“Is he entitled to unbridled freedom of expression under the cloak of freedom of expression?”

Yes, he is. Next!

Moving along …

@David,
Seems to me the Attorney General, the Police and the Lawyers will have to deal with the content of the song.

The lyrics are vile and disgusting but like the rappers from the Ghetto he may be singing about his personal life experience.

You reap what you sow.

Interesting subject David. I notice you don’t openly offer much of an opinion yourself. I think you will be shocked at some of the responses you get on this.
I myself have no comment except to say that in recent years when Bajans were busy counting their money, trumpetting fancy statistics and patting themselves on the back, squabbling over Bees vs Dems, politicians’ personal business, juicy political gossip and such, the REAL issues like this went unnoticed and now it may be too late to save ourselves.

Honestly and sincerely,
VERITY

A gentleman must sometimes comment appropriately..

You really think de fellas reading this thinking about morals, seeing that nice pic of the lady on the title?

Lawdy hooziemama! ”budding politician ”.

And ‘budding’ very nicely too. I done going vote for she. Think I could vote for Hams when I got she tuh vote for?!

An I I din have a next half, I would surely be looking forward to the elexshun visit.

DAVID

Birds of a feather flock together.

The Barbados Labour Party is a corrupt party and she is a proud member, and the individual is a corrupter of public morals.

Expect anything from members of the Barbados Labour Party.

And delete Random Thoughts post, it is deprave just like the Barbados Labpour Party.

The US now has Barbados listed as and unpredictable Country, everyone is doing as they please law enforcement has no control of the people, the two TOP Cop’s fighting among each other, To much guns, drugs, bribes and payoff.

@Verity

If you are new to BU please feel free to read our blogs under ‘category’ morality.

Nijinsky was a Russian Ballet dancer who was so into his dance that he would masturbate during the throes of his dance.Sadly he went insane and was reportedly found dead in an aslyum psychiatric ward.Was it society who was to blame for his death?I am led to think so.All the negative shit along with the identity crisis!
I have no problem with Lil Ric or his music.He has managed to remain at the top of his game and nothing that anyone does can remove the impression which he leaves on his supporters minds. The youth luike what they hear and parents sadly are caught between a rock and a hard place since;This is the culture which their children love.The kids who don’t, do so by choice! Wallah!
Girls had already gone wild by the time Lil Ric brought out that song which caused most barbadians to go balistic especially when they saw the gyrations of the girls.The public kept even more noise
since the girls wore the colours of the barbados flag!! Fly it do!!
A wuck up is a wuck up!lying down or sitting up! What is wrong with society? The man is making money legit and fire or no fire, some wavelines are the poorer for it! I guess we are forgetting Rhianna for now eh?
Music like poetry takes good imagination the writer either projects the image as it unfolds to him or her or he simply pens as is -Raw !
Lady Saw,Beenie man,Mr.Vegas,Mackadiamond all spout filth but it makes $$$$$$.Bottom line.
Senator Santia Bradshaw, has NO OPOLOGIES to make to anyone for managing Lil Ric. someone has to!!She is a lawyer who well represents the music fraternity.She has balls! oops! not literally!
Can you imagin any old timers keeping up withthe yuts today.At least she has a chance to ably represent Barbadians at the polls.
So who is bulling who or who has bulled who or who is wicking who or who has wicked who has nothing to do with the price of eggs. What was is and evermore shall be!More power to gay pride!Yeah!
and Trans too.Does not anyone get it? One life to live-Your choice
Bajans have good values and guess what! You can take a cow to the water but……ya cannot make it drink!People too bad mind!Vote fa Santia do!! no matter if she represent din ding!I voting for Tom Adams now dead as he is!One Body and One mind! We foot!!!
Jah boy…Lox it up!

@noname

The blog was meant to slam both. In any event do you see a problem?

Are you saying that Santia should not be part of this conversation? As a society we would not want hold an aspirant to the highest court in the country responsible for backing smut? Bear in mind it remains a big problem in our schools.

Dear David:

How or when or why is a lawyer responsible for the behaviour of his clients?

Did David Thompson ever defend anyone accused of criminal behaviour?

Were any of hisMr. THhmpson’s clients ever convicted of any criminal behaviour?

Were any of them ever imprisoned?

Was Mr. Thompson responsible for his client’s behaviour?

Are there any other lawyers/MP’s/Prime Ministers who have defended criminals?

