rwandaOne issue coming out  of The Race Card blog is the blurred reality which many Barbadians have of life on the African continent. Some BU family members mentioned Rwanda and other African countries based on interpretations from books. Reading is a good activity to cultivate but when combined with first hand feedback, the power of cross fertilization makes the learning experience a powerful one.

Living in Barbados blogger who has worked many years on the African continent facilitated an exchange with his African friend who endured a horrible experience in Rwanda. BU believes the personal testimony quoted below may bring life to the reality for many living in Africa.

They killed my Children; I will not let them kill my soul too.

Kanyankore Rudasingwa Marcel
Denmark, 27 January 2003

I survived the Rwandese genocide through luck. I left Rwanda on a business trip on April 5th 1994. Twenty-four hours later the killings started. My family was trapped in the genocide. My wife survived but our five children did not. They were killed together with their grandmother, three cousins, an uncle an aunt and over 60 other people.

We learned from eyewitnesses that the carnage occurred on May 20th 1994. Our children: Paul, Edna, Christa, Emmanuella and Benjamin were 12, 10, 8, 6, and 4 when their lives were cut short. My wife and I have heard shocking accounts of what happened. We will never get to know the whole truth of what happened. Our main source of information was from people suspected of complicity or ashamed of doing nothing to avert the slaughter.

It all started in mid April when, more out of desperation than faith, some people gathered for sanctuary at the Central Rwanda Adventist Mission. On 20th May, the mission Treasurer called these people out of their hiding places to allegedly receive rations.  They were gathered in my father-in-law’s backyard located at the entrance to the mission. As though on cue, a jeep full of armed gendarmes (police) sped into the compound as soon as all the people were gathered. To prevent the escape of the powerless group of children, women and mostly elderly men, some of the gendarmes brandished machine guns with bayonets menacingly clamped on them.

One aged Pastor sprung up from the crowd and tried to run. He was shot from the back. To frighten other escape attempts he was left to slowly die a few meters from the crowd.

At about three o’clock in the afternoon, the gendarmes commandeered a school truck from a college neighbouring the mission. About 70 people were huddled onto the truck and transported to their massacre 10 kilometres north of the mission. We are told that as the truck sped to the disastrous destination, meek and shaky voices sang church hymns until the truck stopped on the slopes of an isolated village called Gitovu.

The manner in which our children and the other people were killed was atrocious. One would have expected the gendarmes to shoot them, which would at least quickly end their commission and the victims’ anguish. On the contrary, we are told that the gendarmes incited the villagers gathered around the scene to strip the people and kill them with their machetes and clubs. The gendarmes supervised the butchery that followed. The people were then hastily buried in a shallow rift.

In July 1994 I went to the mission to try and find out what had happened. Ironically, it is the same Treasurer that drove me to the site where our children and the other people were killed. Strong evidence was later established and he was arrested in September 1994. He is still in prison awaiting trial. Almost 10 years after, we are still waiting for some justice to be done. I say some justice because the mission Treasurer is only one of the suspects. Other suspects are on the run. We expect that through the case of the Treasurer we will know who else was involved.

Tonight, I thank the organisers of this event for the opportunity to share the story of my family. Telling their story is the most significant memorial for them and other victims. Memorials are so that people do not remain ignorant of a tragedy. When people know what happened, they will want to understand why it happened. Trying to understand why genocides happen may yield more questions than answers.

Despite the frustration of too many questions and not enough answers, the search for truth and justice remains for me an inspiration in life. Succumbing to the pangs of my tragedy would be the delight of the perpetrators of the Rwandese genocide. They killed my children; I will not let them kill my soul too.

45 responses to “The Testimony Of A Rwandan”


  1. The horrors of Rwanda will forever be a stain on the concience of the rest of the world, which stood by and did nothing. It is difficult to imagine the inspeakable horror of those events. My heart goes out to Mr Marcel and the thousands like him.

  2. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @David,
    I presume you have sent a link to Marcel.

    I will go on record here as saying that I personally will take a very dim view of any who feel this is an issue where they can heap abuse on my friend or his family, or trivialise their exsperiences. If you do that, I will ensure that they see every such comment and judge as they wish.


  3. @LIB

    We have not done so yet. Our approach would be email any specific concerns to remove Marcel from the hurly burly of a BU discussion.


