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Leslie Haynes QC – President of the Barbados Bar Association

In the last week or so, Nation “journalist” Tim Slinger wrote a report on the fed-up Barbados Bar. The basis of his report was a letter from Barbados Bar Association (BBA) Chairman, Leslie Haynes Q.C. to Acting Chief Justice Sherman Moore.

According to Leslie Haynes, “As president of the Bar, it is my duty to inform you of the general feeling of the Bar, that the wheels of our judicial system are grinding to a halt.” Haynes subsequently released a copy of this letter to the Nation.

BU has held back on commenting on this matter lest we be dragged across the coals by the legal beavers who frequent this blog space. The report could hardly be done justice until a smidgen of investigative journalism was practiced. It is no secret how BU feels about the local Fourth Estate and by extension the Nation’s capacity to engage “investigative” journalism approaches; a prerequisite to being a professional journalist.

Acting Chief Justice – Sherman Moore

BU has learned that Leslie Haynes acted without the consent of the BBA in both writing and releasing the letter and it forces BU to examine his possible motives.

Let us start with a concern which has always lurked in our mind. How is it that Leslie Haynes (a competent, but no more than competent, lawyer who most would have thought could never have risen above being a “senior junior counsel”) became a QC in the first place. To what does he owe his rapid advancement? Might it have to do with his close blood tie to Owen Arthur’s right-hand man, Victor Hinkson. For those who do not recall, Hinkson was one of those many Arthur Consultants  who earned about $1 000 a month,  to quote Arthur I paid him $1 000 to help him out’. The long running debate that former Chief Justice David Simmons was an ill advised appointment may yet be worthy of further discussion. We have to continue to learn from history.

BU is reliably informed that Leslie Haynes was never even considered for recommendation by the BBA to be admitted to the Inner Bar. That decision was a gift, without recommendation or advice, to Leslie Haynes by Owen Arthur; a decision worthy of explanation to Barbadians.

The study of our court system that Mr Haynes complains was not provided to the BBA was, in fact, completed in January of 2010 and was officially* delivered, not to Chief Justice Moore, but to the then Chief Justice, Sir David Simmons, prior to his “retirement” in April 2010, about 7 months ago. Mr Haynes may try to suggest that the BBA did not know of it and its contents, even if they had not officially been sent a copy – so why not complain 7 months ago? Why now about a report that pillories Simmons, not Moore.

Since Chief Justice Moore is merely a night watchman until the top legal post is taken over by Chief Justice Elect Marston Gibson in the New Year, what possible motivation can the Arthur-elected QC have for such at attack at this point and so belatedly and reportedly without the sanction of the BBA, on the spurious and unsatisfactory basis that he is Chairman (BBA)? And why send it to the Nation?

Why is the Arthur political yardfowl, Leslie Haynes, choosing this time to complain about the admittedly parlous state of the judicial system, when it was the Arthur government itself, ably assisted by Arthur’s CJ and former Attorney General David Simmons who, through the nepotistic appointment of incompetents in key judicial positions, created the mess in the first place? And why make an issue now, on the eve of the arrival of a new broom (Gibson) chosen by our late and present prime ministers (Thompson and Stuart) to sweep away the debris and mess  put in place by the Arthur government and to enforce the new integrity legislation?

As for Chief Justice Moore, our investigations show that he has done all he can, as a night watchman, to correct and eradicate the errors, omissions and general ineptitude of his predecessor, Sir David Simmons. The blaming of Moore in the Nation is nothing more than an attempt at clearing the blame for Sir David Simmons and his elector, Owen Arthur. The BBA membership generally agrees that Moore has done an excellent job, given the pitch prepared for him. The raising of this issue would also appear to be an attempt to lay the foundation of censure against Marston Gibson when he takes office, by one generally considered by his peers to be unworthy to be admitted to the Inner Bar. Some maybe be aware that the only criticism offered of Gibson so far has been his inexperience practicing in our system.

No country can survive without a strong and independent and efficient judiciary. Without that, there is a certainty of anarchy and dictatorship.


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58 responses to “The Spectre Of Political Interference By Some In The Legal Fraternity And The Co-option Of Local Media”


  1. The design of those new facilities with so much space being reserved for beautifully manicured greenery, in a area where car parking space is at a premium, to me sums up the sorry tale of that institution…! All pomp and no poop …!


