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Submitted by Bush Tea

The report from the National Advisory Committee on Education (NACE) committee that has worked over the past two years to compile recommendations for the ministry of education on the future direction of education in Barbados is as predictable and useless as could have been expected – given the way that things are done in Barbados.

According to the Nation newspaper of Tuesday June 22, the report from the ‘NACE’ and presented by Dr Pearson Broomes – focused on five primary areas:

~ The provision of adequate and affordable educational opportunities

~ Enhancing the quality of education

~ Improving student performance and certification

~ Making school a rewarding experience

~ Ensuring that each child benefit from the educational experience

…each area being a predictable cliché of meaningless, general, terms that sound intelligent while essentially saying absolutely nothing.

The committee then goes on to recommend a number of ‘policy initiatives’ like;

…sending scholarship winners to UWI;

…allowing UWI to monopolize tertiary education in Barbados;

…zoning students for secondary schools

…taking 2 schools out to become trade schools

…establishing sixth forms in every school;

… etc etc etc

No doubt the newspaper report is but a brief summary of the committee’s extensive document, and it probably does not do justice to the value of the work done. However even if that is the case, anyone with a modicum of common sense must see that this is nothing but a wish list compiled by a particular segment of the education cartel of Barbados that serves only to pander to their particular interests and pet peeves.

In the first place, how can such an august group of intellectuals spend two years in researching this issue and yet fail to take the time to establish a clear strategic framework for national education in Barbados?

You know! like…

1 – What is it that we are striving to achieve in education in Barbados?

2 – How are we going to measure this achievement?

3 – How well / badly are we doing right now based on this measure?

4 – What are the main factors that impede / encourage success?

5 – Where does the best opportunities lie to improve results being obtained?

Now are these not the kinds of answers that you would expect from a fancy sounding advisory committee on education? Stupseeeee

Now I like Mr. Jeff Broomes the Principal of Alexandria! Any leader who is regularly at odds with his union is likely to be someone that is innovative, creative and actually doing things.

But when he seeks to justify the recommendation for zoning secondary school students (more so than is currently the case) on the excuse that it will improve extracurricular participation, he immediately set himself up for a downgrading by the bushman.

The sad truth is that most of the recommendations articulated by the committee are nothing but doltish ramblings without any basis in logic or common sense.

What UWI What??!!

Everyone except apparently those on this committee knows that one of the only factors that can drive some level of efficiency in Barbados is competition. The main benefit of the proposed University College of Barbados was to provide a practical alternative to the mediocrity currently endemic at Cave Hill, for large numbers of students.

A quick look at St Augustine Campus will show that numerous improvements and innovations only suddenly became ‘viable’ AFTER the establishment of UTT.

In a similar vein, why should UWI be guaranteed the intake of the scholarship winners every year? Why should they not have to compete for these students by offering the best options to stimulate their enrollment? The committee is saying that Barbados should place all their academic eggs in UWI’s broken basket – when far better developmental options may be out there to take our best brains to their maximum potential.

…Hilary must be on that committee….

What zoning what??!!

Notwithstanding the ridiculous ‘benefit’ proposed by Principal Jeff Broomes about improved extra curricular participation, the committee would need to explain the basis upon which it recommends tighter zoning. Why should a parent not have the right to send their child to WHICHEVER school they feel comfortable with – provided that the child meets the 11+ requirements for that school?

What makes Mr. Broomes or any education official more qualified than a parent to make this determination?

~Suppose the parent or a close relative works at the “far-away” school?

~Suppose a grand mother lives next door to the distant school – while parents work in town?

Stupseeee

What sixth form in every school what??!!

Towards what end are they recommending a sixth form in each school?

Unless there is a well thought out strategic goal in mind that drives this proposal with solid facts and data, this sounds just like another arbitrary brainwave that is driven more by the number of senior teaching posts that will be created than by any logical benefits to Barbadian youth.

What is wrong with Community College?

What take TWO secondary schools out to become what trade schools what??!!

Based on what??? Why not take 12 out? Is this just another expensive experiment too? After two years of research you would think that such a recommendation would be based on some clear strategic goals with coherent metrics to support the proposal.

With this poor level of planning being perpetrated on the people of Barbados at the so called ‘National policy level’ it is no wonder that we are at a loss to make sensible national decisions –particularly in crisis times. Does this not sound familiarly like the kind of ‘planning’ that went into Greenland, ABC flyover expansion, Dodds etc?