  4. @LIB

    I have a DVD on this genocide. The story is around a UN Mission that was protecting the Tutsies, but received orders to pull out. They were also under orders not to let a single one of them on their trucks. Instead, all the white people who were there were allowed on the trucks and transported out.

    A white Catholic priest remained with the villagers and he too was butchered after the UN Forces pulled out.

    Now the question is, with such impending danger and with the perpetrators of genocide surrounding the facility with machettes in their hands waiting for the last truck to go before they surged into the compound and severely and brutally chop every man, woman and child to pieces.

    I had to watch that in parts. Brutal!

  5. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @David
    I think common courtesy would suggest you alert him that testimony is not on the Internet. He’s capable of proceeding from there as he wishes, including copying to friends etc.

  6. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @ROK
    “Now the question is, with such impending danger and with the perpetrators of genocide surrounding the facility with machettes in their hands waiting for the last truck to go before they surged into the compound and severely and brutally chop every man, woman and child to pieces.”[Looks like you have not completed the question…]


  7. Noted!

  8. Maggie den Hartiog Avatar
    Maggie den Hartiog

    I think of you and your family often and am humbled by your strength. We can not forget what happened only try to stop this from happening again and again on this continent.

    Take care,
    your old neighbours from Conakry the den Hartogs.


  9. ROK,
    ‘Brutal’ does not begin to describe this heinous, barbaric,malicious, deplorable, heartwrenching, cowardly act perpetrated by these ‘tings’ who camouflage themselves as human-beings. There’s nothing human about them. How could anyone even fathom the thought of hurting innocent people, especially children. Heartless scum.
    They want hanging by their ‘balls’ to drip dry.
    Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
    ROK, I could not watch that video. If Hollywood ‘made-ups’ make me cry, you could just imagine. No boe.


  10. @LIB
    “Looks like you have not completed the question..”

    So sorry. The question is, why did the UN forces pullout?


  11. LIB

    I will go on record here as saying that I personally will take a very dim view of any who feel this is an issue where they can heap abuse on my friend or his family, or trivialise their exsperiences. If you do that, I will ensure that they see every such comment and judge as they wish
    ***********************************
    And what will that prove? Surely you know the myriad blogs on the internet are populated by trolls who make light of tragic incidents. Is that to “tar the image of Bajans” in the eyes of your friend? What is to stop some Thomas, Richard or Harold at any location in the world from posting negative comments under “Anonymous”? As you reiterated on another post “ I’ve read the comments twice and cannot identify at all which are by Jamaicans. Can you help there?” What will you tell your friend about the origin of any negative comments?


  12. @LIB.

    Why do you think that anybody on this blog would trivialise this man’s pain. We are not morons. Is that what you think of the majority of Bajans.

    Of course there will be a jackass or 2 out there (perhaps not even Bajans as Sargeant just said) will say something stupid.

    Get over it, LIB. In the majority, we are decent human beings. Stop threatening us, and lecturing to us, and telling David how to run his blog.


  13. David

    I tried to watch that film again because I must say, it has to hold the answer or clues to the answers. It is a BBC documentary film.

    One thing that is sticking out in my mind is that they were killing not only the Tutsis but any white man they came across. That is an observation.


  14. @ROK

    The BU household continues to struggle with what happened in Rawanda.

  15. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @Sargeant/Sea Cat
    I really did want to read and not comment further, but let me deal with these 2 points: “And what will that prove?” and “Is that what you think of the majority of Bajans[?]”

    I do not believe from what I have seen in recent weeks that all commentators know where to draw the lines with their comments. It’s an observation and I can point to many instances. David’s initial reluctance to take what I thought was a minimal courtesy action, made me uneasy, given how the testimonial was obtained.

    One thing that I have not been able to discern from the blog comments and only a little from the articles is the view of Bajans or come to any conclusion about the view of Bajans.

    Only a few of the contributors are known entities to me, therefore, I cannot deduce, and I have not assumed, that they are Bajans, despite what people may write.

    I am a known entity and my bona fides are clear. I might have missed a few contributros, but Holder, Brathwaite, and Loveridge are real people as far as I know. I cannot say that about any one else. (Perhaps in some coded way some or all of you are known to each other, but that’s to your advantage, not mine.)

    I have seen expressions of sentiments that purport to be Bajan, but that could also be pure, or largely, fiction. I will read on to see if someone(s) can provide PROOF otherwise. (Comments on a Jamaican posting do not constitue ipso facto comments by Jamaicans. That seems obvious, but I guess I should state it.)