  2. What is it about lawyers/Judges and their opinions anyway that seems so attractive to people..? My God they contribute little and represent the most inefficient of human activity imaginable…! Sloppy self-serving bureaucrats that stall and block meaningful progress …


  3. It’s about time Barbados Underground went Overground.. jazz..
    ❂ I Remember Clifford */** ❂ Born To Be Blue ***


  4. @BAFBFP. So you are adovcating doing away with the rule of law? Because without lawyers and judges, there is no rule of law. Are we to take it that this is the platform upon which you hope to persuade the people of Barbados to allow you to govern them?

    @David. We know the problems that the legal system currently has and they are enormous and present a real challenge to the new CJ – one that he is well equipped to deal with. I find the publication of the letter from Leslie Haynes highly reprehensible at any time, far less at this stage of things. I agree that the timing of both letter and publication are highly suspect. If I were Moore CJ, I would be as furious as the BBA certainly is. I join BU in asking why this letter was not written months ago when the author of the mess was still in office. Ham-handed conduct, I think and I am certainly very curious as to the timing.


  5. @Amused

    You are going to be booted from the legal profession. You should know you legals stick together even at the expense of the people.


  6. @Amused,
    There is nothing wrong with the letter except it should have been written or typed by Haynes and hand delivered directly to the acting CJ.

    Such serious accusations should never be sent to the media without the acting CJ getting an opportunity to offer an opinion.

    An we the citizens are to be confident in lettin wunna handle we lan an money an represent we interest ef we guh to court or got a estate to settle.


  7. @David,
    There are always exceptions. Let me know if you find one.


  8. The preamble above refers to a connection between Leslie Haynes Q.C. and Opposition Leader Owen Arthur. I am not going to question this, but did not Leslie Haynes have close connections with CLICO, seving as one of their attorneys on record as well as Director of some of their (CLICO) Barbados companies. Can someone clarify this for me please.


  9. Leslie Haynes was a Director of CLICO until he resigned earlier this year. He was known to be very good friends with Leroy Parris. Let BU state the forgoing is not meant to cast aspirations on Haynes.

    To the question at hand, why wasn’t David Simmons asked the hard questions? Why wait for night watchman Moore?

    Something stinks in Denmark!


  10. Amused

    “Because without lawyers and judges, there is no rule of law.”

    I going for a evening walk… When I come back I hope I could find it in me tah gi’ you a break …. !


  11. Acting CJ upset with Leslie Haynes. See Nation report.

    Bar knocked
      Sun, November 14, 2010 – 12:05 AM

    ACTING CHIEF JUSTICE Sherman Moore has chided Barbados Bar Association president Leslie Haynes for his recent criticisms of the judicial system.

    In a letter to Haynes last Wednesday, the Acting Chief Justice said: “It was with great dismay and consternation that I received your letter dated November 8, 2010, and more so its tenor and content in light of our most cordial and productive meeting held in the conference room of the Supreme Court of Judicature on October 20, 1010, to address some of the teething problems resulting from the implementation of the CPR [Civil Procedure Rules].”

    The Acting Chief Justice’s comments came in light of a letter written to him by the Bar Association which described the justice system as having serious shortcomings and being ultimately a threat to the constitutional right of people’s access to justice.

    But Moore noted that this was not the case and drew reference to the October 20 meeting which he said was attended by a wide cross section of the legal fraternity, including himself and another High Court judge, as well as senior representatives of both the Supreme Court’s Registration Department and the Bar Association.

    “That meeting was the most recent in the series of regular meetings between Bench and Bar held to discuss matters of mutual interest and to find solutions to common problems,” he said.

    The Acting Chief Justice also listed a number of agreements reached between the two bodies, but noted there were some which required legislative action and “other external imputs”.

    “No one reading your letter would ever imagine (a) that you were at any time present at a meeting between Bench and Bar, let alone that you were present as the principal representaive of the Bar, or that (b) you ever report to your members the discussions had and decisions taken at those meetings,” Moore said in his correspondence.

    The Acting Chief Justice said a proper functioning judicial system was the objective of the meetings between both bodies.

    “It appears to me however that it might assist in achieving that objective if you would summon a meeting of your members and apprise them of the meetings of Bench and Bar over the years and the procedures discussed and implemented to enhance and improve the administration and delivery of justice.”

