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Ronald Jordan reacts to his transfer to Alexandra - Image credit - Nation
Ronald Jordan reacts to his transfer to Alexandra – Image credit Nation

I wonder how many of those teachers, who assiduously canvassed for the Head to be “separated” from the school, thought that they too would be separated, and if they did, why did they fight with such alacrity [eagerness]?…I have only posed a question.

The general idea from the present Government’s perspective was to solve a major problem and this up to a point they have done. The main players are no longer at the school, the school has an opportunity to do what it is mandated to do…teach children and thus move on.

Many of the major participants will never be the force they once were and some at the end of careers, will be remembered for things they would rather forget.

A lot of upheaval has been caused and many through only circumstance and time have been thrown around in this vortex.  Perhaps now the dust can settle and power will never again join forces with arrogance in the mouths of those whose duty it is to “lead”.

I have purposely avoided names, in this new circumstance let us leave blame behind and seek a beginning of light out of a pit of darkness.


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  1. @YardBroom

    Why did you start this new post. stupse. You clearly do not understand the issues and the wider implications of the reckless actions taken by the government. so much for human and industrial relations! Trying to divide and rule and dissolve the trade union membership is UNWISE. This type of action makes them stronger.


  2. Mr. Jordon, you need to join the BSTU.. I can guarantee you that you will not get any justice from the BUT. All the BUT executive members are looking for is to become principals.


  3. Yardbroom;
    Nice attempt to defuse the situation! I don’t think it will work though. The die was cast as soon as Ronald Jordan made his case in the public arena. The BSTU can’t pull back now except elections is called within the next week and their leadership can be convinced to stay any action for the sake of the Governing party as distinct from their own credibility as an effective Union.

    I disagree with Observing on this one. If the push back is strong enough from a sufficient number of teachers BSTU can’t back out and will have to shake up the industrial climate once more. Such action allied with a concerted campaign to highlight FS’ faults and foibles will take its toll at the poll when the state of the economy and CLICO and other matters are taken into consideration.


  4. I agree with Yardbroom. He has always been a voice of reason. I was shocked to see, after the COI, whilst one was awaiting the Report, these so-called mature and highly educated teachers walk out of the Speech Day proceedings when the Principal began to speak. Who are the children here? This act was done in presence of students and parents. Damn glad they were transferred. If they don,t turn up for work they should all be fired.

    I,ve know Gail Streat and her family since she was a kid. Tecla did not raise her to be rude. I am now looking at her differently.


  5. A bunch of nonsense from Yardbroom.
    ….bad start for 2013.

    How can messing up things for people like Mr Jordan and his students at PM be condoned in the interest of “transferring” jokers from AX?
    Also…
    if they are not good for AX what makes them good for other schools? Like HC, St George and Cawmere?
    That makes sense?
    Make the damn people behave like ADULTS at AX, OR else….

    – Retire them.
    – Move them to the Ministry of Education (that seems to be the place where incompetents are accumulated)
    – Pay them to stay home
    …but do not go and mess up other schools now….
    ….stupsssss

    Typical of Bajans to opt for any shit ‘for peace sake’. It is the easiest way to get screwed up.
    ..ever heard of JUSTICE and FAIRNESS?


  6. @pat

    So because Gail Streat stands up for her rights, she is rude. I guess Martin Luther, Mandela were all rude. That is why we keep getting f*cked over. Karen Best cud keep her mouth shut and do nothing but collect money and buy wigs and fly bout the place and then be given a top post as CEO for doing nothing as BUT president and keeping out of the matter but it all gine blow up in them face now.

    this thing is unfair to students, But everyone is an expert in teaching. Students have different learning styles. Teachers who teach a child would be aware of these styles and structure their lessons to suit. Students would have become accustomed to a certain teaching style and it will not be a seamless transition. It just does not work that way in Education. Furthermore, teachers are on vacation, when, where and how would two teachers collaborate to ensure teaching starts as soon as possible. Mr Jordan lives in St John, his replacement probably in St Peter. It is not as easy as you all make it out to be.

    this thing unfair to teachers. Transfers are not normal in secondary schools, and after 35 years i am sure one would have planned his activities accordingly. Now you give a man 8 days to change everything and start anew. What rubbish this government has done!

