It Is Called Politics

Mia Mottley promised in reply to budget to restore pensions to Statutory Board workers

Employees of Statutory Boards are entitled to receive a pension after being employed for ten (10) or more years. However, in accordance with Section 32 A (1) of the Statutory Boards Pensions Act, Cap. 384, persons who were employed with Boards after September 1975 and are entitled to receive a pension shall have that pension reduced by the amount of pension payable by the National Insurance Office when this latter pension becomes due. It should be noted that those persons who were employed with the Boards prior to September 1975 would be entitled to a pension from the Board and the National Insurance Office without any reduction.

Our investigations revealed that the Statutory Boards have not been reducing the pensions of its former employees as required by the Law. This has resulted in these retirees receiving payments to which they are not entitled.

Auditor General’s Report 2011

Statutory Boards because of an oversight – BU suggests negligence -has resulted in several retirees receiving pension monies to which they have not been entitled over many years. One would have thought the error having been discovered should have been corrected forthwith. However the matter has become smothered in politics like most issues in Barbados. With a general election on the horizon the government is likely to not endear itself to pensioners who have had one pension cancelled.

Mia Mottley in her response to the Budget promised  to return the two pensions. Implied in the promise by Motley: should the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) assume the next government the Statutory Boards Pensions Act, Cap. 384 will be amended.

It is interesting we have not had more debate about this issue. In effect the BLP has promised to legitimize the illegal pension payments by Statutory Boards to those employed post-1975.

BU compares the BLP’s position on this matter to when government amended the Judicature Act to clear the way for CJ Marston Gibson’s appointment.

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  1. @miller

    How can you ridicule chris as a :liar: yet still support the biggest LIARS of them all OSA! but being A blp yardflow i wouldn’t expect nothing better. You guys are sooooooo disappointed that the DLP can submit such a “REALISTIC” budget when compared to the “FANTASY FUGHET” that MIA presented that wunna like tops keep Spinning ! and spinning ! like it or not Wunna yesterday policies have run their course and the old ideas that you guys keep retooling not gonn help the BLP get reelected. It is time the BLP sing a different tune. People like ‘brand and new” not recycled garbage that can only get you so far before the wheels drop off, OSA so desperate for recognition he in his selfish way wanted to keep parliament awake all night to talk about education and UWI when he had 14years to do all and above that shoulld have been done now at two in the morning wanting the spotlight on “Himself and pretending to care as usual it is all about “HIM: Not me i fell asleep


  2. Well said, miller. I couldn’t agree with you more!Do you notice that the Dems do not mention the dead king or hold him up even though they said he left a legacy! More CLICO money than a real legacy, I would say!


  3. I wonder if Stuart now that the Budget ova n dun wid…..would RING D Bell and put us poor souls out the suspense….of not know what will INCREASE NEXT…..price a gasoline or more increases in food prices…..cuz ya now see the trinidadians ready to flex….is the time now to show all the poppettering who is really boss….I hear they fire the whole top brass at Consolidated Finance….we shall see who comin in..and short out some from Brydens…


  4. islandgal,
    I was waiting to hear if he was going to say …we have the best civil service in the world! That’s Dems for you, only fluff!

    ac, good to see you on a DLP role again, I was at one time thinking that you were the lady who was the fiercest DLP defender on Brasstacks who passed away recently. Sorry, I wish you only the best!

    But you know that miller is right in his assessment of Chris Sinckler, he is a like a child with matches around a gas line in terms of being MOF. He is out of his depth and to cover his lack of knowledge, he turns into a thug and bully. That’s a fact!


  5. ac,
    What fresh budget you talking about. were you not listening when it was pointed out that a lot of the parts of the budget were cut and pasted from previous budgets! You hacks like to go on at Owen Arthur and the chief architect of this budget Frank Alleyne hitting hard for 80 and he got ideas but not Owen. Give me a break!


  6. BTW when last OSA Thank any body foranything expect for votes .i think and that i could be wrong. THe DLP is a class act having a man of integrity and honesty at the helm in PM STUART.

    island gal i have listened to that sweet hearted and good natured lady on Brass tacks just goes to show the right stuff the DLP supporters are made off.she will be miss by those who knew her and those who only heard her.

    Anyhow see how truth always trump perception. finally you have found out the truth in that all of your perception as to who the lady was was untrue . But not surprising that is the history of the BLP all PERCEPTION nothing to do with REALITY OR FACTS >


  7. @ ac
    Try swallowing this REALITY…..ONE TERM….

    PERCEPTION…….best Civil service in the Caribbean…NICE n Percy must be real please……


  8. @ ac | June 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM |
    “You guys are sooooooo disappointed that the DLP can submit such a “REALISTIC” budget when compared to the “FANTASY FUGHET” that MIA presented that wunna like tops keep Spinning ! and spinning ! like it or not Wunna yesterday policies have run their course and the old ideas that you guys keep retooling not gonn help the BLP get reelected.”

    Just a few snippets of the Nazi type propaganda reproduced below. Do they sound familiar? You hear lie! Those are lies!
    Mirror mirror on the ac wall who is the more lying of them both? B or D?

    In the first 100 days of the new DLP administration
    remove VAT from building
    materials on houses valued up to
    $400,000.
    _ Establish a Home Ownership Revolving
    Fund for public sector workers, providing
    interest free loans to appointed public
    servants with 5 years service who are first
    time homeowners. This fund will be capitalized
    with an initial injection of $40
    million

    new DLP administration will review the basket
    of goods on which VAT and other impositions
    have been removed. It is obvious that that basket
    is too limited and in light of the high incidence
    of chronic non-communicable diseases and
    the need for healthier eating among the population
    something must be done to ease the cost of
    foods that fall into these categories. We commit
    to expanding that basket significantly, following
    full consultation with sector stakeholders, consumer
    bodies, and nutritional experts. Equally we
    believe that the time has come for a more comprehensive
    review of the impact of price movements
    in basic food and other items in this country.
    Energy costs have risen more often than they have
    fallen in the last 2 years and this has driven up
    the cost of production. A new DLP
    administration will examine the feasibility
    of removing the VAT on utility
    bills for households and businesses
    alike.

