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BU is disappointed that despite the Barbados economy being gripped in a protracted depressed global economy, the national political debate continues to be about privatization, and of late, the poorakey behaviour unleashed in parliament last week.

BU joins with ordinary Barbadians to suggest worthy topics deserving of national debate:

  • How do we increase productivity in all sectors?
  • Making our governance framework more robust
  • How to more aggressively rollout the renewable solution (including waste to energy)
  • Amending the education system to align with national priorities
  • Source funding to build out a framework to drive the cultural and sports industries (national lotteries)
  • How do we incent consumers to buy hybrids – install renewable energy sources etc, etc, etc.

To debate any of the topics mentioned lends currency to the label that Barbadians are an educated people. And that we are attuned and aligned to what the key strategic priorities are at this juncture in our history. Forget the flowery nation building articles which have started to populate the local press. It is time to get real!

Many agree that there is no significant philosophical divide between twiddledee and twiddledum. BU concedes however that on the issue of building out a Renewable Energy (RE) program, kudos must be given to the government. It is a life changing strategy which has deep implication for how our little country will sustain an appealing standard of living moving forward. As we approach our 46th year of Independence BU views government’s strategy to diversify energy needs as critical.

Can they be more efficient in the implementation of RE? Yes!

The Opposition Party promises to continue its policy to subsidize fuel is myopic in our view. In the same way a parent sometimes has to make unpopular decisions affecting the household, the same can be attributed to government.

BU endorses government’s strategy of greening the economy.

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131 responses to “Are BOTH Major Political Parties Capable of Lifting the Political Debate?”

  1. We do not want back Owen Arthur Avatar
    We do not want back Owen Arthur

    This DLP government has the right approach to developing a national energy policy. It is a government with vision as they recognise that we must wean our country off this heavy dependence on fossil fuel if we are to position this economy for long term growth. This coupled with the focus on increased efficiencies which for example Donville Inniss(the best Minister of health in Barbados since Brandford Taitt) has been undertaking and Dr. Estwick;s repositioning of our agriculture sector will augur for balanced development in the years ahead. The DLP has the team to get the job done. They are being mature and realistic in their promises.
    What is becoming obvious is that after spending the last 4 and half years criticising, when the BLP was asked for specific solutions what we basiccally got from Arthur was let us sell out Barbados and a lot of gimmicks and promises which up to this date he cannot tell Bajans where the money will come from to pay for them. Arthur as usual is about saying things for short term political gain without any focus on long term development.
    We really do not need Arthur again. Arthur clearly has nothing new and exciting to bring.

  2. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    David

    You do not have to suggest topics for discussion in the Parliament: a check with the DLP manifesto would clearly show that they have too many things undone without the need to add more. By now everyone should realise that their manifesto was a document designed to win an election, and that they had no intention to be bound by it.

    While I agree with your suggested topics for discussion, I would like to be fair. I do not want to add any additional burden; I just want them to live up to their promises first and anything else after.

  3. David Avatar
    David

    @Caswell

    The current conditions call for new priorities. We all know the Manifesto by both parties is a poo poo document designed to win votes.

  4. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    David

    If you listen to the debates coming out of the House, you would realise that the level is such that nothing meaningful would emerge from your suggested topics. They are clearly incapable of intellectual debate. I am ashamed of the puerile crap that passes for debate coming out of the House.

    The level of debate coming out of the Senate is much better but Jepter is trying his best to level that playing field.

  5. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    You have a hell of a job doing DAMAGE CONTROL for the Barbados Labour Party!

    I wish you luck, but the people of Barbados will not be fooled. They know WILD BOY behavior and they see it in the Barbados Labour Party.

  6. Observing(...) Avatar
    Observing(…)

    @david
    “Poo poo document”

    Then by what shall we measure them when the time comes?? I agree with Caswell and a government should be called to account on account of its manifesto. Particularly when governance. Was the issue of choice.

    The calibre of current MPs in the house makes engaging, educational, enlightening, edifying and exciting engrossing debate impossible. 30 members, and at most 5 are consistently capable of dealing with the issues properly. Just repeated talking points akin to nursery rhymes.

  7. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Did you listen to the debate in the House yesterday?

    Very educational for the country and the Barbados Labour Party in particular.