    P.s Legally correct isnt always humanely correct


  7. The 3 top things the DLP have accomplished:
    1) Having the dubious title of being the longest serving one-term government i.e more than 5 years (Jan 15,2008 – after Jan 15, 2013)
    2) Renaming schools
    3) Mass confusion
    This is what happens when a bunch of clowns win an election. There are the worst administration I have ever witnessed.


  8. True.


  9. We have not forgotten that Leroy Paris is not a leper and is Freundel Stuart’s friend.

    We have not forgotten that tens of thousands of pensioners are still scrunting from their dealings with the Prime Minister’s friend.


  10. I suppose that when Jesus Christ skin the money changers outta de temple, and used a whip to get them moving that he was rude too.

    And after all Mary did not raise him to be rude.

    Surely she must have raised him to be nice, nice all the time, even in the face of wrong doing and jnjustice.


  11. @Checkit-Out & Bush Tea

    Hang on!

    If all parties to this dispute are not able to find an avenue to exhale doesn’t it have the potential to become even more protracted? For example, if Jeff Broomes and a few irate others (transferees)decide they want to test this matter in Court, given precedent, we are looking at years to resolution. In the interest of the children isn’t there merit in compromise? Look at the so-called benefit of the social partnership as a model in collaboration perhaps?

    The litigious nature of the world has finally caught up with Barbados!


  12. @David
    isn’t there merit in compromise?
    ******************
    What compromise? Get with the program there is no merit in compromise its all about winners and losers.


  13. Man David
    As Bushie said UP FRONT, all that was needed was to discipline the woman that refused to teach, and if Broomes broke any rules, discipline him as well.
    This was viable as recently as right after the famous speech day.

    For lack of this simple stitch in time, we now have an ever expanding snowball.
    Now three times as many unions vex, and many more people..

    If Bushie was Mr jordan the bushman would be vex as hell too…. To the point of pissing on some idiot in government.

    In the final analysis this probably will mean Freundel taking the piss – and Arthur getting to continue to sell of Barbados to foreigners.
    LOL
    Perhaps JUST ASKING has orchestrated this whole thing to achieve her voting prediction.. 🙂


  14. @ David
    One does NOT compromise principle.
    Perhaps some people believe that the same applies to principal…

    Anyway, Bushie going sleep since the fiscal cliff anticlimax done… 🙂


  15. @fed up
    man you arguing three issues all at once. lol. I told you already that it’s clear you have an axe to grind!

    “Transfers are not normal in secondary schools,”
    Does that make them wrong? particularly under “extenuating circumstances?”

    @can’t wait
    Mr. jordon can easily be brought on charges of misconduct and disciplined for his “brazen” display.

    @Bushie
    “One does NOT compromise principle”
    How much people “round hey” got principle? or a good principal? 🙂

    “Make the damn people behave like ADULTS at AX”
    That was supposed to be Phase One. We past that long time! lol

    @check it out
    On what legitimate grounds could BSTU reasonably and legally shake up the industrial relations climate and using what argument??
    Which of FS’ faults and foibles would be highlighted in this specific case?
    Don’t get me wrong, they can do whatever they feel like, as they have shown before, but I ask again…on what legitimate grounds and who could they blame or strike against and for what?

    Now, as usual we agree on the potential political fallout, except that

    a) the Commission was convened, made it’s case and submitted its report. that’s that
    b) Freundel washed his hands of any action to be taken
    c) the technocrats at this point rather than the politicians are to blame if there is to be any
    d) despite the confusion we actually have a solution to the original problem, and
    e) if we rehash the entire issue, we’ll need to rehash it back to the original source (including the Scribe and Pharoah behind the infamous letter), which would make things bad for the BLP as well.