    Moore also said that a request for a report of the Barbados Judiciary Implementation Of The Civil Procedures Rules And Project Proposal, April 2010, had to be approved by the Judicial Council and relevant Government bodies before dissemination to the public.

    Attorneys of the 700-odd Bar Association membership were last Thursday criticised by Hyanes for leaking the letter addressed to the Acting Chief Justice to THE NATION.


  12. @Kiki

    Do you think Barbados can handle ‘Barbados overground’?

    @all

    We have taken the liberty to email this link to Marston Gibson.


  13. Of course we all believe that it was the Bar Association that collectively decided to go behind Leslie Haynes’ back and leak Leslie’s letter to the Nation. Sure, Leslie, we absolutely believe that the BBA decided to leak a letter under your signature to the Nation. It makes perfect sense to leak such a letter ONLY to the Nation and forget the Advocate, VOB and CBC. Yes, we believe that – but we also believe that pigs can fly.


  14. Wait, who is this blogger named “all” ….

    700 odd lawyers and a handful of judges and magistrates, all doing very well for themselves, still can’t get a simple organizational situation to function effectively, after decades of involvement… Begs the question, is it really in their best interest to improve things for the rest of us? Of course the larger point is that it is from this pool of assholes that the bulk of the national political operatives is drawn. My God …


  15. @BAFBFP

    Is there any ‘system’ you can name which does not always require maintenance to operate with efficiency?


  16. As for the highly respected Amused;

    The policy that should be adopted is to sen’ home all the health inspectors, insurances investigators, auditors, policemen, building inspectors, all the staff at the crime lab and Government run quality assurance labs and leave it all up to these nincompoops to ensure that there is “there is rule of law.”

    My God …


  17. That the courts are a mess is without any doubt, due to incompetent judges and inexcusable delays by those judges in delivering justice. The Registry is a complete and utter shambles and the Registrar is totally incompetent to do the job. Files lost, judgments not perfected, records of appeal not settled (or not properly settled) scheduling done by hand and not computer and with so many errors that it is inexcusable. All this the legacy of Lady Simmons when she was registrar, compounded by her husband’s useless apointees in his capacity as both attorney general and CJ. And he only removed himself in April this year. Since then, Moore CJ has been doing all he can to keep the boat afloat and as far as he can to limit the damage. However, the real job of reconstruction cannot begin until Marston Gibson takes over. That the Bar is up in arms is common knowledge – and rightly so. But the Bar is up in arms against David Simmons, not Sherman Moore. The timing of this attack by Leslie Haynes appears to be an attempt to make Moore the fall guy for David Simmons. David is right, there is a stench to the Leslie Haynes letter.


  18. You know David before there is maintenance there must be a design that works… Do really think that these pathetic individuals actually possess the skill set to design anything … that actually works ..?


  19. It would be useful to read Anonlegal and Jeff on this matter. BU is on record heavily critiquing the judiciary/registry over the years. It is time for all you legals sitting on the fence to help create the change needed to ensure our society’s justice system is protected.


  20. @Amused,

    Was the letter sent to members of the BBA before it was leaked ?

    Please tell me what would motivate Haynes to write a letter that contradicts Justice Moore’s explanation.

    Justice Moore sounds credible.

    If Justice Moore has spoken truthfully then Haynes will resign.


  21. Seems like our lawyer friends are unavailable for comment.
    @David.
    I hope this topic doesn’t “disappear”.


  22. If Justice Moore has spoken truthfully then Haynes will resign.

    What you mean by resign ?

    He should stripped of his right to be a lawyer, his actions are dishonest and untrustworthy in other word he is liar who cannot be trusted.


  23. For those who know Acting Chief Justice Moore, he is a straight forward and honest man. It is hard to go against him in this matter.


  24. @David,

    The members of the BBA should ask Haynes to resign regardless.

    They can ask Owen for lessons on removing a leader.lol


  25. As BU has rightly reported, the process in commissioning a QC was not followed in the case of Leslie Haynes. I have a real problem with that. By conferring a QC on a lawyer, there is a clear and unambigous statement to the public that here is a person who is at the top of the legal profession. It is not meant to give the public the idea that here is a person who is at the top of the political hand-outs list. Unfortunately, in Barbados, the public is left to guess as to which QCs are given on professional merit and which are given for meritorious yardfowlism to the party in power.

