do not reflect current BLP thinking.
My brazen call for bold and imaginative changes in the RE area are well documented.
Do you think that either the BLP or the DLP would ever consider a ban on the importation of vehicles for private use with engine capacities in excess of 1600 cc except in rare justifiable circumstances?
Do you think that the miller’s suggestion that those vehicles with the ML and MP registration plates should be the first to transition to RE a policy initiative would curry favour with either the B or D decision-makers?
Do you think that either the DLP or the BLP would impose a surcharge on gasoline or diesel for private vehicles or penalize those PSV’s that emit dangerous black fumes by way of heavy fines and withdrawal of licence and permit?
Do you think the BLP or the DLP would ever consider the incorporation of RE in the construction of the Boabab Towers in Warrens (soon to be renamed in honour of a well-known politician) or even the Valerie High Rise Penthouses known as the ‘SS’ ovens?
smooth chocolate and his cronies posting a roll of dog shoite. Bdos per capita income is $25,000. Guyana’s per capita Income is $7,000. Go to CIA Factbook. Unless God forbid there is a calamity or windfall of historic proportions Guyana’s per capita income cannot catch far less surpass Barbados’ in our lifetime or in our grandchildren’s lifetimes. I love the Guyanese people they warm and friendly but smooth chocolate and his cronies distorting a bad situation in Guyana to score political points here.
@ Harry Bynoe
“You trying to make Barbados look bad its not going to work. The fact is Barbados is one of if not the leading developing country in the world.”
I beg to differ. Harry, you are clearly exhibiting a classic case of hurt pride. So damaged is your pride that you are not (or refuse rather) to see that on a larger structural scale, Barbados is only a two-bit shell of an economy pretending to be a “global player”. Barbados has no reputable domestic companies/corporations that are regionally let alone globally competitive; so your argument is entirely baseless at best. Take a look at how international crediting agencies have ranked Barbados’ bonds below junk status. Know what you’re talking about before spewing such nonsensical trite.
It comes off as mere trivialization of a much graver issue at hand; the very not-so-distant future of Barbados as a ‘nation’. Get real, Barbados is simply an over-touted tourist destination that is in the process of losing brand value and overall reputation as other developing countries are gearing up their tourism sectors. We have no significant natural landscapes nor resources that can be readily exploited. We produce not one damned thing of high value that can be exported and yet you continue to spout out foolishness that Bim is the “greatest”. Follow how the money and administration is being run and it is clear that Bim isn’t even a Significant party in the international community.
So please Harry, sit down and do some more home work for your own benefit before entering any discourse. It reflects poorly on your character if you fail to do so.
Brudah bim you jackass the international community through mechanisms like Human Development Index (HDI) rate Barbados not me. Look up HDI on the internet if you dare. Barbados has been ranked NO1 developing state for most of its independent existence by HDI idiot, what hurt pride what. Kofi Annan lauded Barbados for punching above its weight. The world’s economic meltdown affects all countries Barbados has weathered it well compared to most developing states fool. Thats not idle talk try a little research and learn to read. Ever heard of Iceland, Ireland, Spain , Greece, Portugal, Italy, United Kingdom, Jamaica, Bahamas etc talk to them before you approach me with nonsense.
Clone | January 26, 2013 at 7:57 PM |
“Yet again anything to discredit Barbados is good for you and all the BLP contributors on this blog who rejoiced when we were Downgraded by the frauds who contributed to the world’s economic problems by giving all the Ponzi money firms an A grade.”
Barbados will always be discredited by its own doings as long as this DLP administration continues to protect the biggest fraud of all times as far as BajanCLICO policyholders are concerned.
Why is the DLP openly embracing Leroy Parris and shielding him from further investigation and from the tentacles of the arm of Justice?
Now that Lawrence Duprey has cut him to the wind are you the DLP going offer succour and a haven of protection to this most despicable con man of distorted sexual repute?
One of the major reasons for the justified credit rating downgade to Junk status is the potential widespread damage to the financial climate in the sub-region and deleterious effects on investor confidence brought about by the CLICO ponzi scheme.