    @all
    Has the “specific Alexandra issue” as highlighted in the King and Waterman reports been solved by this action (on the surface that is)?
    If it has been (pending Broomes’ letter appeal), then we need to now focus on the new problem at hand which is simply this:

    How do we ensure the right “transferees” are chosen (i.e. minimum disruption at their old school) and then how do we make the transition easier and smoother for them and the children at Alexandra. After all the huff and puff, egos and exhaling this is all that it comes down to.

    The problem here isn’t what was done it’s how and to some degree when it was done. We should see it through this lens.

    while we’re at it someone should tap Mary Redman on her shoulder and whisper in her ear…”be careful what you wish for.”

    Just Observing


  16. How does all parties to the dispute being conciliatory and imbued by a sense of fair play – considering the children – compromise principle?


  17. Here we go again on the merry go-round of rights; “responsibilities” never get a look in. Metaphorically, burn the place to the ground, we will stand in the ashes proclaiming we were right.
    It is right to fight for justice, but mature adults know in industrial relations there is a time to call halt. . . . although sometimes it is painful. You cannot keep promising your members all that you demand.

    We must have an “end” where commonsense prevails and the wounded can bandage their wounds and walk away.

    We are a people on a small island whose meagre resources should be used to make us stronger for the “common good” or we will waste our talents to prove how right we are.

    In an institution for the Education of children, they hardly get a mention.

    “Some”. . . . with a political angle do not want this to end, they will do anything to keep the pot boiling. We must think of the Education system in Barbados, our children, and how we can make things better, or we will turn in circles as our resources leach away.


  18. Bush tea and Observing; Best comments on this issue so far.
    Observing; I’ll respond on the section addressed to me later but for now
    re. your first point; “On what legitimate grounds could BSTU reasonably and legally shake up the industrial relations climate and using what argument?”

    Do Unions need legitimate grounds for shaking up the industrial climate? Was the initial grounds of Broomes apologizing for one teacher’s absence from the classroom a legitimate ground for BSTU shaking up the IR relations climate early last year? If so, don’t they have even more legitimate grounds for shaking up that climate this year when the solution ensnares, in a negative way, at least 20 of their members who were innocent bystanders? Isn’t it legitimate for the Union to use what weapons they may have to fight a case that could have future serious impacts on the welfare of any of their members and if the FS mass transfer doctrine is used in like manner in the future for solving such problems wouldn’t such a damaging precedent to its members be set?

    I have no problem with the transfer of any of the teachers per se as I actually think the even handed transfer principle (Broomes as well as a few of the protaganist teachers) was a good thing as it actually admitted that both sides were at fault and not just the Principal as most posters on BU thought. But I think that someone took a sledgehammer approach when a scalpel was needed and I think that FS must have approved that approach and the degree of discomfiture caused to innocents and should be deemed responsible for it. I think BSTU has a right and duty to respond to the serious collateral damage caused to its membership. If it were possible to walk back the number of transers to say 3 +3 and do those transfers sensitively and in a more timely fashion I would be all for it and would congratulate FS for a master stroke but of course that isn’t possible now.

    You asked “Which of FS’ faults and foibles would be highlighted in this specific case?”
    There are so many exemplars of FS’ faults and foibles that are shown up in the AX matter and culminates with the transfers that I don’t know where to begin. Since I don’t have the time to deal with that right now let me just say that in dealing with th AX matter he left a trail of clues as to who he actually is that rounds out a picture of someone who is imperfectly fitted to the role of leading a country.

    To be continued ……….


  19. @Checkit-Out

    Your last comment is flawed because you know that the comment by Broomes was the proverbial straw. The IR climate at AX was simmering for years. The fact that the King Report was languishing in file 13 at the MOE …


  20. @simple

    concentrate on the matter at hand. it is a simple matter dont u think?


  21. 10 years under O.Symore Arthur and nothing was done.the Children win.they have a more stable environment to study in


  22. @John Chapman

    We are all hoping but don’t be so quick!


  23. mr jordan has a an avenue to register his objection to his transfer. It is ovious he might be angry, but that does not give him the right to flout the public service act or the general orders. I suspect, based on his outburst, he might decide to retire, befor any action is considered.