  8. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    HERE IS A PAST COMMENT FROM YOU KNOW WHO:-

    Observing

    May 26, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    “After Duguid’s Parliamentary performance in the dying days of the Arthur administration and shortly after, I wouldn’t put anything past him and others who were blinded by and dead set on keeping power. Let’s keep praying for the present bunch in power and hope to God they don’t turn for the worst over time as well.”

  9. David Avatar
    David

    @Observing

    Don’t disagree with you or Caswell but what accountability do we have factored in the system of government? All of the committees of parliament etc are not used. Our people have no interest in exacting accountability except at election time. Many cite disillusionment for becoming disengaged from the process.

  10. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I should have added WILD GIRL behavior considering Cinty.

    Then again the WHOLE BARBADOS LABOUR PARTY considers it quite ok to talk about “YUH MUDDA SCU&T” and our Parliament is the ideal place to talk about it.

    The Barbados Labour Party has absolutely no respect for WOMEN. At the next general elections the women of Barbados WILL BEAT THEM with their X.

  11. Remember me Avatar
    Remember me

    Carson your suggestion that the BLP has no respect for women should go further to state that women like Mottley and Forde have no respect for themselves therefore no one has any respect for them.

    The BLP is not know as a party that pays respect the only thing that they respect is how to access the money of Taxpayers and how to defraud taxpayers into getting money into their own personal bank accounts.

  12. Just wondering Avatar
    Just wondering

    @ David .
    The absence of the Opposition from the Ecumenical Service on Sunday was very noticeable . Was it a case that they did not want to have anything spiritual placed in the way an likely to cramp their style on the platform that same night at Brittons Hill ?

  13. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David (BU):
    “BU endorses government’s strategy of greening the economy”.

    You are being unnecessarily harshly critical of the intellectual and imaginatively constructive contributions of some of us here on BU.
    Many of the nationally important issues that you alluded to have been discussed here on BU and workable proposals and solutions proffered outside the partisan political divide.

    Which person on BU would oppose government’s long established policy and both parties manifesto promises of “greening the economy”? It is OK for any party to make such grand sounding flag rallying electoral focused announcements but the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
    For example, how can the government or any political party talk about “greening the economy” when there so many vehicles on the roads belching out black choking smoke full of carcinogens and other toxins dangerous to both flora and fauna especially humans?
    Can’t something be done to reduce this state of affairs to an acceptable minimum level?
    This does not require any foreign loans or the easing of any recessionary pressures in the international economy (which will not happen). A simple change in the quality of fuels imported can contribute along with enforcement of regular mechanical inspection of PSVs and other commercial vehicles using our roads.
    What about the thousands of derelict vehicles scarring our landscape and blocking our streets especially in the St. Michael area?

    Colonel Buggy can identify many other ugly scars on our country’s landscape that would do with some serious but cheap cosmetic surgery.
    What we are on about is not any partisan attack but just a desire to see a cleaner and healthier looking Barbados. Something that is achievable if only the political will and walking the walk instead of talking the talk is allowed to prevail over stifling hot air.

    I will respond in another contribution regarding your “simplistic’ criticism of the energy policy proposed by Mia.

  14. David Avatar
    David

    @Miller

    Transforming from fossil to alternatives is a journey.

    Regarding Mia’s proposal to subsidise energy what is there to understand? The transformation will be painful for some but transform we must. Do you know the hottest selling vehicle in Barbados are the 2.5 to 3.0 SUVs?

  15. Rational Son Avatar
    Rational Son

    Just Wondering not a man from the BLP saw it fit to attend an evening of worship for our island.

  16. 100% Hardcore Bajan Avatar
    100% Hardcore Bajan

    @ David

    This is what the BLP believes will win them another term.

    Since 2009 the BLP, OSA and Clyde ‘Mallick’ Mascoll has been claiming that the economy was heading for certain ruin and we had our were about to fall off a cliff.

    Lets be real, the BLP has no message and their predictions are not coming to pass. How come OSA stop asking FS to call the damn elections????

  17. David Avatar
    David

    @Rational Son

    Don’t distract from the central point here. Both parties can quibble about who attended a Church service or why the government side did not see it fit to let Hansard record tributes to our celebrating 46 years of Independence, it just adds to growing public perception.