The real joke is that it is presentations such as these that garner PhD degrees at UWI. No wonder we need to bring experts from over and away to get anything done bout here…


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180 responses to “Another Meaningless Education Report From NACE”


  1. Gosh Bushman, a little* harsh maybe? You need to ask to see the brief the NACE received from government. Actually you were not harsh at all. We continue to make mock sport at the serious education reforms needed in Barbados.


  2. nice one bush man


  3. @BushTea,

    Excellently said, well written and overall wonderful submission, Sir.

    On the issue of fixing scholarship winners to one University, surely this is against the benefit of having our ‘bright and hardest-working’ going to top international institutions to being back the latest state-of-the-art learning?

    On top of this, I am hearing regular complaints as to the very mediocre adminstration at UWI, people waiting ages for anything to get done.

    Then, on the issue of trade schools, I agree we need to expand, but expand the Polytechnic, even to another campus if necessary. Economies of scale and a central management would be the main claim to this.

    Then, on the issue of sixth forms, I actually agree fully with this. The Community College is excellent, but it is full to the brim.

    It is better to improve scope and standards at existing schools.

    On the issue of performance, I would suggest some practicality being brought into schools after CXC’s such as students working with some form of work attachments etc, to assist in both technical understanding and also with understanding the importance of the work environment such as ethic etc.

    I agree that much needs to be done, and that more understanding must be developed, of the factors for success and how these may be measured.


  4. ahh we currently on the uwi issue on lorenzo page @ facebook david


  5. As far as I know, Dr Brooomes is a Cambridge man.

    I will have to read the report myself, but from what I am seeing, the report is the typical report we get- a repeat of what we have been hearing for 40 years.

    Let us all have a read and look at the basis for the recommendations.


  6. @Bush Tea…

    Any time you want to sit down for a game of Go, just let me know; I’ll bring the board and stones.

    I won’t ask for a handicap, but I would appreciate it if you would be gentle….


  7. @anthony

    Will be over shortly.


  8. BT

    No doubt the newspaper report is but a brief summary of the committee’s extensive document, and it probably does not do justice to the value of the work done.
    *************************
    And this is precisely why one should wait before issuing condemnations, there will be enough time to examine and offer criticism or praise when the report is released to the public. But if you want to get your licks in early……


  9. @Sargeant
    “….this is precisely why one should wait before issuing condemnations,”
    ********************************************************************************
    Have you actually ever seen such a report circulated Sargeant? In my experience, the way that these things go, we will get a summary of the things that the Minister wanted to do from the very start (ie the newspaper “release”.)
    ……there will then be a period of consolidation and even maybe a town hall meeting (I explained these some time ago LOL) and then the authorities will do what they wanted to from the very beginning…. claiming that this ‘committee’ steered the way.

    This would be fine if the proposals were sensible or even viable….. but there are too many hidden agendas around.

    Naw!!! we need to fix these schemes UP FRONT….


  10. @Sargeant…

    OK. Then please tell us all this…

    Where *exactly* is this report publically available?


  11. I don’t see any thing wrong with the recommendations. Outside that implementing them might be costly.


  12. At some level the results are what certain interests wanted, and was a foregone conclusion before the start. I wonder what was their recommendation about cellphones.? The university college was a good idea to rationalise resources and bring cost efficiencies to further expansion of tertiary education. Over 3000 turned away from BCC yearly, and almost same number for SJPP. Did they have a recommendation for managing this overflow if they do not have an upgrade and expansion to create University College of B’dos? If not it is just cosmetic to justify predetermined actions by Minister of Education?


  13. @Sargeant

    Your Bajan qualities are overflowing, you are way too correct …lol.

    @Bush Tea

    A key criticism in your submission is the lack of empirical data to support recommendations made. Will be interesting to confirm if these were made from the seat of the ass.


  14. When a report is commissioned expect that the fee charged will be well over three hundred thousand dollars ac so the cost done start…!

    Bushman

    Yah bright fah trut but I say that only because you have the ability to structure a line of thought and define concepts without having to refer to some text but I prefer not to refer to our scholarship winners as our “best brains” or “brightest” as Crusoe would say… they most certainly are the more disciplined and trainable, but please, leave words like “best” to describe the innovative and intelligent amongst us.

    By the way, nah mention was made of Co-education?