Will Freundel continue to protect his bosom pal now that his (Leroy’s) erstwhile mentor and lover has cut him loose to the vagaries of the law and the retributive sword of justice?
We aint REAL thats our problem.
We ask questions that have no answers.
We discuss the DLP and the BLP as tho EITHER have ANY merits.
Discussing which is the better is starting at the wrong end of the scale.
Rather which is LESS bad.
Great choice isnt it!
In the land of the Blind the One eyed man is King.
We sinking and we have LEAD or a ROCk to cling onto.
I mean it aint as tho I am the only one on this rock to notice that our PM is scarcer than money,and I agree if’n I had a face like that I wouldnt want to be seen so much either.
But he is by name ;the PM, of this place ,so I reckon,that under the Trade Description Act we should be looking for a REFUND.
On the basis the goods were “Not suitable for the purpose” and 100%” Not of merchantable quality”
We have Civil servants that as yet I AINT ever found to be in the LEAST Civil.
We have public entities that Just run them selves.
CUSTOMS that have some REAL STRANGE CUSTOMS.
We DO NOT HAVE a Tourist Industry,we have a beautifull rock ,Sand sea and sunshine ,ALL GOD GIVEN, and a group of Yardfowl hangers on that squander every damn cent it earns and THEN SOME..
Because they have NOT a clue about Business or Tourism but they IN THE JOB, then talk SHITE about NICHE markets and fancy it up with STATISTICS. Put on the shades and “Skin de teet” .
Well sorry I cannot see one Shite to “skin anything” about,cos I do not see that this is a laughing matter.
Mind you if’n I was PM and could fly me “LEAD ARSE” to a PM conference in some fance place at a cost of 500,000$ , jump a few white bones ,and sashay around in a very exspensive designer suit and some OTHER IDIOTS (US) pick up the tab,I guess I would “skin me teet” a little.
Sorry to Piss on your Parade boys,but as they say when” USA sneezes we get a cold”
Now USA had very BAD Stomach Trouble and we now UP TO OUR NECK IN SHITE.
I looking round here and I ent see one body can do a damn about it.
B or D! Yah agree!!??
I think our little Rock in for some DREAD times and the Politicians still be doing what they always do. NUFFIN.
Pass me another ESAF OSA.
I already Eat and SLEEP
as for the last letter I guess I gonna get that pretty soon as well.
@Jus mekkin sport
BOOM!
@enuff
As you well know it is standard for PHds to post their work in academic spaces to suffer the glare of peer review. It was in that context the question was asked about Mascoll’s paper.
This lame article will not save the DLP’s face…once more..hear the EXCUSES bartone..undertone…Global Recession….Don’t you DLP Guy Fawkes nit wits ever get tired of this EVERPLAST?……I’ll say this….it won’t save your asses this time…..try telling ” Barbados not doing well to the men in Swan st…you guys are so outta touch….JOKES.
@ David
More money also means ability to pay a maid, a gardener, go to a nail or hair salon, pay bills etc
@ Clone
After fooling the people in 2007 that the cost of living was high due solely to local players, individuals like yourself should be ashamed to use GLOBAL conditions as a defense!
Increased debt, significantly higher cost of living, annual current account deficits over $400m for 5 years, increased fiscal deficit, unemployment stuck at 12%; tourism, other traded sectors and manufacturing down, FDI down 16%, Vat revenue down, personal tax revenue down; and growth for 2008 – 2012 0.7%, -5.3%, -0.4%, 0.5% and 0.0% respectively with projected growth for 2013 0.7% based on an expected $600m in FDI. This is the Barbados economy according to the Central Bank. Pray tell why should your party be re-elected?
As for your contracts statement………….pure hogwash!!!
@ Harry Bynoe | January 26, 2013 at 8:38 PM |
“Look up HDI on the internet if you dare. Barbados has been ranked NO1 developing state for most of its independent existence by HDI idiot, what hurt pride what. ”
As Brudah-Bim has stated: Man Harry you really living in the past when men ah ride ass.
Since has Bim been the No. 1 developing country? In the 1992 on the same Index Bim was at No. 20 in the World or the as you said ‘the number one developing country’.