    In the first 100 days introduce the Agriculture
    Protection Act that will require
    a 2/3 majority of both houses of parliament
    for a change of use of land from agriculture.
    We will reserve 30, 000 acres
    for agricultural use.

    Provide access to duty free motorcars for
    personal use for designated public servants

    The DLP administration’s attitude to accountability
    will be based on the understanding that as servants
    and representatives of the people there can
    be no secrets or matters to be hidden from the
    population. Consequently, a DLP administration
    will be accountable for its actions and policies
    and take the public into its confidence.
    Under a DLP government, the people will be kept
    informed of what the government is doing on their
    behalf through:
    Regular press briefings following meetings
    of the Cabinet of Barbados
    Press briefings by Ministries/Departments
    to inform Barbadians of major developments
    and changes
    The publication of details of agreements
    and contracts involving the government
    and its agencies
    Formal Ministerial statements at regular
    intervals on the progress of ongoing programmes
    and projects
    A revision of and adherence to the rules
    regarding Parliamentary questions


  9. I am still waiting for the BLP yardfowls to tell the public where the 500 million dollars for the Tourism Fund will come from ?
    The silence is deafening. The BLP really think Bajans stupid-stupse! Coming in parliament and telling big lies.
    Either the BLP planning to send home thousands of public sector workers or they are lying. Which one is it?


  10. ac,
    The lady was a DLP hack like you. One day, after reciting her talking points, David Ellis asked her if there was anything that the DLP has done wrong, she said no. The DLP has made no mistakes. You call that being political honesty! She did on Brasstacks what you do on this blog….. spin DLP bull…..!


  11. Fat ass Mia boomed BNOC should forego making a profit so Bajans could get cheap electricity on another point of order fat ass Duguid said if BNOC is only making a profit of 37 cents on a barrel of oil it would be bankrupt and out of business. The 2 hefty jokers did not even know they were contradicting each other. Anybody else picked up the stupidity of them 2?. Lord come for your world.


  12. @ Prodigal

    No respect ! cuhdear!

    @ miller

    Can’t even imagine the disappointment and let down the DLP felt when on arriving to take up the helm . instead of finding money to implement the policies they had so proudly and truthfully given to they electorate found a basket of DEBT! and to add insult to injury they then had to asked the people for their support to clean up the ugly and despicable mess OSA and the crew after 14years left behind. now you REALLY in your right mind asking me and others to give the BLP another chance to crave out a road of deception again. Even MIA should have think twice before laying out a table of impossible practicalities at the feet of the electorate and expecting them to eat. somewhere somehow i smell a stinking BLP RAT!


  13. @ Prodigal
    Boss when you want to take about a bull- s- talker… chk D [!] above…sometimes I wonder if he is a man or a woman…D [!] like apiece of gum..on your shoe….heshe does keep sayin the same ole Shoite endless..”the BLP will fool who they want to foll “..like a F-ing Macaw parrot…..when the DLP gets there ass whip I coming fa shehe…(if a cud find he)….I go make shehe soooo miserable with the same lingo…. Mr.parrot…they aint teach you nutting else…?( Doan answer a beg)


  14. Prodigal said ….”.I was waiting to hear if he was going to say …we have the best civil service in the world!”…….you know I thought that he might have come off with that as well. The PM didn’t learn that self praise is no praise at all? What has happened to being humble? Stupse …The PM has to stop this chest thumping because it is only making him look like a bigger fool to the rest of the Caribbean. Why do this government keep trying to look good for outsiders instead of trying to improve the public service for the locals? Stupse I am soooo tired of all this lotta long talk and hot air.


  15. You know I expected a higher level of debate and maturity from the BLP.
    Anyone can tell you that the external environment of 2012 is not that of 1999 but yet the BLP spent sooooo much time doing just what they criticise the government for – looking back and of course cherrypicking what they want to highlight and selectively ignoring others.

    In this environment instead of bold or imaginative policies the BLP chose the low road of cheap politics and deception – promising everything to everyone to catch votes – 500 million tourism fund with no specific mention of cuts , millions for this, millions , for that, you want tax cuts – sure , more pension- sure.

    Unfortunately for the opposition , people are a lot more intelligent than they beleive.

    The BLP could have engaged at a serious level instead we got a lame attempt to engage in electioneering with unrealistic promises which not even the BLP supporters can explain how they will be funded.
    The BLP response was a clear exercise in dishonesty and disingenuousness.
    .


  16. AC….you sure sounding like the Minister of Education pon dis blog. You sure yuh ent he in disguise? Aren’t you tired of repeating yourself over and over again.? Give it up! Your party and Government have been a total disappointment to the people of Barbados and there is no way you are going to change that. Please take of your rose tinted glasses and look the BULL in the face and see exactly what is in front of you.


  17. AC said…. “island gal i have listened to that sweet hearted and good natured lady on Brass tacks just goes to show the right stuff the DLP supporters are made off.she will be miss by those who knew her and those who only heard her.”
    AC ….. like Prodigal, I thought that it might have been you and I am glad that you are here to let us know that you are still alive and kicking and still brainwashed.


  18. Listener .The blp could not even come up with an original idea in the budget. Look get real the bunch of incompoops really think that the public doesnt understand economics. imagine giving away what you don;t have or can’t afford to give .because if one has high debt it doesn’t take an economist to tell anyone which would be first preference.but then again some people like to PRETEND that they have so much. most people see and understand the charade the BLP put on. however the DLP going to hold the BLP feet to the fire and make them tell the people how they are going to pay for the freebies. Can;t wait to hear the explanation! this is going to interesting. i think BNOC has some fat that the BLP might find inviting!


  19. @ island you are beginning to sound confuse. First i was an anonymous lady on BRASS STACKS> NOW i am MINISTER Ronald JONES! HUH!
    repeating what repeating. more like REMINDING! you and others what the DLP did over the past fourteen years was for naught . NO VISION! just WASTE! and WASTE and now the taxpayers got to PAY! and PAY! not a pretty picture ! could understand how you would rather fughet now we have Alice and her merry band of cohorts travelling down the yellow brick road crying doom and gloom and not wanting to take responsibility for any of it .JUST a FRIENDLY REMINDER!