Did Grantley Adams ever defend a murderer?

Did Tom Adams ever defend a murderer?

Did Bree St. John ever defend a murderer?

Were or are these other lawyers responsible for thier clients criminal behaviour?

Whatever you say about Lil Rick he is NOT a criminal. He is NOT a murderer.

Lil Rick has not been convicted of ANYTHING.

I am sure that if you do your research you will find that MANY lawyer MP’s/Prime Ministers have defended people who were accused of and CONVICTED of MURDER.

I am no fan of the artiste but um, didn’t we hear the current PM chanting the lyrics of this same artiste at his DLP conference: “guh down guh down…” etc, to loud applause from those in attendance?

i would like to make a comment as I really am not too enthused with the lil rick, if that’s him but I cannot for the life of me understand the words as u all seem to do. i decrease the volume, i increase it etc, i cannot understand what he is saying-therefore i can offer no comment

David kindly allows whosoever has a PC and access to the internet to post their pithy pissy puerile pedestrian posts on BU.
Unfortunately, however, he has no control of thier intelligence or comprehension as exhibited by the post above, where we see the work of an incoherent illiterate moron in full flight!

The main point of my earlier post is that the USA IS IN NO MORAL POSITION TO WATCH BARBADOS AS THEIR CRIME RATE IS HIGHER THAN OURS AND EVEN IN VERY SMALL TOWNS, SMALLER THAN BARBADOS.

INSTEAD OF LOOKING TO THE USA FOR EXAMPLE WE CAN EASILY LOOK BACK TOWARDS THE PRINCIPLES TO WHICH WE ADHERED IN THE PAST!

I am quite aware that GOD IS WATCHING US. I could care too hoots about the immoral and very corrupt USA.

Now read my post again, and see if you can enroll in the O level Institute and recieve some instruction in English comprehension, and basic English language skills. You are woefully lacking.

Should do nothing and follow a predictable path which Jamaica, T&T and others are blazing a trail?

Do we fight the decline to win the minds of our young people?

Agree with GP, we are small but we can lead the world here.

We seem to have a need to encapsulate politics in everything.
But there was a time when boys solved disputes with talk- threats- and maybe a little fighting. BUT CERTAINLY NOT WITH GUNS.

And whereas we dont any longer frown on “took music” and other indigenous rhythms, there is definitely no reason at all to accept smut in lieu of proper lyrics.

I love to listen to the Tradewinds and other Carribean songsters of the 50’s 60″ etc. Some of theres artistes are still going, and there are still a joy to hear AND WITH OUT THE UNNECESSARY SMUT.

tHIS IS NOT AN ISSUE TO POLITICIZE.

Enuff, everything must be partisan politics for you>

The DLP campaign song Lil Rick sang was not smut. So he was not contracted by the DLP to sing smut.

Whoever manages and advises Lil Rick on a day to day basis? Check with them about how he is developing as an artise.

I agree with the post above that the artistes needs proper guidance, because everybody in whatever career needs good guidnace and the right influences. Doctor, lawyer, banker, everybody. Otherwise they can lose their way. I will stick my neck out that deep down fellas like Lil Rick is a good hearted person.
We dont have to politicize everything.

People keep saying we need to stop this and that before it jeopardizes our youth, what you really want is censorship right? Young people will get their hands on information earlier than adults realise, are far more savvy than adults realise and should be given more credit.

This is really a classic debate over art projecting or art reflecting culture, and I would hasten to lean to the latter. Aside from the fact that every era has had its ‘misguided’ youth listening to music considered outrageously sexual and suggestive – Rock N Roll in the 50’s anyone? Not all of it was clean, nice lets rock around the clock stuff. Quite a lot of it – particularly artists most strongly influenced by the blues, the mother of Rock N Roll, was quite sexual in content. And there was a charm even to SMUT in ole time Kaiso. We even see smut in Kaiso now as an art because it took some clever linguistic talent to say shocking things in a poetic and witty way – in fact the effect was always more shocking than if spoken plainly.