  18. ac Avatar
    ac

    So miller how do you propose govt stop these illegal practices where it is evedient that the biggest problems and dangers to the enviroment is the way people discard there litter and drive cars bleaching pollutants in the atmosphere.

  19. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    David wrote “The current conditions call for new priorities.”

    The new priorities for Bajan politicians is the same that caused the Bank of Canada Govenor to quit and go head the Bank of England. POWER and a bigger paycheque.

    The priorities in Barbados should be food security, CLEANING the whole Island and using the most abundant resource he Sun for solar energy.

    If the Government had balls it would ban the importation of any car bigger than a Camry or Accord and allow Electric and Hybrids in tax free.

    But Miller has already been preaching this on BU so hopefully he preaching to Owen and Mia too.

  20. Gabriel Tackle Avatar
    Gabriel Tackle

    At this very late stage of the life of this parliament I pray that the PM will see the wisdom of announcing the election date and either get a mandate from the electorate to make his clearly needed ministerial changes or pass the baton to those whom the same electorate might approve for the next five years.All else is grandstanding,poppycock and a waste of time and energy.Please Mr PM ,announce the election date and let us get on with the rest of our lives.

  21. Observing(...) Avatar
    Observing(…)

    @carson
    You aree correct. Duguid proved me right and the present bunch dashed my hopes 🙂

    @david 7 33
    Good governance was the pivotal promise of the DLP. Accountability is an anchor of good governance. There has been nothing in the last 4 years to shift the levers of governance. In this respect it has been the same as 4+ years ago. Good governance does not require earth shattering legislation nor bank bursting expenses.

    They can run from it all they want but this is how our current politicians shall be judged.

  22. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    re Caswell Franklyn | November 28, 2012 at 6:44 AM |
    David

    If you listen to the debates coming out of the House, you would realise that the level is such that nothing meaningful would emerge from your suggested topics. They are clearly incapable of intellectual debate. I am ashamed of the puerile crap that passes for debate coming out of the House.

    IT SEEMS THAT THE LACK OF INTELLECTUAL DEBATE AND PUERILE CRAP IS MIRRORED BY THE JUNK ON BU THAT IS PRESENTED PERENIALLY

    CLEARLY THE POLITICIANS PEDESTRIAN POLUTIONS IS AN INDEX OF THE INTELECTUAL POVERTY OF THE POPULACE

    THAT BARROW WASTED HIS TIME IN 1962 IS VERY EVIDENT!

  23. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @David | November 28, 2012 at 8:43 AM

    First let me reiterate my position on RE. I am all for it, especially in the area of solar technologies. My contributions to this blog can attest to that. I am also totally against any subsidies of fuels used to drive vehicles especially gasoline and diesel used in vehicles for domestic use in excess of 1,600 cc engines. As a matter of fact I believe these vehicles should be penalized unless they are hybrid.

    What Mia is arguing, and she does have a point, is that the fuel oil used to generate electricity should be subject to slightly different treatment. Why should Bajans pay world market prices on fuel oil processed from the crude oil from our own oil wells at Woodbourne and surrounding areas? How can our manufacturers and businesses compete with Trinidad businesses who are not faced with the same overtaxed world market prices?
    What can be argued is that the component of fuel oil supplied to the BL&P can be priced at a more competitive level to ease (not subsidized) the burden on electricity users until a more widespread use of alternative energies is transferred to our electricity distribution system without compromising or jeopardizing the viability of both the BNOC or the BL&P.
    A two-tier billing system could be introduced for the domestic consumption of electricity to ease the small consumers while at the same time penalizing the wasteful consumers as an incentive to conserve by using a higher rate per KWh after a reasonable notional consumption level not deemed conspicuous and wasteful.

    If you argue that instead of reducing the price of the local component of the fuel oil for electricity production the differential between the real cost of production and supply (including a capital charge or profit element) and world market prices plus excise tax is put in a special fund to finance and drive the RE movement especially in the direction to help the small or average man convert to RE usage instead of his existing total reliance on the BL&P production and distribution set up.

    As it stands only the high income earners or large businesses will be reaping any benefits from the RE transformation. In other words use a price penalty mechanism to help incentivize the ‘small man” transformation instead of all the price premium ending up in the Consolidated fund to prop up an inefficient, operationally sick and politically abused public sector before the arrival of the IMF doctor.