  20. Just like the DLP forced the BLP’s hand in calling the general elections in 2008, the BLP can do the same to the DLP now. All that has to be done is for Duguid, who is resigning at the end of this parliamentary term, to tender his resignation NOW, this would force either a by–election or a genaral election. To call a by-election would show the timidness in the DLP to call a general, and to call a general could/would lead to their demise, either way the tension between the two parties at this stage will be eased.


  21. ac
    To be constantly saying the BLP did nothing for 14 years, is not only a lie but a slap in the face of the same voting public you want to support the DLP now. Think before you write, the BLP didn’t election themselves, they were elected by the voting public and more so ,in the second term the DLP only could muster 2 seats. Stop trying to degrade the voting public to junk like the IMF and S&P will do your DLP government just now.


  22. @millertheanunnaki | June 29, 2012 at 5:31 PM
    And David.
    Yes you are, of course, quite correct in correcting my “fawlty” mathematics. It is $1750 not $1730 on the remaining $5000. Apologies to all. Only excuse I can think of is my Brumley edikashun, except of course de ol eyes not wukkin so good dese days as well as de spellin can be real atrocious a lot o de times. Ta fuh de helpout Mr. Miller. . . . . 🙂 Now I in real hot water wid de Inland Revenue. I wonder how much interest I gine got tuh pay fuh short payin DEMs de $20. Never minds yuh could always gih meh a vist up dey in Sin Philip by Dodds wey DEMs gine sen meh. Site?


  23. !
    the truth can be proven by facts, he is a bigger liar than you think, thats why the blp dont like freundel, he is not corrupt or is he a liar.


  24. @ISland Gal et al

    Barbados has the best Public Service in the Caribean and one of the best paid, and that is no idle boast. Tjos of us who have to travel around the carribean would know. Dont forget it is comapred against the systems that in existence in each country, the level of corruption, among other things.

    I am sure that the Prime Minister will tell you that there is room for improvement, remember he was doing a compartive analysis. So please dont get tie up when he said the best in the caribbean.


  25. @Scout

    follow your logic, the electorate will decide whether they want the blp or the dlp to form the next government, Just chiil, elections will be called when the govt thinks fit, and you might get or not get your wish.


  26. @Islandgal

    As ac said, you sure aint a thinker, how coul u have thought that she was Ronald Jones with the stance she took on the blog in realation to the AX matter. Think carefully before you write. Didnt you and a lot others said that Ronald Jones was/is the Principal’s friend. Then your reasoning sont add up.


  27. !
    it is clearer now that Cloin Jordan was supported in his action by the BLP. Where the hell them can find that money, and by the way, the govt heavily subsidise the hotel industry, The plot thickens. Now some foreign sounding lady that said she is the president of BHTA talking shite that the govt any had anyhting in the budget for them. I would like to meet she and clin jordan and brrese them. And ask them who de hell them in that industry think they are, blasted thieves


  28. Arthur and the BLP are constantly firing at their DLP foe. Those bullets sad to say are JUST BLANKS. The Al Barrack monster mess we know originated during the days of Owen Arthur. Like it or not Bajans, the BLP government under leadership of Owen Arthur and Mia Mottley awarded Al Barrack Construction Company a thirty six million dollor contract WITHOUT TENDER. The court in 2006 ruled in favor of Barrack for 34.4 million. Barrack in 2008 received 2.5 million from the David Thompson administration but nothing from Arthur. He, Arthur instead of surrendering payment of some kind to Al Barrack invested 2.4 million dollars into a Nigerian Water Heater project. No water heaters were produced and the 2.4 million was lost and or unaccounted for. Now, now Arthur, that was some magician trick “now you see it, 2.4 million, now you don’t, 2.4 million. The 75,000 cheque perhaps was one of your magician tricks. Something went wrong. The cheque didn’t disappear. It was discovered walking into Owen’s personal banking accoung.

    Al Barrack in 2008 became Thompson’s problem. It was FIRST Arthur’s problem. The Al Barrack mess was born in 2006 under leaderhip of Owen Arthur and the BLP. Arthur was responsible for that Al Barrack mess NOT Thompson. Arthur has a moral responsiblility to fix the Al Barrack mess NOT Thompson. Chris Sinckler, Minister of Finance, what he said is true to the bone. “The contractor [Al Barrack] should not direct his anger at the present government and its effort to settle the matter. . . . he knows where this mess started and should focus his attention on them [Owen Arthur and the BLP] while we use our best efforts. . . to resolving this matter. Arthur, believe it or not said ” REDjet Airlines might still be flying if the Barbados Government had honoured its financial commitment to the collapsed airline”. Arthur, get your reading glasses if needed “READ THESE WORDS” if the government under your leadership had honoured its financial commitment to Contractor Al Barrack, Barbados NOW would not owe him seventy five million. Bajans owe REDjet Airlines nothing, absolutely nothing. They, however, owe Al Barrack seventy five million. The Barbados Water Authority in 2009 was near bankrupcy. The 60% water rate increase was a gift from Arthur and the BLP due to the Barbados Water Authority problems totaling thirteen years. The Barbados Water Authority is a government corporation. The government under Owen Arthur for thirteen years apparently paid no attention to the Barbados Water Authority, what they were doing and not doing. They, the BLP apparently never thought to look inside the Barbados Water Authority house just to see WHAT’S GOING ON. Yes, Arthur should keep his damn mouth shut. Yes, Arthur is pure dee stupid and yes, Arthur has put Barbados in a sorry mess.