  15. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Just a few thoughts .
    Re The report’s proposal to establish sixth forms in every school is of course nonsense and a retrogressive step. In his wisdom Sir E L Sandiford in 1969 established the Barbados Community College as a sixth form school. Some of the best teachers from Combermere School especially and a few from here and there were lured to the then BCC. The BCC has evolved into a very interesting institution and has branched out to offer many diverse courses. Surely it would be best to expand both the scope and diversity of the offerings of the BCC.

    4o years ago we did not think that the smaller number of secondary schools then all have sixth forms; why do we think that we should back peddle now is beyond my comprehension.

    Why should we take 2 schools out to become trade schools? The SJPP is another institution that has grown by leaps and bounds in its enrollment and the diversity of its course offerings. Why are we not making efforts to improve this institution further, instead.

    On zoning. Some idiot in the 70’s because they wanted to destroy Mr Smith and the Lodge School inter alia messed around with what was then and for time immemorial “natural zoning.”. In the good old days we Ch Ch folk went generally to Foundation. The St Philip folk went to St John or Foundation, and the folk from the north to CP and Alexandra. Later they came to HC or QC for A levels prior to the advent of the BCC.

    Zoning is not really new. As it existed back before the 70’s when Billie the bully started to destroy the Educational system in Barbados, it worked well.

    Is some one in the Ministry or in Educational circles trying to reinvent the wheel?


  16. Wasn’t the University College of Barbados suppose to amalgamate the BCC and SJPP? It seemed to make good sense at the time building on existing infrastructure as Crusoe opined earlier.


  17. GP you bright too… and I say that wid reverence and trepidation…!


  18. Zoning is a bad solution two of the problems it is intended to solve.
    A poor public transportation system and an inequitable distribution of good teachers.
    Improve the above and there would be no need for Zoning.

    A zoning plan was created in the 70s when Billie Miller was Minister of Education.
    A certain red fella spent a weekend at home creating a demographic map of school age children in Barbados using information from the statistical department to create the Zones.

    Now we have a new study regurgitating the same Zoning nonsense.

    Students who get Government paid Education should be required to return and work in Barbados for 5 years or if they want to work overseas pay back the scholarship money.

    Limiting Scholarship winners to studying at UWI is not a good idea. There are some overseas Universities that offer courses and other resources not available at UWI.

  19. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    BAFBFP

    I dont agree with you that our scholarship winners are NOT our “best brains” or “brightest” and that they are merely the more disciplined and trainable……….or that the best are only the “innovative and intelligent amongst us.”

    How do you define intelligent Sir. Does not the word intelleigent come from intellegere = to understand?

    I will invite you to go into the hall at HC and look up at the names of the Scholarship winners. You will see the names of three of our prime ministers, and the names of some very worthy citizens.

    Fromrelating to many of our best and brightest I found that these guys were no more disciplined or trainable, man. Of course you had a few geeks and some pushed by family etc, but I met some chaps whom I had to admire for thier latent ability, man.

    I will tell you from personal experience too that the innovation of many of these best and brightest was so hampered and supressed and repressed that they had to flee from our shores man.

    In addition many of our best and brightest fell by the wayside for many other reasons. I wont go any further. LOl


  20. OK GP. De red fella was just a guvment employee doing his job as instructed by a PS at the request of Billie.

    De red fella, a Kolij man, was a DLP at de time but was duty bound by civil service rules to create her Zoning map.

  21. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    When I started to go to secondary school nearly every one in my area and the areas for miles around went to Foundation. I can remember only one lad who went to Kolij. He went also to the Technical School before it became SJJP and evinced his innovatiobn by starting a solar company.

    Its only after the screening test that the best started to go to other schols. 5 boys in my class went to Koolj after the screening test and 5 to Lodge school of these only 2 were not Ch Ch fellas.

    We did have some fellas on the bus route from St Michael and St Philip wjp came to Foundation but most of the Foundation roll were Ch Ch people. Many of us went to church and Sunday school at the Parish Ch.

    Billie and Co began thedestruction of our educational system and messed up the Lodge School I dont think it has ever regained its former glory

    They say zoning will improve extracuricular activity. Nonsense. Bilie and Co destroyed that with co education. In my day we had much greater respect for girls than you see today.