    So, I remain where I was before. I take my views about Barbados and Bajans from the people whom I meet. Them, I can confirm.

    One conundrum I will ponder is an inability for people to see that one can happily live in a state/place and yet have a very critical eye on things. To me that is possible; it is not if you are sure you have attained perfection.


  16. @Bonny Peppa

    “‘Brutal’ does not begin to describe this heinous, barbaric,malicious, deplorable, heartwrenching, cowardly act perpetrated by these ‘tings’ who camouflage themselves as human-beings.”

    I am glad that you made that observation. By their minds they were not human. No kind of rationale at all in the killings. Can we say that is as a result of how the system corrupted their minds to render them as madmen?

    So far the only result of racism that we have examined is the one that we know. My take is that the Rwanda events represent another reaction. Not everybody or every set of people will react the same way, even in modern times. I think we need to give humanity its jacket.

  17. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @ROK
    You may want to ask Marcel that UN question via David. I have heard several accounts but I do not know which is true.


  18. Marcel has confrimed to following the blog and promised to comment at some point.


  19. @LIB

    “One conundrum I will ponder is an inability for people to see that one can happily live in a state/place and yet have a very critical eye on things.”

    I am sure that we live it everyday. Hardly anybody walk around looking all unhappy for eyes to see, because all their friends will stop them and ask them what’s wrong…

    but you just stop them and talk to them and if they confide in you, then you will know what’s behind the smile. So yours is no rare ability.

    You are making a simple mistake. You think that what you see on this blog is on the tip of our actions or that it occupies 100% of our attention daily. I have no such time. The blog for me is about sharing and dialogue; even venting. A place where those without voice can scream.

    This is debate. When the politicians done lambasting one another in Parliament, they are the best of friends outside. We have to be mature enough to face the facts and respect opinion.

    If they are the best of friends outside, why take on the fire rage of what any of them said? You outside making enemies and the two that were at each others throats, downstairs in the dining room at lunch or dinner, chatting and laughing with one another.

  20. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @ROK
    In Russian, the standard response during the Soviet Union times was “normal”. No one wanted to be seen as doing well. That was in a centrally planned/controlled economy, where people were supposed to be be treated equally.


  21. @LIB/David

    At the point when the UN Forces pulled out, the catholic school where the UN Forces were headquartered was surrounded by the Hitus brandishing swords.

    By that time, the school had become a refugee camp for the Tutsis. The Tutsis had ran into the school to escape the massacre some days previously. When the news got to the Hitus that the UN Forces were leaving, they began encamping around the school like cats waiting for prey.

    They say that some of it was real footage and the scene of the Tutsis running into the school compound, was heart wrenching as Bonny would say.

    Children holding their heads with total fear in their face. If that was not one of the real scenes, all of them were professional actors.

    By the way, the name of the film is “Shooting Dogs”. Here is the opinion of one victim. She has her head on and sheds some light.


  22. @David,

    Update on the healing:


  23. How do we begin to conceptualize the gravitas of such unspeakable and horrific crimes against the human person?

    Is EVIL* a reality?

    What is the true source of such EVIL?*

    Can EVIL* be tamed, quarantined, or be held at bay?

    Are there invisible forces which perpetuate the actions which lead to such grotesque EVILS?*

    If nothing in life exist without its opposite – then, if there is such EVIL* in our world – why does GOOD* fail so miserable to affect lasting change?

    “We should also remember that most people have no clear concept of the sort of world they wish to build, nor how to go about building it. Even those who are concerned to improve conditions are therefore reduced to combating every apparent evil that takes their attention.”

    “Willingness to fight against evils, whether in the form of conditions or embodied in evil men, has thus become for most people the touchstone by which they judge a person’s moral worth.” (Thoughts from the Bahai Faith)…

    The discussion on this issue moves from beyond the realms of politics, sociology, ethnography and social history into quadrant of profound theology – especially the area of Biblical epistemology.

    Please understand folks that there will be no easy answers…


  24. Many tormented souls question where the evil comes from. Where does it start: is it from the propaganda machines who inflame the populations, or does it come from the populations themselves? Or in part from each? What benefit comes to the INITIATORS when instigating these things? Is the crime due to what they say it is? What crime?