    Barbados is a relatively small island and has been independent since 1966. It’s economy relies on sugarcane cultivation, rum and tourism. Like other countries, the Barbados economy is at moment fighting for survival. The current opposition leader, Owen Arthur says he believes he has the medicine to cure the Barbados economy problem. It [the economy] is a mess right now, but we can fix it”. Barbados, Mr. Arthur is seriously ill. The economy is just one of many things aggrevating it. One of them is the Al Barrack. Al Barrack is a mess right now. Al Barrack, don’t forget Mr. Arthur was born during the government under your leadership. Al Barrack, don’t forget Mr. Arthur was FIRST your problem. The Al Barrack problem, Mr. Arthur must be fixed. Opposition spokesperson, Mia Mottley on 06/27/2012 outlined a 2012 – 2013 a new BLP would put in place. Interesting, Al Barrack is not put into that budget outline. The 2012 – 2013 budget, additionally will hold all persons responsible for CLICO. That’s rather hilarious and embarrassing. Really it is because the BLP is responsible for Al Barrack and the BLP is responsible for the 60% water rate increase. Yes, Mottley should keep her damn mouth shut. Yes, she is pure dee stupid.


  29. i can understand scout’s impatience with wanting to have the election called sooner rather than later because sooner would mean giving the BLP a free pass and the less damage the DLP would have to inflict on the BLP and highlighting their despicable 14years of SPEND and WASTE but that is not going to happen scout because bajans MUST be Reminder daily and constantly that the BLP econcondomistic policies of the past has = to HIGH DEBT and taxpayers pain and suffering NOW! so scout the DLP has alot to reveal about the BLP before elections is called fasten your SEAT BELT it is going to be a BUMPY RIDE!


  30. @SCOUT

    Comparatively speaking my quick analysis of the BUDGETis that the DLP has shown a measure of responsibilty through a visionary approach. one which i must compliment them. while the BLP has clinged to the OLD APPROACH of “GIVE AWAYS” one that NO DOUBT would lead to higher BORROWING! nothing new or visionary.! simply put we have a government who has embarked the country on the NEW while the BLP is stil stuck in the PAST.


    • AC

      It would appear that you missed my concise analysis of the Budget. It can best be described as all froth and no beer.


  31. @Caswell

    Even the partisan must admit that the focus on renewable energy is desirable and comes maybe 10 years too late. The objective to reduce the base cost for energy which helps business, saves forex and mitigate exogenous shocks to the economy. The criticism of the government is that it should have delivered such a budget 2 years ago.


  32. To the pint …….”Barbados has the best Public Service in the Caribean and one of the best paid, and that is no idle boast.”

    If that were true about the civil service why put the other islands down by broadcasting it?. Does it make you feel good? If you are the best you don’t need to boast it will speak for itself. It is like a drunk saying that he is not an alcoholic and trying to convince himself and others that he is not. Keep thumping your chest and see how far that will get you.


  33. @ISLAND GAL

    So whats wrong with praising YOUR OWN. people like you are so accustomed to bad mouthing bajans that when the PM heaps praise you find it repulsive THE repulsive mouthings of OSA have indeed done psychological damage to the strident following and it is as evident as the damage OSA did to the economy! Sorry fuh WUNNA!.Wunna suffering from a heavy dose of psychological trauma inflicted over the past 14years


  34. How can any intelligent Barbadian not see that this is a mature, developmental budget which would lead to sustainable growth in the Barbados economy.
    This budget addresses the structural issues :
    Alternative Energy – The most incentives ever offered for renewable energy in any budget in the history of Barbados- simply BRILLIANT!
    It is clear that unless we lessen the dependence of this economy on oil , we will continue to be exposed to massive shocks when the price fluctuates.These policies combined with the excellent work which Dr. Estwick is doing in moving the Natural gas pipeline discussion forward is exactly the right direction for energy policy in Barbados.

    50% REDUCTION in the interest rate on loans from Student Revolving Fund in areas that will strengthen our competitivenesseg: network technologies,photovoltaic and wind generation,mobile and web applications, etc. Great move by an obviously visionary government.

    Broadening the economic enfranchisement of Barbadians through initial public offerings of 30% of shares in GAIA,The oil company and the Port.

    Health care expenditure on NCD’S can be reduced if we have greater focus on preventative care and screening- the $750 “ounce of prevention” tax credit directly speaks to this issue.

    Increase in the tax threshold from 24 200 – 35 000 is a definite and significant ease for many persons.

    I couls go on and on. The government presented an excellent budget in the context of the current economic environment and resisted the immature approach of promising things are not practicable at this time.
    We all have our political preferences but credit mjust be given where it is due.


  35. @islandgal

    The PM’s comment must be taken in context, it is the silly season and being a politician he is wooing a rather large constituent of the voter block.


  36. @Miller Jun29 637pm
    Your analysis of Chris Sinckler is absolutely on the money.In a scale of 1-10 you have my 10 for that brief overview of the member’s attitude and total lack of decorum.What he has failed to recognise is that to earn the respect of others you have first to respect yourself.Sinckler has no self respect.


    • @Frater

      Did you feel the same way about Lammie Craig? What about Harold Eastmond? Sinckler has a style which resonates with a large body of the electorate and it was recently supported in the CADRES Poll.


  37. it was a moral incentive which the PM utlised to boast moral among his employees more often than not an employee produces more when they feel as if they are appreciated. by their employer .


  38. @ the scout | June 29, 2012 at 9:27 PM |
    “All that has to be done is for Duguid, who is resigning at the end of this parliamentary term, to tender his resignation NOW, this would force either a by–election or a genaral election. ”

    Now that’s what you call high level strategic thinking! I would have awarded you top marks if you had displayed such level reasoning in a political science thesis.

    But scout, the practicalities of the situation might militate against such a move. Maybe Duguid is considering the pension implications of resigning without serving a full term this time around. He doesn’t need the money given his real estate portfolio, but one never knows.

    Such a move would expose Freundel and might confirm what some people already think of him – as an indecisive, vacillating man totally out of his league when it comes to leadership.
    This would force his hand and remove from his lips the arrogance and contempt he holds of the electorate as if we don’t already know that under our Westminster system of government the PM is the one given the right to call general elections before it becomes constitutionally over due.
    Such a big foot move would back him up in a corner and cause him to reveal the date of elections that he presumably walks around with in his back pocket to keep his minions in check.


  39. @ac | June 29, 2012 at 8:35 PM |
    “Can’t even imagine the disappointment and let down the DLP felt when on arriving to take up the helm . instead of finding money to implement the policies they had so proudly and truthfully given to they electorate found a basket of DEBT!”