  22. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    When I got to HC I had never been second to anyone in class ever. I met some chaps who were just bright (maybe they were smarter than I was and actually studied and did serious homework) but I didnt have that family structure to guide me.

    Many poor boys went to Kolij and fell by the wayside for that reason. No teacher at Kolij helped boys to advance. You were criticised and punished for not excelling , but no one helped you to excel.

    Up to today check and see whose children get the scholarships.

    One of the major things our education sysem need is a way to MOTIVATE STUDENTS. This may be difficult since youth dont always relate present occurences to future sucess or failure.


  23. Bushman, I tip my hat off to you. I must admit, you don’t hold water in your mouth or write with a slippery hand.

    If anyone from the Ministry of Ed reads this Blog, it should give him or her food for thought to possibly reconsider with fair judgment the alleged report.


  24. GP,

    I dun say you bright, man lef it at dat nah…!?, Man all I hearing you to say is that the intelligent boys “understood” and that three Prime Ministers that went to Crumpton Street High understood too. But understandin’ Macro Economic theory and Principles of Law is awesome stuff… seriously Georgie, Biochemistry comes easy to you but I say to you that acquiring information through processing “written” words is a skill that requires a specific type of “discipline”, the type that separates good academics from the rest… The truly bright people are the ones who can accurately access a general situation (particularly outside of their normal sphere of activity) and adequately solve it, or at the very least provide the solutions for other people to implement and solve (the “brighter” the person, the more quickly the solution would be formulated). Now I am not sure which of the PM’s or the other names that you refer to fall comfortably into that category. Were any of these people innovative problem solvers… or quoters of texts? (Again GP, I know you bright bright…)


  25. I would like to suggest that the designers of schools in Ba’bados should think through the landscaping aspect and have lots of trees included to enhance the environment and make the institutions less forbidding. If children from unfortunate backgrounds are enticed to prefer the school atmosphere over their accustomed surroundings… man bright people should be able to un’stan where dis heading…


  26. @BAFBFP ‘University, surely this is against the benefit of having our ‘bright and hardest-working’

    Note that I did NOT say ‘brightest’ nor ‘best’, I said bright and hardest-working, thereby recognising that while one HAD to be bright to get a scholarship, it took hard work too.

    There were many brilliant boys at school with me, who did not get scholarships, due to lack of diligence.

    But, not to say that some scholarship winners are not inherently brilliant, many must be.

    That indicates another problem, that many are fuelled into traditional areas, such as law and medicine, very good and much needed, but they are then embedded in innovation that the average man does not see directly, such as medical improvements, legal disctinctions etc, such not as easily seen as a ‘solar company’.

    Service and innovation comes in many forms, civilisation is developed in many forms.

    GP’s point on motivation is excellent and to the point. Surely motivation also comes from opportunity i.e. given the chance to understand the importance and scope of life that education provides.

    Education is more than just algebra, it must bring the individual to a sense of learning and thrust for advancement.

    No?


  27. The question has been asked above but can the public be assured this report will be made PUBLIC?

  28. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    BAFBFP
    The point I was making is not so much that I am/was bright, but that I met boys whom I thought were sharper than I, but who were quite normal otherwise. They pitched marbles , jumped the drain, kicked balls played bat and ball etc.

    Understanding Macro Economic theory and Principles of Law is easy to bright boys Others have to work hard at it I don’t understand why bright boys at med school run from Biochemistry though

    Mr Barrow and Mr Adams and even Mr Sandiford (for startng the BCC) were innovative during their service. i.e they were able to understand needs and had the skill, guts, ideas etc to implement them. That is the point I was making.

    Like you, I am aware of those who are considered bright because they ace exams who are just good memorizers or regurgitators, but are poor at applying what they learn. I absolutely agree with you that all A students are not at all the same. Some are analyzers ; some mere memorizers or regurgitators.

    I can assure you that many of our scholarship winners were indeed innovative problem solvers

    I agree with you that acquiring information through processing “written” words is a skill that requires a specific type of “discipline”, (MOSTLY PATIENCE & ANALYSIS ) the type that separates good academics from the rest…

    I agree with you also that “The truly bright people are the ones who can accurately access a general situation (particularly outside of their normal sphere of activity) and adequately solve it, or at the very least provide the solutions for other people to implement and solve (the “brighter” the person, the more quickly the solution would be formulated).” These persons are in the true top drawer.