    From only a small amount of news reading concerning Rwanda, it appears that the radio and media there were telling the Hutus to ‘sharpen their cutlasses and prepare to do the country’s duty’ necessary for some time before the actual massacre started. The population did what they were told and followed through with the actions that were planned for them.

    I keep saying that the media has a responsibility to safeguard minorities here in Barbados. Please do not attack me at a personal level- I will not be able to respond. This is about Rwanda and for the writers concerned.

    All this sounds very familiar, re media and propaganda when these giant ethnic massacres happen. To have 2 ethnically indistinuishable peoples, both in part poor, killing innocents is not understandable at an objective level.

    People were removed to areas of killing, and some were killed in situ. Body parts and blood stained the rivers red…literally.

    Now in Rwanda there are the reconciliation tribunals, similar to the ones in South Africa about apartheid, the difference being what types of crimes are being confessed and reconciled. People who live/lived close by one another share their deadly experiences of murder, or of putting each other to death. Many of the perpetrators are being allowed freedom and reconciliation even after their heinous crimes.
    This is quite unique in today’s world, and should be of interest if in fact the media who reported it are correct that this is happenening.

    Let’s not move in media directions like the Rwandans did, because it is this
    evil
    that initiates a xenophobic initial, and later genocidal, trend into an innocent people.

    It could happen here. Never forget, and be ready to work against trends that go in that direction.


  25. THE REAL CAUSE OF THE CIVIL CONFLICT AND SLAUGHTER IN AFRICA:- DARWINISM by HARUN YAHYA*

    It is the perverted teachings of Darwinism that lie at the basis of the internal conflict, wars and climate of instability that developed in the 20th century.

    This ideology proposed the lie that life is a field of struggle, that it is legitimate for the weak, the poor and those it regards in its own eyes as “inferior races” to be oppressed and even eradicated, that at the end of this struggle the “fittest” will survive while the rest are eliminated, and that mankind will “advance” in this way.

    Darwinism has had a long-lasting and damaging effect on the culture of societies and individuals. The perverted idea that life is a supposed “field of struggle” and that people must live to win that struggle or at least to “survive” in that savage environment has spread as a corrupt world view, one that totally violates religious moral values, and has resulted in new life styles that have inflicted disasters on mankind right across the world.

    According to this twisted belief, it is regarded as normal for handicapped people to be rounded up and left to die in concentration camps.

    People’s skulls, height and nostril width must be measured and people classified accordingly.

    So-called lower classes can then be ruthlessly oppressed, exploited and eliminated.

    For people who believe that people and societies can only advance when they put this barbarity into practice, all slaughter, genocide, oppression and ruthlessness is literally regarded as a huge success.

    One of the places where this ruthless and oppressive mindset has led to great suffering, losses and tragedies is Africa.

    According to Darwin, European races were favored races. And according to Darwin’s twisted logic, all Asian and African races had supposedly been left behind during the so-called process of evolution.

    Darwin did not even regard them as human. In his book “the Descent of Man”, he attempted to make various strange racist prophecies.

    In the book, black people and native Australian were considered in the same status as gorillas:-

    “At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes … will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.” (Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York, A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178).

    Darwin’s idea that African races were backward ones needing to disappear during the so-called process of evolution bestowed a supposed legitimacy on the ruthless colonization of Africa and the enslavement of innocent Africans.

    The tragedies Darwinism caused in Africa, however, were not limited to colonialism and slavery.

    The conflicts caused by tribes and communities living in Africa slaughtering one another were also stoked up by the Darwinist mindset.

    Darwinism Brought Conflict to Africa, Which Had Never Known Tribal Wars Prior to Colonization…

    The peoples of Africa lived in tribes for thousands of years. In the period before the Europeans colonized the countries of Africa there had been practically no tribal wars for over 300 years.

    The colonization of the peoples on the continent of Africa was based on the perverted idea that this black race supposedly had not developed as far as the European Anglo-Saxon race.

    According to the Darwinist error, after being colonized by the Europeans, the people of Africa, regarded by the Europeans as not yet having become modern man, were sub-divided into further classes according to a so-called “evolutionary hierarchy,” on the basis of skull volume, skin color, height and bone structures.

    Societies with lighter colored skin, a larger brain volume and greater height were accordingly regarded as a “more advanced race.”