The most recent ratings (2011) put us at no 47 or thereabouts.
Now HB the consummate jackass how do you explain that? Blame it on the BLP alone?
@Smooth Chocolate- Your post was both inaccurate and nonsensical. The economics was overshadowed by pure politics. Unfortunately many like you in the BLP feel that they must create the impression that everyone else is doing well so as to intensify the blame game on the current government.
Tourism dependent economies in the Caribbean have all been negatively affected.We cannot run away from that but to come and suggest that St. Lucia with over 20% unemployment, a huge and burgeoning fiscal deficit and with nearly all the makjor tourism real estate projects in receivership like The Landings is doing better than Barbados is to overstep the bounds of economic and social reality. Barbados is doing much better than many of its Caricom neighbours .That is a fact.
@David 7.17pm
The BLP have risen to the occasion many times in the past.Mistakes might be made but the BLP has a tradition of good solid governance and the ability to attract investment which we need like yesterday.Sadly,one got the impression that the DLP is nothing without Errol Barrow.Sandy was a monumental failure,oversaw a lot of wastage and almost devalued our currency with stupid policies that made sense to him only.We were at the stage where BST dropped a hint that they would with hold taxes due and it was subsequently denied by the DLP knight in there.
Now we have a worse situation in which the contributors to forex is dwindling and there is little hope of the administration pulling it back.They were never up to it when PM Thompson was at the helm stumbling from one mistake to the next, and its worse under Stuart who cannot and will not trust his colleagues.It appears to many that that mistrust is mutual.
The BLP has the combination of expertise and know how to bring Barbados back to a state of growth.They have done it before and can do it again and most importantly most investors seem to have confidence in the Barbados Labour Party and its policies based on the economic data thats out there.
@ Harry Bynoe
ROFLMAO!!! You really don’t want to start. You’re relying on information provided by corrupt organizations paid off by huge multinational corporations. I don’t care what the HDI says as we still have Bajans living in SHANTY TOWNS AS OF 2013!! We produce not one single thing get shit keeps falling from your mouth and is smeared across your eyes. You should be reading what the Credit agencies such as Moody’s as well as Standard & Poor’s to get a true understanding of how economics works. You my simple-minded friend, have absolutely NO KNOWLEDGE of how macroeconomics works. I grow tired of explaining it to the likes of simpletons such as yourself because you still wish to play “know-it-all” even when you are CLEARLY in the wrong. An ass wouldn’t walk off the ledge of a mountain; but a fool such as yourself would be inclined to jump off it, eating the falsities fed to you by “internationally renowned” organizations. Mind you financial agencies such as the Lehman Brothers of the U.S. were once considered “too big to fail” but fell HARD. Bim’s economy is literally on the fringes.
Unenlightened parties such as yourself wouldn’t even know how to measure growth and productivity, let alone know how to parse out superficial jargon meant to appease stupid investors. Even a clown would know that our economy is literally on a thread and all it would take is one little nudge from a globalized financial crisis to throw this country into complete ruin. An idiot would also note that Bim is Highly dependent on the cash of tourists from 1st world countries ie. Britain,Canada, and the U.S.; it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that should those countries falter, BIM will Fall even harder. I would call you an idiot, but even that would be a compliment to someone who lacks any form of a serious thought process such as yourself. Hence my time would be wasted on the likes of you… (-_-)
@enuff
Yes that part of the dollar that circulates in the domestic economy is welcomed but of equal (greater?) concern is the part which leaks out via forex. Mascoll claims he understands the nuance of the Barbados economy as a result of research for his PHd. Is his paper published?
Simple analysis, to maintain the economy ~flat, we have to grow(forex). The current strategy is unsustainable.
Let us be fair, this recession has hit every tourism dependent economy in Caricom extremely hard. Opposition parties from Jamaica in the North to even oil rich Trinidad in the South have capitalised on these tough economic times and tried to blame the local governments for all that was happening. I even saw the BLP trying to pin the Almond Resort closure on the government when Neal & Massy wanted out of the hotel business for quite a few years.