  24. Yes David. You’re partially right. But that simmering pot was being stoked by two groups, The AX old scholar teachers and the Principal. The final resolution of the transfers clearly recognized this. The fact that the King report was languishing for several months fully implicates the Ministry. Nothing has been done about that Ministry (so far?).

    My point was that Unions have historically demonstrated here (rightly or wrongly) that they don’t need any “legitimate” reason, discernible to the general public, to take industrial action. A mere perceived slight to one of its members would appear to be all that is necessary to trigger such action. The current transfers could have caused significant real damage to several innocent bystanders who had no connection with the AX matter, as perfectly exemplified by Mr. Jordan, and I think BSTU would have standard practice on their side to act on such matters this year if you are maintaining that they had a right or duty to act in the Amaida Greaves case last year.


  25. @Checkit-Out

    Understand your point but the record of the BSTU is one of managing a passive IR climate. One must appreciate that position.

    On a tangential point what does it say about CTUSAB?


  26. @John Chapman
    One thing I ‘like’ about DLP supporters is no matter what goes wrong, they say well the BLP were in power for 14 years and they did nothing about it.

    Well guess what, if you all were not up to the challenge of managing the country, why did you take the job. Guess you all expected it was just about getting a piece of the fatted calf. Well to get the calf fat, you have to feed it, to feed it you have to work hard.

    Why is there no comment from any of the top ministry officials or the Minister. Have you noticed that CBC has not brought even a snippet of this matter on television. THAT WONT MAKE IT GO AWAY.

    Deal wid this Fumble Stuart


  27. Well John look who is talking. but what the Dlp supporters say is the”truth” something the BLP supporters not used so what we say may sound kinda strange . however the mess left behind like AX has been tackled by this govt. maybe the outcome might not to be the liking of BLP doom and gloomers but it has reached a semblance of resolve BTW i noticed that Jeff broomes still in hiding hell bent as usual in using the same tactics he applied in ignoring authority.


  28. The above comment was to FED UP.


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  30. Let’s hope the new teachers and principal settle into AX and the children benefit from the taxpayer funded education. All the other parties who allowed this mess to escalate at taxpayers expense, should not now have any job at all.


  31. Who is listening to Caswell locking horns with legal eagle Hal Gollop, a renown local constitutional lawyer.


  32. @david
    Give us the summary!


  33. @ David

    Let us get something clear, Caswell has some knowledge (above average) of the law but don’t for a minute believe he is a legal expert on anything.

    If Mr. Broomes wants to go to Court then do so, that is his legal right but in the meantime he has to report to Parkinson School per the legal transfer. Alternatively he could decide to call it quits and retire.

    If Mr. Jordan wants to go to Court then do so, that is his legal right but in the meantime he has to report to Alexandra School per the legal transfer. Alternatively he could decide to call it quits and retire.

    If Mrs. Greaves wants to go to Court then do so, that is his legal right but in the meantime he has to report to Harrisons College per the legal transfer. Alternatively she could decide to call it quits and retire.

    These blasted non-sense have to stop somewhere. Teaching is NOT about teachers, it is about STUDENTS.

    The COI did exactly what was needed, show up all of them publically and the truth be told most of them where behaving like blasted children.

    SCATTERING THEM FAR AND WIDE WAS THE BEST POSSIBLE RESULT.


  34. @Caswell

    You you give a quick summary of your posit on air this morning and the rebut by Gollop?


  35. @ david

    Mary Redman got her wish, Mr. Broomes was transferred. Thats what she wanted so she could not be against the principle of transfers when she was a proponant of it.

    I know this, the MOE already have a contingency plan for Broomes if he don’t report for duty on the first few days of the new school term. HIS ASS WILL BE FIRED, SIMPLE.

    Is anyone going to report the improper sexual conduct of PE teacher Brromes to the Police for investigation? This is an important issue which everyone seems to be missing, we seem more concerned with the keys persons in this fiasco than with PE Broomes, the pervert.


  36. Uncle Jeff can get him hired as a Coach. Note: Coaches are not teachers and paid out of the School funds. That way he cud have some more activities with the Parkinson girls and his Uncle Jeff would protect him.