    Mia is first and foremost a politician and she has every right to sell her brand of energy policies which like or not resonate with the general electorate given the extensively comprehensive effects of electricity in determining the cost of living in Barbados.
    But the present pricing policy and allocation and use of revenues regarding the locally produced fuel oil cannot be justified on sound economic or policy grounds.

    Your turn, Sir!

  24. Nostradamus Avatar
    Nostradamus

    @ Caswell Franklyn

    “Jepter” that you refer to above used to work at CLICO?

  25. David Avatar
    David

    @Miller

    Can you advise what is the daily barrel consumption of fuel in Barbados? Can you advise how many barrels are processed by T&T?

  26. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David | November 28, 2012 at 11:53 AM |

    No. I don’t know the specifics at this stage. Maybe Anthony can step up to the plate on this one.
    But if you are talking about fuel oil used to generate electricity then the volume component processed from local crude oil production is estimated to be around 40%. The production of local crude is approx. 820 bbls per day with an equivalent return of fuel oil from Petrotrin.
    As I said our resident researcher on these matters is out good friend Anthony and I would not want to outguess him but to rely on his informed sources.
    However the principle contained in my argument still holds. Either reduce the FCA to reflect the lower local production cost component (no subsidies whatsoever) or use the excess premium (differential between world prices and local production prices) to fund the RE transformation to the ‘average’ man but not to go into supporting irrelevant duplicating, inefficient and unprofitable state agencies like Invest Barbados, BSIL, BADMC and even CBC.

  27. David Avatar
    David

    @Miller

    Your position is understood but BU’s position is that we have to adjust individual behaviours by driving the move to alternatives. Passing on oil market price as a push strategy is necessary. Reducing the FCA does not impact oil imports and forex outflow. Face it Miller, we have a philosophical difference here.

  28. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    It seems the retired PS William Layne, on today’s Brasstacks programme basically called the DLP a bunch of liars and deceitful hypocrites on the privatization debate.

    He said we should dismiss the foolishness talked on Tuesdays in our national talks hop.

    What he said does indeed have some merit when we consider the volte-face made yesterday by Sinckler when he completely distanced himself from any privatization agenda. Yet this same liar and hypocrite came on the same programme less than two weeks ago and made it abundantly clear that there were no fundamental or philosophical differences between the BLP and his party the DLP on the privatization matter.

    How can we trust a man like that? A man that allows his mouth to run like a sick nigger backside but doesn’t know where to find a toilet or knows the difference between his elbow from his arse?

  29. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    First let us move to LEGITIMIZE political parties. At present they are GHOST entities. They are NOT belong to any of the following categories Charities, NGO’s, Firms, Private or Public Limited Liabilities, Clubs or Associations, in fact they do NOT have a legal personality of any kind. Now how is this acceptable that the people charged with the responsibility of managing the nation’s purse or members of a institution that is not a tangible.

    Should it not be that all political parties be considered at the very least associations that are required to registered with an appropriately outfitted supervisory institution? Is it not from this point that the accountability and punishment for wrong doing that we all want could be pursued?

  30. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David | November 28, 2012 at 12:51 PM |
    “Face it Miller, we have a philosophical difference here.”

    No, we don’t! We are singing from the same philosophical hymn book but probably on different pages. Your existing position unfairly disadvantages the poor or small man who is least able financially to make the transition to RE dependency. There are no tax incentives that he can benefit from neither does he have the financial capacity to access loan capital to finance the RE crossover.
    As it stands the “small’ and financially disadvantaged man has to rely totally on the BL&P for his domestic power needs since RE options are out of his reach.
    He will be expected to carry the full cost burden resulting in obvious losses in revenue to the BL&P as a result of the move away from the grid by large businesses and well off RE
    domestic users.

    If we are to make RE a realistic and significantly measurable contributor to forex savings then we need to create disincentives to the wastage of energy generated from fossil fuels like gasoline and diesel for domestic vehicles and even in respect of excess electricity consumption in the public sector (government agencies) and at the domestic level.

    The miller as a compromise is for keeping the prices of fossil based fuels relatively high but to use the penalty price premiums to energize the RE transformation for the benefit of the financially “small” man by either giving grants to convert to RE installations or by targeting financially vulnerable groups through transfer assistance mechanism (increase welfare payments or the reverse tax credit option).
    As it stands now the small man is placed at a significant disadvantage. Certainly not in keeping with the professed policies of both political parties in the express desire to see the cost of living come within manageable and bearable proportions.