    You are saying that the truly bright folk have sharp analytical skills. That is a dangerous thing to do in Bim and in many places, because whereas you might think you are helping and providing the obvious and simplest answer, many around you will see you as a threat.

    Real bright persons among us who are poor under these circumstances tend to look only to survive rather than to excel.

    I will suggest to you too, that there are many who though not considered to be “bright” or A students are in this category. They have long realized that only certain persons are expected to excel, so they decide to survive. They have had their brilliant ideas stolen or rejected.
    About ten years ago one of my nurse friends came to me for ideas to write her MPH thesis on issues relevant to Bim. As one of my thoughts, I suggested that we should give the mail carriers relevant training so that they can relate certain early signs of problems in the elderly population whom they must visit on a daily basis- even when their relatives and close friends cant. She replied that such and such a Minister of Health had said so. I laughed and told her, the Minister got that from me via the Senior Medical Officer of Health. When I proposed this idea to the dummy, he flatly rejected it and told me The postmen don’t have the necessary training.” My response was “Neither did we before me were trained.” I forgot all about it until this lady mentioned it 8-9 years later. It still has not been implemented. I wont bore you with similar ideas that I proposed that have been rejected.

    In Barbados the cream is often not allowed to rise to the top!

  29. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Crusoe points out the important issue that “ many are fuelled into traditional areas, such as law and medicine,” This is true. What is not often known is that once one has become a doctor that folk think that that is what you ought to be. That is considered such a zenith, that obstacles are put in the way for rebels such as I to do anything of a “lesser” importance.

    No one stops to think that to some doctors the practice of medicine is oft en boring. Just as very few take the time to see that so called bad behaved boys at school are just bored stiff. Who care how many wives King Henry had. Or whether Columbus really came in 1492 or whether he actually had premature ejaculations. Boring!

    Having been pigeon holed into certain professions or vocations it is often thought that such a person can do little else….except become a very lousy politician, as is the case in Bim.

    I agree that education is more than just algebra, it is HELPING YOUNG FOLK TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH A KNOWLEDGE OF ALGEBRA,


  30. Barbadian education is trending towards what is to be found in most american cities. The unfortunate things is that Americans are fighting back against zoning, poor performing public schools, with home-schooling, private and charter schools.

    In my own neck of the woods I am lock into a poor performing school due to zoning. I sent my son to private school and now he is transferring to a charter school.


  31. @Bush Tea,

    While you’re lengthily lamenting the state of public education in Barbados, you might want to reconsider the phrasing of your question #5: “Where does the best opportunities lie to improve results being obtained?”

    You remember that old-fashioned and perhaps outdated notion of making a verb agree in number with a noun? We learned it at our mothers’ knees before we even went to school? Ring any bells?

    By the way, your suggestion that the committee’s recommendations “sound intelligent” is highly debatable. They sound like the kind of business-speak vacuities produced daily by dullards who want to be “management consultants”. The probability is high, at least, that any sentence containing the verb “to enhance” was not produced by the brightest mind on the block.

    You get credit, nonetheless, for avoiding that peculiar Bajan malaise of littering your prose with pointless and random capitalization. As far as I can tell, you only fell down once on that front (“National”).


  32. On a slightly different track I want to commmend Karen Best for speaking out about the curriculum. I have heard former teachers comment on it, that it is too hard and unless parents actually sit and help with the hmeowrk and help with the research children cannot master the material. Other teachers agree that the system is creating the failures. Primary school children are asked to do things that we did not do until 3rd form in secondary school. We need to look at that and stop creating a system that fails children. This will only swell the block


  33. @Bajan Truth

    Can’t say if the curriculum is hard, the question BU can ask is what are the inputs used to build the curriculum for the primary level by the ministry?


  34. @Jack Bowman:
    ” making a verb agree in number with a NOUN”

    is that true? or should the verb agrees with the subject?

  35. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    The curriculum is probably not hard because many of the students are capable of doing it.

    What is probably more relevant is to let the high flyers go at their pace, and the slow learners at another pace, or to do certain core subjects along with some practical electives.

    What I have learned from online teahing is that there is a need not to concentrate so much on the material to be taught but on motivating and assisting some of the slower learners.


  36. @GP

    Point taken, you maybe aware however many of the brand name primary schools in Barbados currently practice streaming which runs counter to the stated policy of multi-ability classrooms by the ministry of education.