Nevertheless, politics is politics so we will continue to hear how hard it has been over the past few years and try to blame the lack of tourists spending money on the current goverment.
I personally think that the government has done an excellent job with the hand that they were given.The huge public service wage bill was not created by this government but what is apparent is that structural changes that needed to be made to this economy over the last 20 years were postponed as we rode a global bubble which was bound to burst at some point. We are now at an important crossroad. If some Bajans believe that there is an economic magician who will make this bad recession go away, they are sorely mistaken.
The BLP supporters like to trot out this phrase: Oh we have the expertise to do it and we can do it again.
Break down that statement- The economic growth in the BLP years did not occur in an environment of recession and sluggish growth in our major source markets. In other words, The BLP has never acheived economic growth in Barbados when our major trading partners were not also growing.
Can anyone on this blog prove other wise? I dare you to show me one occasion when England was in recession and Barbados tourism was booming…I am waiting.
As said by the governor correctly, we need to improve our service quality, business facilitation, tourism market diversification- things that affect our competitiveness structurally – Do not believe Mascoll’s poltically expedient “lick out some money” economics. That is designed to catch votes and placate the big financial donors in the private sector who are stuck in the old ways of doing things. That is why Trinidad was eating our lunch even in the so called good times.
Neither the BLP or DLP is responsible for the econonomic misery in Barbados. The DLP though has tackled stumbling blocks put before it from the previous administration.
@ LOOK
Then who is to blame when the elected politicians from both parties have contributed to the current dilemma this nation is facing?
@ David
Have any of us published? Yet we have ideas, including yourself. Secondly, I don’t think the plan is to ONLY stimulate domestic spend so we should therefore wait for the full suite of policies before denouncing the plan. What we do know is that the DLP’s plan, the MTFS, is not working as evidenced by the increased debt and fiscal deficit recorded in 2012.
@ Brudah Bim
President Obama stepped in to save the auto industry, had to because the auto industry affects a lot of businesses big and small – lots of jobs. The DLP maybe wanted to save some of those hotel and small business closing but couldn’t. The DLP is not responsible for Al Barack, the millions over-budgeted [Dodds Prison Project], the 2.4 million dollar loss [Nigerian Water Heater Project]. It can’t possibly take responsibility for the tourism industry near death because of a global weakened economy. It did not attempt to replace revenue lost from tourism and is fault for that. Barbados relies on too few things to survive, mainly tourism. Tourism in Barbados is Plan A and plan A right now is not productive – not enough. A plan B is needed, NOW.
Arthur says “economy is a mess right now”, we will fix it. He’s going to fix the economy but does not have a plan to do it – echo from Mitt Romney. LOL
! wrote “As said by the governor correctly, we need to improve our service quality, business facilitation, tourism market diversification-”
And more importantly double agricultural production every year until we have food security.
http://www.hydrasense.ca/en/UniqueToHydrasense.php
Uh wunda eff Bajan sea water could work.
David a topic idea for you begin a thread on a head to head of DLP versus BLP platform speakers for the election campaign.
Who prevails on the platform like so:
-Stuart v Arthur > Stuart wins Arthur terrified of Staurt stayed away from parliament because of fear. Stuart oratory too profound and powerful.
-Sinckler v Mottley> keen tussle ,Sinckler cutting oratory and street humour pips Mottley.
-Estwick v Dale Marshall. No contest Marshall destroyed escorted to Jenkins by campaign platform police.
-Donville Inniss v Payne> No contest again Payne joins his shadow Gail Marshall in Jenkins.
-Jones v Cynthia Forde> Forde loses.
-Sealy V Toppin> Toppin loses curses Arthur for setting him up
-Kellman v Glyne Clark >a draw both unintelligible.
-Michael Lashley v Duguid> Dugiuid cowardly turns tail runs all the way to Montreal never returns.
What do you think let posters Dees and Bees weigh in.
@Harry Bynoe
While your comment may have been made in jest, I think it can make a related point that there is no skill set currently available in the BLP that does not exist in the current DLP cabinet. In other words, there is no superior talent man for man or woman for woman that the BLP has put forward that the current cabinet does not possess.