    Why was the DLP disappointed? Was it not the same party that went all over Barbados accusing the BLP administration of corruption and stealing from the treasury to enriched themselves and friends?
    How do you expect to find money in a treasury that was allegedly pillaged during 14 years of BLP corruption, squandermania and economic decline?
    But speaking with a forked tongue can lead you, “ac” into a political cul-de-sac. How can the Fatted Calf be slaughtered and shared among DLP politicians & Yardfowls as promised by the dead king when there was nothing left after the BLP feasting but a dead economic carcass?

    If the DLP political preachers promoted themselves as Saviours to the poor Bajan people and would rescue them from the depressing and exploitative yolk of the BLP why did the same DLP administration, instead of removing the massive millstone of Debt around the people’s necks, have the gall and disdain to increase the debt burden twofold.

    Answer that, “ac,” without cussing poor OSA!


  40. If Duguid resigned and left the country now, he would definitely do the cconstituents of Christ Church West and the country a big,fat favour.(no pun intended)!
    He makes no meaningful contribution in Parliament and the thing is the girl that they sent to replace him is worst.
    They certainly are not fit to replace a Sir Henry Forde. this is the weakest and worst set of BLP candidates that has ever been presented. – a power hungry group looking to restore their bank accounts after a 4 year vacation.


    • @miller

      In recent dates you have been uncharacteristically scathing in your comments of the DLP, have you experienced a millerlite moment…lol?

      When all is said and done it’s politics. We had Arthur cussing Immigration Officers in his last term and we have Stuart putting his civil service above the others?

      Of the two which should we take if there was a choice?


  41. The BLP yardfowls like to talk about the increase in debt. If you do not want to increase debt, you will have to cut expenditure- that is send home thousands of public sector workers- plain and simple.

    This government could have done that and the books would look better but you know what – the same BLP supporters that are now talking about debt would be on this blog talking about the poor civil servants who were sent home and could not feed their families .
    There would have been public meetings at every corner talking about the poor civil servants and the same politicians who right now are talking about the debt would have been saying that the government should have maintained the public sector employment which would have kept a level of aggregate demand in the economy.
    There you have it- they criticise you when you do and if you don’t they will still criticise and as we saw in the budget the BLP brings nuff criticsm and no realistic solutions.
    If the BLP proposals were realistic will someone please tell the country how the 500 million tourism fund announced by Alice in Wonderland will be financed- Jokers.
    The BLP will fool those who allow themselves to be fooled.


  42. @ Islandgal246 | June 30, 2012 at 7:11 AM |
    If that were true about the civil service why put the other islands down by broadcasting it?. Does it make you feel good? If you are the best you don’t need to boast it will speak for itself. It is like a drunk saying that he is not an alcoholic and trying to convince himself and others that he is not. Keep thumping your chest and see how far that will get you.’

    One wonders if the same PM would be so inclined to boast not only about our excellent and effective Civil Service and our dynamic educational system producing thinkers and innovators but also about our ownership and control of our economic landscape where decisions regarding its make up and direction are made in Bridgetown and not n Port-of-Spain or Canada.


  43. ….a little disappointed with miller’s suggestion that to ” big up” your own civil service is somehow putting others down….
    This is what would be expected from any good boss…. Praise in public and correction in private….

    Why take the politics overboard….
    …besides, pissy as they are, there are BY FAR the best in the region…. 🙂


  44. @Bush Tea | June 30, 2012 at 11:58 AM |
    “Why take the politics overboard….
    …besides, pissy as they are, there are BY FAR the best in the region…”

    Do not compare yourself with others; you might become vain and bitter.
    Mediocrity compared with mediocrity can only reveal mediocrity.

    I am sure a lot of people in the International Business Sector (and stridently supported by other locals including politicians from both side of the divide) would not agree the Civil Service is excellent.

    Do you know that the Ministry of Agriculture has more workers with PhDs that any other sector of Barbados? Now look at the state of agriculture!

    When the bureaucrats can remove a significant percentage of the almost 30,000 unlicensed vehicles from the roads of tiny Barbados we will listen to the praises of the effectiveness of the civil service. People who have been involved in road accidents involving unlicensed and uninsured vehicles would not be too impressed with that vaunted efficiency.


  45. @Miller

    dont u understand the basic of logic, when you are doing a compartive analysi you use benchmarks, why do you think there are words, such as good,better and best. Think before your politcal blinkers casue you to have to get eye surgery. Your post should be compared against the public service in the caribbean, therefore bring the information from the regions, agaisnt what u have posted and then the debate can continue, else accpt that you are like a fish out of water on this one.

    @Island Gal

    Your logic is still faulty.


  46. @ David | June 30, 2012 at 11:47 AM |

    “@miller: In recent dates you have been uncharacteristically scathing in your comments of the DLP, have you experienced a millerlite moment…lol?”

    Just a miller”high” with the help of some stuff from your friend Techkie.

    Seriously, though David, I am rather concerned about the management of this country. I recently spent some time in the UK and Europe and I can tell you that what is ahead of us is a tsunami of economic and social trouble. It is time Bajans wake up and smell the coffee. The lackadaisical way we are treating issues and disrespecting the rule of law would only result in our undoing as a well managed and prosperous third world country. The recent announcements by the AG is indicative of the backwardness and paucity of the intellectual capital of this administration.

    I want to agree with Hal Austin’s assessment of the current state of affairs in Bim.
    It’s time the people in this country stop with the lot of long talk and start doing to save our souls from the approaching storm.
    Are we going to see government’s propaganda in the form of “greening the economy” translated into reality on the ground? Are we going to see the ML &MP vehicles reconfigured to reflect this important policy or is it just a case of bragging for electioneering and vote wining outcomes?
    Where there is NO Vision (Leadership) the People Perish.


    • @miller

      Agree to your serious point. To use the word benchmark which has been tossed about this morning. Look at the contribution to some of the blogs which address concerns about land use etc? Scan Facebook and see the Bajan groups with number thousands but what?