    Physically supposedly more evolved so-called “superior Africans” were thought to be more predisposed to progress, like the Europeans, and were appointed to the leadership of “inferior Africans” and the colonizers thus oppressed those they regarded as inferior races by the hand of those they considered to be more advanced.

    For example, groups raised to positions of leadership lived comfortably, while those peoples regarded as inferior were lashed into working in fields and mines, starved and sterilized; in other words, slaughtered.

    When the colonial powers eventually left these regions, leaving behind no just system or order, the groundwork laid by the Darwinist mindset led to conflict in which millions of people in these countries lost their lives.

    Civil conflicts are still going on in Kenya, Somalia, Darfur, Chad and Sierra Leone.

    A large part of the internal conflicts going on in African countries still stems from discrimination.

    The cruelty wreaked by Darwinist teachings violently manifests itself in this fertile continent.

    When Rwanda became a Belgian colony, for instance, all its ethnic minorities had been living in peace for centuries.

    But Belgian gave the Tutsis and Hutus, who had never been in conflict before then, different identity cards on the basis of their ethnic origins. People were rounded up in groups, and their skull measurements, height, skin color and nasal width recorded.

    Belgium concluded that the Tutsis were supposedly superior to the Hutus, at which the Hutus were forced to labor in the coffee fields under the lash, while the minority Tutsis were put in charge of them.

    The Hutus were exposed to various inhuman practices for many years. Note that the Belgians’ justification for putting the Tutsis in charge was the claim that with their greater height, small noses and lighter skin, the Tutsis were closer to the Europeans on the supposed evolutionary ladder.

    Thus it was that the seeds of discord and conflict were sowed between two societies which had never experienced any problems before.

    Eventually, one of the century’s worst massacres took place in the country, with around a million Tutsis and moderate Hutus being slaughtered in just 100 days.

    The great majority of the internal conflicts in Africa today stem from ethnic divisions left over from colonial times.

    Peoples who had lived in peace and regarded one another as equal for hundreds of years were then exposed to oppression through Darwinist ideas and incited against one another.

    A climate of insecurity and distrust was established, and peoples forced to live under oppressive circumstances were forced into conflict with one another.

    Ruthless class struggle, one of the beliefs of the heretical religion of Darwinism, shed vast quantities of blood on this delightful continent.

    (THANKS TO Dr. YAHYA FOR THIS WONDERFUL EXPOSITION ON THE ISSUES THAT FACE US AS PEOPLE OF COLOR)…


  26. I thank all of you for accepting to share my testimony. This is an honor to all the victims of the rwandan tragedy. As an initial participation; hopefully I will continue to engage, Iwish to ask a question. If everyone irrespective of race, gender and religious orientation has potential for civility, what is it in human history that drives the human race into debauchery?


  27. Greed, Marcel, pure greed.


  28. Hear hear Straight talk!


  29. Fear can make people act like devils, greed too.

    Whatever it is, it seems to be in the mind of every human, dormant, waiting for the right signal.

    This same human mind is capable of imagining practically anything …….. The Pyramids, TheTaj Mahal, Skyscrapers, Man on the Moon, and then organizing the resources to get it done.

    Perhaps the downside of the power of the human mind is its capacity to also imagine evil, and once something can be imagined, it can be done.

    The golden rule “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” is present in some form or fashion in the major religions.

    Notice it doesn’t admonish or limit a person to think good thoughts, or no thoughts.

    If a person tries to live by that simple golden rule then evil thoughts directed at others must be managed and not entertained and the possibility of doing something evil is reduced.

    One way is to try to replace them by good thoughts and often these lead to positive action which benefits and uplifts us all.

    Certainly it is not possible to stop thinking for any extendedperiod of time.

    Thinking is like breathing.

    Marcel, I would like to ask a question and I hope it is not too painful.

    I had decided I was not going to participate in this thread as I found it too upsetting.

    I have written this and put it to sit for a while before posting it.

    If I am out of order please say.

    You went on a business trip and left your children.

    What struck me about this is that the evil which surfaced after you left was not generally expected, certainly not by you.

    It just seems to have been switched on, as if a group of people were programmed to act a certain way after a signal ….

    …. or as if a single minded group of people deliberately and secretly planned and executed a sequence of actions.

    My question is: Were there signs before you left?