The BLP has never acheived economic growth in Barbados when our major trading partners were not also growing.
Can anyone on this blog prove other wise? I dare you to show me one occasion when England was in recession and Barbados tourism was booming…I am waiting.
@ Miller – The increase in debt will occur in times of recession as government’s finances are challenged. Tourism is the driver of our economy with thousands of jobs and linkages. With a drop in tourism spend, there will also be a drop in demand for these services and consequently a rise in unemployment and this has a ripple effect in the economy. The government’s revenue is affected with less tax take and in Barbados Government moved speedily to implement the Tourism Relief Fund to stabilise the industry. Therefore there needed to be support for these entities in an effort to minise the likelihood of widescale job losses and widescale hotel closures.Knowing that there would be challenges, there was also an effort to maintain support for the vulnerable in our society – hence an increase in the Income Tax credit and payments for the disabled and welfare recipients. The energy grant was implemented so that the poor would not be further impacted by the rise in global fuel prices. The government also implemented the accrual system of accounting where expenses were reported in the period incurred.
This government has done an exceptional job in some very trying circumstances. The BLP never had to deal with an international recession like this so to say that there was economic growth under on party and sluggish growth under the other is a statement that must be examined in context as the condtions prevailing were vastly different.
GooD Submission! but smooth choclate takes the cake. great example of liars can figure and figures can lie.
@Miller
We should be curious that government is responsible for 60% of power on the BL&P grid. Specifically the QEH, BWA and GAIA.
What it means is if government is serious we should be witnessing conversion in these area in a very aggressive manner. If we want to make hurry savings in forex.
@ ! | January 27, 2013 at 12:13 AM |
“The government also implemented the accrual system of accounting where expenses were reported in the period incurred.”
That’s a blatant lie and you deceitfully know that this DLP administration came to power and found such a system in place started under the previous administration but became expansively operational by the Ministry of Finance as set out in loan agreements to improve fiscal management and reporting system of the government. Hence the need to ‘bring to book’ the so-called off-balance sheet financing projects.
We must therefore take what you wrote above with a large measure of skepticism and as uninformed political hogwash dressed up as desperate partisan propaganda.
But one thing you are genuine about is that the DLP administration is full of magical talent as far as managing the economy. What you have outli(n)ed is not attempts at restructuring the economy but just a continuation of the same old same dependence on fickle tourism and int’l business. The only difference is that this DLP administration came to the brilliant conclusion they can earn their financial stripes in managing economy by using other people’s money (OPM) without concern for its repayment.
Which business entity whether at the private sector or at the State level can survive by borrowing consistently to meet its current or operational expenses like wages and salaries and failure to meet its current liabilities for goods and services?
If this DLP has a Cabinet with superior skill sets to any previous one, then explain the following:
How come many of the revenues raising measures authored by Darcy Boyce like taxes on cell phones, lottery winnings, bicycle licencing remain largely un-implementable?
How come Jepter Ince, in his erudite rendition of Finance esoterica and fiscal propriety, does not know the difference between a “Fiscal” Deficit and a “Physical” one?
Why is Sir Frank always used as the chief spokesman for the Dems on all matters of economics even though he claims he is independent and not an inside bosom placed ardent member of that party. Where in this current Cabinet can be found a loyal well-trained economist -whether wooden or crystal- that can speak with the technical competence and authority (as can be found in the BLP) on such matters instead of outsourcing these skills?
Why is the current Minster of Finance so inconsistently unreliable in his projections and implementation of promises but at the same time has a corrupting penchant for unjustified discrimination in the granting of tax concessions to forex consuming (instead of generating) commercial ventures?
How can a person be described as being in possession of magical skill sets when so much tax revenues remain outstanding in the face of a fiscal crisis which according to that person cannot be ‘wrestled to the ground’ solely by cutting expenditure and sending home civil servants. The majority of the tax revenues that remain outstanding are not of a result of underperforming business activity but criminal failure of the fraudulent business managers to pay over the VAT collected directly from customers and PAYE and NI contributions docked from the pay of hardworking employees.