    I wonder what would happen if Jeff Broomes was sent to any of the older grammar schools. Now u see why those newer schools will never be treated with respect. Too much hypocrisy in this country.


  37. @Times Squared
    Look and see how much sick leave along with doctor’s certificates will be presented this term. As for Alexandra school, students will suffer. All of this because there is too much friends-ing in Barbados. Walter Maloney and Broomes are drinking buddies.

    Wunna know every post and place Broomes work in has resulted in major chaos. We await the chaos at Parkinson.


  38. What seemed to me to be coming out of the conversation was that Hal Gollop has let the cat out of the bag that the government intended to bring the estimates early as he said ” Who say that estimates are not ready?” He argued that Estimates can be laid anytime and not by March 8 as Caswell opined.

    Then his cell began to ring. Was someone calling to tell him he said too much? What threw Hal Gollop off his talking points was when Caswell said “but Mr Gollop, if the Estimates are laid and not debated or passed, the bill dies when Parliament is dissolved”. Mr Gollop then started to stammer as he seem not prepared for that. Then the phone rang again and David Ellis shut down the discussion and went to the OCM news.

    Mr Gollop seems to be the PM’s chief advisor but if they really intend to go right down to May it begs the question why is FS afraid to call elections. He missed out by not getting his own mandate after the king died.

    This refusal to call elections when the right thinking people of Barbados want elections, will only make people more vex and if he thinks that they wont wipe them out like in 1994, he is more stupid the we on BU think he is!


  39. @ Prodigal Son

    You think Mr. Gollop is a fool. Anything you read into Mr. Gollop’s comments will only serve to confuse everyone somemore. You think Mr. Gollop going to betray 9even by accident) the confidence of his life long friend and PM, Freundel Stuart? Plus do you think the PM would confide the dates he is toying with for elections with Hal Gollop, a past BLP representative on the electroral and Boundaries Commission in Barbados?

    I don’t know one single person in Barbados who is calling for elections. Other of course than politicians and those who think they will one way or the other benefit from a return of the BLP to office.


  40. @ Prodigal Son

    The BLP is going to get such a beating in the next elections, it is going to perplex alot of political or so-called political know-it-alls for a very very long time.

    In the end the people will say “cah dear, Stuart ain’t really do anything wrong, man he try he best and things ain’t as bad of other people in the Caribbean. Lewwe give he another chance, he is a decent sort”


  41. It is really ridiculous the debate about the constitutionality of when the PM will call election. Ridiculous indeed.


  42. @times squared
    You really are quite presumptious and dependent on assumptions! Hopeful, aren’t we.


  43. I have said in a previous post legally correct isnt always prudent. Well Freundel continues to study Greek Literature before he makes a decision on calling the elections. If he calls this election after February 12, it gine be riots bout here. This election climate is stifling Barbados. Call the elections and get it over wid.

    We begging yuh Freundel


  44. I bet when they see your post they laughing and taking it for a joke!!

  45. Candy Cane Mushrooms Avatar
    Candy Cane Mushrooms

    @ FED UP

    I hear them got 239,000 people on the electoral list. You is only one bloody person, so why you feel FS should listen to you? You have to wait, the date set for elections are at the discretion of the Prime Minister and not FED UP.

    FS got $189 million dollars to spend from the sale of the BNB shares before he calls elections. You know how much work UDC, RDC and NHC gine do if them given piece of this money before elections.

    Barrack gine still get pay too but not just before the elections, can’t allow too much lead time between paying him and the date for voting, alot of that $70 million would end up in the BLP election campaign.

    Estimates going to be debated in Parliament before the February 12 dissolution and after that the DLP administration got 90 days to announce a date for elections in Barbados. That takes them to May, so get accustom to waiting cause your calls for the damn elections ain’t going to bare any frigging fruit chump.