  30. @ John August 14, 2009 at 9:30am

    Quote…”It just seems to have been switched on, as if a group of people were programmed to act in a certain way after a signal”…

    May I say the capacity for men to do evil things has always been with us; they have not got to be “programmed” or to wait for a signal. Greed, inhumanity and a belief that their environment would accept it, plays a part…it has always been so.

    We have not even got to travel as far away as Rwanda in Africa…just take Barbados first and then the Caribbean.

    “But even by contemporary standards, the punishments meted out to the slaves were horrifying…

    In 1675 slaves involved in a plot in Barbados were sentenced to be burned alive, some to be beheaded and others dragged through the streets. A rebel in Antigua in 1687 was “burned to ashes”; another had his leg and his tongue cut off” as a living example to the rest”…

    That my dear friend John, is man’s capacity for inhumanity.


  31. @ MARCEL’s question:

    “What is it in human history that drives the human race into debauchery?”

    Here’s a historical note that should some resonance to this niggling, nagging, perplexing question that only The Creator God will be able to answer.

    During the last days of his life Jesus (The Messiah) had assembled His disciples together on the Mt. of Olives overlooking the Temple.

    The disciples were uncertain and anxious about the future especially in light of Jesus’ cleansing of the Temple and stopping the sacrifices, and his astonishing statements delivered in holy anger denouncing the Pharisees.

    (Prophetic claims that were still oblivious to them).

    The disciples opened the conversation by talking about the beauty of the temple and its courts.

    Jesus opened his amazing and detailed reply by predicting the “Soon-Coming” destruction of that magnificent building.

    Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down.”

    As He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the close of the age (or end of the world?” (Matthew 24:1-3)…

    This is a very poignant reality that many choose to ignore at their own peril!!!

    Both the Temple and the City of Jerusalem were indeed about to be destroyed.

    With four Legions, Titus the Roman General, later to become Caesar, began the siege of Jerusalem in April, A.D. 70. He posted his 10th legion on the Mount of Olives, directly east of and overlooking the Temple Mount.

    The 12th and 15th legions were stationed on Mount Scopus, further to the east and commanding all the ways up to Jerusalem from east to north. The 5th legion was held in reserve.

    On the 10th of August, in A.D. 70 – (the 9th of Av) – in Jewish reckoning, the very day when the King of Babylon burned the first Temple in 586 B.C.,(when Daniel & the Hebrew boys were taken away captives) the Temple was burned again. Titus took the city and put it to the torch, burning the Temple.

    Jewish historian, Flavius Josephus was present in Jerusalem when the city was captured and the Temple was burnt. He described the event in this manner:

    “The Romans, though it was a terrible struggle to collect the timber, raised their platforms in twenty-one days, having as described before stripped the whole area in a circle round the town to a distance of ten miles. The countryside like the City was a pitiful sight; for where once there had been a lovely vista of woods and parks there was nothing but desert and stumps of trees. No one – not even a foreigner – who had seen the Old Judea and the glorious suburbs of the City, and now set eyes on her present desolation, could have helped sighing and groaning at so terrible a change; for every trace of beauty had been blotted out by war, and nobody who had known it in the past and came upon it suddenly would have recognized the place: when he was already there he would still have been looking for the City. (Flavius Josephus, The Jewish War, p. 303)

    Josephus speaks of the house to house fighting that occurred:-

    “These Romans put the Jews to flight, and proceeded as far as the holy house itself. At which time one of the soldiers, without staying for any orders, and without any concern or dread upon him at so great an undertaking, and being hurried on by a certain divine fury, snatched some what out of the materials that were on fire, and being lifted up by another soldier, he set fire to a golden window, through which there was a passage to the rooms that were round about the holy house, on the north side of it. As the flames went upward, the Jews made a great clamour, such as so mighty an affliction required, and ran together to prevent it; and now they spared not their lives any longer, nor suffered anything to restrain their force, since that holy house was perishing . . . thus it was the holy house burnt down . . . Nor can one imagine any thing greater or more terrible than this noise; for there was at once a shout of the Roman Legions, who were marching all together, and a sad clamour of the seditious, who were now surrounded with fire and sword . . . the people under a great consternation, made sad moans at the calamity they were under.”

    “Yet was the misery itself more terrible than this disorder; for one would have thought that the hill itself, on which the Temple stood, was seething hot, as full of fire on every part of it.”(Josephus, Antiquities xi. 1.2 )

    And Josephus lists the horrendous outcome:-

    “To give a detailed account of their outrageous conduct is impossible, but we may sum it up by saying that no other city has ever endured such horrors, and no generation in history has fathered such wickedness.”