    Sherman Moore came to the judiciary from the Solicitor General’s office, where he was instrumental in drafting legislation. In other words, here is a man of great intellect. Having not a lot of practical experience, he made mistakes at first – but he learned very quickly and never made the same mistake twice. He is a quiet and retiring man and a dedicated jurist. He has done everything that could be done to rectify the unbelievable mess left by David and Marie Simmons and their appointees. In other words, Chief Justice Moore is a man of great intellegence and great integrity who shuns the spotlight. It burns me that he has been held up to ridicule by one of less intellegence who is a merely competent lawyer, but whose capacity and apptitude for publicity and political wrangling far exceeds his abilities as a lawyer.

    As for replacing Leslie as chairman of the Bar, well the possibility of a top lawyer taking over from his is slight to none. All we will do is get another QC wannabe who will use the position of chairman to broker influence so they can get that QC, thus giving the general public the view that they are the top.


  26. And more importantly, to charge even more outrageous fees for their poor rakey services.

    When is the fair trading commission going to wake up and put a stop the price fixing that the lawyers’ scale of fees represents. Why should price fixing by lawyers be exempt from sanction?

    I don’t suppose Amused’s righteous indignation will extend so far as to comment.


  27. @Inkwell – you are wrong. My views will extend so far as to agree with you. However, be warned that the only scale of fees that is imposed on lawyers is with respect to transactions in land and this scale of fees protects the public. There is an old saying that you get what you pay for – for instance, you can buy a cheap pair of sunglasses, but if you want to designer pair, the price will be MUCH higher. So too with lawyers. The better the lawyer, the higher the hourly rate. Of course, practical experience shows me that the higher the hourly rate, the less the final bill usually ends up by being, because the top boys know exactly what to do and where to look in their research, so they spend less time – a lot less time. Also, the top boys (and girls) will tell you point blank not to waste their time and your money if you do not have a case, because they are not touting for business. I have no problem with removing the scale of fees on land transactions. If you go to the top boys and girls, if you remove the set fees, you will find that their fees have risen and you will then have the choice of deciding whether you want to pay those fees, or shop around. So while I agree with you, may I respecfully suggest that you leave the scale of fees where they are. I also point out that the scale of fees are calculated on the value of the transaction, not on the number of hours that the lawyer puts in to completing that transaction.

    In my respectful view, it would be impossible to impose a scale of fees on other areas of law, since no one can predict how many hours would be necessary – and some cases are very complex and require a lot of time. That would be tantamount to restraining the lawyer’s trade and it would be extremely detrimental to the client.

    So, a last word. Always have a consultation with a top lawyer. You will get an honest opinion on your case and usually a referral to a junior counsel who will do the legwork at a lesser price until it goes to court. It means too that the top lawyer you consult is bound to your case and cannot work for the other party, due to conflict of interest rules. He/she can then consult with the junior to decide if it is in your best interests that once the case comes to trial, the top boy takes “first chair”. It may well be that the top man/woman may decide that the junior it well capable of handling the case. There are some excellent young lawyers out there. However, in my experience, most of the top boys continue to monitor your case and consult with the junior and, believe it or not, they usually do not bill you for this.

    The top boys and girls are very aware of the need to train up their replacements for when they retire or go to meet their Maker. You will find with the top boys – and David has obligingly provided a partial list of these are possible intergrity legislation commissioners – the practice if law is a vocation, not just a job. Unfortunately, finding them in the many lawyers available is not that easy, due to many factors, not least the dishing out of QC’s for meritorious service to politics, rather than to justice. Dealing with them is less easy still, because they will not tell you what you want to hear, but they will tell you the truth. And, believe it or not, their first preoccupation is NOT their bank balance, but justice – but for them it is a vocation.

    Anyway, I hope this provides you with food for thought and even possibly assistance.


  28. The moore things change the moore things come full circle again!
    ‘I born to be blue’ is awesome in remembering Clifford- Jazz at its best. The struggles continues!Each man for himself .The law is an ass.End of story!


  29. Amused

    “I also point out that the scale of fees are calculated on the value of the transaction, not on the number of hours that the lawyer puts in to completing that transaction.”

    Does this not explain how it is possible that such a group in Barbados could be so short on obvious competence and yet demonstrate such celebrated success?