      Bajans will have to be shocked into a Christian understanding about what is sliding down the economic chute. Perhaps this is what Senator Dr Frances Chandler tried to do when she used extreme language to make the about about what it would take Bajans to embrace the need for food security. Instead some of our hungry politicians grasped the political opportunity to demonstrate and engage in vacuous offerings.


  47. Why must people compare themselves with the other islands? Where does that get them? It will only further inflate an already large ego. But how does that help us? Miller I agree that “Mediocrity compared with mediocrity can only reveal mediocrity.”
    “Do not compare yourself with others; you might become vain and bitter.” Miller I am afraid that has already set in and that is how the Barbadian is referred to by the islanders.


  48. We need to stop looking over the ocean at others and start looking into our own back yards to take care of our business.


  49. @To the point | June 30, 2012 at 12:32 PM |
    “@Miller .. dont u understand the basic of logic, when you are doing a compartive analysi you use benchmarks, why do you think there are words, such as good,better and best.”

    What about bad, worse, worst?

    Anything coming from the mouth of FS that refers to the superlative excellent, or hyperbolic terms such as “well managed or “outstanding performance or “my estimable friend” one should be exceedingly wary and evaluate it in the same way he assesses the authenticity of friendship.

    His high praises for CLICO and its management leaves one with no other option but to take any lofty commendation from this source with a grain of hypocritical salt.


  50. Islandgal246

    I have come to the conclusion that you are not a Bajan. You are always critical of Bajans whenever they stand up for this country.
    What is wrong with a leader of a country saying positive things about his people?
    The Prime Minister praised the Civil service by making the point that the reason Haiti was having so many problems is because of the organization of the Public service.

    Can you see what you people are doing to us because of our good nature? You lock up our fishermen, would not import our products, take over our business and then shut them down or restructure them.
    I am praying that Butch Stuart do not get Almond because I feel he is going to do the same thing like what he did at Paradise.
    Bajans must read the plot and see why the other Caricom people want the DLP out. They are vex about paying for medicines. Mia says she with remove that. They were told to go home and wait for a call; Mascoll says bring them back because Barbados needs them to increase the population so that more production can be achieved. What about our social services Mr. Mascoll?


  51. Clone you don’t get tired of drivel …..DESPERATION PLEAS again…
    You ever hear about NICE and why it was set up ? If I did not eat so much puddin n souse…I would take you on…but I now leave you to Islandgal to masticate ya..lol


  52. You line up the skills sets of the ministers of the current DLP government ( Freundel Stuart, Dr. David Estwick, Darcy Boyce, Chris Sinckler, Richard Sealy, John Boyce, Donville Inniss, Harry Husbands, Adriel Brathwaite, Dennis Kellman, etc, etc, etc, and you line up the skill sets of the current candidates of the opposition BLP and a very strong and convincing argument can be made that the “paucity of the intellectual capital” actually lies in the BLP with the worst set of BLP candidates ever foisted on the people of this country.
    You can spend all day cussing the government but as we saw in the last budget debate when it was time for specifics on spending cuts and solutions, what did we get from the BLP – Alice in Wonderland and a bunch of wild , irresponsible promises that not even the BLP supporters can tell you how they could possibly be paid for.
    The BLP will fool those who allow themselves to be fooled.


  53. Clone | June 30, 2012 at 2:02 PM |
    “Can you see what you people are doing to us because of our good nature? You lock up our fishermen, would not import our products, take over our business and then shut them down or restructure them.”

    So you want to blame “others”?
    Listen Clone, Bajans must look in the mirror and ask the same question EWB posed: What is their mirror image?
    People from outside can’t take over your businesses and land unless you Bajans sell out for foreign exchange to import unhealthy processed foods, cheap Chinese goods and Japanese & Korean vehicles not designed for the Bajan makeover cart roads carved out to haul canes by mule cart to the plantations and sugar factories.


  54. @ ! | June 30, 2012 at 2:55 PM |

    That surfeit of ‘misplaced’ educational achievements is indicative of the level of mediocrity and failure to translate paper qualifications into doable outcomes to advance the development of the country. A bunch of educated jackasses! Don’t you think that if the Bajan public see them in such an estimable light that their ratings and popularity would surpass the BLP and its leaders?

    But then again, !, you don’t believe or accept Wickham polls unless they are the ones leading up to 2008 Elections.

    I don’t expect you to be fair here at all. You accept polls when they are anti Owen or BLP but reject them when they reflect the general feelings of the electorate.


  55. Some people are so selffdestructive some one gives a compliment and in response the compliment is seen as an insult a good employer always value their emPloyees it also show the character of the one who is giving the complimentsno sense on beating up on people in these harsh economic times UNBELIEVABLE that people would find the PM actions demeaning and derogatary.SHADES of OSA


  56. The comparison between who is being offered on both sides is worthy of debate. There is no evidence that the BLP can bring anything new, different and most importantly better to the table.
    It is one thing to spend all day cussing a government but then the opposition must show clearly solutions. BLP supporters should recognise that this is not 1994 and the world is a different place but thr BLP is beleiving its own propaganda and therefore they beleive that there is an easy , magical pie in the sky solution and this was proven by the wreckless budget response by Alice in Wonderland.


  57. balance | January 2, 2012 at 9:39 PM |
    no mr babfp, it is my understanding that mr franklyn was in the chair. and i can’t understand why commentators continue to knock the BL&P when there is evidence to indicate that the lion share of the light bill costs go to government and for some reason bloggers including the learned mr franklyn are either conveniently ignoring this view or are afraid for some reason to discuss it
    MR MILLER- THIS POST SHOULD INDICATE TO YOU THAT I WAS NOT CRAVING CREDIT.


  58. Clown……Can’t a Bajan criticize their own? Is this how the PM is making Barbados ” the envy of the Caribbean once more”? If the civil service is doing a great job then commend them on that instead of trying to put others down in the process. It does not help our image one bit and we should not go around boasting to all about our accomplishments. They will shine regardless and others will see. You have forgotten in the 40″s, and the 50’s many Bajans went to the islands to work and seek a better life. Remember no man is an island.

    You sound like you have eaten a fowl gall. We are an open economy and if people like you won’t invest in local businesses you should stop braying.Don’t blame me that the flying fish have packed up and jumped ship because it has become too expensive to live in these waters.