    “In the end they brought the whole Hebrew race into contempt in order to make their own impiety seem less outrageous in foreign eyes, and confessed the painful truth that they were slaves, the dregs of humanity, bastards, and outcasts of their nation.”

    “….It is certain that when from the upper city they watched the Temple burning they did not turn a hair, though many Romans were moved to tears. (Ibid. 292)

    “During the long siege a terrible famine raged in the city and the bodies of the inhabitants were literally stacked like cordwood in the streets.”

    “Mothers ate their children to preserve their own strength. The toll of Jewish suffering was horrible but they would not surrender the city. Again and again they attempted to trick the Romans through guile and perfidy.”

    “When at last the walls were breached Titus tried to preserve the Temple by giving orders to his soldiers not to destroy or burn it. But the anger of the soldiers against the Jews was so intense that, maddened by the resistance they encountered, they disobeyed the order of their general and set fire to the Temple.”

    “There were great quantities of gold and silver there which had been placed in the Temple for safekeeping. This melted and ran down between the rocks and into the cracks of the stones.”

    “When the soldiers captured the Temple area, in their greed to obtain this gold and silver they took long bars and pried apart the massive stones. Thus, quite literally fulfilled, ‘not one stone was left standing upon another’.”

    “The Temple itself was totally destroyed, though the wall supporting the area upon which the Temple was built was left partially intact and a portion of it remains to this day, called the Western Wall.”

    ( Many thanks to Mr. L. Dolphin for the powerful religious spiritual insights on Jewish history and the tragedies which befall men who refuse to be guided by WISDOM and the TRUTH)…


  32. Yardbroom // August 14, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    In 1675 slaves involved in a plot in Barbados were sentenced to be burned alive, some to be beheaded and others dragged through the streets. A rebel in Antigua in 1687 was “burned to ashes”; another had his leg and his tongue cut off” as a living example to the rest”…

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    You are one hundred percent right.

    Punishments in the past are unbelievable by contemporary standards.

    Hammurabi …… an eye for an eye.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi

    The same English who beheaded those slaves also beheaded their own King years earlier.

    …. and if you go back even further, another punishment they used on Celts …. as well as their own was disembowelling.

    When I was at school I remeber a passage of scripture which ended with these words …. “Think on these things”.

    I don’t go to Church regularly and I am no Holy Roller but here is a link, a bit jazzed up from my days at school, but saying the same thing I remember.

    An eye for an eye does not work.

    If there is only one thing history has taught us it has to be this.


  33. Human emotions are vast and can be used to insight many cruel acts.

    Hatred, anger, fear… who really knows.

    The Xenephobic hartred was growing in Rowanda as there were reports made to both the UN and Belgium… nothing was done about it. Millitia were seen organising… Some thought that the French were involved in training them.

    This is a very important story for the world… Look at what Adolf Hitler did with the Germans…

    The steps for such genocide start with xenephobia… then dehumanising the target group… then all out public incitement. It happens so quickly that it is not easy for individuals to see and stop.

    Just remember… it all STARTS with xenephobia… stoke the fire enough and anything could happen!

    Thank you Marcel for your storey and I hope that we can all learn from it.


  34. Gotchya iWatcha


  35. We in barbados make a big think about the little disturbance we had in 1937 and refers to it as “the riots”. The time is coming where we would really be faced by a riot of magnitude that would go down in Barbados history. For too long we have been enjoying a good life and have taken life for granted, time we wake up.


  36. The Youtube footage on Rwanda and Congo is depressing, unbelievable, frightening, upsetting ……. and I’ve only seen a tiny bit.

    I avoided Darfur.

    Don’t know if I even want to continue trying to understand what was and is going on.

    The “developed” Nations do have alot to answer for, but the total corruption of systems and hopelessness seems almost unassailable and a barrier to change.


  37. “If all of us forgot, the same thing might happen again, in 20 or 50 or 100 years,”

    “[He maintained that his motivation was not anger but justice.] I am someone who seeks justice, not revenge, … My work is a warning to the murderers of tomorrow, that they will never rest.”

    “Should history repeat itself, my example will repeat itself too…and not once, but fifty-fold.”