  30. @Amused:

    “In my respectful view, it would be impossible to impose a scale of fees on other areas of law, since no one can predict how many hours would be necessary – and some cases are very complex and require a lot of time. That would be tantamount to restraining the lawyer’s trade and it would be extremely detrimental to the client.”

    Amused, surely you can be a little innovative here? Apart from land transactions all lawyers charge by the hour. What is wrong with setting fees for lawyers by years of practice? For instance, a new lawyer $75 per hour. Lawyers with 2 to 5 years $125 per hour. Lawyers with 5-8 years $250, etc. and up the scale until you get to the top notch and QCs. Bearing in mind that not all QCs are top notch, there should be a warning to this effect when the list and fees are published. Amused, why not suggest this at the next BBA meeting?


  31. @Amused

    One angle BU has not covered with the lawyers is the fact the group deals with large money transactions. What is your view about how they handle these transactions in light of money laundering regulations?

    Is this something the BBA is concerned?


  32. The awarding of QC’s and Knighthoods are all political patronage appointments, when the BLP was in power the majority were given to the party faithful and vice versa when the DLP is in power. I think that Barbados has more “knights” and QC’s per capita then any country in the world.

    Where else I can read a caption in a newspaper with “Elders” Sir Henry; Sir Louis, Sir Fred; Dame Billie and Sir Richard the only one in the photo who wasn’t a “Knight” was Nigel Barrow and if he hangs around long enough and the BLP regains the Gov’t his can’t be far off. (In the old days before Nigel joined the BLP he was Errol Barrow’s assistant but Barrow canned him over his work habits lets say “he worked well under supervision”)

    We need a new breed of politician who will abolish these vestiges of colonialism, but since every politician feels that someday he/she will be entitled to one or the other I won’t be holding my breath.


  33. @David. That question is easily answered. The amount of paperwork that has to be filled in on any transaction over a certain amount, is vast. There are forms from Central Bank, forms from the recipient bank, forms from the tax people – you name it. All these documents have to be executed under oath. Now, human experience dictates to me that someone or some people may have found ways to short circuit or circumvent all these regulations and documents, but I don’t have the slightest idea who or how or even if. I cannot help there. BU needs input on that from someone charged with overseeing and enforcing the Money Laundering and Financing of Terrorism (Prevention and Control) Act 2002. Actually, that is an area that BU would do well to discuss, if one of the family is expert or familiar with it. I know very little about it, so would be most willing to learn.


  34. @Pat. Dear Pat, how really great to hear from you. You are a naughty girl. You know full well that fees are much higher than the ones you quoted, even if your quote was US dollars. This is no secret. Your idea will not work and is, moreover, unjust in all but a communist country. In a democracy, it strikes at the basis of the democratic way of life. Anyone is allowed to put their goods and/or services on the market for a certain amount and it is up to the consumer to decide if they will pay that or not.

    So let us address the question of people who need legal representation, but cannot afford it. Personally, and I believe you live in Ontario, we need to set up a legal aid system akin to Ontario and the UK, except better. There are lots of incentivtes (not just payment) that could be offered to lawyers by government. I view legal aid as being almost as important as national health (like OHIP and the NHS).

    I do think that Bar needs, however, seriously revisit and simplify the system for the appeal of excessive fees. I also think that the Bar ought to require its members to send out and have signed letters whereby the terms of the services of BBA members is clearly and unambigously set out. This is a standard requirement of both the Law Society of Upper Canada and the Law Society of England and Wales. It takes the form of a letter. It ought to be a standard form letter, requiring that the client sign as to agreement with it.

    In addition, in many contries lawyers will provide opinion letters upon first taking a case. These opinions will give an estimate of the percentage of likliehood of success of the action. For instance, Pat, you of all people will recall that the Nelson action against Barbados was rated at 40% success by the Ontario lawyer and “unlikely to get traction”. Therefore the client proceeded at his own risk.

    I would not be happy proceeding with a case at under 70% possibility of success. Indeed, there was a land transaction case (country not stated in case appeals remain) where the defendant had agreed to sell the plaintiff a piece of land, but had had trouble clearing the title for some prolonged period. Once the title was clear, the plaintiff came and insisted on specific performance of the sale and the defendant refused (the land having become far more valuable). So the plaintiff sued. I have to wonder if the defendant’s counsel ever told the defendant that the defense that the agreement for sale had lapsed due to passage of time had a 100% failure rate and would cost the defendant not only his own fees and costs, but those of the plaintiff as well? I must assume that the defendant in this case went in with his eyes wide open, because I have not heard that he sued his attorney for undoubted malpractice.