    Now you blaming the Caricom community for trying to get the DLP out? Lawd you bazoodee or what? Clown you are turning too many cart wheels so sit down and take a rest.


  59. Onions….you are welcome to take on the Clown. And thank you for the support (I can’t believe that I am thanking Onions). Today I am on my best behaviour.


  60. “The PM’s comment must be taken in context, it is the silly season and being a politician he is wooing a rather large constituent of the voter block.”

    the dlp is the recipient of much goodwill from the management bloc in the public service who were indoctrinated to believe that Mr Barrow gave them free education and they owe their success in life to the dlp’ consequently they support the dlp even though by and large the blp has been more generous in the overall scheme of things to the public service than he blp.phyrric praise might well be in order with elections around the corner but words must be matched by deeds. i for one am grateful to Mr Arthur for restoring my 8% and allowing me to retire with $200. more than i would have received with the cut in place; casual workers ought to be eternally grateful for having had their pension rights placed on the same status as established workers and the blp administration guaranteed the loan against opposition from the dlp to enable the nupw to construct a monstrousityin dalkeith road for the benefit of public workers. the bottom line is that arthur cusses them and gives them something tangible ; mr stuart praises them with nothing to show for it. words, words, words must be matched with deeds, deeds, deeds.


  61. @ To the point….”I would like to meet she and clin jordan and brrese them. And ask them who de hell them in that industry think they are, blasted thieves………………

    Find them and do just that. That is the only way you Dems operate….in the gutter, you only practice nasty politics. Any one that dares to disagree with the DLP is subject to abuse by the DLP. You are are sorry excuses for civility.


  62. Amused are you suggesting to the PM to dig into the coffers because words alone are cheap? LOLLL And that action speaks louder than words?


  63. I am now here reading today’s Sun.

    I cannot believe what I am reading. Chris Sinckler cursing Colin Jordan.

    Just hear the thug…….”I am saying to you that even with your political leanings, when you are holding a national office as serious and senior as head of the BHTA, you have to at least comport yourself in a way that does not reflect that kind of cheap bias that we’re seeing”.

    The thug goes on to say…. “I am saying the comments and the way in which the comments were made by the former head of the BHTA brought no honour to that institution and tried to destroy the image of the office of the PM”.

    Is this the same Chris Sinckler who was the gang leader who tried to overthrow the leadership of the PM? Did your actions bring any honour to the office of the PM? Far from it, the PM said the necks of the plotters would be popped!

    Did not your doings so destroyed the image of the PM, that he is forever perceived as weak and indecisive?

    Is this the same Chris Sinckler who told a BOLD face lie that he did not know anything of a plot to oust the PM but later had to do a tell it all admitting that he was the leader and that when the plot was exposed, all the plotters left him holding the bag?

    Chris Sinckler, you are the worst.


  64. This comment was meant for Balance………. are you suggesting to the PM to dig into the coffers because words alone are cheap? LOLLL And that action speaks louder than words?


  65. @ Clone “What is wrong with a leader of a country saying positive things about his people”?…………………………..

    Because it is empty praise and he only wants their vote. He knows that the public workers are mad at this government for their broken promises of duty free cars, lowering the cost of living, taxing their allowances to virtually reducing their take home pay while not giving them salary increases for years and all the while increasing VAT.

    So this was just empty rhetoric coming from an out of touch PM.


  66. @Island gal

    your reasoning is stupid, what putting down what, you have been caought with your panties down in your stupid reasoning and dont want to admit. When you have the eleven plus results and you promote those who got the best marks, ar you putting down the others, or are you saying against the becnhmark of 100 these students reached that or against 90 0r 80 etc.

    Simple as that red woman.


  67. @Miller

    what about owen denying there was a report in the house when it is on record, what about he not knowin about vesco and when the evidence was produced, what ab0ut the supervisor of insurance bringing to his attention his concersn about clico and he not acting. what about him having levied a hidden tax on barbadains that was collected by i think bnoc. Do you want more or is that enough.


  68. colin jordan want cussing and i am happy that sombebody got the balls to cuss the house nigger, that ungrateful bastard.


  69. @Caswell

    nobody cares if you think if is froth or not, the point is that some ease came to those paying income tax, and your party buget presentation was ransid piss.


  70. @David Jun30 9.59am
    I have heard Sinckler on the platform and I found it difficult to believe that he spent some time on the hill.In terms of class and style he did not learn anything,no more than what he picked up in his formative years.He will not impress many because he has not learned the utility of presentation in public speaking.
    In respect of the poll and your contention that his style resonates with a large body of the electorate,the bottom line is this.Whereas the poll suggests that Sinckler is more popular than Stuart as a leader,the results of the national poll of 2008 and that Cadres poll of 2012 indicate a win for Stuart in StMS and a possible loss for Sinckler in StMnorthwest,in other words his seat is on the line.That is the bottomline.Stuart shows lots of class;Sinckler none. whatsoever.


  71. remember it was Mr Barrow who titled the public service as an army of occupation a reference much used up to this day to malign public servants by painting all with the same brush. perhaps Mr Stuart’s comments are intended to redress the insult.better late than never. thank you Mr Stuart.


  72. The photo of Mr Sinckler and Mr Arthur on the backpage of today’s saturday speaks volumes and should send the appropriate signals to those diehard dlp and blp supporters and apologists that parliament is a fraternity.that caters to the gullibilty of an electorate through the staging of political theatrics by the players from time to time. in the final analysis, there is hardly any love lost between members of the brotherhood.


  73. A look of bewilderment on Chris face in the picture as if Chris was thinking’ what de hell is this man talking about? he just doesn’t get it! a picture is indeed worth a thousand words


  74. David an excellent comment re the comparison with Arthur cussing people and not only Civil Servants did he cuss but people from all walks of life he cussed or the Prime Minister Freundel Stuart praising people for their service to this Country.