    “I was over four years in different camps with people from 15 nations: Jews, Gentiles, Gypsies, communists. Through this experience, my view on the Holocaust and the whole problem of Nazism is a lot different from Elie Wiesel, who was only six months in camps and only with Jews.”

    “The National Socialist (Nazi) party had 10 million members, of whom at most 150,000 were criminals. It would be grotesque to stick the label of criminal on every former member of the party.”

    I went to see what Simon Wiesenthal had to say about how the Jews responded only to find that he did not see the Holocaust as a Jewish problem.


  38. Marcel
    You and M continue to be a great inspiration – your courage, dignity and the energy you dedicate to alleviating the suffering of others know no boundaries. A soul so strong can never be taken. I think of you often.

  39. Living in Barbados Avatar
    Living in Barbados

    @Marcel,
    We’ve discussed the losses and the madness many times enough, I think, to not have to repeat here.

    Today, though, I will add a wish for joy and happiness and hope and success and peace, for Mico on his birthday.

    Bonne anniversaire, Mico, de la parte de Tonton Dennis. Bises.


  40. Some justice in the Rwandan matter perhaps?

    Rwanda queen-killing suspect held

    Queen Rosalie Gicanda (L) was revered by many Tutsis

    One of the most wanted suspects in Rwanda’s 1994 genocide has been arrested in Uganda.

    Idelphonse Nizeyimana was an intelligence chief at the time of the genocide, in which about 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus were killed.

    He has been extradited to Tanzania for trial at a UN-backed tribunal, accused of organising the killing of thousands – including the former Tutsi queen.

    Rwanda welcomed the arrest but said he should be tried in his country.

    "There is no time limit for justice, whether it comes fast or slow it is something we want to see," said Augustine Nkusi, a spokesman for the prosecutor-general.

    RWANDA GENOCIDE

    6 April 1994President Juvenal Habyarimana dies when plane shot down

    April-July Estimated 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus killed

    July Tutsi-led rebels capture Kigali

    July Two million Hutus flee, sparking years of regional unrest

    Profile: Idelphonse Nizeyimana

    Audio slideshow: 100 days

    Rwanda’s ghosts refuse to be buried

    "Fifteen years is very little compared to what was committed in Rwanda. There are many victims who have not yet forgotten, who have not yet received justice."

    Mr Nizeyimana, an army captain, was head of intelligence and military operations at Rwanda’s elite military training school, the ESO, during the genocide.

    The lengthy indictment says he elaborated, adhered to and executed a plan to wipe out the Tutsis – the minority in a country ruled by a Hutu government for more than three decades.

    He is accused of setting up special military units to help carry out the slaughter.

    One of these units is believed to have killed Queen Rosalie Gicanda, widow of King Mutara III who died in 1959 shortly before the country became a republic.

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    Rwandan justice minister Tharcisse Karugarama: " I think that justice has arrested this guy"

    According to a 1999 report by US-based Human Rights Watch, Hutu soldiers took the queen from her home in the south-eastern town of Butare and shot her behind the national museum.

    They also murdered several women who looked after the queen, who was about 80 years old when she died.

    Another charge against Mr Nizeyimana is that he ordered the establishment of roadblocks at which Tutsis were captured before being murdered.

    And troops said to have been under his command rampaged through the University of Butare, killing lecturers and students in what was seen as an attempt to wipe out the Tutsi intelligentsia.

    Falso documents

    Like an estimated two million Rwandan Hutus, Mr Nizeyimana fled after the genocide and took refuge in neighbouring DR Congo.

    Idelphonse Nizeyimana allegedly helped draw up death lists

    Officials believe that there he was active in a pro-Hutu rebel army called Democratic Front for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR).

    The BBC’s Geoffrey Mutogoma in Kigali says it is believed he rose to the rank of colonel in the FDLR and Rwandan officials hope his arrest will disrupt its activities.

    He was arrested in a modest hotel in the Ugandan capital, Kampala.

    Ugandan police said he had crossed the border from DR Congo last week, and was heading for Kenya with false travel documents.

    The International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, based in Arusha, Tanzania, said he would appear before the judges in the coming days.

    The tribunal, which is due to finish its work by the end of next year, says it is still trying to find 11 fugitives. So far 40 people have been convicted of crimes connected with the genocide.


  41. The blood of the innocent still cries from the ground demanding JUSTICE…


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