  31. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    @ BAFBFP

    Agreed, but you should go deeper. Barbados itself was set up as a corporation or royal charter and this raises fundamental questions for governance. We may ask questions like who is the sovereign? Is it the queen or the people? And about democracy. What does democracy means if corporations have high-jacked the process and the sovereign (the people) have no control on the formation and continuation of the modern corporation (royal charter)? If the people of Barbados are the sovereign why would its parliament, senate and other public officials promise to serve the queen. Of course, we suspect that you would have no difficulty with these ideas and would also agree that ‘we the people’ are meagerly political window dressing.

  32. David Avatar
    David

    @Miller

    Agree we need to define the ‘vulnerable’ but in this early transition phase the price shock caused by budgeting for market oil price changes should influence behaviour to move to energy savings mode. In the next phase we can look at implementing a safety net for the ‘vulnerable’. If this group does not feel the pain their behaviour will remain unchanged.

  33. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    It gives me great pleasure to invite one and all to the meeting of

    The Democratic Labour Party
    St. Michael West Branch

    At the St. Leonard’s Secondary School
    On Sunday December 02, 2012 at 4.00P.M. Sharp

    Featured Speaker:
    THE HON. FREUNDEL STUART Q.C. MP

    Other Speakers:
    Michael Carrington MP
    Chris Sinckler MP
    Dr. David Estwick MP
    Michael Lashley MP
    Dr. Ester Byer-Suckoo MP
    James Paul MP
    Patrick Todd MP

    TEAM DLP—————SECURING BARBADOS FOR YOU
    JOBS______________GONE WID OWEN

    Afterwards LIVE Entertainment featuring
    Dance National Afrique
    Jennifer Walker
    Karoake Compitition
    Good Fun, Good Food including Conkies and much more!!
    At the Constituency office.

    Please attend and be educated and stop coming on this blog writing foolishness.

    BTW bring along Caswell Franklyn, he will learn a thing or two. Kerry millertheanunnaki (neitherBnorD) you can come along as well, I know that Onions is too busy running the futile BLP campaign as a result he might not be able to attend, too bad for him.

    PS.
    Live Video streaming

    http://www.dlpbarbados.org

  34. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    “The Opposition Party promises to continue its policy to subsidize fuel is myopic in our view. In the same way a parent sometimes has to make unpopular decisions affecting the household, the same can be attributed to government.”

    I disagree!! A comprehensive approach that addresses the social, environmental, political and economic issues stemming from high fuel prices with long, medium and short-term objectives must be adopted. Only in Barbados with a 98% literacy and therefore the brightest of the brightest in the world we believe that we can jump from oil to alternatives.

  35. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    @ David

    “Your position is understood but BU’s position is that we have to adjust individual behaviours by driving the move to alternatives.”

    You speak as if the issue is about a WILLINGNESS TO PAY when the matter is about ABILITY TO PAY.

  36. David Avatar
    David

    @Enuff

    What do you mean ‘jumping’?

    The government has to lay the framework for alternative energy BUT it will be individuals who have to develop the appetite to integrate RE in the choices they make. To continue subsidising where individuals will have no inclination to change behaviour does not make sense. The current state gives tax credits for energy savings household implementations and there has been negligible take up.

    How should the transition be managed which is where we are at the moment.

  37. David Avatar
    David

    @enuff

    Who defines ‘ability’? The challenge is that we don’t want to adjust lifestyle ie. consumption habits. Of course we have the genuine cases of hardships and the vulnerable we have to factor however if we wait for the perfect design nothing will get done.

  38. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Pacha

    Thnx for seeing the issue as one of a core redefinition. The fact that politicians are comfortable swearing allegiance to a Queen without even considering a compromise position that would involve merely adjusting the constitutional phrase to include the people of Barbados is proof positive that the Political Party as is currently constructed has no place in an agenda of change.

    These party point men are frauds in a post colonial world and cannot be trusted to bring meaningful change to anything. Errol Barrow is not the father of independence, he is to my mind the unwitting instigator of this “royal charter”. Why the hell should these people be trusted with managing the Consolidated Fund and the Central Banks FX reserves …!