How can Chris Sinckler review the provisions of the IADB loan agreement and compare the agreed fiscal targets against his dismal and abjectly poor performance and then come to the fore to receive credits from the like of you, “!”, instead of junk status downgrade by the int’l credit rating agencies?
The performance of the Governor (a creature in the image of the same MoF) will be for another occasion.
your paying some guy full salary to stay home for seven years and you wonder why you are in trouble Ill bet you this is not a isolated case
How can this piece of 2×4 island be doing well when we cannot feed ourselves? We cannot even produce our quota of sugar which has been on a downward slope for many years. We import sugar for local consumption, we import food for local consumption we import every brassbowl for local consumption. How de france are we to pay for this? Tourism our main forex earner is on the decline. And people can say we are doing well against the odds? The family silver has been sold to pay for the imports, the house ent belong to us anymore and eviction notice is on its way. We doing good? When you have to borrow from Peter to pay Paul you say we are doing well? When Peter decides to say no to the borrowing who will you turn to? How will you pay back Peter? The bucket has little water left and we still doing good? When it get emptied I hope you will say that we are still doing well! Stupse
In Canada we dont have any lords or sirs, that way when people have to roll up there sleeves and work they dont think their better than the next guy and get the job done. Whether ideas come from beach workers to sirs no ideas should be overlooked to trim costsand up productivityThere is no majic solution here this will have to be an attack on all fronts leave egos at the door.
@Miller-
one sided as usual.
“How can a person be described as being in possession of magical skill sets when so much tax revenues remain outstanding in the face of a fiscal crisis”
A basic flaw in your analysis – these statutory arrears in vat payments, NIS, etc were growing when Owen Arthur was Minister of Finance – a point which you probably conveniently forgot to mention. So this DLP government should have gone and extracted all the arrears that were built up from 1994 – 2007 and then people like you would be crying about the harm done to the private sector.
Since the accrual system became operational under this government, obviously they had to ‘bring to book’ the so-called off-balance sheet financing projects. This needs to be factored in as you look at the debt figures because we all know that the BLP was involved in massive off budget spending – remember your new friend Clyde Mascoll complaining about BLP off budget spending.
The foreign reserves that the BLP speaks of were as a result of borrowings and not spectacular foreign exchange earnings so those reserves were accompanied by increase debt repayments.
As for economists who can speak with technical competence – listen you are getting confused – not every economist is a politician. Arthur is a politician and so is Mascoll , therefore they twist the economic jargon to accomodate their political objective. Arthur and Mascoll are certainly not more competent or experienced than Darcy Boyce but Darcy is not a campaign speaker. Your point is ridiculous.Eg: Arthur will say Government needs to cut expenditute- an economist can say that means significant cuts to the wage bill and sending home people. Arthur and Mascoll have a political objective so they will never admit that publicly.
My point remains – there is no magic about the BLP and to all those BLP supporters like you , who are tired hearing about the global economy – I am still waiting for an answer – Please show me one point over the last 50 years under any Prime Minister including your boy Arthur when our major trading partners were in recession and the Barbados economy was booming. I am waiting.
Barbados relies on too few things to survive, mainly tourism. Tourism in Barbados is Plan A and plan A right now is not productive – not enough. A plan B is needed, NOW. Barbados beyond tourism perhaps considers exporting (sugarm molasses and rum) its plan B. If so, Plan B consumes small amounts of revenue – smaller than tourism. Additional products, therefore are needed for export but primarily for domestic use. Barbados likely could harvest basic food items it now imports from neighboring islands in the caribbean simply to reduce its food import bill; the country is falling apart and or standing on its last leg, now – right now.
Arthur says it the “economy is a mess right now”, we will fix it. He’s going
to fix the economy WITHOUT a plan how he could or would do so. echo from Mitt Romney. Romney [United States] vowed Americans he would lower taxes WITHOUT a plan how he could or would do so. Arthur ” when and while sober” maybe will invent something and register a patent.
Near everyone thinks the economy is hurting but I havent seen too many ideas, so I will get the ball rolling and if everyone pitches in we may get a solution. Well Well feel free to manufacture any of these products as your own……..