The big difference now is that things don’t shock us anymore. In our materialistic society everything and anything has become publicized to the point where nothing is taboo. I’ll always remember the first time I saw Britney Spears… just 16 years old,,, doing her stripper routine in her first video. It was outrageous but people got past the shock, because it was sexy and she had a banging body and that’s what sells albums. The fact that such a girl would be making pole dancing so popular.. you had girls 11 and 12 years old – abetted by their parents – dressing up like Britney Spears and adopting her mannerisms in her videos, it was ridiculous. Even in the fashion industry the sexualization of young people was happening early in the 90’s…But Stuff got sold because we’re so nonchalant in our wealth and so MODERN … so what’s the big deal right? I’m rambling …. but getting rid of these artists and censoring them isn’t going to stop the deluge of filth and it’s not why Jamaica and Trinidad are in the mess they’re in.. but that’s for another discussion…

And the reason some young man/woman decides to follow the stupidity some artists sings in a ditty has nothing to do with the song but their own susceptibility and weakness.

use her skills bsh*t i am not a fan of hers but since when you can tell an attorney not to represent a client wunna does be serious before wunna type this shit this is my second comment ever and i seriously cant believe this
Correct I never heard this song yet until the people that want to tarnish d people study it..i sorry dis forum aint live like msn or hotmail cause wunna want b linding man

@Enuff

The Senator is a budding politician and has the opportunity to be part of a law making body. This is the context for our description.

The following definition of public morals may help to guide the discussion:

Public morality

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia     This article does not cite any references or sources.

"Public morals" redirects here. For the television series, see Public Morals (TV series).

Public morality refers to moral and ethical standards enforced in a society, by law or police work or social pressure, and applied to public life, to the content of the media, and to conduct in public places. A famous remark of Mrs Patrick Campbell, that she did not care what people did as long as they "didn’t frighten the horses" shows that in some sense even high tolerance expects a public limitation on behaviour (sexual conduct is implied here). At the opposite extreme a theocracy may equate public morality with religious instruction, and give both the equal force of law.

Public morality often means regulation of sexual matters, including prostitution and homosexuality, but also matters of dress and nudity, pornography, acceptability in social terms of cohabitation before marriage, and the protection of children. It is a main justification for censorship; it can lead to campaigns against profanity, and so be at odds with freedom of speech. Gambling is generally controlled: casinos have been considered much more of a threat than large-scale lotteries or football pools. Public drunkenness is quite unacceptable in some societies, and legal control of consumption of alcohol is often justified in terms of public morality, just as much as for medical reasons or to limit alcohol-related crime. Drug legislation, historically speaking, has sometimes followed on similar reasoning. Abortion is sometimes treated as an aspect of public morality, even if it is legally defined, regulated by medical professionals, and almost entirely hidden from public view. AIDS as a health policy issue is linked to public morality in a complicated manner.

Views on public morality do change over time. For example, there have been proscriptions against eating in the street or allowing women to smoke in public. These examples show that public views on which things which are acceptable often move towards wider tolerance. Rapid shifts the other way are often characterised by moral panics, as in the shutting down of theatres a generation after Shakespeare’s death by the English Puritans.

It may also be applied to the morals of public life. Political corruption, or the telling of lies in public statements, tarnish not only individual politicians, but the entire conduct of political life, whether at local or national level. These are fairly universally regarded as blots on reputations, though in some cases there is a grey area between corruption and legitimate fund-raising. Whether the private lives of politicians are a public morals issue is not a matter of agreement, internationally speaking; the existence of an extramarital relationship of a Prime Minister would in some countries be considered a revelation well within the sphere of the public interest, while in other countries it would be considered quite irrelevant.

Enuff, try another brand of BLP spin.
Since it’s already partisan let me ask.
Did the Dems appeal to the youth vote using Lil Rick’s smut or promoting smut? NO.
Is the BLP lady earning a living from promoting smut? YES.
Big difference!
Full stop.

This is where the problem in the society is coming, the DLP hired Lil Ric well aware of his ‘smut’ appeal, the Senator is managing Lil Ric well aware of his smut appeal. Both parties should be making decisions which send the message that there is line which the society is not prepared to cross.

@ loyal subject
Let me simplify for you:
Salary = benefit
Political support = benefit
If my contributions are spin unroll them.

@David …

Unfortunately, I think that line has already been crossed.

I agree however it would send a powerful message not to endorse an Artist such as this, but there’s worse being heard on the air and on TV… you know? And as Sexi sey…. there are far more pressing concerns….

Smut sells….clearly there’s a market for it, which is why the problem really isn’t the artist. I remember ages ago when 50 cents first came on the scene .. in an interview he said he was gonna be different and come with a new vibe…………. oh well.