    If the parties cannot be legitimized out of fear of losing background financing from secret entities, well then this is sufficient justification to argue for conversion of the Senate into a politburo.

  39. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    @ David
    I support a Green Economy and I am not a now come when it comes to the issue either and that’s why I can tell you that the attitudinal change of which you speak takes years. By the way isn’t the government subsidising the TB and ZR operators and why?

  40. David Avatar
    David

    @enuff

    Government will always have to play a role and or intervene in the running of the economy. Hasn’t government stated for example that although it is hinged to a policy of passthru market price for fuel it will monitor and intervene if the world price exceeds a trigger point? This is a philosophical debate which we are having, there is no rule book. Greening in developed markets is still evolving but given the current world state one can expected that attitudinal change which occur from now will happen at an exponential rate.

  41. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Pacha

    Could you imagine a Senate that is composed of representatives from a variety of significant special interest groups …? Eg: one representative for rural districts and one for urban districts; one for Zoe and Georgie and one for the non-traditional church; one seat for Caswell’s people and one for private sector unions; one seat for animal and environment lobbyist and one for people like Mr Economist/Senator from the call in program; one seat for the Loveridge people including entertainment and restaurants, one for small and medium sized non-manufacturing, one for manufacturing concerns, and one for big business; one seat for a youth representative and one for retired people; one seat for women and another for men and if the gay community can be proven to exceed 2.5% of the population well they would be provided a seat at the card table. Each group will be responsible for determining who will represent it and the method with which the determination is made and the length of the term of service. NO chairs will reserved for a political party or any entity which cannot be legally identified … (I hope Bush don’ read this ’cause he got his own plan dat base pon de Credit Union model and I ain’ fightin’ he pon dat …)

  42. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    comprised

  43. David Avatar
    David

    @BABFP

    Why would the very people who currently benefit from the existing system promote the change you want?

  44. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    @ David
    Philosophical? More like REALITY vs FANTASY.

  45. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Enuff | November 28, 2012 at 6:37 PM |
    “By the way isn’t the government subsidising the TB and ZR operators and why?”

    That one really hurt David. It has destroyed all his previous arguments about inflating the pricing mechanism to change behaviours.
    Thanks, Enuff. We shall await David’s defence.

    BTW, the recent mouthing by Michael Lashley about a green housing policy again shows the shallowness of its green policy and transition to RE. Why construct only one house with RE installations out of a batch of 19 units? Why not all 19 units if the government is truly committed to RE and greening of the economy instead of these false PR stunts? The recent acquisitions of new MP & ML vehicles is also indicative of the government’s lack of seriousness or genuine commitment to their PR mouthings on RE and greening of the economy. At least they could follow the NPC’s example.

  46. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ BAFBFP
    “I hope Bush don’ read this….”
    ************
    …..read what?!?

  47. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @David of BU “Are BOTH Major Political Parties Capable of Lifting the Political Debate?”

    No.

    Too many marginal people in our House.

    And too many unthinking yard fowls in both parties.

  48. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    @ Miller
    Michael Lashley should be the last to talk about RE. His ministry had some of the best opportunities to utilise solar–Valery, Stuarts Lodge and Country Park all provided the perfect opportunity for solar panels. Coverley even worse!! Instead they are busy building banks, supermarkets and service stations though those services are within a 10-minute drive and available on the way to and from work, Anyone knows is the Day Nursery open yet? Even after Thompson said they were to be built near offices, the developers at Coverley provided(ing) one where the workers live.
    Isn’t it also funny that while preaching green is the future, we are busy encouraging international companies to drill for oil offshore?

  49. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @Carson C. Cadogan “The Barbados Labour Party has absolutely no respect for WOMEN. At the next general elections the women of Barbados WILL BEAT THEM with their X.”

    I’d like to see the Constitution changed to mandate that half of the seats in the House have to be occupied by women, who make up half the population.

    Then the parties would be oblidged to go out there and find 15 good women.

    Then we can dismiss half of the curent members who are useless anyhow.

    Can we have this debated in the House and here on BU?

  50. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Bush Tea

    I beg to be forgiven, I have not converted to you plan yet … I still trying with mine … 🙂

    David

    Well you have exposed the underlying folly of trying to have these jokers do the right thing …!

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