    So I would strongly support an engagement and opinion letter being required by each and every attorney BEFORE they take on a case. I do NOT, however, agree with the Canadian practice of charging the client for these letters – that is gouging. Then everyone knows where they stand.


  35. “In a democracy, it strikes at the basis of the democratic way of life. ”

    Am excuse me, with respect, Democracy is One Man One Vote … that’s it. Please do not confuse Democracy with Exploitative Enterprise. People today and for as long as I can remember, have been getting away with doing shite simply as a result of being able to twist the public’s perception of key concepts in a way that fits their agendas… Christianity, Democracy, Terrorism , Freedom, Human Rights …


  36. @ Sargeant

    What we need is a truly representative Senate, with TEETH…!


  37. @ Amused

    Ha, ha, ha. So I am caught. I was only giving an example. New lawyers now start at $150 an hour. Most good firms have rates for their lawyers based on years of practice. They will tell you and you can choose according to your pocket book. The good ones will also give an estimate of cost based on projected hours. These firms also give the first half hour of consultation free. So you can check out several firms before deciding where to go.

    Legal aid here is good. What is amazing is that some of the top notch lawyers here do take legal aid. I don’t know what the legal aid rate is today, but I can find out. In the late 80’s it was about $90 per hour. It is probably around $175 to $200 today. I have a friend who just got a Legal Aid Certificate, I’ll ask him the rate. I do most of my legal work myself.

    Amused, you have to have more confidence in yourself. You should take cases with a 50% chance of success. These are the most satisfying. These ones force you think around corners, just like a good crook! You also get a “big euphoric feeling” if and when you win!! Besides, if you lose you still get paid. Once you warned the client of the 50% possiblity of losing, and they wanted to proceed, there should be no guilt. I should have been a lawyer.

    I did not know that lawyers charge for the engagement letter. I know it is mailed after they get the retainer fee, but to charge for it? News to me. I will check with my friend who just got that cert.


  38. @Pat. The 50/50 sort of case deserves to be settled out of court. I am not saying that it should not be taken on, what I am saying is that every effort ought to be made to settle it with as little financial exposure to the client as possible. Very few clients can afford to gamble on either side.

    I think you will find that the free half hour practice (because it is not a rule) pertains to matters of personal injury, which are usually taken on on a contingency basis (in other words, no win no fee). The free half hour is not as kindly as you may think, although the general public is meant to believe that it is most generous. The half hour is for the lawyer to assess whether there is a case worth taking and the likely amount of the damages of which he/she takes 1/3rd plus disbursements.


  39. @BAFBFP | November 16, 2010 at 10:45 AM | “People today and for as long as I can remember, have been getting away with doing shite simply as a result of being able to twist the public’s perception of key concepts in a way that fits their agendas… Christianity, Democracy, Terrorism , Freedom, Human Rights …” -and BAFBFP.

    But you really didn’t have to confess your tactic, we all know already and promise that we will give you due recognition by ensuring that you lose your deposit one again at the next general elections.


  40. Amused

    I got to admit that you los’ me there …

    Truthfully I hate the fact that Lawyers have been allowed to claim virtually exclusive rights to the leadership of this and many other countries around the world. The challenge is to find a way to break that strangle hold on power, and it should be sooo easy as there is not a single disparaging remark that cannot be easily confirmed.

    You people have been wasting people’s lives for generations. A Symbiont I could respect, but a Parasite ..


  41. @BAFBFP | November 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM | . Let me translate the above. Lawyers who support a rule of law are in power. You, who do not support a rule of law and have presented no viable alternative that at least has the chance of protecting the rights of the people (other than your own personal rights and aspirations) wish to be in power. In all your writings, all I can discern is a desire to tear down, with no plans for rebuilding or replacement. That you do not understand what I said above was sadly predictable – and you will also not understand why you lose your deposit if you run in the next general election. You have not yet got the message that we Bajans are doing all we can to get rid of the political piggies feeding at the trough and we don’t want to replace them with another political piggie who merely wants to tear down our infrastructure and society with NOTHING to put in its place. In the absence of any even remotely viable platform from you, we have to assume that you have an agenda – GREED!