The face on the back of a ball cap for pet owners ………….so when your dog is crapping on the beach it always seems like your looking the other way….
The aero-dynamic coral/ganja briefcase for the entrepeneur……so when a policeman comes on the beach you can do the 100 meter faster than Jamaica’s Bolt….
Gangnam style is making millions why not the Bajan shuffle,……..when drinks come to the table stand up move your feet a bit put your hands in your pockets as if you are going to pay ..then scratch yourself.
How about the political monkey, a green monkey fitted with steel toe construction boots you keep in your closet, whenever you feel like running for office you open the door and it runs out and kicks you in the balls
And a wise one would be quick to ask Ms Mottley who it is that is paying for and running these ads, and while at it that person should also ask her why has she allowed Noot Rudder and his gay band to destabalise Ronald Toppin and why is it that the PA to Forde has been canvassing in St James North against the sex pervert Hinkson?
Mottley has no interest in a BLP win at this election with Arthur still stumbling around the party, she will hang him out to dry this time around and send him away and run her own campaign 5 years hence forth.
There is no one that is within the Inner circle of the Mottley dynasty that will tell you anything other than she has a plan to unseat Arthur and Payne, Marshall and Toppin all of whom set out to destroy her well being.
There is no dispute that she has been having that destabalising program undertaken in the constituencies of Toppin and Hinkson, I know for a fact of life from the mouth of Rudder himself in a place in Black Rock and I know for a fact of three days of canvassing in St James North with Forde’s PA in Sion Hill to persuade BLP voters to vote for the DEMS, not a moment of hearsay my friend but a fact of life, you may not want it said as it dispels the rumour of peace in your party but life is what it is and Mottley has been doing whatsoever she needs to do to keep herself in the frame for the next election when Arthur will be a thing of the past.
Also have you noticed the backward and junior position she has been assigned to speak in these platform speeches a very very junior position an also ran position.
Ps can you see Arthur having to step down as Prime Minister and leaving the country in the hands of Dale Marshall were he to win his seat ?
I think the real difference is that the Canadian does not have a track record of abuse of her female sex partners, she maybe is free from the history of vicious beating and furious biting as handed and bite out by Mottley.
Nor is she one who determined if some should stay or leave the country by if that person was willing to submit her body to Mottley for it to suffer its abuse and STRAP Lashes, as one Guyanese was forced to take to have her Work Permit granted, those are immoral and sick reactions by a sick an immoral Mottley person
@ ! | January 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM |
You are waiting for what? For the miller to respond to your much discredited cesspool of lies?
You know very well that those so-called off-balance sheet financing projects like the Prison and Highway expansion were brought to proper book from current expenditure in prior years to capital expenditure in the fiscal year ended March 2008. The massive increase in the national debt after that year cannot be attributed to those book-keeping adjustments.
Any thing you say after that is infected by a trojan horse of lies and red herrings.
If Darcy the buoyant quisling is such a great economist why isn’t he the Minister of Finance instead of a buffoon of an empty-headed bullfrog lying in his own filth of corruption and broken promises?
Why isn’t Darcy charged specifically for the restart of the Four Season project, or if he is, what is really going on there? Put on eternal hold like the cell phone tax and additional impositions on already taxed lottery winnings?
One notices you conveniently avoided any reference to the other two arm chair economists in the form of the boisterous doctor of ‘play-play’ economics pretending to be a gun slinger at the OK Coral of Finance and the tongue twisted Jepter the ghost of CLICO mismanagement who does know his fiscal elbow from his physical asshole.
miller ! waiting for you to answer the question and give a lot of voodoo economic theories
My point remains – there is no magic about the BLP and to all those BLP supporters like you , who are tired hearing about the global economy – I am still waiting for an answer – Please show me one point over the last 50 years under any Prime Minister including your boy Arthur when our major trading partners were in recession and the Barbados economy was booming. I am waiting.