  37. I will tell you from personal experience too that the innovation of many of these best and brightest was so hampered and supressed and repressed that they had to flee from our shores man.

    _________________________________________-

    Are you referring to one’s self?????? LOL

    GP I think you have a lot to offer my son and company. I really do!

    What you said that I have highlighted is indeed true!

    I have a question to ask: How are you supposed to look when you are ‘bright’?

    Imagine someone looked at my son recently and told him that he did’nt look as if he was bright and they could not believe that he had gotten to Foundation LOL!

    I was amused or should I say bemused. Cause it seems as if only a certain type of person is to go to a particular school!

    Bush Tea tell these BRIGHT PEOPLE for me cause I don’t understand these people’s logic.

    Stupse!


  38. @ Adrian Hinds

    Quoting Adrian Hinds:
    ___________________________________________________
    “@Jack Bowman:
    ” making a verb agree in number with a NOUN”
    is that true? or should the verb agrees with the subject?”
    ___________________________________________________

    The verb should agree with its subject. In this case the subject is a noun. You’re making a distinction without a difference and are thereby being tiresome.

    By the way, in the phrase “should the verb agrees with the subject”, the noun/subject requires “agree”, not “agrees” as you have it.

    Keep up the good work, or at least keep making your best efforts. The brain power on this blog is absolutely heart-stopping, wouldn’t you agree?.

    Best wishes to you, sir.

  39. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    No David
    I didn’t know that they were brand name primary schools ,. Nor did I know there was streaming. And I don’t think teachers should really care two hoots about the policies of the Ministry
    To have the high flyers in classes with slower learners is nonsense because the slow learners find it demoralizing. We have destroyed many a slow learner by telling him that he is duncy or that he will never make it. Some folk take longer to grasp info, but they are likely to follow it faithfully. Many such are capable of being trained for simple but vital roles in society. Many such are smarter than we think. Many such have gone abroad and done well in different school systems .

    I have a cousin who spent from 63-69 to reach 3 R at HC. He migrated to the USA and got an MD from Ross medical school in Dominica and is a great teacher of AL:L the Basic medical sciences to Nursing students in NY for over 22 years.

    I interacted with the son of one of my nurses who was rebelling at the Common entrance stage from pressure at his school about going to HC. He got into Ellerslie and was the happiest and well adjusted boys over night. Many children know that certain schools are just not for them.

    There are too many idiots in the Ministry.
    In the early days of the BLP administration I brought in a product that was a great aid for Arithmetic. I would take it from my desk and show it to my patients who were primary school teachers and ask them what they would do with it. They ALL saw its benefits immediately.

    I then took it to the Ministry and showed it to the jackass who was supposed to be a primary school teacher for 25 years—— you know the parliamentary representative who had to get a certain doctor to help her write her little thesis at Erdiston, and she dismissed me.
    So if the tail wagging the dog in Education it might well be appropriate for the teachers to do what is practically and psychologically correct for the students


  40. @GP

    The irony if one may call it that is the unacceptable position of the streaming being done in the same* classroom!

  41. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    JC // June 24, 2010 at 1:29 PM
    I will tell you from personal experience too that the innovation of many of these best and brightest was so hampered and suppressed and repressed that they had to flee from our shores man. Are you referring to one’s self? YES AND OTHERS

    Re GP I think you have a lot to offer my son and company. I really do! Thanks LOL

    I noticed an ad for a teacher in Science at Foundation. That would be nice to return to that school in any capacity LOL
    How are you supposed to look when you are ‘bright’? LIKE YOUR SELF LOL!

    Re Imagine someone looked at my son recently and told him that he did’nt look as if he was bright and they could not believe that he had gotten to Foundation LOL! Well folk in BU talk a lot of BS and try to pull down others

    I remember one the lady next door telling my mom that my last brother would not be anything more than a bus driver. Soon after he passed for Lodge. She had to pay to send each of her six children to the Private High School’s that we had in Bim in those days.

    You ought not to bother about what has been said about your lad. You need to encourage him, monitor his efforts and motivate him to do the best he can Maybe in six years time you will be able to mockingly ask these folk for a reassessment of your son.

    Best wishes to your lad.

    I remember the girl I met for the first time at the bus stop that first day in 62. That girl left GFS and worked in the Hospital lab and did a sterling job in Chemical Pathology for over 30 years!