    Now, to quote David, you may have the last word. At least on this.


  42. I like this particular subject matter verry much!


  43. Well well, Amused tekkin’ me on …

    I want you to severely regret this.

    “Lawyers who support a rule of law are in power. ”
    Let me shut my eyes for this one … What has happened to the half hearted attempt at making the amount of legal work required to purchase land in Barbados a thing of the past. After all today one still is “legally” required to engage the services of a Lawyer(s) for such transactions to take place, and there are alternative ways of doing things (test me if you dare) ..

    So you see it is “You, WHO support a rule of law who WILL NOT present a viable alternative FOR IT MAY HAVE at least the SLIGHTEST chance of NOT protecting your own personal rights and aspirations as you wish TO MAINTAIN power…

    “In all your writings, all I can discern is a desire to tear down, with no plans for rebuilding or replacement.”

    I haven’t shown a desire to tear down anything yet my friend. To tear down should suggest that there was something of merit that was standing in the first place. A desire to remove the level and variety of influence that lawyers play in the lives of Barbadians is not a tearing down, it is an extraction. A getting rid of, a sanitizing … Get the difference?

    My view for the future is a Cabinet made up of “true problem solvers” drawn from the ranks of PRODUCTIVE people, Artisans, farmers, real Engineers, designers, industrialists, flag ship people with an on the ground experience in the business of penetrating foreign markets not a pathetic clan of self serving rote technocrats who lack the ability to present even the simplest of ideas without first verifying that it was tested elsewhere…

    I am clear in my mind that the quality of candidates in any election particularly those that succeed speaks more to the quality of the electorate than otherwise…

    “You have not yet got the message that we Bajans …”
    So you have claimed the right to speak not only on behalf of others, but on behalf of the WHOLE country … Who you is, Tony Marshall ???

    “we have to assume that you have an agenda – GREED!”
    No Sir, wrong again, I am not medically trained either … And to be accused of being greedy in a place like Barbados where greed forms the basis of our economic model … Sir, with respect, please verify that you are not in the early stages of Alzheimer’s (or is it Old Timer’s).


  44. This is what frustrates people about lawyers AND judges in Barbados. On October 2, 1996 a lawyer agreed in writing to do a job for me. It was an uncontested family matter. The case was finally resolved on November 10, 2010, by another lawyer who was only a secondary school girl when the first lawyer agreed (in writing) to do the work. I need not say that “my bad lawyer” is now a member of the judiciary.

    I suppose that I should sue the first lawyer (now a member of the judiciary), but as I am pretty sure that I do not have another 14 years of life left, what’s the point.


  45. Random thoughts | November 18, 2010 at 12:16 AM | That is a truly sad story, but not unusual and is, in my view, a legacy of the years 1994 to 2010 of the man who was first attorney general and then chief justice. Yours is but one of many such horror stories. As to whether you have a case or not, that would depend on the facts and damages (if any) that you have sustained. Lawyers and high court judges are not immune from civil or criminal actions. AND I am here to tell you that they have found out the hard way that there are certain of the senior “bretheren” who are so angry about cases like yours allegedly is that they are prepared to go after them with no holds barred. I also recommend to you that, if you have a case, it is unlikely to take 14 years to be settled, as which lawyer or judge wants his/her reputation (and earning capacity or pension) put at risk as a result of prolonged lititgation that strikes right at the question of their competence. David has provided you a PARTIAL list of likely counsel in his report on integrity legislation and suggested commissioners. A consultation would not cost you a lot and it might well be money well spent. Your choice.


  46. I feel Amused frightened fah me …. Man ga long man. You don’ have to hate me, just recognise something that I have said as being relevant and I will continue to be an admirer yours … … … !


  47. BAF
    why you doan leff my husban Amused nah? ya ring-nek-vagabun. He doan get ‘silence’ sa easy, ya lil up-start.

    Amused
    mwahhhhhhhhh, rite pun dem lipz.


  48. Bonny P

    Seems to me that you could have sex wid ever’body else pun dis site but me … W’at I ever do you?


  49. BU, where do you get your information regarding Mr. Haynes’ political alliances and other relationships? I’m just curious…


  50. @BAFBFP | . What part of “You may have the last word” seems to cause you cognitive difficulty?

    @Bonny, my sweetheart, how you?

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