@ac
miller nor any of the other BLP airheads cannot touch this one. For those who came in late:
My point remains – there is no magic about the BLP and to all those BLP supporters like you , who are tired hearing about the global economy – I am still waiting for an answer – Please show me one point over the last 50 years under any Prime Minister including your boy Arthur when our major trading partners were in recession and the Barbados economy was booming. I am waiting to see how they spin this one.
The BLP silence is deafening
@!
What will happen come election day is simple: the swing voters will vote for the party they believe has the competence to chart a course out of this mess. All the analyzing etc will come to nothing but for this point.
@!
What will happen come election day is simple: the swing voters will vote for the party they believe has the competence to chart a course out of this mess. All the analyzing etc will come to nothing but for this fact.
I gone, let them call Red advertising and spend a couple more thousand dollars attacking the PM, that is what they like to do but they cannot bring any facts to disprove this point: “Please show me one point over the last 50 years under any Prime Minister including your boy Arthur when our major trading partners were in recession and the Barbados economy was booming.”
The presidency of George W. Bush according to Richard Adams (07-01-2010) was the worst ever. Not surprised, George W. Bush, after leaving office (2008) said he was done with politics and that he was uninterested in campaigning or raising money for political candidates. The ex-president, George W. Bush congradulated President Obama and its members of the military after learning that the United States has successfully killed Usama bin Landen [a notorious terrorist] but ultimately stays clear of politics and or political matters. He, George W. Bush did not participate in the 2012 Republican National Convention (Tampa, Florida). He also did not participate in President Obama’s 2nd oath of office. President Obama’s 2nd oath of office occured with only ex-president, Bill Clinton and ex-president, Jimmy Carter.
It’s possible the BLP could win the upcoming general election. The DLP though may win, it’s possible. If the DLP faces defeat, Stuart hopefully will leave politics and not come back. If the BLP faces defeat, Arthur hopefully will leave politics and not come back. The BLP administration with Arthur at the help (1994 – 2008) yielded more negative than positive that formulated lots of embarrassment. The DLP administration with Stuart (2010 – 2012) contributed nothing of significance – didn’t know what to do with what was put before it, because the previous administration before it did not know what in the hell they were doing
Harry Bynoe | January 26, 2013 at 7:28 PM |
” Smooth chocolate stop telling lies we can read the news and the internet to expose your deliberate untruths. You trying to make Barbados look bad its not going to work” The fact is Barbados is one of if not the leading developing country in the world.”
i am a young female. i have not political axe to grind, please grow up, not every one who has a point to say is a member of a political party. as far as i can see and understand, Guyanese are running to Barbados not realizing that they have a beautiful country with vast resources which are being under utilized. their economy is progressing, it cannot be equated with Barbados but what i meant was that their economy was growing not receding, so they must be doing something right.
most adults had the last 5 years to see how their lifestyle had changed, whether it has improved or not,… i say cannot change their opinion of which political party contributed in a major way to their economic situation.
i do not walk around with my head high, i choose to purposely look for those i can help in anyway i can and i love doing it, it is a way of life for me, my parents taught me that. I have never seen families reduced to poverty as i have witnessed in Barbados during the last 5 years. i would love to vote for a some other political party but being between a rock and hard place, i have no choice but to vote BLP i is absolutely frightening to imagine 5 more years with the DLP.
Checkit-Out | January 26, 2013 at 5:55 PM |
THANK U Checkit-Out…I CAN BE A GOOD GIRL SOMETIMES 😉
Maybe viagra and mosquito foggers so the goverment can save money by not having to tell people to open there windows on the radio.
how about 1% proof rum so when you wake up in the morning and look besde you, you dont start screaming yikes
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@David
Regarding your previous post about swing voters , that is true but the government must present the facts and the context of the situation as it presently exists and explain to these voters continuously. There are no economic magicians out there but some are out there giving people that impression to get votes.
That is why all of our neighbouring countries that voted back in former Prime Ministers are still smelling hell because they thought that bringing back the former Prime Minister would mean a return to the economic growth of a different time. It did not happen there and sorry to tell you Barbados does not exist in a vaccum.
This has been a prolonged recesion in our major tourism market and bringing back the BLP and its arrogant set of candidates will not help our situation in any way.
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