  46. @David. At the risk of attracting the ire of the Redman aficionados on BU, let me point out that the fat lady may not yet have sung. The momentum us with Broomes, not with the MoE, no matter how they may scheme and plot and think themselves safe. I am satisfied (and I am pretty sure that Jeff will agree with me) that there is very likely a very strong case against the MoE for breach of Broomes contract. Broomes, it also appears to me from cursory examination (which is all I have time for at the moment) may have had his constitutional rights breached and therein lies another action. Certainly the COI report is so completely inexplicable as to require being referred for a judicial review and overturned. So really all the MOE can do is dig itself into the sh**e further. The MoE’s position is extremely weak and only the BSTU gang on BU could possibly think differently. I think that, knowing they stand not a hope in hell at the ballot boxes, the government has decided to leave mess for the incoming government.

    I am astounded at the censure surrounding the information that Walter Maloney and Broomes are social companions. Maloney is head of one of Broomes’ two unions and it seems logical to me that they might be friends. Has anyone bothered to find out the nature of the relationship between Redman and Greaves and comment on THAT, always provided there is one?

    Finally, the idea as expressed by one “Times Squared” that, “In the end the people will say “cah dear, Stuart ain’t really do anything wrong, man he try he best and things ain’t as bad of other people in the Caribbean. Lewwe give he another chance, he is a decent sort”” boggles the mind. Here we have a PM who has: failed to keep election promises; failed to make moves to have the CoP and the DPP dismissed (yes, we know that one of them requires the setting up of a commission of enquiry – SO WHAT??!!) over a rape case that is STILL going on in the British press and has cost Barbados tens and hundreds of millions of dollars in tourism revenue and given the international impression that Stuart is Mugabe’s understudy; has spent $600,000 on a CoI that will almost certainly be challenged and lose him the majority of the vote of Broomes’ unions at the ballot box; has changed the Constitution to remove legal challenges to the appointment of a CJ who has tuned not to be a dud and has handed down only two judgements since taking office and both exceeded the maximum 6 month period prescribed and who very simply does not seem to know his job; a PM who has refused to bring the courts in line and must not be seen as responsible for the loss of foreign revenue in the billions. And you tell me that we are going to say, “Lewwe give he another chance”? You mad? Another term of no action and no balls? No thanks. @Miller – over to you, my bro, have fun with this one.

    Finally, David, I completely agree with you when you say, “It is really ridiculous the debate about the constitutionality of when the PM will call election. Ridiculous indeed.” I also point out that this was the subject of a legal action tried once before – after the last election. The decision of the courts sides with you, David. You will notice my restraint in not indulging in ad hominem comments and finger-pointing.

  47. Candy Cane Mushrooms Avatar
    Candy Cane Mushrooms

    @ Observing(…)

    OK wait and see. You hear about the DLP cartoons bout Owen the Auctioneer produced for the elections? Funny as hell man. I only saw one on facebook and it had me crying with laughter.
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    NHC – SOLD*
    SSA – SOLD**
    BWA – SOLD***
    TRANSPORT BOARD – SOLD****
    BARBADOS PORT INC – SOLD*****

    ___________________________________________________________
    * Bjerkhamn & Preconco
    ** Williams Industries
    *** Neal & Massy (broker, Sir Alan Fields)
    **** Peter Harris, CGI et al (broker, Hallem Nichols)
    ***** Larry Tatem, UK Worldwide Ports Incet al (broker, Hallem Nichols)



  48. @ Times Squared
    The BLP is going to get such a beating in the next elections, it is going to perplex alot of political or so-called political know-it-alls for a very very long time……………..

    Alright then, if you are so sure of yourself and feel that no one in Barbados wants an election, tell your man to call the elections. I have not met a person other than hard core Dems who are still feeding on the bare bones of the fatted calf, who have not asked when “dah” foolish man dont call the elections.

    So TS, stay in your bubble in George Street, you certainly would not hear any one there calling for elections!


  49. @ FED UP

    There is a difference between standing up for ones rights and being downright unmannerly. Walking out on a speaker, HER PRINCIPAL and SUPERIOR had nothing to do with standing up for her rights, Mandela or MLK. Tell me again what rights she was standing up for in front of her students when she walked out on Speech Day. Rude, rude, rude. I, too, was a TEACHER and had rights.

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