    This just abouts sums up the decency values in these two gentlemen one is upright, HONEST and DECENT and respectful of people’s privacy and one that Barbadians TRUST and respect his word as his bond or the other scamp who is a known thief, a corrupt vagabond, a person who clearly has NO respect for Women be those women his wives or his political foes, any man that had no knowledge and disowned his children until his divorce and only acknowledged as having children well into their teens is not worthy of my respect or trust because if he is prepared to disown and lie about his own flesh and blood what would he not lie about ?

    The choice is a very clear one if you stand for Morals, Honesty in Public Life and good Values for you as a people from children to adults there can be no comparison to Prime Minister Freundel Stuart for values and morals and decency.


  75. “The choice is a very clear one if you stand for Morals, Honesty in Public Life and good Values for you as a people from children to adults there can be no comparison to Prime Minister Freundel Stuart for values and morals and decency.”

    What a lot of crock… talking about morals isn’t Mr Stuart is an unwed father? Hasn’t he been caught telling untruths? And associating with “Friends” whose company robbed many of their money?


  76. @ Islngal
    Onions….you are welcome to take on the Clown. And thank you for the support (I can’t believe that I am thanking Onions). Today I am on my best behaviour.
    ************************
    Dun kno Gal….we is tight….time fa closing ranks pun these “poilitico pranks” !


  77. @ Islandgal
    You sound more and more like a blonde from another island… Perhaps YOU should return to the hills from whence you originated…lol


  78. BT …….you know you love women like me so don’t tempt me to put on my boots and tek out my whips for you my bushy friend.


  79. @Bush Tea | June 30, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    I honestly would never have expected such a comment to be made by you. I rated you far more eloquent and responsible than that. Why lower your standards at this point?


  80. @ miller
    “I am sure a lot of people in the International Business Sector (and stridently supported by other locals including politicians from both side of the divide) would not agree the Civil Service is excellent…”
    **************
    You are definitely losing your touch ….and endangering your impressive BU ratings…
    How do you manage to jump from a statement of COMPARISON by FS, to arguing about opinions about excellence? the fact that A>B has no implications to the excellence of either A or B.

    …you would not want to be categorized with the likes of John, Moneybrain and LG when it comes to such willful disregard for basic logic….now would you…?


  81. @ de Hood
    …wait where you now back from bowsie…?
    Why don’t you keep out of lovers business? You heard anybody say hood…?
    Bushie and Islandgal got something planned in some sort of hills…. Either it will be Bushie Hills, or IG hills…. Negotiations are currently under way.
    @ onions
    Buzz off!!! You smelling some honey nuh…?


  82. To the point- you said that the BLP budget response was like rancid piss – you are being too kind . I think that you need to apologise to piss.


  83. That nonsense that Alice In Wonderland presented a couple days ago was a gross insult to intelligent Barbadians.
    Instead of serious proposals we get 500 million dollar tourism fund which any body in Barbados with a brain knows is a lie, I wonder why she stop at 500 million, she should have said 5 billion or 5 trillion.
    Throwing political scratchgrain like Bajans aint got no sense but no doubt some BLP yardfowls will still scout around the yard and pick it up.
    The BLP clearly showed one thing in the budget debate that they have a lot of criticism but no innovate, visionary or practical solutions.


  84. @ BT
    Bin hey alla time, ain’t went nowhere. Best of luck to you re ig246. I think you will need it. 🙂


  85. @ Bushie
    Gen. Cluster made his last STAND in 1876…in the battle of “Little Big Honer-man “…when Cluster lost all to the onions ..including his shaft…..
    Isgal…expect a clock reading six and not 6.15…..lol


  86. i am still tring to get a realistic perspective of the Tripe MIA presented as a BUDGET to the public. one of the most striking is her call to refund the monies to the NHC tenants after 20years of full payment. i wonder how much does that add up to and if the govt of now is trying to scrape the barrell to pay down the debt they inherited how in the world is she going to get the funds to pay these people, is she for REAL ! maybe Mia have won the LOTTA and don;t know what to do with her millions or maybe OSA has decided to release some of the millions he stached away in offshore banks, NEVER KNOW wonders never cease!


  87. @ de hood
    Fool ya self….( if u female) miss n bring ya railings near onions pailings….see who doing a 6.30…


    • Freundel Stuart said that Barbados has the best civil service in the the English speaking Caribbean and that has caused a lot of people to get their knickers in a knot. What else would they want the PM to do. It seems that even when he does the right thing he is being criticised.

      As PM and hopefully a good leader, he should praise his officers in public and criticise in private. Some time ago, he made some unfortunate remarks about Court Marshals and I called him on that inappropriate conduct. He has done the opposite in this and I think that it is only fair to acknowledge that he has done the right thing, even if it is as some believe that he was only currying favour with the civil service.


  88. @ Bush Tea | June 30, 2012 at 8:55 PM |
    How do you manage to jump from a statement of COMPARISON by FS, to arguing about opinions about excellence? the fact that A>B has no implications to the excellence of either A or B.
    Bushie, this discussion is not about sophistry or the cannons of good argument. This is about the survival of the nation and protection of our hard won good (and I may go so far as to say excellent) quality of life.
    When I use the adjective “excellent” to describe the way the PM is trying to portray the Civil Service I am merely attempting to encapsulate the intent of his currying favour with a very large voting block that has been increasingly disenchanted and disillusioned with the DLP administration broken promises and treatment.

    PM Stuart is politically savvy enough to capitalize on the fear propagandized by the DLP supporters that a return of a BLP government would spell doom for the security of jobs and massive layoffs and the victimization of public workers would ensue.
    By making them feel that the DLP is on their side and “bigging” them up by describing them as “simply the best” in the Caribbean- using Haiti as the basket case- is tantamount to political prostitution. It’s equivalent to a seasoned ‘working girl’ telling a new john who suffers from premature ejaculation that he is the ‘best lover’ she has met.

    Come on Bushie, how can our Civil Service be realistically describe in such “estimable” terms when the same Civil Service is blamed for Barbados losing out on one billion dollars in foreign investment with the loss of 2,7000 jobs to boot?
    How can Barbados, in such dire economic straits, put up with a performance and outcome of such gargantuan scandal?
    You tell me Bushie! Or is it all written in the grand design of which you are privy?

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