    Many days I wish that I was not bright at al It has only made me enemies


  42. @ Jack Bowman
    Thanks as usual for your reliable rod of correction. However I am quite sure that you know by now that the bushman has scant respect for the intricacies of grammatical exactitude.
    …by the way, good to have you back, the Bushman was beginning to worry that CH had so intimidated you, that you had retreated not only from the Garrison, but also from the blog…… I think that you fell down on that one too…. LOL
    Have you noted how much more assertive and ‘testosterone driven’ Chris has been since that victory? The man even challenging the bush man to something name ‘GO’… Well! Well! Well!

    @ JC
    Bush Tea tell these BRIGHT PEOPLE for me cause I don’t understand these people’s logic.
    *****************************************************************************************
    Count me out of that lotta long talk about ‘bright people’ hear JC? What has that got to do with a national education system?

    Why is a ‘bright’ Bajan any more entitled to succeed than one who is a natural athlete, a physically strong worker or a gifted artist or musician?

    A Bajan is a Bajan. If your son turns out to be ‘bright’ like GP, would that give you the right to spend all your time and money on him to the neglect of another son who was equally talented- but in sport?

    Our education system should be committed to providing all the support, facilities and resources needed to permit every Barbadian child an equal opportunity to develop and refine his or her natural talents to the best that they can possible achieve within the limits of our national resources.

    (Check that for me Jack! i hope um right!…)

    This would immediately mean that our system could be measured at around 20% efficiency (it does quite well with the academically talented children), however in terms of developing our OTHER children – it is a dismal failure.

    An obvious solution would be to introduce about ten more 11+exams.

    ~ an 11+ exam in sports
    ~ an 11+ exam in music
    ~ an 11+ exam in home making
    etc
    …. you get my drift JC?
    Then what we would do is to introduce centers of excellence in these specialist areas at various schools just as Harrison College, Queens College etc are centers of excellence in academics and where the talented children in that area are channeled.

    …man this thing is so obvious and so easy to do that it is only because we live in a time when “the first shall be last and the last shall be first” that we fail to see this…


  43. Tiresome Jackie? Wuh We are discussing the only thing gives you power. LOL!

    You made a statement about wuh you learn at somebody knee or some such crap. It was an independent statement.

    Where you thought the notion of making a verb agree in number with a NOUN? or with a subject?

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    David
    If a teacher can stream in the same* classroom, that teacher should be highly rated and appreciated.

    I see nothing unacceptable about that .

    It requires great skill to do that; and that in my view is the mark of an innovative caring teacher.

    Such a teacher is literally using the same course to prepare several “horses”.

    Why should they be penalized for realizing and responding to the needs of different students.

    Can you see MME and NS and BT in the same class room? Huh?

    If they put Rok in the same class as me man I would leave school and go fish in the Careenage and come back the day of the exam. I would be bored to death

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    David can you see Zoe and Techie in the same class in Biblical geography and history? Me na tink so LOL


  46. Does anybody the persons who comprise the education committee?


  47. @GP

    You maybe trivialising the point about streaming and multi-ability. The policy of the ministry is multi-ability. Why are many of the primary schools streaming? To counter your point, it is being done at the expense of slow learners. Many of the teachers practice streaming and given the heavy curriculum invite the top pupils (to be found in the front rows) to attend extra classes at their homes.

    Question to those in the know, did NACE address the need for continuous assessment as a quality control tool in the school system?

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    David
    You don’t seem to understand that I don’t have much respect for the MOE, and the clowns that are a part of that circus

    Children and students have multiple levels of ability. They just are NOT equal as some would wish to believe. Streaming ought not to be done the expense of slow learners, but for their benefit.

    There is nothing wrong with teachers inviting the top pupils to attend extra classes at their homes. You know what happen to the fellow who gained ten talents in the parable? LOL Teachers who do this ought to be lauded. Cant they do this on their own time in their own homes once they don’t “pull at the children?.”

    Do you think that if the slow learners sat in the front row they would learn more or better? I doubt it. Maybe the slow learners need an extra year.

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    Bush Tea // June 24, 2010 at 2:13 PM

    Whereas there is some merit in this post you might find that some of the acaedmics also excel at music and sports as well! LOL eg Dr VS Evelyn was not only a great student at BFS but and outstanding athlete and a great pianist.

    However, an effort must indeed be made to accomodate the gifted in our school system in a diversity of areas as suggested.

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